View Full Version : 2015-2016 San Antonio Raiders Thread
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 05:07 PM
:wakeup
Holden_Caulfield
07-29-2014, 05:17 PM
just when i thought theres already too many raiders fans that are messicans :lol
Ditty
07-29-2014, 05:31 PM
:downspin:I would be on board son!
benefactor
07-29-2014, 05:44 PM
Shit...the greys are going to ruin the NFL forum.
Avante
07-29-2014, 05:46 PM
The Raiders came oh so close to being called...The Oakland Senors.....I'm dead serious.
Hmmmmm....The San Antonio Senors.
benefactor
07-29-2014, 05:49 PM
Jerry Jones will try his best to block this somehow. He needs those Mexicans in SA.
Hoover
07-29-2014, 05:51 PM
San Antonio can't even support a gotdamned Arena team, no way in hell anyone is gonna move an NFL team here.
xmas1997
07-29-2014, 05:54 PM
Oakland Raiders owner in talks with S.A. to relocate NFL team
http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro-sports/article/Oakland-Raiders-owner-in-talks-with-SA-to-5654812.php
SAN ANTONIO — Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two top lieutenants met recently with several San Antonio officials to discuss the potential of moving his NFL team from the Bay Area to the Alamo City, sources familiar with the matter have confirmed.
On July 18, Davis met with the officials, including Henry Cisneros, then-Mayor Julián Castro, City Manager Sheryl Sculley, Mario Hernandez of the San Antonio Economic Development Foundation, and both Richard Perez and David McGee, the president and chairman of the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce, respectively.
San Antonio has often been used as a bargaining chip for pro sports franchises trying to negotiate better deals in their own respective cities, but sources have characterized Davis' interest in San Antonio to be at least somewhat more serious. He is clearly perturbed with his current situation in Oakland, where the team's lease expires after the 2014-15 season.
Cisneros, who led the charge to build the Alamodome when he was mayor, has been described by sources as the architect of the meeting.
Davis and his associates reportedly spent two or three days here, visiting the Alamodome and other places. They also took an aerial tour of the city in a helicopter, arranged by developer Marty Wender.
With some upgrades, the Alamodome could be ready for a 2015-16 NFL season, though it would be a temporary home at best. The city has set aside funds to add suites to the 21-year-old dome, now home to the University of Texas at San Antonio Roadrunners football team and the San Antonio Talons arena football team.
If the Raiders moved here, though, Davis is expected to seek a new stadium within a few years, after the team had proved itself in the Alamo City.
Davis told San Antonio civic and business leaders he isn't seeking a “Jerry Jones-type facility” and prefers “a small, intimate” stadium that he can place “a statue of his father in front of,” a source said.
But even if San Antonio ponies up an enticing deal and Davis ultimately decides to relocate here, the two sides would still face an uphill battle. San Antonio only ranks in the mid-30s in the nation's top television markets and NFL owners — including the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans — would have to vote on the deal. And whether the NFL would allow the team to leave the sixth largest media market for the 37th remains unclear.
Any team desiring to relocate would need the blessing of 24 of the league's 32 owners. Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications, had little to say on a potential Raiders relocation.
“We don't have any information about (Davis' meeting in San Antonio), so there is no reason for us to comment,” he said Tuesday. “We have received no applications from any of our teams to relocate at this point, so there is nothing for us to respond to.”
Though San Antonio ranks 37th in the country's top television markets, the Raiders have a significant Hispanic fan base and Davis apparently believes his team would do well in South Texas.
It appears that his meeting here has been in the works for at least a couple months. A source familiar with the talks said he had heard a couple months ago that the Raiders were interested in San Antonio. But the details of Davis' visit indicate that he could be interested in San Antonio more than just as a bargaining chip in Oakland. While here, the Raiders owner had separate discussions with Spurs owner Peter Holt and Red McCombs, who both showed interest in having a stake in the team if it were to move here. A source indicated that the beleaguered Wheatley Heights sports complex on the East Side could serve as a potential training facility, and Davis also looked at open land during his visit.
Though Holt is apparently interested in NFL in San Antonio, others in the Spurs organization aren't. There are concerns, a source said, that the Raiders, whose colors are also black and silver, could pull away from the Spurs' fan base — and their pocketbooks.
Ditty
07-29-2014, 05:54 PM
San Antonio can't even support a gotdamned Arena team, no way in hell anyone is gonna move an NFL team here.
I love football, but arena football is a joke. I would be at every Raiders game even if they played in New Braunfels.
