[WC 14] THE FINALE: "MESSI vs the GERMAN MACHINE"

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao :lmao :lmao My dream final came true

[Infinite_limit]

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[DD]

Germany gonna tool on them like they always do

[Darth_Pelican]

Nazi Nation wins this one.

[urunobili]

Argentina vs. Germany Final 3.0

[DAF86]

Nazi Nation wins this one.

Which one?

[DD]

Probably gonna be 2-0 Germany. Maybe 2-1. Any argies wanna bet on this one?

[ElNono]

1990 all over again, IMO...

[Venti Quattro]

:cry the thread I started
:cry but I was first

[Kyle Orton]

Germany gonna run train

[urunobili]

1990 all over again, IMO...

Only if it's reverse. If Germany wins it'll be a blowout. If Argentina wins will be a 1-0 bore or penalties.

[ElNono]

Argentina def parking the bus and hoping to strike gold... prolly not enough...

We'll see if Dive Maria can even play...

[DAF86]

Probably gonna be 2-0 Germany. Maybe 2-1. Any argies wanna bet on this one?

lol no.

It's the Spurs vs Heat all over again. Best team by far without any superstar against the best player in the World with overrated teammates.

[ElNono]

:cry pls Germany, don't forget we took your guys in when they were persecuted...

[TampaDude]

Krauts 2

Gauchos 1

[Venti Quattro]

6-2 at least tbh

[Sportstudi]

Argentina def parking the bus and hoping to strike gold... prolly not enough...

We'll see if Dive Maria can even play...

just wanted to ask you. any news on di maria?

[ElNono]

just wanted to ask you. any news on di maria?

after the Belgium game they said they were going to try to get him ready for the finals... but not sure. We'll know in a few days

[TampaDude]

:lmao :lmao :lmao My dream final came true

Same here... :toast

Krauts 2

Gauchos 1

Deutschland gewinnt seine vierte Weltmeisterschaft.

[DD]

If the Germans win by 3-4 goals again, where do they rank among the all-time great teams? I mean, they would've tooled on So. America's 2 best teams, beat Portugal and France, and cut through Ronaldo and Messi in the process. Only blemish is a tie to Ghana, but not too shabby for a month's work

[Sportstudi]

I wonder who the ref is going to be...

[FkLA]

Dont think the Nazis are some unstoppable force. They raped Brasil but theyve looked average at times throughout the tournament.

[Jodelo]

Will be a close game. The semifinal against Brazil means nothing!

[Sportstudi]

Dont think the Nazis are some unstoppable force. They raped Brasil but theyve looked average at times throughout the tournament.

True, but it's important to peak at the right time. The Netherlands peaked too early. Great in the group stage, looking pretty average in the elimination rounds...

[DAF86]

I will post in your thread too Venti. :cry

[TampaDude]

Will be a close game. The semifinal against Brazil means nothing!

^ this, tbh

[Sportstudi]

Will be a close game. The semifinal against Brazil means nothing!

This tbh.

[ElNono]

still shocked with ARG's defense... keep thinking it's a fluke, but it's been 3 games in a row...

[midnightpulp]

If the Germans win by 3-4 goals again, where do they rank among the all-time great teams? I mean, they would've tooled on So. America's 2 best teams, beat Portugal and France, and cut through Ronaldo and Messi in the process. Only blemish is a tie to Ghana, but not too shabby for a month's work

Getting into soccer, DD?

[dfens]

I wonder who the ref is going to be...

austrian/swiss/paraguayan please.

[ElNono]

Howard Webb, tbh?

[The Gemini Method]

Nazis going down like it is Stalingrad all over again! Argentina wins on a penalty kick by Messi and all the kraut wannabees on here will be sent to the corner. Just kidding maybe 2-1 either way. The Brazil massacre doesn't hide the fact that Algeria, Ghana, and the U.S. all hung tough with 'em. Except Sportstudi he seems like a cool guy.

[DD]

Getting into soccer, DD?

Nope, just the WC, like in 2010 on here. Once Germany hoists the trophy I'll celebrate for a week then go back to ripping this sport to shreds.

[dfens]

If the Germans win by 3-4 goals again, where do they rank among the all-time great teams? I mean, they would've tooled on So. America's 2 best teams, beat Portugal and France, and cut through Ronaldo and Messi in the process. Only blemish is a tie to Ghana, but not too shabby for a month's work

not among the great teams. A good team with a good system beating teams they were supposed to beat at a pretty weak cup, thus a good team in weak year. . The media will push them as a great team but any recent winner would beat this germany side on a regular basis. 2002 brazil, 98 france, 2010 spain, 2006 italy(close) are all superior teams tbh. Coming from a german btw...

[Sportstudi]

Howard Webb, tbh?

Wouldn't surprise me. He has been solid so far during this tournament and maybe the Fifa is going to give him another chance to do a better job in the finals than 4 years ago where he missed that brutal kick by de Jong and some other fouls from both sides.

[midnightpulp]

Nope, just the WC, like in 2010 on here. Once Germany hoists the trophy I'll celebrate for a week then go back to ripping this sport to shreds.

That's the American way to do it, :tu

[ManuLoco]

I hope Sabella doesn't force Di Maria. Enzo today was a beast. No more Palacios pleaseee!!!!

[FkLA]

If the Germans win by 3-4 goals again, where do they rank among the all-time great teams? I mean, they would've tooled on So. America's 2 best teams, beat Portugal and France, and cut through Ronaldo and Messi in the process. Only blemish is a tie to Ghana, but not too shabby for a month's work

If they win, it wont be by more than 1 goal IMO. Give me the Argies +1.5 and I'll bet you tbh.

[DAF86]

not among the great teams. A good team with a good system beating teams they were supposed to beat at a pretty weak cup, thus a good team in weak year. . The media will push them as a great team but any recent winner would beat this germany side on a regular basis. 2002 brazil, 98 france, 2010 spain, 2006 italy(close) are all superior teams tbh. Coming from a german btw...

Meh, not so sure about that. You have yo remember this team is formed largely with the base of an all-time great Bayern Munich team.

[Sportstudi]

Nazis going down like it is Stalingrad all over again! Argentina wins on a penalty kick by Messi and all the kraut wannabees on here will be sent to the corner. Just kidding maybe 2-1 either way. The Brazil massacre doesn't hide the fact that Algeria, Ghana, and the U.S. all hung tough with 'em. Except Sportstudi he seems like a cool guy.

