Jordan Hill returning to the Lakers

[midnightpulp]

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No Lance now, Kool.

[Spurs9]

:lol9 million:lol

[mudyez]

9mio?

Did I miss something? Is that the Rasta Hill or is there someone else?

[spurraider21]

Kobe - 24.5
Nash - 9
Hill - 9
Lin - 8
Young - 5

thats 53 right there :lol

[midnightpulp]

:lol9 million:lol

That confirms they know Pau is outta there.

With the moves the Lakers have made today, and stretching Nash, they're already at 56 million in salary. That leaves 7 million and the exceptions.

[TheGoldStandard]

Words can't describe the ineptitude

[Splits]

And LG crashed again...

[Spurs9]

:lmao :lmao I can't get over this crazy overpaying. Meanwhile Spurs are paying max type players half price :lol

[midnightpulp]

Kobe - 24.5
Nash - 9
Hill - 9
Lin - 8
Young - 5

thats 53 right there :lol

And add in Randle's 2.5 rookie contract.

[Thread]

Outstanding news.

[midnightpulp]

And LG crashed again...

:lmao

This is the best FA day of all-time for a Spurs fan.

If we can get Gasol, the semen tsunami will be devastating.

[Splits]

Kobe - 24.5
Nash - 9
Hill - 9
Lin - 8
Young - 5

thats 53 right there :lol


So they must have renounced Pau? His cap hold was $20+m

[Clipper Nation]

:lol I can't decide whose offseason is funnier at this point - Miami's, Houston's, or the Lakers'....

[Thread]

So they must have renounced Pau? His cap hold was $20+m

Thank Christ.

[Clipper Nation]

Outstanding news.

$9 mil a year for Jordan Hill is "outstanding" to you? Christ, your standards are low.

tee, hee.

[Thread]

:lol I can't decide whose offseason is funnier at this point - Miami's, Houston's, or the Lakers'....

We can't all be Champion like you, CN.

[Splits]

Thank Christ.

Not really. You let him walk for nothing, could have raped Houston some more on a S&T.

[Robz4000]

:lmao

This is the best FA day of all-time for a Spurs fan.

If we can get Gasol, the semen tsunami will be devastating.

:cry Gasol pls :cry

[Chris]

LMAO FREDO

[Thread]

Not really. You let him walk for nothing, could have raped Houston some more on a S&T.

Obviously the Rockets didn't make that pitch.

[midnightpulp]

Thank Christ.

But you're giving Swaggy 5 million per year.

[Jodelo]

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

We can't all be Champion like you, CN.

True. Compared to Dean Lombardi and his Kings, these NBA teams look like piss-pot hacks. Christ almighty!

[Thread]

But you're giving Swaggy 5 million per year.

Oh, fuck. When was that announced?

[DJR210]

:lmao

[Thread]

True. Compared to Dean Lombardi and his Kings, these NBA teams look like piss-pot hacks. Christ almighty!

Don't be obtuse, asshole.

Watch...

The Bag stays in Texas.

[Clipper Nation]

Don't be obtuse, asshole.

Watch...

The Bag stays in Texas.
The Stanley Cup stays in Los Angeles.

[midnightpulp]

Oh, fuck. When was that announced?

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[DPG21920]

So no Melo to LA now. That's for damn sure. They had (without stretching Nash) 24M in cap space. They have 8M for Lin, 5M for Swaggy P & 9M for Hill. That's 22M. Even if they stretch Nash now, that only leaves 6-7M per year for Pau.

Seems the writing on the wall for Pau & Melo.

[Thread]

487712747010793472

4 years too. He'll be untenable now. He was the final asshole.

GIGO

[DPG21920]

So they must have renounced Pau? His cap hold was $20+m

They either had to sign him to a smaller deal or renounce him to allow for Lin trade. We know they didn't sign him with the other deals they announced, so they had to renounce Pau.

[Thread]

So no Melo to LA now. That's for damn sure. They had (without stretching Nash) 24M in cap space. They have 8M for Lin, 5M for Swaggy P & 9M for Hill. That's 22M. Even if they stretch Nash now, that only leaves 6-7M per year for Pau.

Seems the writing on the wall for Pau & Melo.

I'll believe it when Pau signs elsewhere.

[midnightpulp]

Jordan is now the best center they have and Swaggy is the best SF they have, so the Lakers starting lineup as of now:

C: Hill
PF: Randle
SF: Swaggy
SG: Kirby
PG: Nash/Lin (Nash will be in a suit by December)

Bench: Sacre, Clarkson, Marshall

And still no coach.

:lol

[Splits]

They either had to sign him to a smaller deal or renounce him to allow for Lin trade. We know they didn't sign him with the other deals they announced, so they had to renounce Pau.

NY can only offer 2/$7m. Only realistic chance he goes there was a S&T which isn't happening now.

[Buddy Mignon]

:lol I can't decide whose offseason is funnier at this point - Miami's, Houston's, or the Lakers'....


Yours... you still got a fucking slave master that refuses to emancipate your black ass...:lmao

[midnightpulp]

I'll believe it when Pau signs elsewhere.

It's impossible for him to stay, Cub. Lakers only got like 7 million left in cap space. No way he signs for that to stay on a lottery team.

[DPG21920]

NY can only offer 2/$7m. Only realistic chance he goes there was a S&T which isn't happening now.

