2014 Washington ***skins season thread sponsored by we will be gone by week four

[Ditty]

Hopefully cornbread, and our defense can get their shit together, as I get to see the skins play twice in Texas this year.

I predict we will go 9-7.

Win the wildcard and lose in the divisional round.

HTTR

[Bigzax]

REDSKINS! Make or break year for Griffin.

[Kyle Orton]

Wildcard with 9 wins? Gonna be tough

i can see anything from 6-10 to 11-5 division win. The offensive talent is there across the board and the receiving corp is stacked. Hopefully the QB and OL don't shit the bed again this season

d is gonna be shaky as usual but the pass rush on paper is much improved and i think old ass Ryan Clark will be an improvement over the dogshit we had back there in the secondary last year. First 4 weeks will give us a preview of the season IMO. Houston, jax, Philly and then the giants. Looking forward to it

[Avante]

The Skins have one of the weakess OL's in the league, they don't have one position that is among the best in the league. They did draft to help the line but rookies are always...?

They could be 2-0 but then it gets tough. I can see....8-8...but more 9-7 than 7-9.

I do look for Cousins to end up QBing the team. Griffen needs to run, which means...ouch!

[Ditty]

REDSKINS! Make or break year for Griffin.

I agree on this if he struggles again, I can see some serious doubt coming from the front office about him. He looks very confident coming into camp, and if any quarterback is going to work their ass off to improve his game it will be G3.


Wildcard with 9 wins? Gonna be tough

i can see anything from 6-10 to 11-5 division win. The offensive talent is there across the board and the receiving corp is stacked. Hopefully the QB and OL don't shit the bed again this season

d is gonna be shaky as usual but the pass rush on paper is much improved and i think old ass Ryan Clark will be an improvement over the dogshit we had back there in the secondary last year. First 4 weeks will give us a preview of the season IMO. Houston, jax, Philly and then the giants. Looking forward to it

I was thinking we could win the division going 9-7. Cowboys will be shit, especially if Romo can't stay healthy. Giants even if they had a solid offseason are declining, and the Eagles will miss Djax. The receiving lineup of DJax,Garcon,Roberts and Reed is definitely going to be one of the best in the NFL. I like the pass rushing attack of Baker,Cofield,Hatcher, Kerrigan, and Orakpo. They should be putting alot of pressure on the QB to help the secondary. The only concern on defense is our ILB. I'm not a big fan of Perry Riley, and Kennan Robinson did show some promise his rookie season on special teams, but he can't stay healthy. If our secondary can play to standards, then I like our chances. I really like this Amerson kid, I think he is going to be something special. Hopefully Hall can have a great season again, and it will be nice if Rambo/Thomas can show some promise also. I liked the Ryan Clark signing, he is really going to provide leadership at least for the secondary.

Hopefully our special teams will improve this year especially on returns we sucked balls last year. Hopefully with Richard Crawford back he will out. I cringe every time freaking Niles Paul returns kickoffs. He is so slow.


The Skins have one of the weakess OL's in the league, they don't have one position that is among the best in the league. They did draft to help the line but rookies are always...?

They could be 2-0 but then it gets tough. I can see....8-8...but more 9-7 than 7-9.

I do look for Cousins to end up QBing the team. Griffen needs to run, which means...ouch!

I believe our receivers corps is one of the best in the league. On the line outside of Trent Williams we are very questionable. They brought Chris Chester who imo was the shittiest out of all of them. Hopefully Lichentsteinger will be better at C, and Leribeus fat ass is in shape this year to take Chester's spot. If RG3 struggles again, I can see a possible quarterback competition next year but I think they will stick with him all the way unless it gets ugly like last year.

[Kyle Orton]

Yea we need a fuckin line cause even causes was getting killed back there, not just N!gger. lol going like 16/40 against the giants despite being a white QB

[Kyle Orton]

If gruden can make dalton look like a decent QB then I am hoping he can maximize N!gger because he has all the physical tools needed to succeed except the color of his skin IMO

[Ditty]

:hat So ready even if I got a fucking exam at 5:30.

[DJR210]

:lmao @ "***skins"

[bigzak25]

We get the monday nighter vs manziel. Ill just enjoy the ride while it lasts. Drink up and enjoy til the next knee injury!

[Ditty]

Any of y'all texas niggas going to any of the games?

