Ugh Paul George

[cd98]

I know it's not Spurs but the worst on court injury I've seen since Ware in NCAA tournament. Just horrible. Glad Kawhi backed out.

[RD2191]

What happened?

[Ron Swanson]

Damn, that was brutal. His leg just snapped.

[spurraider21]

More incentive for Kawhi to sign an extension now...

[phxspurfan]

Oh fuck dude that was sooo nasty. His shin bone snapped in half on the backstop. He landed on the corner between the floor and the backstop and it was basically the broken off part of his leg that hit the floor.

[SupremeGuy]

What happened?Dude broke his leg. Like it fucking snapped in half. Anderson Silva style man... fucking brutal.

Tried to block a shot, landed, and his momentum took him left but it looked like his foot got stuck in front of the padding of the basket. It just snapped.

[cd98]

Scrimmage for Team USA. He went for a block on a fast break and his leg caught part of the basketball pole and broke leg above the ankle. Looked gruesome. Players on court looked horrified. Called off the rest of the game. He won't play for a year, if ever.

[FromWayDowntown]

That really sucks.

[phxspurfan]

PG24's career just ended. They'll probably splint it but damn dude. His left leg's going to be at least 2 inches shorter than his right.

[IknowU]

That's what you get for playing monkeyball style

[cd98]

Leg caught on basketball extension.

[Spurs da champs]

That's what you get for playing monkeyball style
Stupid.

[Ginobili3]

Damn, hope he gets well.

[FromWayDowntown]

I haven't even seen it and from every description I've read, I hope I never do.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

That may have been the worst on court injury I've ever seen.

[Mrcoon]

it was nasty

[RD2191]

Dude broke his leg. Like it fucking snapped in half. Anderson Silva style man... fucking brutal.

Tried to block a shot, landed, and his momentum took him left but it looked like his foot got stuck in front of the padding of the basket. It just snapped.
Just saw, gaw damn.

[RD2191]

:lol@ the morons on ESPN boards criticizing Kawhi for deciding to rest.

[elemento]

Man that was ugly :wow

[dabom]

No one post pics. It was fucking gross. Now manu for sure won't play.

[anakha]

That could have been Ginobili.

[Steve-O-Matic]

I admit that I'm the biggest weak-stomached wimp when it comes to this sort of stuff, so I'm really glad that I read this here before seeing it unprepared on SportsCenter later, esp. if it was anything like the kid from Louisville. Feel really bad for PG and Pacers fans.

[DDUBB1770]

Gross!!! Feel for pacers fans pacers and Paul George!! As bad as ware or Livingston... Terrible could be a career ender!!! Selfish to say but glad no kahwi and Manu this summer!

[Obstructed_View]

Well that changed the complexion of the basketball world in a hurry.

[Guajalote]

That's the worst I've seen since Joe Theisman and Napoleon McCallum. Brutal.

[doobs]

Glad we traded him

[RD2191]

Lebron just keeps winning out East.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I saw a college player break his leg similarly many years ago and he was back on the court 6 months later. Breaks like that can heal just fine as ugly as it looks when it happens. Hopefully that will be the case with George.

[elemento]

Damn, Anderson Silva esque

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAB2_OCQAM8oLo.jpg

[timtonymanu]

Lebron just keeps winning out East.

They weren't beating the Cavs with PG, but damn now they're a lottery team next season.

[Steve-O-Matic]

I saw a college player break his leg similarly many years ago and he was back on the court 6 months later. Breaks like that can heal just fine as ugly as it looks when it happens. Hopefully that will be the case with George.
You're right, they can. They can also be career enders. Wide range of long-term prognoses with those types of compound leg breaks.

[anakha]

They weren't beating the Cavs with PG, but damn now they're a lottery team next season.

You underestimate how bad the East is.

Remember how hard the Celtics committed to tanking last year and how shitty that roster was, now remember that they were only 13 games out of a playoff spot.

[RD2191]

They weren't beating the Cavs with PG, but damn now they're a lottery team next season.
Possibly, but the east is garbage.

[mVp]

https://vine.co/v/MEVQBYqivLw

Man that was bad, really really bad...

[RD2191]

May not be a career ender but players are never the same after that type of injury.

[timtonymanu]

You underestimate how bad the East is.

Remember how hard the Celtics committed to tanking last year and how shitty that roster was, now remember that they were only 13 games out of a playoff spot.

True, but damn the Pacers already lost Lance and now their best player. Pacers fans must be devastated right now.

[Brunodf]

Damn, 6-9 months recovery after the surgery

[xmas1997]

Damn, Anderson Silva esque

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAB2_OCQAM8oLo.jpg

Ouch!

[Steve-O-Matic]

Damn, 6-9 months recovery after the surgery
No chance of that if it's as bad as being described (I haven't seen it, and won't). With compound fractures, the severity depends on a variety of factors....such as the completeness of the break, where along the leg the break occurred, whether it was displaced or non-displaced, and most importantly, the collateral damage which may have occurred to the tissue, tendons, ligaments and muscles (much of which causes symptoms long after the surgery). The more check-boxes that get checked, the greater the recovery time and/or likelihood that it could be career-threatening. Post-op symptoms alone typically take at least 4 months to begin to subside, never mind the full rehab.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You're right, they can. They can also be career enders. Wide range of long-term prognoses with those types of compound leg breaks.

I'll be hoping he has a full recovery. Ugly.

:(

[Obstructed_View]

That looks like a fucking photoshop. Jesus. Would certainly never wish that on someone like PG.

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Such a devastating injury to a talented young star. It sucks. Prayers going out to Paul George.

[look_at_g_shred]

Fucking sick. I saw that shit live! Just no..

[dabom]

Am I the only that hates thibs coaching style?

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Fucking sick. I saw that shit live! Just no..
I was at a restaurant. Multiple people who saw it had to stop eating.

[playbonner15]

Damn... Hope he recovers soon

[Agloco]

Absolutely horrendous stuff.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi2R0IlCXlA

[spursfan1000]

ouch

[gee]

thank god manu is being held out

[GB20]

Am I the only that hates thibs coaching style?

yeah! he was pushing those guys hard

[Clipper Nation]

That's what you get for playing monkeyball style

Retarded take, it had nothing to do with style of play and everything to do with the fucking stanchions being too close to the court.... the "monkeyball" schtick has been run into the ground, tbh....

[baseline bum]

I haven't even seen it and from every description I've read, I hope I never do.

It looked way worse than Livingston.

[Clipper Nation]

Am I the only that hates thibs coaching style?

Nope.... Thibs is an overrated hack who runs his players into the ground, chokes to mediocre coaches like Collins and Wittman in the playoffs, is constantly fighting with his front office, but still gets hyped up as a genius and is given all the credit for the '08 Celtics....

[superbigtime]

Paul George was a man on the court after that horrific injury.

[team-work]

What a horrendous injury! Wish it never happens to anybody again. God bless PG, hope him recovers well. Nothing is more important than health.

[cjw]

Paul George was a man on the court after that horrific injury.

This, stone cold. Probably in shock to the point he couldn't react.

[Spurtacus]

Horrific injury. He's in for a long recovery and I hope it doesn't end his career.

[DJR210]

Hope he plays again, big blow to team USA, and the league.

[MANUNG-Ginobili]

now who's gonna pay for his surgery? the Pacers organization? or the US government? really sucks..

[BadOne]

Damn, prayin for that dude. Heart sank when I saw that. RIP Pacer's season.

[cd021]

That's what you get for playing monkeyball style

being athletic and black makes it monkey ball ? And as a result he deserves this injury? Great post :tu

[024]

Holy shit that looks bad. Such bad luck for George and the Pacers.

[wildcardX]

That could have been Ginobili.

Exactly! STAY HOME MANU. Bubble wrap yourself until next season.

[cd021]

Damn, 6-9 months recovery after the surgery

Thats whats being reported? Thats just bad news. Absolute earliest would be February. Probably best case is he can return just before the playoffs.

[Knoxxx]

SURREAL

[SpurPadre]

I feel bad for PG and Pacer fans. I blame Durant that fucking prick...just 'cuz.

[50 cent]

I would be so fucking pissed if I was an Indiana fan. Stanchions 2' 2" closer to the court than standard on a NBA Court? That is insanely close to the baseline.

Thank God Kawhi and Manu stayed home.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAMBMfCMAE4JoZ.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAM3Y1IYAEXcKz.jpg

[cd021]

Exactly! STAY HOME MANU. Bubble wrap yourself until next season.

Padded walls as well don't risk it.:lol But seriously good that he he has 3 months off.

