Please do not trade Wiggins for Love

[StrengthAndHonor]

We need to see a Lebron and Wiggins duo materialize. Do not trade him for Love.

Signed

Avid NBA Fan

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[RsxPiimp]

THIS X1000000000000000

Lebron and Wiggins is going to be a beast.

[Spurs9]

Looking forward to seeing them play together too tbh

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THIS X1000000000000000

Lebron and Wiggins is going to be a beast.

If it don't ring, it's worthless as tits on a boar hog.

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Looking forward to seeing them play together too tbh

I'll just bet you are.

[Leetonidas]

Eh, Wiggins could be a bust imo he is all flash and no substance right now. At least you know Love is a dominant offensive force and rebounds at a top level in the NBA. Trading an unproven commodity for a player who is widely regarded as the best PF today is a no-brainer tbh

[RsxPiimp]

Eh, Wiggins could be a bust imo he is all flash and no substance right now. At least you know Love is a dominant offensive force and rebounds at a top level in the NBA. Trading an unproven commodity for a player who is widely regarded as the best PF today is a no-brainer tbh

Bosh was also a dominant offensive force who rebounds at a top level before committing with Miami, Love will possibly fill the same role when he plays with James. Cleveland doesn't have to take the bait tho, bottom line. Love is a FA this year, he's probably gone either way. I'd offer a combination of Bennet or Thompson plus Waiters and Miami's draft pick in 2015. I think Varejao is also expiring this year. They can make a run at Love next year.

[pikkiwoki]

serious? wiggins can't even dribble

aaron gordon and julius randle have better handles than wiggins, even though they aren't even perimeter players lol

harrison barnes 2.0

[RsxPiimp]

If it don't ring, it's worthless as tits on a boar hog.

Would take time. New coach, young team. No one said this is going to be overnight.

[Xylus]

Agree with OP, Wiggins and Lebron would be the most athletically gifted wing duo in NBA history. Do want.

[Killakobe81]

Bosh was also a dominant offensive force who rebounds at a top level before committing with Miami, Love will possibly fill the same role when he plays with James. Cleveland doesn't have to take the bait tho, bottom line. Love is a FA this year, he's probably gone either way. I'd offer a combination of Bennet or Thompson plus Waiters and Miami's draft pick in 2015. I think Varejao is also expiring this year. They can make a run at Love next year.

This. Offer Miami's first rounder. Thompson and Bennet that is two recent lottery picks plus a potential one from Miami who is in scramble mode.

[Killakobe81]

Agree with OP, Wiggins and Lebron would be the most athletically gifted wing duo in NBA history. Do want.

Lebron can mold a Scottie in his image I agree would be great theatre. Every Online NBA2K15 player is choosing Cavs. Designers should artificially inflate the spurs, tbh.

[DJR210]

Agreed.

Irving throwing lobs to LeWig on the fast break? I'm in. The evolution of the league is small, they need to say fuck Kevin Love and stick with Wiggins.

[Mark in Austin]

If I'm the Cavs I offer one of Bennett/Thompson, plus Waiters, plus a #1 pick for Love. No more.

[DJR210]

Eh, Wiggins could be a bust imo he is all flash and no substance right now. At least you know Love is a dominant offensive force and rebounds at a top level in the NBA. Trading an unproven commodity for a player who is widely regarded as the best PF today is a no-brainer tbh

I agree with that too, but you gotta think LeBron being on the floor with him makes him much more of a threat. Plus he goes under his wing.

[RsxPiimp]

:lol Thing is, the Cavs do not need to rush. Lebron knows it's a process, even said it in his statement. "It will take time". Love and his white ass can force Minny to trade him to Cleveland before the deadline or simply wait next season. Moving capspace and all is easy work in Cleveland's case, since they have TONS of assets in rookie pay scale. You don't give up on Wiggins especially with a great player like Lebron who can maximize his potential and make his transition a easier.

[Leetonidas]

Bosh was also a dominant offensive force who rebounds at a top level before committing with Miami, Love will possibly fill the same role when he plays with James. Cleveland doesn't have to take the bait tho, bottom line. Love is a FA this year, he's probably gone either way. I'd offer a combination of Bennet or Thompson plus Waiters and Miami's draft pick in 2015. I think Varejao is also expiring this year. They can make a run at Love next year.

