Oakland Raiders to San Antonio?

[Blake]

SAN ANTONIO — Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two top lieutenants met recently with several San Antonio officials to discuss the potential of moving his NFL team from the Bay Area to the Alamo City, sources familiar with the matter have confirmed.
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entire article:

http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-sports/article/Oakland-Raiders-owner-in-talks-with-SA-to-5654812.php


Lol San Antonio getting used again

[xmas1997]

I posted this already in the NFL forum, but posting it here too is a good idea IMHO.

[spurraider21]

going to law school in Cali then taking the Texas bar is going to be retarded tbh

[xmas1997]

It appears that Davis also had meetings with both Peter Holt and Red McCombs who both expressed their willingness to invest in the Raiders if they moved here.
A new stadium would need to be built within the next few years if they moved here.
Plus it would need the blessing of 24 of the leagues 32 owners, and we already know Jerry Jones will fight it.
Davis also took aerial photos of the area while he was here too.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Why would he move to a dump called the Alamodome when he could move to a dump called the LA Coliseum in Los Angeles?

[xmas1997]

San Antonio has the funds set aside to expand the seating and add more luxury suites and be ready by the 2014-15 NFL season.
And it would be just a temporary fix for about 3 years until a more modern facility were built, the same stadium they were going to build for the Saints.
Added to the Austin TV marketshares, which they should insist on doing this time, the TV maketshares go up from the 30s to ..........

[djohn2oo8]

Wouldn't make sense. Jerry would never allow it nor would UT. Raiders should move back to LA

[spurraider21]

what's with this Jerry won't allow it talk :lol

[Hoover]

Nobody in San Antonio or Austin is going to go before the taxpayers with a proposal to spend $600-750M on a new stadium.

IT.

WON'T.

HAPPEN.

Cannot believe people fall for this crap EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS. LA needs a team, LA has a incredibly superior market, existing stadium, way more rich investors, etc etc. If they are moving it will be to LA.

[spurraider21]

Nobody in San Antonio or Austin is going to go before the taxpayers with a proposal to spend $600-750M on a new stadium.

IT.

WON'T.

HAPPEN.

Cannot believe people fall for this crap EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS. LA needs a team, LA has a incredibly superior market, existing stadium, way more rich investors, etc etc. If they are moving it will be to LA.
thats been the case for nearly 20 years

[xmas1997]

Nobody in San Antonio or Austin is going to go before the taxpayers with a proposal to spend $600-750M on a new stadium.IT.WON'T.HAPPEN.
Cannot believe people fall for this crap EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS. LA needs a team, LA has a incredibly superior market, existing stadium, way more rich investors, etc etc. If they are moving it will be to LA.

Not true.
Alaomdome officials have had serious preliminary talks with team owners and city fathers but say they are in the initial stages at this point according to news reports.

They also said they have the money already set aside to expand the seating and add luxury suites, also according to news reports.

And here is what Jerry Jones said about it today to reporters:


“I thought it was somebody joking with me when they came out about them going to San [Antonio]. So I don’t have any comment other than how valued I feel and the Cowboys feel about our fans in San Antonio,” Jones said. “I am very pleased that we have the fan base that we have down there and the percentage of fans that we have; I think it is 97, 98, 99 percent Cowboys fans in that area… It would be difficult for [the Raiders] to make headway. I’ll make sure of that. That would be very difficult.”

[djohn2oo8]

what's with this Jerry won't allow it talk :lol
When the Saints were legitimately considering moving to SA, Jerry flat out said it would never happen. SA and east Texas in general is Cowboy nation. He is cashing in and won't let anything get in the way of that.

[Blake]

San Antonio has the funds set aside to expand the seating and add more luxury suites and be ready by the 2014-15 NFL season.
And it would be just a temporary fix for about 3 years until a more modern facility were built, the same stadium they were going to build for the Saints.
Added to the Austin TV marketshares, which they should insist on doing this time, the TV maketshares go up from the 30s to ..........