[024]

Yeah that stanchion looked much closer in the picture than what it usually looked. Needless to say, if that was an NBA game court, the injury would not have happened.

[cjw]

They will get what amounts to a second MLE to replace PG for this year, though luxury tax may keep them from using it and they may just tank the season. Time to ship out West (I'd HATE to see him go to a west contender) and Hibbert (maybe to Knicks for Amare and a prospect) if Phil thinks he can rehabilitate him. Could dump Scola on them too.

[Mikeanaro]

I would be so fucking pissed if I was an Indiana fan. Stanchions 2' 2" closer to the court than standard on a NBA Court? That is insanely close to the baseline.

Thank God Kawhi and Manu stayed home.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAMBMfCMAE4JoZ.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAM3Y1IYAEXcKz.jpg
Thats why photographers and cameramen should be a little further, anyway this was horrible feel bad for him.

[peacemaker885]

Prayers to PG and his family. I doubt he will ever play again.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Ouch!

He should have taken a different angle on that block.

[SpursBills]

Looks like a tibia fracture; it's actually a lot better than a big knee injury; as long as his nerves and vessels still work, they can just put a nail (rod) down the tibia and he'll heal it pretty well in a few months. Bone heals better than ligaments, don't really see this as career-ending or anything. If he's got a neuro/vascular injury prognosis is a lot worse.

[Capt Bringdown]

Ghastly. That's just not fair.

[spurraider21]

Retarded take, it had nothing to do with style of play and everything to do with the fucking stanchions being too close to the court.... the "monkeyball" schtick has been run into the ground, tbh....
:lol chimp city fan tired of hearing about monkeyball

[Chinook]

I first thought this thread was about George's comments earlier today about wanting to be like Kobe and take 25 shots a game. Then, I looked at the OP and thought it was a lame troll attempt. Now, I'm just stunned.

[Budkin]

Worst injury I've seen ever. Holy shit.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

That is just absolutely brutal to see, hopefully his recovery and rehab goes as best as it can...

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Thats why photographers and cameramen should be a little further, anyway this was horrible feel bad for him.

Agreed, with the way today's players are absolutely flying to the basket this type of catastrophe was bound to happen sooner or later. Hopefully the league uses this incident to make some necessary fundamental changes in the interest of increased player safety...

[Malik Hairston]

Risking your career by "playing for your country" in meaningless Summer games..smh..

[Obstructed_View]

I hope this makes them redesign the basket stanchions and make those FUCKING ASSHOLE PHOTOGRAPHERS CLEAR OUT OF THAT SPACE!

[Obstructed_View]

That's what you get for playing monkeyball style
Fuck you and plonk.

[BillMc]

I haven't even seen it and from every description I've read, I hope I never do.

Yep. There are certain things that can't be forgotten once seen.

[Mikeanaro]

Agreed, with the way today's players are absolutely flying to the basket this type of catastrophe was bound to happen sooner or later. Hopefully the league uses this incident to make some necessary fundamental changes in the interest of increased player safety...
There was a coach that said they were too close and probably league was not going to do anything ´till something really bad happened, can´t remember exactly but I think it was Lionel Hollins.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Yep. There are certain things that can't be forgotten once seen.

Exactly. Joe Theismann was more than enough for me and the rest of my life. Never saw Marcus Lattimore. Never saw Kevin Ware. And won't ever see this one.

[slick'81]

Holy shit that is fucking unwatchable

[BillMc]

Exactly. Joe Theismann was more than enough for me and the rest of my life. Never saw Marcus Lattimore. Never saw Kevin Ware. And won't ever see this one.

I'm with you bro. Theisman was horrible. And they showed it again and again....

[loveforthegame]

I actually threw up after watching that. I have never seen anything like it.

Prayers because I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

[cd021]

They will get what amounts to a second MLE to replace PG for this year, though luxury tax may keep them from using it and they may just tank the season. Time to ship out West (I'd HATE to see him go to a west contender) and Hibbert (maybe to Knicks for Amare and a prospect) if Phil thinks he can rehabilitate him. Could dump Scola on them too.

I could see that. But it depends on just how bad it is. If its 6-9 months, then he could return in February at the earliest.

Maybe move Hibbert to New York for Shumpert, Stoudimire, Hardaway Jr. and a 2015 first rounder. Would give Indy cap space after next season and save them $13.5 million.

Also West to Houston in a deal involving the Pelicans 1st round pick (unprotected if it falls between 4th-19th) Terrence Jones, and Montiejunas (I think there would need a 3rd team though)

[benstanfield]

USA players gonna be pulling out of the team in droves. Honestly, when you make tens of millions of dollars doing something, why put it all at risk for free?

[Cherry]

Damn, 6-9 months recovery after the surgery

More than 12 months, imo. Horrible.

[SnakeBoy]

It's just a broken bone, assuming he didn't have any significant nerve damage he'll recover just fine.

I can't believe how wimpy some of you are though, over a broken bone. Have you never watched war documentaries or anything that shows real life and death?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Just validates the Spurs decision not to let Manu play and also for Kawhi to backout. With today's medical procedures, George will be back. If he comes back just as good, that's another story. Stephenson's injury was the worse I have ever seen and it took him 4 years to make come back. Hopefully it doesn't take George that long.

[spurraider21]

Wouldn't wish that kind of shit on anybody, except like 20-30 people

[PÒÓCH]

Just a flesh wound, 'tis but a scratch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

[.G.]

I would be so fucking pissed if I was an Indiana fan. Stanchions 2' 2" closer to the court than standard on a NBA Court? That is insanely close to the baseline.

Thank God Kawhi and Manu stayed home.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAMBMfCMAE4JoZ.jpg:large
Looks like that semi-circular white spot in front of the reflected '.com' is the marking left by his bone after landing. The vine loop seems to show that as well....or maybe not.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuAM3Y1IYAEXcKz.jpg

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

USA players gonna be pulling out of the team in droves. Honestly, when you make tens of millions of dollars doing something, why put it all at risk for free?

Olympic gold is worth it. But the World Cup, hell no.

[spursparker9]

Prayers to Paul George...

He got to rest for at least a year.

[Chinook]

Apparently, some US players were in tears. Irving was sobbing in his father's arms. It was just a leg-break. It sucks, but it's not the end of yhe world.

[TheyCallMePro]

Okay guys...I watched the Kevin Ware injury in slow-motion replay, so I should be okay watching this right?

Avoiding it is almost as painful. Feel like I won't be able to in the end. Will someone just tell me it's not as bad as the Kevin Ware injury? Please?

[Godbama]

I hope the monkeyball shit is just trolling. Like, you're legit the reason that the Spurs fanbase is as bad as the Heat fanbase or any fanbase (in the sense that every sports team fanbase has its equal share of lame fucks but it does feel like the Spurs fanbase feels itself a bit holier than thou undeservingly), the weirdass Euroball racist fuckwads who think athleticism in a fucking professional sport is crude/dumb or cheating or some bullshit.
NO FAIR AMERICAN BLACKS YOU CAN JUMP HIGHER AND RUN FASTER, IS NO COMPARISON TO GREAT SLAVIC BASKETBALL!!!!!! DUMB MONKEYBALL!!! :lol :rolleyes
they're in like, every basketball youtube comment section talking that bullshit and they're almost always Spurs fans latching onto the Spurs so they create this super lame concept where it's like the Spurs style of basketball is the "Beautiful Game" and the only right way for basketball to be appreciated. Like, I can watch Spurs passing and the Spurs system and intensely appreciate its beauty and I can also watch a Clippers alleyoop dunk and appreciate its beauty without snarkily rolling my eyes at how athletic this professional athlete is and inserting subtly racist bullshit about monkeyball. Obviously the fact I'm a Spurs fan means I appreciate watching Spurs basketball more than the latter, but as a fan of basketball I can see the beauty in both in their own ways. Seriously what a bunch of lameass Eurotrash typically.
Like, Pop and the franchise developed a system over time based on the reality of our assets and the makeup of our team. If we had had some hyperathletic young superstar prodigy then we may have modeled and adapted to that. Why's discussion of basketball playing style gotta get ideological ("this is the right way!!!!!") and borderline racial? wack

I love watching the Spurs play, I love watching them play more than any other team out there, but honestly if you look at some super athlete doing an awesome alleyoop dunk or some crazy athletic feat and react to that by sniffing condescendingly and rolling your eyes about how it's not purist basketball and it's monkeyball and blahblah you straight up need to wipe the cum off your lips.

[TheyCallMePro]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S AWFUL MY GOD FUCK. Damn... well I had to fucking watch goddammit.

