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ABC
07-18-2014, 02:50 PM
Does he get one? If so, when (Summer, Fall, Spring?) and for how much?

cantthinkofanything
07-18-2014, 02:54 PM
Does he get one? If so, when (Summer, Fall, Spring?) and for how much?

Probably wait until after the finals next year and execute a sign and trade.

kobyz
07-18-2014, 03:03 PM
Do you remember all those trade Parker thread years ago?

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 03:08 PM
don't see a need to extend him yet. there are all sorts of question marks next offseason... Duncan/Manu possibly retiring. will parker play better with a rest-filled offseason, or was last season a decline that will continue? I'd wait the season out... Parker is a terrific player, but I'm not so sure the market will be that hot for a 33 year old point guard. i think the FO would be able to re-sign him if they wanted to

Brunodf
07-18-2014, 03:20 PM
Do you remember all those trade Parker thread years ago?
Good times, when Tony had some value...:rolleyes

soxxx
07-18-2014, 03:24 PM
TBH I think Tony Parker might actually want to leave after next season. If Duncan and Ginobli leave, he might leave to. I think he wants the spotlight and attention in a city like NY.

houston spurs fan
07-18-2014, 03:50 PM
TP goes to NY to expand his brand. Can't see him playing for the Lakers so it's NY for TP.

soxxx
07-18-2014, 03:54 PM
TP goes to NY to expand his brand. Can't see him playing for the Lakers so it's NY for TP.
Thats what I think to, Tony Parker has always been more of the big city type of guy. He hangs out with all the celebs, etc. I think the Knicks will go after him again.

cd021
07-18-2014, 04:00 PM
3 years, $30-33 million. Partially guaranteed for 1/3 of his salary in his third season. After next season. That sounds fair

Sean Cagney
07-18-2014, 04:07 PM
don't see a need to extend him yet. there are all sorts of question marks next offseason... Duncan/Manu possibly retiring. will parker play better with a rest-filled offseason, or was last season a decline that will continue? I'd wait the season out... Parker is a terrific player, but I'm not so sure the market will be that hot for a 33 year old point guard. i think the FO would be able to re-sign him if they wanted to

33 year old with mileage! I can see a team like NY trying for him because of the name and he would bring experience there but overall you are right. Someone might throw some ridiculous contract at him though you never know?

I agree on being able to re-signing him too, they should be able to if Tim and Manu are off the books.

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 04:17 PM
33 year old with mileage! I can see a team like NY trying for him because of the name and he would bring experience there but overall you are right. Someone might throw some ridiculous contract at him though you never know?

I agree on being able to re-signing him too, they should be able to if Tim and Manu are off the books.
i dont think the Spurs would bend over for Parker, even if they have all the cap space available. it sorta sucks that he got fleeced during his prime (12.5 mil per during 2012 and 2013 which were borderline MVP level regular seasons) since he signed his deal at his lowest value, but the spurs would probably be expecting a team-friendly deal with him, especially if leonard will be getting max or near it

ABC
07-18-2014, 04:28 PM
3 years, $30-33 million. Partially guaranteed for 1/3 of his salary in his third season. After next season. That sounds fair

:tu

I was thinking along similar lines in terms of annual salary, but I do think they'll extend him in the spring (I'm expecting a really good year from him). I was thinking four years with a descending contract structure and the fourth year only partially guaranteed. I don't think they'll be using cap space for a couple years because I see Duncan and Ginobili coming back after next season (and a big Leonard extension), so there's no reason not to front-load Parker's contract. Plus, his cap hold in 2015 will be $18 million, so there's not a lot of benefit to waiting until the off season to re-sign him.

ducks
07-18-2014, 04:30 PM
see bledshoe wanting 15 million a year and spur fans thinking tp is worth 10

spursfan1000
07-18-2014, 04:57 PM
If Manu and Duncan retire after next season, Parker leaving wouldn't really hurt

Andthentherewas21
07-18-2014, 05:01 PM
see bledshoe wanting 15 million a year and spur fans thinking tp is worth 10