Yup. So the only real options are CHI/OKC/MIA/SA.

[benefactor]

Could have been worse for LA, tbh. They could have thrown a bunch of cash at Stevenson.

[DPG21920]

It's impossible for him to stay, Cub. Lakers only got like 7 million left in cap space. No way he signs for that to stay on a lottery team.

Lakers only have 2M in cap space.

[midnightpulp]

Lakers only have 2M in cap space.

Even by stretching Nash?

[Splits]

Yup. So the only real options are CHI/OKC/MIA/SA.

HOU and MIA can pay him more than MLE, so they are probably the frontrunners.

[Thread]

It's impossible for him to stay, Cub. Lakers only got like 7 million left in cap space. No way he signs for that to stay on a lottery team.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Mel_13]

Kobe's gonna score a lot of points this season.

Not gonna win too many games, but lots and lots of points.

[DPG21920]

HOU and MIA can pay him more than MLE, so they are probably the frontrunners.

I highly, highly doubt HOU tries to pair Pau with Dwight again. Not only that, it would require Pau choosing them in the next 2 days and signing. They have to move fast with that Parsons sheet if they are going to match.

[Thread]

Kobe's gonna score a lot of points this season.

Not gonna win too many games, but lots and lots of points.

Yep, he's gonna take off after Kareem and have the old lady fire up the calculator.

[DPG21920]

Even by stretching Nash?

If they stretch Nash, they can have around 6-7M, but they have not indicated they are doing that yet.

[Splits]

I highly, highly doubt HOU tries to pair Pau with Dwight again. Not only that, it would require Pau choosing them in the next 2 days and signing. They have to move fast with that Parsons sheet if they are going to match.

I would be surprised if they don't try. And Pau will decide tonight:

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[midnightpulp]

If they stretch Nash, they can have around 6-7M, but they have not indicated they are doing that yet.

Yeah, I was pretty much thinking it's a foregone conclusion they do it.

[DPG21920]

I would be surprised if they don't try. And Pau will decide tonight:

487701408788283393

He didn't say tonight tbh..just said soon.

[midnightpulp]

Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to www.lakersground.net

Try reloading: www.*lakersground.*net

:lmao

[Thread]

I would be surprised if they don't try. And Pau will decide tonight:

487701408788283393

Oh, Lord. That SOB, goofy bastard.

[DPG21920]

I mean, ok, let's put HOU in the mix. Only HOU/CHI/MIA can offer more many than SA. OKC* could as well, but most likely not. If we can avoid HOU, PAU to MIA is a little better chance. Still a long shot though.

[Thread]

I mean, ok, let's put HOU in the mix. Only HOU/CHI/MIA can offer more many than SA. OKC* could as well, but most likely not. If we can avoid HOU, PAU to MIA is a little better chance. Still a long shot though.

Why would anyone aside from the Spurs want him? At first blush he's absolutely useless outside of San Antonio.

[midnightpulp]

It's official now, Cub:

487727989933998080

[Splits]

I mean, ok, let's put HOU in the mix. Only HOU/CHI/MIA can offer more many than SA. OKC* could as well, but most likely not. If we can avoid HOU, PAU to MIA is a little better chance. Still a long shot though.

CHI can't do anything other than MLE unless they amnesty Boozer, which I doubt they will considering Rheisdouche is a cheap SOB.

[Splits]

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http://forums.lakersground.net/templates/uberSTYLE/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=5905523#5905523)Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:51 pm Post subject:






Striking out on Melo was predictable and not entirely indefensible.

But spending your salary cap for the next two years on two guys WHO DIDN'T EVEN START ON THE WORST TEAM IN LAKER HISTORY?

This front office is (bleep) stupid. i will never consinder an argument otherwise.

PG: Lin
SG: Young
SF: Kobe
PF: Randle
C: Hill

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What's Lakers? plan here? Make Kobe shoot himself so we can bottom into a top 5 pick? That is the worst roster construction I've ever seen in my 20+ years of fandom. THIS IS JIM BUSS. It's not the guy who was the assistant to the traveling secretary during the last repeat ("His fingerprints are all over those titles!!!!) or the guy who almost got us Chris Paul. THIS is him. The guy who just bought that roster for the next. Two. Years.

EL. EM. AYE. OH.

[midnightpulp]

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http://forums.lakersground.net/templates/uberSTYLE/images/icon_minipost.gif (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=5905523#5905523)Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:51 pm Post subject:






Striking out on Melo was predictable and not entirely indefensible.

But spending your salary cap for the next two years on two guys WHO DIDN'T EVEN START ON THE WORST TEAM IN LAKER HISTORY?

This front office is (bleep) stupid. i will never consinder an argument otherwise.

PG: Lin
SG: Young
SF: Kobe
PF: Randle
C: Hill

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What's Lakers? plan here? Make Kobe shoot himself so we can bottom into a top 5 pick? That is the worst roster construction I've ever seen in my 20+ years of fandom. THIS IS JIM BUSS. It's not the guy who was the assistant to the traveling secretary during the last repeat ("His fingerprints are all over those titles!!!!) or the guy who almost got us Chris Paul. THIS is him. The guy who just bought that roster for the next. Two. Years.

EL. EM. AYE. OH.