Hoover
07-29-2014, 06:00 PM
Raiders aren't going to play in a 65,000 seat stadium.
San Antonio's not going spend a billion smackers for a replacement.
NFL not excited about a team in a pathetically small market.
Ain't no billionaire gonna step up and build anything, either.
How many times does this town have to be used as a foil before you people will get it?
Avante
07-29-2014, 06:01 PM
Let's see...
Los Angeles Chargers to San Diego
Oakland Raiders to LA then back to Oakland now maybe San Antonio
Houston Oilers becoming Tennessee Titans (The NY Jets started off as the Titans)
Baltimore Colts becoming Indy Colts
Dallas Texans becoming the KC Chiefs
Chicago Cardinals becoming the St. Louis Cardinals only to become the Arizona Cardinals.
Los Angeles Rams becoming the St.Louiis Rams.
Boston Patriots becoming the New England Patriots
The Dallas Cowboys were almost called.....The Dallas Rangers.
Ditty
07-29-2014, 06:01 PM
Raiders aren't going to play in a 65,000 seat stadium.
San Antonio's not going spend a billion smackers for a replacement.
NFL not excited about a team in a pathetically small market.
Ain't no billionaire gonna step up and build anything, either.
How many times does this town have to be used as a foil before you people will get it?
Which Raiders official told you this?
Hoover
07-29-2014, 06:04 PM
Which Raiders official told you this?
The same one who told you they want to move here.
Ditty
07-29-2014, 06:10 PM
The same one who told you they want to move here.
Well what was Mark Davis doing here then...
The San Antonio market could easily include Austin, San Marcos and New Braunfels. I think plenty of people from those nearby cities would make the drive down for the NFL tbh. Shit San Antonio-New Braunfels shouldve been merged like DFW a long time ago, not sure what the hold up is there.
The Dome can expand to 72k BTW .
RGMCSE
07-29-2014, 06:20 PM
San Antonio can't even support a gotdamned Arena team, no way in hell anyone is gonna move an NFL team here.
its arena football dumbass. I'm not paying $60 for bullshit arena football. I would pay $1500-$2000 for season tickets for NFL though...
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 06:22 PM
The San Antonio market could easily include Austin, San Marcos and New Braunfels. I think plenty of people from those nearby cities would make the drive down for the NFL tbh.
The Dome can expand to 72k BTW .
From what I've read the Alamodome would be expected to just be a temp. For a permanent spot they'd either need them to redo the Dome or have an agreement to build a new facility
xmas1997
07-29-2014, 06:24 PM
San Antonio can't even support a gotdamned Arena team, no way in hell anyone is gonna move an NFL team here.
That is the poorest analogy used in sports today. There is a HUGE difference in an arena football team, and an NFL team. Or weren't you aware of this?
This is the same piss poor argument used to support the contention that San Antonio can't support a MLB team because they can't support a minor league team.
What you and many other short sighted individuals don't realize is that most San Antonians DO NOT WANT A MINOR league team, of any kind!
manufan10
07-29-2014, 06:27 PM
You'd also have people from Corpus down to the Valley who would be able to go watch games. I know they've discussed on occasion about the possibility of an NFL team in the RGV. San Antonio makes much more sense.
San Antonio can't even support a gotdamned Arena team, no way in hell anyone is gonna move an NFL team here.
Averaged 30-35k the first three yrs for a start-up college football program that up until recently had a bunch FCS & D-II teams on its home schedule.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_w0eelGhygY/maxresdefault.jpg
From what I've read the Alamodome would be expected to just be a temp. For a permanent spot they'd either need them to redo the Dome or have an agreement to build a new facility
Yeah, the Alamodome definitely isn't up to NFL standards. Find it difficult to believe San Antonio would be willing to build a new stadium though--it'd have to be renovations to the Dome imo.
What are you hearing in California though, do these talks sound legit? SA has been used as leverage way too many times for me to get my hopes up tbh.
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 06:37 PM
Yeah, the Alamodome definitely isn't up to NFL standards. Find it difficult to believe San Antonio would be willing to build a new stadium though--it'd have to be renovations to the Dome imo.
What are you hearing in California though, do these talks sound legit? SA has been used as leverage way too many times for me to get my hopes up tbh.
they've been going back and forth with the city of oakland for like 5-6 years now and there's been almost no progress. LA makes the most sense, there will always be investors tbh
If LA wants them too then we have no shot tbh.
