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Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:36 PM
Fucking sign Lance Stephenson and get it over already....Lamarcus is resigning with Portland and who the fuck knows what Love will do..that's it in terms of big names on the Market...surely Mitch and Fredo aren't that fucking stupid to be waiting on 2015 so they can swing and miss again like they did in 2014.....they fucked up big time by passing on Parsons and now another young stud that was the only reason Indiana looked respectable against Miami is on the clock...what will the Lakers do....don't tell me we're gonna keep chasing pipe dreams with the Cap flexibility bullshit while Kobe's time is winding down...Lance is a stud and shot 50% from the field last season...who fucking shoots 50% as a combo guard, and can play small forward and can defend.....Lakers are fucking MORONS if they pass up on Lance....got dam Mitch you can't possible be this gotdam stupid.... Lance, Kobe, an Lin would be a pretty unguardable since Lance can shoot and drive and handle really handle the ball. Lin can penetrate with the best of em and well Kobe is Kobe....I hope Fredo puts down that pipe for just one min...and really think about this...

Kool Bob Love
07-15-2014, 06:37 PM
Who's coaching?

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:39 PM
Any coach not named after food....Wont be potato head or pringles...even though Byron Scott does look like the black version of a pringles man with that porn stash he's rocking

midnightpulp
07-15-2014, 06:39 PM
Fucking sign Lance Stephenson and get it over already....Lamarcus is resigning with Portland and who the fuck knows what Love will do..that's it in terms of big names on the Market...surely Mitch and Fredo aren't that fucking stupid to be waiting on 2015 so they can swing and miss again like they did in 2014.....they fucked up big time by passing on Parsons and now another young stud that was the only reason Indiana looked respectable against Miami is on the clock...what will the Lakers do....don't tell me we're gonna keep chasing pipe dreams with the Cap flexibility bullshit while Kobe's time is winding down...Lance is a stud and shot 50% from the field last season...who fucking shoots 50% as a combo guard, and can play small forward and can defend.....Lakers are fucking MORONS if they pass up on Lance....got dam Mitch you can't possible be this gotdam stupid.... Lance, Kobe, an Lin would be a pretty unguardable since Lance can shoot and drive and handle really handle the ball. Lin can penetrate with the best of em and well Kobe is Kobe....I hope Fredo puts down that pipe for just one min...and really think about this...

You're capped out, Kool.

No more signings aside from minimum salaries. Lakers strategy is to tank hard this season and try to make a splash in free agency in 2015, 16, etc.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:40 PM
You're capped out, Kool.

No more signings aside from minimum salaries. Lakers strategy is to tank hard this season and try to make a splash in free agency in 2015, 16, etc.


We're not capped out...stretch Nash and sign Lance....we can afford to slightly go over the cap...it's not a hard cap

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 06:42 PM
We're not capped out...stretch Nash and sign Lance....we can afford to slightly go over the cap...it's not a hard cap
you don't know how the salary cap works. stretching nash gives you 6 mil more in cap space, give or take. lance isn't taking 6 mil. he turned down 9 from indiana

~O~
07-15-2014, 06:43 PM
Erm...people?

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:43 PM
2016 is the year Durant is available that's more realistic than to even be worried about Cap Flexibility for 15....Sign Bynum and Lance and we're set to make a run...the Rockets dropped themselves to 7-8 or seed and will be battling it out with the Lakers..if Kobe comes back to form Lakers will be shooting for the 6th spot

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:45 PM
you don't know how the salary cap works. stretching nash gives you 6 mil more in cap space, give or take. lance isn't taking 6 mil. he turned down 9 from indiana

it dosen't matter we can sign Lance despite cap rules....we're offering Gasol 2 yrs and 20 before he left..the cap is not a hard cap

midnightpulp
07-15-2014, 06:47 PM
We're not capped out...stretch Nash and sign Lance....we can afford to slightly go over the cap...it's not a hard cap

Can't, bro. You have to have Lance's Bird rights to do so.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:48 PM
Can't, bro. You have to have Lance's Bird rights to do so.

tickle my ass mid...before I hit the Cali dro...how can we make this work...tell me anything even if it's lie....tickle my ass you bastard :lol

Infinite_limit
07-15-2014, 06:50 PM
tickle my ass mid...before I hit the Cali dro...how can we make this work...tell me anything even if it's lie....tickle my ass you bastard :lol
Kobe suicide bombed the Lake Show

midnightpulp
07-15-2014, 06:50 PM
tickle my ass mid...before I hit the Cali dro...how can we make this work...tell me anything even if it's lie....tickle my ass you bastard :lol

Trade Nash for Lance, which we know Indiana won't do.