:lmao

When the site speeds up, we're definitely starting a LOL at Lakersground: Free Agency Edition thread tonight.

[Splits]

:lmao

When the site speeds up, we're definitely starting a LOL at Lakersground: Free Agency Edition thread tonight.

Going to have to dust off CrackerJax for this one...

[midnightpulp]

Going to have to dust off CrackerJax for this one...

Please do. Also, how do you embed LG posts in their original form on here?

[Buddy Mignon]

:lmao

When the site speeds up, we're definitely starting a LOL at Lakersground: Free Agency Edition thread tonight.


Its so much faggotry going on over there.

[Splits]

Please do. Also, how do you embed LG posts in their original form on here?

I just copy/paste using Chrome

[Clipper Nation]

It's official now, Cub:

487727989933998080

Christ! No loyalty to the alpha of two NBA Titles.

Without MVPau, they're light two.

[Thread]

Christ! No loyalty to the alpha of two NBA Titles.

Without MVPau, they're light two.

"With Kobe in it."

[DPG21920]

CHI can't do anything other than MLE unless they amnesty Boozer, which I doubt they will considering Rheisdouche is a cheap SOB.

I get that. I agree. I'm just listing some options that have been discussed.

Using assumptions, the only teams that IMO would offer Pau more than MLE are MIA/HOU. I think HOU won't do anything with Pau, but even if they do, it's 2 teams which is good for SA. That leaves CHI/SA/OKC for MLE level money.

MIA is the concern. If we are to believe that HOU won't go after Gasol because the Dwight pairing was awful and CHI won't amnesty Boozer for Pau, then it's one team (MIA) who can offer more.

[DPG21920]

By a "2 year/10M+" do they mean 20M total or, 5M per year???

[Splits]

I get that. I agree. I'm just listing some options that have been discussed.

Using assumptions, the only teams that IMO would offer Pau more than MLE are MIA/HOU. I think HOU won't do anything with Pau, but even if they do, it's 2 teams which is good for SA. That leaves CHI/SA/OKC for MLE level money.

MIA is the concern. If we are to believe that HOU won't go after Gasol because the Dwight pairing was awful and CHI won't amnesty Boozer for Pau, then it's one team (MIA) who can offer more.

Yup. And he just turned down 2/$20 from the Lakers, so like I said MIA or HOU.

[baseline bum]

Jordan Hill, $9 million a fucking year? I wouldn't have paid that piece of shit MLE. Holy fuck, Kupchack handing out one of the stupidest contracts I have ever seen in my life.

[baseline bum]

Yup. And he just turned down 2/$20 from the Lakers, so like I said MIA or HOU.

Gotta be Miami. No way he's going to go play with Bible Kemp again. I'm rooting for him to go to the Heat so James doesn't get a free trip to the Finals. A Heat-Cavs ECF would be epic.

[midnightpulp]

Jordan Hill, $9 million a fucking year? I wouldn't have paid that piece of shit MLE. Holy fuck, Kupchack handing out one of the stupidest contracts I have ever seen in my life.

:lol

[baseline bum]

Jordan Hill $9 million
Tim Duncan $10 million

:lmao

[JamStone]

Contract makes no sense because very unlikely any other team would consider giving Hill anywhere close to $9M per... but then again there have been plenty of boneheaded contracts being given out so I guess it's possible. The only thing I can think of to even remotely justify that type of money to Hill is Kupchak doesn't anticipated any other significant signings and he needs to get the payroll to the salary floor.

[midnightpulp]

Gotta be Miami. No way he's going to go play with Bible Kemp again. I'm rooting for him to go to the Heat so James doesn't get a free trip to the Finals. A Heat-Cavs ECF would be epic.

I want Pau as an insurance policy against Duncan injury/bad year. For the last 3 seasons, I always fear it's going to be the one where the "wheels fall off."

And if Duncan retires this year, Pau is about the best Duncan replacement you can ask for.

[baseline bum]

I want Pau as an insurance policy against Duncan injury/bad year. For the last 3 seasons, I always fear it's going to be the one where the "wheels fall off."

And if Duncan retires this year, Pau is about the best Duncan replacement you can ask for.

Gasol isn't coming for $5 million a year.

[Splits]

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[midnightpulp]

487731156222087168

How much can the Bulls offer?

[Splits]

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[Splits]

How much can the Bulls offer?

MLE, same as Spurs

[DPG21920]

Gasol isn't coming for $5 million a year.

If reports are true and MIA is going after Deng, they won't have more than 5M to offer Pau.

[midnightpulp]

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http://lindsaysnyder.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/man-praying-dark.jpg

[IrisHockey]

glad I got in on Spurs at 7/1 to repeat right before free agency

[Thread]

If reports are true and MIA is going after Deng, they won't have more than 5M to offer Pau.

Why anyone would give a dime to Deng is beyond me. He's a dog.

[Nathan89]

I doubt bulls amnestying Boozer for Pau. Looks good. If money was an issue Spurs would be out of the consideration already imo

[midnightpulp]

MLE, same as Spurs

We got this.

Euro style offense. Pop. The whole Latino connection with Manu and Splitter. San Antonio being a hispanic town. And the best opportunity to win a championship, which is Pau's main motivation from his words.

Thibs will run him into the ground over there.

[manufan10]

A source close to Pau is saying that Gasol is down to Bulls and Spurs
487729538676166656 But take it with a grain of salt, for now.