Ty bro. Well, the reason for that humilation against Brazil is not that Germany played that great (they did well, but not exceptional), Brazil panicked and completely lost their faith. This will be a new game, a very difficult one. Argentina's defense has been rock solid so far, conceding just 3 goals in the entire tournament. IIRC their total goal score is 8-3. Germany's is 17-4.

[Infinite_limit]

Venti trying to steal the Final thread! ! !

[The Gemini Method]

Ty bro. Well, the reason for that humilation against Brazil is not that Germany played that great (they did well, but not exceptional), Brazil panicked and completely lost their faith. This will be a new game, a very difficult one. Argentina's defense has been rock solid so far, conceding just 3 goals in the entire tournament. IIRC their total goal score is 8-3. Germany's is 17-4.

Yeah, I think it'll be an exciting game and not the shellshocking that the Ger/Brazil game. I am just hoping for a great game. I have watched most of/all the games this world cup. I was bored with the South African one (esp. with the vuvuzelas) that I only saw a few games of that WC. You have quite a storyline for both teams as it may be the coronation of a great generation of German players or you have the coronation of Messi. Either way, all we can ask is for a thrilling game.

[DD]

If they win, it wont be by more than 1 goal IMO. Give me the Argies +1.5 and I'll bet you tbh.

Nope, too fat a line for my tastes for a WC Final. Make it Argies +1 and you have a deal.

[ElNono]

sup Venti-4

[The Gemini Method]

muh nigga Venti trying to get noticed. Love, bruh.

[Venti Quattro]

Howard Webb, tbh?

He's also my choice for the Final game referee.

[DAF86]

Two things:

1) Germany aside from their level advantage have an even bigger one with the extra day of rest and Argentina playing extra-time.
2) Who wears their 2nd unit?

[FkLA]

Nope, too fat a line for my tastes for a WC Final. Make it Argies +1 and you have a deal.

Ok, I'll put $100 on that.

[Venti Quattro]

DAF86 ElNono is ADM fit for the final?

[DAF86]

DAF86 ElNono is ADM fit for the final?

Before the Holland game they said Di Maria had a chance to make it but I doubt it.

[Venti Quattro]

Before the Holland game they said Di Maria had a chance to make it but I doubt it.

If Arg win the final is it safe to say that Manu > Dirk?

[DAF86]

If Arg win the final is it safe to say that Manu > Dirk?

Indubitable.

[FkLA]

:lol

[Relevancy]

Argentina needs to do what they did today, work hard on the defensive end and close space, BUT I'm afraid it wont enough since Germany has way better attackers, so Germany will get more chances to score

Argentina needs to pray those chances don't go in. That's all, they have a very low chance of winning

[ElNono]

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[NASpurs]

Hope di (M)arrhea plays so both teams can go at it more or less at full strength.

[DD]

Ok, I'll put $100 on that.

Deal

[Jodelo]

Wouldn't surprise me. He has been solid so far during this tournament and maybe the Fifa is going to give him another chance to do a better job in the finals than 4 years ago where he missed that brutal kick by de Jong and some other fouls from both sides.

Favourite i heard is Irmatov...

Other names around is Rizzoli!

[DD]

Ok, I'll put $100 on that.

Deal, I have Germany

[ElNono]

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[ElNono]

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"I'm only asking the winner is..."
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[FkLA]

Deal, I have Germany

:tu

[ElNono]

Interesting that nobody has scored against Argentina since the knockout stage started. Surprised, really. Hope they can hold that for one more game.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

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[DAF86]

Argentina should try some luck from behind halfcourt to make Neuer think twice about playing as a "sweeper".

[ElNono]

Argentina should try some luck from behind halfcourt to make Neuer think twice about playing as a "sweeper".

I was thinking about that... hit it right away after a deep ball... do it once or twice, he'll sit his ass back

[ElNono]

America vs Europe head to head in World Cup Final:

America 7 - Europe 2

Game #10 coming up next...

[pookenstein]

Two things:
2) Who wears their 2nd unit?

Fifa.com has Germany as the home team.

[pookenstein]

Germany 3-1.
That has nothing to do with the Brazilgame, though. They're just the better team in my opinion. This squad has grown a lot over the years and personally I think, it has a lot to do with what the Bayern players went through. They suffered 2012 and learned to focus on that one goal, resulting in the win in London. I see the same spirit in this nationoal team.

It's their time and they know it.

[mudyez]

Germany 3-1.
That has nothing to do with the Brazilgame, though. They're just the better team in my opinion. This squad has grown a lot over the years and personally I think, it has a lot to do with what the Bayern players went through. They suffered 2012 and learned to focus on that one goal, resulting in the win in London. I see the same spirit in this nationoal team.

It's their time and they know it.

:tu

[Venti Quattro]

Messi will put on a show imo and push Argentina past Germany. He's due for a breakout game in the Final.

[Muser]

He's also my choice for the Final game referee.

:cry we might make it to the final :cry

[Venti Quattro]

:cry we might make it to the final :cry

:lmao England :lmao

[Sportstudi]

Two things:

1) Germany aside from their level advantage have an even bigger one with the extra day of rest and Argentina playing extra-time.
2) Who wears their 2nd unit?


1) Germany aside from their level advantage have an even bigger one with the extra day of rest and Argentina playing extra-time + Germany didn't need to play at full strength anymore in the second half as the game was already decided after 30 minutes.

[Venti Quattro]

The game is on Sunday. Pretty sure Argentina and Germany are both gonna get adequate rest so I don't get why these pundits are saying that Argentina is gonna come into the game fatigued. The Germans just have an extra day to fuck Brazilian bitches, that's all.

[SAtown]

This should be a great match to watch. It'll be wide open because I don't think Germany will allow for a slow tempo game, and I think that'll give Messi plenty of opportunities to shine on the biggest stage.

In any case, congrats ST Argies and Germans, must feel good to see your country in a wc final, especially at Maracana.

:lol Robben
:lol Brazil

[pookenstein]

In any case, congrats ST Argies and Germans, must feel good to see your country in a wc final, especially at Maracana.

:toast

Now get it on, Argie. :ihit

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

1) Germany aside from their level advantage have an even bigger one with the extra day of rest and Argentina playing extra-time + Germany didn't need to play at full strength anymore in the second half as the game was already decided after 30 minutes.

