Wade's deal to start at about 15 million

[djohn2oo8]

489058822309154816

[Henrik Sedin]

Wade doesn't deserve the hate he gets, tbh.. He had an outstanding playoffs before the finals. The way SA plays defense really neutralizes his game.. He needs to just have surgery on his needs and quit being a bitch.

[baseline bum]

I feel bad for Wade, taking that paycut so Bosh could get $20.5M starting and to sign crap like Luol Deng. LeBron really fucked him over with no vaseline.

[Raven]

Wade doesn't deserve the hate he gets, tbh.. He had an outstanding playoffs before the finals. The way SA plays defense really neutralizes his game.. He needs to just have surgery on his needs and quit being a bitch.

i agree, simply put, Danny Green is a better player than him at this point, doesn't mean he can't hold the #2 spot for sgs and be productive...

[My Fault]

i agree, simply put, Danny Green is a better player than him at this point, doesn't mean he can't hold the #2 spot for sgs and be productive...
:lmao

[TE]

Wade doesn't deserve the hate he gets, tbh.. He had an outstanding playoffs before the finals. The way SA plays defense really neutralizes his game.. He needs to just have surgery on his needs and quit being a bitch.
He needs to get in shape first tbh. He was an embarrassment in the finals. How the fuck do you get your shit jacked by Verde while looking like a true TOSB? Lebron did himself a solid by leaving that sinking ship. People will follow the espn narrative that he's going back to right the ship but it's obvious he wanted a better situation going forward.

[lmbebo]

Surgery can't fix Wade.

Wade had a solid and efficient year. Not what he was in the past, but that ship as sailed for him.

As for Miami, They are going to lean on Bosh a lot more than Wade because of Wade's knee issues. Its a ton of money to throw at an aging star with knee issues, but what else could they do?

Miami will be competitive. Certainly not a championship contender.

Defense and Offensive schemes will have to change.

[Dex]

He keeps pumping that HGH and those cheeks are liable to explode.

[mavsfan1000]

Lol Miami. Paying that much for a TOSB with knee issues.

[Dex]

Lol Miami. Paying that much for a TOSB with knee issues.

:lol praying for James, Wade, and Bosh to take pay cuts so they can reload :lol

:lol losing James :lol

:lol Overpaying Bosh and Wade :lol

:lol Alpha Bosh :lol

:lol Shabazz :lol

:lol Granger :lol

:lol McBob :lol

Hard to believe that two months ago, some people were penciling this team down for another championship.

[Sportcamper]

He had an outstanding playoffs before the finals. The way SA plays defense really neutralizes his game.. He needs to just have surgery on his needs.

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/pictures/308xAny/0/0/9/1705009_confused_man_web.jpg

[Jenks]

:lmao
I don't think he's wrong if you're comparing basketball players and just not offensive playmaking ability.

Green is a specialist on offense but he's an elite 3 point shooter (at home), and has been improving his game with the ball on the floor (still not good). Wade is clearly a better playmaker and I'd agree he's still a better player on the offensive side then Green.

The other end is where you're going to lose. Green is an elite perimeter defender. Wade is a disaster who is too slow to guard anyone, and at this point doesn't even really know what the fuck he's doing out there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakSy1cO9ss

[Darth_Pelican]

Wade is a mutli-millionaire who had a great career (5 Finals, 3 Rings). I don't think he cares about winning anymore. He seems to love the Heat organization and the Miami area. If Miami is willing to overpay him, then I'm sure he will be happy to stay there and retire there.

[Thread]

Wade is a mutli-millionaire who had a great career (6 Finals, 3 Rings). I don't think he cares about winning anymore. He seems to love the Heat organization and the Miami area. If Miami is willing to overpay him, the I'm sure he will be happy to stay there and retire there.

You're much too kind. Across the nation Bryant is mirroring that protocol and he's being ripped apart and called every name in the book for it.

You can go straight to Hell and take little snot nose CN there with you.

[Darth_Pelican]

You're much too kind. Across the nation Bryant is mirroring that protocol and he's being ripped apart and called every name in the book for it.

You can go straight to Hell and take little snot nose CN there with you.

Christ Cubby, you've been so cranky since 5 happened.

