View Full Version : Suns: Isaiah Thomas???? 4 years, $27 million
baseline bum
07-11-2014, 05:39 PM
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So I guess the Rockets made a run at Bledsoe and Phoenix isn't willing to match?
Franklin
07-11-2014, 07:24 PM
Money well spent imho, dude's gonna be a top5 PG in the league within a few years imho.
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07-11-2014, 07:25 PM
Money well spent imho, dude's gonna be a top5 PG in the league within a few years imho.
& I'm 25 years old.
TheGoldStandard
07-11-2014, 07:26 PM
Thats a lot of money for a one way player who's small
midnightpulp
07-11-2014, 07:26 PM
& I'm 25 years old.
Are they pumping him up over in PHX yet?
Xylus
07-11-2014, 07:28 PM
Are they pumping him up over in PHX yet?
Radio guys are killing the move, saying we overpaid. Pretty much everyone else thinks it's a great bargain for him.
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07-11-2014, 07:31 PM
Are they pumping him up over in PHX yet?
Of course, I'm listening as we post. They start the show off (2PM) firmly denigrating it, then as the show goes along they turn it around and by 6PM local time when the shows ends he'll be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "I was wrong, he's going to be a great acquisition. And his short stature will be really be a + rather than -. I wish he were even shorter. Yeah, even shorter. Even shorter. I like his shortness. I'm glad. McDonough, he's a genius, I don't know where we'd be without him."
Fuck! Why do I listen?
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07-11-2014, 07:32 PM
Radio guys are killing the move, saying we overpaid. Pretty much everyone else thinks it's a great bargain for him.
No, they started off killing it, now as the shows winds to an end, they've turned it around and are defending it. By sign off they'll love it.
Xylus
07-11-2014, 07:33 PM
Of course, I'm listening as we post. They start the show off (2PM) firmly denigrating it, then as the show goes along they turn it around and by 6PM local time when the shows ends he'll be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "I was wrong, he's going to be a great acquisition. And his short stature will be really be a + rather than -. I wish he were even shorter. Yeah, even shorter. Even shorter. I like his shortness. I'm glad. McDonough, he's a genius, I don't know where we'd be without him."
Fuck! Why do I listen?
Not sure, maybe you should move.
That's Gambo, though. He's a flake. Probably got a call from Sarver telling him to stop the negative press.
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07-11-2014, 07:35 PM
Not sure, maybe you should move.
That's Gambo, though. He's a flake.
"flake" my ass. He gets his materiel right from the Suns PR Dept.. He just relays it to us over the radio.
And they ran me off the site last weekend. Cocksuckers.
Xylus
07-11-2014, 07:45 PM
"flake" my ass. He gets his materiel right from the Suns PR Dept.. He just relays it to us over the radio.
And they ran me off the site last weekend. Cocksuckers.
Yeah, but I think we can agree that he jumps on the bandwagon when a Phoenix team is playing well and then jumps right off when they struggle.
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07-11-2014, 07:46 PM
Yeah, but I think we can agree that he jumps on the bandwagon when a Phoenix team is playing well and then jumps right off when they struggle.
Absolutely.
JMarkJohns
07-11-2014, 08:32 PM
Fact Gambo originally preferred a 30+Old, 11-5 starting PF with a bum ticker for 4/32 million than a sub-25, 20-6 starting PG for 4/27 when your starting PG is a FA demanding max money, and your fan favorite comboguard is a year away from 30+ and doing the same proves Gambo is a goddamn idiot.
I'm still puzzled by the signing, but even I as an University of Arizona fan whose watched Frye since we were both in high school at the same time doesn't think he's worth 4/32 at 30+ with heart disease.
A worse signing is PJ Tucker. Let the hustle bum leave, showcase Gerald Green for deadline trade, see what you have in Marcus Morris, and develop TJ Warren as a SF for the future.
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07-11-2014, 08:39 PM
Fact Gambo originally preferred a 30+Old, 11-5 starting PF with a bum ticker for 4/32 million than a sub-25, 20-6 starting PG for 4/27 when your starting PG is a FA demanding max money, and your fan favorite comboguard is a year away from 30+ and doing the same proves Gambo is a goddamn idiot.
I'm still puzzled by the signing, but even I as an University of Arizona fan whose watched Frye since we were both in high school at the same time doesn't think he's worth 4/32 at 30+ with heart disease.
A worse signing is PJ Tucker. Let the hustle bum leave, showcase Gerald Green for deadline trade, see what you have in Marcus Morris, and develop TJ Warren as a SF for the future.
Now contrast that with Hawes & the kid up in Utah, your dream pair. That's progress in "your" eyes. That's on the record. You fucked up by brazening it out for James. You knew, but, you were to vain to let it go after the 48 hour limit you swore was your governor. What I want is a public accounting for McDonough. I want him to answer for this. I can want in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets full first.