[playbonner15]

Okay guys...I watched the Kevin Ware injury in slow-motion replay, so I should be okay watching this right?

Avoiding it is almost as painful. Feel like I won't be able to in the end. Will someone just tell me it's not as bad as the Kevin Ware injury? Please?
Not as bad. But just as painful to watch

[spursparker9]

Not as bad. But just as painful to watch

Agreed. All are painful to watch.

[TheyCallMePro]

Yeah it's not nearly as bad. Sickening, but somehow Kevin Ware's was so much worse. Had to hold back throw-up after seeing that one.

[Obstructed_View]

In other news, Derek Rose sets all-star break as target for return...

[howbouthemspurs]

That was just horrible!! I hope he gets better... But this may be a career ender though!

[phxspurfan]

Paul George was a man on the court after that horrific injury.

Yup. I've seen grown ass men cry like little bitches after spraining ankles. This was almost life threatening and he took it like a boss.

[Ron Swanson]

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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

That was just horrible!! I hope he gets better... But this may be a career ender though!

It's not career ending. Look at the recent Nfl players that have come back from complete breaks. But he is done for the season for sure. It was a compound fracture and you can see the bone puncture the skin on the replay. with today's science, they will be able to repair and fuse any nerve damage as well. He will just be playing with a pin in his leg from now on.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

495436105752526849

Intl play other than the Olympics. US is already qualified. This tournament was meaniless to them. Plus the base of tha basket was to f'in close to the baseline. What were the US Basketball officials thinking letting those player play with such a glaring hazard.

[spursparker9]

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[hooperflash]

Former Spur /blue
Heart goes out to the George family and Pacer Nation.
Wishing for a strong recovery.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Apparently its a lot better to break a bone than it is to tear an ACL, so at least the worst possible scenario didn't happen.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

I would think the real risk are the arteries and hoping he still gets perfusion to the distal extremity.

[sexinthatsx]

Apparently its a lot better to break a bone than it is to tear an ACL, so at least the worst possible scenario didn't happen.

True story. One looks more gruesome, but an ACL tear in the long run causes players more problems than a broken shin bone ever will. Assuming there's no neuro--vascular problems, he should be fine. Plus, when you break a bone it actually grows back stronger.

Regardless, my prayers are out there for him and his family

[cutewizard]

if its the US govt, well, good for them

the US government, being the servant of the evil dark polarity Sirius empire, should really start to behave as adults, and serve humanity.....

[phxspurfan]

if its the US govt, well, good for them

the US government, being the servant of the evil dark polarity Sirius empire, should really start to behave as adults, and serve humanity.....

wtf?

[cutewizard]

i wish we could break the bones of the reptilian illuminati, that would be fun

we start with obama, the clerk of the illuminati elite

then with the reptilian british royal family, reptilian cannibals all

then with the satanic vatican, and then break the bones of the evil jesuits


.......i wish it were them with broken bones, and not a fantastic NBA player

goodness

[Leetonidas]

i wish we could break the bones of the reptilian illuminati, that would be fun

we start with obama, the clerk of the illuminati elite

then with the reptilian british royal family, reptilian cannibals all

then with the satanic vatican, and then break the bones of the evil jesuits


.......i wish it were them with broken bones, and not a fantastic NBA player

goodness

http://media.giphy.com/media/TjZjp1gx0lfFu/giphy.gif

[Obstructed_View]

Good news for the Pacers is that the eastern conference is so terrible that the Pacers are still a playoff team without George. If all goes well with his recovery, he could be back at full strength right as the playoffs roll around.

[DPG21920]

495445089045344257

What a weird tweet. I bet harden still went out though

[Richie]

The Pacers are still committed to George long term, they need to be very careful with his recovery. No reason to try to bring him back next season, aim for a return for 15-16.

Is it worth them blowing it up? They basically have two assets, Hibbert and Hill, but both could be considered overpaid. West could have some value but he's 33. Are any of them worth a first rounder?

[cd021]

Good news for the Pacers is that the eastern conference is so terrible that the Pacers are still a playoff team without George. If all goes well with his recovery, he could be back at full strength right as the playoffs roll around.

8th seed i figure.

[jiggy_55]

Good news for the Pacers is that the eastern conference is so terrible that the Pacers are still a playoff team without George. If all goes well with his recovery, he could be back at full strength right as the playoffs roll around.

You think? I'm not so sure.. Pacers offense sucked ass last season and that was with PG and Lance. They just lost Lance and PG is done for the season, so they might be the worst offensive team the NBA has seen in a while.

[Richie]

Apparently its a lot better to break a bone than it is to tear an ACL, so at least the worst possible scenario didn't happen.

Normally yes, but with a break as severe as this you would expect problems with tendons and ligaments too. If the only damage is the broken bone then he will have been a lucky boy.

[Richie]

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I think these sorts of comments are overreactions. An injury like this is a freak accident, the same thing could happen during a pickup game, they could get hit by a car etc... Parker could have lost an eye in a nightclub brawl two years ago, these things just happen.

[cd021]

The Pacers are still committed to George long term, they need to be very careful with his recovery. No reason to try to bring him back next season, aim for a return for 15-16.

Is it worth them blowing it up? They basically have two assets, Hibbert and Hill, but both could be considered overpaid. West could have some value but he's 33. Are any of them worth a first rounder?

I think the probably should blow it up if possible. Someone mentioned Hibbert to the Knicks for S.T.A.T. Thats would save them $13.5 million after next season. They could probably get Shumpert and a 1st round pick back (likely to be in the 15-20 range) maybe Hardaway Jr as well.

I think Houston would be a player for West. They have Jones and N.O.P's pick (if it happens to be in the range of 4-19) they also have the 5 2nd rounders next season.

Hill would probably cost them a first rounder to get rid of. They could move him to Charlotte for Gerald Henderson and a 1st round pick. Henderson has 2 years $12 million ($6 million next year and a player option for $6 million the year after)

Move would save Indy $10 million and cut $8 million off the books for the '16-17 season.

I think if they move Hibbert and West they could definitely nab 2 first rounders next season on top of their own

[cd021]

You think? I'm not so sure.. Pacers offense sucked ass last season and that was with PG and Lance. They just lost Lance and PG is done for the season, so they might be the worst offensive team the NBA has seen in a while.

True but then again their stiffest competition would be the Nets and Knicks for the 8th seed. I think they are probably still better than both of them.

[Sean Cagney]

That may have been the worst on court injury I've ever seen.

Besides Shaun Livingston YES....... I saw it and nearly cringed for an hour.

[Sean Cagney]

I think these sorts of comments are overreactions. An injury like this is a freak accident, the same thing could happen during a pickup game, they could get hit by a car etc... Parker could have lost an eye in a nightclub brawl two years ago, these things just happen.
You are 100% dead on there, you could do this or that and die today or tomorrow for Gods sakes, it happens and yes it is a freak accident. For all we know Jordan could have done this in the 92 Dream Team campaign! It is a part of the game or life at times, just a freak accident.

[bluebellmaniac]

Glad we traded him


:lol

[will_spurs]

I think these sorts of comments are overreactions. An injury like this is a freak accident, the same thing could happen during a pickup game, they could get hit by a car etc... Parker could have lost an eye in a nightclub brawl two years ago, these things just happen.

Owners and GMs have tried to shut down international basketball forever. This gives them leverage, and they were quick to make the best of it.

[bluebellmaniac]

Glad we traded him


Makes us feel all the more blessed in getting Kawhi for him when we did.

[G-Dawgg]

Yo, where's Danny Granger? :lol

[Russo21]

Paul George should sit the season out and recover 100% and do not rush anything. That's such a nasty break. One way the Pacers could take advantage of this freak injury is by totally tanking this season, get a high lottery pick to play alongside George the next season. Kinda what the Spurs did with David Robinson to get Tim Duncan. Turned a good team into a bonafide championship contender instantly. It could work out for them in the long run. Better then competing, getting the 7th seed and easily getting beat in round 1 of the playoffs and missing out on a good draft pick. Time to tank the season for Indiana I think. Get well Paul.

[TampaDude]

Exactly. Joe Theismann was more than enough for me and the rest of my life. Never saw Marcus Lattimore. Never saw Kevin Ware. And won't ever see this one.

Seen all of them, and I've seen far worse, like victims of motorcycle accidents. It's a broken leg, folks...it's not like he was decapitated.

Still, it sucks for him...hope he makes a full recovery.

[SupremeGuy]

Glad we traded himYou motherfucking asshole :lol fuck

[G-Dawgg]

Now Indiana could make up for the loss of Lance but getting a good lottery pick if they tank..

