PDA

View Full Version : who else left for the mle out there??



davi78239
07-13-2014, 09:20 AM
Aside from Marion, who else could spurs land? I just don't want Bonner back getting a good chunk of that.

Mel_13
07-13-2014, 09:22 AM
Aside from Marion, who else could spurs land? I just don't want Bonner back getting a good chunk of that.

If Bonner returns, it won't be for any part of the MLE. Vet min or Bird exception.

jeebus
07-13-2014, 09:27 AM
What a great fucking thread.

Obstructed_View
07-13-2014, 09:49 AM
http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpt u0ndyyzwnhmjlhode3mdixmmrmoti1ntjmowvjywe4.jpeg

vjcchs12
07-13-2014, 09:59 AM
http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpt u0ndyyzwnhmjlhode3mdixmmrmoti1ntjmowvjywe4.jpeg

This would be great pick up to add a spark off the bench and play garbage time minutes. He is much better than AYres

Steve-O-Matic
07-13-2014, 10:01 AM
I still like Al-Farouq Aminu as a combo forward defensive specialist, and Troy Daniels (non-guaranteed) as another 3-point shooting specialist.

Obstructed_View
07-13-2014, 10:07 AM
This would be great pick up to add a spark off the bench and play garbage time minutes. He is much better than AYres

http://cdn.niketalk.com/2/2b/2bb06ffa_sure-if-serious-i-am-not.jpeg

exstatic
07-13-2014, 10:10 AM
Aminu (23) and Ed Davis (25), fifty/fifty.

No more old guys.

Birn
07-13-2014, 10:12 AM
We really don't need much. Our roster is pretty much set. I would only foresee some minor changes for a backup SF and another PG to give us another ballhandler while Mills is out.

I like Xavier Henry as a low price alternative for a backup SF. He's young, athletic, and can shoot from deep. He's also excellent at getting to the line. He can be had for the BA exception.

If Cotton continues to impress then he should be our 3rd pg.

Although Daye's contract was picked up it's only around a million dollars. If proves worthy in summer league he can be our stretch 4. If not, I can see him getting waived or moved in favor of Bonner.

I like Baynes to return as well. Hopefully he comes back with a reasonable contract. If not, then Bonner would take his spot in the roster. If the Spurs feel they need a true banger then the best options are Baynes or jason Smith.

playbonner15
07-13-2014, 10:24 AM
http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpt u0ndyyzwnhmjlhode3mdixmmrmoti1ntjmowvjywe4.jpeg

Best choice IMO :lol

spursparker9
07-13-2014, 10:29 AM
Blair can light a fire under Tony's ass

vjcchs12
07-13-2014, 10:33 AM
Aminu (23) and Ed Davis (25), fifty/fifty.

No more old guys.

Ed Davis is a possibility

xmas1997
07-13-2014, 10:41 AM
The Blair ship as a Spur has sailed IMHO.

Jimcs50
07-13-2014, 10:49 AM
I'm available

benjirh
07-13-2014, 11:36 AM
The spurs almost always carry 14 guys as a way to keep themselves open as the year goes on. I don't see anyone getting cut just so we can sign another unproven min player. I think Baynes comes back on the offer sheet and we don't sign anyone until 10 day contracts. Ginobili, Bellinelli, and Joseph are all decent ball handlers and with a smart team, ball movement is not an issue. I think if they expect Mills to be back after the break then we don't get anyone else, but if it looks like he is progressing slowly, then maybe we get another PG by the deadline.

palangi
07-13-2014, 11:39 AM
Aminu (23) and Ed Davis (25), fifty/fifty.

No more old guys.
I'd like to see this. especiall if we could cut ayres.

ElNono
07-13-2014, 11:42 AM
how bout Wade? He already lost money and he won't be chasing for a ring in Miami or Chicago...

Obstructed_View
07-13-2014, 12:32 PM
The Blair ship as a Spur has sailed IMHO.

Even for the minimum. Why the fuck would anyone want him for the MLE? We already know he only plays when it suits him, and if he's on the Spurs, there's nobody he would feel disrespected enough to give effort against.

BatManu20
07-13-2014, 12:49 PM
How is Ed Davis not getting more interest tbh. Underachieved thus far in his career but still young and athletic and can actually catch a basketball.

