Houston will not match--- Welcome Jesus H. Parsons

[IrisHockey]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 36s (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/488441622527750145)
Houston will not match the $46M Dallas offer sheet for Chandler Parsons, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

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[m>s]

glorious day today is!!! welcome aboard to another aryan.

[BatManu20]

Smart decision by Houston for once. Vastly overpaying and they would've been locked up for 2015.

[IrisHockey]

so glad it's him and not that wild ass nigga Lance

[djohn2oo8]

Thought they would. Oh well, wonder why they didn't wait til 10:59 to announce it?

[djohn2oo8]

How much cap space do the Mavs have?

[IrisHockey]

^ 2.7 mil

[SpursOwn]

Might as well crown them champs tbh. I mean, they did take us to 7, so this should guarantee champ number 2 imho.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Daryl Moron

I'm fully expecting Houston to overpay for Marion now :bang

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Grim business.

[spurraider21]

good player/fit, bad contract. not like it matters, their window is only open as long as dirk is around anyway

[spurraider21]

so where's lance headed now :lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lol Daryl Moron

I'm fully expecting Houston to overpay for Marion now :bang

Sorry but the Spurs are more than likely getting Marion. He wants to stay in Texas.

[IrisHockey]

Grim business.

:lmao Rockets thought they had Bosh.. ended up with Trevor Ariza and a scrub PF

[sook]

You motherfucking retarded ass stat geek. Stick to your damn calculator and stay out of basketball. I'm sure your days with your mother fucking puppet are numbered. Fuck you too Les, you cheapass lying motherfucking piece of shit always talking big about going into the LT. You guys fucked this team and deserve to rot together.

[m>s]

too bad marion won't come back on the cheap to back up parsons. with he and vince and maybe a couple of other tweaks we would be stacked!

[Clipper Nation]

Sorry but the Spurs are more than likely getting Marion. He wants to stay in Texas.

If he's willing to take less money (which it seems like hardly any veterans are this offseason), I still think he'll end up as a Clipper where he'd be guaranteed to start.... unfortunately, I see Morey signing him in a bitchmade attempt to "get back at" Cuban :lol

[mavsfan1000]

It's not 11PM yet.

[IrisHockey]

It's not 11PM yet.

They're already talking sign and trades. It's over.

[baseline bum]

Never really believed Houston would match that. I mean $15 million a year for a slightly above average starter?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

It's not 11PM yet.

Houston just have to inform the league they arent matching. That Ariza trade confirmed they aren't matching.

[Clipper Nation]

Never really believed Houston would match that. I mean $15 million a year for a slightly above average starter?
Honestly, it was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation for Houston, tbh.... either they overpay Parsons and ruin any hope of cap flexibility, or they downgrade their team and significantly shorten their window by getting rid of Parsons, Asik, and Lin....

Morey gambled and lost badly....

[apalisoc_9]

Good decision by Houston..Ariza is acutally a better fit and is much cheaper too.

[DPG21920]

Mavs swapped Calderon/Dalembert/Vince/Matrix for Chandler/Parsons/Felton/Jefferson essentially.

[m>s]

Mavs swapped Calderon/Dalembert/Vince/Matrix for Chandler/Parsons/Felton/Jefferson essentially.
i fucking hope they aren't done dealing.

[mavsfan1000]

Yep we lost Marion. Ouch!

[DPG21920]

Well, if Felton (huge if) can at least regain his best years in CHA form then Mavs came out ahead depending on who else they sign. But it will rely on Tyson staying healthy and Felton not being a huge negative. But on paper getting Tyson/Parsons is an upgrade (even though they lack the depth now).

[mavsfan1000]

i fucking hope they aren't done dealing.

They're done signing. That's why I was against signing Parsons to such an outrageous contract.

[baseline bum]

Honestly, it was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation for Houston, tbh.... either they overpay Parsons and ruin any hope of cap flexibility, or they downgrade their team and significantly shorten their window by getting rid of Parsons, Asik, and Lin....

Morey gambled and lost badly....

Did they get anything of value? CROFL Houston.

But really, it was a situation of damned if you don't, completely fucked if you do match that offer.

[DPG21920]

They're done signing. That's why I was against signing Parsons to such an outrageous contract.

Well, the issue is, while they were waiting, Deng was signed. Ariza was signed. Hayward was signed. Bosh was signed. Lebron and Melo were signed. Wade was essentially locked up.

That all happened before Dallas had a shot to do anything because of that Parsons offer sheet. They made their bed with that offer. Even if HOU matched, all that is left is someone like Lance Stephenson.

Even guys like Marvin Williams, Lin (who was available to absorb into cap space + would have netted a pick), Isaiah Thomas are all gone.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Clutchfans is of course bashing Parsons and blaming Les Alexander for Morey's fuckup....

[spurraider21]

Dallas would be terrifying with a point guard. they're still going to be pushing for a top 4 seed as is

[m>s]

I wonder if there's any mathematical way possible that we could clear cap space needed to still sign Stephenson for 8-9 per. RC coached sjax and artest on the same team and he could keep lance under control. Devin/lance/parsons/dirk/tc is respectable.

[ElNono]

this is a solid pickup... Marion was in his last legs and with VC gone, here's a young guy that can play minutes and produce... they still need to move Felton

[noob cake]

15.3m/year for Parsons?

Seriously. What a shit signing.

[HemisfairArena]

So Houston lost Asik, Parsons, and Lin but gained Ariza? Morey going backwards. LMAO,,,,As long as the bricker Harden is on the team,,,they wont win shit.

[mavsfan1000]

15.3m/year for Parsons?

Seriously. What a shit signing.
Yep. We hope he lives up to that contract. But we have no money now due to his contract. Bye bye Marion.

[m>s]

wish we could somehow dump felton and wright for some real talent. i can't stand brandon wright he fucking sucks. twig PF who can't debound, defend, shoot, or otherwise score outside of an open dunk.

[Franklin]

Better than ending up empty handed though. I don't like this signing at all and I agree Parsons is grossly overpaid, but it's not like we had many alternative choices out there in the market. It's like, when you don't get Scarlett Goddess you wouldn't feel too disappointed to settle with a Lunar Goddess, even though she's overrated being called a "goddess" in the first place.

[IrisHockey]

Wright should be movable but if we do that we're leaning on fucking Sarge to be the backup C

[Franklin]

wish we could somehow dump felton and wright for some real talent. i can't stand brandon wright he fucking sucks. twig PF who can't debound, defend, shoot, or otherwise score outside of an open dunk.
Wright nigga is solid imho, dude has length and decent offensive abilities. We're paying him too much though, if we could convert him & some fillers into some real talent for us like you said, it would be a good deal.

[Mel_13]

Well, the issue is, while they were waiting, Deng was signed. Ariza was signed. Hayward was signed. Bosh was signed. Lebron and Melo were signed. Wade was essentially locked up.

That all happened before Dallas had a shot to do anything because of that Parsons offer sheet. They made their bed with that offer. Even if HOU matched, all that is left is someone like Lance Stephenson.