[smaka]

I hope I never see that gif/video. Just from what I read it must have been horrible. Man, huge blow for the Pacers and PG, but hopefully he'll be able to return in a good shape.

[will_spurs]

Seen all of them, and I've seen far worse, like victims of motorcycle accidents.

Not everybody is cut to be a medic, paramedic, firefighter and so on. There's always more gruesome stuff to watch, but this gives me no joy or sense of accomplishment so I'll still avoid watching it if I can.

[mudyez]

I hope I never see that gif/video. Just from what I read it must have been horrible. Man, huge blow for the Pacers and PG, but hopefully he'll be able to return in a good shape.

:tu ...saw it and I'm not sure, that I'm able to step foot on a court again.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Don't mean to try and make this injury seem positive in any way, or maybe I'm an asshole, but Kawhi's got a good chance to make the all-defensive 1st team now.

[hsxvvd]

Worst injury I've seen ever. Holy shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyRy04Hn_-k

This guy spent the next 13 years of his life in a wheelchair before be died.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boban_Jankovi%C4%87

Those bloody stanchions.

[SupremeGuy]

i wish we could break the bones of the reptilian illuminati, that would be fun

we start with obama, the clerk of the illuminati elite

then with the reptilian british royal family, reptilian cannibals all

then with the satanic vatican, and then break the bones of the evil jesuits


.......i wish it were them with broken bones, and not a fantastic NBA player

goodnessPut down the meth pipe?

[littlecoyotecoin]

He should have taken a different angle on that block.

Coach told him to get back on the fast break.

[cd021]

Now Indiana could make up for the loss of Lance but getting a good lottery pick if they tank..

they'd probably have to move Hibbert or West to be bad enough. They should still make the playoffs imo.

[mingus]

That was gruesome. Hopefully it's just the bone that's damaged and it's not anything career threatening. Guy I played ball with in HS had basically the same thing happen to him and six months later you'd have never known he broke it so there's some hope.

[Uriel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyRy04Hn_-k

This guy spent the next 13 years of his life in a wheelchair before be died.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boban_Jankovi%C4%87

Those bloody stanchions.
Wow. That is about the epitome of stupidity as far as self-inflicted injuries are concerned.

[thiste]

French soccer player Djibril Cissé broke both of his legs like that, and he's still playing today.

http://cdn.tsmplug.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/cisse-broken-leg.jpg

[baseline bum]

Seen all of them, and I've seen far worse, like victims of motorcycle accidents. It's a broken leg, folks...it's not like he was decapitated.

Still, it sucks for him...hope he makes a full recovery.

Ugh, motorcycle accidents are nasty. I was driving the Angeles Crest Highway in the mountains north of LA and saw a guy get hit by a semi when taking a curve way too fast. His bike smashed into tons of pieces and his body was in at least three.

[dorrrr]

That headbutt injury is one of the worst and most terrifying injuries ever.
Makes you think how fragile we are. A guy basically lost his life on court in half a second of hastiness. Makes me sick to my stomach to watch that again.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Wow. That is about the epitome of stupidity as far as self-inflicted injuries are concerned.

Meh. Pretty stupid, but I've seen dumb shit like that from young people quite often. Old people for that matter, too. Been guilty of some stupid shit, myself. Maybe this was a little more nonsensical than some things, but probably no more than the 18 year old girl texting her pal meaningless shit and killing herself and a family of four. Takes a little luck to get old, because we're all pretty dumb.

The most interesting thing I took from this video is that during a life-threatening situation in the Greek league, someone will run out and try to save my ass with a bunch of shit they gathered from under the kitchen sink.

[Mugen]

Sucks for PG and the league. But some of you niggas need to get a grip tbh.

[DJR210]

Sucks for PG and the league. But some of you niggas need to get a grip tbh.

:lol quite a few squeamish beta softies in here tbh

[littlecoyotecoin]

Coach told him to get back on the fast break.

Paul George takes defense to a new degree.

[Richie]

French soccer player Djibril Cissé broke both of his legs like that, and he's still playing today.

http://cdn.tsmplug.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/cisse-broken-leg.jpg

Cisse is always the first player I think of when I see leg breaks like this. He came back after 6 months from the Liverpool one (on the right).

I don't know how someone keeps playing after breaking a leg like that twice, how can it ever escape your mind? I'd never go in for a challenge again, I tore ligaments in my ankle a few years ago when I landed on someones foot and it still flashes in to my head every now and then when I play.

[travis2]

https://vine.co/v/MEVQBYqivLw

Man that was bad, really really bad...

Oh man...:wow

I saw Theismann's injury live...this one is right up there with it.

Folks, if you can't handle Theismann, don't watch it...

[Clipper Nation]

:lol chimp city fan tired of hearing about monkeyball
:lol The only monkeyballer on the team is DeContract and some dumbass team will be overpaying him next summer.... keep Philo-ing it up, though :downspin:

[Clipper Nation]

I think these sorts of comments are overreactions. An injury like this is a freak accident, the same thing could happen during a pickup game, they could get hit by a car etc... Parker could have lost an eye in a nightclub brawl two years ago, these things just happen.
Yes, but the owners are just trying to minimize that risk as much as possible since they're the ones signing the checks...

[bigfan]

Bottom line: I feel bad for the guy, a horrible break. Hopefully he is able to fully recover.

[Richie]

Yes, but the owners are just trying to minimize that risk as much as possible since they're the ones signing the checks...

Oh absolutely, I think the GMs and Owners will use this to their advantage and I understand why, but I think the perception of risk is much higher than the reality.

I know in the Premiership it is written in to some players contracts that they are banned from riding motorcycles because of the increased risk.

[florige]

I haven't even seen it and from every description I've read, I hope I never do.


I saw it and it was pretty freaking gross. Him and Ware ugghhhh :vomit:

[florige]

It looked way worse than Livingston.



I don'y know man that Kevin Ware injury was freaking horrible too.

[EVAY]

Oh absolutely, I think the GMs and Owners will use this to their advantage and I understand why, but I think the perception of risk is much higher than the reality.

I know in the Premiership it is written in to some players contracts that they are banned from riding motorcycles because of the increased risk.

Wouldn't the same logic that the GMs and Owners are using in this instance also extend to no play in the NCAA tournaments? Isn't that where Kevin Ware's injury occurred? In fact, if you take that logic to its ultimate illogical conclusion, wouldn't it apply to preseason games as well?

I don't doubt that the argument will be made, but my point is that corrective actions should be in the area of where stanchions and press people are situated for George's injury.

Bottom line is playing can result in freak accidents. Gross, horrible thing for the athletes. I hate it for them. But injuries happen playing sports. End of story.

[Richie]

Wouldn't the same logic that the GMs and Owners are using in this instance also extend to no play in the NCAA tournaments? Isn't that where Kevin Ware's injury occurred? In fact, if you take that logic to its ultimate illogical conclusion, wouldn't it apply to preseason games as well?

I don't doubt that the argument will be made, but my point is that corrective actions should be in the area of where stanchions and press people are situated for George's injury.

Bottom line is playing can result in freak accidents. Gross, horrible thing for the athletes. I hate it for them. But injuries happen playing sports. End of story.

As it pertains to the NCAA I doubt the NBA teams care, because they aren't committed to anybody yet. I agree the logic extends to preseason games, and considering the playoffs are really all that matter I don't see why it doesn't extend to the regular season too.

In fact, the NBA would be hypocrites to ban stars on the basis of injury risk, as they complain about teams doing the exact same thing in the regular season. We got fined for it, although that was perhaps more to do with rest than injury risk, but it's fair to say the risk of injury is increased when players are fatigued.

[Embedded]

Mam, that is really painful to watch.

[Harry Callahan]

That is a shame for Paul George and the Pacers. The Cavs now basically have a bye to the Eastern Conference Finals. The NBA is very unbalanced by Conference right now.

As an old ABA team, the Pacers have a lot of things in common with the Spurs as a small market team (outside of the LOBTs).

I will avoid looking at any video too.

[wildchild]

495436105752526849


It sounds like college players will make USA Basketball Team next years.

Mark Cuban is a crazy guy but not stupid at all.

November 27, 2009..."We could still send our under 21 players to the Olympics. They will represent our country admirably, Im sure. More importantly, it would be a great business move for the NBA. Those players we send will get far more branding and marketing assigned to them then their current one and done collegiate careers (and the prospects of playing in the Olympics may incent them to stay in college as well)".

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Cisse is always the first player I think of when I see leg breaks like this. He came back after 6 months from the Liverpool one (on the right).

