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phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 11:51 AM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-name-becky-hammon-assistant-coach

Spurs say 'Gimme Dat Becky' :lobt:


Spurs Name Becky Hammon Assistant Coach

August 5, 2014
Posted: Aug 05, 2014
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The San Antonio Spurs today announced that Becky Hammon has been hired as an assistant coach. Per club policy terms of the contract were not announced.

Hammon, who is currently in her 16th WNBA season, announced on July 23 that she would retire as a player at the conclusion of the 2014 season. Named one of the WNBA’s Top 15 Players of All-Time in July of 2011, Hammon ranks seventh in WNBA history in points (with 5,809), fourth in assists (1,687) and sixth in games (445).

“I very much look forward to the addition of Becky Hammon to our staff,” said Spurs Head Coach Gregg Popovich. “Having observed her working with our team this past season, I’m confident her basketball IQ, work ethic and interpersonal skills will be a great benefit to the Spurs.”

A six-time WNBA All-Star, Hammon has spent the last eight seasons with the San Antonio Stars. She is the Stars all-time leader in assists (1,112) and three-point field goals made (493) while ranking second in franchise history in points (3,442) and games (218). In 2012 Hammon was the top vote getter for the Stars All-Decade Team.

In her WNBA career Hammon has appeared in 445 regular season games, averaging 13.1 points, 3.8 assists and 2.5 rebounds in 28.0 minutes. She has earned All-WNBA First Team honors twice (in 2007 and 2009) and was named to the All-WNBA Second Team in 2005 and 2008.

A three-time All-American at Colorado State, Hammon went unpicked in the 1999 WNBA Draft. She signed with the New York Liberty in May of 1999 and spent eight seasons with the Liberty before being traded to the Stars in a draft night deal in 2007.

Dex
08-05-2014, 11:54 AM
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/52535iBD931700F3F8A269?v=mpbl-1

Budkin
08-05-2014, 11:55 AM
Solid hire! :tu

Darius Bieber
08-05-2014, 11:55 AM
Can she legally be in a men's locker room?

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 11:55 AM
Parker will have someone new to go after lol

http://southerntimesgirlsandsports.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/n28884038846_839053_2214.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/-3pDOt_LgH1E/UZWJKR-jURI/AAAAAAACPQw/19BHLWiNv0k/s576/CSantiago%252520SPM%2525202013-008.JPG

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/k99.com/files/2012/07/Becky-Hammon.jpg

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 11:56 AM
Can she legally be in a men's locker room?

If female reporters can be there, I don't see why team staff can't.

Richie
08-05-2014, 11:57 AM
Is she the first female asst. coach in the NBA? Great to see, if Pop thinks she's good enough then she's good enough.

4down
08-05-2014, 11:57 AM
Messina gotta be pissed, tbh although it could end up being the Russian connection

RD2191
08-05-2014, 11:57 AM
Congrats to Hammon!

Cry Havoc
08-05-2014, 11:58 AM
Spurs continue to beat the rest of the league to the punch. Foreign players can clearly compete in the NBA, and my guess is that Becky will a more than able assistant coach on the team. This will work and likely be copied throughout the league.

Plus, if she beats you in a game of 21, you're off the team. :lol

Cry Havoc
08-05-2014, 11:58 AM
Is she the first female asst. coach in the NBA? Great to see, if Pop thinks she's good enough then she's good enough.

Yes.

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 11:59 AM
Is she the first female asst. coach in the NBA? Great to see, if Pop thinks she's good enough then she's good enough.

Google sez no, but she's close. And teh #1 girl was for summer league.


http://www.npr.org/2014/08/02/337359843/coaching-the-big-leagues-natalie-nakase-makes-nba-history

Coaching The Big Leagues: Natalie Nakase Makes NBA History


Nakase is the assistant video coordinator for the Los Angeles Clippers, but her sights are set on the Clippers' bench — a goal she revealed to her co-workers.

"I mentioned to some of the coaches ... that my goal eventually is to be a head coach in the NBA," Nakase tells NPR's Eric Westervelt.

Then Doc Rivers, the head coach of the Clippers, called Nakase into his office. She thought she was in trouble.

Instead, she was getting a job offer.