TV market talk is irrelevant since all the TVs in SA and Austin are already on watching the Cowboys.

[xmas1997]

When the Saints were legitimately considering moving to SA, Jerry flat out said it would never happen. SA and east Texas in general is Cowboy nation. He is cashing in and won't let anything get in the way of that.

Does JJ still have that much influence any more?
He succeeded in 2005 with the Saints, but it has been a long time since then.
Plus lets not forget the Saints sold out all three games they played here, SRO.

[Huey Freeman]

Does JJ still have that much influence any more?
He succeeded in 2005 with the Saints, but it has been a long time since then.
Plus lets not forget the Saints sold out all four games they played here, SRO.

An owner's influence is not based on if their team has won any thing lately. Cowboys are still the most valuable team in the NFL (2nd most valuable sports franchise in the United States). If Jerry has an opinion, people in the NFL (Goodell etc...) will listen.

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL San Antonio getting used like a $20 whore again.

[leemajors]

An owner's influence is not based on if their team has won any thing lately. Cowboys are still the most valuable team in the NFL (2nd most valuable sports franchise in the United States). If Jerry has an opinion, people in the NFL (Goodell etc...) will listen.

Yup, Jerry has made the league a shitload of money, not just himself.

[xmas1997]

An owner's influence is not based on if their team has won any thing lately. Cowboys are still the most valuable team in the NFL (2nd most valuable sports franchise in the United States). If Jerry has an opinion, people in the NFL (Goodell etc...) will listen.

This is exactly what worries me.

[Trainwreck2100]

Nothing but a bad faith dog and pony show

[illusioNtEk]

i would buy a season pass..... lets do this!

[xmas1997]

Now there is even an article from Mexico saying that they would go if the Raiders moved here.

[silverblk mystix]

Nobody in San Antonio or Austin is going to go before the taxpayers with a proposal to spend $600-750M on a new stadium.

IT.

WON'T.

HAPPEN.

Cannot believe people fall for this crap EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS. LA needs a team, LA has a incredibly superior market, existing stadium, way more rich investors, etc etc. If they are moving it will be to LA.


San Antonio ^ this applies.



Austin though -

austin loves to give money away to businesses and they get shit passed -


however -


The reason Austin will not get an NFL team is not due to taxes - but because of the Longhorns owning Austin.

Austin puts the longhorns ahead of everything.

[xmas1997]

San Antonio ^ this applies.
Austin though -
austin loves to give money away to businesses and they get shit passed -
however -
The reason Austin will not get an NFL team is not due to taxes - but because of the Longhorns owning Austin.
Austin puts the longhorns ahead of everything.

As well they should.

[xmas1997]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-sports/article/City-documents-show-extensive-work-on-Raiders-deal-5684807.php

City documents show extensive work on Raiders deal
By Josh Baugh, Tom Orsborn : August 12, 2014 : Updated: August 12, 2014 8:20pm

Document: Executive briefing for NFL relocation

SAN ANTONIO — Leading up to Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis' visit here last month, city officials quietly and feverishly prepared for his arrival, updated an NFL relocation study and war-gamed a potential move by the NFL team to San Antonio.

Documents obtained by the San Antonio Express-News on Tuesday show a much more concerted effort to attract the Raiders than has previously been disclosed.

A Raiders move to the Alamo City still is considered a long shot by those with knowledge of the matter, but San Antonio appears to have presented itself as a superior landing spot should the Bay Area franchise decide to relocate, and strong relationships between Davis and local leaders could help spur the deal.

In the several weeks preceding the July 18 weekend — when Davis, Raiders Chief Operating Officer Marc Badain and Larry Delsen, a business manager and CPA visited with the city's highest ranking officials and business leaders — city staff conducted significant analysis of a potential deal and others worked to ensure that the weekend would be a “once in a lifetime” tour.

The documents obtained by the newspaper under the state's open-records law reveal just how much detail went into preparing for Davis' visit.