I don't know how someone keeps playing after breaking a leg like that twice, how can it ever escape your mind? I'd never go in for a challenge again, I tore ligaments in my ankle a few years ago when I landed on someones foot and it still flashes in to my head every now and then when I play.


Because modern medicine, doctors can now fuse nerves to make one good as new. They take a nerve from one part of your body, like your buttocks, and fuse in place of damage nerve. Plus the pins in the leg make the leg much stronger than it was before. The most risky areas to fix nerve damage or broken bones is the back. In a leg or arm, and nerve can be sever and doctors can reroute the synapses. If the spinal cord is sever well, you are going to be paralysis as there is only one main nerve that runs through your spine, and the spinal cord, consisting of white tissue, has a different makeup to the other nervous systems throughout the body.

[smaka]

:tu ...saw it and I'm not sure, that I'm able to step foot on a court again.
I just hope ESPN and other sports televisions are smart enough not to replay this video during Pacers or any other NBA game.

[SpurSwag]

I hope the monkeyball shit is just trolling. Like, you're legit the reason that the Spurs fanbase is as bad as the Heat fanbase or any fanbase (in the sense that every sports team fanbase has its equal share of lame fucks but it does feel like the Spurs fanbase feels itself a bit holier than thou undeservingly), the weirdass Euroball racist fuckwads who think athleticism in a fucking professional sport is crude/dumb or cheating or some bullshit.
NO FAIR AMERICAN BLACKS YOU CAN JUMP HIGHER AND RUN FASTER, IS NO COMPARISON TO GREAT SLAVIC BASKETBALL!!!!!! DUMB MONKEYBALL!!! :lol :rolleyes
they're in like, every basketball youtube comment section talking that bullshit and they're almost always Spurs fans latching onto the Spurs so they create this super lame concept where it's like the Spurs style of basketball is the "Beautiful Game" and the only right way for basketball to be appreciated. Like, I can watch Spurs passing and the Spurs system and intensely appreciate its beauty and I can also watch a Clippers alleyoop dunk and appreciate its beauty without snarkily rolling my eyes at how athletic this professional athlete is and inserting subtly racist bullshit about monkeyball. Obviously the fact I'm a Spurs fan means I appreciate watching Spurs basketball more than the latter, but as a fan of basketball I can see the beauty in both in their own ways. Seriously what a bunch of lameass Eurotrash typically.
Like, Pop and the franchise developed a system over time based on the reality of our assets and the makeup of our team. If we had had some hyperathletic young superstar prodigy then we may have modeled and adapted to that. Why's discussion of basketball playing style gotta get ideological ("this is the right way!!!!!") and borderline racial? wack

I love watching the Spurs play, I love watching them play more than any other team out there, but honestly if you look at some super athlete doing an awesome alleyoop dunk or some crazy athletic feat and react to that by sniffing condescendingly and rolling your eyes about how it's not purist basketball and it's monkeyball and blahblah you straight up need to wipe the cum off your lips.

Couldn't agree with anything more than this, it blows me away how so many people on here are obviously just spurs fans and not fans of the entire league. They want players like George and DRose to get hurt because they are "monkey ballers" what the fuck are you talking about they are NBA players who don't deserve to get hurt just for using their incredible athleticism.

[dbreiden83080]

Horrible news.. Hopefully in a year he can make it back..

[-21-]

Damn... Hope he has a full recovery. This makes me feel better about Kawhi and Manu not participating in the WC.

[cd021]

I hope the monkeyball shit is just trolling. Like, you're legit the reason that the Spurs fanbase is as bad as the Heat fanbase or any fanbase (in the sense that every sports team fanbase has its equal share of lame fucks but it does feel like the Spurs fanbase feels itself a bit holier than thou undeservingly), the weirdass Euroball racist fuckwads who think athleticism in a fucking professional sport is crude/dumb or cheating or some bullshit.
NO FAIR AMERICAN BLACKS YOU CAN JUMP HIGHER AND RUN FASTER, IS NO COMPARISON TO GREAT SLAVIC BASKETBALL!!!!!! DUMB MONKEYBALL!!! :lol :rolleyes
they're in like, every basketball youtube comment section talking that bullshit and they're almost always Spurs fans latching onto the Spurs so they create this super lame concept where it's like the Spurs style of basketball is the "Beautiful Game" and the only right way for basketball to be appreciated. Like, I can watch Spurs passing and the Spurs system and intensely appreciate its beauty and I can also watch a Clippers alleyoop dunk and appreciate its beauty without snarkily rolling my eyes at how athletic this professional athlete is and inserting subtly racist bullshit about monkeyball. Obviously the fact I'm a Spurs fan means I appreciate watching Spurs basketball more than the latter, but as a fan of basketball I can see the beauty in both in their own ways. Seriously what a bunch of lameass Eurotrash typically.
Like, Pop and the franchise developed a system over time based on the reality of our assets and the makeup of our team. If we had had some hyperathletic young superstar prodigy then we may have modeled and adapted to that. Why's discussion of basketball playing style gotta get ideological ("this is the right way!!!!!") and borderline racial? wack

I love watching the Spurs play, I love watching them play more than any other team out there, but honestly if you look at some super athlete doing an awesome alleyoop dunk or some crazy athletic feat and react to that by sniffing condescendingly and rolling your eyes about how it's not purist basketball and it's monkeyball and blahblah you straight up need to wipe the cum off your lips.

there is definitely race involved as well

http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/

people on ST are either clueless about it or or flat or racist towards blacks players on opposing teams that are very athletic and talented. De Andre Jordan, D. Rose, & Westbrook have all been called that regularly on ST.

[in my eyes 911]

there is definitely race involved as well

http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/

people on ST are either clueless about it or or flat or racist towards blacks players on opposing teams that are very athletic and talented. De Andre Jordan, D. Rose, & Westbrook have all been called that regularly on ST.


When you generalize and say everyone on ST your just as ignorant as them. Manu Ginobili received racism here, the fans who live in the city of San Antonio received racism. Your taking one comment in an ocean of good grace towards Paul George and getting on your soap box prematurely.

[Chinook]

there is definitely race involved as well

http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/

people on ST are either clueless about it or or flat or racist towards blacks players on opposing teams that are very athletic and talented. De Andre Jordan, D. Rose, & Westbrook have all been called that regularly on ST.

People are prejudiced. Words aren't. You can't be accidentally bigoted. And you shouldn't be labeled as such just because someone is offended by your words.

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

[cd021]

When you generalize and say everyone on ST your just as ignorant as them. Manu Ginobili received racism here, the fans who live in the city of San Antonio received racism. Your taking one comment in an ocean of good grace towards Paul George and getting on your soap box prematurely.

I didn't say everyone i said "people on ST" and "Jordan, d. Rose, & Westbrook and all have been called that regularly on ST"

that doesn't generalize at all. How is that talking on soap box calling out the people on ST that call black players on opposing teams "monkey ballers"?

Of course Manu gets discriminated against but it didn't pertain to the qoute I referenced.

I've seen at least 3 or 4 different posters make comments referencing monkey ball or something similar to that in the 11 combined pages upstairs and in the NBA Forum.

Sure they are plenty of well wishers for George but i'm not willing to let those posts slide.

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.


:lol pretty much

[EVAY]

As it pertains to the NCAA I doubt the NBA teams care, because they aren't committed to anybody yet. I agree the logic extends to preseason games, and considering the playoffs are really all that matter I don't see why it doesn't extend to the regular season too.

In fact, the NBA would be hypocrites to ban stars on the basis of injury risk, as they complain about teams doing the exact same thing in the regular season. We got fined for it, although that was perhaps more to do with rest than injury risk, but it's fair to say the risk of injury is increased when players are fatigued.

Agreed on all points, especially when the players are fatigued or already injured (as is the case with Manu now).

Doesn't mean that the GMs and Owners won't try to run with the argument. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, because one of the big reasons that the U.S. started going with NBA players is that our college players were so much younger and less experienced than what we were seeing from national teams in the Olympics.

Imagine what will happen if no NBA players were allowed to play in the Olympics. National teams would take on a whole different meaning. What happened before our NBA players were allowed to play for the U.S. team is that our NCAA players were pitted against the 'National Teams' from other nations, where the players from other countries were often payed by their own countries. The NCAA forbids payment (or used to do so) from any source, so we were essentially playing amateurs vs. professionals. That was the point at which the U.S. said "Damn - if they are gonna get paid, we ought to use our guys that get paid".

[cd98]

NBA profits from stars playing overseas. Team USA has expanded the league around the globe. As Team USA and international stars have played in these tournaments, basketball has globalized, and NBA has gotten richer. Teams like global NBA, they just want other team's star playing in it.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.
It's supposed to refer to any player with more athleticism than brains regardless of race, but of course, the schtick has long since jumped the shark as people apply it to anyone who runs fast, jumps high, and/or dunks....