"He just pulled me in and he said, 'Would you want to coach summer league?' ... My first response was shock," she says. "And then I said yes right away."

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 12:00 PM
if she beats you in a game of 21, you're off the team


That's gonna go up next to the Riis quote. Like "pound that rock, but you better be better than a girl. Sorry Nando."

anakha
08-05-2014, 12:02 PM
Natalie Nakase (http://www.npr.org/2014/08/02/337359843/coaching-the-big-leagues-natalie-nakase-makes-nba-history)'s thunder has been completely stolen.

anakha
08-05-2014, 12:03 PM
Google sez no, but she's close. And teh #1 girl was for summer league.


http://www.npr.org/2014/08/02/337359843/coaching-the-big-leagues-natalie-nakase-makes-nba-history

Coaching The Big Leagues: Natalie Nakase Makes NBA History


Nakase is the assistant video coordinator for the Los Angeles Clippers, but her sights are set on the Clippers' bench — a goal she revealed to her co-workers.

"I mentioned to some of the coaches ... that my goal eventually is to be a head coach in the NBA," Nakase tells NPR's Eric Westervelt.

Then Doc Rivers, the head coach of the Clippers, called Nakase into his office. She thought she was in trouble.

Instead, she was getting a job offer.

"He just pulled me in and he said, 'Would you want to coach summer league?' ... My first response was shock," she says. "And then I said yes right away."

At the end of the article, it does say she's still a video coordinator during the regular season. So basically, Hammon was first.

Cry Havoc
08-05-2014, 12:04 PM
Google sez no, but she's close. And teh #1 girl was for summer league.


http://www.npr.org/2014/08/02/337359843/coaching-the-big-leagues-natalie-nakase-makes-nba-history

Coaching The Big Leagues: Natalie Nakase Makes NBA History


Nakase is the assistant video coordinator for the Los Angeles Clippers, but her sights are set on the Clippers' bench — a goal she revealed to her co-workers.

"I mentioned to some of the coaches ... that my goal eventually is to be a head coach in the NBA," Nakase tells NPR's Eric Westervelt.

Then Doc Rivers, the head coach of the Clippers, called Nakase into his office. She thought she was in trouble.

Instead, she was getting a job offer.

"He just pulled me in and he said, 'Would you want to coach summer league?' ... My first response was shock," she says. "And then I said yes right away."

Summer league don't count for shit.

MeloHype
08-05-2014, 12:05 PM
:lobt2:

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 12:06 PM
Even more reason to get courtside tickets...

smaka
08-05-2014, 12:06 PM
Good stuff :tu I like the signing.

Spurs setting trends, as usual.

davidbowie
08-05-2014, 12:08 PM
God I love this damn team so much.

:flag:

davidbowie
08-05-2014, 12:09 PM
Didn't there used to be rumors of Parker and Becky banging tho lol

DrunkTXLabrat
08-05-2014, 12:09 PM
Very interesting news. Adding a female perspective to the coaching staff, i don't know what to expect. Whatever she adds, it will surely be profound.

FromWayDowntown
08-05-2014, 12:10 PM
I had figured this was likely when Becky announced her retirement, particularly given how effusive Pop was in praising her during last season. It seemed clear that the Spurs genuinely believe she's got something to offer as a coach and she can't commit to coaching full-time with the Spurs if she's still playing for the Stars.

Good for Becky to have earned this sort of belief from the Spurs and good for the Spurs for being progressive enough to consider something like this.

anakha
08-05-2014, 12:10 PM
Boylen, Udoka, Engelland, Forcier, Messina, and Hammon (assuming Marks goes back upstairs).

That's a pretty eclectic bunch right there.

RD2191
08-05-2014, 12:10 PM
Didn't there used to be rumors of Parker and Becky banging tho lol
To be fair, there are always rumors of Parker banging someone. I don't think this is the thread for that discussion though.

Brazil
08-05-2014, 12:11 PM
gimme

lefty
08-05-2014, 12:12 PM
Tony Parker's reaction to the news:

http://media.zoom-cinema.fr/photos/news/250/tony-parker-dans-asterix-aux-jeux-olympi.jpg

Chris
08-05-2014, 12:14 PM
Gimme dat Beckayyy

Ditty
08-05-2014, 12:15 PM
Recruiting strategy, for the horndog's in the NBA.

