and Nets on verge of deal for Jarrett Jack

[djohn2oo8]

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There it is. The cap space for LeBron.

[djohn2oo8]

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[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Nets are dumb helping a rival, unless they're fleecing them of multiple picks/assets.

[Mel_13]

Nets are dumb helping a rival, unless they're fleecing them of multiple picks/assets.

Past bad decisions coming home to roost. They needed to replace Livingston and they're looking to reduce their tax bill.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Billy King giving up another pick

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Past bad decisions coming home to roost. They needed to replace Livingston and they're looking to reduce their tax bill.

You're correct, of course. Poetic justice would suggest the Cavs with LeBron sweep the Nets out of the playoffs next season.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol Billy King giving up another pick
:lol

[DPG21920]

Wow, so CLE had to give up a 1st round pick, Zeller AND Karasev (19th pick in first round) to dump Jack? Holy sh*t.

If Lebron doesn't go to CLE, wow.

[Mel_13]

Meanwhile, Ainge uses his cap space to collect assets.

[djohn2oo8]

Wow, so CLE had to give up a 1st round pick, Zeller AND Karasev (19th pick in first round) to dump Jack? Holy sh*t.

If Lebron doesn't go to CLE, wow.
:lmao That would be typical Cleveland.

[DPG21920]

Great job by Boston. Who cares about taking on Thorton's short deal when it won't likely have any ramifications on future moves and they will likely suck this year anyways. Getting Zeller + another first for doing so when they have tons of room anyways is solid.

BKY having to operate with taking less money back, but they got the better player so it makes sense for them.

CLE taking a massive gamble to go for Lebron.

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

Great job by Boston. Who cares about taking on Thorton's short deal when it won't likely have any ramifications on future moves and they will likely suck this year anyways. Getting Zeller + another first for doing so when they have tons of room anyways is solid.

BKY having to operate with taking less money back, but they got the better player so it makes sense for them.

CLE taking a massive gamble to go for Lebron.
No way they do this without receiving a committment right?

[DPG21920]

I'm assuming it was CLE giving up the first rounder and not BKY. If it was BKY, then it makes the deal a little more palatable for CLE but still a lot to give up for dumping Jack (Zeller & Karasev).

[benefactor]

crofl...LeBron going to fuck them right in the pussy yet again.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm assuming it was CLE giving up the first rounder and not BKY. If it was BKY, then it makes the deal a little more palatable for CLE but still a lot to give up for dumping Jack (Zeller & Karasev).
Yeah it was CLE first rounder.

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[DPG21920]

On second thought, I bet is was BKY giving up the first.

They got to save money in the deal while getting the better player at a position of need and got what was the 19th pick of the first round this year. They gave up the first to Boston I bet.

[Mel_13]

Great job by Boston. Who cares about taking on Thorton's short deal when it won't likely have any ramifications on future moves and they will likely suck this year anyways. Getting Zeller + another first for doing so when they have tons of room anyways is solid.

BKY having to operate with taking less money back, but they got the better player so it makes sense for them.

CLE taking a massive gamble to go for Lebron.

Ainge continues to collect pieces for a Kevin Love trade. Even Thornton's sizable expiring contract could be useful in that regard.

[Clipper Nation]

No way they do this without receiving a committment right?
Shitcago traded Hinrich and the Clippers traded ZBo to make room in 2010 and both whiffed....

[djohn2oo8]

On second thought, I bet is was BKY giving up the first.

They got to save money in the deal while getting the better player at a position of need and got what was the 19th pick of the first round this year. They gave up the first to Boston I bet.
It is confirmed Cleveland is giving up the 1st.

[Killakobe81]

Meanwhile, Ainge uses his cap space to collect assets.

I cannot lie Ainge has been playing this new CBA wisely. if he can get something worthwhile out of Rondo ...
Got rid of vets for picks/cap-space.
Solid draft pick with smart. Re-signed their best perimeter defender.
Added another pick.

[DPG21920]

It is confirmed Cleveland is giving up the 1st.

Where do you see that? Everything I have seen just mentions the 3 players: Jack/Zeller/Karasev

[Dex]

I really wonder how much of this move has James' approval, though. Perhaps Cavs make this move knowing that if they whiff on Lebron, they will just go after another top FA or perhaps a couple of middle-tier FAs to put around their core.