[cd98]

NBA stars in Olympics is about marketing and profits. That's why NBA allows it. I doubt they care who wins gold as long as the winner has a bunch of NBA players on it.

[Chinook]

It's supposed to refer to any player with more athleticism than brains regardless of race, but of course, the schtick has long since jumped the shark as people apply it to anyone who runs fast, jumps high, and/or dunks....

Yep. The person who first said it in this thread misused it. The same is true for folks who still use the term to describe Blake Griffin. It's hard to be a successful monkeyballer. That's why people use it as a pejorative.

[cd021]

People are prejudiced. Words aren't. You can't be accidentally bigoted. And you shouldn't be labeled as such just because someone is offended by your words.

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.

That can get a bit murky. A person may not be bigoted but have prejudices against certain races (among other things like religion) but thats

I'd disagree on the monkey-ball issue . Black people have been referred to monkeys for 130 years. Some posters have probably used "monkeyball" after seeing others use it to describe those particular players without race attached to it. Their are others on ST that have certainly used that term and know how monkey is offensive towards blacks people.

It has been used toward certain black players that rely heavily on athleticism specifically Westbrook, Jordan and Rose and Howard as well.

[Chinook]

That can get a bit murky. A person may not be bigoted but have prejudices against certain races (among other things like religion) but thats

I'd disagree on the monkey-ball issue . Black people have been referred to monkeys for 130 years. Some posters have probably used "monkeyball" after seeing others use it to describe those particular players without race attached to it. Their are others on ST that have certainly used that term and know how monkey is offensive towards blacks people.

It has been used toward certain black players that rely heavily on athleticism specifically Westbrook, Jordan and Rose and Howard as well.

A term can't be racist if it isn't trying to deride a whole race. For monkeyball to apply, it would essentially have to be the same as "black-person ball". But seeing as the vast majority of black players can't be described as playing monkeyball, and especially seeing as the NBA greats didn't play that way, it's hard for me to take any offense to the term.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm well-versed in slurs. I understand what you're saying. But I also don't believe it applies to this case. You could have used a different term, like idiotball or something, and nothing would be different.

Words only have power if you give it to them. Condemning the use of a word will not take away its power. Not taking any special connotation from it will.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's supposed to refer to any player with more athleticism than brains regardless of race, but of course, the schtick has long since jumped the shark as people apply it to anyone who runs fast, jumps high, and/or dunks....

Nope having more athleticism than brains is fine. Its relying on that athleticism and completely foregoing any evolution in skill set that makes its monkeyball Imo

[Obstructed_View]

Yep. The person who first said it in this thread misused it. The same is true for folks who still use the term to describe Blake Griffin. It's hard to be a successful monkeyballer. That's why people use it as a pejorative.

Blake gets labeled with that less and less as he works to add new dimensions to his game. He's still an astonishing jumper, but he's no longer JUST an astonishing jumper.

[Chinook]

Blake gets labeled with that less and less as he works to add new dimensions to his game. He's still an astonishing jumper, but he's no longer JUST an astonishing jumper.

Yeah, and as Jordan's IQ increases, he's also shedding the label. Wiggins and Aaron Gordon are each incredibly athletic and raw, but Wiggins seems to be getting a decent skill-set together while Gordon still seems like a bust. I'd only consider the latter a monkey-baller.

[BatManu20]

I don't have internet or access to a TV for one day and this is what I miss?? Fuck that was terrible.

[RD2191]

I don't have internet or access to a TV for one day and this is what I miss?? Fuck that was terrible.
:lolLike High School. Miss a day and you miss 2-3 fights, surprise party, someone getting arrested.

[Captivus]

I didnt read all the posts but someone on youtube is saying that and I quote:
The goal was 2feet closer to the base line than In the nba so if they were playing in an nba arena or one that was regulation it wouldn't have happened

[Plum Island]

i wish we could break the bones of the reptilian illuminati, that would be fun

we start with obama, the clerk of the illuminati elite

then with the reptilian british royal family, reptilian cannibals all

then with the satanic vatican, and then break the bones of the evil jesuits


.......i wish it were them with broken bones, and not a fantastic NBA player

goodness

Made me go break out the old David Icke books!
Time to re-familiarize myself with the "Family Tree"...

[SupremeGuy]

I didnt read all the posts but someone on youtube is saying that and I quote:
The goal was 2feet closer to the base line than In the nba so if they were playing in an nba arena or one that was regulation it wouldn't have happenedHoly shit is this some tspence verified information? Pretty fucking crappy if true.

[will_spurs]

Holy shit is this some tspence verified information? Pretty fucking crappy if true.

It's true, and it's been mentioned in the first couple of pages. If the stanchions had been where they usually are on a NBA court this injury wouldn't have happened.

[hater]

3 broken lower legs 3 black ppl. Mmmm

[lmbebo]

It's true, and it's been mentioned in the first couple of pages. If the stanchions had been where they usually are on a NBA court this injury wouldn't have happened.

Word is it was 3 feet 11", min in nba is 4.

[spurraider21]

People are prejudiced. Words aren't. You can't be accidentally bigoted. And you shouldn't be labeled as such just because someone is offended by your words.

I don't think Monkeyball is a particularly charged term in any event, seeing as it clearly doesn't refer to the way black people play in general.
yeah, monkeyball is a term this forum uses in regards to both basketball or football when referring to players that rely solely on athletic ability. its not exclusive to any race

[.G.]

My thoughts and most heartfelt paryers (to whom? meh....the sun?)are with hima t this time of adveristy.....poor millionaire

[.G.]

jajajajajajjajajajajaaajjjajajaaja

[therealtruth]

It's a bad injury. I don't see how he could have made a play on the ball in that situation.

[Obstructed_View]

yeah, monkeyball is a term this forum uses in regards to both basketball or football when referring to players that rely solely on athletic ability. its not exclusive to any race

Tim Tebow, tbh.

[dg7md]

yeah, monkeyball is a term this forum uses in regards to both basketball or football when referring to players that rely solely on athletic ability. its not exclusive to any race

Technically, but I can't help but think that it's used in a racist way, considering many well-known racists in here throw that term around like it's a common phrase that everyone understands. I've hardly seen the phrase used about non-black players (Blake Griffin doesn't exactly count, he's mixed), and it only pops up here in a very xenophobic SpursTalk (especially the NBA Forum).

"Monkeyball" as a concept doesn't really make a ton of sense to me. Is it reckless? Is it low IQ? What is it, exactly? Ginobili 2005? Being athletic? Dunking? Shooting a lot? Cross-overs? Why wouldn't you want an athletic player or someone to do those things? That's clearly what is essential for being an athlete in a fast-moving game like professional basketball. There are hardly any "low IQ" players that are superstars in the league. To be a star you need to be very good at something, which usually translates to wins, which negates the idea of being called out in an insulting way.

Anyway, I hope for the best for Paul George. I can't even imagine how the Pacers community must feel, especially if the rumor about missing the whole year is true. What a bad break for them, especially with Stephenson leaving and having a narrow window open now that LeBron has left the Heat.

[Ice009]

Anyone heard anything about the extent of the damage and if he'll make a full recovery? or is it still too early to tell?

It really, really sucks for the Pacers, as I think they would have had a great chance to reach the ECF again and possibly would have had a great chance to make the NBA finals.

[Robz4000]

Anyone heard anything about the extent of the damage and if he'll make a full recovery? or is it still too early to tell?

It really, really sucks for the Pacers, as I think they would have had a great chance to reach the ECF again and possibly would have had a great chance to make the NBA finals.

Broken tibia and fibula, but it was a clean break with no nerve damage. Sounds like an 8-12 month recovery time.

[Ice009]

Broken tibia and fibula, but it was a clean break with no nerve damage. Sounds like an 8-12 month recovery time.

So that is pretty much the best possible outcome then? I assume it is? Did they say if he can/should make a full recovery?

[dbreiden83080]

The team just needs to do the best they can this year they will still make the playoffs. Just hope Paul can get himself strong and fit for the following season and return to form. It would be tragic and very sad if his career ended on this note or he never got back to where he was.

[Robz4000]

So that is pretty much the best possible outcome then? I assume it is? Did they say if he can/should make a full recovery?

Full recovery is possible, but in every instance I've heard of the athlete has never been quite the same. Especially for someone like PG whose so dependent on his athleticism.

[ducks]

college players will now play in the olymics
mark cuban in 2009 said they should nab still could profit from it
market future nab stars they would represent the usa well

[Chinook]

What a bad break for them.