[DPG21920]

So for Melo to go to CHI, then they either have to amnesty Boozer to make room. If they do that no Pau. Or they can S&T and still keep MLE.

It seems really unlikely that they amnesty Boozer and pay 16M (Boozer's money or less if someone claims him) + whatever for Pau.

So it's MLE vs MLE at that point no matter what.

[IrisHockey]

Why anyone would give a dime to Deng is beyond me. He's a dog.

ding ding ding ding ding

[manufan10]

487728927528349696

Beat me to it. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The one thing that'll top this day off right is MVPau signing with Shitcago and triggering an epic meltdown upstairs....

[Splits]

We got this.

Euro style offense. Pop. The whole Latino connection with Manu and Splitter. San Antonio being a hispanic town. And the best opportunity to win a championship, which is Pau's main motivation from his words.

Thibs will run him into the ground over there.

As DPG says above, technically the Bulls can offer him more money if they amnesty Boozer, but that is highly doubtful.

[baseline bum]

So for Melo to go to CHI, then they either have to amnesty Boozer to make room. If they do that no Pau. Or they can S&T and still keep MLE.

It seems really unlikely that they amnesty Boozer and pay 16M (Boozer's money or less if someone claims him) + whatever for Pau.

So it's MLE vs MLE at that point no matter what.

Holy fuck, you're right.

[Splits]

So for Melo to go to CHI, then they either have to amnesty Boozer to make room. If they do that no Pau. Or they can S&T and still keep MLE.

It seems really unlikely that they amnesty Boozer and pay 16M (Boozer's money or less if someone claims him) + whatever for Pau.

So it's MLE vs MLE at that point no matter what.

S&T has to be off the table now since Lakers must have renounced him to sign Lin/Swaggy/Hill

[midnightpulp]

:lol The one thing that'll top this day off right is MVPau signing with Shitcago and triggering an epic meltdown upstairs....

C'mon, man. MVPau possibly gets a ring sans Kobe, who will be representing the Lakers at the lottery while Pau is heading into the Finals.

Think big picture! :lol

[manufan10]

Oh crap:
487734144147787776

[Splits]

Oh crap:
487734144147787776

How is a S&T possible at this point? Lakers have no cap room and they must have renounced his rights to do all their other shithole signings...

[Nathan89]

MVPau about to make the Spurs even more dominant. Extending are contending status for another 4yrs.

NBA:lmao

[RsxPiimp]

$ 9 mil/2 yrs ain't that bad. He's very good player when healthy. Fucking Nick Young however :lol I can't believe they paid him that much

[Nathan89]

Pau needs his own thread tbh not this one.

[manufan10]

How is a S&T possible at this point? Lakers have no cap room and they must have renounced his rights to do all their other shithole signings...

Others are saying a S&T involving Pau and Boozer. Not sure if that's possible or not.

[DPG21920]

$ 9 mil/2 yrs ain't that bad. He's very good player when healthy. Fucking Nick Young however :lol I can't believe they paid him that much

It's 18M/2 years

[RsxPiimp]

It's 18M/2 years

Yeash, sorry I mean $9mil/yr.

[Malik Hairston]

Hill is one of the most overrated players in the league, tbh..

Typical Laker that becomes overrated, like many before him..

[Koolaid_Man]

$ 9 mil/2 yrs ain't that bad. He's very good player when healthy. Fucking Nick Young however :lol I can't believe they paid him that much

that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll

[DPG21920]

How is a S&T possible at this point? Lakers have no cap room and they must have renounced his rights to do all their other shithole signings...

You can still S&T a renounced player:


There is a rule that allows teams to re-sign their own free agents for trading purposes, called the sign-and-trade rule. Under this rule the player is re-signed and immediately traded to another team. This is done by adding a clause to the contract stipulating that the contract is null and void if the trade to the specific team is not completed within 48 hours. To qualify for a sign-and-trade, all of the following must be true:

The player must re-sign with his prior team -- a team cannot include another team's free agent in a sign-and-trade.
The player must finish the preceding season with that team (deals are no longer allowed that sign-and-trade players who are out of the league, such as the sign-and-trade that sent Keith Van Horn from Dallas to New Jersey as part of the Jason Kidd trade in 2008).
The player cannot be a restricted free agent who has signed an offer sheet with another team (see question number 44).
Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade1, 2. A team above the apron can receive a player in a sign-and-trade if the trade reduces the team's payroll and the team finishes the trade below the apron.
Starting in 2013-14, the team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25) that season.1
The trade must be completed prior to the first game of the regular season (sign-and-trades are not allowed once the season begins).
The player cannot be signed using the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, or any exception that cannot be used to offer a three-year contract (see question number 25).
A sign-and-trade deal can be made with a free agent who has been renounced, as long as all the above criteria are met. Sign-and-trade contracts must be for at least three seasons (not including any option year) and no longer than four seasons. The first year of the contract must be fully guaranteed, but the remaining seasons can be non-guaranteed. The combination of a three-year minimum with a one-year guarantee ensures that the player's new team cannot acquire the player's Bird rights any sooner than if they had signed him directly (if they wanted to re-sign him in less than three years they would first have to waive him, and lose any Bird rights -- see question number 33).