[Kyle Orton]

Gonna try and go to the cowboys game. I think it's on a Monday night

jerryworld tix are fuckin expensive tho for shit seats

[Kyle Orton]

Football starts vs us Monday. Gonna be disappointed in that faggot hazlet if he can't even stop the same Kyle shannahan offense he has been practicing against the last 4 years

curious to see how knee performs also, desean and Pierre should play. He looked alright last game going through progressions but he did hold the ball way too long one play and stared down Alfred on another play

[Ditty]

So ready for Sunday. Will be leaving San Antonio on Saturday, and attending the Redskins rally at Lucky's across the street from minute maid park. Hope to meet some former skins players, then got lower level tickets for Sunday's game and hope to get some autographs from some current players.

[DPG21920]

When you give RG3 the pen, be sure to hold the paper way over your head and then jump so the autograph has a chance to land.

[bigzak25]

maybe he lost a step, maybe he can't slide, maybe half our ol sucks, but fuck it, I want no excuses for RG3, he's "healthy", and he's got the weapons.

[spurraider21]

:lmao 3 first round picks for RG3
:lmao got Cousins for just a 4th

[Ditty]

Tough game to lose, but I think losing Hall possibly for the season is a little tougher. He hadn't played good so far this season, but he is one of the best secondary tacklers in the league, and does a fantastic job against Dez Bryant, and other number one receivers.If only Breeland would of caught that interception, if Kai would of made that easy a simple field goal or Cousins could of got just one first down in the last drive we would be 2-1. I believe the division will come down to the Skins and Eagles but we got to stay as healthy as possible. Hopefully we can get that W against the G men. Tired of losing to division rivals.

[Kyle Orton]

Usually pissed off as fuck after a loss but yesterday didn't sting at all. We played a great game against the number one offense at their place. I was expecting to get blown out but one could say we outplayed the eagles. I believe we out gained them by 180 yards or so iirc

That kickoff return for a TD and the missed 30 yard field goal fucked us. That's a 10 point swing right there. The d layed an egg the last drive in the first half but they played a better second half. Definitely seeing some improvement. Losing hall sucks tho but breeland/amerson are our future so they will get their shot tbh. Cousins needed to move the ball just 10-15 fuckin yards and couldn't get it done. Still a great game and very winnable if we didn't have the worse special teams in the league for the second straight year. Fuck.

[Kyle Orton]

Offense is looking great tho and in rhythm. Crazy to say that desean hasn't really done shit this year so far even tho he put up like 120 yards last game.

[Aztecfan03]

That d-lineman who hit Foles and complained about getting ejected saying "I was just making a football pay" is an idiot.

[Kyle Orton]

That d-lineman who hit Foles and complained about getting ejected saying "I was just making a football pay" is an idiot.
It was a dirty hit but it's retarded that on a change of possession a QB can try to attempt a tackle 5 yards away yet still be protected by the rules. Still a dumbass play tho

i like how everyone is conveniently ignoring the dirty LATE hit on cousins after the whistle was blown on a fucking delay of game penalty. The offensive players all stopped yet Boykin lit cousins up

[Aztecfan03]

It was a dirty hit but it's retarded that on a change of possession a QB can try to attempt a tackle 5 yards away yet still be protected by the rules. Still a dumbass play tho

i like how everyone is conveniently ignoring the dirty LATE hit on cousins after the whistle was blown on a fucking delay of game penalty. The offensive players all stopped yet Boykin lit cousins up

Didn't watch the game just saw the clips on sportscenter. Foles was almost stopped when he was hit because the play was over.

[Kyle Orton]

Lol shitskins


Domo ♌ ‏@Domo_HTTR 7m
#Redskins have the #4 ranked Defense and #2 ranked Offense in the NFL. Why are they 1-2? 32nd ranked Special Teams

[Aztecfan03]

Lol shitskins


Domo ♌ ‏@Domo_HTTR 7m
#Redskins have the #4 ranked Defense and #2 ranked Offense in the NFL. Why are they 1-2? 32nd ranked Special Teams

Sounds like the Chargers a couple years ago. I think we had statistically the #1 offense and the #1 defense but we missed the playoffs. We had at least a couple punts blocked that year.

[bigzak25]

Fuck u orton.