[Clipper Nation]

I feel bad for Wade, taking that paycut so Bosh could get $20.5M starting and to sign crap like Luol Deng. LeBron really fucked him over with no vaseline.
No, Wade fucked himself over by opting out in the first place and by being such a lazy, washed-up TOSB in the Finals....

[Shane27]

You're much too kind. Across the nation Bryant is mirroring that protocol and he's being ripped apart and called every name in the book for it.

You can go straight to Hell and take little snot nose CN there with you.

Big difference between 15m a year and 24.5mil a year.

[Thread]

Christ Cubby, you've been so cranky since 5 happened.

What'd you expect? Happiness? Damn right I'm cranky. I ain't like the rank & file here. When something bad happens to them:::"It's good thing." "It's a blessing." "I'm really happy."

When I don't get it I don't lie. I take a fit, in private like everybody else does and in public, like nobody else does.

Culburn369

[Thread]

Big difference between 15m a year and 24.5mil a year.

As between 3 and 5 as well.

[scanry]

Wade is a mutli-millionaire who had a great career (6 Finals, 3 Rings). I don't think he cares about winning anymore. He seems to love the Heat organization and the Miami area. If Miami is willing to overpay him, the I'm sure he will be happy to stay there and retire there.

I think you reach a point where switching teams just doesn't make sense. Case in point: Dirk, Duncan.

I believe Wade's been to the finals 5 times, not 6.

[Medvedenko]

I like that "King"James leaves and this team all of the sudden becomes a lottery team. If anyone actually watched the Heat play over the last 4 years, they are more than the sum of their parts. Granted losing James is huge, but retaining Bosh and Wade, plus Granger, McBob, Rio, et al will be still be a solid team and most likely will be better than the cavs as currently constructed. Health will play a factor for sure though. As the Spurs proved, consistency and teamwork can trump "names"...no reason the Heat can't be successful.

[CavsSuperFan]

When did Josh Mc Sox become such a coveted player?
He was just terrible when he was a Lakers...Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?

[Darth_Pelican]

I think you reach a point where switching teams just doesn't make sense. Case in point: Dirk, Duncan.

I believe Wade's been to the finals 5 times, not 6.

You're right, my bad. Edited

[100%duncan]

I don't think he's wrong if you're comparing basketball players and just not offensive playmaking ability.

Green is a specialist on offense but he's an elite 3 point shooter (at home), and has been improving his game with the ball on the floor (still not good). Wade is clearly a better playmaker and I'd agree he's still a better player on the offensive side then Green.

The other end is where you're going to lose. Green is an elite perimeter defender. Wade is a disaster who is too slow to guard anyone, and at this point doesn't even really know what the fuck he's doing out there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakSy1cO9ss

Dat sig :lmao

[scanry]

What'd you expect? Happiness? Damn right I'm cranky. I ain't like the rank & file here. When something bad happens to them:::"It's good thing." "It's a blessing." "I'm really happy."

When I don't get it I don't lie. I take a fit, in private like everybody else does and in public, like nobody else does.

Culburn369

It's been a month dude. Heck even ezau is off that crack pipe. BTW aren't you a Cavs fan at heart?

[Thread]

When did Josh Mc Sox become such a coveted player?
He was just terrible when he was a Lakers...Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?

When James went home. Until that moment he was held beneath contempt.

[Thread]

It's been a month dude. Heck even ezau is off that crack pipe. BTW aren't you a Cavs fan at heart?

I never get over it.

And I never defend my fandom. It's my religion.

[Malik Hairston]

The Heat are going to be a challenger for the 6-8 seeds, but they have virtually no chance at getting past the 1st round, and anybody that thinks they will be better than Cleveland is a fucking moron:lol..

[mavsfan1000]

I like that "King"James leaves and this team all of the sudden becomes a lottery team. If anyone actually watched the Heat play over the last 4 years, they are more than the sum of their parts. Granted losing James is huge, but retaining Bosh and Wade, plus Granger, McBob, Rio, et al will be still be a solid team and most likely will be better than the cavs as currently constructed. Health will play a factor for sure though. As the Spurs proved, consistency and teamwork can trump "names"...no reason the Heat can't be successful.
:lol Idiot.