The Gemini Method
07-29-2014, 06:53 PM
Man, L.A. Twenty years w/o a team. How close can you get? Almost had the beloved Seahawks...well, had them in the OC for a week. Hate being used as leverage. Times are tough whilst I watch every team on a given Sunday. :cry
xmas1997
07-29-2014, 07:02 PM
If LA wants them too then we have no shot tbh.
That is true, but L.A. does not want them, and won't even build a facility for an expansion team.
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 07:06 PM
If LA wants them too then we have no shot tbh.
LA has just been a cocktease since the raiders started having stadium issues
DJR210
07-29-2014, 07:12 PM
Raiders aren't going to play in a 65,000 seat stadium.
San Antonio's not going spend a billion smackers for a replacement.
NFL not excited about a team in a pathetically small market.
Ain't no billionaire gonna step up and build anything, either.
How many times does this town have to be used as a foil before you people will get it?
Sadly, a lot of truth here.
Clipper Nation
07-29-2014, 07:27 PM
they've been going back and forth with the city of oakland for like 5-6 years now and there's been almost no progress. LA makes the most sense, there will always be investors tbh
I could see the Chargers and Raiders sharing the proposed NFL-owned stadium in LA, tbh....
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 07:29 PM
that would actually be a viable plan... Qualcomm is also a piece of shit, and arguably a worse facility overall, but at least its not a shared baseball field :lol
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/504f36166bb3f77f39000006-480/oakland-raiders.jpg
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/504f36666bb3f71937000019-960/oakland-oco-coliseum.jpg
Clipper Nation
07-29-2014, 07:30 PM
that would actually be a viable plan... Qualcomm is also a piece of shit, and arguably a worse facility overall, but at least its not a shared baseball field :lol
Qualcomm was a shared baseball field until recently, and I believe it has the same sewage problem as the Colisseum.... the stadium's literally crumbling too :lol
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 07:32 PM
Qualcomm was a shared baseball field until recently, and I believe it has the same sewage problem as the Colisseum.... the stadium's literally crumbling too :lol
Petco has been around for a decade though
:lol we can't even get our logo on the field or in the endzones
xmas1997
07-29-2014, 07:41 PM
The city has funds set aside to add luxury suites and more seating to the Alamodome and could be ready by the 2014-15 NFL season, but would only be a temporary home until a more modern facility was built.
rayray2k8
07-29-2014, 07:50 PM
Man, after watching "A football life" on the 1995 Cleveland Browns, I have mixed reaction about this. But then again, I doubt the Raiders relocate..
Not only would it gain such bad publicity, it would just wrong to move such a rich and long storied franchise..
manufan10
07-29-2014, 07:53 PM
San Antonio should try and get Jacksonville if anything.
xmas1997
07-29-2014, 07:56 PM
The Dallas Chaparrals moved here and became the San Antonio Spurs.
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 08:00 PM
San Antonio should try and get Jacksonville if anything.
that's true... the jaguars are a borderline lost franchise at this point, SA would be a good spot for them. the raiders need to stay in california tbh
Holden_Caulfield
07-29-2014, 08:10 PM
:lol @ idiots who thinks the jags are moving anytime soon
Holden_Caulfield
07-29-2014, 08:12 PM
they just spent a gazillion $ on their board, made renovations at their stadium and renewed their lease with their stadium sponsors, theyre locked in at jacksonville for at least 20 years
spurraider21
07-29-2014, 08:26 PM
they just spent a gazillion $ on their board, made renovations at their stadium and renewed their lease with their stadium sponsors, theyre locked in at jacksonville for at least 20 years
did they renovate the tarps too :lol
http://gridirongrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Jacksonville-Jaguars-Stadium-Everbank-Field-Tarps.jpg
http://turnonthejets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jags.jpg
Holden_Caulfield
07-29-2014, 08:46 PM
did they renovate the tarps too :lol
http://gridirongrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Jacksonville-Jaguars-Stadium-Everbank-Field-Tarps.jpg
http://turnonthejets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jags.jpg
maybe thats where theyre putting the pool and cabanas :lol
You'd also have people from Corpus down to the Valley who would be able to go watch games. I know they've discussed on occasion about the possibility of an NFL team in the RGV. San Antonio makes much more sense.