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 06:52 PM
it dosen't matter we can sign Lance despite cap rules....we're offering Gasol 2 yrs and 20 before he left..the cap is not a hard cap
thats because Pau was YOUR free agent. the official term is "bird rights" but thats essentially what it means. you are always allowed to exceed the cap to resign players when you have their bird rights. its why kobe got his retarded contract even though u were over the cap at the time. you got that because pau had played for your team for 3 seasons

xellos88330
07-15-2014, 06:52 PM
Well, to put it bluntly...... this is probably vengeance on Kobe for running out Shaq, Howard, Gasol with his "competitiveness" which is more similar to being a fucking prick than anything else. Every single one of those players were the catalysts for their respective teams before joining the Lakers. Gasol is now a shell of his former self, Howard quit after 1 season, and Shaq won another ring without him.

The problem is and always has been Kobe. They are probably going to deny him an opportunity at winning because they are waiting to make a big splash after he retires.

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 06:53 PM
They're always aiming for bigger stars. Time Warner did not agree to a $3.6 billion dollar deal to broadcast Stephenson. This is also the reason why Fredo overpaid to keep Kobe once Dwight left for Houston.



They have three expirings this year worth approximately $27 million and they will go after an All Star next year or hope another disgruntled star asks for a trade. It's pretty obvious they are going to overpay Deandre or Marc and slowly work that roster before they pitch to Durant in 2016.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:54 PM
Trade Nash for Lance, which we know Indiana won't do.

not true mid..I found someone online who gave me hope....

Here's his take:

Can the Lakers sign Lance Stephenson?

The simply answer is yes. By promising contracts to Jordan Hill and Nick Young, but not actually signing the deals and making them binding, the Lakers still have about $6.8M in cap space to work with after the Jeremy Lin trade. The Lakers can always go over the luxury tax to re-sign their own players, assuming they don’t renounce their rights, which the Lakers won’t do. Meanwhile, the Lakers can open up another $6M this season by using the stretch provision on Steve Nash (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-finish-line-episode-2-steve-nash-and-the-stretch-provision/).

Let’s assume that the Lakers use the stretch provision on Nash. That means that the Lakers will have about $12M in cap space, before signing Hill and Young. Would Stephenson accept a 2-year deal with the Lakers for $22-24M? Would the Lakers be willing to go over the salary cap and potentially go into the luxury tax for Lance Stephenson?

All I know is that if the Lakers have any interest in salvaging their 2014-2015 season they must consider signing Lance Stephenson. If they’re not interested in competing next season and they’re simply looking to acquire assets for 2015 and 2016 then by all means they should continue doing what they’re doing. Lance Stephenson comes at a cost. But so does losing. It’s your choice Mitch. Time to put your cards on the table.

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 06:55 PM
face it Koolaid_Man (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19058), its gna be the same shit every summer till kobe calls it quits. they're gna do nothing and try to sign a max free agent. every summer. and when they strike out, like they have for the past 2 years, its gna be tank city

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 06:55 PM
Which leads me to believe Kobe will also not retire a Laker...

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 06:58 PM
face it Koolaid_Man (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19058), its gna be the same shit every summer till kobe calls it quits. they're gna do nothing and try to sign a max free agent. every summer. and when they strike out, like they have for the past 2 years, its gna be tank city

we can offer lance 12 mill if we make the contracts of Jordan Hill and Nick Young binding, stretch Nash and sign Lance first... I told mid where there's a will there's a way :lol

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 06:58 PM
:lol lakers aren't going into the tax to pick up stephenson... they amnestied MWP last summer just to save pocket money. plus picking up Lance goes against the tank plan. the Lakers only keep their draft pick if its a top 5 pick. otherwise it goes to phoenix.