Yes, that is what happens when you play scrubs from the weakest team in the Americas tbh. Anyone from USA to Honduras would've been a harder opponent than the Sideshow Bobs.

[ManuLoco]

Just like against Netherlands and Belgium, if Argentina stays organized on defence we got this. We just need to reach the 30 minute mark 0-0 and the game is ours.
Who would've thought that argentina, with the best forwards in the world and mediocre defenders (on a good day), would end up being such a defensive team?

[urunobili]

1) Germany aside from their level advantage have an even bigger one with the extra day of rest and Argentina playing extra-time + Germany didn't need to play at full strength anymore in the second half as the game was already decided after 30 minutes.
Argentina had their first test last game vs. the Netherlands. Until then, it was all an easy path to Semi's tbh. With Germany having survived one of the death groups, I think it evens out.

[Muser]

Are Argentina one of the most unconvincing finalists ever? None of their performances so far have been great, and at points they've been extremely lucky.

I'm pulling for them because I want to see Messi win, only for the :cry Messi needs to win a WC to be placed with Pele :cry brigade to shut up.

[Sportstudi]

Amazing flop by Voller. And klinsmann had his own nice flop in that Monzon red card. The funny part is that they didn't even need to flop given the fact that the match was rigged and Codesal was handing the cup to Germany.

In the beginning let me say that I moved my answer from the ARG-NED thread into this one as it's about the final.

Well, I already knew that these issues would be brought up again after yesterday's win against the Netherlands. I will now write my opinion about the mentioned incidents, but nothing more. I don't think that there will be any fruitful discusssion about it, the points of view from German and Argentinean fans about it are just too different. I understand and accept that, but I have heavy doubts that a discussion about it on this board will change anything. IIRC we had such a discussion already back in 2010 and the viewpoints didn't change at all. Again, this will be my only post regarding these issues.

Firstly, I will describe my thoughts about the incident with Klinsmann and Monzon.

Here is the video of the -> INCIDENT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME).

First of all, I will definitely give you that Klinsmann has his fair share for sure of letting this incident in such a bad memory. Were Klinsmann's subsequent theatrics after the tackle obviously exaggerated? Yes, they were. No question. We all know that Klinsmann was a theatrical princess, however that challenge was just nasty. Monzon had no chance at all to reach the ball. Klinsmann had already kicked the ball to the side before the defender even goes to ground, and then the defender kicks his leg out and up clearly aimed for Klinsmann's shin; the ball was long gone and Monzon knew it. Dirty tackle with a malicious intent. He was nowhere near the ball.

Monzon then hit Klinsmann's leg. You may see clearly on 0:46 - 0:48. Honestly, I have even problems to call that a "tackle". That wasn't an attempt for the ball, it was an attempt to send him into the hospital for several months if the leg had been broken. To cut it short, it was a high, outstretched leg and cleats up challenge that made contact with Klinsmann's right leg. Klinsmann did flop around dramatically, yes, but that is a foul and a red card to anyone who knows jack about soccer, despite all the theatrics by the German player. Exaggerated fall and red card worthy foul. Both sides of the coin are true. You simply cannot challenge like that.

Even if you think there was still no contact, it was then the successfully attempt of Klinsmann to avoid a broken leg. A tackle with an outstretched leg and cleats up is a straight red (feel free to read up the FIFA instructions). So, the card was justified. If Klinsmann had gotten a yellow for exaggerating the contact, fine with me, but that doesn't change the correct card for Monzon.

On that second red against Dezotti: It was also the correct call. Yes, it was an unsportsmanlike play by Jürgen Kohler (attempt to waste time), but Dezotti threw him down by the neck. If you clothesline someone, you've got to go. That was nothing but a violent conduct. Kohler should have seen yellow here, though. Dezotti already had a yellow card earlier in the game. So, even if you give Dezotti a yellow for it, he would have been sent off as it was his second. Back in 1990 there wasn't a yellow-red card. A second yellow resulted in a straight red back then.

So, the 2 red cards were correct calls and honestly, I am quite sure that no Argentinean fan in the world would have complained one second if it had been the other way round.

The penaly for Germany though was wrong. You might argue that it could have been called outside the box, but honestly, I don't think even then. Völler dived and there was no need to call that. However, there two scenes earlier in the game in which a penalty should have been awarded (one for each team). For Argentina, a clear penalty was not given after Serrizuela (I think it was him) got fouled by Buchwald (not sure, might have been Brehme as well, don't remember). Clear peno. On the other side Goycochea jammed Augenthaler's leg between his legs (around the 60th minute) and that was also a definite peno. Neither was given. I know from that earlier discussion 4 years ago that some Argentinean fans in here still didn't think that the incident with Augenthaler was a peno. For me it was one and that's also visible on the available videos. There was one other short video on youtube displaying not the whole game, but only this particular scene with a different camera angle. On that one it was 100% clear that Augenthaler got fouled. Unfortunately it got removed from youtube. Would have loved to link it here if it had been still around.

To restate my roundup of this game: I think that the German and Argentinean fans have different views about this game, which is absolutely understandable given the high value of it. It was there WC final, it doesn't get any higher than this. I wish for a fair game on Sunday without any doubtful scenes, so that there won't be any ongoing discussions whether one team got an undeserved win, respectively a win based on a wrong decision by the ref. May the better team win.

[Venti Quattro]

Are Argentina one of the most unconvincing finalists ever?

Messi hasn't looked Messianic at all in the KO stages. But if Lolland did clinch the final berth they would have the tag of most unconvincing finalist. Fact is Germany skewered everything when they killed Brazil at Belo Horizonte.

[ManuLoco]

In the beginning let me say that I moved my answer from the ARG-NED thread into this one as it's about the final.

Well, I already knew that these issues would be brought up again after yesterday's win against the Netherlands. I will now write my opinion about the mentioned incidents, but nothing more. I don't think that there will be any fruitful discusssion about it, the points of view from German and Argentinean fans about it are just too different. I understand and accept that, but I have heavy doubts that a discussion about it on this board will change anything. IIRC we had such a discussion already back in 2010 and the viewpoints didn't change at all. Again, this will be my only post regarding these issues.

Firstly, I will describe my thoughts about the incident with Klinsmann and Monzon.

Here is the video of the -> INCIDENT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME).