Yup. I've heard those rumors about the nfl coming to the valley but I find them unsubstantiated. Political leaders of every suitable city would fight for rights to an nfl team. Too many politics involved to begin with. Shit, come to think of it, where the fuck would they put the stadium? McAllen? Weslaco? rofl
manufan10
07-29-2014, 09:12 PM
Yup. I've heard those rumors about the nfl coming to the valley but I find them unsubstantiated. Political leaders of every suitable city would fight for rights to an nfl team. Too many politics involved to begin with. Shit, come to think of it, where the fuck would they put the stadium? McAllen? Weslaco? rofl
McAllen, Weslaco, Mercedes, and Harlingen were all discussed.... but I never saw how it could possibly happen.
Pelicans78
07-29-2014, 09:13 PM
San Antonio could easily support a NFL team. No doubt about it. Build a stadium in the New Braunsfeld/San Marcos area.
Dallas and Houston have enough fans even without San Antonio/Austin in the mix. This could happen.
McAllen, Weslaco, Mercedes, and Harlingen were all discussed.... but I never saw how it could possibly happen.
A stadium off the high way like Boggus would be good. But we also have to factor in the size of the stadium plus parking. McAllen as it is would not be suitable imo. Too much infrastructure, buildings around the good and shitty parts of the city. Harlingen, eh idk. Could perhaps. Mercedes would be ideal for space. Kinda like the location of State Farm Arena.
Avante
07-30-2014, 02:20 AM
Why not Visalia California in the central valley? Fresno is an hour away as is Bakersfield. Then there's a ton of 30,000-50. 000 towns around here.
spurraider21
07-30-2014, 02:58 AM
i feel like you just answered your own question
ChumpDumper
07-30-2014, 07:56 AM
did they renovate the tarps too :lol
http://gridirongrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Jacksonville-Jaguars-Stadium-Everbank-Field-Tarps.jpg
http://turnonthejets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jags.jpglolutsa needs some of those.
RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 09:00 PM
did they renovate the tarps too :lol
http://gridirongrit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Jacksonville-Jaguars-Stadium-Everbank-Field-Tarps.jpg
http://turnonthejets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jags.jpg
bruh you have nary room bruh. your shit franchise cant fill a caverness stadium either. By the way this thread is about the San Antonio Raiduhs:lol
RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 09:17 PM
At least Jville is trying. What's special about that shithole alemeda? Check out some of the latest renos at the Bank...
http://prod.static.jaguars.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/2014TixProducts/2014_kickoff-club-tables1.jpg
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/db837d4d2b0a107f7c71c73700d4254b7641de3f/c=240-0-4016-2832&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Tallahassee/2014/07/27/jaguarsstadiummegagrue.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtgYk1XCcAA2aQK.jpg:large
http://northfloridanow.com/clients/northfloridanow/7-25-2014-6-12-36-AM-8495494.JPG
http://cover32.com/jaguars/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/03/287774__1_.0_standard_709.0.jpg
http://www.foxsports.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Florida/2014/7/26/072614-fsf-nfl-jacksonville-jaguars-screen-PI.jpg
spurraider21
07-30-2014, 09:19 PM
humor. learn it.
the oakland coliseum is a shithole, and that explains why you are currently posting in a thread called "San Antonio Raiders"
Those stadium upgrades are pretty sweet. Probably just temporary bandages though tbh.
RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 09:24 PM
humor. learn it.
the oakland coliseum is a shithole, and that explains why you are currently posting in a thread called "San Antonio Raiders"
I was just picking on your post. Im cool with you. I just wanted an excuse to post something good about the Jags. Even the hater have to appreciate the growth the franchise is trying to accomplish.
RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 09:31 PM
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RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 09:32 PM
Those stadium upgrades are pretty sweet. Probably just temporary bandages though tbh.
If they weren't really trying to improve the football side I would completely agree. But that roster has 37 new players. Believe me when I say, there is certainly some talent on the roster now. 6 wins is not out of the realm. The team is on an upswing, so with the new toys and a young improving team the fan base is going to be rejuvenated. I'll be honest I wish the Raiders stay in Oakland or at least LA. As a Jaguar fan and you of all people would know this; having your team move or being a fan of a team that is constantly being rumored and pushed and picked on by everyone to move is frustrating as fuck. I didn't just watch that team on tv. I was a season Ticket holder. I have real memories win or lose.
Check out this Jaguars Fantasy Football lounge. They built a huge facility in the stadium that is going to be completely bad ass.
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/201...rs-Lounge.html (http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2013/09/15/sports/football/Jaguars-Lounge.html)
Agree that if the team improves the fanbase could be revitalized. That improvement is far from a sure thing though, and if I had to bet--simply bc of the bad stigma surrounding Jacksonville--I'd probably put my money on them continuing to be bottom dwellers. Best of luck though.