[D-Wade]

How quickly we forget but Wade looked good in the ECF against Indy (way better than last year) and through the first half of game 1 against you guys. Then he fell off like something I've never seen. I think he needs to get leaner and improve his conditioning. He had nothing left on either end. We also definitely need another 2 to shoulder some of his minutes. I don't think he holds any ill will towards James, but I think the general perception that that's all she wrote for Three will fuel him next year. Playing with the best player in the world caused some laziness and complacency, health issues aside.

He might even make Bron jump ship again when he dunks on Varejao again. Kidding on the last part


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uRN7iJ5CqQ

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lol Idiot.

Its the Eastern Conference, where anything is possible.

[D-Wade]

The Heat are going to be a challenger for the 6-8 seeds, but they have virtually no chance at getting past the 1st round, and anybody that thinks they will be better than Cleveland is a fucking moron:lol..

They can't beat the Cavs or the Bulls and shouldn't beat Indy (but who knows with that club), but everyone else is fair game. The Wizards are more talented on paper I think but they're still young even with what's left of the Truth.

[lmbebo]

I think this Heat team can still get into the top 4. Really depends on how quickly Cleveland meshes and some of there young pieces grow up. Indiana and Chicago are wild cards. What kind of changes will Indiana make? Chicago - what will Derrick Rose return as? Will he stay healthy?

Toronto make things difficult in the east. Washington will be competitive. Brooklyn will slide. New York, not sure, probably not much better. I think Charlotte has improved some.

I think the east teams are still, overall, weaker than the west. But there will be more parity between the east teams. Last season you arguably had Miami and Indiana on top, then everyone else. As the season bore out, Indiana really took a step back and fell into the ECF.... I think this season, you won't have any true great teams in the east. Its good for competition.

[Malik Hairston]

They can't beat the Cavs or the Bulls and shouldn't beat Indy (but who knows with that club), but everyone else is fair game. The Wizards are more talented on paper I think but they're still young even with what's left of the Truth.

One of the major problems with the Heat is that they're going to continue resting Wade during the regular season, and they don't have a suitable backup or alternative options..this is going to cost them regular season matchups, so there's a good chance they're going to finish 6-7-8 and get Cleveland or Chicago in the 1st round, tbh..

Then there's the obvious adjustment of re-shaping the entire system..Miami is going to overhaul the entire system, as they don't have anybody that can run their spacing/corner 3s system like LeCoon did..then there's the addition of Deng, an ISO-oriented wing scorer that isn't a playmaker, which is a tough style of play to incorporate in your system that emphasizes ball-movement/open 3s..

[moisaenz]

You're much too kind. Across the nation Bryant is mirroring that protocol and he's being ripped apart and called every name in the book for it.

You can go straight to Hell and take little snot nose CN there with you.

For once I agree with thread

[RsxPiimp]

No, Wade fucked himself over by opting out in the first place and by being such a lazy, washed-up TOSB in the Finals....

Truth. No one forced his ass to opt out. He's expected to make a grown man move and he did. Blame is on him.

[ducks]

I think heat will surprise some people they will be close or pat riley will try to do trades and get them to contend
can bosh be the main guy not the 3 wheel like he was?
heat are going to try to prove next year that they are good and can win without james
all the players relied on james to much and the coach did to
without james bailing everyone out who knows what they will do east is wide open

[Darth_Pelican]

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11218554/dwyane-wade-agrees-long-term-contract-miami-heat

Dwyane Wade staying with Heat

Updated: July 15, 2014, 2:29 PM ET
By Brian Windhorst (http://search.espn.go.com/brian-windhorst/) | ESPN.com

Dwyane Wade (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1987/dwyane-wade) has agreed to a new long-term contract with the Miami Heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mia/miami-heat) and is expected to finalize it as early as Tuesday, sources told ESPN.com.
Wade took to Twitter on Tuesday to announce the agreement:

With the Heat's recent moves, including getting commitments from Chris Bosh (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1977/chris-bosh), Luol Deng (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2429/luol-deng) and Chris Andersen (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1135/chris-andersen) and signing Josh McRoberts (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3220/josh-mcroberts), Mario Chalmers (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3419/mario-chalmers) and Danny Granger (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2760/danny-granger), the Heat have positioned themselves to give Wade a contract that starts at about $15 million per season. Wade is expected to sign for up to four years.
Wade played just 54 regular-season games last season as he dealt with various knee injuries and the Heat often held him out to rest him. He averaged 19 points, 4.5 rebounds and 4.7 assists on a career-high 55 percent shooting. He averaged 17.8 points during the playoffs.
Wade is taking roughly a $5 million pay cut from the two years and $42 million he opted out of to become a free agent last month. He will make it up by getting more long-term money.
His pay cut, the second time in his career he's taken less to help the Heat, helped free up money to give Bosh a full five-year, $118 million max contract and Deng a two-year $20 million deal.