Even guys like Marvin Williams, Lin (who was available to absorb into cap space + would have netted a pick), Isaiah Thomas are all gone.

Stephenson may be down to Charlotte and Indy if he wants more than the MLE. Bet he didn't see that coming when he blew in LeBron's ear.

[m>s]

Wright should be movable but if we do that we're leaning on fucking Sarge to be the backup C

honestly brandon wright isn't any better. he makes some cool monkeyballer dunks but he can't even knock down a 10 foot jumper or defend because he's too weak.

[m>s]

Wright nigga is solid imho, dude has length and decent offensive abilities. We're paying him too much though, if we could convert him & some fillers into some real talent for us like you said, it would be a good deal.

what's his offensive ability outside of an open dunk?

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You motherfucking retarded ass stat geek.

The sookster is off on a tangent.

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It's akin to Riley jettisoning Miller over 5 million. That's what this is all about.

[RsxPiimp]

Kinda smart of Morey to make Parsons a FA this year. Not.

Rockets continue to become a revolving door for young talents. Dragon, Lowry, Parsons etc. They're too quick to let their own talent go but willing to overpay the same guys when they get better, like Lin.

Morey blows tbh.

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Rockets continue to become a revolving door for young talents. Dragon, Lowry, Parsons etc. They're too quick to let their own talent go but willing to overpay the same guys when they get better, like Lin.

The Pimp

- "And if you think we're forgettin' about this, you're wrong. This is big time, baby."

- "Ace" - "Stand By Me"

[Clipper Nation]

Rockets continue to become a revolving door for young talents. Dragon, Lowry, Parsons etc. They're too quick to let their own talent go but willing to overpay the same guys when they get better, like Lin.
Once again, Morey just thinks of young players and role players as assets instead of players with talent.... basically, they're used trash to him that he's willing to discard in an instant to chase the next free agency pipe dream, tbh....

[IrisHockey]

Bosh

[sook]

Congrats to Parsons on getting paid and making the team USA Roster!

[sook]

The sookster is off on a tangent.

I've been screaming this shit for over a season...I told them that this fucking stargazing/asset bullshit would blow up. You can't blame me.

[mercos]

First smart move Houston has made this offseason. Parsons is a good, slightly above average player, and is not worth anything close to $15 million. The Rockets would have been on the verge of becoming the Knicks if they matched that terrible contract.

[DPG21920]

First smart move Houston has made this offseason. Parsons is a good, slightly above average player, and is not worth anything close to $15 million. The Rockets would have been on the verge of becoming the Knicks if they matched that terrible contract.

Ya, instead HOU only has 45M committed to Dwight/Harden/Ariza in 2015 & 2016 with possibly 5M more committed to Jones/Motiejunas (team options) for a whopping 50M for 5 players in 2015.

So they can still add to their team this year via MLE & 8M Trade Exception from Lin trade, however, if we assume the cap stays the same next year (63M) and they pick up the options for Jones/Motiejunas, HOU will have 13M (actually slightly less) in cap space with just 5 players under contract next year.

If HOU signs anyone else this year for guaranteed money going beyond the end of this upcoming season, that cap space number goes down by that amount.

[LittleCriminal]

You motherfucking retarded ass stat geek. Stick to your damn calculator and stay out of basketball. I'm sure your days with your mother fucking puppet are numbered. Fuck you too Les, you cheapass lying motherfucking piece of shit always talking big about going into the LT. You guys fucked this team and deserve to rot together.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6503358464/hD6713C30/

[mercos]

Ya, instead HOU only has 45M committed to Dwight/Harden/Ariza in 2015 & 2016 with possibly 5M more committed to Jones/Motiejunas (team options) for a whopping 50M for 5 players in 2015.

So they can still add to their team this year via MLE & 8M Trade Exception from Lin trade, however, if we assume the cap stays the same next year (63M) and they pick up the options for Jones/Motiejunas, HOU will have 13M (actually slightly less) in cap space with just 5 players under contract next year.

If HOU signs anyone else this year for guaranteed money going beyond the end of this upcoming season, that cap space number goes down by that amount.

Ok, maybe they already are the Knicks. :lmao

[DPG21920]

Ok, maybe they already are the Knicks. :lmao

Haha, not quite as bad because they can easily have a bit more flexibility and a lot more tradeable assets, but it's not a great situation.

Let's say they clean house on everyone that is not guaranteed after this season (which as this point is just Dwight/Harden/Ariza because everyone else is either a team option (Jones & Motiejunas), has a qualifying offer (Beverly) or is non guaranteed (Cannon & Covington)) - they will still have 45M committed to just 3 players which would assuming the 63M cap doesn't rise, would leave them slightly less than 18M in cap space to fill out their entire roster (really, it's more like 16M with cap holds).

Keeping in mind that the 16M in cap space with just Dwight/Harden/Ariza goes down directly proportionally to anyone they sign this year (or trade for) that has guaranteed money past this year (so if they trade, use MLE or anything else).

[Indazone]

Morey looking at loading up on all short term contracts. Guess he figures this season is a loss and is preparing for the 2015 free agency.

[DPG21920]

Morey looking at loading up on all short term contracts. Guess he figures this season is a loss and is preparing for the 2015 free agency.

Please see above ^

[Raven]

good player/fit, bad contract. not like it matters, their window is only open as long as dirk is around anyway

what window :lol

[Killakobe81]

:lol Clutchfans is of course bashing Parsons and blaming Les Alexander for Morey's fuckup....

How can they bash their so called "white Pippen"?

[Koolaid_Man]

So Houston lost Asik, Parsons, and Lin but gained Ariza? Morey going backwards. LMAO,,,,As long as the bricker Harden is on the team,,,they wont win shit.


:lol that level of ineptitude makes me grateful to be a Laker fan...they gave away the farm for Ariza :lol Dwert and Harden :lmao

[Pelicans78]

15.3m/year for Parsons?

Seriously. What a shit signing.

He's probably worth around 12 million so not too far off, but Ariza is better value and a better fit since he can hit 3's now consistently and defend.

[Pelicans78]

Lin is not a loss at all and Ariza is better value than Parsons. Asik wasn't a big loss since he wasn't getting many minutes anyway. They still have room to make more improvements.

[spurraider21]

what window :lol
their window of relevance

[elemento]

Morey :lmao

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Morey :lmao

Amsterdam

[Mel_13]

Amsterdam

Rose Marie

[djohn2oo8]

Wanted him back and though they'd match. I'm not going to meltdown over Parsons like they're doing at CF :lol.

Sucks though, if you don't make him a RFA this year, he leaves unrestricted next year but you could trade him. But who trades for a rental who will probably leave?

[djohn2oo8]

488461696990978048

doubt it happens

[mavsfan1000]

Technically, Morey still has 3 hours to change his mind. And what better way to give Cuban the middle finger to change your mind in the last minute.

[djohn2oo8]

Technically, Morey still has 3 hours to change his mind. And what better way to give Cuban the middle finger to change your mind in the last minute.
:lol doubt that happens

[Pelicans78]

:lol doubt that happens

Do you think Parsons can improve overall as a player or have we seen his best?