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q91

[RsxPiimp]

that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll
They don't have a lot of options. I don't know if I want Lance for $15 mil tho. It seems like that's his asking pricer considering how much $$$ Parsons, Hayward are getting.

[Koolaid_Man]

Hill is one of the most overrated players in the league, tbh..

Typical Laker that becomes overrated, like many before him..


He's just lazy that's all....hopefully Kobe lights a fire in him..shitty starting 5 and shitty bench....but I'm at peace with it

[Thread]

that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll

Lance is a headache we don't have to brook. Ariza has been on the back burner for 5 years. It's too late.

[Banzai]

How much was Puke Walton offered?

[ElNono]

Jordan Hill after carrying Kirby to Randle

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SGy6jIXdDDw/RxNE4fNFg8I/AAAAAAAAAIg/Z8YoqKzbPxE/s320/Els20Aug05.jpg

[Malik Hairston]

He's just lazy that's all....hopefully Kobe lights a fire in him..shitty starting 5 and shitty bench....but I'm at peace with it

The Lakers will be all about Kobe chasing records the next few seasons, which is fine, he has earned it, tbh..

[Thread]

Jordan Hill after carrying Kirby to Randle

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SGy6jIXdDDw/RxNE4fNFg8I/AAAAAAAAAIg/Z8YoqKzbPxE/s320/Els20Aug05.jpg

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[DPG21920]

that is bad..they could have gotten him for half that and signed Lance or Ariza both of whom I wanted along with Lin....Swaggy P could have been had for 4 yrs / 15 million...Mitch may not be so smart after all.

Lance and Ariza would be a perfect balance right now....and then throw the vet min at Jermain Oneal and we roll

No, they couldn't have (only shot would be if the stretched Nash or traded with no salary back). They had 24M in cap space with no stretch of Nash before all the moves. They would have about 28M after the stretch. If they did everything the same but gave Hill 4.5M in stead they have:

8M Lin / 4.5M Hill / 5M Swaggy P = 17.5M. Without stretching Nash, that leaves 6.5M left. Doubtful that Lance or Ariza sign for that much. If they stretched Nash, then it's possible.

[Koolaid_Man]

They don't have a lot of options. I don't know if I want Lance for $15 mil tho. It seems like that's his asking pricer considering how much $$$ Parsons, Hayward are getting.

Lance proved he can gaurd and defend both Wade and Lebron and still put up big numbers he deserved it more than Parsons tbh..Lance would give the West conference all sorts of hell with his balance of skills and fearlessness.... epic fail on Mitch part...and doubly for not getting a good shooter in Ariza to compliment that scenario

[Thread]

The Lakers will be all about Kobe chasing records the next few seasons, which is fine, he has earned it, tbh..

Har, sporting his sore head after James went up North on him.

tee, hee.

[baseline bum]

From upstairs

487735367001329664

[midnightpulp]

You can still S&T a renounced player:



http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q91

Won't taking on Boozer's salary put them over the cap?

[Koolaid_Man]

No, they couldn't have (only shot would be if the stretched Nash or traded with no salary back). They had 24M in cap space with no stretch of Nash before all the moves. They would have about 28M after the stretch. If they did everything the same but gave Hill 4.5M in stead they have:

8M Lin / 4.5M Hill / 5M Swaggy P = 17.5M. Without stretching Nash, that leaves 6.5M left. Doubtful that Lance or Ariza sign for that much. If they stretched Nash, then it's possible.

Thanks for spelling it out but I'm still right....it's up to mgmt to make the right moves to make it happen and they could have had both players as I mentioned

[midnightpulp]

From upstairs

487735367001329664

:bang

Some dipshit GM will take on Nash for a 2nd rounder or something.

[Banzai]

So unless the Lakers release Nash..all signs point to Pau in SA?

[024]

I think Jordan Hill's second year is a team option, which makes wayyyy more sense. Lakers just filling their roster with one year deals like they did last year.

[Koolaid_Man]

So unless the Lakers release Nash..all signs point to Pau in SA?

Yes Pau wants to go to SA because he doesn't want to have to work for shit...he expects it to be a cake walk....besides it's much easier to get dick from another 7 footer already on your team...

[midnightpulp]

So unless the Lakers release Nash..all signs point to Pau in SA?

They can't release him. They have to find a willing trade suitor and can't take back salary.

Gonna have to be Nash for pick(s).

[Koolaid_Man]

I think Jordan Hill's second year is a team option, which makes wayyyy more sense. Lakers just filling their roster with one year deals like they did last year.

yep but still too much could have shaved off 5 mill he's a scrub he would have taken it....

[RsxPiimp]

Lance proved he can gaurd and defend both Wade and Lebron and still put up big numbers he deserved it more than Parsons tbh..Lance would give the West conference all sorts of hell with his balance of skills and fearlessness.... epic fail on Mitch part...and doubly for not getting a good shooter in Ariza to compliment that scenario

Off season doesn't look good thats for sure, Lin, Hill, Young and maybe Henry I think thats pretty much it for us :lmao

[RsxPiimp]

I think Jordan Hill's second year is a team option, which makes wayyyy more sense. Lakers just filling their roster with one year deals like they did last year.

Ahh, much better, given his health.