DPG21920
07-13-2014, 12:53 PM
Yup - I mentioned Ed Davis a little while ago. Very surprising he's not getting looks. Would definitely like the Spurs to get him.

beirmeistr
07-13-2014, 12:53 PM
Get Marion for all or part of the MLE. That guy's been a contributor in all the teams he has played for.

Holden_Caulfield
07-13-2014, 12:57 PM
aminu please, he could be our 3&D project and insurance for danny green, but for the cheap

beirmeistr
07-13-2014, 01:01 PM
How about Francisco garcia? He's a feisty competitor who could a good backup for Kawhi.

Kurik
07-13-2014, 01:04 PM
I wouldn't mind the Spurs giving Aminu a shot, still very young.

keepinitwill
07-13-2014, 01:09 PM
1. Aminu 2. Devin Harris 3. Wesley Johnson

jag
07-13-2014, 01:09 PM
Marion on what it would take to get him back to Dallas next season:


Not too much (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/05/shawn-marion-says-he-has-a-couple-years-left-wants-to-end-career-in-dallas/). This is a great city, the fans here are amazing, even media guys are awesome. It’s a great environment here. Mark and Donnie have built an amazing franchise here. It’s like a family here. I’m going to weigh my options out and see what it’s going to take for me to get another championship ring. I would love to add to the ring I have. I’m going to retire here, regardless. I’m going to be a Dallas local here in the coming years. I’m going to make this my home.”

Maybe staying in Texas would suffice for now.

$pursDynasty
07-13-2014, 01:54 PM
Bledsoe if he really wants a ring on a short deal to enhance his resume. We need someone athletic enough to stay in front of the ultra fast PG's out there, ala Westbrook, Ellis, that give the Spurs fits on defense.

Taking it to the Hole
07-13-2014, 02:19 PM
If Marion is not willing to sign for cheap, I conceivably see the Spurs standing pat and not using the MLE this year. This may be a better strategy because they will have more financial flexibility next year to make some moves. The Spurs shouldn't bend over backwards to get a free agent to come here. Either they want to win or they don't. Gasol made his choice and he is content with never winning another championship again. I really don't see how Marion helps us because he is not the same player anymore so I would rather us stand pat and not make anymore moves if they are not going to significantly help our team.

davi78239
07-13-2014, 02:20 PM
All this time I was thinking Wesley Mathews from Portland.... lol

TXstbobcat
07-13-2014, 02:36 PM
Bledsoe if he really wants a ring on a short deal to enhance his resume. We need someone athletic enough to stay in front of the ultra fast PG's out there, ala Westbrook, Ellis, that give the Spurs fits on defense.


Bledsoe would laugh at any team only offering him the mid-level exception.

Money316
07-13-2014, 02:48 PM
Roger that ese

tholdren
07-13-2014, 02:52 PM
what is Scola's situation? ?

spursnatic
07-13-2014, 11:04 PM
Shit we have no room left..If the Bonner signing is true?..We have 16 on the roster now

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-13-2014, 11:05 PM
what is Scola's situation? ?

Still under contract w Pacers.

exstatic
07-13-2014, 11:07 PM
Shit we have no room left..If the Bonner signing is true?..We have 16 on the roster now

Cotton is a training camp cut, and Baynes hasn't been signed yet, he's only had a qualifying offer tendered.

spursnatic
07-13-2014, 11:09 PM
Cotton is a training camp cut, and Baynes hasn't been signed yet, he's only had a qualifying offer tendered.Baynes will be back..Nobody else wants him

baseline bum
07-13-2014, 11:09 PM
Aminu (23) and Ed Davis (25), fifty/fifty.

No more old guys.

I would fucking love to take a flyer on Davis. He looked like a pretty promising young player in Toronto. Still, he'd likely be getting less minutes than he did in Memphis even, so it'll really take an amazing job from the coaching staff to develop the kid's talent. The guy rebounds, blocks shots, and shoots at a high percentage.

exstatic
07-13-2014, 11:13 PM
How is Ed Davis not getting more interest tbh. Underachieved thus far in his career but still young and athletic and can actually catch a basketball.

6'10", 25, athletic, unrestricted, and he's been an average or above average PER player all four years. You got me.

kjhip1
07-13-2014, 11:15 PM
I would fucking love to take a flyer on Davis. He looked like a pretty promising young player in Toronto. Still, he'd likely be getting less minutes than he did in Memphis even, so it'll really take an amazing job from the coaching staff to develop the kid's talent. The guy rebounds, blocks shots, and shoots at a high percentage.