My feeling is this is more of a gamble by the Cavs, but...Holy shit, the fallout if James doesn't go back to Cleveland now would be astronomical.

[djohn2oo8]

Where do you see that? Everything I have seen just mentions the 3 players: Jack/Zeller/Karasev
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[Baam]

Karasev and a first seems a bit much, really depends on how it's protected but I like it, ballsy move.

Besides they're stacked at the 2 with Waiters and Wiggins... And Zeller just plain sucks...

[Killakobe81]

I really wonder how much of this move has James' approval, though. Perhaps Cavs make this move knowing that if they whiff on Lebron, they will just go after another top FA or perhaps a couple of middle-tier FAs to put around their core.

My feeling is this is more of a gamble by the Cavs, but...Holy shit, the fallout if James doesn't go back to Cleveland now would be astronomical.

Team wise I dont see the harm. They gave up a 1st which has great value but Zeller and Karasev? Dont see the huge loss. I get Celts trying to improve "love package" but still think Cavs can make that happen too and Love already said he would re-sign if traded there ...

[Baam]

Team wise I dont see the harm. They gave up a 1st which has great value but Zeller and Karasev? Dont see the huge loss. I get Celts trying to improve "love package" but still think Cavs can make that happen too and Love already said he would re-sign if traded there ...

:lol would be hilarious if the Cavs traded for Love tbh, Ainge would look like a tard... Still don't get how you draft Smart AND pay Avery Bradley, that FO is so overrated imo...

[Mel_13]

I cannot lie Ainge has been playing this new CBA wisely. if he can get something worthwhile out of Rondo ...
Got rid of vets for picks/cap-space.
Solid draft pick with smart. Re-signed their best perimeter defender.
Added another pick.

He's definitely made some chicken salad. If Ray hadn't bolted to Miami, they'd probably still have Doc, KG, and Pierce. Once the group started to fall apart, he made the best of it. Celtic fans have reason to be hopeful.

[DPG21920]

Man, in seeing the confirmation that CLE gave up the first rounder, again :wow CLE. A future 1st (not sure what the details are), Zeller & Karasev to dump Jack. Just a massive gamble (not Jack so much, but Zeller/this year's 19th pick/future first).

Obviously BOS did a good job. But now knowing it wasn't BKY who gave up the pick, they did a very good job too. In order to save themselves money and get the better player (Jack vs Thornton), all they had to do was take CLE's 19th pick this year :lol

[RsxPiimp]

How is dumping Zeller, Karasev to get Lebron a bad deal for the Cavs:lol

They've always wanted to dump Jack anyway even before the Lebron rumor.

[yavozerb]

Cleveland could pretty much afford the big 3 from Miami at this point..starting 5 of Irving,Wade,James,Bosh, and Varajao is not too shabby.

[djohn2oo8]

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[yavozerb]

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Not as bad for the cavs with the protected 1st

[DPG21920]

Nice pick for BOS. Only top 10 protected. Sure, if they don't land Lebron there's a shot that they really suck, but even if they don't land Lebron, they have a lot of cap space and might actually win enough games to not get a top 10 pick. If they land Lebron, they net that pick (even though it will be a late first) next year.

[djohn2oo8]

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[Mal]

Cap is clear, young legs on board, white coach also. I wouldnt be surprised LeBron returns

[Mel_13]

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The Cleveland Heat.

[Spurs9]

Hope Bron goes back to Cavs tbh

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

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That pussy already said he was going to sign where ever Lebron did. What a ring chasing ******** (Insert any obscenity you like).

[Ron Swanson]

Watch them go after Bosh and leave Wade in Miami.

[djohn2oo8]

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Someone is getting crushed. Cleveland or Miami.

[djohn2oo8]

Watch them go after Bosh and leave Wade in Miami.
:lol

[phyzik]

How pissed do you think Wade is after opting out of that contract only to have LeBron bolt on him back to Cleveland :lol

[POPownsJackson]

Watch them go after Bosh and leave Wade in Miami.
bosh would just go to Rockets. Ray and Bron to Cavs. Wade to HGH clinic

[djohn2oo8]

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[Kool Bob Love]

Fucking cavs......