[Infinite_limit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnOlw8HdVIw

[kamikazi_player]

i agree, simply put, Danny Green is a better player than him at this point, doesn't mean he can't hold the #2 spot for sgs and be productive...
are you fucking retarded? If all 30 teams had to choose between Danny Green and Wade at this point, I bet all 30 of them would pick Wade.

[Holden_Caulfield]

aww cant sign lebron when he becomes a free agent again :lol

[Raven]

are you fucking retarded? If all 30 teams had to choose between Danny Green and Wade at this point, I bet all 30 of them would pick Wade.

why couldn't he play against him then?

[Trainwreck2100]

I wonder if its a front loaded contract like splitters

[poeticism707]

:lol praying for James, Wade, and Bosh to take pay cuts so they can reload :lol

:lol losing James :lol

:lol Overpaying Bosh and Wade :lol

:lol Alpha Bosh :lol

:lol Shabazz :lol

:lol Granger :lol

:lol McBob :lol

Hard to believe that two months ago, some people were penciling this team down for another championship.

:rollin:rollin:rollin

Wade shouldn't have gotten a penny more than 7m a year!

Bosh shouldn't have gotten a dollar over 11m per year!

Should have let them both walk,

and rebuild, dummies!:rollin

As soon as Lebron left,

should have been all hardball from there.

The Heat will be lucky to get

the 5th seed,

IN THE EAST,

WITH BOSH AND WADE

AS 1A AND 1B!:rollin

[~O~]

He should have gotten 7 to 10..but its whatever. The Miami Heat are done with what they offered Bosh. Its like they're not cutting themselves so deep the second time..but still cutting themselves none the less.

[TXstbobcat]

I know that wade made his own decision to opt out of the $40 million over 2 years but The heat completely fucked him over. So much for sacrificing for the good of the team.

[dunkman]

Wade's game and LeBron's overlaps, Wade will take more FGA this season, while Deng will get more a more defensive role in that team with Bosh being the franshise player. I don't think they will slip in the regular season, but may have difficulty advancing in the playoffs as Wade is past his prime and Bosh isn't unstoppable.

[RsxPiimp]

Update
2 yr $31 mil

[RsxPiimp]

Update
2 yr $31 mil

[m>s]

anything over 1 year and they're overpaying him at that point

[RsxPiimp]

windhorstESPN: Wade took about an $11 million reduction in guaranteed money over 2 years after opting out. Rollback made it possible to sign Luol Deng.

[m>s]

4 years????????? insanity at that price....wow. they'll get one year of decent production and 3 years of ridicule.

[RsxPiimp]

2 yrs brah

[ElNono]

Not unexpected. That's what I figured a discount would look like for him (in the 4/$60m range)... Wade is the franchise there, he played for them his entire career, won the only 3 rings they have, they'll take care of him...

[ElNono]

It is two years, 2nd year player option.

[m>s]

Wade a contract that starts at about $15 million per season. Wade is expected to sign for up to four years.

i was talking about this quote but i guess 2 years sounds a lot better

[cd021]

Over 74 games (including the playoffs) , he averaged 18.7 ppg, and shot 52% FG

when he did play (save for the Finals) he efficiency was ridiculous. 19 ppg on 54% in the regular season.

two years at $30+ million isn't bad at all considering the rising cap will take any sting out of the contract.

[m>s]

^while deferring to lebron. he won't be that efficient as their #1 go to option on offense imho. a year older too.

[cd021]

He should have gotten 7 to 10..but its whatever. The Miami Heat are done with what they offered Bosh. Its like they're not cutting themselves so deep the second time..but still cutting themselves none the less.