First of all, I will definitely give you that Klinsmann has his fair share for sure of letting this incident in such a bad memory. Were Klinsmann's subsequent theatrics after the tackle obviously exaggerated? Yes, they were. No question. We all know that Klinsmann was a theatrical princess, however that challenge was just nasty. Monzon had no chance at all to reach the ball. Klinsmann had already kicked the ball to the side before the defender even goes to ground, and then the defender kicks his leg out and up clearly aimed for Klinsmann's shin; the ball was long gone and Monzon knew it. Dirty tackle with a malicious intent. He was nowhere near the ball.

Monzon then hit Klinsmann's leg. You may see clearly on 0:46 - 0:48. Honestly, I have even problems to call that a "tackle". That wasn't an attempt for the ball, it was an attempt to send him into the hospital for several months if the leg had been broken. To cut it short, it was a high, outstretched leg and cleats up challenge that made contact with Klinsmann's right leg. Klinsmann did flop around dramatically, yes, but that is a foul and a red card to anyone who knows jack about soccer, despite all the theatrics by the German player. Exaggerated fall and red card worthy foul. Both sides of the coin are true. You simply cannot challenge like that.

Even if you think there was still no contact, it was then the successfully attempt of Klinsmann to avoid a broken leg. A tackle with an outstretched leg and cleats up is a straight red (feel free to read up the FIFA instructions). So, the card was justified. If Klinsmann had gotten a yellow for exaggerating the contact, fine with me, but that doesn't change the correct card for Monzon.

On that second red against Dezotti: It was also the correct call. Yes, it was an unsportsmanlike play by Jürgen Kohler (attempt to waste time), but Dezotti threw him down by the neck. If you clothesline someone, you've got to go. That was nothing but a violent conduct. Kohler should have seen yellow here, though. Dezotti already had a yellow card earlier in the game. So, even if you give Dezotti a yellow for it, he would have been sent off as it was his second. Back in 1990 there wasn't a yellow-red card. A second yellow resulted in a straight red back then.

So, the 2 red cards were correct calls and honestly, I am quite sure that no Argentinean fan in the world would have complained one second if it had been the other way round.

The penaly for Germany though was wrong. You might argue that it could have been called outside the box, but honestly, I don't think even then. Völler dived and there was no need to call that. However, there two scenes earlier in the game in which a penalty should have been awarded (one for each team). For Argentina, a clear penalty was not given after Serrizuela (I think it was him) got fouled by Buchwald (not sure, might have been Brehme as well, don't remember). Clear peno. On the other side Goycochea jammed Augenthaler's leg between his legs (around the 60th minute) and that was also a definite peno. Neither was given. I know from that earlier discussion 4 years ago that some Argentinean fans in here still didn't think that the incident with Augenthaler was a peno. For me it was one and that's also visible on the available videos. There was one other short video on youtube displaying not the whole game, but only this particular scene with a different camera angle. On that one it was 100% clear that Augenthaler got fouled. Unfortunately it got removed from youtube. Would have loved to link it here if it had been still around.

To restate my roundup of this game: I think that the German and Argentinean fans have different views about this game, which is absolutely understandable given the high value of it. It was there WC final, it doesn't get any higher than this. I wish for a fair game on Sunday without any doubtful scenes, so that there won't be any ongoing discussions whether one team got an undeserved win, respectively a win based on a wrong decision by the ref. May the better team win.

To me the klinsmann foul is a yellow. If it wasn't for the theatrics displayed be Klinsmann flying through the air like a bird ala Robben, hitting the ground and, not being happy with the flop yet, made that weird thing at the end with his legs... and the crying... if it wasn't for that over-reaction any credible referee would've given Monzon a yellow card. Like you said, nothing's gonna change the outcome of that game, so there's no point arguing about it. I just hope Muller doesn't try any flop.

[lefty]

I love this matchup


Some people are saying that i t would have ben better if we Germany vs Holland but I prefer Germany vs Argies because those teams are so different

It's gona be a fantastic match imo

[resistanze]

Spain won the WC by winning 1-0 every game in the KO stage.

[Jodelo]

Rumours coming up that Eriksson is/could be the referee.

[hater]

:lol thinking Messi will put on a show. Germany is probably best team at defending the midget

:lmao thinking this is going to be a great game :lol this is going to be a boring game as Germany will put the midgets on lock down :lol

I'll be rooting for argentina but they have about a 20% chance of not getting anihiliated

[ManuLoco]

There is no way Webber is the referee. An english in an argentine final match??? I'm hoping it's the italian guy, Rizolli is it? The worst referee would be the spaniard.

[Sportstudi]

There is no way Webber is the referee. An english in an argentine final match??? I'm hoping it's the italian guy, Rizolli is it? The worst referee would be the spaniard.

His name is Webb.

[DAF86]

The game is on Sunday. Pretty sure Argentina and Germany are both gonna get adequate rest so I don't get why these pundits are saying that Argentina is gonna come into the game fatigued. The Germans just have an extra day to fuck Brazilian bitches, that's all.

120 minutes + penalties one day later after the other team played a glorofied training match is a huge disadvantage. Specially after 7 games in little more than 20 days.

The more I think about it I just don't see how Argentina can pull this one. Remember that their 2nd and 3rd best player on paper are injured (Di Maria and Aguero). Added to the fact that 90% of the stadium will be against them and that Germany would still be the better side on equal terms and there's just no chance. It would take a massive choke job from the Germans, tbh.

[Sportstudi]

120 minutes + penalties one day later after the other team played a glorofied training match is a huge disadvantage. Specially after 7 games in little more than 20 days.

The more I think about it I just don't see how Argentina can pull this one. Remember that their 2nd and 3rd best player on paper are injured (Di Maria and Aguero). Added to the fact that 90% of the stadium will be against them and that Germany would still be the better side on equal terms and there's just no chance. It would take a massive choke job from the Germans, tbh.

What's up with Agüero?

[DAF86]

Are Argentina one of the most unconvincing finalists ever? None of their performances so far have been great, and at points they've been extremely lucky.

I'm pulling for them because I want to see Messi win, only for the :cry Messi needs to win a WC to be placed with Pele :cry brigade to shut up.

1990 Argentina comes to mind. Actually that team is clearly worse than this one by a distance. This team at least won every match of the WC untill the one against Holland.

Usually the teams that end up on the final are teams that don't do so great on the group stage, you rarely see a team that breezes through the group stage getting to the final. That's why I was so calm when Argentina started shaky and everybody was freaking out.