[Mel_13]

Do you think Parsons can improve overall as a player or have we seen his best?

He should benefit from the huge coaching upgrade.

[mavsfan1000]

Do you think Parsons can improve overall as a player or have we seen his best?
Season 2 was probably Parsons best season so far. Season 3 was close.

[Franklin]

Parsons is already playing close to his ceiling I'm afraid, just a rich man's Walter Herman imho.

[djohn2oo8]

Do you think Parsons can improve overall as a player or have we seen his best?
He can improve. He was a better defender the season before last. Offensively, he can get even better. However, I won't freak out about it. I defended matching the contract and possibly trading later, but if the Rockets keep their MLE, BAE, then that's not bad. It was damned if you do damned if you don't.

[DPG21920]

Wanted him back and though they'd match. I'm not going to meltdown over Parsons like they're doing at CF :lol.

Sucks though, if you don't make him a RFA this year, he leaves unrestricted next year but you could trade him. But who trades for a rental who will probably leave?

Who cares when you get another year out of him (with the possibility to re-sign). If he's going to be gone anyways, why not milk one more cheap year?

[DPG21920]

Lin is not a loss at all and Ariza is better value than Parsons. Asik wasn't a big loss since he wasn't getting many minutes anyway. They still have room to make more improvements.

Bruh - while Ariza is a better value (assuming he plays like he did with the Wiz and not like he did when he was with the Rockets), there is no way to spin that Ariza is better than Lin/Asik/Parsons. Not only from a basketball perspective, but from a future cap space perspective.

Them trading Lin/Asik didn't hurt them from a cap perspective, but not picking up Parson's option and replacing it with a 4 year/32M deal did.

Like I said in my posts above, their future cap space next year and the year after (at least) is in some trouble. If they use their means to improve their team this year to make up for the loss of Parsons/Asik/Lin, that best case scenario cap situation of 16M (assuming the cap doesn't move up from 63M) goes down. So if they sign any guaranteed 2 year deals or more or if they trade for one, it hurts their cap.

[djohn2oo8]

Who cares when you get another year out of him (with the possibility to re-sign). If he's going to be gone anyways, why not milk one more cheap year?
True.

[Pelicans78]

So if Parsons can improve on his game then he's definitely worth the money he got from the Mavs.

[djohn2oo8]

So if Parsons can improve on his game then he's definitely worth the money he got from the Mavs.
He was focused on trying to get his numbers last year and in the process his defense slipped badly. Will be interesting to see.

[Pelicans78]

He was focused on trying to get his numbers last year and in the process his defense slipped badly. Will be interesting to see.

He was a product of McHale. Not sure why this guy is still coaching. He may be the worst coach in the Southwest Division.

[djohn2oo8]

^Tbh, Parsons did develop a massive ego, calling himself the best SF in the series then get obliterated by Batum. I wanted him back no doubt. Just couldn't forget that.

[mavsfan1000]

Parsons was guarding Batum? Uh oh.

[djohn2oo8]

Parsons was guarding Batum? Uh oh.
Yep.

[HemisfairArena]

San Antonio with an old Duncan and Dallas with an old Dirk are still better than Houston with a young Harden and Howard,,,sucks for Rocket fans.

[Chinook]

The question for Houston is can they turn that TE and Capela into a vet PG or starting PF? I think they also got Gee's non-guaranteed deal to use in a trade. So long as Morey is willing to deal assets, Houston can still come out of this all right.

Is it true Morey turned down a trade for Rondo because he didn't want to include Parsons? If so, he seems really dumb now.

[djohn2oo8]

The question for Houston is can they turn that TE and Capela into a vet PG or starting PF? I think they also got Gee's non-guaranteed deal to use in a trade. So long as Morey is willing to deal assets, Houston can still come out of this all right.

Is it true Morey turned down a trade for Rondo because he didn't want to include Parsons? If so, he seems really dumb now.
I think Harden And Dwight questioned how Rondo's attitude would fit. Yes they should have taken that deal obviously.

[djohn2oo8]

They reached out to Atlanta tonight about Millsap.

[DPG21920]

The question for Houston is can they turn that TE and Capela into a vet PG or starting PF? I think they also got Gee's non-guaranteed deal to use in a trade. So long as Morey is willing to deal assets, Houston can still come out of this all right.

Is it true Morey turned down a trade for Rondo because he didn't want to include Parsons? If so, he seems really dumb now.

What assets? I mean you can count Capela & a future first? They don't exactly have a lot of assets to offer out other than cap relief to a team looking to get out of a bad contract.

If they take on a bad contract (or even a decent one that is more than one year), they effectively ruin any shot at cap space next year or the following year.

[Chinook]

What assets? I mean you can count Capela & a future first? They don't exactly have a lot of assets to offer out other than cap relief to a team looking to get out of a bad contract.

If they take on a bad contract (or even a decent one that is more than one year), they effectively ruin any shot at cap space next year or the following year.

They have New Orleans' anti-protected pick. That's a huge asset. They have picks coming up and a few young players like Terrence Jones who could facilitate a deal.

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Rose Marie

New Rochelle

[DPG21920]

They have New Orleans' anti-protected pick. That's a huge asset. They have picks coming up and a few young players like Terrence Jones who could facilitate a deal.

Well, they traded their own 2015 first rounder so that's gone. It would have to be future, future pick(s). Sure Jones is decent and Capela, but they don't seem to have a ton of assets. Plus, taking on guaranteed money hamstrings them from a cap perspective for 2-3 more years possibly.

[Mel_13]

New Rochelle

:lol

I was amazed to find out that she's still alive.

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:lol

I was amazed to find out that she's still alive.

They had her on a TV Land Awards night a few years back and she could barely walk up on the stage. "Ritchie" had to assist her.

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Well, they traded their own 2015 first rounder so that's gone. It would have to be future, future pick(s). Sure Jones is decent and Capela, but they don't seem to have a ton of assets. Plus, taking on guaranteed money hamstrings them from a cap perspective for 2-3 more years possibly.

Hey, how bout a nice ELE of a Sunday evening, Deeps?

[DPG21920]

Hey, how bout a nice ELE of a Sunday evening, Deeps?

No bets with you until you do the right thing and see to it that I'm squared up.

[sook]

Under Dirk's wing, Parsons will turn into Dirk 2.0.

[djohn2oo8]

"I viewed myself as an up and coming star in this league," Parsons said. "They were the ones that made the offer and look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority.

"I want a bigger role. (Mavericks owner) Mark Cuban and Coach (Rick) Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me and that's what I'll be in Dallas. I couldn't be more excited for the opportunity

[djohn2oo8]

^ Yeah don't need that attitude.

[djohn2oo8]

Pelicans78 Also, as far as improving his game goes, I don't think he'll really be one who can create for himself. He has to pump fake defenders most of the time to get a shot.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

"I viewed myself as an up and coming star in this league," Parsons said. "They were the ones that made the offer and look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority.

"I want a bigger role. (Mavericks owner) Mark Cuban and Coach (Rick) Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me and that's what I'll be in Dallas. I couldn't be more excited for the opportunity

He shouldn't be saying things like that while Dirk's corpse is still around. Dirk's corpse >> Parsons.