The city has asked the Texas attorney general whether San Antonio may withhold several pages of documents because releasing them now “could have a negative competitive impact on the city,” according to Di Galvan, the city's communications director.

Meanwhile, a source with knowledge of Davis' meetings in San Antonio discounted comments made by Spurs shareholder Charlie Amato, who said the five-time NBA champion team harbored concerns about a Raiders relocation and suggested that the Spurs purchase the Raiders. The source was not authorized to speak about the matter and asked to remain unnamed.

The Express-News has previously reported that Spurs owner Peter Holt had positive and fruitful conversations with Davis when he was here. The two met at Holt's Terrell Hills home on July 19.

“Peter assured Mark that (the Spurs) would not be a roadblock to the Raiders relocating to San Antonio and would find ways to work with them,” the source said.

Documents provided by the city also show that Davis and his executives met that night for dinner with former Mayor Henry Cisneros, and B.J. “Red” McCombs at his Olmos Park mansion.

The documents show that the city spent $15,000 to re-engage with Premier Partnerships, a California-based sports-sales and advisory firm, which in 2011 studied the feasibility of pro sports in San Antonio.

The 2011 report said that San Antonio wasn't ready for the NFL or Major League Baseball, in part because of the lack of Fortune 500 companies in town. But the updated analysis paints a different picture.

The consultant recommends “formalizing discussions with the ownership group of the Oakland Raiders,” and offers a series of recommended next steps, including:

continuing to explore financial structures with ownership;

meeting with NFL executives;

finalizing renovation expenses for the Alamodome.

Included in a chain of emails between Mike Sawaya, the city's director of Convention, Sports and Entertainment Facilities, and Premier Partnerships consultants, is a spreadsheet that has identified $27.4 million in necessary upgrades to the Alamodome in order for the facility to meet NFL standards.

The document estimates the “build out” of 14 suites to be $1.8 million, the construction of an additional 44 suites to be $6 million, and the addition of a new sound system to be $3.5 million.

Such upgrades would come on top of $43 million in potential improvements the city would likely do if it wins another NCAA Final Four bid.

The study also details potential funding sources in the event the city entered into an agreement with the Raiders to build a new stadium.

The city has provided a substantial amount of documents to the Raiders since Davis' July visit.

Cisneros was the architect of the plan to show Davis what San Antonio has to offer. Cisneros' son-in-law played for the Raiders and now works in the team's front office.

But the ties between San Antonio and Oakland run even deeper.

Robert Marbut Jr., who worked as Cisneros' chief of staff, has been working on details of the deal. When Davis' late father, Al Davis, moved the Raiders from Los Angeles back to Oakland in the 1980s, Marbut helped facilitate the move.

Reached by telephone Tuesday, Marbut, whose name appears in the documents obtained by the newspaper, declined to comment.

Those documents show that city officials went to great lengths to insure San Antonio had a positive impact on Davis. When he and his representatives checked in at the Grand Hyatt, they were treated to top-notch VIP service — including a corner suite for the Raiders owner and personalized notes from hotel management.

They were wined and dined in a private room (with a private “dining captain”) at Ruth's Chris Steak House on their first night in town. Records show dinner, not including alcohol, topped $2,000 for 17 guests. The party was served New York strip, rib-eye streak, Ahi tuna stacks and barbecued shrimp. The $765 bar tab included four bottles of Magnificat wine, three bottles from the Jordan Vineyard & Winery and one Miller Lite.

Their weekend was packed. It included breakfast on a River Walk barge and a Sunday helicopter tour of potential stadium sites before Davis and his associates departed from McCombs' private hangar at the San Antonio International Airport.

Later, Sawaya followed up in an email to Badain.

“Marc — It was a real pleasure meeting you this weekend. I sincerely hope you had a positive impression of the prospects presented in San Antonio,” Sawaya wrote. “I did speak to City Manager, Sheryl Sculley, after your send-off meeting yesterday. We are meeting today to determine next steps, and will provide you with whatever follow-up documentation that is necessary to keep our dialogue moving. I am making plans to attend your training camp next week in Napa, and will be in touch very soon.”