19 ppg,54% FG, 4.7 RPG, 4.3 APG 22.0 P.E.R over 54 games in the regular season

(his ECF numbers was identical to his regular season average as well)

no way he deserves less than 12 million per year.

[cd021]

^while deferring to lebron. he won't be that efficient as their #1 go to option on offense imho. a year older too.

Sure, but it not like he last year was out of character, he was always one of the more efficient guards in the league. PG play is going to be much more important this time around without Lebron but its not like his shooting % is going to nose dive. He actually left points on the table with such a poor FT% (73.6) he should be at about 17 ppg next year IMO. Bosh can score 20 a game and Deng around 15 ppg. The key is how productive the rotation players are going to be. They need a couple of guys that can put up 10+ per game.

His rookie year was his worst at 46.5% FG , still very solid) he hasn't shot below 47% in 6 years. He has also cut down on his 3pt attempts attempted .6 per game. He doesn't take shots that he knows he can't make which is a rarity nowadays.

He will be 33 and has a history with bad knees, that's always a concern but when he does play, he is still very good.

[~O~]

Lets see how his numbers stand without playing off LeBron.

[RsxPiimp]

If healthy, him Bosh will see a rise in numbers. That's going to be a given.

[TDMVPDPOY]

opting out and signin this deal fail

40/2, after 2 seasons whose to say he cant get more then 20m for final paycheck contract?

[My Fault]

I don't think he's wrong if you're comparing basketball players and just not offensive playmaking ability.

Green is a specialist on offense but he's an elite 3 point shooter (at home), and has been improving his game with the ball on the floor (still not good). Wade is clearly a better playmaker and I'd agree he's still a better player on the offensive side then Green.

The other end is where you're going to lose. Green is an elite perimeter defender. Wade is a disaster who is too slow to guard anyone, and at this point doesn't even really know what the fuck he's doing out there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakSy1cO9ss
Youtube takes...

For what Green brings, at his salary, I'm glad we have him but to say he is better than Wade is idiotic. Wade is breaking down but even then he put up numbers Green would NEVER put up as a 1st or 2nd option. Show me numbers..


Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.

[spurraider21]

so basically wade opted out of 2 years 42 mil to get 2 years 30 mil? k...

[djohn2oo8]

lol no trade clause

[spurraider21]

Youtube takes...

For what Green brings, at his salary, I'm glad we have him but to say he is better than Wade is idiotic. Wade is breaking down but even then he put up numbers Green would NEVER put up as a 1st or 2nd option. Show me numbers..

Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.
i'd take Green at 4 mil over Wade at 15 mil seven days a week and twice on sundays

[Jenks]

Youtube takes...
You mean finals footage?


Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.
Incredibly wrong.

Green: 98
Wade: 120

I mean holy fuck, hilariously wrong.

[My Fault]

You mean finals footage?
Wade was broken down by then and it's a small sample compared to amount games you need win to get there. He was playing really well before then.





Incredibly wrong.

Green: 98
Wade: 120

I mean holy fuck, hilariously wrong.

Don't know where you got your numbers, but I just looked it up on basketball reference and I stand corrected. Green is 101 and Wade 106.


Either way this wasn't about defense. If you put Green in Wade's position, he wouldn't put anything close on the other end. Wade is a bitch, one of the biggest pussies in the league but even at this point in his career he is better than Green.

[My Fault]

i'd take Green at 4 mil over Wade at 15 mil seven days a week and twice on sundays

Never said otherwise. Just saying if you weren't looking at salaries and just playing a game of pick up basketball, you would pick Wade over Green.

[Jenks]

Either way this wasn't about defense.
Move dem goalposts.

I said Wade is a better offensive player. This is only about defense, or you started arguing with the wrong person.

Wade played really well against the Bobcats and Wizards. Whoopty-fucking-do. "He was broken down by then" No, he finally faced a decent opponent and he was exposed as a pile of washed up shit (on defense).

[My Fault]

Move dem goalposts.

I said Wade is a better offensive player. This is only about defense, or you started arguing with the wrong person.

Wade played really well against the Bobcats and Wizards. Whoopty-fucking-do. "He was broken down by then" No, he finally faced a decent opponent and he was exposed as a pile of washed up shit (on defense).
The post you responded to was about who the better player is. Bobcats were 4th in defense and the Pacers, who seemed to have forgot about, were 2nd.