[Sportstudi]

1990 Argentina comes to mind. Actually that team is clearly worse than this one by a distance. This team at least won every match of the WC untill the one against Holland.

Usually the teams that end up on the final are teams that don't do so great on the group stage, you rarely see a team that breezes through the group stage getting to the final. That's why I was so calm when Argentina started shaky and everybody was freaking out.

That's why I wasn't convinced with Holland. They were great during group stage, but it's important to peak at the right time. The Netherlands peaked too early. Great in the group stage, looking pretty average in the elimination rounds. Had huge luck to get past Mexico, needed penalty shootout against Costa Rica. And vs. your team they were far away from being good.

[DAF86]

What's up with Agüero?

He tore a muscle during this WC, he's available but nowhere near his actual form. When he came in against Holland he was the worst player on the pitch.

[ManuLoco]

His name is Webb.

lol yes. The bald guy.

[Sportstudi]

He tore a muscle during this WC, he's available but nowhere near his actual form. When he came in against Holland he was the worst player on the pitch.

True. I recall thinking why he was so slow, lacking basically every bit of energy he's known for.

[Sportstudi]

lol yes. The bald guy.

He has been decent though thus far. But I can understand why you don't want him as th ref -> Islas Malvinas...

[ManuLoco]

Even before that injury you could see Aguero was fat and slow. Now he's fat, slow, clumsy with the ball and afraid of getting injured again.

[ManuLoco]

He has been decent though thus far. But I can understand why you don't want him as th ref -> Islas Malvinas...

yup. Not only that but the hand of god. Imagine if your team scores a hand goal!!!!

[Sportstudi]

yup. Not only that but the hand of god. Imagine if your team scores a hand goal!!!!

well, regarding the issue of scoring by using the hand of god your team has more experience with that though. but pls don't teach us about that on sunday :lol

[ElNono]

well, regarding the issue of scoring by using the hand of god your team has more experience with that though. but pls don't teach us about that on sunday :lol

If we end up scoring with a handball, I'll take it, tbh... plus any England fan can tell you how longlasting the butthurt is when you lose a game that way :lol

[Sportstudi]

If we end up scoring with a handball, I'll take it, tbh... plus any England fan can tell you how longlasting the butthurt is when you lose a game that way :lol

forever? :lol

[it's me]

The argies have ....ZERO ... Cero ...niente ... Nada ...NOOO chance against the Germs tbh ... Robben knows his shit.

[it's me]

Too much of lucking out Brazil style... I don't like the germs champing out ... but facts are facts ... They play great team ball... Argies play like real shit tbh.

[hater]

agree and disagree ^

I would not say nazi harborers play like shit. they had mas o menos World Cup(they did luck out with their path to the Finals tbh. Everyone knew they had red carpet to the finals thanks to Grondona) But I gotta give props to them on their game vs. Hollandaise. they played as a typical Euro, very boring but making very very few mistakes.

I will repeat again they have about 20% chance vs the Krouts thou

no doubt

[leo_d]

The bar at the brittish embassy in Argentina is called "the hand of god"

[Venti Quattro]

The argies have ....ZERO ... Cero ...niente ... Nada ...NOOO chance against the Germs tbh ... Robben knows his shit.

Cry some more Robben :cry :cry :cry

:lmao Solo robar

[Baam]

120 minutes + penalties one day later after the other team played a glorofied training match is a huge disadvantage. Specially after 7 games in little more than 20 days.

The more I think about it I just don't see how Argentina can pull this one. Remember that their 2nd and 3rd best player on paper are injured (Di Maria and Aguero). Added to the fact that 90% of the stadium will be against them and that Germany would still be the better side on equal terms and there's just no chance. It would take a massive choke job from the Germans, tbh.

:lmao talk about making excuses... Man up already, Messi ran less than Neuer so far :lol... Pathetic stuff from someone who has the hypocrisy to shit on Colombia :downspin:, show some pride son.

[dfens]

https://www.anonimg.com/img/48e4435543efd9e4f6e0c245e2f45e18.jpg

[mudyez]

Gotta root for the team in black and white to succeed the team in red and yellow as champs all over again!

[ManuLoco]

Argentina, give us one more!

6yk6PEkduP8

[Relevancy]

I dont think Germany will have it easy at all, Argentina will play there hearts out and play whatever style is necessary to control Germany, whether its just falling back and playing rock solid defense, or utilizing that great offense they have.

sure germany has a better team, but Argentina has the best player in the world surrounded by solid players who are more then willing to do the dirty work. If theres a match where Messi really has to give it his all, its this one.

[lefty]

Argentina vs. Germany final referee controversy echoes, 24 years later



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Referee Edgardo Codesal, second from left, was at the center of controversy in the 1990 World Cup final between Argentina and West Germany.



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Posted: Fri Jul. 11, 2014
The outstanding image from the last time Germany and Argentina met in the World Cup final, back in Italy in 1990, was not Andreas Brehme striking home the winning penalty in the 85th minute, securing the 1-0 win for the European side, nor was it coach Franz Beckenbauer celebrating with the trophy.
It was actually current U.S. national team manager Jurgen Klinsmann, tackled late by Pedro Monzon after a one-two combination with Lothar Matthaus, rolling three times and then raising up on one shoulder to continue his pained reaction. The challenge was in keeping with the rest of the game, and Monzon, a halftime substitute, was shown a straight red card for the tackle by referee Edgardo Codesal.

Worse was to come for Argentina: five minutes from time, Codesal awarded West Germany a penalty after Matthaus played through Rudi Voller, who, tightly marked by Roberto Sensini, fell to the ground in the area.
Previously in the match, Codesal had rejected Gabriel Calderon’s claims after a similar clash with Klaus Augenthaler.
Two minutes later, Codesal sent off another Argentine, Gustavo Dezotti, for grabbing Jurgen Kohler around the neck and wrestling him to the ground in an effort to get the ball off him for a throw-in. Codesal ran over and theatrically brandished his second red of the game, reducing Argentina to nine men.
“The referee has been physically manhandled by five players and if Argentina continue like this, FIFA will have to ban them from the next World Cup!” said BBC commentator John Motson. “Surely you can’t have this in the final!”
PLANET FUTBOL (http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-futbol)http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/styles/si_tile_image/public/2014/07/09/lionelmessipkwin.jpg?itok=U4dkyNpI (http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-futbol/2014/07/09/argentina-netherlands-semifinal-world-cup-maracana-brazil)Brazil's nightmare gets worse: Argentina to play for World Cup title (http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-futbol/2014/07/09/argentina-netherlands-semifinal-world-cup-maracana-brazil)


by Jonathan Wilson (http://www.si.com/author/jonathan-wilson)