[Franklin]

Dirk is unique and Mark is fucking fooling himself to think he'll turn out to be the 2nd coming of Dirk Nowitzki tbh, still it ain't as bad as blowing your full load for Melo though.

[Franklin]

Pelicans78 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15164) Also, as far as improving his game goes, I don't think he'll really be one who can create for himself. He has to pump fake defenders most of the time to get a shot.
Truth bomb. if parsons could create shots for himself the Lockets wouldn't have to let beard nig play ISO each and every round imho. Parsons's contract will probably turn out even shittier than Rin's tbh.

[Old School 44]

I like Parsons, and no doubt he will improve the Mavs, but I do think he's overpaid. Really, the signing was really a high priced game of chicken between Cuban and Morey and Morey blinked. Parsons is just the beneficiary of these egos. I believe Parsons has the potential to be worth near max salary, but only time will tell who got the better of this deal.

[djohn2oo8]

I like Parsons, and no doubt he will improve the Mavs, but I do think he's overpaid. Really, the signing was really a high priced game of chicken between Cuban and Morey and Morey blinked. Parsons is just the beneficiary of these egos. I believe Parsons has the potential to be worth near max salary, but only time will tell who got the better of this deal.
Fegan, Parson's agent was the one who wanted the deal structured like that. Not Cuban. I really think Cuban expected them to match.

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He shouldn't be saying things like that while Dirk's corpse is still around. Dirk's corpse >> Parsons.

Dirk let The Cubes walk all over him, Parsons will have no problem.

[Old School 44]

Fegan, Parson's agent was the one who wanted the deal structured like that. Not Cuban. I really think Cuban expected them to match.

I agree. I also think Cuban expected them to match. I also think he wanted to screw Houston over by setting the price just high enough to make them pause and ask if he was really worth it, all the time still thinking the Rockets would re-sign to honor their "we will match any offer" declaration. Now that he's on the Mavs, the Mavs brass has to say, "this is the guy we wanted all along, and we got him!" regardless of the high price tag.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the loser for this FA is no other the lance....

wont get paid like parson

will get paid like ariza money or around 8m a year....

his value totally dropped faster then market crashing

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the loser for this FA is no other the lance....

wont get paid like parson

will get paid like ariza money or around 8m a year....

his value totally dropped faster then market crashing

& wait till he goes back there, sullen & lookin' for honkey lips Bird to prod & torment.

[Indazone]

Parson's is overrated.


Offensively, Parsons is a prototypical collegiate combo-forward, most known at this point for his streaky perimeter shooting. According to Synergy Sports Technology’s Statistics Database, spot-up jumpshots consisted of 35.7% of his offense. His shooting motion looks fairly good at this stage with his feet set, but his stroke loses significant accuracy when rushed or forced to pull up off the dribble. Parsons needs to work quickening the speed of his release, as his somewhat deliberate mechanics often take too long to get off. Parsons has nice touch and solid range on his perimeter shot and looks to be able to develop into a very good shooter in the future should he continue to improve on his consistency.

Elsewhere on the offensive end, Parsons is not nearly as developed. His most glaring weakness at this stage is his ball-handling ability. He dribbles the ball far too high and visibly slows down with the ball in his hands. If he could improve in this area, his offensive game looks as though it would expand significantly. He has shown the ability to get to the basket off of the dribble utilizing his solid first step, quickness, and outstanding touch around the basket, as well as flashes of a mid-range game. That being said, Parsons shows neither skill with any sort of consistency and must show such improvements during this upcoming season if he wants scouts to consider him a potential small forward at the next level. 50% of his attempts from the field currently come from beyond the arc, which tells you a bit about his mentality and polish as a slasher.

Parsons spends most of his time away from the basket, but when he decides to play in the post, he is not incredibly effective. His added bulk should help, but Parsons does not have a very advanced post arsenal outside of using his size and quickness to get around defenders to the hoop. He shows outstanding touch around the basket and does a good job positioning himself for put-backs, but expanding his post-game is another area where Parsons must improve next year, especially considering the fact that he’s one of Florida’s top returning players with any significant size.

Defensively, Parsons isn’t yet anything to write home about, but he looks to have the potential to be a solid defender in the future. Utilizing his long arms and solid lateral quickness, Parsons has the ability to guard collegiate wings. In the awareness department, Parsons has a long way to go. He gives his man too much room on the perimeter and often gives up shots because of his inability to close his man out. In the post, Parsons lacked the strength to efficiently defend his man and it remains to be seen whether or not his off-season work will positively influence his post defense, specifically his lackluster rebounding numbers.

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[Jodelo]

Weren't Rocket fans all over his nuts last season and before?

[Indazone]

Weren't Rocket fans all over his nuts last season and before?

"Most Rockets Fans"

[Indazone]

When Parson's is on, he is very very good from the outside. When he's off, he really sucks it up. He is a streaky shooter and his handles are average. He has improved to where he's a very good player but very streaky. His inside play is meh, he can't get inside and bang but that's not his job. His job is to stand outside, shoot the 3 and drive when the lane is open. He's a very good transitional player. But he's not worth the money that Cuban is paying him.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Weren't Rocket fans all over his nuts last season and before?

Should of heard them when they thought Morey was going to match Parson's offer. Did a 180 after they heard he wasn't.

[Bulaien999]

Weren't Rocket fans all over his nuts last season and before?

MVParsons, cant wait til he realizes his game came easier having harden and dwight drawing the defense attention

[Indazone]

Parsons was not exactly caught off guard when he learned the Rockets had chosen not to match the Mavericks' offer sheet.

"I'm not surprised," Parsons said. "That's up to them. At the end of the day it's a business. They have to do what's best for their future moving forward. It's out of my control. That was on them."


"I viewed myself as an up and coming star in this league," Parsons said. "They were the ones that made the offer and look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority.

"I want a bigger role. (Mavericks owner) Mark Cuban and Coach (Rick) Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me and that's what I'll be in Dallas. I couldn't be more excited for the opportunity."

And Parsons will be earning the kind of money that goes with being a star in the NBA.

"I've worked for this," Parsons said. "Nothing's been ever given to me. People always doubted me. That didn't come easy. There were a lot of ups and downs.

"Just tried to continue to prove people wrong. It's just a great feeling."

LOL He's delusional

[spurraider21]

^ Yeah don't need that attitude.
sour grapes brah. not every player is fully committed to being a talented role player for life, thats not an attitude issue :lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Rockets.

Lose Lin, Asik, Parsons and 1st round pick.

Gain Ariza and a 1st.

That's hard to swallow, you know, Cuban golden showering the Rockets this offseason. I would be hating on Parsons at this point as well (sarcasm).

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

What's so funny, look at Harden's stats before he joined Houston. The same as Parson, who had to play 3rd fiddle as well to WB and Durant. Harden's gets by most people as well by pump faking and then jumping into to draw a foul.

Rockets match, these guys would be singing his praise. He left, now they want him to fail. Natural human reaction.