Ron Swanson
08-05-2014, 12:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIfOjkB17BA

TheGreatYacht
08-05-2014, 12:16 PM
Parker is married assholes

Robz4000
08-05-2014, 12:18 PM
:tu

jag
08-05-2014, 12:19 PM
I hear she's the new layup coach.

manufan10
08-05-2014, 12:20 PM
Parker is married assholes

So was Erin Barry, tbh.

SpursFan86
08-05-2014, 12:22 PM
http://www.empiresports.co/wnba-star-becky-hammon-says-shell-give-blowjob-to-anyone-that-beats-her-in-horse/

Looks like everyone aside from Ayres will be getting BJs on a regular basis.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 12:23 PM
My question is how this affects the bench. The Spurs added two assistants while only losing one.

spurraider21
08-05-2014, 12:23 PM
im sure this was a clause in TP's contract

Chris
08-05-2014, 12:23 PM
I hear she's the new layup coach.

Green and Splitter should be first in line

anakha
08-05-2014, 12:24 PM
http://www.empiresports.co/wnba-star-becky-hammon-says-shell-give-blowjob-to-anyone-that-beats-her-in-horse/

Looks like everyone aside from Ayres will be getting BJs on a regular basis.

Watch Duncan suddenly bust out a double between the legs reverse layup.

RD2191
08-05-2014, 12:24 PM
“I haven’t had a BJ in 37 years!” said Joseph Goldsmith, a 82 year old retired postal worker. “I would have smacked a priest for a BJ but now I hear all I have to do is throw a ball in a hoop a couple times!”

:lolDMC

Brazil
08-05-2014, 12:24 PM
http://www.empiresports.co/wnba-star-becky-hammon-says-shell-give-blowjob-to-anyone-that-beats-her-in-horse/

Looks like everyone aside from Ayres will be getting BJs on a regular basis.

the fuck :lol

Trill Clinton
08-05-2014, 12:25 PM
Parker will have someone new to go after lol

http://southerntimesgirlsandsports.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/n28884038846_839053_2214.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/-3pDOt_LgH1E/UZWJKR-jURI/AAAAAAACPQw/19BHLWiNv0k/s576/CSantiago%252520SPM%2525202013-008.JPG

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/k99.com/files/2012/07/Becky-Hammon.jpg



mmmmmmmhttp://i60.tinypic.com/30b0kkp.png

cutewizard
08-05-2014, 12:28 PM
this is one magickal and enchanting move....

last year, i had these thoughts that an NBA team could use a "team sociologist" similar to the role of Deanna Troi in the starship enterprise

the blend of the feminine integrating the masculine egos on the team could prove invaluable in a tough NBA season

......great move by the Spurs,

one more addition, a player, a veteran like Marion, or Scola, or even Udoh....and we repeat as NBA champs!!!

go Spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssss go!

Prime Time
08-05-2014, 12:30 PM
Funny thing is, Becky probably isn't even the first coach to give a blow job.

Baam
08-05-2014, 12:31 PM
I think she'll make it all the way to NBA head coach, I've believed that ever since her stint last year...

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 12:32 PM
this is one magickal and enchanting move....

I must say I'm pretty enchanted right now.

travis2
08-05-2014, 12:36 PM
Is she the first female asst. coach in the NBA? Great to see, if Pop thinks she's good enough then she's good enough.


Google sez no, but she's close. And teh #1 girl was for summer league.


Actually, according to ESPN, the first was quite a while back. Lisa Boyer was on John Lucas' staff in Cleveland in 2001-2002.

cutewizard
08-05-2014, 12:36 PM
the Spurs are trying to expand their basketball repertoire into regions uncharted by conventional nba teams:

1) hiring a foreigner coach in Ettore Messina, a coaching genius in his own right....imagine if he merges brains with Pop!!!!!

2) drafting a versatile, not-necessarily-super athletic-guy, but positionally has high bb iq in Kyle

3) and the adding of a "team sociologist/asst coach in Miss Becky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooo!!


now the best thing that can happen is for mark cuban and the other owners to copy the Spurs moves, if then can

heheheheheh

cool!

im excited for the coming season.....