The Spurs exposed that entire team and it's defensive scheme.

[Jenks]

The post you responded to was about who the better player is. Bobcats were 4th in defense and the Pacers who seemed to have forgot were 2nd.
Oh ok, Wade had a better D rating than Green, finals footage is to be dismissed as "youtube takes," and the Heat had a difficult road to the finals. Those are your arguments. Mmmhmmm, thanks I'll meditate on this new knowledge I've gained. Well played, you are a fount of basketball insight.

[My Fault]

Oh ok, Wade had a better D rating than Green, finals footage is to be dismissed as "youtube takes," and the Heat had a difficult road to the finals. Those are your arguments. Mmmhmmm, thanks I'll meditate on this new knowledge I've gained. Well played, you are a fount of basketball insight.
Picking and choosing.

[Jenks]

Picking and choosing.
Shit on everything you said dude. I'm sorry.

[My Fault]

Shit on everything you said dude. I'm sorry.
Except the whole point I making. See below...


i agree, simply put, Danny Green is a better player than him at this point, doesn't mean he can't hold the #2 spot for sgs and be productive...


:lmao

Should help you follow along.

[Jenks]

Except the whole point I making. See below...
Saw below, shat on it. "Youtube takes" ;)

[My Fault]

Saw below, shat on it. "Youtube takes" ;)
Wait so you don't think Green is simply just better on D but actually better overall? :lol

[Jenks]

Wait so you don't think Green is simply just better on D but actually better overall? :lol
Holy fuck

Is English your first language? Or are you drunk and/or retarded?

[My Fault]

Holy fuck

Is English your first language? Or are you drunk and/or retarded?
Just giving you too much credit apparently. :lol


Defense is one thing but you don't win without points and on the end Wade is another level better. Show me YouTube takes, numbers or anything proving otherwise.

[Jenks]

Just giving you too much credit apparently. :lol


Defense is one thing but you don't win without points and on the end Wade is another level better. Show me YouTube takes, numbers or anything proving otherwise.You'd make a great GM. :lol Gotta get dem points! The other end will take care of itself!

[My Fault]

You'd make a great GM. :lol Gotta get dem points! The other end will take care of itself!

When did I say defense didn't matter? Picking and choosing...

The gap between the two on D isn't as big as it is on the other end. You started so well..

[Jenks]

The gap between the two on D isn't as big as it is on the other end.
You're either mistaking Wade as still being an elite top 10 scorer & playmaker, or as someone who isn't a complete shitbag on defense.
How do the win shares vs Green for the playoffs look? Offense, defense? How about per minute?
Next year he'll be another year older, and won't have one of the best wing defenders playing next to him anymore. It's gonna be a fucking mess. He'll still score and sometimes look good doing it, so you and ESPN can pretend he's still 2008 Wade.

[My Fault]

You're either mistaking Wade as still being an elite top 10 scorer & playmaker, or as someone who isn't a complete shitbag on defense.
How do the win shares vs Green for the playoffs look? Offense, defense? How about per minute?
Next year he'll be another year older, and won't have one of the best wing defenders playing next to him anymore. It's gonna be a fucking mess. He'll still score and sometimes look good doing it, so you and ESPN can pretend he's still 2008 Wade.

Now we're predicting the future? Are you going back anything you say?

[Jenks]

Are you going back anything you say?
So I was right about English not being your first language it seems.

[My Fault]

So I was right about English not being your first language it seems.

Or obviously you don't have anything to back your stupidity. Numbers and a link backing them, is that too hard for you to understand?

[Jenks]

Or obviously you don't have anything to back your stupidity. Numbers and a link backing them, is that too hard for you to understand?
Guy, I've posted numbers and video. The only numbers you've posted were that Wade had a better D Rating than Green which was completely fucking incorrect (and retarded to even believe possible). You look like a moron right now scrambling to save face and failing.



Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.
:lol

[My Fault]

Guy, I've posted numbers and video. The only numbers you've posted were that Wade had a better D Rating than Green which was completely fucking incorrect (and retarded to even believe possible). You look like a moron right now scrambling to save face and failing.