[Mel_13]

How pissed do you think Wade is after opting out of that contract only to have LeBron bolt on him back to Cleveland :lol

http://www.djpromoking.com/storage/Dwyane-Wade-Mad.gif?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1337185304430

[djohn2oo8]

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[Trill Clinton]

props to boston for getting zeller and the picks. that was a smoove move.

[Baam]

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Someone is getting crushed. Cleveland or Miami.

If the Cavs are doing this without any insurance then that makes it so much better imo, it'd be ballsy as hell, Riley won't be getting any sleep tonight :lol.

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[djohn2oo8]

If the Cavs are doing this without any insurance then that makes it so much better imo, it'd be ballsy as hell, Riley won't be getting any sleep tonight :lol.

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:lol

[RsxPiimp]

How pissed do you think Wade is after opting out of that contract only to have LeBron bolt on him back to Cleveland :lol

No one told his ass to opt out. Even if Lebron hinted it at one point, you're a grown ass man, you should have the foresight to make the best and sound financial decision in your life.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

props to boston for getting zeller and the picks. that was a smoove move.

Boston got a plethora of picks in the next 5 years. Ainge has put them in a position to be a contender within 5 years if they draft smart and make a couple of moves in FA. Shit like this doesn't happen overnight. It took 7 years of the Spurs retooling the roster and making changes to their system to finally find the winning formula again.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao

[Killakobe81]

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That is dumb. No way I give wiggins for Love. I would offer: Thompson. Bennett. Waiters (2 of the 3) and a 1st. Should be more than enough Love is leaving. PERIOD. Wolves dont have much leverage. If Boston offer is competitive to THAT you send all 3 or an extra pick with limited protections.

[phyzik]

However this turns out, at least one team is going to be crushed and I wont be able to look away. This is entertainment.

[MeloHype]

If the Cavs are doing this without any insurance then that makes it so much better imo, it'd be ballsy as hell, Riley won't be getting any sleep tonight :lol.

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[POPownsJackson]

how I want this to turn out

Bosh in Houston
Melo stays in New York getting Gasol
Bron and Ray in Cleveland
Rondo in Dallas
K Love in Boston with Rondo(if no dallas thing)

[djohn2oo8]

http://i.imgur.com/viOZ3Y7.jpg
:lmao fantastic

[Killakobe81]

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:lmao

Ariza is a good fit without Lebron ... but this has to be to get Love or Lebron or both.

[Ron Swanson]

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:lmao

Holy shit. One of these teams is getting trolled hard.

[Ron Swanson]

http://i.imgur.com/viOZ3Y7.jpg

:lol

[SupremeGuy]

This is madness! :lol

[MeloHype]

how I want this to turn out

Bosh in Houston
Melo stays in New York getting Gasol
Bron and Ray in Cleveland
Rondo in Dallas
K Love in Boston with Rondo(if no dallas thing)Rondo is most likely gonna get traded since Boston drafted 2 guards and just traded for another one.

[SupremeGuy]

However this turns out, at least one team is going to be crushed and I wont be able to look away. This is entertainment.Exactly how I feel, tbh. This has been a pretty fucking entertaining FA. I'm guessing I'm enjoying it all the more because the Spurs are champions, so watching the rest of the league do crazy shit is pretty hilarious.

[DJR210]

If LeBron passes on CLE, Boston just received a number 1 overall pick.

[Killakobe81]

Exactly how I feel, tbh. This has been a pretty fucking entertaining FA. I'm guessing I'm enjoying it all the more because the Spurs are champions, so watching the rest of the league do crazy shit is pretty hilarious.

I said the same to a friend when we were champs this was much more amusing.

[Raven]

wow just wow

[Killakobe81]

If LeBron passes on CLE, Boston just received a number 1 overall pick.

LOL if wasnt protected you could be right.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[SupremeGuy]

If LeBron passes on CLE, Boston just received a number 1 overall pick.It's protected, no?

[SupremeGuy]

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:lolNo FUCKING way. :lol

[Mel_13]

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:lol

Cleveland Heat, for sure.