[Ditty]

Fuck we sucked yesterday. Our cornerbacks were playing off the receiver too much, and Eli was just picking on our worse coverage defenders Biggers,Riley and Meriweather the whole night. They didn't give our defensive line enough push to get Eli. Polumbus continues to blow even without RG3. Cousins was staring down his receivers too much, and was useless when his favorite target Niles Paul went down with the concussion, and didn't want to throw to stone hands Paulsen anymore when he got ripped. I understand we can't be too predictable on offense, but Morris was killing it starting in the second half, they should of kept running with him until the Giants could stop the running attack but they end up passing I believe the next three plays and Kirk gets picked off by a tipped throw and his confidence goes to shit. Hope with all these days off the guys dealing with nagging injuries can recover, and we can get Reed back to give us another weapon.

[bigzak25]

Bring on the Seahawks!

[The Gemini Method]

Seattle 77 Redskins 14 -- Book It!

[bigzak25]

Nfl is fixed, I think we cover. But I'm no avante.

[DMX7]

The liberal media most be so pissed that they haven't successfully pressured the Redskins into changing their name.

rnK-jYzaWtw

[Ditty]

I guess I'm the only one left now :cry

Here goes nothing tonight :cry

[bigzak25]

The hell you ain't alone. I'm a diehard. To the end...lets get some...fuck the seahawks!

[bigzak25]

Well it was good while it lasted...at least we were tied 0-0 for a couple minutes.

[bigzak25]

Yeah! Fuck the seahawks!

[bigzak25]

Td muthafuckas!

[Ditty]

Kyle Orton Get in here and spin this shit we lost by 10!:elephant:downspin:

In all seriousness this would of been a nice game to win. I thought we played well at times, but the onside kicked fucked us over with field position the rest of the game, and McVag busted out the Kyle Shanahan play conservative until we have to score no matter what playbook. If we lose next week pretty much shut the window, and hammer it with nails especially if the rest of the NFC East keeps winning. I want to see the Skins play one more time this season in Dallas, but not with a record of 1-6 or 2-5. :madrun.

[Kyle Orton]

It pisses me off cause the team is a lot more talented than what their win loss record is. The line is still shit and haslett has to fucking go. Not sure what he has done the past few years to show that he deserves a job because he is fucking trash. Cousins looked alright vs the best d in the league but I'm not sold on him. Still think rg3 gets the job when he returns unless cousins goes HAM the next few games. Looks like our run game has gone to shit with shanny gone too unfortunately

MVP of the season is tress way IMO. Scrubs so far are biggers(not surprising), meriweather(not surprising), Chester and polumbus (not surprising) and perry Riley

[Kyle Orton]

Morgan Moses looked like shit in his brief time yesterday also so he has a LONG way to go. Just fucking fire Bruce and get a real GM. He doesn't know shit. You don't draft a premium like Trent Murphy in round two when you have a fuck ton of needs. Fuck this faggot team

[Kyle Orton]

https://vine.co/v/OKdPVAvYmIw

[Aztecfan03]

https://vine.co/v/OKdPVAvYmIw
:lol What an idiot.

[spurraider21]

https://vine.co/v/OKdPVAvYmIw
it wasn't his fault. its because seahawks cheat :cry

[Ditty]

Not the prettiest win against a shitty team like ours, but I will take it. Brian "$11 million a year" Orakpo out for the season tearing his right pectoral muscle this time, and probably has played his last game for the Redskins. I really like this Trent Murphy kid to replace Orakpo, he really plays his ass off, but some skins fans think he looks to small, and I'm like isn't he the same size as MVKerrigan? A win against the Cowboys which unfortunately going to have to miss the game this year :cry will give us a good chance to possibly play for something at least in early-mid December, as I think we should beat the Vikings and Bucs and get back to .500 before we have a date with the niners and colts. I'm keeping the faith! Hail!

[Spur-Addict]

Colt Mutha F'in McCoy :cry

[Robz4000]

:cry Christ McCoy era finally begins :cry

[The Gemini Method]

:cry the Cult of McCoy domination starts :cry Peyton Manning' record is not safe. He needs to put up 758 to be clear of McCoy tbh.

[bigzak25]

Fuck the cowboys. Lets get some.

[Ditty]

Fuck the cowboys. Lets get some.

Hail baby! Hail!