This was Codesal’s last game as a referee. When he returned to Mexico after the game [he was Mexican-Uruguayan, and his grandfather was born in Argentina], he was confronted with hordes of journalists.“I was brave and honest, like I always am,” he said. “The foul was Argentina’s fault, not mine. I’m calm and happy.”
At that World Cup, Codesal had taken charge of Italy’s 1-0 win over USA, awarding a penalty missed by Gianluca Viali, and blew for two penalties as England beat Cameroon 3-2 in the quarterfinal. FIFA observers gave him an average rating of 8.5 for his performances.
Codesal’s father, Jose Maria, was a referee who officiated at the 1966 World Cup. The one piece of advice he gave his son: “Don’t ever give a penalty if you think you will have to explain it a thousand times.” Nine years on, he remained convinced that his decision had been the correct one.
“I have no doubt,” he told Ole. “The referees don’t have to look for intent, they have to look for contact. This is what I saw: the Argentine tried to get to the ball first but he stretched his leg and tackled the German. It was a penalty. I was convinced at the time and I have not changed my mind since. For me, it’s a closed case.”
The case, actually, was far from closed. Soon after that interview, Humberto Rojano, the former president of the Mexican Referees’ Commission, went public on how Codesal had been appointed. He spoke of a meeting he had with Javier Arriaga, former head of the Mexican FA’s Referees’ Commission and a key figure in FIFA’s Referees’ Commission in 1990. Arriaga also happened to be Codesal’s father-in-law.
Rojano told Mexican paper La Jornada that “the authorities,” *a phrase that is deliberately vague, *had told Arriaga that “Argentina didn’t have to win.”
“I know the Argentines still hate me and that hurts,” Codesal told Reforma years later. “I love them and it hurts that I made them suffer. I would have liked Argentina won their third World Cup back in 1990. If I were God, I would change things, but I’m not God. I do know that in 50 years, they still won’t forgive me.”
Codesal had actually watched the 1986 World Cup final between the same sides in Mexico, and had been supporting Argentina. But in 2011, over 20 years after the incident, Codesal’s stance had hardened against the continued hostility from the losing nation.
“I admire the Argentines for their will to win, but they have not learnt to lose, they just can’t accept it,” he said. “Someone told them that they lost because I was the referee, and they believed it. When Maradona uses his hand to score, that's intelligent; but if they don't win, it’s because someone stole from them.”
FIFA will announce the referee for Sunday's clash between Germany and Argentina Friday afternoon, and whoever earns the honor will surely be operating with the cloud of Codesal lingering in the memory.



:wow :lol

[Sportstudi]

Rizzoli will be the ref on Sunday.

[ElNono]

He was the guy that reffed us against Belgium... no complains, tbh

[ManuLoco]

Rizzoli will be the ref on Sunday.

Cool, not a bad choice. I hope he doesn't fuck up any important call for both teams.

[ManuLoco]

aE3irVX6Bm

fuck, does anyone know how to embed a tweet on this forum? Fucking twitter!

[lefty]

aE3irVX6Bm

fuck, does anyone know how to embed a tweet on this forum? Fucking twitter!

We do
We won't tell you

[Venti Quattro]

Are you ready Slomo the Slovenian master? Germany or Argentina's Soccer Forum skin will (and should) be changed by Sunday night.

[Infinite_limit]

It's only fair

Highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zddvQRozlc

Shootout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7yY2jvGhQA


http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/part1_zps2b7979e7.png

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/part2_zps8e01dd86.png

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/part3_zps7b72c6c7.png

[Infinite_limit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOEaXgCQ61A


http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/part1_zpsf7414226.png

http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/part2_zps4b6a166b.png

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Fair, indeed.


http://youtu.be/QpDc3HiuTnM


http://youtu.be/6ElfsbxbX-E


http://youtu.be/WKlsZYxcmfc

Anyways, must be sad rooting for another nation, not the one you were born in :lol

[lefty]

^
Venti Quattro

[Pocho La Pantera]

Fair, indeed.





Anyways, must be sad rooting for another nation, not the one you were born in :lol
Infinite bullshit is not german??

[ManuLoco]

Ix9YhUoWySU

[DAF86]

:lmao talk about making excuses... Man up already, Messi ran less than Neuer so far :lol... Pathetic stuff from someone who has the hypocrisy to shit on Colombia :downspin:, show some pride son.

Colombia was my second favourite team on this WC but they shat the bed against Brazil son.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

DiMaria left today's practice hobbling... most likely out for tomorrow unless they apply some injections and he tries to play through it...

[Venti Quattro]

DiMaria left today's practice hobbling... most likely out for tomorrow unless they apply some injections and he tries to play through it...

He gon' get from Messi's HGH stash?

[Franklin]

Messi can't carry the team to nothing by himself imho. You know this Argentinian team is rather weak when TOSBs like Maxi Rodriguez get considerable minutes on this team.

[ElNono]

Messi can't carry the team to nothing by himself imho. You know this Argentinian team is rather weak when TOSBs like Maxi Rodriguez get considerable minutes on this team.

Maxi played like 60 mins all tournament... :lol

[ManuLoco]

It will be so embarassing to win the semifinal scoring 7 goals and then lose the finals. It will be the biggest choke in recent WC history. If I were a german I would be worried.

[resistanze]

It will be so embarassing to win the semifinal scoring 7 goals and then lose the finals. It will be the biggest choke in recent WC history. If I were a german I would be worried.

:lol Stop it, no it wouldn't. A bunch of teenagers wouldn't have given up 7 goals - that's an anomaly. Brazil today got dickwhipped 3-0 by a team that had scored only 1 goal in its past 3 games.

Germany has looked decent, but not amazing all tournament. I still have 2-1 Argentina, come at me nigguh.

[Infinite_limit]

:lol Stop it, no it wouldn't. A bunch of teenagers wouldn't have given up 7 goals - that's an anomaly. Brazil today got dickwhipped 3-0 by a team that had scored only 1 goal in its past 3 games.

Germany has looked decent, but not amazing all tournament. I still have 2-1 Argentina, come at me nigguh.
You would. First your Black Brazilians were outed and now it's down to the Beaners.