[Clipper Nation]

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:lmao
Fuuuuuck, now I have to hope that LeBron goes back to that shithole for the Clippers to still have any chance at Ariza :bang

[Mel_13]

Exactly how I feel, tbh. This has been a pretty fucking entertaining FA. I'm guessing I'm enjoying it all the more because the Spurs are champions, so watching the rest of the league do crazy shit is pretty hilarious.

So entertaining, and you don't even have to buy a ticket.

[TheGoldStandard]

Lol Miami north

[RsxPiimp]

LOL if wasnt protected you could be right.

It's Top 10 protected until 2019.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lmao fucking madness

[Baam]

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:lmao fucking madness

The Cavs are going all-in :lmao, love it. Meanwhile Riley has signed McBob :lol.

[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Cavs
:lol Damn near making Fredo look competent

[Kool Bob Love]

:rollin

[ajh18]

Cavs have unleashed the blitz. Trying to trade for Love, sign Miller, sign Allen??? Give Lebron a perfect landing spot. Damn, this is nuts.

[RsxPiimp]

Wiggins for Love would be dumb. And how are they signing him without gutting the team.

[100%duncan]

Cavs going for dat ass

[SupremeGuy]

Cavs are going all fucking in, tbh. If Lebron fucks them again, he can't expect to be embraced by Ohio ever again.

[Killakobe81]

Fuuuuuck, now I have to hope that LeBron goes back to that shithole for the Clippers to still have any chance at Ariza :bang

Yall had no shot at Rza ...

Hayward just blew that shot out the water and once Parsons and Deng gets paid Trevor's agent who is a first class a-hole he will want at least 12 million which you do NOT have ...
BTW after last couple of days is Lance crazy for wanting more money? I thought Pacers deal was fair but now with the other dummy GM's jacking up prices Bird HAS low-balled him.

SMH, NBA GM's.

[manufan10]

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[djohn2oo8]

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Of course. No one will leak this decision before the meeting. Woj has been off lately.

[Clipper Nation]

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djohn2oo8 needs to :downspin: dis shit, because as usual, I'm right :lol

Kang's agent is doing this shit behind his back and setting LeBron up to be hated if he stays in Miami.... LeBron needs to fire this clown immediately, tbh.....

[Ron Swanson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmzuRXLzqKk

[100%duncan]

Yall had no shot at Rza ...

Hayward just blew that shot out the water and once Parsons and Deng gets paid Trevor's agent who is a first class a-hole he will want at least 12 million which you do NOT have ...
BTW after last couple of days is Lance crazy for wanting more money? I thought Pacers deal was fair but now with the other dummy GM's jacking up prices Bird HAS low-balled him.

SMH, NBA GM's.

Bird can't do anything tbh, the price he gave Lance was right. Can't blame him that some idiot gm thinks Hayward deserves the max.

[djohn2oo8]

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djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) needs to :downspin: dis shit, because as usual, I'm right :lol

Kang's agent is doing this shit behind his back and setting LeBron up to be hated if he stays in Miami.... LeBron needs to fire this clown immediately, tbh.....

What a shitty take tbh. Why does he have an agent in the first place? He knew this was happening and did nothing to stop it. Spin that.

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol

[100%duncan]

If cavs sign them Lebron minions but the leader doesn't end up on their side after all....

[RsxPiimp]

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Let's not be naive. James has given his agent power to negotiate for him. People can't deflect any of this blame if the deal doesn't go down.

[djohn2oo8]

Let's not be naive. James has given his agent power to negotiate for him. People can't deflect any of this blame if the deal doesn't go down.
This.

[baseline bum]

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Nailing Cleveland's ass to the Tree of Woj

[Clipper Nation]

What a shitty take tbh. Why does he have an agent in the first place?
Theoretically to represent his interests, but he clearly hired a snake who doesn't have his best interests at heart, tbh....

[djohn2oo8]

There will be a mass amount of broken F5 buttons in Cleveland today.

[100%duncan]

Theoretically to represent his interests, but he clearly hired a snake who doesn't have his best interests at heart, tbh....

Dude, hope you're joking :lol Seriously get Bron's cock out of your mouth

[manufan10]

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:lol

:wow going after every ex-Heat player? When do we see them reach out to big Z?

[IrisHockey]

Cavs go all in while they're in the lead.. they're in prime position for a bad beat on the river and a meltdown forthcoming

[TheGoldStandard]

The drama is building, can't wait to see Cleveland burn again or Miami bandwagon fans demanding there money back on tickets.