Bledsoe can want 15 mil/yr all he wants, doesn't mean he's getting it. As far as TP, he's definitely worth more than $10mil/yr but as a pg who has relied on speed most of his career and who is starting to get little chronic injuries here and there, anything more than his current average of 12.5 would be overpaying

TXstbobcat
07-18-2014, 05:04 PM
3 year $30 million sounds about right.

ducks
07-18-2014, 05:06 PM
lets see if bledshoe gets it he is more injury prone then tp

vander
07-18-2014, 05:16 PM
I wouldn't extend him for more than 2 years 15 mil (total)

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 05:17 PM
see bledshoe wanting 15 million a year and spur fans thinking tp is worth 10
which is why the spurs do well and (assuming phoenix caves) the suns dont

will_spurs
07-18-2014, 05:41 PM
I wouldn't extend him for more than 2 years 15 mil (total)

Which is why you aren't working for a NBA front office, let alone the Spurs FO.

cd021
07-18-2014, 05:45 PM
see bledshoe wanting 15 million a year and spur fans thinking tp is worth 10

He is in his mid 20's. Parker will be 33 and will have more than 1200 total games under his belt. How is he worth anywhere near $15 million again? $10-11 million per is fair.

vander
07-18-2014, 05:47 PM
Which is why you aren't working for a NBA front office, let alone the Spurs FO.

yep, NBA front offices definitely overpay for free agents

cd021
07-18-2014, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't extend him for more than 2 years 15 mil (total)


:lol Yeah cause he is only worth $7.5 million. Even in a down year he still averaged roughly 50% FG, 17 PPG, & 6 APG. He should be better next season with extended rest in the off season.

AFBlue
07-18-2014, 05:49 PM
Didn't Manu get $13M/yr in his early 30s? I'm pretty sure Parker means as much to the future of the franchise remaining in contention as Manu did when he signed his deal. Given that he's a year removed from an MVP-level run and could very well return to that form with a summer off, I think the Spurs should move now on extending him at slightly above where he's paid today.

Nathan89
07-18-2014, 05:54 PM
Tony should avg a minimum of 12mil a year till he's 35. Even if he's declining the cap is on the rise.

vander
07-18-2014, 05:55 PM
:lol Yeah cause he is only worth $7.5 million. Even in a down year he still averaged roughly 50% FG, 17 PPG, & 6 APG. He should be better next season with extended rest in the off season.

will be

Parker is old, he has a lot of mileage on him. his game is based on quickness and getting into the paint, and already now he was maybe the 7th most important player on the Spurs against the Thunder and Heat

TheyCallMePro
07-18-2014, 06:03 PM
I remember him saying he wanted an extension this summer during the season.

Spurs fans might not appreciate it much, but TP needs to and WILL be paid. It's too insulting being the best PG in the league and seeing Chris Paul make twice as much as you year in and year out.

AFBlue
07-18-2014, 06:07 PM
Can any of the cap experts on here give the max available extension Parker is eligible for given his current salary?

ajh18
07-18-2014, 06:17 PM
Tony also said recently he knows Pop will take care of him for the rest of his career, and that's why he's always been willing to take less. I doubt the feeling isn't mutual for the front office.

Spurs won't play hardball with TP, and I think both sides want TP to stay a Spur for the rest of his career. He'll get a nice $10-$12 million for 3-4 years, and the Spurs won't flinch if he wants closer to the $12M side. I also wouldn't be surprised to see more integration with the ballclub he owns in France (maybe bringing a coach over, or some kind of prep for Parker to go over there at the end of his career).

Mel_13
07-18-2014, 06:19 PM
Can any of the cap experts on here give the max available extension Parker is eligible for given his current salary?

For a 3 year max extension signed before June 30, 2015:

2015-16: 13.44M
2016-17: 14.44M
2017-18: 15.45M

TheGoldStandard
07-18-2014, 06:40 PM
For a 3 year max extension signed before June 30, 2015:

2015-16: 13.44M
2016-17: 14.44M
2017-18: 15.45M

For that price I'm in. Parker is a Spur for life

Mel_13
07-18-2014, 06:43 PM
Parker is a Spur for life

I agree. All that stuff about NY and LA never had much substance to it. Tony will retire a Spur.