[resistanze]

You would. First your Black Brazilians were outed and now it's down to the Beaners.

You mad? Why don't you support Serbia or some of the other unsung heavyweights from UEFA.

I've rooted against Brazil the whole tourney :lol

[Sportstudi]

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10475515_10203001485575541_4198227386465655671_n.j pg

[Amuseddaysleeper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwFhPqLcW3U#t=307

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Fuck, I can't sleep. Been this way for the past 2 days. I'm so fucking pumped, can't this thing start already? I'm making meself some Fernets with Coca, maybe I'll get to sleep a few hours...

Can't even imagine what it's like for the coaching staffs and players? Do they take sleeping pills? They have to find a way to channel all that anxiety and energy into the pitch or they'd could make serious fuck-ups, for both sides.

[Infinite_limit]

Fuck, I can't sleep. Been this way for the past 2 days. I'm so fucking pumped, can't this thing start already? I'm making meself some Fernets with Coca, maybe I'll get to sleep a few hours...

Can't even imagine what it's like for the coaching staffs and players? Do they take sleeping pills? They have to find a way to channel all that anxiety and energy into the pitch or they'd could make serious fuck-ups, for both sides.
I noticed Dutch GK had enormous bags under his eyes during the Argentina match. Doubt he slept much

[Venti Quattro]

I'm making meself some Fernets with Coca, maybe I'll get to sleep a few hours...
Stay off drugs, amigo

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Stay off drugs, amigo

LOL, no that "Coca" that way I wouldn't be able to sleep at all and I'd probably start shaking with convulsions.

http://www.therealargentina.com/argentinian-wine-blog/confessions-of-a-fernet-branca-drinker/

http://mybeautifulair.com/2011/01/14/5-favorite-things-about-fernet/

[ElNono]

http://bucket3.clanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/45/mundial-brasil-2014-1914545w620.jpg

[ElNono]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsV8LH5IMAA-hVc.jpg:large

[The Reckoning]

germany blew their wad too soon. argies will take it imo.

[Baam]

How can Messi be tired as fuck? He played half the season and the other half he didn't do much... Then in the world cup he had games where he ran 5km :lol...

Imo the HGH is catching up to him or something... I guess I'm rooting for him but if he's really exhausted then I don't see how they can win...

[Blizzardwizard]

Time for Messi to be the greatest :cry Mascherano if they win should be player of the tournament though.

[mudyez]

Only for Germans (yeah, the last time someone said that, it ment a lot of trouble ^^) that are Spurs fans:

More nervous?: Game1 of these NBA-Finals or now regarding the WC-Finale?

For me its the NBA-Finals even if its only a Game1 and not Game7.

[ElNono]

:flag:

[Virgil]

LeBron is in Rio.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsbRWY5CAAAgHJN.png


https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/488307793212866560/photo/1

[Virgil]

David Hasselhoff says Germany will win.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCIsXcEdv3E#t=129

[urunobili]

Argentina 2-1 TBH

[resistanze]

Argentina 2-1 with Messi and Mascherano scoring.

[Kawhi]

How many times are they gonna show LeBron? Heard he's there

[Splits]

Mascherano has a torn anus...


They have still not fully convinced in this World Cup, but have compensated by really knowing how to dig in and fight. Seen as Alejandro Sabella’s “on-pitch manager”, Mascherano sets that tone.

He is prepared to go the distance, to feel the pain. Wednesday night was an almost literal example.

Mascherano’s early head injury may have received most of the attention, but he was preoccupied with pain in another part of his body.
“I don’t want to be rude,” he says with a smirk about the stretched challenge that stopped Robben, “but I opened my anus.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/worldcup/germany-vs-argentina-world-cup-2014-lionel-messi-javier-mascherano-is-key-for-argentina-9598978.html

[Trill Clinton]

i would like to see argentina and messi da gawd win, but germany is playing out of their mindshttp://i57.tinypic.com/i5q4as.png

[baseline bum]

I'm rooting for the Mexicans

[Blizzardwizard]

It's almost time for a SOCCER SHOWDOWN.

SOCCER. YEA.

[ElNono]

dont mind me if I don't post much during the game... I'll be here afterwards, per par

[resistanze]

Gonna leave for the pub too, probably won't post either

[ElNono]

Dive Maria won't start. Enzo Perez will.

[ElNono]

:lol Demichelis tweeted Brazilians threw fireworks until 4 AM to prevent them from sleeping.

[ElNono]

FIFA VIP list... Lebron made it :lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsb_GICCQAESgFv.jpg:large

[Sportstudi]

dont mind me if I don't post much during the game... I'll be here afterwards, per par

Same here. I will be here after the game. Maybe also during half time, but I won't post much during the game if at all.

[ElNono]

Just saw Putin in there :wow

[Sportstudi]

Dive Maria won't start. Enzo Perez will.

Any chance he can play if needed?

[Sportstudi]

:lol Demichelis tweeted Brazilians threw fireworks until 4 AM to prevent them from sleeping.

And Coca-Cola made a huge party in the German hotel :lol The German players didn't sleep much either :lol

[ElNono]

Any chance he can play if needed?

I guess it depends on the score. He'll be in the bench.

[baseline bum]

dont mind me if I don't post much during the game... I'll be here afterwards, per par

:cry Crying in your Tecate? :cry

[Jodelo]

I guess it depends on the score. He'll be in the bench.

But that's just stupid. If he tries, go from the start and see if he can, if not sub him out. Now if he checks into the game and then gets reinjured, you wasted a sub...

[ElNono]

:cry Crying in your Tecate? :cry

:cry dos equis :cry

[Sportstudi]

Germany will use the same starting 11 as against France and Brazil.

[ElNono]

But that's just stupid. If he tries, go from the start and see if he can, if not sub him out. Now if he checks into the game and then gets reinjured, you wasted a sub...

I think they don't want to burn an early sub... I think if the team is down and you gotta go all out he might play, but frankly, I doubt he's fit. Those injuries take longer than 8 days to heal.

[Jodelo]

I think they don't want to burn an early sub... I think if the team is down and you gotta go all out he might play, but frankly, I doubt he's fit. Those injuries take longer than 8 days to heal.

Better to burn one, even if early, than two...

[ElNono]

Better to burn one, even if early, than two...

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I suspect that if he goes in at all, it will be for the last 10-20 mins... he won't be subbed out.