[Avante]

The Skins can win the game today, if....

1.run back a kick or punt
2.block a kick
3.win the turnover battle
4.win the penalty battle
5.McKoy is red hot while Tony Romo is cold as ice.

That's all it will take.

[Ditty]

The Skins can win the game today, if....

1.run back a kick or punt (Sort of Roberts had a nice punt return at the beginning)
2.block a kick (didn't happen)
3.win the turnover battle (Won 2-1 I believe minus the last place)
4.win the penalty battle (Redskins had more penalties)
5.McKoy is red hot while Tony Romo is cold as ice. (McCoy came through when he need too, and the blitz destroyed Romo tonight)

That's all it will take.

[Ditty]

Anyway fuck yeah Redskins won! Superbowl bound Kyle Orton and bigzak25

[lefty]

WE WILL SEE

[Spur-Addict]

Colt Mutha F'in McCoy :cry

:cry

[Kyle Orton]

Great fuckin team win. Got a minny, bye and tampa next 3 weeks. All winnable games so hopefully we can get back to 500 with RG coming back. Favorite game since week 17 2012 tbh

[Kyle Orton]

Desean has more yards in this game than dez vs Washington in his last 3 games. We play him very well tbh

Breeland and amerson are thug niggas

[lefty]

WE STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED

[The Gemini Method]

lol Lerfty with his true allegiance...

[Ditty]

WE STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED

Fuck off Lefty

[lefty]

:lol

[The Gemini Method]

Lefty the brown skin rootin' for the red skins!

[lefty]

Lefty the brown skin rootin' for the red skins!
Im white, idiot :lol

[The Gemini Method]

Im white, idiot :lol

How the fuck would I know? I don't know what color you are.

[lefty]

How the fuck would I know? I don't know what color you are.
:lol

[Spur-Addict]

"NO MEANS NO!"

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2214892/thumbs/s-SKINS-large.jpg

[jeebus]

:lol


:lol lefty, mein nigga, welcome to the winning side

[Silver&Black]

Great fuckin team win. Got a minny, bye and tampa next 3 weeks. All winnable games so hopefully we can get back to 500 with RG coming back. Favorite game since week 17 2012 tbh

:wow What about Colt McGod/McChrist/McJesus?

How bout we trade you Vincent Jackson for him???

[jeebus]

:lol RG3andOut will probably be starting this week

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Who starts after halftime though?

[lefty]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896), mein nigga, welcome to the winning side
Ve vill rise

[Chris]

lol suRG3ry
lol Colt McCoy back to holding clipboards

[lefty]

Rg3 is back ?

Fuck that shit Im out

[Ditty]

Rg3 is back ?

Fuck that shit Im out

Good.

[lefty]

Good.

Great

[spurraider21]

http://106.imagebam.com/download/ApjmtY6vT02nRJJ7RmFDWw/28960/289590178/monkeyball2.gif

[Ditty]

http://106.imagebam.com/download/ApjmtY6vT02nRJJ7RmFDWw/28960/289590178/monkeyball2.gif

Yeah I'm not a big fan of starting RG3. Colt has all the confidence in the world right now. Go with him until he fucks up. No need to rush RG3 back on the road.

[bigzak25]

Fuck rg ...just win.

[jeebus]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/11/16/7231173/washington-fans-boo-rg3-colt-mccoy-chat


:lol

[Ditty]

Well it looks like the RG3 era is coming to an end, and that sucks! Yesterday I blame both the offensive line, and RG3 for putting up seven points against one of the worst defenses in the league. Outside of Trent Williams, who I pray will be back next week, everyone else is pretty much crap on that line. At times RG3 would be panicking two seconds inside the pocket, and didn't have enough time to read the coverage, and see the receivers that were open. At the same time the few times RG3 had good protection, he held the ball too long and overthrew some of his targets. I hope the Redskins give him one more season, with a redefined offensive line outside of Trent Williams too see what he's got. I would love Andrus Peat from Standford to be our top pick and future right tackle, that would be some great protection on the edges for whoever our quarterback will be. For the rest of the season you can start Colt McCoy, but as much as I love the Redskins I hope they don't start winning meaningless games too screw up there draft position like 2011. Well maybe except beating the Cowboys again on the last week of the season .I hope Snyder understands how much he give up for RG3, and the type of offensive line he put around him to give him one more chance next year. At the same time he knows a lot of Redskins fans are impatient, and are going to be calling for his head if Robert is the starting quarterback next season.