[spurraider21]

i like Parsons, and i'm curious to see just how much of a leap he can make in a bigger role. spurfan always speculates what leonard would look like in a more primary role, and i'm similarly interesting in seeing an expanded role for a guy putting up numbers like parsons

[Thread]

Vanity usually proves a catastrophe, be it 6 or, this catastrophic event.

[Indazone]

Actually, Harden is overrated to. He has free reign to do whatever he wants in McHales offense while playing zero defense.

[Jodelo]

MVParsons, cant wait til he realizes his game came easier having harden and dwight drawing the defense attention

Dirk/Ellis should have more/same impact.

[elemento]

:lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7uzjyvO1O4

[spurraider21]

"Dwight Howard doesn't pay attention during his Hakeem lessons"
:lmao

[IrisHockey]

:lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7uzjyvO1O4

:lmao the fuhrer video has never been so perfectly done

[Malik Hairston]

:lol White American players..

[mavsfan1000]

Return of the Ivory towers. Van Horn, Stojakovic, and now Parsons.

[djohn2oo8]

sour grapes brah. not every player is fully committed to being a talented role player for life, thats not an attitude issue :lol
I referred to his attitude being an issue before he even signed an offer sheet. Especially after the Portland series where he declared himself the best SF in the series and then got smoked. And then when he got snubbed from Team USA in January, he publicly called it a joke. That is an attitude problem.

[Franklin]

tbh I'd rather see we sign two Monta-caliber players for 7-8m each than blow the whole money for a white dude, a rich man's Steve Novak :depressed

[djohn2oo8]

Cuban said he would have matched if he were Houston, but this is the same guy who let Nash walk for nothing and tore apart a championship squad for salary cap purposes :lol He never intended to be paying this contract.

[m>s]

:lol White American players..

bet me and big bump would own your black muslim ass

[djohn2oo8]

Also, Parsons in a bigger role, he can't take his defender one on one, and lacks dribbling skills. Also, pretty terrible rebounding rate for a SF his size. What I don't understand is how in the hell he had a worse defensive rating than Harden...

[Malik Hairston]

bet me and big bump would own your black muslim ass

:lol stop, tbh..

I'll give you baseball and golf, you guys would probably win at that, tbh..

[m>s]

:lol stop, tbh..

I'll give you baseball and golf, you guys would probably win at that, tbh..
Bump will literally dunk you into the nearest garbage can with 6'3 240lbs of pure aryan power you bootleg ass North African ass nigga

[Bulaien999]

Dirk/Ellis should have more/same impact.

Only time will tell. Just be ready for him to light it up one night and stink it up the next

[djohn2oo8]

488886544216772609

LAS VEGAS – Chandler Parsons was "offended" when the Houston Rockets went searching in free agency for a third star in LeBron James, Chris Bosh or Carmelo Anthony instead of sticking with him. Now the former Rockets forward is ecstatic to be a third star with the Dallas Mavericks, and a lot richer, too.

"Honestly, I was offended by the whole process," Parsons told Yahoo Sports on Monday in a phone interview. "They publicly said that they were going out looking for a third star when I thought they had one right in front of them. I guess that's just how they viewed me as a player. I don't think I've scratched the surface of where I can be as a player and I think I'm ready for that role.


"I'm the best recruiter in the NBA," Parsons said. "Whatever Mark and the Mavericks need, they got me to do that."


:lol Dude really thinks he's a star

[Indazone]

Parson's will produce the same numbers he did this year with the Mav's. I don't see him taking shots away from Dirk and Ellis.

[djohn2oo8]

Parson's will produce the same numbers he did this year with the Mav's. I don't see him taking shots away from Dirk and Ellis.
He got his numbers from playing in the uptempo pace. Put in a halfcourt set and see what happens.

[BatManu20]

:lol I actually like Parsons but he seems to not have very much self-awareness. Thinking he's a star player.. I mean come on man. You can be confident without being offended that your team is trying to improve by signing other players.. That's what every team is trying to do. Even when he was on with the TNT crew at the all-star break, he seemed a little odd on camera. Kinda awkward. He probably thinks he's still underpaid with this inflated contract too :lol

[mavsfan1000]

Not liking his comments. Seems he has an overinflated ego.

[Malik Hairston]

:lol somebody needs to inform Parsons that he's a White American playing in the NBA in the modern era..his odds of achieving stardom are virtually nil, tbh..

[baseline bum]

488886544216772609

LAS VEGAS – Chandler Parsons was "offended" when the Houston Rockets went searching in free agency for a third star in LeBron James, Chris Bosh or Carmelo Anthony instead of sticking with him. Now the former Rockets forward is ecstatic to be a third star with the Dallas Mavericks, and a lot richer, too.

"Honestly, I was offended by the whole process," Parsons told Yahoo Sports on Monday in a phone interview. "They publicly said that they were going out looking for a third star when I thought they had one right in front of them. I guess that's just how they viewed me as a player. I don't think I've scratched the surface of where I can be as a player and I think I'm ready for that role.


"I'm the best recruiter in the NBA," Parsons said. "Whatever Mark and the Mavericks need, they got me to do that."


:lol Dude really thinks he's a star


What a retard. They went looking for a third star because of a cap loophole that would have allowed them to sign that player and still bring Parsons back. What shit for brains that guy must have.

[100%duncan]

:lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7uzjyvO1O4


"I asked if Dirk was available as a joke, now Cuban does this.." :lmao

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

What a retard. They went looking for a third star because of a cap loophole that would have allowed them to sign that player and still bring Parsons back. What shit for brains that guy must have.

But they went looking for players at his exact position. If they signed Parsons, it was very likely they were going to trade him.

Morey needs to put down his stat book realize that numbers don't having feelings but people do. It is easy for Spurs fan b/c their front office doesn't do this kinda shit to their players. Pretty much all players that have played here have stated that the Spurs FO is straight and honest about the direction they are going with that said player.

Morey thought he could make everything work b/c of the numbers. Well, he forgot to factor Melo's wife loving New York (reason he signed their to begin with), Bosh's wife loving Miami and Parson's butthurt feelings in his derivative equation.

[djohn2oo8]

But they went looking for players at his exact position. If they signed Parsons, it was very likely they were going to trade him.

Morey needs to put down his stat book realize that numbers don't having feelings but people do. It is easy for Spurs fan b/c their front office doesn't do this kinda shit to their players. Pretty much all players that have played here have stated that the Spurs FO is straight and honest about the direction they are going with that said player.

Morey thought he could make everything work b/c of the numbers. Well, he forgot to factor Melo's wife loving New York (reason he signed their to begin with), Bosh's wife loving Miami and Parson's butthurt feelings in his derivative equation.
Parsons needs to shut the fuck up. Who in the world would be pissed that their team was going after LeBron? And They did him a favor letting him out to go get max money, and then he runs his mouth against the organization that let him do that? It seems he wanted his max money and wanted to stay. He thinks he's a star when he really isn't. And no they weren't going to trade him, they were going to go over the cap with him.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh and :lol at "best recruiter in the NBA". Dwight wasn't looking at playing in Houston the year it was just Parsons there.