:lol
The numbers you posted were completely off and you never admitted the source, I admitted to being wrong but the numbers I pulled (which I sourced) showed it wasn't that big of a gap. You posted a video of the Spurs offense doing what it was meant to do, get guys out of position through ball movement. We've made it clear that we are talking overall, yet you've done nothing but hang on to that slight edge Green had on D. So either you you're to stupid to understand what overall means or picking and choosing just to hold on to one thing you've been right about. Again we are talking overall, both ends of the court and more than just one series.

You can just stop posting now because until you post numbers that shows Green is a better player than Wade (overall not just on defense) then you've lost here. I told you I went to basketball reference, your turn.

[My Fault]

The idea that you think Green would put up better numbers than Wade if they switched positions is hilariously retarded.

It's like saying Green is better than Harden because he's so superior on defense.

[Jenks]

The numbers you posted were completely off and you never admitted the sourcethey're actually not off, they're the defensive ratings for Green and Wade in the series we were discussing. Feel free to look up the finals numbers to verify.


yet you've done nothing but hang on to that slight edge Green had on D.:lmao

[My Fault]

they're actually not off, they're the defensive ratings for Green and Wade in the series we were discussing. Feel free to look up the finals numbers to verify.


Except for the fact we are not discussing that series, we are talking overall. :lol Your reading comprehension fails you.


i agree, simply put, Danny Green is a better player than him at this point, doesn't mean he can't hold the #2 spot for sgs and be productive...


:lmao

Again, should help you follow along...

:lmao Using 5 games to state the case of who the better player
:lmao Thinking Green is anything more than a role player playing well within his role.
:lmao Doesn't understand what overall player means

:cry but he was better defensively for 5 games :cry

[My Fault]

The idea that you think switching out Danny fucking Green who was barely an NBA player, before the Spurs fixed his shooting stroke, is better than Dwyane Wade is one of the stupidest things I've seen posted here. For the Spurs system and salary I would take Green over Wade but only for those reasons.

I know Wade (although I don't the guy) is better than Green and using 5 games to judge otherwise is cherry picking.

I will bookmark this thread and you should do the same, next year we will see who bumps this. Considering you didn't join here until the Spurs were successful, I doubt you'll stick around anyways.

[Jenks]

Except for the fact we are not discussing that series, we are talking overall.
Maybe you should watch those "youtube takes" again, dipshit :lol

Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.:lol

[My Fault]

Maybe you should watch those "youtube takes" again, dipshit :lol
:lol

I get it now, looking at that join date explains it all...

:lol Bandwagon Spurs fan

You know there are more games played than the finals, right?

[Jenks]

I get it now, looking at that join date explains it all...

:lol Bandwagon Spurs fan

You know there are more games played than the finals, right?
Oh boy, join date on internet forum = first day as a Spurs fan :lol
Grasping at straws now

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol is someone really saying Green > Wade?

[Jenks]

:lol is someone really saying Green > Wade?
Yes, that's how atrocious Wade's D has become.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Yes, that's how atrocious Wade's D has become.

:lol and enlighten me on what Green's "offense" is?

[My Fault]

Oh boy, join date on internet forum = first day as a Spurs fan :lol
Grasping at straws now
Just pointing out how hilariously convenient that join date is and how I can see the correlation of that and the fact you seen to think the finals is all the basketball played.

[Jenks]

:lol and enlighten me on what Green's "offense" is?
Stand in the corner and drain 3's.
(Unless Wade is guarding him, then he becomes Tony Parker)
Green's not close to Wade on offense, but he's not a waste either. The difference on the other end is bigger, where Wade is a complete waste. Then factor in health / probability of playing over 60 (or even 50) games next year. Subtract endorsements and ESPN highlights if were factoring in those. Not seeing where the confusion is. Did you see Wade try to guard Stephenson in the ECF games 1 and 2? Yikes. Fortunately Spo found somewhere else to hide him, which he couldn't do in the finals.

[Jenks]

Just pointing out how hilariously convenient that join date is and how I can see the correlation of that and the fact you seen to think the finals is all the basketball played.Awesome strawman. I was discussing the finals, so apparently i think the finals is all the basketball that's played. k

[My Fault]

:lol and enlighten me on what Green's "offense" is?
It's pointless, he uses very small samples and one end of the ball to make his case. Doesn't seem to understand that there is much more to the game.