[Killakobe81]

Bird can't do anything tbh, the price he gave Lance was right. Can't blame him that some idiot gm thinks Hayward deserves the max.

I agree Bird was in the right. But he can blame his colleagues for throwing pricing out of wack ...TBH Lakers would be wise to do nothing allow contracts to evaporate pay off their picks owed ... and bank that cap space for future big fish since we gave away picks like candy.

[D-Wade]

Wade possibly getting burned aside, this shit is crazy

[Clipper Nation]

Dude, hope you're joking :lol Seriously get Bron's cock out of your mouth
Not LeBron's faultPERIOD

[Killakobe81]

The drama is building, can't wait to see Cleveland burn again or Miami bandwagon fans demanding there money back on tickets.

Dont get why anyone would want to see Cavs get burned Cleveland has watched Josh Gordon's demons take over, Jfootball partying like a frat boy ...would be sad to see their hopes crushed. I love Ariza but he is not a worthy consolation to the Kang.

[The Gemini Method]

What would be worse Cleveland's embarrassment if LeBron doesn't return home and they made all these moves? Or, Brazil's blitzkrieg yesterday? Hell, both will keep this place in a uptick for weeks!

[Killakobe81]

Not LeBron's faultPERIOD

If so ... he is still BETA off the court. I blame Ariza's agent (some) why he left after 2009 ...but ultimately Trevor employs his agent not the other way around.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Let's not be naive. James has given his agent power to negotiate for him. People can't deflect any of this blame if the deal doesn't go down.
+ 1. There's too much at stake here, these are not autograph sessions or commercial spots where agents themselves can decide for their respective clients. I find it hard to believe Lebron has no clue or input in a decision this big.

[midnightpulp]

Best off-season of all-time.

If Cleveland's gamble doesn't pay off :lol

[Raven]

no matter what will happen, there will be a lot to lol about.

[manufan10]

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:lol

[Texas_Ranger]

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

no matter what will happen, there will be a lot to lol about.

Exactly. Everyone fighting over Melo, let me repeat MELO. James trolling either the Heat or Cavs. If he picks Cavs, the Heat fans will be looking like those Brazilian fans from yesterday. Hayward getting 15mil. Rockets dissing Lin and Parson and striking out on Melo. Bosh for the Max (REALLY).

Shit, I could go on and on but this FA has been fun seeing teams literally begging at every corner while the Spurs are sipping their tea by the warm fireplace. Best offseason since the Spurs traded for Kawhi.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dont get why anyone would want to see Cavs get burned Cleveland has watched Josh Gordon's demons take over, Jfootball partying like a frat boy ...would be sad to see their hopes crushed. I love Ariza but he is not a worthy consolation to the Kang.

Cavs tried to move on and when they realized that they were a suck organization they basically opted to prep for his return. They didn't try to create any kind of identity firing coach after coach.

[smaka]

Lol, this shit is hilarious. Keep it coming, LeBeta.

[Dex]

Perhaps Cavs make this move knowing that if they whiff on Lebron, they will just go after another top FA or perhaps a couple of middle-tier FAs to put around their core.


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[manufan10]

:wow

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[manufan10]

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[Killakobe81]

Best off-season of all-time.

If Cleveland's gamble doesn't pay off :lol

It will be funny (in a twisted way) but even if he stays they have cleared cap space have Wiggins I dont see a bleak future either way. I doubt they get Love with no Lebron though. But if they draft well they will still be really good ...

[100%duncan]

It will be funny (in a twisted way) but even if he stays they have cleared cap space have Wiggins I dont see a bleak future either way. I doubt they get Love with no Lebron though. But if they draft well they will still be really good ...
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This. I dont get people saying Cle's fkd if they dont land Bron. They could just build around Kyrie, Waiters, Wiggins and contend in 3 years.

[Dex]

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:lmao But...but...but we got you Josh McRoberts!

[baseline bum]

:wow

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Shit man, that sounds pretty fucking bad for Miami.

[Aztecfan03]

If LeBron passes on CLE, Boston just received a number 1 overall pick.

nope.