[Chris]

Pau going to San Antonio would be priceless smfh :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Off season doesn't look good thats for sure, Lin, Hill, Young and maybe Henry I think thats pretty much it for us :lmao

Kobe better dip into the gene pool or talk to the German doctors on more secret doping tricks or else it's gonna be a sad final 2 yrs

[Koolaid_Man]

Pau going to San Antonio would be priceless smfh :lol


He's going and then Kobe will unfriend him...Kobe never liked him really...it always seemed like he was faking with Pau anyway

[ElNono]

Nobody wants to go play there while The Contract is around, tbh... hard to think they couldn't interest Melo or Love... now they're basically trying to get the band back together for another run at the lottery...

[RsxPiimp]

Kobe better dip into the gene pool or talk to the German doctors on more secret doping tricks or else it's gonna be a sad final 2 yrs

word

[Thread]

Nobody wants to go play there while The Contract is around, tbh... hard to think they couldn't interest Melo or Love... now they're basically trying to get the band back together for another run at the lottery...

They lucked out on Melo staying away.

[Clipper Nation]

They lucked out on Melo staying away.

48.5

[Chris]

He's going and then Kobe will unfriend him...Kobe never liked him really...it always seemed like he was faking with Pau anyway

He will be embraced here among our hispanic community. Jersey sales will go through the roof tbh

[Thread]

48.5

"With Kobe in it."

[jeebus]

Chicago is definitely rolling out the welcome mat for MVPaussy tbh

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-07-07/news/chi-fourth-of-july-toll-82-shot-14-of-them-fatally-in-chicago-20140707_1_south-chicago-east-garfield-park-west-englewood

[Thread]

Chicago is definitely rolling out the welcome mat for MVPaussy tbh

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-07-07/news/chi-fourth-of-july-toll-82-shot-14-of-them-fatally-in-chicago-20140707_1_south-chicago-east-garfield-park-west-englewood

Why would they even want him, he can't move.

[Koolaid_Man]

They lucked out on Melo staying away.

I wanted Melo to give Kobe a punchers chance....but alas.....Melo will go down in history with CP0 as having no rings....watch the look on his face in 2 more yrs when he realizes ohhh shit I'm fucked with no rings....the fact that he can't even make up his mind even today and let Lebron upstage him like that proves he's a loser....Melo looks like he has a drinking problem if he wanted to he could have been just as good as Lebron...but Melo didn't want it

[RsxPiimp]

Koolaid_Man, how do you feel about Lebron now?

[Chris]

Why would they even want him, he can't move.

He's going to love playing 20 minutes a night, and cashing in on another paycheck with a bonus ring at the end of the year.

[midnightpulp]

Still don't know how the S&T with Chicago is going to work.

With Nash's salary off the books, the Lakers will be at 48.3 million in payroll. Boozer will make 16.5 million next year.

Does Randle's rookie contract count against the cap? Or does it function like a minimum salary exception? If it does, then they can make it work.

[Koolaid_Man]

Why would they even want him, he can't move.

yep his knees are shot....but if he can stay healthy don't get mad when he's playing much better....but wouldn't do it for us...lol - shit seems to work out that way sometimes

[Thread]

He's going to love playing 20 minutes a night, and cashing in on another paycheck with a bonus ring at the end of the year.

He's made for you, but, only you.

[Chris]

He's made for you, but, only you.

After The Collusion, this will suffice.

[Koolaid_Man]

I will say though Cully I'm huge on Jeremy Lin....he gets into the lane and the paint like Tony Parker...he can't finish like Parker but he scores and he's a better defender shooter and defender than Parker....if Mitch was smart he would have went after an Ariza type player than can shoot the 3 and defend...but as for Lin he's going to be awesome..I have good feelings in my gut about this kid

[Thread]

After The Collusion, this will suffice.

You've nary other choice.

[midnightpulp]

Also worth noting is that getting Pau takes Chicago out of the Melo sweepstakes.

[jeebus]

Why would they even want him, he can't move.
Cuz Thibs wants to play him 42 minutes a night. Wait....

[Thread]

Cuz Thibs wants to play him 42 minutes a night. Wait....

So he doesn't move for half that. He still can't move.

[jeebus]

So he doesn't move for half that. He still can't move.
I know. I was joshing you. It doesn't make sense for him to go to Chicago.

[Banzai]

I'm pretty sure by tomorrow or the end of this weekend...Pau will choose the Spurs tbh

[jeebus]

I'm pretty sure by tomorrow or the end of this weekend...Pau will choose the Spurs tbh
Wouldn't surprise me. I don't think LA can do any sign and trades at this point.

[Banzai]

Wouldn't surprise me. I don't think LA can do any sign and trades at this point.
From what I've read any S&T is pretty much dead at this point so it seems likely he's heading to the alamo tbh

[Venti Quattro]

Good move from the Lakers basketball-wise. Financially, there are questions marks all over this.

[djohn2oo8]

goddamn 9 mil a year?

[jeebus]

From what I've read any S&T is pretty much dead at this point so it seems likely he's heading to the alamo tbh
Plus if he's looking for diversity, can't get much more diverse than the Spurms and the be@ners here.

[Koolaid_Man]

goddamn 9 mil a year?

but we got Lin for free

[Venti Quattro]

goddamn 9 mil a year?

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs43/i/2009/083/7/f/Shitting_RAINBOWS_by_Echemythia.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

but we got Lin for free
He is THAT bad.