Especially since Ayers has been utter garbage....Im pretty sure Davis knows how to dunk in less than 5 tries

TheGreatYacht
07-13-2014, 11:17 PM
Baynes will be back..Nobody else wants him
Philly is going after him soon. Brett Brown always liked him

spursnatic
07-13-2014, 11:23 PM
Philly is going after him soon. Brett Brown always liked him
Do us a solid Brett

Darkwaters
07-13-2014, 11:59 PM
Cotton is a training camp cut, and Baynes hasn't been signed yet, he's only had a qualifying offer tendered.

I still believe that either Cotton will be retained or someone else of a similar ilk. We're going to need another small guard to replace Patty - at least temporarily.

exstatic
07-14-2014, 12:08 AM
I still believe that either Cotton will be retained or someone else of a similar ilk. We're going to need another small guard to replace Patty - at least temporarily.

Doubtful. They won't want to pay for the whole year, and since Patty won't likely be back until the RRT, they'll have to do without Cotton, or his like, for weeks anyway, with the cut date in January. If that's the case, why keep him, and THEN have to change everything again in January to cut him, and then adjust again when Patty returns. I think Beli and Cory will just pick up more minutes.

montgod
07-14-2014, 12:09 AM
Philly is going after him soon. Brett Brown always liked him

Like he doesn't have enough big men already.

montgod
07-14-2014, 12:11 AM
Doubtful. They won't want to pay for the whole year, and since Patty won't likely be back until the RRT, they'll have to do without Cotton, or his like, for weeks anyway, with the cut date in January. If that's the case, why keep him, and THEN have to change everything again in January to cut him, and then adjust again when Patty returns. I think Beli and Cory will just pick up more minutes.

Unfortunately I have to agree. Cotton looks like what he is... a rookie. I don't see Spurs validating his contract with a spot on the team. Still other free agents out there, and spots on the team are a premium unless they just outright cut Ayres and Daye (their current weakest links it seems)

Darkwaters
07-14-2014, 12:12 AM
Doubtful. They won't want to pay for the whole year, and since Patty won't likely be back until the RRT, they'll have to do without Cotton, or his like, for weeks anyway, with the cut date in January. If that's the case, why keep him, and THEN have to change everything again in January to cut him, and then adjust again when Patty returns. I think Beli and Cory will just pick up more minutes.

I think both are possibilities. Cotton could easily be cut and sent to Austin. If Beli and Cory need another body then he can simply be called up from the local affiliate.

But lets imagine a situation where Patty wasn't hurt but sustained a significant injury in the early season. If we had a roster spot available we probably bring in an extra body to help out. Thats just been the Spurs modus operandi for a while.

I'm just saying I could see it go either way. Training camp could be interesting.

Darkwaters
07-14-2014, 12:13 AM
Unfortunately I have to agree. Cotton looks like what he is... a rookie. I don't see Spurs validating his contract with a spot on the team. Still other free agents out there, and spots on the team are a premium unless they just outright cut Ayres and Daye (their current weakest links it seems)

I didn't say it had to be Cotton. I just think hes getting the first shot at it.

xmas1997
07-14-2014, 12:18 AM
I seriously doubt the Spurs add another PG unless someone really impresses, and so far none have.
As someone on here has already pointed out, the Spurs are quite content to go with playing point by committee IMHO.
They did it last year for a while and can do it again until Patty comes back by going with TP, Manu, Beli, and even SloMo depending on how quick he grasps the system.

Edit: I forgot to mention Cojo as the primary backup PG.

montgod
07-14-2014, 12:28 AM
I didn't say it had to be Cotton. I just think hes getting the first shot at it.

True and that shot is now for summer.

I think both are possibilities. Cotton could easily be cut and sent to Austin. If Beli and Cory need another body then he can simply be called up from the local affiliate.

But lets imagine a situation where Patty wasn't hurt but sustained a significant injury in the early season. If we had a roster spot available we probably bring in an extra body to help out. Thats just been the Spurs modus operandi for a while.

I'm just saying I could see it go either way. Training camp could be interesting.

Yeah its going to be interesting to see how rest of team is filled out (with mindset that Ayres or Daye may be gone as well as Cotton). I still think Baynes comes back but after that...up in the air.

superbigtime
07-14-2014, 12:30 AM
Aminu (23) and Ed Davis (25), fifty/fifty.