CAN THE SPURS WIN 70 GAMES??????????????????????


THAT IS THE QUESTION!

will_spurs
08-05-2014, 12:37 PM
Great move by the front office. And Pop himself saying they wanted her just shuts every other reporting asshole's mouth.

cutewizard
08-05-2014, 12:37 PM
I must say I'm pretty enchanted right now.



by me? hahahaha

want my number baby?

hehehe

RD2191
08-05-2014, 12:38 PM
by me? hahahaha

want my number baby?

hehehe
tits or gtfo

will_spurs
08-05-2014, 12:38 PM
Actually, according to ESPN, the first was quite a while back. Lisa Boyer was on John Lucas' staff in Cleveland in 2001-2002.

Indeed: http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/boyer_lisa00.html

lurker
08-05-2014, 12:39 PM
Parker is married assholes
...that didn't stop him before.

cutewizard
08-05-2014, 12:39 PM
Spurs continue to beat the rest of the league to the punch. Foreign players can clearly compete in the NBA, and my guess is that Becky will a more than able assistant coach on the team. This will work and likely be copied throughout the league.

Plus, if she beats you in a game of 21, you're off the team. :lol


completely agree with you man....

cutewizard
08-05-2014, 12:41 PM
http://www.empiresports.co/wnba-star-becky-hammon-says-shell-give-blowjob-to-anyone-that-beats-her-in-horse/

Looks like everyone aside from Ayres will be getting BJs on a regular basis.


not all women are sluts, use your head once in a while.....hhmmp

jag
08-05-2014, 12:43 PM
Funny thing is, Becky probably isn't even the first coach to give a blow job.

http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/magic-johnson-coachingjpg-6017bcae9aa16303.jpg

lefty
08-05-2014, 12:48 PM
http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/magic-johnson-coachingjpg-6017bcae9aa16303.jpg
:lmao

BatManu20
08-05-2014, 12:51 PM
Nice. All teams will suddenly be hiring female coaches

lefty
08-05-2014, 12:52 PM
If we don't repeat, we'll blame her TBH

manufan10
08-05-2014, 12:56 PM
http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/magic-johnson-coachingjpg-6017bcae9aa16303.jpg

:lol

PingPong
08-05-2014, 01:08 PM
Google sez no, but she's close. And teh #1 girl was for summer league.


Coaching The Big Leagues: Natalie Nakase Makes NBA History

She has japanese heritage, then doesn't count. In Japan, women do almost (99.99%) all Jobs the men do. For a lower salary.

:D

The fórum doesn't work well in the Internet Explorer or it's just me?

Spurs9
08-05-2014, 01:09 PM
So we picked up Messina and Becky hammon, who is off the coaching staff in addition to Marks?

JR3
08-05-2014, 01:12 PM
Nice move Spurs! She isn't the first female coach in the NBA but I think she will be the best!

EVAY
08-05-2014, 01:14 PM
Congrats, Becky!

RE: who will leave the coaching staff - my bet is on Udoka, although I wouldn't mind seeing Boylen leave.

lefty
08-05-2014, 01:15 PM
Parker is married assholes
You're such a sweet kid

Holden_Caulfield
08-05-2014, 01:16 PM
lol what? yay?

PingPong
08-05-2014, 01:20 PM
Parker is married assholes

Don't worry, probably she is more manly than Parker, like most of the female basketball players.

Darius Bieber
08-05-2014, 01:22 PM
Congrats, Becky!

RE: who will leave the coaching staff - my bet is on Udoka, although I wouldn't mind seeing Boylen leave.

Isn't Chip Engelland rumored to go to Golden State?

The Reckoning
08-05-2014, 01:24 PM
thought this was a troll thread tbh

Jimcs50
08-05-2014, 01:25 PM
Isn't Chip Engelland rumored to go to Golden State?