[RsxPiimp]

goddamn 9 mil a year?

It's still not as bad with a team option. Remember, this offseason is crazy.

Frye with $8 million is a good example. Meeks, Hayward etc.

[Thread]

He is THAT bad.

How would you know, you only had eyes for Beverley because he Gilhoolied Westbrook. Weak shit, dj.

[djohn2oo8]

How would you know, you only had eyes for Beverley because he Gilhoolied Westbrook. Weak shit, dj.
No, Lin couldn't function at the slightest double team you old fart.

[Thread]

No, Lin couldn't function at the slightest double team you old fart.

No. You fell in love with goon and had to see it thru to the bitter end. And that end is still dropping.

[djohn2oo8]

No. You fell in love with goon and had to see it thru to the bitter end. And that end is still dropping.
You'll see. And I'll be right.

[Thread]

You'll see. And I'll be right.

And if I'm right I don't want any fancy dancing around it. I want you to admit you're wrong and live with it. Christ.

[Mark in Austin]

:dizzy So Jordan Hill is going to make the same amount as Splitter? Fredo strikes again.

[Darkwaters]

So no Melo to LA now. That's for damn sure. They had (without stretching Nash) 24M in cap space. They have 8M for Lin, 5M for Swaggy P & 9M for Hill. That's 22M. Even if they stretch Nash now, that only leaves 6-7M per year for Pau.

Seems the writing on the wall for Pau & Melo.

I thought Lin was getting just under 15 for next year. You know, the poison pill?

[moisaenz]

i guess lin asked for a trade after the whole carmelo jersey incident.

[TheGoldStandard]

I thought Lin was getting just under 15 for next year. You know, the poison pill?

Yes but only 8 and change count against the cap

[spurraider21]

Oh crap:
487734144147787776


How is a S&T possible at this point? Lakers have no cap room and they must have renounced his rights to do all their other shithole signings...
:lmao expecting a woman to understand the salary cap

[spurraider21]

I thought Lin was getting just under 15 for next year. You know, the poison pill?
its 15 mil out of their pockets, 8 mil against the cap

[Darkwaters]

Yes but only 8 and change count against the cap

Got it. Missed that part.

[ElNono]

Frye with $8 million is a good example. Meeks, Hayward etc.

what are you saying? the Lakeshow are the new Magic or Pistons? Shit teams have to overpay to get talent, I just can't believe Hill at $9m was a target.

[RsxPiimp]

what are you saying? the Lakeshow are the new Magic or Pistons? Shit teams have to overpay to get talent, I just can't believe Hill at $9m was a target.

They are going to be bad until Kobe;s contract is off the books. No major FA wants to be a part of this mess, so in a way, Yes, the Lakers are in the same tier as those franchise.

[LkrFan]

:dizzy So Jordan Hill is going to make the same amount as Splitter? Fredo strikes again.

1) Bigs get paid. Injury proneness aside, Jordan is serviceable.
2) Tiago Shitter at ~$9M is a poison pill for a backup big.
3) Without Diaw, Kang is still in South Beach and Tammy shining shoes
4) I don't think the 2nd year of Jordan's contract is guaranteed.
5) Shitter is a scrub. Yet Pop paid him millions. Where's the outrage with det?

[Clipper Nation]

1) Bigs get paid. Injury proneness aside, Jordan is serviceable.
2) Tiago Shitter at ~$9M is a poison pill for a backup big.
3) Without Diaw, Kang is still in South Beach and Tammy shining shoes
4) I don't think the 2nd year of Jordan's contract is guaranteed.
5) Shitter is a scrub. Yet Pop paid him millions. Where's the outrage with det?

I'm surprised to see you hating on your fellow illegal immigrant (Splitter), Alfonso :lol

[LkrFan]

I'm surprised to see you hating on your fellow illegal immigrant (Splitter), Alfonso :lol

:lol - it's just like how you hate the North Koreans s:loln

[Sportstudi]

Jordan is now the best center they have and Swaggy is the best SF they have, so the Lakers starting lineup as of now:

C: Hill
PF: Randle
SF: Swaggy
SG: Kirby
PG: Nash/Lin (Nash will be in a suit by December)

Bench: Sacre, Clarkson, Marshall

And still no coach.

:lol

:lmao

[Sportstudi]

Kobe's gonna score a lot of points this season.

Not gonna win too many games, but lots and lots of points.

Wait for Kobe homers to spin this as a "proof" that Kobe is still the best SG and a top 5 player in the league. The other teams will just let Kobe get his, don't even bother with someone whose goal is stockpiling points, shut down all the other players and take the win. And the win is all that matters. But over there at Kobeground they will be too dumb to understand it.

[Thread]

Wait for Kobe homers to spin this as a "proof" that Kobe is still the best SG and a top 5 player in the league. The other teams will just let Kobe get his, don't even bother with someone whose goal is stockpiling points, shut down all the other players and take the win. And the win is all that matters. But over there at Kobeground they will be too dumb to understand it.

:rolleyes

[Killakobe81]

Jordan is now the best center they have and Swaggy is the best SF they have, so the Lakers starting lineup as of now:

C: Hill
PF: Randle
SF: Swaggy
SG: Kirby
PG: Nash/Lin (Nash will be in a suit by December)

Bench: Sacre, Clarkson, Marshall

And still no coach.