JMarkJohns
07-11-2014, 08:53 PM
Hawes hurt. He's a perfect replacement for Frye, but is young and better defensively (though still not great).
But Frye isn't worth 8, and Hayward sure as hell isn't worth 16.6 a season. Not no way. Not no how...
Both were waiting out max deals for their value, just as Bledsoe is doing.
This signing isn't a part of the problem, but indicative of the real problem:
Sarver shit all over the players last lockout. Very publicly. While he's made smart moves since, elite FAs aren't signing with Phoenix because of Sarver.
But McDonough isn't blameless. Tucker seems stupid. Len and Ennis like wastes.
But while the King or his Love ain't walking through the door, it was foolish to ever believe it, and I will tip my cap to better judgment in the Frye/Hayward passings, but still gnaw my teeth at Tucker's waste of CAP. Shit, his deal was almost Hawes.
Jeremy
07-12-2014, 01:00 AM
5.5 million per is way too much for Tucker. I'm just glad they let Frye walk at least.
The number of point guards they're accumulating is ridiculous, if they really intend to keep all of them as they claim.
TDMVPDPOY
07-12-2014, 01:18 AM
u dont pay a backup who earns just as much as the starting pg, are they thinkn of switchin tragic to sg?>
Kamnik
07-12-2014, 02:51 AM
I hope for a sign and trade for Bledsoe if he really wants the max.... anything else is bad for Phoenix.
You don't want to have all 3 of your best players be a natural point guards :O
Bled for Love would be awsome.... but it smells like Cleveland for him.
Kamnik
07-12-2014, 06:43 AM
Can someone who knows anything about the Kings explain this to me - why didn't they want to keep Thomas? Who will fill in the PG spot for them?
Is he a headcase?
JMarkJohns
07-12-2014, 06:55 AM
Collison fills the role, plus I think they think Stauskus is an NBA PG, since he was a successful NCAA PG.
Thomas is short. That's his defect. I've heard many people say he's an excellent teammate going back to college. He accepted a supposed 6th-Man role with Phoenix after putting up 20 PPG and 6 APG as a starter.
Sacramento just has no idea what they are doing.
Tried Evans, then Jimmer, then Vasquez, then Thomas, now Collison.
Kamnik
07-12-2014, 07:00 AM
Thanks man, makes my day better... than maybe there is an option to have them all 3. But then they can use Goodwin and the other rookie PG as a trade chips.
Raven
07-12-2014, 07:06 AM
:lol @ max player
Twisted_Dawg
07-12-2014, 07:15 AM
Of course, I'm listening as we post. They start the show off........
Fuck! Why do I listen?
Because you are a die hard hoops fan like the rest of us:toast
JMarkJohns
07-12-2014, 07:40 AM
Thanks man, makes my day better... than maybe there is an option to have them all 3. But then they can use Goodwin and the other rookie PG as a trade chips.
I wouldn't trade Goodwin for anything other than a superstar. Kid was a year young for college, struggled at times, but his explosiveness is like a taller Russell Westbrook. Skills take some time to acquire, but he's had praises sung over his coachability in this time. Hornacek will teach him a consistent stroke and once the jumper is there, he's a top-5 player in the draft.
Ennis is peculiar. So is Thomas, but Goodwin is one of the best value prospects in the League.
Don't know what the fuck they're trying to do tbh... So many point guards... Ennis is a great prospect but how do you develop him if he never has the ball in his hands, let alone the necessary playing time :downspin:...
Even if they sign and trade Bledsoe I don't get it...
Captivus
07-12-2014, 08:34 AM
I like what PHO is doing.
These are 2 very good videos I saw a few months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htiURZVuoks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofiEqogb8w
D-Wade
07-12-2014, 10:14 AM
I like Thomas' game. Besides Cousins (and we all know his shortcomings) he was the 2nd most talented player on the Kings. Not sure what the Suns want with 3 PGs though.
baseline bum
07-12-2014, 11:05 AM
Bledsoe is definitely getting max after the contracts handed out to Parsons and Hayward. Unbelievable the money paid to above average but sub all-star players under this new CBA. Makes me worry that Danny Green is gone next summer.
jimbo
07-12-2014, 11:16 AM
Stauskas ain't athletic enough to defend NBA PGs. He was getting burned a bit last night.
and lol at this deal. 7 mil for a midget PG :lol
jimbo
07-12-2014, 11:18 AM
Makes me worry that Danny Green is gone next summer.
You know someone is gonna overpay the fuck outta him. 8 mil at least? I honestly don't know his value. How much is a big dick nigga who's the greatest finals shooter of all time worth?
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07-12-2014, 11:25 AM
You know someone is gonna overpay the fuck outta him. 8 mil at least? I honestly don't know his value. How much is a big dick nigga who's the greatest finals shooter of all time worth?