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 06:44 PM
that's a max? damn. how on earth is gordon hayward eligible for more?

Chinook
07-18-2014, 06:45 PM
that's a max? damn. how on earth is gordon hayward eligible for more?

Extensions are only an increase in salary for non-rookie-scale players. That's why Aldridge isn't reupping yet.

lmbebo
07-18-2014, 06:52 PM
I don't foresee spurs playing hard ball with TP. I could also see TP being on staff with spurs if he wanted. He's given a lot to this franchise. He may not be worth what he is later in his career, but neither is worth what he's gotten paid the last few years either. I'm ok with over paying at him now if thats what it takes.

Mel_13
07-18-2014, 06:53 PM
that's a max? damn. how on earth is gordon hayward eligible for more?

Max extension.

If he waits until July, a new contract can start well above 20M per year.

TheGoldStandard
07-18-2014, 07:19 PM
I doubt Parker wants to cripple the Spurs chances of winning, he won't look for a max deal, he'll take the extension and be happy with it. The cost of living in San Antonio is bananas and I mean that in a good way.

ducks
07-18-2014, 07:23 PM
will be

Parker is old, he has a lot of mileage on him. his game is based on quickness and getting into the paint, and already now he was maybe the 7th most important player on the Spurs against the Thunder and Heat
yeah heat only put james on him their best defender imo and tp wear out james

Kool Bob Love
07-18-2014, 07:51 PM
yeah heat only put james on him their best defender imo and tp wear out james
Lebron was guarding kawhi.

cjw
07-18-2014, 08:58 PM
that's a max? damn. how on earth is gordon hayward eligible for more?

After July 1 his max increases because technically his contract is over and not an extension. He could get 35% of the cap by being a 10+ year player; not that he'll come close to it.

ElNono
07-18-2014, 09:34 PM
4 year/$20m... do it RC...

cd021
07-18-2014, 09:47 PM
will be

Parker is old, he has a lot of mileage on him. his game is based on quickness and getting into the paint, and already now he was maybe the 7th most important player on the Spurs against the Thunder and Heat

Name the 7 ahead of him.

He probably was the 4th best in the Heat series and 3rd best against OKC.

For an all star PG in a guard driven league, their is no way that he is only worth $7.5 million.

ducks
07-18-2014, 09:51 PM
Lebron was guarding kawhi.

Rewatch finals
James guarded tp a lot

cd021
07-18-2014, 09:53 PM
For that price I'm in. Parker is a Spur for life

That seems a bit high to me. He has sacrificed for the good of the team, though, so that might be the cost of loyalty. That 4 yrs, $50 million was a fantastic deal. Having ,arguably, our best player making $12.5 million per is great value.

I'm hoping for $10-11 million a season. Preferably over 3 years but a 4 years, $45 million (with the 4th season partially guaranteed for 1/3 of his salary) would keep him under contract until the age of 36 and pay him more in the later part of his career than he probably could get on the open market.

Mel_13
07-18-2014, 09:54 PM
That seems a bit high to me. He has sacrificed for the good of the team, though, so that might be the cost of loyalty. That 4 yrs, $50 million was a fantastic deal. Having ,arguably, our best player making $12.5 million per is great value.

I'm hoping for $10-11 million a season. Preferably over 3 years but a 4 years, $45 million (with the 4th season partially guaranteed for 1/3 of his salary) would keep him under contract until the age of 36 and pay him more in the later part of his career than he probably could get on the open market.

If it's an extension, it can't add more than three years to his current deal.

TheGoldStandard
07-18-2014, 10:09 PM
You also have to consider that the cap is going to skyrocket in theory so if that were to happen then his deal will still be at a discount.

Kool Bob Love
07-18-2014, 10:10 PM
Rewatch finals
James guarded tp a lot
Fuck you think I been doing for the last month?


http://youtu.be/8SUR9sTTLSY

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 10:13 PM
Hypothetical: Phoenix offers Bledsoe for Parker straight up, Bledsoe coming on a 4 year 50 mil deal. If you're gm, would you take it?