RD2191
07-15-2014, 06:59 PM
Does it matter? Lance isn't gonna push them into contender status. They'd be fighting for the 8th seed with Lance.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:00 PM
lance would shit all over over Manu

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:00 PM
we can offer lance 12 mill if we make the contracts of Jordan Hill and Nick Young binding, stretch Nash and sign Lance first... I told mid where there's a will there's a way :lol
IF the lakers did pick up Lance (they won't for the reasons in my previous post) for 12 mil a year, they're fucked. next summer he and Kobe are gna combine for 37 mil if thats the case. on top of Hill/Young/Randle thats 54 million for those 5 guys... giving you no hope of landing a star next summer, meaning ud have a 3rd straight shitty year

midnightpulp
07-15-2014, 07:02 PM
not true mid..I found someone online who gave me hope....

Here's his take:

Can the Lakers sign Lance Stephenson?



The simply answer is yes. By promising contracts to Jordan Hill and Nick Young, but not actually signing the deals and making them binding, the Lakers still have about $6.8M in cap space to work with after the Jeremy Lin trade. The Lakers can always go over the luxury tax to re-sign their own players, assuming they don’t renounce their rights, which the Lakers won’t do. Meanwhile, the Lakers can open up another $6M this season by using the stretch provision on Steve Nash (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-finish-line-episode-2-steve-nash-and-the-stretch-provision/).

Let’s assume that the Lakers use the stretch provision on Nash. That means that the Lakers will have about $12M in cap space, before signing Hill and Young. Would Stephenson accept a 2-year deal with the Lakers for $22-24M? Would the Lakers be willing to go over the salary cap and potentially go into the luxury tax for Lance Stephenson?

All I know is that if the Lakers have any interest in salvaging their 2014-2015 season they must consider signing Lance Stephenson. If they’re not interested in competing next season and they’re simply looking to acquire assets for 2015 and 2016 then by all means they should continue doing what they’re doing. Lance Stephenson comes at a cost. But so does losing. It’s your choice Mitch. Time to put your cards on the table.

Could work, but from what I'm hearing, Mitch wants as much cap flexibility as possible for next season. Stretching Nash and then signing Lance puts another unneeded 15 million cap hit for next year.

It's not worth it for Lance. He isn't a cornerstone player.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:03 PM
IF the lakers did pick up Lance (they won't for the reasons in my previous post) for 12 mil a year, they're fucked. next summer he and Kobe are gna combine for 37 mil if thats the case. on top of Hill/Young/Randle thats 54 million for those 5 guys... giving you no hope of landing a star next summer, meaning ud have a 3rd straight shitty year

If we sign Lance and Kobe is back to form we compete for top 6 teams in the West...Lance is that good...you don't pass upon a player that can guard Lebron, is an elite level defender, can legitimately guard 3 positions and can shoot 50% from the fucking field....you sign that player

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:05 PM
Could work, but from what I'm hearing, Mitch wants as much cap flexibility as possible for next season. Stretching Nash and then signing Lance puts another unneeded 15 million cap hit for next year.

It's not worth it for Lance. He isn't a cornerstone player.


Lance isn't but Kiwi is? I don't get it...Lance is a premier defender and shoots 50% from the field...Can Kiwi do that?

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 07:06 PM
Stretching Nash doesn't make sense at this point though. The Lakers are looking forward to let it expire altogether in a season like this.

BlackSwordsMan
07-15-2014, 07:08 PM
You know how it works? When kobe opens his fucking eyes and sees he needs help and then stops robbing the lakers 40 mil

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:09 PM
Stretching Nash doesn't make sense at this point though. The Lakers are looking forward to let it expire altogether in a season like this.

they went after Melo to maximize Kobe's last 2 yrs at potentially winning...so why wouldn't stretching Nash make sense if maximizing Kobe is the intent....there's nothing on the radar for 2015 except a Kevin Love who's hasn't played a single play-off game is entire life...

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:09 PM
If we sign Lance and Kobe is back to form we compete for top 6 teams in the West...Lance is that good...you don't pass upon a player that can guard Lebron, is an elite level defender, can legitimately guard 3 positions and can shoot 50% from the fucking field....you sign that player
ur gna play lebron twice a year. ur going nowhere with this team right now, lance is just gna fuck up the tank, nothing more

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:12 PM
Could work, but from what I'm hearing, Mitch wants as much cap flexibility as possible for next season. Stretching Nash and then signing Lance puts another unneeded 15 million cap hit for next year.