He is not leaving, take that to the bank.

spursparker9
08-05-2014, 01:26 PM
:lol

This is breaking news in ESPN NBA, Yahoo NBA

cd98
08-05-2014, 01:33 PM
Kind of boring news to tell you the truth. We get excited about free agent signings, and so far all the rage are assistant coaches who do most of their work behind the scenes.

loveforthegame
08-05-2014, 01:36 PM
Damn. Nice addition. :tu

Sigz
08-05-2014, 01:37 PM
Mah girl.

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 01:37 PM
Mah girl.

lol, was waiting for you to show up :P

cd98
08-05-2014, 01:42 PM
Not only is this boring news, but I can't think that most men playing basketball are less inclined to listen when a girl is telling them what to do. I'm not saying its right; I'm just saying there is a culture in the NBA, and without Pop's aura and veterans that will support her, I think it would go south pretty fast. Say, if this were the Kings or some team like that, it would end badly.

cjw
08-05-2014, 01:46 PM
Not only is this boring news, but I can't think that most men playing basketball are less inclined to listen when a girl is telling them what to do. I'm not saying its right; I'm just saying there is a culture in the NBA, and without Pop's aura and veterans that will support her, I think it would go south pretty fast. Say, if this were the Kings or some team like that, it would end badly.

Is Scott Brooks a tranny then? Has trouble getting through to Russ most of the time.

gameFACE
08-05-2014, 01:51 PM
Hammon vs Messina to coach the Spurs first time Pop is ejected this season. I predict Hammon.

King
08-05-2014, 02:02 PM
Actually, according to ESPN, the first was quite a while back. Lisa Boyer was on John Lucas' staff in Cleveland in 2001-2002.

Lisa Boyer was a volunteer - never paid, so technically Hammon is the first coach hired.

Juggity
08-05-2014, 02:13 PM
Not only is this boring news, but I can't think that most men playing basketball are less inclined to listen when a girl is telling them what to do. I'm not saying its right; I'm just saying there is a culture in the NBA, and without Pop's aura and veterans that will support her, I think it would go south pretty fast. Say, if this were the Kings or some team like that, it would end badly.

I think you underestimate the professionalism of NBA players in the modern league with respect to their treatment of coaches' backgrounds. 10 years ago I'd be inclined to agree with you that some players wouldn't accept a female coach. 20 years ago, certainly. But in today's league I don't think very many players would have a problem with a coach if he or she does their job well.

Mr. Body
08-05-2014, 02:13 PM
Good on her. Also, sometime in February when the Spurs are blowing the shit out of Minnesota or Boston or someone and the starters haven't seen the court since the first half they should sneak her onto the court and make her the first woman player in the NBA full stop.

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 02:13 PM
most men playing basketball are less inclined to listen when a girl is telling them what to do.

fLrpBLDWyCI

tmtcsc
08-05-2014, 02:13 PM
Funny thing is, Becky probably isn't even the first coach to give a blow job.

Jerry Sandusky.

cd98
08-05-2014, 02:21 PM
I think you underestimate the professionalism of NBA players in the modern league with respect to their treatment of coaches' backgrounds. 10 years ago I'd be inclined to agree with you that some players wouldn't accept a female coach. 20 years ago, certainly. But in today's league I don't think very many players would have a problem with a coach if he or she does their job well.
Ray Rice?

Gervin44Silas13
08-05-2014, 02:26 PM
nice move....cia Pop and KGB Becky....I fucking love this!!!!

Juggity
08-05-2014, 02:29 PM
Ray Rice?

Well, Ray Rice is an NFL player and football players in general seem to be a lot less receptive to anything that challenges the perception of football being a "man's sport." I'm sure the NBA has a few bad apples who don't respect women, but I doubt any NBA team's players as a whole would react negatively to hiring a female coach if said female coach was good at coaching.

Spur|n|Austin
08-05-2014, 02:33 PM
Solid hire! :tu

NASpurs
08-05-2014, 02:33 PM
“She’s been perfect,” Popovich says in that clip. “She knows when to speak, and she knows when to shut up. A lot of people don’t figure that out.”

The perfect woman.

Malik Hairston
08-05-2014, 02:38 PM
http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/magic-johnson-coachingjpg-6017bcae9aa16303.jpg

:lmao..