Also please fire Jim Haslett after the Cowboys game in week 17, and give Bruce Allen one more season to put a solid team together or kick him to the curb also.

[Ditty]

Couldn't have said it any better Mr. Mitchell!

QuCFRyZPr4o

[Raven]

^ dayum

[Trill Clinton]

Couldn't have said it any better Mr. Mitchell!

QuCFRyZPr4o

http://i60.tinypic.com/14lro8h.gif

mitchell kept it 100. its easy to blame the qb but the entire team has been trash...especially that defense. lol haslett should have been gone a loooong time ago. but yea, i'm loving the skins and giants teams struggling right now.

[bigzak25]

Hopefully this is griffins last start. I expect the shit show with him behind center to continue, so with any luck, we see Colt by the 2nd half and from here on out. Griffin for a 4th...any takers...lol.

[Ditty]

Hopefully this is griffins last start. I expect the shit show with him behind center to continue, so with any luck, we see Colt by the 2nd half and from here on out. Griffin for a 4th...any takers...lol.

It would a Snyder type of move to give up on a quarterback this early, so I wouldn't be shocked if Griffin isn't back next year. At the same time, what are his options? Marcus Mariota would be nice, but he is going in the top three pick. I think Redskins will somehow manage to still win two or three more games the rest on the year to be around 5th-8th pick. As talented as he is, I don't want no part of Jameis Winston he has Red Flags all over him. As our quarterbacks go, Kirk Cousins looks like he is a little worse Rex Grossman as being way too inconsistent; As much as Colt McCoy fan boy I can sometimes be, especially being a Texas kid his upside is meh, and isn't a franchise quarterback. The defense won the game, as much as he did against the Cowboys. I've never played quarterback, but I would like to say that Griffin's problems are correctable, such as learning how to read a defense, learn to throw the ball away, and not hold on the ball for too long. Of course a good, not great offensive line could help these problems imo. That's why I hope they draft a right tackle in the first round instead to help Robert out. I hate to say this, but drafting the Cowboys way could benefit everyone on the offensive end.

[bigzak25]

I'm all for building the line Ditty, but we'll have to disagree about griffin, he's done.

[Kyle Orton]

LOL at drafting mariota

you take this years draft and draft pure offensive line, defensive line and safety. Maybe a LB too. Take that 5-9 pick and trade down to the teens to pick up a draft pick. Maybe a second or third. Go into next season with an open QB camp between cousins and griffin and ride them out. Draft a QB in 15

we are years away, drafting a QB and breaking him behind this shitty line again isn't the right thing to do

[spurraider21]

LOL at drafting mariota

you take this years draft and draft pure offensive line, defensive line and safety. Maybe a LB too. Take that 5-9 pick and trade down to the teens to pick up a draft pick. Maybe a second or third. Go into next season with an open QB camp between cousins and griffin and ride them out. Draft a QB in 15

we are years away, drafting a QB and breaking him behind this shitty line again isn't the right thing to do
yeah but if they're convinced on mariota as "the guy" its worth it to draft him and bench him for a year

[Kyle Orton]

yeah but if they're convinced on mariota as "the guy" its worth it to draft him and bench him for a year
At this point idk why anyone in the organization would believe in a black QB that comes from a spread system but it is Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen so who knows

[Spur-Addict]

yeah but if they're convinced on mariota as "the guy" its worth it to draft him and bench him for a year

Don't worry, The Jags will accidentally win a game or two.

[Kyle Orton]

Don't worry, The Jags will accidentally win a game or two.
Knowing the skins they will probably win some bullshit games at the end of the year to fuck up their draft position like 2011

[DPG21920]

http://i60.tinypic.com/14lro8h.gif

mitchell kept it 100. its easy to blame the qb but the entire team has been trash...especially that defense. lol haslett should have been gone a loooong time ago. but yea, i'm loving the skins and giants teams struggling right now.

It's easy to blame the QB because he's the worst player on the team. Not only did they give up a ton for him, but people kept telling everyone he was elite and truly a franchise player. If you aren't willing to admit people were laughably wrong or liars, then the blame should land on him. Especially when "lesser" QB's can come in and beat a scorching hot Dallas team.