[Spurs9]

Never been a doubt in my mind Lebron would bolt from Miami tbh

[Ron Swanson]

Old and busted Wade, McBob, and Granger are the new Big 3?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Shit man, that sounds pretty fucking bad for Miami.

It does. And to think the Heat wasted their MLE and BAE on McRoberts and Granger.

Cavs use MLE Miller, BAE Jones, and Vet Min Allen. Bring in James. Trade for Love.

No Lebron for the Lakers, No Melo for the Lakers, No Love for the Lakers. The only thing to make this sweeter would be if Gasol left LA to join the Spurs for the MLE.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Z just posted this in his facebook

https://www.facebook.com/zydrunas

[Donkeybong]

Anyone have espn insider? I want to see the reasoning of why Lebron should stay with the heat.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Z just posted this in his facebook

https://www.facebook.com/zydrunas

Z is a special consultant for the Cavs. He was in the meeting last week with Lebron's agent. And he is also a very close friend to Lebron from what I heard.

Maybe he does know something we don't.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Anyone have espn insider? I want to see the reasoning of why Lebron should stay with the heat.

I just figure those ESPN analyst want to just party in Miami during the season instead of going to the cold wind's off of Lake Erie. That's the main reason IMO.

[RD2191]

Is that even a legit profile? Looks like a fan profile tbh.

[Dex]

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:lol Even Whataburger gettin' in on the action.

This is Lebron James we are talking about, not Dejuan Blair.

[baseline bum]

It does. And to think the Heat wasted their MLE and BAE on McRoberts and Granger.

Cavs use MLE Miller, BAE Jones, and Vet Min Allen. Bring in James. Trade for Love.

No Lebron for the Lakers, No Melo for the Lakers, No Love for the Lakers. The only thing to make this sweeter would be if Gasol left LA to join the Spurs for the MLE.

They will have to renounce their MLE and LLE exceptions to sign James.

[Donkeybong]

It does. And to think the Heat wasted their MLE and BAE on McRoberts and Granger.

Cavs use MLE Miller, BAE Jones, and Vet Min Allen. Bring in James. Trade for Love.

No Lebron for the Lakers, No Melo for the Lakers, No Love for the Lakers. The only thing to make this sweeter would be if Gasol left LA to join the Spurs for the MLE.

wow. you must really hate the lakers

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

wow. you must really hate the lakers

Yes and No. Its just more trash talking than anything to all those people that constantly spouting out that every superstar FA wants to come to the Lakers. Still funny nonetheless.

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20130628-dwight.jpg.ece/BINARY/w620x413/dwight.jpg

[Donkeybong]

Yes and No. Its just more trash talking than anything to all those people that constantly spouting out that every superstar FA wants to come to the Lakers. Still funny nonetheless.

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20130628-dwight.jpg.ece/BINARY/w620x413/dwight.jpg

You can blame that on the agents trying to use the Lakers as leverage on almost every marquee free agent.

[Thread]

You can blame that on the agents trying to use the Lakers as leverage on almost every marquee free agent.

Donk, that's on Jim Buss and the management team. Let 'em take it.

[DPG21920]

Amazing the risks CLE has taken on gambles like Deng & Bron. I think it's worth it but damn it's not the norm.

[The Reckoning]

lol bron too scared to play in the west

[baseline bum]

Amazing the risks CLE has taken on gambles like Deng & Bron. I think it's worth it but damn it's not the norm.

Yeah, you gotta take that kind of risk for a LeBron James, especially a LeBron James pissed at his owner.

[Red Hawk #21]

lol bron too scared to play in the west

I wish he would tbh. He'd be challenged every single night. The West is so good that even teams that don't make the playoffs (Nuggets, Suns, Timberwolves etc) are still pretty good. As a result of the tougher competition I'm sure we'd see Lebron elevate his game even further. But I don't think the same guy who went to go collude with other all-stars in order to win rings would even consider going to the ultra competitive Western conference. He's content to bully teams like the Pacers, Bobcats and the Wizards instead.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Risk of losing Zeller and a Karasev? Seriously?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Risk of losing Zeller and a Karasev? Seriously?

And Jack, who had his worse season in like 6 years last year. A top 10 protected pick for the next 5 years. That isn't risking it. Trading away Kyle or Wiggins w/o signing Lebron is risking it.