FireMicoHalili
07-18-2014, 10:13 PM
Wondering if TP's camp takes into consideration the impending TV deal. Might make sense for him to sign a two-year extension with a player option on the 2nd year. Benefits both sides: Spurs get a contract year from TP while he gets his money adjusted to a theoretically higher cap with job security.

Kool Bob Love
07-18-2014, 10:14 PM
Rewatch finals
James guarded tp a lot


http://youtu.be/HIwoqdg2OFk

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 10:18 PM
Wondering if TP's camp takes into consideration the impending TV deal. Might make sense for him to sign a two-year extension with a player option on the 2nd year. Benefits both sides: Spurs get a contract year from TP while he gets his money adjusted to a theoretically higher cap with job security.
I doubt Parker will be banking on a big deal during his age 34 free agency

FireMicoHalili
07-18-2014, 10:22 PM
I doubt Parker will be banking on a big deal during his age 34 free agency

Oh, true. Probably me feeling bad for the guy, $12.5M is/was a crazy bargain.

TheGoldStandard
07-18-2014, 10:25 PM
Hypothetical: Phoenix offers Bledsoe for Parker straight up, Bledsoe coming on a 4 year 50 mil deal. If you're gm, would you take it?

Not gonna happen under Duncan's watch. Parker is untouchable for at least a season.

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 10:30 PM
Not gonna happen under Duncan's watch. Parker is untouchable for at least a season.
I don't see them doing anything to the big 3 either until Tim calls it quits... But a future with Bledsoe, Green, and Leonard is intriguing as hell

TheGoldStandard
07-18-2014, 10:36 PM
I don't see them doing anything to the big 3 either until Tim calls it quits... But a future with Bledsoe, Green, and Leonard is intriguing as hell

On paper it looks good but I don't know what kind of locker room guy he is especially with his ego telling him he's worth 20m a year lol..

Chinook
07-18-2014, 10:40 PM
Hypothetical: Phoenix offers Bledsoe for Parker straight up, Bledsoe coming on a 4 year 50 mil deal. If you're gm, would you take it?

Nope. Not unless the Spurs intend on giving Kawhi the ball a lot more next season.

spurraider21
07-18-2014, 10:40 PM
On paper it looks good but I don't know what kind of locker room guy he is especially with his ego telling him he's worth 20m a year lol..
I'm not worried about that tbh, besides the scenario put forth was him agreeing to 4/50 (same annual salary as TP) while agreeing to play for he spurs lol

ABC
07-19-2014, 01:27 AM
If it's an extension, it can't add more than three years to his current deal.

I finally found the relevant info. in the CBA FAQ, I think:

"Veteran extensions are limited to four seasons, including the seasons remaining on the current contract. Even if the extension is signed in late June, the current season counts as one full season toward the total. For example, a contract with two seasons remaining may be extended for up to two additional seasons."

Lame. Did that change in the last CBA? I know Parker signed a 4 year extension in 2010.

99 Problems
07-19-2014, 05:59 AM
I remember him saying he wanted an extension this summer during the season.

Spurs fans might not appreciate it much, but TP needs to and WILL be paid. It's too insulting being the best PG in the league and seeing Chris Paul make twice as much as you year in and year out.


Millsy torched CP3 last time out as well. Very spoilt with PGs in SA.

TheGreatYacht
07-19-2014, 06:01 AM
3 years, $30-33 million. Partially guaranteed for 1/3 of his salary in his third season. After next season. That sounds fair
Manu got 14M/yr when he was 35. No way Spurs offer TP that

TheGreatYacht
07-19-2014, 06:05 AM
3yr/60M do it RC! If "8" got 14M when he was 35, Parker deserves 20/yr

Richie
07-19-2014, 06:13 AM
I think Tony gets 55/4. Spurs are loyal and will happily pay him til he retires.

Edit: considering his age next season, 4th year may be a team option/partial guarantee or drop it to 40/3

Mel_13
07-19-2014, 08:12 AM
I finally found the relevant info. in the CBA FAQ, I think:

"Veteran extensions are limited to four seasons, including the seasons remaining on the current contract. Even if the extension is signed in late June, the current season counts as one full season toward the total. For example, a contract with two seasons remaining may be extended for up to two additional seasons."