[Spur-Addict]

Knowing the skins they will probably win some bullshit games at the end of the year to fuck up their draft position like 2011

Well, they shouldn't bench RG3 if they don't want this to happen :lol

[Horse]

With the talent at the skill positions I say draft O-linemen and safeties maybe a qb late they can develop. But with decent protection any vet Qb can manage this offense into a pretty good team.

[Ditty]

LOL at drafting mariota

you take this years draft and draft pure offensive line, defensive line and safety. Maybe a LB too. Take that 5-9 pick and trade down to the teens to pick up a draft pick. Maybe a second or third. Go into next season with an open QB camp between cousins and griffin and ride them out. Draft a QB in 15

we are years away, drafting a QB and breaking him behind this shitty line again isn't the right thing to do

:lol I don't watch much college football, but I haven't heard anything bad about him. Doesn't have the hype of Luck, so I guess he isn't as good as you say.

Some skins fans want to draft Brett Hundley, but I've heard he sucks also :bang

If I was Bruce Allen if he is still the GM by the time the draft comes around I would draft:

1st Round-OT
2nd Round-SS or DE/DT
3rd Round-SS or DE/DT
4th Round-CB or C
5th Round-CB or C
6th Round-Guard
7th Round-WR or RB that can return punts and kickoffs.

I agree, have a quarterback competition with Robert,Kirk and Colt next year. Get rid of Chester, and Lauvao. If we are struggling again then 2016 draft we are getting a quarterback in the first.

[Raven]

no idea why they went away from cousins, i mean ok the TOs, but at least he could throw and at least he doesn't get injured making retarded runs... It was gruden's offense that made him a gunslinger in the first place.. mccoy obviously isn't the answer for anything since they are out of contention anyway.. It's crazy, but they have to spend another high pick in a qb..

[Kyle Orton]

no idea why they went away from cousins, i mean ok the TOs, but at least he could throw and at least he doesn't get injured making retarded runs... It was gruden's offense that made him a gunslinger in the first place.. mccoy obviously isn't the answer for anything since they are out of contention anyway.. It's crazy, but they have to spend another high pick in a qb..
Even last year cousins had turnover problems. Yeah he puts up yards but dude throws picks like candy

[chunticakes]

Word on the street is that Knee is being benched Sunday. Colt McChrist is gonna take the Colts down.

[Ditty]

Why? What's the point of trying to win games. :lol

I hate this team sometimes, makes no sense especially if they're saying that RG3 is still going to be the franchise quarterback :lol

[Raven]

Why? What's the point of trying to win games. :lol

I hate this team sometimes, makes no sense especially if they're saying that RG3 is still going to be the franchise quarterback :lol
i think it's the right call, can't teach Knee anything if he gets trainfucked the next time he steps on the floor tbh

[Spur-Addict]

Well, they shouldn't bench RG3 if they don't want this to happen :lol

:lol

Dang, I would've rather they let this ride out until the end of the year if I were a Skins fan. Meaningless win time that will mess up the best possible draft position

[jeebus]

:lol

Dang, I would've rather they let this ride out until the end of the year if I were a Skins fan. Meaningless win time that will mess up the best possible draft position
son, Colt McGod knows what he's doing. We all know he can go out and win the rest of the games by 30+ points, but he doesn't want to show his hand this season. He'll win some, lose some, to keep a decent draft pick. CIA Colt imo.

[Malik Hairston]

It's a stupid decision to bench him if they're still planning on keeping him next year, but seems like there's virtually no chance that he will with Washington..

They better hope McCoy is decent, though, as a stop-gap for next year while they fix their O-line and other issues..you can't start Cousins, he's one of the worst QBs I've ever seen, tbh..

[Spur-Addict]

son, Colt McGod knows what he's doing. We all know he can go out and win the rest of the games by 30+ points, but he doesn't want to show his hand this season. He'll win some, lose some, to keep a decent draft pick. CIA Colt imo.

Fair enough :lol

[DPG21920]

It's a stupid decision to bench him if they're still planning on keeping him next year, but seems like there's virtually no chance that he will with Washington..

They better hope McCoy is decent, though, as a stop-gap for next year while they fix their O-line and other issues..you can't start Cousins, he's one of the worst QBs I've ever seen, tbh..