I don't think so. He's an institutional man, a System man. He won't be disturbed.
jimbo
07-12-2014, 11:29 AM
I don't think so. He's an institutional man, a System man. He won't be disturbed.
He just needs a couple GMS to think he's not to get paid though. I mean even without his prolific 3 point shooting, he's still a great defender and an above average 3 point shooter.
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07-12-2014, 11:33 AM
He just needs a couple GMS to think he's not to get paid though. I mean even without his prolific 3 point shooting, he's still a great defender and an above average 3 point shooter.
Then preemptively pay him. Don't do what others have trod.
TheSanityAnnex
07-14-2014, 05:08 PM
Money well spent imho, dude's gonna be a top5 PG in the league within a few years imho.
He's a ball stopper, plain and simple. Glad to see his chucking no defense playing midget ass gone.
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2014/7/13/5896453/passes-per-possesion-time-or-where-did-the-kings-ball-go-to-die
callo1
07-14-2014, 06:38 PM
Plays zero defense, but is a rising offensive threat. If he learns to play defense, it is a great deal, if not, it isn't.
djohn2oo8
07-14-2014, 06:42 PM
So they are gonna pay Dragic, Bledsoe, AND Thomas?
Xylus
07-14-2014, 06:51 PM
He's a ball stopper, plain and simple. Glad to see his chucking no defense playing midget ass gone.
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2014/7/13/5896453/passes-per-possesion-time-or-where-did-the-kings-ball-go-to-die
You sound mad.
Xylus
07-14-2014, 06:52 PM
So they are gonna pay Dragic, Bledsoe, AND Thomas?
Looks like it, yes.
Infinite_limit
07-14-2014, 06:53 PM
I had no idea this guy existed
Xylus
07-14-2014, 06:58 PM
iDfGrrwVPDU
TheSanityAnnex
07-14-2014, 07:42 PM
iDfGrrwVPDU
Another thing I am looking forward to with his departure. This commercial played no less then 10 times per Kings broadcast. Good riddance pizza guy.
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07-14-2014, 07:56 PM
Plays zero defense, but is a rising offensive threat. If he learns to play defense, it is a great deal, if not, it isn't.
How in the fuck is he going to play defense at 5-9?
It's a piss pot move by a bunch of piss pots.
They're Hell bent on this two pg offense. Couldn't dissuade them with a Sherman Tank,,,but, the kicker? They've stated unequivocally they will not pay both of them max money. That reasoning right there is lost on the Media here. Goes right over their head. WTF would you institute, stock it, aim for the moon with it and then put a governor on it? You wouldn't, or, anybody with common sense & vision wouldn't. If both Blood & Dragic play top end, one of 'em is doomed.
Donough indeed.
Medvedenko
07-14-2014, 08:35 PM
Kevin Johnson 2.0
callo1
07-18-2014, 03:53 PM
How in the fuck is he going to play defense at 5-9?
It's a piss pot move by a bunch of piss pots.
They're Hell bent on this two pg offense. Couldn't dissuade them with a Sherman Tank,,,but, the kicker? They've stated unequivocally they will not pay both of them max money. That reasoning right there is lost on the Media here. Goes right over their head. WTF would you institute, stock it, aim for the moon with it and then put a governor on it? You wouldn't, or, anybody with common sense & vision wouldn't. If both Blood & Dragic play top end, one of 'em is doomed.
Donough indeed.
Ask Patty Mills.
Be a pest by hounding the offensive player for 94 feet. Defense is in large part effort. Some scorers in the NBA make the choice not to expend energy on the defensive end so they can chase scoring averages.
Amare, Harden, Durant, Kirby (the last few years) etc.
BlackSwordsMan
07-18-2014, 03:59 PM
Of course, I'm listening as we post. They start the show off (2PM) firmly denigrating it, then as the show goes along they turn it around and by 6PM local time when the shows ends he'll be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "I was wrong, he's going to be a great acquisition. And his short stature will be really be a + rather than -. I wish he were even shorter. Yeah, even shorter. Even shorter. I like his shortness. I'm glad. McDonough, he's a genius, I don't know where we'd be without him."
Fuck! Why do I listen?
Why are you listening to the suns radio you fuck you
phxspurfan
07-18-2014, 04:05 PM
Dragic > Thomas. I would say that Phx missed the boat on trading some of their young pieces and now they're gonna be decimated by everyone leaving for their paydays.
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07-18-2014, 04:11 PM
Why are you listening to the suns radio you fuck you
I like to hate. tee, hee.
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07-18-2014, 04:14 PM
Dragic > Thomas. I would say that Phx missed the boat on trading some of their young pieces and now they're gonna be decimated by everyone leaving for their paydays.
& they've got a tiger by the tail with Bledsoe. He doesn't want to be herePERIOD And everybody knows it. But, nobody else wants him at max because of his knees. He's bone-on-bone at 25 years old. And he went the short route on the last meniscus because he wanted to keep the money in line.
I love this shit.
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