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He's content to bully teams like the Pacers, Bobcats and the Wizards instead.

Nothing wrong with that. The path of least resistance yields the rings. I was never so happy as to find the Sixers & Nets, and that fool Howard in '09.

[Red Hawk #21]

Nothing wrong with that. The path of least resistance yields the rings. I was never so happy as to find the Sixers & Nets, and that fool Howard in '09.

True. Personally, I just wish to see him play against the big boys of the league rather than the scrubs he's always playing against. It is what it is though.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Wow, so CLE had to give up a 1st round pick, Zeller AND Karasev (19th pick in first round) to dump Jack? Holy sh*t.

If Lebron doesn't go to CLE, wow.

CLE is friggin nuts.

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True. Personally, I just wish to see him play against the big boys of the league rather than the scrubs he's always playing against. It is what it is though.

Honestly, I don't even think that weighs on the choice for him. That's a fan thing perpetrated by ESPN.

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CLE is friggin nuts.

1st round picks are a genuine crap shoot. Let somebody else take the risk and the training. You swoop in afterward and pick the litter over.

[StrengthAndHonor]

And Jack, who had his worse season in like 6 years last year. A top 10 protected pick for the next 5 years. That isn't risking it. Trading away Kyle or Wiggins w/o signing Lebron is risking it.
Yeah, plus the Cavs has made Jack available this off season and they enticed Brooklyn by dangling a future first rounder, so this deal has always been in place to begin with.

Pawns like Zeller and Karasev are worth giving up for if it gets you a king.

[Splits]

Cleveland going to set their river on fire again if they end up with Ariza :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I agree, it's just moving a lot of assets for a deal that likely won't happen.

[midnightpulp]

Take this FWIW:

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[MarioSpeedwagon]

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10462876_897550606926161_3069763813858588734_n.jpg
Rofl

[BatManu20]

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[midnightpulp]

486936802977001473

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[BatManu20]

Obviously it's going to suck for CLE if they don't land Lebron with all these moves, but what do they have to lose, tbh.. they pretty much have to be making these desperation moves. They'll never win anything without Lebron, tbh. No matter how many good players they acquire.

[Killakobe81]

Called the Love scenario ...

[spurraider21]

True. Personally, I just wish to see him play against the big boys of the league rather than the scrubs he's always playing against. It is what it is though.
the east is boring enough tbh

[Robz4000]

:lmao Leaveland. Potentially destroying their franchise for another decade plus on the small chance Lebron will come back.

[baseline bum]

CLE is friggin nuts.

It's a mid first round pick, a so-so prospect in Zeller, and a piece of shit in Karasev. And James is out recruiting Mike Miller after Arison amnestied him. I think Cleveland's getting it done this time.

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It's a mid first round pick, a so-so prospect in Zeller, and a piece of shit in Karasev. And James is out recruiting Mike Miller after Arison amnestied him. I think Cleveland's getting it done this time.

You want to bet your moniker, Bum?

[Red Hawk #21]

the east is boring enough tbh

Yeah, you're right. Come to think of it...who is the biggest star in the East aside from Lebron? Paul George? I actually can't even think of anyone.

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, you're right. Come to think of it...who is the biggest star in the East aside from Lebron? Paul George? I actually can't even think of anyone.

Drose's knees?
John Wall?
Wiggins?

[baseline bum]

You want to bet your moniker, Bum?

What the fuck would I bet my screen name for yours for? :rollin

So I can come post

Duncan 5
Tired old shitbag Bryant 5

60 times a day? Get out of here and go fuck your mother some more.

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What the fuck would I bet my screen name for yours for? :rollin

So I can come post

Duncan 5
Tired old shitbag Bryant 5

60 times a day? Get out of here and go fuck your mother some more.

Yes, or no?

[baseline bum]

Yes, or no?

The answer is no. I have no use for your screen name.

[manufan10]

^ :lol

[Red Hawk #21]

Drose's knees?
John Wall?
Wiggins?

Just more proof that this guy has NO competition in the East...

[TampaDude]

What the fuck would I bet my screen name for yours for? :rollin

So I can come post

Duncan 5
Tired old shitbag Bryant 5

60 times a day? Get out of here and go fuck your mother some more.