As far as Oakland, that situation is pretty extreme. I'm not seeing how those two sides come to an agreement.
davi78239
07-30-2014, 10:19 PM
Still trying to figure out how the hell new Orleans has both an nba and nfl team in that city. They are no way bigger than San Antonio or probably about the same size. All this talk about how the nfl would not want the small tv market of sa even though there are comparable cities in the nfl right now and even smaller ones that have had a team forever.
RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 11:00 PM
Still trying to figure out how the hell new Orleans has both an nba and nfl team in that city. They are no way bigger than San Antonio or probably about the same size. All this talk about how the nfl would not want the small tv market of sa even though there are comparable cities in the nfl right now and even smaller ones that have had a team forever.
Prime Super Bowl location. Enough said.
Pelicans78
07-30-2014, 11:04 PM
Still trying to figure out how the hell new Orleans has both an nba and nfl team in that city. They are no way bigger than San Antonio or probably about the same size. All this talk about how the nfl would not want the small tv market of sa even though there are comparable cities in the nfl right now and even smaller ones that have had a team forever.
New Orleans was fortunate to have a NBA ready arena built in the late 90s when the Hornets were looking to move. It was a quick fix for the team to find a new home.
San Antonio would do fine with a NFL team. However, like New Orleans, the city would struggle with a MLB team.
RGMCSE
07-30-2014, 11:13 PM
[QUOTE=FkLA;7534996]Agree that if the team improves the fanbase could be revitalized. That improvement is far from a sure thing though, and if I had to bet--simply bc of the bad stigma surrounding Jacksonville--I'd probably put my money on them continuing to be bottom dwellers. Best of luck though.
As far as Oakland, that situation is pretty extreme. I'm not seeing how those two sides come to an agreement.[/QUOTE
Bad stigma has nothing to do with winning or losing. Fact is that the Jags won a total of six games in two years and still beat 6 other NFL teams in attendance. It's a fact. No one can change that. It shows that the fanbase is there to support. They're just waiting for something decent to support. When they get it the fanbase will over flow with renewed excitement. Jacksonville is a rabid football town. The media gives it a bad rap because it doesnt have the record strip club per capita like Tampa. Or it's not a huge TV market like New York or has tradition like Green Bay or Dallas. But think about the San Antonio Spurs and how fortunate we are to have the success and run that we've had. Even before the Championships the Spurs have always been playoff bound. Lets say you reversed the Spurs with the Clippers in San Antonio. I bet San Antonio would be shitted on just as bad as Jacksonville. I think that averaging over 50000 fans even while being bottom feeders and worst in almost every statistical category is proof that it's not a shitty fanbase. It's just that it was a pooly run football team. That's changing...
spurraider21
07-30-2014, 11:16 PM
Bad stigma has nothing to do with winning or losing. Fact is that the Jags won a total of six games in two years and still beat 6 other NFL teams in attendance. It's a fact. No one can change that. It shows that the fanbase is there to support. They're just waiting for something decent to support. When they get it the fanbase will over flow with renewed excitement. Jacksonville is a rabid football town. The media gives it a bad rap because it doesnt have the record strip club per capita like Tampa. Or it's not a huge TV market like New York or has tradition like Green Bay or Dallas. But think about the San Antonio Spurs and how fortunate we are to have the success and run that we've had. Even before the Championships the Spurs have always been playoff bound. Lets say you reversed the Spurs with the Clippers in San Antonio. I bet San Antonio would be shitted on just as bad as Jacksonville. I think that averaging over 50000 fans even while being bottom feeders and worst in almost every statistical category is proof that it's not a shitty fanbase. It's just that it was a pooly run football team. That's changing...
as a raider fan i'd disagree. when your franchise has a "stink" on it, you aren't getting good players willing to join your team. a guy in his prime or getting his first post-rookie contract isn't going to want to go to oakland or jacksonville and have their careers murdered. you have to overpay for players, or get past-prime talents in the meantime, which hampers the team. teams have to turn it around with incredibly strong draft classes that can get the team moving in a positive direction, and having a stable quarterback always helps
Holden_Caulfield
07-31-2014, 12:55 AM
At least Jville is trying. What's special about that shithole alemeda? Check out some of the latest renos at the Bank...