Malik Hairston
08-05-2014, 02:41 PM
I think you underestimate the professionalism of NBA players in the modern league with respect to their treatment of coaches' backgrounds. 10 years ago I'd be inclined to agree with you that some players wouldn't accept a female coach. 20 years ago, certainly. But in today's league I don't think very many players would have a problem with a coach if he or she does their job well.

Have to disagree with this, tbh..

Even with the advancements in today's society, I'd say there's virtually no chance that a locker room full of men will take orders from a woman coach..I can't even imagine it..

RD2191
08-05-2014, 02:43 PM
She looks like a woman who doesn't take any shit tbh.

Budkin
08-05-2014, 02:43 PM
Have to disagree with this, tbh..

Even with the advancements in today's society, I'd say there's virtually no chance that a locker room full of men will take orders from a woman coach..I can't even imagine it..

Kind of agree with you although I can see Pop forcing the Spurs onboard.

Mr. Body
08-05-2014, 02:44 PM
Have to disagree with this, tbh..

Even with the advancements in today's society, I'd say there's virtually no chance that a locker room full of men will take orders from a woman coach..I can't even imagine it..

Well, you're a fucking moron. Says more about you than anything else, tbh.

cd98
08-05-2014, 02:47 PM
Well, Ray Rice is an NFL player and football players in general seem to be a lot less receptive to anything that challenges the perception of football being a "man's sport." I'm sure the NBA has a few bad apples who don't respect women, but I doubt any NBA team's players as a whole would react negatively to hiring a female coach if said female coach was good at coaching.
Dude. Plenty of NBA players disrespect women. Be it physical abuse like Felton or Jason Kidd or the many players that get women pregnant and then ignore them or avoid them. Usually they'll pay child support while they are making money, but once they retire, they stop paying child support and that is where you see many, many cases filed regarding failure to pay child support, and that includes Spurs players. There is a disrespect for women all around. That's why Charlie Strong had to make it one of his rules.

StumpClassic
08-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Have to disagree with this, tbh..

Even with the advancements in today's society, I'd say there's virtually no chance that a locker room full of men will take orders from a woman coach..I can't even imagine it..

I would have loved to have seen Pat Summit get an opportunity with the Boys...she is one person I believe could pull it off without question.

cd98
08-05-2014, 02:50 PM
She looks like a woman who doesn't take any shit tbh.

That sounds tough, but I'd like to see her coach Demarcus Cousins. When millionaire/talented basketball player doesn't want to respect you, the organization will take the side of the player almost always, and with very few exceptions. Yes, I know that some players don't even respect male coaches, but I bet there are a lot more NBA players that wouldn't respect a female coach in the NBA, much more.

Baam
08-05-2014, 02:53 PM
That sounds tough, but I'd like to see her coach Demarcus Cousins. When millionaire/talented basketball player doesn't want to respect you, the organization will take the side of the player almost always, and with very few exceptions. Yes, I know that some players don't even respect male coaches, but I bet there are a lot more NBA players that wouldn't respect a female coach in the NBA, much more.

That wouldn't happen on the Spurs so really what's the point... Besides players kill their male coaches all the time in the nba...

Floyd Pacquiao
08-05-2014, 02:54 PM
Lol wow what a pussie liberal move, fuck you pop and your faggy liberal agenda..

Malik Hairston
08-05-2014, 02:57 PM
Well, you're a fucking moron. Says more about you than anything else, tbh.

:lmao no, it says that you've never been in a male locker room, tbh..

She'll be fine as an assistant coach with the Spurs, but there's virtually no chance that she would succeed as a Head Coach in the NBA..

Pro sports haven't even transitioned to homosexual male athletes yet(even a fringe player like Michael Sam is generating a ton of controversy), let alone female fucking coaches:lol..

cd98
08-05-2014, 02:58 PM
That wouldn't happen on the Spurs so really what's the point... Besides players kill their male coaches all the time in the nba...

I do think the Spurs are one of the only, if not the only, teams where this would fly. And I say that because Pop rules the team and no one would cross him. Also, all the veteran players will do what Pop says and most tend to be forward thinking anyway. That said, most teams don't have an influence as strong as Pop's, and so my comments stand in general. I wasn't saying it won't work with the Spurs, I was saying I don't see it as a larger trend, at least not for a long time, if ever. But it's also boring news because other than this debate, I don't really care. I'd prefer us do something exciting, like signing a quality free agent. Instead, we are stuck adding assistant coaches.