It's not worth it for Lance. He isn't a cornerstone player.

but to my point Cap flexibility means nothing when you signed Kobe to 48 mil....you go for it...we're not going to get a top 5 pick next year with Kobe playing..Our team is much better than last season...it's a fucking waste of time to think we're going to get it

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:14 PM
ur gna play lebron twice a year. ur going nowhere with this team right now, lance is just gna fuck up the tank, nothing more

like I said even without Lance our team right now is much improved over last self....so how are we gonna get a top 5 protected? it ain't happening....we couldn't even tank properly last season now we get Julius and basically stole the 46 pick no way we're getting top 5 pick

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:16 PM
I'm having wet dreams thinking about effective Lance and Lin would be in our backcourt...Lin doesn't get the recognition he deserves and even though he's not a good defender no one can really stop Lin from penetrating...he's pretty dam good...him and Lance would be awesome in my view

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:19 PM
like I said even without Lance our team right now is much improved over last self....so how are we gonna get a top 5 protected? it ain't happening....we couldn't even tank properly last season now we get Julius and basically stole the 46 pick no way we're getting top 5 pick
you've been wrong about everything for quite some time when it comes to basketball... thought young/farmar were gna tear it up, thought lakers were gna be good, thought the spurs would choke/lose. you thought melo was gna come FOR SURE (:lmao by the way). just calm down for a sec. the lakers right now aren't even as "good" as they were last year. you lost Pau who was your best player all season. the only difference is Kobe will be there to start the season, but its only a matter of time till he gets hurt, legitimately or not. he'll overexaggerate an injury when he realizes the team is going nowhere so he won't have to affiliate himself with the shitty team

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 07:19 PM
they went after Melo to maximize Kobe's last 2 yrs at potentially winning...so why wouldn't stretching Nash make sense if maximizing Kobe is the intent....there's nothing on the radar for 2015 except a Kevin Love who's hasn't played a single play-off game is entire life...
Had they signed Melo, yes I can see them stretching his contract but since it failed, their plan has shifted. They're now filling up the rosters with mostly 1 yr deals to either use them as trading chip(s) before the deadline or to create cap in 2015 and 16. It has been said via Pincus that the Lakers do not want the extra $3 million baggage from Nash when the Lakers become major players again in FA.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:20 PM
Another note on Lance:

He led the leauge with five triple doubles last season, and led all guards in rebounds with 7.2 a game, and is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:21 PM
you've been wrong about everything for quite some time when it comes to basketball... thought young/farmar were gna tear it up, thought lakers were gna be good, thought the spurs would choke/lose. you thought melo was gna come FOR SURE (:lmao by the way). just calm down for a sec. the lakers right now aren't even as "good" as they were last year. you lost Pau who was your best player all season. the only difference is Kobe will be there to start the season, but its only a matter of time till he gets hurt, legitimately or not. he'll overexaggerate an injury when he realizes the team is going nowhere so he won't have to affiliate himself with the shitty team

that's not very good rationale....all opinions are nothing but a crap shoot....you know my take on this is soild...you just don't wanna admit it so you spin..that's cool though...

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:22 PM
i like how you suddenly care about FG% though. its an improvement Kool. you're on the right track

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:23 PM
that's not very good rationale....all opinions are nothing but a crap shoot....you know my take on this is soild...you just don't wanna admit it so you spin..that's cool though...
the lakers with or without lance or no threat to the Spurs, so i really don't care. heck, adding lance would make them a better team and more entertaining, and i catch all their games since i'm local, so i wouldn't be against that. but i'm just being real with ya. its not gna happen. and if it does, they're fucking their future over just to finish a few spots higher in the standings this year, while costing themselves a draft pick

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:24 PM
Had they signed Melo, yes I can see them stretching his contract but since it failed, their plan has shifted. They're now filling up the rosters with mostly 1 yr deals to either use them as trading chip(s) before the deadline or to create cap in 2015 and 16. It has been said via Pincus that the Lakers do not want the extra $3 million baggage from Nash when the Lakers become major players again in FA.