:lol

With the first pick in the 2015 NBA draft the Lakers select ...

[midnightpulp]

1) Bigs get paid. Injury proneness aside, Jordan is serviceable.
2) Tiago Shitter at ~$9M is a poison pill for a backup big.
3) Without Diaw, Kang is still in South Beach and Tammy shining shoes
4) I don't think the 2nd year of Jordan's contract is guaranteed.
5) Shitter is a scrub. Yet Pop paid him millions. Where's the outrage with det?

Splitter isn't a scrub.

[Thread]

Splitter isn't a scrub.

Midst, "you" called him everything but a white man when I was singing his praises.

[midnightpulp]

Midst, "you" called him everything but a white man when I was singing his praises.

I never did. Never.

I use to rail against Pop for playing that sack of shit of Bonner over him in 2011-12.

[Thread]

I never did. Never.

I use to rail against Pop for playing that sack of shit of Bonner over him in 2011-12.

I believe you're selling me a bill of goods, but, I ain't got the patience to go back in the stacks to locate the proof.

[100%duncan]

9 million. Wow.

[midnightpulp]

I believe you're selling me a bill of goods, but, I ain't got the patience to go back in the stacks to locate the proof.

Nope. But you made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.

I use to have a Splitter signature once-upon-a-time.

[LkrFan]

Splitter isn't a scrub.

Against the likes of defensive stalwarts like Bosh Spice and Turdman:

6.2ppg (S)
3.4rpg (C)
:lol.6bpg (R)
1.8fpg (U)
1.2tpg (B)
16.58PER (!)
$9.25M (!)

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[midnightpulp]

Against the likes of defensive stalwarts like Bosh Spice and Turdman:

6.2ppg (S)
3.4rpg (C)
:lol.6bpg (R)
1.8fpg (U)
1.2tpg (B)
16.58PER (!)
$9.25M (!)

:rollin :lmao :rollin

Best big man defensive rating on the team in the Finals. Splitter is a great PnR defender and a tough man defender, holding you best big man in the game Fat Gasol to a .397 shooting percentage in the 2013 WCF.

He serves a key role on the Spurs. You wouldn't know that because of your box score watching, though.

[LkrFan]

Best big man defensive rating on the team in the Finals. Splitter is a great PnR defender and a tough man defender, holding you best big man in the game Fat Gasol to a .397 shooting percentage in the 2013 WCF.

He serves a key role on the Spurs. You wouldn't know that because of your box score watching, though.
Going back to last year to muster up something good to say, eh? :lol My numbers are from a few weeks ag:lol
Not too hard to play decent for 17mpg :lol

Small Market. $9.25M r:lolle player. :lmao

Meanwhile his replacement parlayed his good play into improbable beatdown of the cHeat. AND a new contract. Not $7M, Not $8M, Not $9M th:lolugh like Shitter :lmao

I'll be boxscore watching again - despite being back in the states - because we'll suck ass again. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Going back to last year to muster up something good to say, eh? :lol My numbers are from a few weeks ag:lol
Not too hard to play decent for 17mpg :lol

Small Market. $9.25M r:lolle player. :lmao

Meanwhile his replacement parlayed his good play into improbable beatdown of the cHeat. AND a new contract. Not $7M, Not $8M, Not $9M th:lolugh like Shitter :lmao

I'll be boxscore watching again - despite being back in the states - because we'll suck ass again. :lol

That doesn't sound like a very devoted fan. You should watch Kirby play out his last days.

[Clipper Nation]

I'll be boxscore watching again - despite being back in the states - because we'll suck ass again. :lol

How do you say "fairweather fan" in Spanish? :lol

[Bynumite]

With today's lack of legit bigs with legit post moves, Splitter is just a big body you can throw at today's soft jump shooting bigs and get solid results at the defensive end and that's about it.

Reminds me of Kwame tbh, big body, played decent defense but a complete scrub at every other facet of the game.

[LkrFan]

That doesn't sound like a very devoted fan. You should watch Kirby play out his last days.

Not gonna spend my hard earned cash on that shit roster. Kobe fucked the Lakers up with The Extension!. I say fuck seeing his last days every night. I got TNT, BSPN, and ABC. If they show the Lakers, I'll watch. If not, fuck 'em. We're in this shit storm because of Fredo and KobePERI:lolD. They're getting their money anyways. :lol

[LkrFan]

How do you say "fairweather fan" in Spanish? :lol

N:lolpe! Bu$ine$$ decision s:loln

It's enough I'm getting DirecTV to watch Rom:lol 16 times. :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

N:lolpe! Bu$ine$$ decision s:loln

Let me guess, it's back to the Pacers bandwagon for you this year? :lol

[LkrFan]

Let me guess, it's back to the Pacers bandwagon for you this year? :lol

Bulls if they get MVPAU tbh. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Bulls if they get MVPAU tbh. :lol

^ Proof positive that you're a Post-Pau "Lakerfan"PERIOD

[LkrFan]

^ Proof positive that you're a Post-Pau "Lakerfan"PERIOD

No. Just because I wasn't on ST, doesn't mean your schtick has any merit, other than being funny. :lol

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Reminds me of Kwame tbh, big body, played decent defense but a complete scrub at every other facet of the game.

That's because we never saw "every other facet of the game" until Phil insisted beyond all reason.