Lame. Did that change in the last CBA? I know Parker signed a 4 year extension in 2010.

Yes.

cd021
07-19-2014, 10:06 AM
Manu got 14M/yr when he was 35. No way Spurs offer TP that

he signed that deal when he was 35 not 33. Thats a pretty good deal given Parkers production and age.

Mel_13
07-19-2014, 10:08 AM
he signed that deal when he was 35 not 33. Thats a pretty good deal given Parkers production and age.

Manu was 32 when he signed that extension in April, 2010.

100%duncan
07-19-2014, 10:15 AM
You guys are morons, TP said he wanted to retire a Spur.

ABC
07-19-2014, 11:11 AM
Yes.

Thanks :tu

cd021
07-19-2014, 01:20 PM
Manu was 32 when he signed that extension in April, 2010.

He was referring to:



Signed July 11, 2013 for an assumed $14,500,000 for 2 years.


He was 35 when he signed that deal.

I made the point that Parker, if they wait to after next season, would be 33 when he resigns with the Spurs. I earlier mentioned that he could sign a 3yr/ $30-33 million deal or a 4 yr/ $ 45 million dollar deal (with the 4th season partially guaranteed). He could make more money at 35 and 36 by signing a longer deal as opposed to signing a short term deal.

Mel_13
07-19-2014, 01:23 PM
He was referring to:



Signed July 11, 2013 for an assumed $14,500,000 for 2 years.


He was 35 when he signed that deal.

He was referring to the 14M/year that Manu was paid in 2012-13 at age 35.

cd021
07-19-2014, 01:40 PM
He was referring to the 14M/year that Manu was paid in 2012-13 at age 35.

Ok. I misunderstood. I though he meant that $14 million he got after the Finals last season at the age of 35. Not the $14 million he got doing the lockout shortened season.

AFBlue
07-19-2014, 03:29 PM
For a 3 year max extension signed before June 30, 2015:

2015-16: 13.44M
2016-17: 14.44M
2017-18: 15.45M

Thanks Mel!

My guess is that he gets the max extendion with some kind of option or partial guarantee in the final year.

Drom John
07-19-2014, 04:12 PM
All of playoffs:
WS
3.2 Duncan
2.9 Leonard
2.6 Splitter
2.2 Ginobili
2.0 Diaw
1.9 Green
1.1 Parker 6th, but just a bit ahead of
1.1 Mills

WS/48
.239 Splitter
.204 Duncan
.191 Leonard
.184 Ginobili
.172 Green
.159 Joseph
.158 Ayres
.155 Diaw
.146 Mills
.122 Bonner
.108 Baynes
.107 Belinelli
.071 Parker

Both WS and WS/48 pass the eye test.

Last year in the regular season Parker was 63rd in WS. Thaddeus Young was 63rd in salary at $8,850,000.

If you think Parker is steady, then factor in a 7.5% increases, then I'd have Tony at:
2015-2016 $9,513,750.00
2016-2017 $10,227,281.25 player option

If, on the other hand, you think like I do that Tony is in decline, I'd offer $8,850,000 each year with the second year as a player option.

Brunodf
07-19-2014, 05:01 PM
:corn:

ElNono
07-19-2014, 07:10 PM
Tony earned an extension in the $6m/season range, tbh... now before peeps tell me that's too much, it's just like Manu last season, face of the franchise, Spurs for life, and brings leadership which I think it's very underrated around here. Sometimes you pay a little more (and it's not a lot, since the Spurs would have plenty to throw the max to the guy they really need to keep in Kawhi), but you get known goods.

AFBlue
07-19-2014, 08:47 PM
Tony earned an extension in the $6m/season range, tbh... now before peeps tell me that's too much, it's just like Manu last season, face of the franchise, Spurs for life, and brings leadership which I think it's very underrated around here. Sometimes you pay a little more (and it's not a lot, since the Spurs would have plenty to throw the max to the guy they really need to keep in Kawhi), but you get known goods.