:lmao

[DJR210]

It's protected, no?


LOL if wasnt protected you could be right.

Posted that from my phone, was too lazy to research the details of the trade

[DJR210]

Get out of here and go fuck your mother some more.

Works every time.

[manufan10]

486953103376121856 :lol

[baseline bum]

486953103376121856 :lol

Apparently that comes from an ESPN radio guy in Miami.

https://twitter.com/SedanoESPN

[Killakobe81]

486953103376121856 :lol

Lies. Pretty sure he wouldnt move like that.

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:lmao

Oh, yeah, just fuckin' hilarious. You asshole, you.

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Lies. Pretty sure he wouldnt move like that.

How so, Killa?

[Clipper Nation]

Those are car transport trucks, he reportedly moves his cars over to his house in Akron every summer....

:lol Cavs fans getting their hopes up

[Killakobe81]

Apparently that comes from an ESPN radio guy in Miami.

https://twitter.com/SedanoESPN

Sedano has a show (Sedano & stink) that plays in DFW it's him and Schlereth(?) but my guess he is trollin'

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Those are car transport trucks, he reportedly moves his cars over to his house in Akron every summer....

:lol Cavs fans getting their hopes up

Bend over. I'll get your fuckin' hopes up.

[Killakobe81]

How so, Killa?

arrange movers before he announces his plans ..now way he is THAT cold.

[baseline bum]

Sedano has a show (Sedano & stink) that plays in DFW it's him and Schlereth(?) but my guess he is trollin'

Shit would be hilarious if he's leaving and that's how the world finds out. :lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Shit would be hilarious if he's leaving and that's how the world finds out. :lol

It would be. I can see Lebron moving 4 or 5 cars, but ALL HIS CARS (20 or so). What, does he like to just sit and stare at them. He is going to the Worlds this summer and will be gone most of the Summer.

Makes no sense for to move him all his cars when when he is leaving next week for USA camp and will only have 2-3 weeks before having to report back to camp back in Miami (assuming he returns).

[DPG21920]

Risk of losing Zeller and a Karasev? Seriously?


And Jack, who had his worse season in like 6 years last year. A top 10 protected pick for the next 5 years. That isn't risking it. Trading away Kyle or Wiggins w/o signing Lebron is risking it.

It's not just that. Dismiss Zeller & Karasev all you want (which is fine by me) even though they were both first round picks recently. But when you factor in the future first rounder as well (even though it may be a 20+ pick if they land good players like Lebron with the moves) it's a big deal.

It's especially a big deal because in a bubble, that is a lot to dump a player like Jack who doesn't have some absurd contract. They had to give up way more than you normally would in order to dump a guy like Jack with (as of now) no assurance that Lebron will come.

Then you factor in the Luol Deng deal and what they gave up (with no assurance Deng would stay):

In exchange for Deng, the Cavs send Cleveland's right to the Sacramento King's first round draft pick conveyed in a June 30, 2011 deal, the right for Chicago to swap its own 2015 first round draft pick with the Cavs own 2015 first round draft pick (only in the case that the Cleveland 2015 first round draft pick is between 15 and 30) and the Portland Trail Blazer's 2015 and 2016 second round draft picks acquired from the Trail Blazers via a 2013 draft night trade.

That is a ton of assets to give up for a franchise that needs assets.

Again, I think it was worth it for several reasons:

1) They still had plenty of upcoming draft picks at the time (including #1's)
2) They had plenty of recent draft picks and young/cheap talent from previous years
3) You can only have so many young/cheap contracts before they become an issue and you have to trade them or lose them
4) It's hard to get FA talent in CLE

It's a worthwhile gamble IMO, but they are taking big risks with their assets that are good and will be set back if they have nothing to show for it outside of cap flexibility (which may help them recover some).

[spurraider21]

Those are car transport trucks, he reportedly moves his cars over to his house in Akron every summer....

:lol Cavs fans getting their hopes up
where is this report? Sedano, who originally tweeted the pic, said "its possible he moves them every summer"

[phxspurfan]

I hope LeBron goes back to Cleveland. It's his home, and where he belongs. It's obvious Miami never really deserved him.


That being said, Spurs will stomp the Cavs next year even if they get LeBron :lol