http://prod.static.jaguars.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/2014TixProducts/2014_kickoff-club-tables1.jpg
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/db837d4d2b0a107f7c71c73700d4254b7641de3f/c=240-0-4016-2832&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/Tallahassee/2014/07/27/jaguarsstadiummegagrue.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtgYk1XCcAA2aQK.jpg:large
http://northfloridanow.com/clients/northfloridanow/7-25-2014-6-12-36-AM-8495494.JPG
http://cover32.com/jaguars/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2014/03/287774__1_.0_standard_709.0.jpg
http://www.foxsports.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Florida/2014/7/26/072614-fsf-nfl-jacksonville-jaguars-screen-PI.jpg
shieeeeet thats beautiful :cry
in bortles we trust!
spurraider21
07-31-2014, 01:00 AM
shieeeeet thats beautiful :cry
in bortles we trust!
what are they saying about bortles in camp?
Holden_Caulfield
07-31-2014, 01:12 AM
what are they saying about bortles in camp?
im forever banned from the jungle :lol
but what im reading is that the coaches has been tinkering with his mechanics and hes adjusted really well. According to the twitter updates hes had a better camp than henne albeit strictly running with the second unit. our rookie WRs are also having a really good camp while cecil shorts has been out due to injury. I cant fucking wait for preseason! hopefully they start bortles by week 10, as with Carr, because both teams should be out of playoff contention :lol
spurraider21
07-31-2014, 02:18 AM
im forever banned from the jungle :lol
but what im reading is that the coaches has been tinkering with his mechanics and hes adjusted really well. According to the twitter updates hes had a better camp than henne albeit strictly running with the second unit. our rookie WRs are also having a really good camp while cecil shorts has been out due to injury. I cant fucking wait for preseason! hopefully they start bortles by week 10, as with Carr, because both teams should be out of playoff contention :lol
:cry we'll see you in the AFC championship
RGMCSE
07-31-2014, 05:50 PM
as a raider fan i'd disagree. when your franchise has a "stink" on it, you aren't getting good players willing to join your team. a guy in his prime or getting his first post-rookie contract isn't going to want to go to oakland or jacksonville and have their careers murdered. you have to overpay for players, or get past-prime talents in the meantime, which hampers the team. teams have to turn it around with incredibly strong draft classes that can get the team moving in a positive direction, and having a stable quarterback always helps
Excellent post and agree with all your points made. I was going to wright this long historical Jaguars post. But the bottom line is that the City of Jacksonville and Jaguar fans hit the lotto when Shahid Khan bought the team. He has hired some corporate monsters! Then he hired up and coming coaches and Gm. The team is on an upswing and we actually made some smart non expensive moves in FA. The Jags were active but very smart. I guess that is the difference between the Jaguars and Raiders right now. The Jaguars, City and corporate sponsors are putting their money where their mouth is. This alone was huge. The Raiders on the other hand have none of that going for it right now. It's sad. Good luck to your team dog.
xmas1997
08-02-2014, 01:05 PM
Let's see...
Los Angeles Chargers to San Diego
Oakland Raiders to LA then back to Oakland now maybe San Antonio
Houston Oilers becoming Tennessee Titans (The NY Jets started off as the Titans)
Baltimore Colts becoming Indy Colts
Dallas Texans becoming the KC Chiefs
Chicago Cardinals becoming the St. Louis Cardinals only to become the Arizona Cardinals.
Los Angeles Rams becoming the St.Louiis Rams.
Boston Patriots becoming the New England Patriots
The Dallas Cowboys were almost called.....The Dallas Rangers.
And the latest development is Stan Kroenke is buying up property (60 acres) in California to move his Rams back since St. Louis shot down dome improvements.
From what I've read the Alamodome would be expected to just be a temp. For a permanent spot they'd either need them to redo the Dome or have an agreement to build a new facility
So how will you feel if your Raiders do indeed relocate to San Antonio and become the San Antonio Raiders?
The Alamodome officials have already said they could have the new seats and luxury suites in place by next season for the three year temporary stay while the new stadium, that San Antonio has promised, is being built.
RGMCSE
08-02-2014, 04:34 PM
And the latest development is Stan Kroenke is buying up property (60 acres) in California to move his Rams back since St. Louis shot down dome improvements.
So how will you feel if your Raiders do indeed relocate to San Antonio and become the San Antonio Raiders?
The Alamodome officials have already said they could have the new seats and luxury suites in place by next season for the three year temporary stay while the new stadium, that San Antonio has promised, is being built.
I would buy the best season tickets I could afford in a heart beat! Count me in for four tickets.
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