[skmblz]

2-1 Germany

[Jodelo]

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I suspect that if he goes in at all, it will be for the last 10-20 mins... he won't be subbed out.

And i think you misunderstood me. IF he goes in and reinjures himself after 5 minutes or so, he has to subbed out again... So, burn another sub then.

That's why i would start him and see if it works. If not, i sub him out and still have 2 left instead of 1.

[ElNono]

And i think you misunderstood me. IF he goes in and reinjures himself after 5 minutes or so, he has to subbed out again... So, burn another sub then.

That's why i would start him and see if it works. If not, i sub him out and still have 2 left instead of 1.

Nah, if he can't play at least 10-15 mins, he won't play at all. Which IMO is what's going to happen.

[ElNono]

tbh, nobody really knows how injured he really is or if he recovered enough or not... very little info other than he won't start.

[Jodelo]

Nah, if he can't play at least 10-15 mins, he won't play at all. Which IMO is what's going to happen.

What if he says, he can go but after like 5-10 minutes he has to leave? Like i said, i would start and ride him all the way until he can't go further. We will see...

[velik_m]

Just saw Putin in there :wow

He's on south america tour. Just visited Argentina.

[ElNono]

What if he says, he can go but after like 5-10 minutes he has to leave? Like i said, i would start and ride him all the way until he can't go further. We will see...

then we're playing with 10... because the only way I see him playing is if we're down by a goal with 15 mins left and he's the last sub in...

[ElNono]

I'm just guessing here though, like I said, I don't really know what's the state of his injury...

[ElNono]

http://bucket2.clanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/24/mundial-brasil-2014-1914724.jpg

[Infinite_limit]

Fuhrer Checking In

[Jodelo]

Khedira out :wow:depressed

Kramer in.

[Sportstudi]

News: Likely Khedira can't play. Not sure yet, but it's said that he has some calf issues. Kramer will replace him if true.

[FlAVaK]

Calf injury...

[Trill Clinton]

inb4 geeks who claim they hate soccer but are camped out itt watching the game for the next 2 hours

[Jodelo]

The whole midfield dynamic changes now. Kroos, Schweinsteiger, Khedira, tough to find a better combination.

[resistanze]

inb4 geeks who claim they hate soccer but are camped out itt watching the game for the next 2 hours
http://replygif.net/thumbnail/95.gif

[Muser]

Let's go Argentina!!

[Infinite_limit]

Khedira out :wow:depressed

Kramer in.
Fkn damnit

[FlAVaK]

Fkn damnit

http://appealingstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Kramer.jpg

[Darth_Pelican]

Disappointed that Argentina is wearing the dark blue tbh

[milkyway21]

GO ARGENTINA !!!!!

[Blizzardwizard]

First goal wins? I hope not and it turns into more of a Arsenal vs Barca 2006 sort of game.

[Muser]

Germany look really sharp early on

[Muser]

But Argentina look really dangerous on the break. This is awesome!

[FlAVaK]

As expected...

[ElNono]

det dive

[Sportstudi]

Should have been a penalty. Not on purpose, but a foul is a foul.

[FlAVaK]

Stanley Cup or what?

[ElNono]

ouch

[ElNono]

OMG Fatguain :wow

[Sportstudi]

Kroos... stupid idiot

[resistanze]

WOW

[Muser]

Gonzalol

[01Snake]

Massive fuckup there

[RobbyH]

thats the chance argentina will regret not capitalizing on

[ElNono]

you stupid fuck motherfucker

[Blizzardwizard]

:lmao

[ElNono]

det dive pocho

[Trill Clinton]

smh

[ElNono]

BUUULLLSHIIIIUTTTT

[RobbyH]

:lmao fucking dumbass

[ElNono]

yeah it was offisde :lol

[Sportstudi]

Clear offside.

[Muser]

Rofl and he buries the offside one

[RobbyH]

should be 2-0.. this will haunt argentina

[ElNono]

fatguain better not head back to ARG if we lose this

[Muser]

Damn Kramer doesn't know where he is

[RD2191]

Wtf why didn't that count?

[Sportstudi]

Kramer out... Argentinean butchers...

[NASpurs]

Kramer's eyes are glassy as fuck. Dude is in another planet.

[Blizzardwizard]

Wtf why didn't that count?

:lmao

[RD2191]

Det flop

[Muser]

Kramer out... Argentinean butchers...

Rofl you guys have been just as bad

[NASpurs]

That was dirty as fuck

[RD2191]

Argentina with no regard for Nonos life.

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When does Lavessi get a Yellow for diving?

[Sportstudi]

Rofl you guys have been just as bad

by now yes :lol after these fouls by schweinsteiger and höwedes

[Muser]

Lol at that being a goal kick

[NASpurs]

:lmao who the fuck fell in the background trying to get the ball for Argentina

[Sportstudi]

But no Khedira and now also without Kramer... that's huge. I hope they can sustain.

[Sportstudi]

Lol at that being a goal kick

Schürrle irritated Romero, thus he was active and it was called offside.

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But no Khedira and now also without Kramer... that's huge. I hope they can sustain.
Did the formation change or Ozil moved inside

[FlAVaK]

it was Özil...

[RD2191]

Nono you alive? Don't choke on dem chips. Tbh.

[01Snake]

Germany getting lucky as fuck so far!

[Muser]

When Messi gets in behind the defence he's going to town. Need to play it through to him more

[ffadicted]

finally joining in this shit after coming home from work... how's the game so far? who looks better?

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Stupid Beaners

[Sportstudi]

Did the formation change or Ozil moved inside

Özil moved inside

[Muser]

Jesus Christ Muller is such a faggot

[Sportstudi]

Jesus Christ Muller is such a faggot

He got a punch by Perez. He had every right to complain. Not sure if your broadcaster showed it.

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finally joining in this shit after coming home from work... how's the game so far? who looks better?
Germany has lost 2 of their MFs

[01Snake]

#9 looks like he could be related to Dirk.

[Muser]

He got a punch by Perez. He had every right to complain. Not sure if your broadcaster showed it.

He went down holding his knee, i doubt he punched his knee.

[NASpurs]

finally joining in this shit after coming home from work... how's the game so far? who looks better?

Germany is dominating the ball but Argentina has had the best chances to score

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When Messi gets in behind the defence he's going to town. Need to play it through to him more
He was probably Off-Sides last chance