Malik Hairston
08-05-2014, 03:03 PM
Serious, though:

- I already get nagged and bitched at by my girl at home, why would I want to come to practice every day to get nagged by my female coach?..coach Hammond is going to yell at me because I forgot my socks on the bench?..she's going to give me the silent treatment for a week because I didn't high-five her during a game, tbh?..

- I'm a pro basketball player, and you expect me to take basketball advice from a fucking woman?:lmao..have you niggas ever watched a WBNA game?..

Mr. Body
08-05-2014, 03:12 PM
:lmao no, it says that you've never been in a male locker room, tbh..

She'll be fine as an assistant coach with the Spurs, but there's virtually no chance that she would succeed as a Head Coach in the NBA..

Pro sports haven't even transitioned to homosexual male athletes yet(even a fringe player like Michael Sam is generating a ton of controversy), let alone female fucking coaches:lol..

The world is more advanced than you want it to be. There may be problems here or there but these are people making millions of dollars and if owners tell them to deal, they'll deal. They have women reporters and others around them all the time.

The problem, as with Michael Sam and other similar situations, is usually the coaches and older shitheads like Tony Dungy.

Mr. Body
08-05-2014, 03:12 PM
Serious, though:

- I already get nagged and bitched at by my girl at home, why would I want to come to practice every day to get nagged by my female coach?..coach Hammond is going to yell at me because I forgot my socks on the bench?..she's going to give me the silent treatment for a week because I didn't high-five her during a game, tbh?..

- I'm a pro basketball player, and you expect me to take basketball advice from a fucking woman?:lmao..have you niggas ever watched a WBNA game?..

Great, now I feel like an idiot for replying to you. Good luck with your head in the sewer.

hater
08-05-2014, 03:15 PM
niggas gonna run a train on that punany in the lockerroom

even in road games :lol

Baam
08-05-2014, 03:15 PM
I'm not a feminazist, quite the opposite, but tbh I'm just glad because I like Becky in particular and I think she could do well...

Regarding the wnba, it does suck but players like Becky and McBride at least have skills that I can respect, saw that on twitter the other day :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Fq_UlOAco

That's pretty cool imo, good shooting is good shooting... Now the women who dominate with strength are the worst and there's nothing impressive about it... Kinda like in women soccer, when Japan won the world cup it was great cause they played some beautiful soccer with their midgets against the huge US monkeyballers...

xmas1997
08-05-2014, 03:19 PM
I wonder if this is insurance in case someone hires Mesinna away before Pop retires?

jag
08-05-2014, 03:26 PM
A female coach would go over just fine as long the team is winning. It would take a unique set of players though, and obviously a unique personality as a female coach. But once the losses start piling up, she would become just "some chick" who doesn't belong. It's already hard enough to get players to respect male coaches.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 03:29 PM
I wonder if this is insurance in case someone hires Mesinna away before Pop retires?

I firmly believe Udoka will succeed Pop. If Becky plays her carfs cards right, she may end up as his second or maybe even Messina's in a couple of years when he leaves.

cd98
08-05-2014, 03:31 PM
Making progressive acquisitions is the only way the Spurs can get any media attention. First they go with a foreign assistant coach, then the first women assistant coach, and I guess the final free agent acquisition will be Collins.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 03:35 PM
Making progressive acquisitions is the only way the Spurs can get any media attention. First they go with a foreign assistant coach, then the first women assistant coach, and I guess the final free agent acquisition will be Collins.

Hell no to Collins. The Spurs aren't attention whores like the Nets are. They'd have no issue signing a gay player. But he couldn't be an attention-seeking scrub like that dude is.

cd98
08-05-2014, 03:36 PM
I firmly believe Udoka will succeed Pop. If Becky plays her carfs cards right, she may end up as his second or maybe even Messina's in a couple of years when he leaves.