...

[phxspurfan]

With PG out at least a season, the Cavs surely will have a leg up on the competition. As far as recovery goes, hopefully Paul can make it snappy. And of course, I'm sure the NBA will have a bone to pick with the Las Vegas arena.

[spurs10]

With PG out at least a season, the Cavs surely will have a leg up on the competition. As far as recovery goes, hopefully Paul can make it snappy. And of course, I'm sure the NBA will have a bone to pick with the Las Vegas arena. Wow, a lot of puns there!

[FireMicoHalili]

Send free agents instead eg Richard Hamilton, Jordan Crawford, Michael Beasley

[Bill_Brasky]

Yeah mark im sure college stars who havent gotten paid yet will be more than willing to get paul george'd for free overseas, dumb shit.

[jiggy_55]

True but then again their stiffest competition would be the Nets and Knicks for the 8th seed. I think they are probably still better than both of them.

Ya, but personally I would assume the Knicks will be a better team next season considering the change in management, coaching and some of the players - they could be in the playoffs next season. New Jersey would still be a playoff team they will have Brook Lopez back and they have enough talent. Maybe you are forgetting that Cleveland will be a new addition to the top 8. Charlotte have improved, Washington will grow and added Pierce, Atlanta will have Horford back, Toronto will stay up there. Chicago and Miami will of course be there. That's 10 teams: Miami, Cleveland, Indiana, Chicago, Charlotte, Toronto, New York, Brooklyn, Washington, Atlanta.

Right now I would assume Indiana + 1 other team do not make the playoffs, most likely Atlanta or New York, as the rest of the teams are good enough to make it. Of course anything can change throughout the season due to injuries etc, but this is how the East looks now to me.

[exstatic]

Ya, but personally I would assume the Knicks will be a better team next season considering the change in management, coaching and some of the players - they could be in the playoffs next season. New Jersey would still be a playoff team they will have Brook Lopez back and they have enough talent. Maybe you are forgetting that Cleveland will be a new addition to the top 8. Charlotte have improved, Washington will grow and added Pierce, Atlanta will have Horford back, Toronto will stay up there. Chicago and Miami will of course be there. That's 10 teams: Miami, Cleveland, Indiana, Chicago, Charlotte, Toronto, New York, Brooklyn, Washington, Atlanta.

Right now I would assume Indiana + 1 other team do not make the playoffs, most likely Atlanta or New York, as the rest of the teams are good enough to make it. Of course anything can change throughout the season due to injuries etc, but this is how the East looks now to me.

Puzzled why you think Atlanta won't make it. They did last year, without Horford. They're getting him back, plus their #15 pick. I'd say Atlanta might even threaten for a top 4 seed, and the first round at home.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Wow, a lot of puns there!

I know, too soon, too soon.

He landed RIGHT on it. He should have taken a different ANGLE on that block. PauL George takes defense to a whole new degree. He got back on the fast break. All ignored and/or frowned upon.

But, isn't this how we should come together and heal, as a community? It is the ST way. Why abandon tradition for all of this squeamish sentiment and well-wishes. I thought ST was "hard". Where are the Benefactors, etc. with a homophobic slur for any well-wisher? ST unite!

Puns. Finally, something good has come out of this horrible tragedy. We have the 1.3 million lost in the Killing Fields of the Khmer Rouge, mass graves in Bosnia, Nazis, still active Janjaweed that hacked so many to death they had to do it in shifts to save bullets and sleep, and PauL George's leg. Hopefully, he can overcome this and he can find something to elevate it on for the next 9 months...like, I don't know, a huge pile of cash.

Hopefully this can go Slo-mo "slow" thread. Maybe we can wear black "L"s to honor the day it happened, a la pink ribbons for breast cancer awareness. Or a stanchion patch?

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From one of his comments, it seemed like Mark Cuban was wanting to take over USA basketball and make it its own entity that has players that are neither college nor pro, but managed by the NBA. So maybe you use NBDL players. Either way, you use players that the teams have much less financial stake in. Cuban was right all along. The dream teams should have died in 1993.

[jiggy_55]

Puzzled why you think Atlanta won't make it. They did last year, without Horford. They're getting him back, plus their #15 pick. I'd say Atlanta might even threaten for a top 4 seed, and the first round at home.

Well I did initially say either them or New York. But again, there are three things to consider there: 1. The likelihood/possibility that Millsap is traded considering he is an expiring contract. 2. Again, I think NYK will be improved under Fisher and Pjax. 3. The East was so damn bad last season, it was simply awful.

Thinking it over, I would not be shocked to see a team like Toronto fall out of the playoffs. I see them dropping because they simply took advantage of a horrible East last season, I cannot see them doing too well as many East teams have improved.

Looking at the East I believe there are no championship caliber teams other than Chicago and Cleveland, which they will be once they acquire Kevin Love. I think those teams will be the top 2 seeds in the East. From there on, the East is not as horrible as it was last season and it should be much more competitive. Last season only Indiana and Miami were considered great/good and even then Indiana went through a very rough patch, as did Miami a little bit. My rankings would be something like this:

1. Chicago - DRose back and additional of Gasol, Mirotic
2. Cleveland - needs no explanation, plus Kevin Love is almost surely joining
3. Washington - internal improvement and addition of Pierce
4. Miami - Bosh will put up numbers close to what he did in Toronto, Wade will be more of a focal point again if healthy, and Deng is a nice addition but the team could possibly struggle to get home court
5. Charlotte - internal improvement plus addition of Lance Stephenson
6. Brooklyn - loss of Pierce will hurt a bit, but Dwill, Lopez, and JJ will keep them up
7. Toronto/New York/Atlanta
8. Toronto/New York/Atlanta
9. Toronto/New York/Atlanta
10. Indiana - Starting 5: Hill, Stuckey?, CJ Miles?, West, Hibbert. Loss of George, Stephenson and even Turner. They are going to be bad.

[jiggy_55]

Error, ignore. I guess there is no way to delete a message?

[littlecoyotecoin]

You can edit it to delete most of its content, at least.

[Andthentherewas21]

Well I did initially say either them or New York. But again, there are three things to consider there: 1. The likelihood/possibility that Millsap is traded considering he is an expiring contract. 2. Again, I think NYK will be improved under Fisher and Pjax. 3. The East was so damn bad last season, it was simply awful.

Thinking it over, I would not be shocked to see a team like Toronto fall out of the playoffs. I see them dropping because they simply took advantage of a horrible East last season, I cannot see them doing too well as many East teams have improved.

Looking at the East I believe there are no championship caliber teams other than Chicago and Cleveland, which they will be once they acquire Kevin Love. I think those teams will be the top 2 seeds in the East. From there on, the East is not as horrible as it was last season and it should be much more competitive. Last season only Indiana and Miami were considered great/good and even then Indiana went through a very rough patch, as did Miami a little bit. My rankings would be something like this:

1. Chicago - DRose back and additional of Gasol, Mirotic
2. Cleveland - needs no explanation, plus Kevin Love is almost surely joining
3. Washington - internal improvement and addition of Pierce
4. Miami - Bosh will put up numbers close to what he did in Toronto, Wade will be more of a focal point again if healthy, and Deng is a nice addition but the team could possibly struggle to get home court
5. Charlotte - internal improvement plus addition of Lance Stephenson
6. Brooklyn - loss of Pierce will hurt a bit, but Dwill, Lopez, and JJ will keep them up
7. Toronto/New York/Atlanta
8. Toronto/New York/Atlanta
9. Toronto/New York/Atlanta
10. Indiana - Starting 5: Hill, Stuckey?, CJ Miles?, West, Hibbert. Loss of George, Stephenson and even Turner. They are going to be bad.

Toronto and Atlanta have a better chance of making the playoffs than this years Knicks. Amare is a shell of his former self and is making $23 mil, Bargnani has been terrible and can't play defense, Melo never has. That leaves Dalembert as their only frontcourt defender (ironically making only $4 mil while the other three will make a combined $56+ mil). Combine that with the lack of defense at pg (caledron), JR Smith is still on the team, and installing a completely different offensive system (and probably defensive system) on a Knicks team that couldn't make the playoffs last season in a historically weak east, its hard to see how they would leapfrog Toronto and Atlanta

[smeagol]

If the US sends scrubs or college kids they'll get beaten by the likes of Brazil, Spain, Russia, Lithuania, France, etc, etc.