It doesn't make sense....2016 is when Kobe comes off and Durant is available...signing Lance now is the right thing to do...especially since Hill comes off in 2 yrs as well...I don't know what you guys are seeing that I'm not

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 07:24 PM
They're going to really develop Randle this year and raise his value. Bet on that. He's going to be another trading chip assuming Love is still on the table. Buss is going all for the next two years after his promise to step down if the Lakers
Doesn't become contenders soon and my guess is by 2016, he will absolutely, unequivocally pursuit Durant.

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:27 PM
They're going to really develop Randle this year and raise his value. Bet on that. He's going to be another trading chip assuming Love is still on the table. Buss is going all for the next two years after his promise to step down if the Lakers
Doesn't become contenders soon and my guess is by 2016, he will absolutely, unequivocally pursuit Durant.
true. if randle has a really strong showing in the first half of this year, minnesota could see him as a guy they'd want, and he'd be cheap/under contract for 4 years. he's gna have to come on really strong, and since ur roster is shit, he'd get plenty of chances to put up scoring numbers tbh

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:29 PM
They're going to really develop Randle this year and raise his value. Bet on that. He's going to be another trading chip assuming Love is still on the table. Buss is going all for the next two years after his promise to step down if the Lakers
Doesn't become contenders soon and my guess is by 2016, he will absolutely, unequivocally pursuit Durant.

and that's why you sign Lance now....with Kobe coming off the books in 2016...you're gonna need someone to entice Durant and then force Kobe to re-sign or resign....either one....I'm telling I got it all figured out...I just don't think I'm wrong on this...in 2016 Durant will be looking at our roster and his desire to win and if nothing is there he's passing on the Lakers just like Melo did

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:32 PM
and that's why you sign Lance now....with Kobe coming off the books in 2015...you're gonna need someone to entice Durant and then force Kobe to re-sign or resign....either one....I'm telling I got it all figured out...I just don't think I'm wrong on this...in 2016 Durant will be looking at our roster and his desire to win and if nothing is there he's passing on the Lakers just like Melo did
you think Durant is going to leave an ego like Westbrook to come join an ego with less talent like Lance? he'd sooner go to Washington

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:35 PM
you think Durant is going to leave an ego like Westbrook to come join an ego with less talent like Lance? he'd sooner go to Washington

He's not trading in one small market for another if the lakers have a talented Roster he can compete with..He want's some of that Hollywood limelight....it's written all over his face

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:36 PM
He's not trading in one small market for another if the lakers have a talented Roster he can compete with..He want's some of that Hollywood limelight....it's written all over his face
the "laker brand" and the "hollywood limelight" has gotten you nowhere in the last 4 years. the only free agent you guys have drawn was Nash :lol

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 07:37 PM
the "laker brand" and the "hollywood limelight" has gotten you nowhere in the last 4 years. the only free agent you guys have drawn was Nash :lol

that's why I said if the team is attractive enough....

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 07:40 PM
that's why I said if the team is attractive enough....
they'll be way more attractive once kobe leaves. its clear none of the big names in the NBA want to play with him. even your boy ariza

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 07:50 PM
Koolaid_Man I don't think you're wrong but they just don't see Lance as a worthy investment given his history. That's probably why they're steering away from him. My guess is having a serviceable big man is a better platform than a wing player with mental issues. So my guess is Love, Aldrige, DJ and Gasol are their targets in 2015. If all else fail, then they will probably proceed picking up Jordan Hill's option, continue developing Randle and continue singing players for cheap and go all out in 2016.


I honestly just don't see any other resolution unless another team's incomptence comes into play and trades their disgruntled star for peanuts to the Lakers.

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 08:00 PM
Koolaid_Man (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19058) I don't think you're wrong but they just don't see Lance as a worthy investment given his history. That's probably why they're steering away from him. My guess is having a serviceable big man is a better platform than a wing player with mental issues. So my guess is Love, Aldrige, DJ and Gasol are their targets in 2015. If all else fail, then they will probably proceed picking up Jordan Hill's option, continue developing Randle and continue singing players for cheap and go all out in 2016.