No more old guys.
Either would be great. Guess that would mean Baynes odd guy out now which sucks.

montgod
07-14-2014, 12:36 AM
Wouldn't mind Mo Williams for minimum.

xmas1997
07-14-2014, 12:41 AM
I still think Baynes will sign his qualifying offer.
And I would not be surprised if either Daye or Ayers were let go or traded.
I doubt Cotton makes it past training camp, and ends up on the Toros.

MANUNG-Ginobili
07-14-2014, 12:44 AM
can we get Monroe for our MLE?

montgod
07-14-2014, 12:45 AM
can we get Monroe for our MLE?

No way

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2014, 12:46 AM
can we get Monroe for our MLE?
No way... Unless you mean Mike Monroe

Malik Hairston
07-14-2014, 12:48 AM
I'd be cool with taking Davis as a project, but he's one of the 3 most overrated prospects in the league, tbh..

Darkwaters
07-14-2014, 12:49 AM
can we get Monroe for our MLE?

In a market that pays Jordan Hill 9M a year? What do you think?

21209
07-14-2014, 12:57 AM
I'd take Ed Davis over Ayres in a heartbeat.

That said, he's not worth the full MLE.

spurraider21
07-14-2014, 01:21 AM
aminu please, he could be our 3&D project and insurance for danny green, but for the cheap
you do realize that 50% of 3&D is 3 right? the guy doesn't have a functional jumpshot

spurraider21
07-14-2014, 01:25 AM
bottom end roster spots are typically worthless, but not with the spurs as currently built, which is why Daye/Ayres having spots is so fucking infuriating

davi78239
07-14-2014, 01:37 AM
So there's a 99% chance that the final roster spot most likely goes to Baynes. Damn, I hope I'm wrong.

outmap
07-14-2014, 03:10 AM
best case is Baynes will be back, Ayres traded for a future 2nd, and get lucky to sign a pseudo star for the MLE.

minuzzo21
07-14-2014, 06:12 AM
I would try to trade Ayers and take Ed Davis

mudyez
07-14-2014, 06:24 AM
So there's a 99% chance that the final roster spot most likely goes to Baynes. Damn, I hope I'm wrong.

Hope you are not wrong! Like him and we might need him vs. Houston.

Just like a lot of posters here I'd like to get rid of Ayers in favour of a young or servicable SF/PF, but if we are just bringing the whole band back together (+SloMo) I love our offseason!

TheCerebral1
07-14-2014, 06:26 AM
Ed Davis, please! Someone that I think would actually do something with minutes unlike Pendergraph. (I refuse to call him Ayres).

Ice009
07-14-2014, 08:16 AM
best case is Baynes will be back, Ayres traded for a future 2nd, and get lucky to sign a pseudo star for the MLE.

lol. No-one is going to give the Spurs a pick for Ayres. That's a dreamland scenario, not best case.

Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
07-14-2014, 08:17 AM
lol. No-one is going to give the Spurs a pick for Ayres. That's a dreamland scenario, not best case.

Spurs would have to send out a 2nd round pick for a team to take him.

baseline bum
07-14-2014, 09:07 AM
what is Scola's situation? ?

Still a washed up piece of shit

baseline bum
07-14-2014, 09:16 AM
Wouldn't mind Mo Williams for minimum.

I'd hate it. Williams is the stupidest point guard since Steve Francis.

60YWxNt9zbs

qkuO9p8slSI

Tyrone Jenkins
07-14-2014, 12:04 PM
Ed Davis is better than Baynes. No one is debating that. But the one thing people need to keep in mind is that it takes a while to learn the system.

Personally, i dont think either one is all that great an addition...the Spurs need smarter vets as backups vs. younger potential guys. Why? Two reasons - one is to give the Spurs more $ options in 2015 and beyond when TD, TP and Ginobili retire (don't want a bunch of younger but less talented guys eating up cap space and roster spots) so that bigger free agents like Aldridge, Love or someone else might be possibilities and two, vets pick up the system faster and can be had for portions of the MLE and/or BA for vet minimum for shorter periods of time. This may be the only chance that many of those vets get to win a ring - thoughts of Micheal Finley come to mind.

The Spurs are lacking one piece, a defensive minded 3/4 who can shoot from the corners. It was supposed to be Stephen Jackson but he couldn't behave himself . . . And is part of the reason why the Spurs lost to Miami last year.

I hope this year it's Shawn Marion.