Cousins for all his faults ha had better throws than RG3 and a better game (against PHI) than RG3 has had in 2 years.

RG3 has been terrible and deserves to be benched. Kirk or Colt don't have to be be decent because RG3 is not decent.

[Malik Hairston]

RG3 sucks now, tbh, but like many other washed up players before him(like current Eli Manning, for example), he's living on name and the reputation he built based on his rookie season..in sports, you earn the benefit of the doubt and respect from previous performance, despite your actual, present performance(shit, a lot of Spurs fans were desperate for Danny Granger last year:lol)..

Cousins has played in 2 separate seasons, and he looked like he didn't belong in the NFL..

[spurraider21]

RG3 is living off a name, Eli Manning is living of a name and 2 great playoff/superbowl runs tbh

[DPG21920]

Disagree. RG3 had one great year when he was a gimmick with no game plan against him but the past two years have exposed how bad he truly is. Kirk hasn't shined, but he's had no where the amount of opportunity that RG3 has had and Kirks had the highest upside game (against PHI) in the past 2 years.

Kirk has always had to come in under rough circumstances (not named a starter, fans loving RG3 and wanting him to fail, ect..). Kirk sucks, but he doesn't have to be great because RG3 is awful. Same for Colt.

[Chris]

lmao Redskins :lmao

[Malik Hairston]

Like I said, RG3 sucks, but the alternatives are even worse..

Just a disaster of a franchise, tbh, they need a major overhaul..

That Rams trade is looking like worse and worse..

[Kyle Orton]

skins need to fire haslett and morris (DC and secondary coach), promote bruce allen from GM to President and hire someone else from a succesful organization to be GM. We have AJ smith in the organization now and he can draft but he also fucked San Diego. He is better than the current garbage in the FO right now though. We cant draft for shit.

Keep RG3 this year for the 3 million we owe him in his final year and see how he plays in year 2 of the offense with hopefully a revamped line. Go into this draft and trade down the number 5 pick to get a few more picks. Target primarily O Line and Safety, maybe a LB and make the switch back to the 4-3 where we do currently have the pieces for that.

RG3 doesnt live up to the expectations then you draft a QB in 2016 when his deal expires. We cant afford to draft a qb high again with so many other holes on the team, every fucking qb on our roster this year was taking hits after 2 seconds because of a terrible fucking line. Finally, dont fucking rush this. We are 2-4 years away from contending for the playoffs so patience is needed. And fuck Snyder

[Kyle Orton]

What RG3 showed me the last 3 games of the season are encouraging tho. He was for the most part decisive witht he ball, took less sacks, went through his reads and moved the ball on offense. Its a growing process but it is a huge contrast to the shitshow "100 yards passing" SF and Tampa games.

[Ditty]

skins need to fire haslett and morris (DC and secondary coach), promote bruce allen from GM to President and hire someone else from a succesful organization to be GM. We have AJ smith in the organization now and he can draft but he also fucked San Diego. He is better than the current garbage in the FO right now though. We cant draft for shit.

Keep RG3 this year for the 3 million we owe him in his final year and see how he plays in year 2 of the offense with hopefully a revamped line. Go into this draft and trade down the number 5 pick to get a few more picks. Target primarily O Line and Safety, maybe a LB and make the switch back to the 4-3 where we do currently have the pieces for that.

RG3 doesnt live up to the expectations then you draft a QB in 2016 when his deal expires. We cant afford to draft a qb high again with so many other holes on the team, every fucking qb on our roster this year was taking hits after 2 seconds because of a terrible fucking line. Finally, dont fucking rush this. We are 2-4 years away from contending for the playoffs so patience is needed. And fuck Snyder

Haslett is supposedly in high spirits today, but a lot of players think he is going to get fired. He's been here two years too long, along with Morriss and Foerster. I'll be happy with either Vic Fangio, Rex Ryan or Wade Phillips as our next defensive coordinator. Imo Fangio will get a head coaching gig, Ryan will sit out a year and try to get a head coaching position next year, and I've heard Wade Phillips is enjoying "retirement". Hopefully Wes Phillips who is a tight ends coach for us will influence him to coach here. Switching back to a 4-3 defense wouldn't be a bad deal also, we seem to have players to switch especially if Murphy gets bigger to play defensive end. Redskins fans seem to love Eric Decosta from Baltimore to be there next GM, but many think he is waiting to take over when Ozzie Newsome retires, but the word is Newsome ain't retiring anytime soon, so if Snyder brings out his checkbook hopefully it can sway him in if they're mutually interested. I've heard positive and negative things about AJ Smith, so I wouldn't be too upset if given a chance. RG3 is going to stay at least one more year, but I hope it will be a quarterback competition when training camp starts. Of course RG3 will have the advantage as he played solid for the most part against the Giants, Eagles and Cowboys, and all we have invested in him.