I honestly just don't see any other resolution unless another team's incomptence comes into play and trades their disgruntled star for peanuts to the Lakers.

Come on bro..mental issues really? Lance is just channeling his inner Dennis Rodman and since when did the Lakers have reservation about going after controversial players? Lance is a stud and I would have him on my team any day....there's no one in the league like him at the moment...a defensive specialist, that can handle like a PG and shoot 50% from the field? what is the league smoking by trying to black ball this kid....because he blew in Lebron's face and play slapped him? fuck Lebron...and shame on Larry Bird for low balling Lance...if it wasn't for Lance Indiana would have gotten swept by Miami all because Paul George was trying to win while looking pretty...Lance was the ONLY reason they had ANY pride in that series....

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 08:01 PM
they'll be way more attractive once kobe leaves. its clear none of the big names in the NBA want to play with him. even your boy ariza

more propaganda I see...carry on

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 08:06 PM
Come on bro..mental issues really? Lance is just channeling his inner Dennis Rodman and since when did the Lakers have reservation about going after controversial players? Lance is a stud and I would have him on my team any day....there's no one in the league like him at the moment...a defensive specialist, that can handle like a PG and shoot 50% from the field? what is the league smoking by trying to black ball this kid....because he blew in Lebron's face and play slapped him? fuck Lebron...and shame on Larry Bird for low balling Lance...if it wasn't for Lance Indiana would have gotten swept by Miami all because Paul George was trying to win while looking pretty...Lance was the ONLY reason they had ANY pride in that series....

I don't know man, I'm on the fence with Lance. I like what he brings and he's obviously versatile. My only concern has always been his maturity. I can live with Lance if he's crazy like Ron, but It would be hard to support him if he's just another JR Smith who had a great season in his contract year. There's just too many red flags with Lance.


And I can't believe how disappointing this season is when it comes down to the idea of acquringLance as our biggest FA lmao.

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 08:12 PM
more propaganda I see...carry on
propaganda? you were the one trying to feed the forum that ariza wanted to come back dirt cheap to play with kobe :lol

or that the "secret meeting" with melo was going to lead to him joining the lakers :lol

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 08:16 PM
I don't know man, I'm on the fence with Lance. I like what he brings and he's obviously versatile. My only concern has always been his maturity. I can live with Lance if he's crazy like Ron, but It would be hard to support him if he's just another JR Smith who had a great season in his contract year. There's just too many red flags with Lance.


And I can't believe how disappointing this season is when it comes down to the idea of acquringLance as our biggest FA lmao.


he's 23 yrs old...of course he's not Mature....Kawhi seems to be a borderline retard brainwashed by dudes in SA that will suffer later in life because they think it's cool to take less money...

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 08:16 PM
propaganda? you were the one trying to feed the forum that ariza wanted to come back dirt cheap to play with kobe :lol

or that the "secret meeting" with melo was going to lead to him joining the lakers :lol


then blame it on what it is....the money and not Kobe...ok retard :lol

RsxPiimp
07-15-2014, 08:19 PM
he's 23 yrs old...of course he's not Mature....Kawhi seems to be a borderline retard brainwashed by dudes in SA that will suffer later in life because they think it's cool to take less money...

:lol

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 08:30 PM
then blame it on what it is....the money and not Kobe...ok retard :lol
the lakers offered max contracts to everybody, even Dirk :lol. money was far from the issue

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 08:35 PM
the lakers offered max contracts to everybody, even Dirk :lol. money was far from the issue

You're a special kind of idiot...:lol Melo opted for the bigger pay day...these max type players in 99% of cases choose the more money...Non max type players have to be offered the big bucks before they can accept it...Ariza was never offered only looked at...try again idiot

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 08:42 PM
You're a special kind of idiot...:lol Melo opted for the bigger pay day...these max type players in 99% of cases choose the more money...Non max type players have to be offered the big bucks before they can accept it...Ariza was never offered only looked at...try again idiot
dwight left money on the table just to leave... dirk turned down a max from you guys. lebron chose cleveland over hollywood and kobe for the same money

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 08:59 PM
signing Lance now is the right thing to do
http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=7355&pictureid=48218

Koolaid_Man
07-15-2014, 09:00 PM
dwight left money on the table just to leave... dirk turned down a max from you guys. lebron chose cleveland over hollywood and kobe for the same money


:lol Your lunacy knows no bounds I see....you're just as fucked as Dwight mentally :lol and :lol@the notion Dirk would ever leave Dallas in the first place...and Lebron would actually play with Kobe....you have no perception skills I see...