:lol

Wonder how many bites you'll get. Subtle goods.

vander
07-19-2014, 08:49 PM
All of playoffs:
WS
3.2 Duncan
2.9 Leonard
2.6 Splitter
2.2 Ginobili
2.0 Diaw
1.9 Green
1.1 Parker 6th, but just a bit ahead of
1.1 Mills

WS/48
.239 Splitter
.204 Duncan
.191 Leonard
.184 Ginobili
.172 Green
.159 Joseph
.158 Ayres
.155 Diaw
.146 Mills
.122 Bonner
.108 Baynes
.107 Belinelli
.071 Parker

Both WS and WS/48 pass the eye test.

Last year in the regular season Parker was 63rd in WS. Thaddeus Young was 63rd in salary at $8,850,000.

If you think Parker is steady, then factor in a 7.5% increases, then I'd have Tony at:
2015-2016 $9,513,750.00
2016-2017 $10,227,281.25 player option

If, on the other hand, you think like I do that Tony is in decline, I'd offer $8,850,000 each year with the second year as a player option.

on court/off court is my favorite stat (this is just Thunder/Hear series) (and apparently this is just on court, oh well) (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/plus_minus_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&output=per_min&year_min=2014&year_max=2014&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&team_id=SAS&opp_id=&game_num_min=13&game_num_max=23&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&c1stat=mp&c1comp=ge&c1val=100&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=ge&c4val=&order_by=diff_pts)

vander
07-19-2014, 08:49 PM
:lol

Wonder how many bites you'll get. Subtle goods.

why you ruin it?

Johnny RIngo
07-20-2014, 12:32 AM
After the poor regular season and playoffs, now would probably be the perfect time to extend TP while his value is low.

AFBlue
07-20-2014, 09:34 AM
All of playoffs:
WS
3.2 Duncan
2.9 Leonard
2.6 Splitter
2.2 Ginobili
2.0 Diaw
1.9 Green
1.1 Parker 6th, but just a bit ahead of
1.1 Mills

WS/48
.239 Splitter
.204 Duncan
.191 Leonard
.184 Ginobili
.172 Green
.159 Joseph
.158 Ayres
.155 Diaw
.146 Mills
.122 Bonner
.108 Baynes
.107 Belinelli
.071 Parker

Both WS and WS/48 pass the eye test.

Last year in the regular season Parker was 63rd in WS. Thaddeus Young was 63rd in salary at $8,850,000.

If you think Parker is steady, then factor in a 7.5% increases, then I'd have Tony at:
2015-2016 $9,513,750.00
2016-2017 $10,227,281.25 player option

If, on the other hand, you think like I do that Tony is in decline, I'd offer $8,850,000 each year with the second year as a player option.

What were his WS stats from the previous season? Considering he was a legit MVP candidate, I would imagine they were pretty good.

The point being his next contract will likely be based on a larger body of work and not just last season. I'd also challenge the regression assumption because he'll be fresh coming into next year for the first time in several seasons.

Just being realistic, I don't see a scenario where he gets paid less per season than his current contract.

Mel_13
07-20-2014, 10:00 AM
What were his WS stats from the previous season? Considering he was a legit MVP candidate, I would imagine they were pretty good.

The point being his next contract will likely be based on a larger body of work and not just last season. I'd also challenge the regression assumption because he'll be fresh coming into next year for the first time in several seasons.

Just being realistic, I don't see a scenario where he gets paid less per season than his current contract.

Tony's contract history with the Spurs suggests that an extension at or near his max is a likely outcome.

Drom John
07-20-2014, 11:25 AM
In 2012-2013 Tony Parker was 17th in league WS
Rudy Gay 17th in pay at $16,460,538.

Underpaid in 2012-2013, overpaid in 2013-2014. Combined Parker was slightly underpaid, $25M production for a $24M paycheck. Slight underpayment over the last two years should not translate into "the Spurs owe Tony."

I think it is unwise to pay a declining Parker for what Tony did two years ago. Overpaying Parker requires you to underpay several other players to stay in contention. Remember, if you pay everybody on a team what they deserve, then you have a 41-41 team. That doesn't make the playoffs in the West. Tony getting a max extension would require the Spurs to underpay others by $12M/year in order to field a .500 team. Some of that $12M in 2015-16 looks like Mills and Anderson, maybe Jean-Charles and the 2015 1st round pick, but not enough to make the playoffs.