This is all true, though I think putting Bosh in the same sentence with Love as far as rebounding goes is kind of a stretch tbh

[100%duncan]

:lol Thing is, the Cavs do not need to rush. Lebron knows it's a process, even said it in his statement. "It will take time". Love and his white ass can force Minny to trade him to Cleveland before the deadline or simply wait next season. Moving capspace and all is easy work in Cleveland's case, since they have TONS of assets in rookie pay scale. You don't give up on Wiggins especially with a great player like Lebron who can maximize his potential and make his transition a easier.
Cleveland has 3 years more of Prime Lebron. And that's it.

[RsxPiimp]

This is all true, though I think putting Bosh in the same sentence with Love as far as rebounding goes is kind of a stretch tbh

Yeah, true it is, Love is a different beast on the glass, but it was close, for one season at least lol. The year Rupaul averaged 12 rpg, IIRC.

[RsxPiimp]

Cleveland has 3 years more of Prime Lebron. And that's it.

I think with Cleveland, we'll finally see Lebron transition from ball handler to perhaps finally develop and become a legit low post player. Kyrie can't play Wade's role, so I foresee him playing strictly PG. Kyrie will take tons of workload off Lebron's shoulder. You have to realize he was Miami's ball handler, scorer and defender. With one less task in CLE, he should be fine going forward.

[100%duncan]

I think with Cleveland, we'll finally see Lebron transition from ball handler to perhaps finally develop and become a legit low post player. Kyrie can't play Wade's role, so I foresee him playing strictly PG. Kyrie will take tons of workload off Lebron's shoulder. You have to realize he was Miami's ball handler, scorer and defender. With one less task in CLE, he should be fine going forward.
Doesn't change the fact that they have 3 years to win the ship IMHO. Anthony Davis takes over then.

[Captivus]

Doesn't change the fact that they have 3 years to win the ship IMHO. Anthony Davis takes over then.

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[ajh18]

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I think this offer is the start of a process to get them Love without trading Wiggins. And I think it may just work.

Add to this offer and make it Waiters, Bennett, 2 first round picks (one can be the Heat's, lol) and a second round pick. That's a nice core of youth and picks for Minnesota to build around. Cavs have 3 picks in rd 1 next year, I believe.

[Killakobe81]

I think this offer is the start of a process to get them Love without trading Wiggins. And I think it may just work.

Add to this offer and make it Waiters, Bennett, 2 first round picks (one can be the Heat's, lol) and a second round pick. That's a nice core of youth and picks for Minnesota to build around. Cavs have 3 picks in rd 1 next year, I believe.

I would on to heat picks for the giggles. But that trade (yours) is more than fair. No way Boston or anyone else can offer 2 recent lottery picks plus two first roundersincluding the 1st overall. Heck if they want Thompson (insteadof Waiters) and Bennett you do that trade. you get Love back to play PF.

[mudyez]

Agree with OP, Wiggins and Lebron would be the most athletically gifted wing duo in NBA history. Do want.

Charlotte had J-Rich/G-force/Jax at one point!

j/k

[StrengthAndHonor]

No horse in this race, I simply want to watch these two for entertainment reasons.

[StrengthAndHonor]

:lol Thing is, the Cavs do not need to rush. Lebron knows it's a process, even said it in his statement. "It will take time". Love and his white ass can force Minny to trade him to Cleveland before the deadline or simply wait next season. Moving capspace and all is easy work in Cleveland's case, since they have TONS of assets in rookie pay scale. You don't give up on Wiggins especially with a great player like Lebron who can maximize his potential and make his transition a easier.
+1

[Malik Hairston]

Should trade Irving and keep Wiggins, tbh..

[StrengthAndHonor]

Should trade Irving and keep Wiggins, tbh..
This too...

[Alex's foreskin]

:lol

[LkrFan]

"No Wiggins for them Niggins!"
-- DMC

:lol

[jeebus]

Back when Harlem was fun like in his old school days...now he's back to starring in gay cuck pornos with lechoke.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Cavs are screwed either way but I'd rather have Wiggins in this series than Kevin Love in the sidelines.

[Killakobe81]

Cavs are screwed either way but I'd rather have Wiggins in this series than Kevin Love in the sidelines.

But the thing is as great as many of the moves James and his "team" have orchestrated behind the scenes this this SITE was almost unanimously against the trade of Wiggins for Love. They could have sent Bennett, Tristan thompson, Waiters and the Miami pick and one of the first they sent for Mozgoff. All else being equal even if they lose Kyrie, Love Verejao etc. having Another scorer would be huge. LeBron has shown he hasnt needed much but would Wiggins benefit from being a stand-up shooter as LeBron ball dominates is another question.

Like I have said all along talent will find itself to Cleveland there will be people who for the next few years will be happy to ride his coat-tails.