[100%duncan]

Parsons is a douchebag tbh.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Parsons needs to shut the fuck up. Who in the world would be pissed that their team was going after LeBron? And They did him a favor letting him out to go get max money, and then he runs his mouth against the organization that let him do that? It seems he wanted his max money and wanted to stay. He thinks he's a star when he really isn't. And no they weren't going to trade him, they were going to go over the cap with him.

Somebody's still pissed.

[djohn2oo8]

Somebody's still pissed.
At what?

[Mel_13]

At what?

You should be pissed at Morey's spectacular failure.

[djohn2oo8]

You should be pissed at Morey's spectacular failure.
Why? Because Riley got desperate and threw Bosh an extra year?

[Mel_13]

Why? Because Riley got desperate and threw Bosh an extra year?

Because the summer was a spectacular failure.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Why? Because Riley got desperate and threw Bosh and extra year?

Just to spell it out for you...

Lost Asik, Lost Lin and a 1st rounder, Lost Parson, all of which was set in play for the Rockets to get a big name FA like Bosh or Melo and possibly still keep Parson or trade him for someone like Rondo.

All Houston got was Ariza. Talking about blowing your load prematurely. The worse FA debacle IMO this decade thus far.

[djohn2oo8]

Because the summer was a spectacular failure.
Summer isn't over yet.

[Mel_13]

Summer isn't over yet.

:lol

You're right. Maybe he'll be able to raise his grade from F to D+.

[djohn2oo8]

Just to spell it out for you...

Lost Asik, Lost Lin and a 1st rounder, Lost Parson, all of which was set in play for the Rockets to get a big name FA like Bosh or Melo and possibly still keep Parson or trade him for someone like Rondo.

All Houston got was Ariza. Talking about blowing your load prematurely. The worse FA debacle IMO this decade thus far.
They weren't getting anything back for Lin, no matter what. The pick for Asik is valuable. The mistake was not trading Parsons for Rondo last season, and the only way you match that horrendous contract is if you get Bosh or whoever, and they didn't so no reason to overpay and not be able to make any moves after. Parsons and Harden on the perimeter does not work, Ariza is the better defender and rebounder which is an upgrade since they don't have problems scoring. Lastly, Parsons was not playing another season while making less than a million. Sorry.

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[djohn2oo8]

What a retard. They went looking for a third star because of a cap loophole that would have allowed them to sign that player and still bring Parsons back. What shit for brains that guy must have.
This. I guess he didn't realize Dallas met with Melo too.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

They weren't getting anything back for Lin, no matter what. The pick for Asik is valuable. The mistake was not trading Parsons for Rondo last season, and the only way you match that horrendous contract is if you get Bosh or whoever, and they didn't so no reason to overpay and not be able to make any moves after. Parsons and Harden on the perimeter does not work, Ariza is the better defender and rebounder which is an upgrade since they don't have problems scoring. Lastly, Parsons was not playing another season while making less than a million. Sorry.

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Parson had to play no matter what. If he sat out, he would still be under contract the next season. If Morey had kept Asik, Lin, and Parson, they probably could have traded them to New York for Melo.

His first mistake, trading Asik too early, 2nd mistake not picking up Parsons, 3rd mistake giving up Lin before finalizing a deal w Bosh.

Morey f up was monumental. Ariza is like putting a bandage on an amputated arm or leg. Stops the bleeding but it doesn't make up for the losses.

Say what you want about Lin and Asik, but those two were the Rockets two best bench players last year. Not saying Parsons/Lin/Asik are as good, but based importance to each team, this is equivocal of the Spurs losing Kawhi, Manu and Diaw and getting Ariza in return. Spurs wouldn't sniff the WCF if that happened.

[djohn2oo8]

Parson had to play no matter what. If he sat out, he would still be under contract the next season. If Morey had kept Asik, Lin, and Parson, they probably could have traded them to New York for Melo.

His first mistake, trading Asik too early, 2nd mistake not picking up Parsons, 3rd mistake giving up Lin before finalizing a deal w Bosh.

Morey f up was monumental. Ariza is like putting a bandage on an amputated arm or leg. Stops the bleeding but it doesn't make up for the losses.

Say what you want about Lin and Asik, but those two were the Rockets two best bench players last year. Not saying Parsons/Lin/Asik are as good, but based importance to each team, this is equivocal of the Spurs losing Kawhi, Manu and Diaw and getting Ariza in return. Spurs wouldn't sniff the WCF if that happened.

Rockets could not finalize a deal with Bosh until they gave up Lin, they didn't have the room. Bosh gave a verbal committment and even spoke with Rockets players and coaches down to the last hour. Parsons' situation would have been ugly and played into the locker room. He most likely would have demanded a trade, and even then who will trade for a rental who is seeking a max contract and unlikely to re-sign? No one is giving up assets for that. Trading Asik too early makes no sense. He was gone anyway and they needed cap room, he should have been traded last year. CROFL Lin was not their best bench player, and Asik hardly played during the year and barely contributed. When he did play, he pouted.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Rockets could not finalize a deal with Bosh until they gave up Lin, they didn't have the room. Bosh gave a verbal committment and even spoke with Rockets players and coaches down to the last hour. Parsons' situation would have been ugly and played into the locker room. He most likely would have demanded a trade, and even then who will trade for a rental who is seeking a max contract and unlikely to re-sign? No one is giving up assets for that. Trading Asik too early makes no sense. He was gone anyway and they needed cap room, he should have been traded last year. CROFL Lin was not their best bench player, and Asik hardly played during the year and barely contributed. When he did play, he pouted.

Yes, they could, just like Gasol is finalizing his deal before the Bulls have even amnesty Boozer. They just couldn't submit it to the League office until Lin was traded and cap was cleared. Should have waited until Bosh signed the dotted line before trading Lin.

Parsons bird rights would have been traded to any team picking him up. They could have paid Parson's more than anyone and if another team wanted to overpay him, they could have just S&T traded him next year for assets as well.

Not having Asik, Morey lost a trade chip in packaging a deal for Melo. With the Knicks losing Chandler, they would have love to get Asik. Lin is a crowd favorite in New York and Parson would replace Melo at SF. Getting Parsons for a cheap contract would have been the chip in getting a team like the Knicks to take on the 15m payments own to Lin and Asik this year.

Lin and Asik proved in the Playoffs they were the Rockets best bench players. Please tell me who was better than them.

Keep on spinning this shit, but everyone knows this was an Epic Fail on Morey's part.

[Pelicans78]

Losing Lin and a later first round pick are not losses. Litte value anyway.

[Pelicans78]

Troy Daniels was clearly the Rockets best bench player in that series.

[djohn2oo8]

Yes, they could, just like Gasol is finalizing his deal before the Bulls have even amnesty Boozer. They just couldn't submit it to the League office until Lin was traded and cap was cleared. Should have waited until Bosh signed the dotted line before trading Lin.

Parsons bird rights would have been traded to any team picking him up. They could have paid Parson's more than anyone and if another team wanted to overpay him, they could have just S&T traded him next year for assets as well.