[My Fault]

Awesome strawman. I was discussing the finals, so apparently i think the finals is all the basketball that's played. k

We're discussing overall who is the better player and you're talking about 5 games and forgetting about the other 82 plus games played, talk about straws.. :lol

[Jenks]

We're discussing overall who is the better player and you're talking about 5 games and forgetting about the other 82 plus games played, talk about straws.. :lol
You don't even know what a strawman is, or that the lower number is better for defensive rating for that matter.


yet you've done nothing but hang on to that slight edge Green had on D.

The gap between the two on D isn't as big as it is on the other end.

Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.

Youtube takes...

So much fail :lol

What did you think of Wade's D on Stephenson?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You don't even know what a strawman is, or that the lower number is better for defensive rating for that matter.


Green is not a better player. He cannot dribble or anything.



So much fail :lol

What did you think of Wade's D on Stephenson?

[My Fault]

You don't even know what a strawman is, or that the lower number is better for defensive rating for that matter.






So much fail :lol

What did you think of Wade's D on Stephenson?

Keep sticking to that end, ignore everything else. You're doing well :lol

[Jenks]

Keep sticking to that end, ignore everything else. You're doing well :lol
Noticed you didn't answer :lol

[My Fault]

Noticed you didn't answer :lol
Following your lead...

Lance had one good game and one decent out of 6...

[My Fault]

Has Green ever taken over a game? Ever?

[Jenks]

Has Green ever taken over a game? Ever?
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/11/4421480/2013-nba-finals-spurs-vs-heat-game-3-score-results

Hey look, I answered a question. Now you're turn.
What did you think of Wade's D on Stephenson?

[My Fault]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/11/4421480/2013-nba-finals-spurs-vs-heat-game-3-score-results

Hey look, I answered a question. Now you're turn.
What did you think of Wade's D on Stephenson?
Hitting open shots out of the system is taking over a game??? :lmao Boy you're stupid


Lance:

Game 1 17pts
Game 2 25pts
Game 3 10pts
Game 4. 9pts
Game 5 10pts
Game 6 11pts


You tell me...

[Jenks]

Lance:

Game 1 17pts
Game 2 25pts
Game 3 10pts
Game 4. 9pts
Game 5 10pts
Game 6 11pts


You tell me...Game 1&2, guarded by Wade
Rest of series, guarded by Norris "Tony Allen" Cole
:lmao

gg friend, this was a fun exercise. Some of us watch the games.

[My Fault]

Game 1&2, guarded by Wade
Rest of series, guarded by Norris "Tony Allen" Cole
:lmao

gg friend, this was a fun exercise. Some of us watch the games.
:lol Says the guy who thinks Green is better than Wade. Nice job at spinning this back to defense, once again ignoring the other side and other games played. Thinking hitting open shots created by others is taking over a game :lmao

[Jenks]

yet you've done nothing but hang on to that slight edge Green had on D.

The gap between the two on D isn't as big as it is on the other end.

Wade still had a better defensive rating btw.

Youtube takes...

Lance:


Game 1 17pts
Game 2 25pts
Game 3 10pts
Game 4. 9pts
Game 5 10pts
Game 6 11pts
Hall of fame posts imo

[ManuTastic]

So Wade tears up $42 mil/2 yrs to bring Bron back. Bron walks. Wade signs for 2 yrs/$31 mil, on a team that has no more Bron. That's $11 mil loss, and prob no more Finals. Bet he's loving Bron these days, amirite?

[Malik Hairston]

Green obviously isn't nearly as talented as Wade, but that's not really how team basketball is judged, tbh..

Of course Wade is a "better" player, but he can only play 1 role, which is being one of the top 2 options on your team..he can play well off the ball, but his primary strength is scoring and occasionally creating..

The question is whether you would rather have Wade as one of your top 2(or even top 3, I suppose) players or Green as one of your top 2 or 3 role players on the team..in that case, it's Green and it probably isn't even close IMO..

Wade has way too much baggage to be a top option on a contender nowadays(needs to rest excessively, doesn't play defense anymore, and he can't shoot, which is difficult to pull off in today's NBA)..