Tony was only a $8,850,000 player in a championship year, and played worse in the playoffs than in the regular season. I wish Parker will improve in 2014-15 as Ginobili improved in 2013-14. But to predict such an improvement denies Father Time and Father Time is mad at the Spurs for Tim Duncan. And Duncan has been maintaining his play, not improving his play. If Parker maintains his play, he is a $9M player.

Ginobili's contract history with the Spurs suggests than an extension at or near Parker's max is an unlikely outcome.

vander
07-20-2014, 11:51 AM
and Father Time is mad at the Spurs for Tim Duncan.

lol

will_spurs
07-20-2014, 04:12 PM
Summary of what we've learned in this thread:
- Tony very likely to sign a 3-year extension paying him about $13-14 million/year.
- WS is a shitty stat.

Perry Mason
07-20-2014, 09:16 PM
Summary of what we've learned in this thread:
- Tony very likely to sign a 3-year extension paying him about $13-14 million/year.
- WS is a shitty stat.

Lol. thank you. Everyone who is hating on Tony for the Thunder / Heat series. Go back and watch Games 1, 2 and 5, particularly game 5. Tony came up huge at critical moments.

The problem with many if not most advanced stats is they miss the intangibles and chemistry, and they underrate the savvy playoff veteran. Yes, both stats and advanced stats show that Tony, Tim and Manu are weaker at their positions than many marquee names. But, this overlooks that these veterans can play at the world-class level when they are most needed. It over-penalizes these veterans for playing less minutes and coasting.

But enough theory. In Game 5 vs OKC, Parker showed up at the most critical moments. People quickly forget that Game 5 was the most important game to that point, as OKC and Ibaka had put the fear of God in the Spurs. What did Chris Paul do in his critical Game 5 against the same team? He shit all over himself, that's what he did.

Or take Game 6 against OKC. Would anyone other than Manu have hit that game-defining 3? Kobe? KD? Would they have been as quick and crafty and clutch? And how about TD in overtime? Would any other big man, Dwight, Aldridge, Blake, etc., have taken over the game like TD did?

No. It irks me to see posters play Morey the GM and act like these aren't people but some kind of computer program that operates with complete consistency and predictability. These people would have let Ginobili walk for sure. And it would have cost them the 2014 title.

Mel_13
08-01-2014, 01:25 PM
Tony's contract history with the Spurs suggests that an extension at or near his max is a likely outcome.

Macca76
08-01-2014, 01:53 PM
Nice prediction :toast

Agloco
08-03-2014, 08:53 AM
3 years, $30-33 million. Partially guaranteed for 1/3 of his salary in his third season. After next season. That sounds fair

:lol

Fair to Spurfan = giving steep hometown discounts

We've been spoiled beyond belief

Agloco
08-03-2014, 09:01 AM
For a 3 year max extension signed before June 30, 2015:

2015-16: 13.44M
2016-17: 14.44M
2017-18: 15.45M

Just curious, those numbers are based o his current contract right?

cd021
08-03-2014, 10:05 AM
:lol

Fair to Spurfan = giving steep hometown discounts

We've been spoiled beyond belief

$11 million per down from $12.5 per isn't really a steep discount.

I also had another post were I said something like a 4 year, $45 million dollar deal for Parker.

Agloco
08-03-2014, 10:12 AM
$11 million per down from $12.5 per isn't really a steep discount.

I also had another post were I said something like a 4 year, $45 million dollar deal for Parker.

Yeah I'm looking more closely at the numbers...I suppose not. I should have said that "Spurfan will always underpay compared to what the front office will give." :lol

exstatic
08-03-2014, 10:41 AM
Just curious, those numbers are based o his current contract right?

Yup. Extensions are always based on allowable raises off of your current deal.

Agloco
08-03-2014, 10:57 AM
Yup. Extensions are always based on allowable raises off of your current deal.

Thank you good sir. I think the Spurs did Tony a solid here. :tu

hooperflash
08-07-2014, 05:43 AM
Do you remember all those trade Parker thread years ago?