Not having Asik, Morey lost a trade chip in packaging a deal for Melo. With the Knicks losing Chandler, they would have love to get Asik. Lin is a crowd favorite in New York and Parson would replace Melo at SF. Getting Parsons for a cheap contract would have been the chip in getting a team like the Knicks to take on the 15m payments own to Lin and Asik this year.

Lin and Asik proved in the Playoffs they were the Rockets best bench players. Please tell me who was better than them.

Keep on spinning this shit, but everyone knows this was an Epic Fail on Morey's part.
Melo did not want to come here. That point is moot. Troy Daniels was the best bench player in the playoffs. Aaron Brooks was the best bench player in the regular season up until he was traded. Also, the Cavs cleared space by trading Jack to make room for LeBron. You cannot sign a max contract before clearing space.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Melo did not want to come here. That point is moot. Troy Daniels was the best bench player in the playoffs. Aaron Brooks was the best bench player in the regular season up until he was traded. Also, the Cavs cleared space by trading Jack to make room for LeBron. You cannot sign a max contract before clearing space.

Just keep on spinning this shit and digging that shit hole deeper. Pelican fans saying Daniels is the best and had only one good game out of 6.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553108
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553107
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553104
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553101
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553099
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553097

[Bulaien999]

He is setting himself up to be the scapegoat putting the pressure to be a star. If he doesn't delivery the mavs fans will eat him alive

[Thread]

He is setting himself up to be the scapegoat putting the pressure to be a star. If he doesn't delivery the mavs fans will eat him alive

Please, they've never ate a pinky off The Cubes and he told them to "get lost" when they wanted him to defend their title.

They're piss pots.

[Bulaien999]

Just keep on spinning this shit and digging that shit hole deeper. Pelican fans saying Daniels is the best and had only one good game out of 6.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553108
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553107
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553104
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553101
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553099
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400553097

He didnt played in two, I think you are trying to troll.

[POPownsJackson]

shows he played in 4 games. 1 good game and 1 decent game where he hit that savior shot i believe, but yeah he's reaching right now lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

He didnt played in two, I think you are trying to troll.

He played in 4 games. I watched every game that series. Look at this stats for Game 6 and a must win game for Houston. -13 in 9 minutes. If he is Rockets best bench player then the Rockets are in for a long season next year.



Troy Daniels (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2489530/troy-daniels), SG
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[lil_penny]

Troy didn't really play up until his game with the big shot. That was when mchale shook things up trying to find a different rotation. I think he had one other decent shooting game besides that if I remember right. I think he just needs some consistent minutes next year to be a decent bench guy.

Asik is a huge loss for them puting him up against aldridge instead of jones really did help slow him down.

Lin had some bone head turnovers that probably cost houston the series but he got to the hoop at ease and did a good job finding Dwight and daniels for his game sealer. Lin ate mo up the whole series.

Parsons has alot of potential however it's probably good morey let him walk I think ariza for cheaper is a better bang for the buck.

[Bulaien999]

He played in 4 games. I watched every game that series. Look at this stats for Game 6 and a must win game for Houston. -13 in 9 minutes. If he is Rockets best bench player then the Rockets are in for a long season next year.



Troy Daniels (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2489530/troy-daniels), SG
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You might not see much in Troy Daniels but most rockets fans I talk to see him as a rotation player this upcoming season.

[angrydude]

Just to spell it out for you...

Lost Asik, Lost Lin and a 1st rounder, Lost Parson, all of which was set in play for the Rockets to get a big name FA like Bosh or Melo and possibly still keep Parson or trade him for someone like Rondo.

All Houston got was Ariza. Talking about blowing your load prematurely. The worse FA debacle IMO this decade thus far.

All they really lost was Lin. Which in my opinion is addition by subtraction.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

You might not see much in Troy Daniels but most rockets fans I talk to see him as a rotation player this upcoming season.

I think he will be a decent player. I am disputing those that said he was the best bench player for the Rockets this playoffs, which is an entirely bogus claim to make off on one good game and completely shitting the bed in the first elimination game for Houston.

[POPownsJackson]

rockets just signed jeff adrien and some center from overseas

[SayTown]

Lol at the Houston fans that would say Parson is better than or as good Leonard, what do they say now

[POPownsJackson]

Lol at the Houston fans that would say Parson is better than or as good Leonard, what do they say now
never heard them say that

[PingPong]

LAS VEGAS – Chandler Parsons was "offended" when the Houston Rockets went searching in free agency for a third star in LeBron James, Chris Bosh or Carmelo Anthony instead of sticking with him.

"They publicly said that they were going out looking for a third star when I thought they had one right in front of them. I guess that's just how they viewed me as a player. I don't think I've scratched the surface of where I can be as a player and I think I'm ready for that role.


:lol Dude really thinks he's a star


It's just me or he thinks he is in the same league as a star like Lebron, Anthony and Bosh?

[FkLA]

Dallas would be terrifying with a point guard. they're still going to be pushing for a top 4 seed as is

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

[spurraider21]

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif
i don't think it's a stretch to say Houston got worse, Portland, Memphis, golden state didn't get better, and Dallas improved with chandler and parsons. They could overtake Houston, who FYI was in the top 4 last year

[FkLA]

Brah they were a freakin 8 seed, Dirk's defense is historically bad at this point of his career and Chandler returning to '11 form is highly unlikely. Parsons is solid but they are losing both VC and Marion. Theyll be fighting to sneak into the playoffs just like last year.

[Indazone]

What hurt the Rockets more than anything is the loss of Asik for nothing but a pick. Now how are we going to defend without that second backup Center or premium Power Forward? That's what hurts.

[mavsfan1000]

What hurt the Rockets more than anything is the loss of Asik for nothing but a pick. Now how are we going to defend without that second backup Center or premium Power Forward? That's what hurts.
Not matching hurts the most though. Now Houston will struggle offensively as well.

[djohn2oo8]

Not matching hurts the most though. Now Houston will struggle offensively as well.
No it doesn't. There was no reason to match and be capped out with Parsons not a difference maker and still no bench.

[spurraider21]

it was a tough spot. dallas was overpaying for parsons, and houston made whats probably the right move to let him walk for that amount, but there's no doubt it still hurts them for the time being

they traded asik for a pick, but then packaged a pick to go with Lin. so they basically traded Lin + Asik to move up in the draft (assuming they do better than the Hornets)

[mavsfan1000]

No it doesn't. There was no reason to match and be capped out with Parsons not a difference maker and still no bench.
They might not even make the playoffs now. The difference between Houston and Dallas is Parsons.

[djohn2oo8]

They might not even make the playoffs now. The difference between Houston and Dallas is Parsons.

lol no. When it was just Parsons on the team, they never made the playoffs. He is a nice glue guy, but not a difference maker to the point of causing the team to miss the playoffs.

[mavsfan1000]

lol no. When it was just Parsons on the team, they never made the playoffs. He is a nice glue guy, but not a difference maker to the point of causing the team to miss the playoffs.
The difference between a 4th seed and not making the playoffs in the West is Chandler Parsons.