Carry on moron :lol you entertain me.

313
07-15-2014, 09:29 PM
http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=7355&pictureid=48218:lol

DJR210
07-15-2014, 09:59 PM
LMAO @ a Stephenson/Bryant duo..epic fail written all over than shit. One alpha, and the other a truly beta, alpha poser in Kobe. Kobe would have Stephenson out of a job by December.

cd021
07-15-2014, 10:30 PM
2016 is the year Durant is available that's more realistic than to even be worried about Cap Flexibility for 15....Sign Bynum and Lance and we're set to make a run...the Rockets dropped themselves to 7-8 or seed and will be battling it out with the Lakers..if Kobe comes back to form Lakers will be shooting for the 6th spot

Thats supposed to be the year the next lockout happens. The cap jumps to 80 million (projected) so Durant would be able to get 30% of 80 million , as opposed to 63 million. Thats could mean at least $20 million more on top of the already massive disparity between staying and leaving.

In other words, he'd be a lunatic to leave unless signed and traded.

Leon Black
07-15-2014, 11:42 PM
Love my Lakers but god damn this offseason was a fucking disaster. I'd be shocked of we aren't bringing up the rear out West.

Raven
07-16-2014, 08:48 AM
Thats supposed to be the year the next lockout happens. The cap jumps to 80 million (projected) so Durant would be able to get 30% of 80 million , as opposed to 63 million. Thats could mean at least $20 million more on top of the already massive disparity between staying and leaving.

In other words, he'd be a lunatic to leave unless signed and traded.

You know you just killed the dude right?

TDMVPDPOY
07-16-2014, 09:25 AM
signin LIN they will do a tour of china to rake in more money

after this year lin will get overpaid again

2015 kirby will ask for another loyalty max contract

Buddy Mignon
07-16-2014, 10:03 AM
Fucking sign Lance Stephenson and get it over already....Lamarcus is resigning with Portland and who the fuck knows what Love will do..that's it in terms of big names on the Market...surely Mitch and Fredo aren't that fucking stupid to be waiting on 2015 so they can swing and miss again like they did in 2014.....they fucked up big time by passing on Parsons and now another young stud that was the only reason Indiana looked respectable against Miami is on the clock...what will the Lakers do....don't tell me we're gonna keep chasing pipe dreams with the Cap flexibility bullshit while Kobe's time is winding down...Lance is a stud and shot 50% from the field last season...who fucking shoots 50% as a combo guard, and can play small forward and can defend.....Lakers are fucking MORONS if they pass up on Lance....got dam Mitch you can't possible be this gotdam stupid.... Lance, Kobe, an Lin would be a pretty unguardable since Lance can shoot and drive and handle really handle the ball. Lin can penetrate with the best of em and well Kobe is Kobe....I hope Fredo puts down that pipe for just one min...and really think about this...


Calm down homie... we have some internal cleansing to do. Jeannie is going to have to go to war with her brother to get the stink of death off us. The media and the haters have dealt us a death blow with this whole, "No one wants to play with Kobe," mantra. Yet, if you asked the top ten players in the league would they welcome Kobe on their team in their shit hole cities they all would say yes. Its a ploy that the haters devised and executed well after Kobe went back to back. What you have to understand is its deeper than just not liking Kobe. You don't have to like a guy to go to war with him. It helps to like each other, but the greatest players in all of sports have succeeded without having the Magic Johnson personality. Russell, Kareem, and MJ were all despised by teammates at some point in time. Kobe is playing amongst a generation of players that idolized Jordan. None of these guys want to join Kobe to help him surpass Jordan. Jennings let the cat out the bag when he said "they all trying to team up to beat Kobe."

This is a new era, Kool... and Kobe is the last of his breed. He didn't play ball and bend over for the owners and the media so he's suffering for it. They taking pay cuts to win... figure that.