[james evans]

i dont know why everyone thinks love could possibly put up the same number playing with lebron and irving. lebron likes to drive to the basket a lot. if love wants to sit in the paint, that stops his driving so his rebounds will go down on the offensive end. i hope coaches have figured out by now that love would rather go after rebounds than guard his defensive assignment(which he isn't good at anyway) so when they play the spurs, play diaw and duncan at the same time. if he's on duncan, duncan fuks him up in the paint. if he's on diaw, diaw can just sit at the 3 point line and pull him away from the basket. quite simple really. he's a good addition to a team, but when they play miami and he has to guard bosh, bosh will destroy him

[moisaenz]

If pop was the coach there would not be a need to have all these superstars . most probably a team made up of middle tier players would suffice

[TampaDude]

With PG out at least a season, the Cavs surely will have a leg up on the competition. As far as recovery goes, hopefully Paul can make it snappy. And of course, I'm sure the NBA will have a bone to pick with the Las Vegas arena.

I guess someone else will have to STEP up and perform. Hopefully, that player can take advantage of his BIG BREAK. I'm sure there are plenty of players who would like to take a CRACK at filling Paul George's SHOES.

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Error, ignore. I guess there is no way to delete a message?

There's an option on the edit page to delete the post entirely. I think it's a radio button.

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If the US sends scrubs or college kids they'll get beaten by the likes of Brazil, Spain, Russia, Lithuania, France, etc, etc.

Which is exactly how it should be. I loved the dream team, too, but it's time to go back to it being about competition. Many people think it's about American domination, but it's really about money.

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i dont know why everyone thinks love could possibly put up the same number playing with lebron and irving. lebron likes to drive to the basket a lot. if love wants to sit in the paint, that stops his driving so his rebounds will go down on the offensive end. i hope coaches have figured out by now that love would rather go after rebounds than guard his defensive assignment(which he isn't good at anyway) so when they play the spurs, play diaw and duncan at the same time. if he's on duncan, duncan fuks him up in the paint. if he's on diaw, diaw can just sit at the 3 point line and pull him away from the basket. quite simple really. he's a good addition to a team, but when they play miami and he has to guard bosh, bosh will destroy him

The Heat are really good when Chris Bosh goes to work inside. The Thunder are really good when Serge Ibaka goes to work inside. Kevin Love never goes to work inside and doesn't play defense like the other two. I was much more worried about the Cavs with Lebron plus all the talent they're going to give up to get Love.

[cd021]

Ya, but personally I would assume the Knicks will be a better team next season considering the change in management, coaching and some of the players - they could be in the playoffs next season. New Jersey would still be a playoff team they will have Brook Lopez back and they have enough talent. Maybe you are forgetting that Cleveland will be a new addition to the top 8. Charlotte have improved, Washington will grow and added Pierce, Atlanta will have Horford back, Toronto will stay up there. Chicago and Miami will of course be there. That's 10 teams: Miami, Cleveland, Indiana, Chicago, Charlotte, Toronto, New York, Brooklyn, Washington, Atlanta.

Right now I would assume Indiana + 1 other team do not make the playoffs, most likely Atlanta or New York, as the rest of the teams are good enough to make it. Of course anything can change throughout the season due to injuries etc, but this is how the East looks now to me.

I have Indy at 8th post PG injury.

Chicago
Cleveland
Washington
Toronto
Miami
Charlotte
Atlanta
Indy


Nets
Knicks

[SupremeGuy]

With PG out at least a season, the Cavs surely will have a leg up on the competition. As far as recovery goes, hopefully Paul can make it snappy. And of course, I'm sure the NBA will have a bone to pick with the Las Vegas arena.http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925101955/powerlisting/images/a/a9/I-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

[littlecoyotecoin]

The Heat are really good when Chris Bosh goes to work inside. The Thunder are really good when Serge Ibaka goes to work inside. Kevin Love never goes to work inside and doesn't play defense like the other two. I was much more worried about the Cavs with Lebron plus all the talent they're going to give up to get Love.

I thought so, too. It seems he's putting himself in a similar position he was in on The Heat. (No Bench)

[mavsfan1000]

Just saw the injury. It was bad. But I've seen worse. Shaun Livingston was worse imo. And the worse injury ever. Sid Vicious.

[ducks]

If the US sends scrubs or college kids they'll get beaten by the likes of Brazil, Spain, Russia, Lithuania, France, etc, etc.

so what if they do
I think the ncaa title team would go deep might not win it but go deep

[Sean Cagney]

Just saw the injury. It was bad. But I've seen worse. Shaun Livingston was worse imo. And the worse injury ever. Sid Vicious.

Yeah Livingstons was flat out horrible, remember it well. That basically ended his career as far as potential went, he will never be the same.

[Chinook]

First off, if the league has an age cap for FIBA play, a lot of international teams will get worse, not just the US team. Second, it would probably suit the US team fine to use college players, as those guys would have a lot more time to dedicate to the team than pro players do. The AU program could actually serve its main purpose again.

[exstatic]

First off, if the league has an age cap for FIBA play, a lot of international teams will get worse, not just the US team. Second, it would probably suit the US team fine to use college players, as those guys would have a lot more time to dedicate to the team than pro players do. The AU program could actually serve its main purpose again.

The league wouldn't make the determination of an age limit, it would be USA*Basketball, and only affect their teams. International teams would go on as now.

[Chinook]

The league wouldn't make the determination of an age limit, it would be USA*Basketball, and only affect their teams. International teams would go on as now.

I don't think so. I doubt they'd only target their own players when foreign players are also risks to get hurt. They may even be more likely, since there isn't the same quantity of strong players for those teams. Cuban wants a blanket age limit. We'll see whether the league pushes for that or tries to just limit US participation. I don't see the latter going over well legally, though.

[Clipper Nation]

If the US sends scrubs or college kids they'll get beaten by the likes of Brazil, Spain, Russia, Lithuania, France, etc, etc.

Who cares? The liberal shitdumps of Europe can feel free to beat up on our scrubs as long as our stars stay healthy for games that actually matter....

[florige]

Who cares? The liberal shitdumps of Europe can feel free to beat up on our scrubs as long as our stars stay healthy for games that actually matter....


The Olympics like the World Cup are the only games people really care about. The United States could send it's top HS talent to the yearly FIBA's for all I care.

[phxspurfan]

so is he now pg23 1/2

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The Olympics like the World Cup are the only games people really care about. The United States could send it's top HS talent to the yearly FIBA's for all I care.

They could do the same for the Olympics and I'd be okay with it. I don't need a team full of ringers to enjoy rooting for my country.

[hater]

mmm the Olympic Basketball Tournament is way, way, way more important than Basketball World Cup

what I don't understand is why doesn't the US just use B class players for the international competitions? Are they that scared of losing?

This is the team I'd send and they probably would have a great chance at winning:
Reggie Jackson
Jamal Crawford
Wes Mathews
Chandler Parsons
Robin Lopez

tbh

[Spur|n|Austin]

Fucking sick. I saw that shit live! Just no..

Yeah man, me too - I freaking yelled in pain and half the people in the restaraunt looked at me like I was crazy :lol

[HI-FI]

finally got around to seeing it.

not much else to be said, pretty disgusting. not the worst thing I've seen but still terrible and I feel bad for both George and Pacer fans.

[jiggy_55]

There's an option on the edit page to delete the post entirely. I think it's a radio button.

Thanks for the tip, but could not find it on the edit page.

[jiggy_55]

Toronto and Atlanta have a better chance of making the playoffs than this years Knicks. Amare is a shell of his former self and is making $23 mil, Bargnani has been terrible and can't play defense, Melo never has. That leaves Dalembert as their only frontcourt defender (ironically making only $4 mil while the other three will make a combined $56+ mil). Combine that with the lack of defense at pg (caledron), JR Smith is still on the team, and installing a completely different offensive system (and probably defensive system) on a Knicks team that couldn't make the playoffs last season in a historically weak east, its hard to see how they would leapfrog Toronto and Atlanta

Amare could be shipped out mid-season due to his huge expiring contract, which opens up lots of opportunities to receive some talent in return. Lots of team want expiring deals and there's none bigger than Amare's. And if not, then I guess they may not make the playoffs, but that at least means big money to spend on FAs next season. I can't see Melo's talent not push the Knicks through to the playoffs next season, they had many injuries and troubles and a horrible coach. Things should improve, whether that is significant enough for them to be a playoff team we shall see. Shumpert, Hardaway will improve. And no matter how bad Calderon's defense is, he is a huge upgrade offensively and is a great shooter and team player who will help Carmelo.

[Chinook]

Thanks for the tip, but could not find it on the edit page.

It's right above the edit window. You have to check the box and click the button. If it's within five minutes, the post will disappear. Otherwise, it will just delete the text.