I've heard Shane Ray DE/OLB from Missouri might be a target for the fifth pick, and some say he could be the next Von Miller. We really don't have a need too much for OLB as that is one of our few strengths unless they convert Trent Murphy as 3-4 DE which he is probably too small right now to make that chance. Of course Leonard Williams will be most ideal, but he isn't get past the Jaguars at number three though. If not it would be nice like you mentioned to possibly move back a few spots maybe get Scherff from Iowa to play left guard, move Luavao to play his natural position as a right guard, or bring spencer long to play RG also and give Morgan Moses one more year as right tackle. The first three picks should be DE/DT,RT/Guard and safety in no order, no exceptions.

[Ditty]

What a fucking joke :lol
I hope Gruden is fired next year also, if he is on board with this idiot.

Gruden:"I have a lot of respect for jim Haslett" said Haz had his hands tied by injuries "would i recommend keeping him? Yes."

[Ditty]

A little more encouraging
Gruden: "I promise you this will not be the same football team, same staff next year."

[Kyle Orton]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m2 minutes ago
Sources: #Redskins reached out to respected personnel man Scot McCloughan about being a top executive for them. Was out of football in ’14.


McCloughan drafted Dashon Goldson, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Joe Staley and Patrick Willis during his time with the 49ers as GM and VP of football operations. He then helped identify key players for Seattle such as Richard Sherman, Russell Wilson, K.J. Wright and Bobby Wagner that allowed Seattle to win their first Super Bowl.

[Kyle Orton]

Finally a step in the rigjt direction. This would be huge. Get a fucking GM, let him run the fucking draft and draft his own fucking head coach and tell Snyder to get the fuck out of the way for 6 months. This would be the first right thing Snyder has done his entire ownership

[Ditty]

Finally a step in the rigjt direction. This would be huge. Get a fucking GM, let him run the fucking draft and draft his own fucking head coach and tell Snyder to get the fuck out of the way for 6 months. This would be the first right thing Snyder has done his entire ownership

:toast

I hope Scot will be give complete control of the roster if he is hired. I think we have a good shot with him and Allen being good friends. Not sure what AJ Smith, or Bruce Allen's role should be but Bruce shouldn't be anywhere near the players except working out the numbers for players contracts which is his only good reputation now so I wish he would just be given team president duties. Hopefully AJ would have more of an emphasis when it comes to the scouting, and get rid of some the Redskins scouts. Then get Wade Phillips in here now that Haslett is gone!

[Ditty]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000454845/article/scot-mccloughan-to-be-redskins-new-general-manager

Get Wade Phillips in here next, and I'm going to be excited for the next 2-3 years for this franchise!

[bigzak25]

Championship!

[Ditty]

Championship!

It will be nice if we look like an up and coming wildcard/divisional round team this year with Bob showing a lot more flashes of 2012. I know a lot of Skins fans will be happy if we don't finish last again next year. Anything 7-9 or better will keep Gruden/RG3's job imo. Still a lot of work to be done, but the potential is there on both sides of the balls with good coaching.

Rest of the offseason with personnel: hire wade/fangino/donatell maybe Mangini just not barry from san diego as defensive coordinator; get a qb coach/playcaller Brad Childress name has been throw around because he helped develop Donovan McNabb; fire foerster the offensive line coach and bring back maybe Russ Grimm who helped develop Samuels and Jansen back in the days.

[Kyle Orton]

I love our new GM. I was listening to espn 980 and 106.7 today after his press conference. All 3 were awesome and it's refreshing listening to someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about unlike Bruce. Dude is all about building thru the draft, building up the offense and defensive lines and taking BPA. He isn't a big FA person. I'm sold. Be patient redskin fans, it's a process but I'm confident in him and I think we will have a solid roster by the end of year 3