Yes, I took a screenshot knowing that it'd come up in the future (now) .

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10577123_896103327071235_1689922048083233720_n.jpg ?oh=95856f71e5c960f1f58f496eab015588&oe=5439A9CA&__gda__=1414788768_961d0b937262755d3d59b37c197a918 1

cd021
08-08-2014, 11:36 PM
Parkers salary related to the cap

12-13-$58.0=21.5% of cap
13-14-$58.0=21.5% of cap
14-15-$63.3 =19.7% of cap
15-16-$67.3 (projected to jump $4 million)=19.9%

gambit1990
11-06-2016, 11:06 PM
3yr/60M do it RC! If "8" got 14M when he was 35, Parker deserves 20/yr
:lmao

dabom
11-06-2016, 11:08 PM
:lol

kaji157
11-06-2016, 11:15 PM
After the poor regular season and playoffs, now would probably be the perfect time to extend TP while his value is low.

You seemed right at the moment, too bad his value is falling like Enron in the 2000īs.

TheGreatYacht
11-06-2016, 11:26 PM
:lmao
Good bump tbh, can't believe years later Manure is still earning $14,000,000 to shit the bed.

Its insulting to TP that the TOSB makes the same salary as him.

MaNu4Tres
11-06-2016, 11:33 PM
Good bump tbh, can't believe years later Manure is still earning $14,000,000 to shit the bed.

Its insulting to TP that the TOSB makes the same salary as him.

You realize Manus 14 million had no impact on the moves they made this past summer, right?

You realize its a one yr deal right?

Biggest clown on Spurstalk.

Someone needs to start an All- Clown team on here and give them pink badges.

TheGreatYacht
11-06-2016, 11:36 PM
You realize Manus 14 million had no impact on the moves they made this past summer, right?

You realize its a one yr deal right?

Biggest clown on Spurstalk.

Someone needs to start an All- Clown team on here and give them pink badges.
Are you trying to get owned in back-to-back threads? :lol

respond to my other post before I go in with no Vaseline, scrub

tonight...you
11-06-2016, 11:56 PM
The Big 3 is dead. Long Live... Whatever The Hell This Team Can Cobble Together. Yay...

CGD
11-07-2016, 07:38 AM
would you do an RJ with Tony, and effectively refinance his deal next year?

3y/24M and Tony shifts to the bench? I think for a back up PG that is good value for a few more years.

SASdynasty!
11-07-2016, 07:51 AM
would you do an RJ with Tony, and effectively refinance his deal next year?

3y/24M and Tony shifts to the bench? I think for a back up PG that is good value for a few more years.
Yah let's move Tony to the bench so we can keep getting beat by 24 at home.

RD2191
11-07-2016, 07:59 AM
Biggest mistake in Spurs history.

Ice009
11-07-2016, 07:59 AM
Tony looks pretty much done. Whether or not he can admit it, the Spurs shouldn't have to keep him around for him to waste the team's time so he can find out that he's done. He can find out he's done someplace else.

Chinook
11-07-2016, 08:20 AM
would you do an RJ with Tony, and effectively refinance his deal next year?

3y/24M and Tony shifts to the bench? I think for a back up PG that is good value for a few more years.

Nah. I would seriously rather stretch him to pay him $5 Million a year to not play for the Spurs than pay him $8 Million to play. But the best option. Is probably to ride with Mills as the starter and Parker off the bench for the next two years, unless they can trade Tony.

CGD
11-07-2016, 08:57 AM
I get the feeling the Spurs are going to keep him after this deal anyway. Like manu they'll give him a legacy deal to help offset some of the years he took less money.

From a PR perspective the only way Tony leaves is if he asks to be dealt.

Chinook
11-07-2016, 09:10 AM
I get the feeling the Spurs are going to keep him after this deal anyway. Like manu they'll give him a legacy deal to help offset some of the years he took less money.

From a PR perspective the only way Tony leaves is if he asks to be dealt.

Parker's getting his backpay now. And I don't think moving on from Parker would be a huge PR problem. Manu? Maybe. Not Tony.