DAF86
07-16-2014, 10:40 AM
Koolaid_Man's "serious" takes are so bad that it makes me miss his "trolling".

DAF86
07-16-2014, 10:47 AM
Lance isn't but Kiwi is? I don't get it...Lance is a premier defender and shoots 50% from the field...Can Kiwi do that?

:lol Not sure if serious, tbh.

http://espn.go.com/nba/history/awards/_/id/50

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard

Spur-Addict
07-16-2014, 11:01 AM
It's highly enjoyable observing the neurosis of the Laker fan :corn:

Thread
07-16-2014, 11:02 AM
It's highly enjoyable observing the neurosis of the Laker fan :corn:

Like watching you fellows with The Bag.

Spur-Addict
07-16-2014, 11:12 AM
Like watching you fellows with The Bag.

Watching the Lakers at this point is like watching an animal carcass rot in real time as opposed to those sped up videos.

Clipper Nation
07-16-2014, 11:18 AM
Like watching you fellows with The Bag.
With Kirby in it.

Thread
07-16-2014, 11:20 AM
Watching the Lakers at this point is like watching an animal carcass rot in real time as opposed to those sped up videos.

Watching you guys strain over The Bag is still a daily treat.

Clipper Nation
07-16-2014, 11:22 AM
Watching you guys strain over The Bag is still a daily treat.
With Kirby in it.

Spur-Addict
07-16-2014, 11:25 AM
Watching you guys strain over The Bag is still a daily treat.

Did you watch us strain over winning that NBA championship just a short time ago? :lol

Thread
07-16-2014, 11:27 AM
Did you watch us strain over winning that NBA championship just a short time ago? :lol

What do you think, you dork?

Spur-Addict
07-16-2014, 11:35 AM
What do you think, you dork?

:rollin Come on Thread, don't be so upset. You're back to battling it out with Sacto just like the Webber days, should be bring back faded memories of glory past which may be quite a ways a way in this glorious cap era we now live in. I'll tell you one thing, I'm going to tune in to those fierce division games this year and watch Kobe wrestle in futility.

Clipper Nation
07-16-2014, 11:37 AM
:rollin Come on Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320), don't be so upset. You're back to battling it out with Sacto just like the Webber days, should be bring back faded memories of glory past which may be quite a ways a way in this glorious cap era we now live in. I'll tell you one thing, I'm going to tune in to those fierce division games this year and watch Kobe wrestle in futility.
This time, Kirby won't have Stern, Daddy, or Horry to bail his ass out :lol

Spur-Addict
07-16-2014, 11:37 AM
This time, Kirby won't have Stern, Daddy, or Horry to bail his ass out :lol

He's gotta swallow det shit sangwich he made all for himself :lol

spurraider21
07-16-2014, 11:42 AM
Bobcats and MJ beat you to the punch :lmao


http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=7355&pictureid=48218

Thread
07-16-2014, 12:59 PM
This time, Kirby won't have Stern, Daddy, or Horry to bail his ass out :lol

Adelman told him:::"Chris, don't leave 'em, not for a second. Don't do it."

tee, hee.

Thread
07-16-2014, 12:59 PM
:rollin Come on Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320), don't be so upset. You're back to battling it out with Sacto just like the Webber days, should be bring back faded memories of glory past which may be quite a ways a way in this glorious cap era we now live in. I'll tell you one thing, I'm going to tune in to those fierce division games this year and watch Kobe wrestle in futility.

I take my solace in I shine among 28 others.

Ghazi
07-16-2014, 01:45 PM
Lol lakers are much improved from last year... My DICK

Kool Bob Love
07-16-2014, 01:59 PM
:rollin

Floyd Pacquiao
07-16-2014, 02:03 PM
Lance picked the Hornets over the Lakers. Lmaooo

kobe4life
07-16-2014, 02:08 PM
Lol lakers are much improved from last year... My DICK

Infidel they are much better than last year. They have a healthy God, paired with Lin in the backcourt along with having a 20-10 big in Randle. The Lakers have a big 3 of God,Lin,Randle. This is a team that is going to win 60 games next year.

The Batman
08-07-2014, 09:22 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/micholjordonm8zsx.gif