[ambchang]

Wiggins may be more important for defensive purpose than for offense. He hasn't really shown much this year on defense, but I felt it was mostly due to the system and what he's being asked to do. He has the athleticism, the length, and the instincts to be a great wing defender.

If he spent a year with the Cavs, and get to work under Blatt, he may have improved on defense enough that the Cavs can stick Wiggins on Curry or Thompson.

On offense, he is highly inefficient, but I doubt he'd be any worse than JR Smith.

[Killakobe81]

Wiggins may be more important for defensive purpose than for offense. He hasn't really shown much this year on defense, but I felt it was mostly due to the system and what he's being asked to do. He has the athleticism, the length, and the instincts to be a great wing defender.

If he spent a year with the Cavs, and get to work under Blatt, he may have improved on defense enough that the Cavs can stick Wiggins on Curry or Thompson.

On offense, he is highly inefficient, but I doubt he'd be any worse than JR Smith.

True but Cavs have defended well sans Wiggins. The biggest issue is late when they need someone, anyone to alleviate pressure from James no one can be counted on ...

[ambchang]

True but Cavs have defended well sans Wiggins. The biggest issue is late when they need someone, anyone to alleviate pressure from James no one can be counted on ...

The Cavs are gassed. Short bench with that style of play is not a good combination. They rely on hustle to contain the Warriors, but once they are tired, once they lose that split second in reaction and speed, the Warriors will shoot an open shot.

The Cavs aren't really defending overly well in the fourth quarter. GSW scored the most points in the 4th in 3 of the 5 games, and the other two games were Game 1 and Game 4 (blowout).

As for another creator, I don't think Wiggins can be that guy. JR Smith was supposed to be, but we all know what Smith is capable of. If Lebron had somebody on the caliber of Thompson on his squad, the Cavs would have already won this thing, which really speaks to how ridiculously good Lebron is.

[Killakobe81]

The Cavs are gassed. Short bench with that style of play is not a good combination. They rely on hustle to contain the Warriors, but once they are tired, once they lose that split second in reaction and speed, the Warriors will shoot an open shot.

The Cavs aren't really defending overly well in the fourth quarter. GSW scored the most points in the 4th in 3 of the 5 games, and the other two games were Game 1 and Game 4 (blowout).

As for another creator, I don't think Wiggins can be that guy. JR Smith was supposed to be, but we all know what Smith is capable of. If Lebron had somebody on the caliber of Thompson on his squad, the Cavs would have already won this thing, which really speaks to how ridiculously good Lebron is.

I agree they are gassed, even Lebron which is amazing he could hit the 3's he hit late because it was obvious he was exhausted. And yes the Cavs are being taxed by their short bench and no Wiggins is nnot a creator but Kyrie wasnt doing much of that either. he was scoring but even that he is better at than wiggins but wiggins could make them pay for doubling and is a better finisher than anyone the Cavs have. Just having someone else score even if they cannot create would help James a ton.But that is spilt milk ...what would you do if you were Blatt?

[DPG21920]

No one could have predicted Love being hurt. While he struggled to adapt, he was a net positive & no question would help vs GS. It's crazy to say but I definitely think GS loses if Kyrie & Love are healthy & no one cares about Wiggins then.

[ambchang]

I agree they are gassed, even Lebron which is amazing he could hit the 3's he hit late because it was obvious he was exhausted. And yes the Cavs are being taxed by their short bench and no Wiggins is nnot a creator but Kyrie wasnt doing much of that either. he was scoring but even that he is better at than wiggins but wiggins could make them pay for doubling and is a better finisher than anyone the Cavs have. Just having someone else score even if they cannot create would help James a ton.But that is spilt milk ...what would you do if you were Blatt?

Honestly, there is very little the Cavs can do now.

I'd say stick a man on Curry and run sort of a 1-3-1 half court pressure zone, let the other guys score 40 points each if it may, but use the zone to contain shooters and control the boards. It's a gimmicky thing, but it can work in short spurts, especially when the players are gassed in the 4th.

As much as people like to talk about the Warriors offense, Curry is still their only superstar level creator. Thompson can create, but he is inconsistent and game to game. Draymond Green is mostly a recipient, Iguodala used to be great, but he is no longer an elite level creator. Bogut has been (surprisingly for me) useless this series, and Barnes has been a monumental embarrassment in a couple of the key games. Bottle up Curry, and you have a chance.

On offense, Mozgov Lebron PnR should be every single play.

[davethedope]

Lebron should've know that he wasn't getting a full season and playoffs out of irving. Shame on him tbh.