[djohn2oo8]

The difference between a 4th seed and not making the playoffs in the West is Chandler Parsons.
Lol no once again. Parsons benefited from playing fastbreak ball, uptempo offense etc where he did not have to face double teams. Let a defense gameplan for him, no amount of pump fakes will work. And his defense was worse than Harden's last year. They got better defensively, they don't have problems scoring points.

[mavsfan1000]

Lol no once again. Parsons benefited from playing fastbreak ball, uptempo offense etc where he did not have to face double teams. Let a defense gameplan for him, no amount of pump fakes will work. And his defense was worse than Harden's last year. They got better defensively, they don't have problems scoring points.
They don't have problems scoring points with Parsons in the lineup. He is quite an efficient scorer. Their scoring will be closer to the middle of the pack next year.

[djohn2oo8]

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delusional.

[POPownsJackson]

What hurt the Rockets more than anything is the loss of Asik for nothing but a pick. Now how are we going to defend without that second backup Center or premium Power Forward? That's what hurts.

Just said they signed a center and another pf

[djohn2oo8]

I've been screaming this shit for over a season...I told them that this fucking stargazing/asset bullshit would blow up. You can't blame me.
The mistake was not trading Parsons for Rondo. Every team uses players as assets, in this case Parsons wasn't used as asset and it blew up. He was not worth matching without Bosh.

[Indazone]

Just said they signed a center and another pf

lol another Rockets retred in Joey Dorsey and an unproven Euroleague Asset.

[Indazone]

Although, this signing isn't bad.

Adrien, in particular, is a steal for the vet min. He played for both Charlotte and Milwaukee, and after arriving with the Bucks, averaged 15.6 points and 11.1 rebounds per 36 minutes, a tremendous rate. (10.9 points and 7.8 boards per game.) He's a tough defender, a monster rebounder, and carries an attitude.

[Indazone]

Now Morey needs to get a rotation guard to replace Lin

[Splits]

Why is Rocket fan ignoring the HUGE blunder of not picking up Parson's option for this season? You can make the case that not matching was the "right" choice, but you should have never been in that position in the first place unless you were 100% sure he would resign or you could pull off a S&T. Losing him as an RFA when you could have had him for under $1m for the season, and dangled him as a trade option, is criminal ineptitude.

[spurraider21]

if you weren't planning on matching worst-case-scenario offers anyway there was no point making him an RFA, when you coulda had him on the cheap this year

[POPownsJackson]

Parsons let Lillard hit that game winner, rockets dont care about him

[Clipper Nation]

Parsons let Lillard hit that game winner, rockets dont care about him
Parsons was switched on to Lillard because predictably, Harden was too lazy to play any defense....

[angrydude]

Losing VC and Marion is going to hurt the mavs a lot more than replacing Parsons with Ariza.

[sook]

The mistake was not trading Parsons for Rondo. Every team uses players as assets, in this case Parsons wasn't used as asset and it blew up. He was not worth matching without Bosh.

hindsight is 20/20. I'm not gonna bitch about it anymore tbh...what's done is done. We'll see Parsons' play next season and see if this move really did bite us in the ass or not.

[sook]

Parsons let Lillard hit that game winner, rockets dont care about him

That was Harden's fault...he called the switch. Ironic though...a guy that doesn't play defense telling other people how to defend...had to end badly.

[djohn2oo8]

Parsons was switched on to Lillard because predictably, Harden was too lazy to play any defense....

Parsons was worse on defense then Harden. But ignore the stats.

[POPownsJackson]

doesnt matter, Parsons was ON lillard before the whistle to bring the ball in and stayed on him.

[Bulaien999]

You mean didn't stay on him

[djohn2oo8]

doesnt matter, Parsons was ON lillard before the whistle to bring the ball in and stayed on him.

Yep

[djohn2oo8]

doesnt matter, Parsons was ON lillard before the whistle to bring the ball in and stayed on him.

Yep

[djohn2oo8]

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[spurraider21]

488801758861615105
:lol damn, regretting it already

[cd021]

What hurt the Rockets more than anything is the loss of Asik for nothing but a pick. Now how are we going to defend without that second backup Center or premium Power Forward? That's what hurts.

Kind of looks like Orlando again post Gortat. They need more size up front. Montiejunas and Jones aren't going to cut it.

[POPownsJackson]

You mean didn't stay on him yes lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lol damn, regretting it already

I don't think so. Basically he is saying, the Mavs got better and Houston got worse, and the extra premium to pay Parson was worth it to the Mavs. They should jump them in the standings this year.

[djohn2oo8]

I don't think so. Basically he is saying, the Mavs got better and Houston got worse, and the extra premium to pay Parson was worth it to the Mavs. They should jump them in the standings this year.

Losing Asik is a bigger loss than Parsons.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Losing Asik is a bigger loss than Parsons.

Losing all Lin, Parson and Asik combined was a huge loss for Houston.

Lin, though overpaid, still could run the offense and was an effective scorer.
Asik, Houston's best defender.
Parson, he was the Rockets best spot up shooter and quite frankly, he was the Rockets best player in this year's playoff.

All that for Ariza.

[djohn2oo8]

Losing all Lin, Parson and Asik combined was a huge loss for Houston.

Lin, though overpaid, still could run the offense and was an effective scorer.
Asik, Houston's best defender.
Parson, he was the Rockets best spot up shooter and quite frankly, he was the Rockets best player in this year's playoff.

All that for Ariza.

If he was Houston's best defender, he would have had a bigger defensive win share (impact) than Dwight, which he did not. Parsons had a lower TS% than Lin, Jones, and Jose Calderon. He took more shots than Dwight and ended up with a per of 15.9, lower than Terrence Jones, lower than Monte Ellis, and nearly identical to Calderon. Yet he played the most minutes on the team and ended up with a 15.9 per playing with two guys who attract double teams. Ariza costs 8 million, had a bigger win share than Parsons, and had a per of 15.8. So essentially, Dallas is paying a guy 15 million for a 15 PER.

[djohn2oo8]

And :lol at Parsons being their best player in the playoffs when Dwight averaged 26, 13 and 9 on 54% shooting. And the best defender in the series.

[Mori Chu]

Who cares, we're talking about a pair of first-round exit teams here (Mavs, Rockets). They both won't win shit either way.

[Double-Up]

Who cares, we're talking about a pair of first-round exit teams here (Mavs, Rockets). They both won't win shit either way.

Same with the Suns if the manage to make the playoffs...:lol

[Chinook]

And :lol at Parsons being their best player in the playoffs when Dwight averaged 26, 13 and 9 on 54% shooting. And the best defender in the series.

Howard almost averaged a triple-double?!?!

[djohn2oo8]

Who cares, we're talking about a pair of first-round exit teams here (Mavs, Rockets). They both won't win shit either way.
You shouldn't speak on these things after the way you predicted Dallas wouldn't make the playoffs.

[Kyle Orton]

Who cares, we're talking about a pair of first-round exit teams here (Mavs, Rockets). They both won't win shit either way.
Lol wrong about dem mavs time and time again

[djohn2oo8]

Howard almost averaged a triple-double?!?!
My bad. 26, and 13. Got the columns switched up.

[djohn2oo8]

Interesting tidbit. The poster is legit btw.


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