A few days later, Sawaya rented a car at the San Francisco International Airport and drove to Oakland.

On Tuesday, he downplayed his visit, saying he was headed to a convention in Portland, Ore., and had a lengthy layover in the Bay Area.

“I had this tripped planned,” Sawaya said. “This was just a courtesy call to kind of keep the dialogue going, more than anything.”

[leemajors]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2160709-san-antonio-spurs-reportedly-would-oppose-raiders-move-to-san-antonio

[HI-FI]

gotta go with Jerrah and Spurs on this one, fuck the move. hopefully it's just leverage.

[xmas1997]

It appears to me some took some things out of context in this article in order to get a negative opinion and outcome.
When and if it happens, I'm pretty sure the Spurs and Davis would work out any objections, after all, Davis met with Holt, and Holt said he would be interested in investing in the Raiders if they moved here.
But there is also this great news of a study of the area within the same article below:



The concerns of Amato notwithstanding, one industry expert believes that an NFL team could succeed in San Antonio independent of the Spurs' control.

Bernie Mullin, chairman and CEO of The Aspire Group, an Atlanta-based global sports and entertainment firm with ties to the University of Texas, believes that NFL teams seeking to relocate should seriously consider moving to South or Central Texas.

“San Antonio is a very attractive market for the right sport — and football is one of those right sports,” said Mullin, a former NBA executive. “The San Antonio market and certainly the South-Central Texas market of San Antonio and Austin combined are ones that definitely warrant in-depth consideration for any major league team (other than the NBA) that's looking to move to another market.”

The Aspire Group, which does ticket marketing, sales and service support for UT, recently concluded what Mullin termed a “very comprehensive study” for a major league franchise seeking to relocate that is not a member of the NFL. Among the global markets targeted were San Antonio, Austin and a combination of the two cities, Mullin said.

“The work we did indicated San Antonio and certainly somewhere between the San Antonio and Austin markets would appear to be extremely viable for the NFL,” he said.

While he acknowledged that San Antonio lacks a robust corporate base for pro sports sponsorships, Mullin believes that an NFL team with only roughly 10 home games per season in such a tourism hotbed as San Antonio would draw fans and sponsors from an “extremely large radius.” He also stressed that the NFL's lucrative television contracts would help offset the city's meager corporate base.

“The centralized revenue streams, especially from those contracts, are so large, so substantial, they make the (paltry) sponsorship revenue in a small corporate market less impactful,” Mullin said.

The Aspire Group's study also pointed out that although NFL owners seek markets with average annual income much higher than San Antonio's, that concern could be offset by marketing Austin.

“The average disposable income in the (San Antonio) market is a concern, but it's higher in Austin,” Mullin said.

http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-would-want-control-should-NFL-team-relocate-5681374.php?cmpid=twitter-premium&t=bfd85168dcc6ed8151#/0

[xmas1997]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2160709-san-antonio-spurs-reportedly-would-oppose-raiders-move-to-san-antonio

Both of the articles I just posted, the one above, and the one below, your post pretty much debunks the bleacherreort article you posted, thankfully.

It is beginning to look really positive that we may soon, as early as next year, be cheering for the San Antonio Raiders because this effort really seems to have legs under it.

It'll really piss Jerry Jones off if it does, he'll fight it all the way.

I for one am sick of the Dallas and Houston teams monopolizing San Antonio and using us as their personal cash cow, so even though I won't get my hopes up, I will still be happy if it indeed happens.

[spurraider21]

Xmas is viewing this thread :lmao

[spurraider21]

I guess victor is equally interested

[anakha]

I guess victor is equally interested

Or his lawyer.



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[ChumpDumper]

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[DJR210]

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[DJR210]

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[silverblk mystix]

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[silverblk mystix]

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[ChumpDumper]

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[DJR210]

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