I can 100% promise you that Becky will not be the head coach if/when Pop leaves. In fact, I doubt Udoka is either. I bet they go outside the current crop. Maybe a Messina if he proves he can coach on a high NBA level, but other than that, they won't give the reins to Becky for sure, and pretty sure Udoka won't get them either.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 03:39 PM
I can 100% promise you that Becky will not be the head coach if/when Pop leaves. In fact, I doubt Udoka is either. I bet they go outside the current crop. Maybe a Messina if he proves he can coach on a high NBA level, but other than that, they won't give the reins to Becky for sure, and pretty sure Udoka won't get them either.

We frankly, completely and totally disagree.

Baam
08-05-2014, 03:42 PM
Pop is still gonna coach for at least 3 years imo so who knows how Udoka and Becky will be viewed at that point...

Chinook
08-05-2014, 03:46 PM
Pop is still gonna coach for at least 3 years imo so who knows how Udoka and Becky will be viewed at that point...

I'm legitimately worried that Udoka will be stolen by the time Pop leaves. He'll get offers to be the main assistant on another team soon, just like Monty Williams did. The organization seems to consider Ime a star in the making. As far as Becky goes, I think she can make HC one day, but I can't see that happening quickly. She'll need to build her resume slowly and under multiple coaches. Besides being a woman, she's also incredibly young, as far as coaches go.

will_spurs
08-05-2014, 03:46 PM
The Spurs are probably the best environment for female asst coach because of Pop's presence. His word is the law and any player who doesn't agree with that is welcome to stfu, be benched, or be traded.

I think it also helps that Becky has one of the best resumes in the WNBA and is already part of the San Antonio community. We also know Parker is friends with her, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn some other players are her friends too.

Smart is smart, gender has little to do with it. And she's smart.

phxspurfan
08-05-2014, 03:47 PM
I think she'll make the most of the opportunity. All it takes is one success to change people's minds. And then the rest will be like the rednecks of the world, refusing to change.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 03:53 PM
I don't think anyone has to worry about this current crop of Spurs dealing with her signing. She already mixes well with them, if last year is any indication. If she didn't, Pop would not have made this move.

cd98
08-05-2014, 03:55 PM
Udoka may be on someone's interview list because he is a Spurs assistant, and that gets hype around the league. Right now, because of the Spurs reputation, it's the "smart" move, even if Spurs assistants have had varying degrees of success, and a good portion of them I wouldn't want coaching the Spurs. And not to bag on Becky because I have no idea if she will make a good coach or not, but I think the perception of a women coach in the NBA among a majority of the NBA players would be negative regardless of how smart she is. And even if they put on a public persona like they want her as a coach, behind the scenes when they are out of the media scrutiny, they will be Dwight Howarding her. She may know her X and O's, but there is a lot more to the NBA than drawing up plays, and it takes real respect from players to follow a coach during a tough time in the season. I'm not sure they would look to a woman at that time. And I'm not saying that's okay, I'm just saying that's my impression of the league.

Juggity
08-05-2014, 04:07 PM
Dude. Plenty of NBA players disrespect women. Be it physical abuse like Felton or Jason Kidd or the many players that get women pregnant and then ignore them or avoid them. Usually they'll pay child support while they are making money, but once they retire, they stop paying child support and that is where you see many, many cases filed regarding failure to pay child support, and that includes Spurs players. There is a disrespect for women all around. That's why Charlie Strong had to make it one of his rules.

As I said before, there are certainly a few bad apples who disrespect women, but I can't name any teams as a whole that would outright reject a good female coach just for being female. Not a single team in the NBA. Least of all the spurs.

justinandimcool
08-05-2014, 04:10 PM
she's probably already better than the bald oaf we call the lead assistant

justinandimcool
08-05-2014, 04:10 PM
in before fire becky threads tbh

Das Texan
08-05-2014, 04:14 PM
Becky was already around the team for almost all of last season, so there wont really be any transition in terms of the team being around her and vice versa.

Hopefully this signals the beginning of the end of Boyan and Ayres with him.

Udoka isnt leaving the Spurs unless its to becoming a head coach somewhere.

HI-FI
08-05-2014, 04:17 PM
Tony Parker's reaction to the news:

http://media.zoom-cinema.fr/photos/news/250/tony-parker-dans-asterix-aux-jeux-olympi.jpg
:lmao
Parker with his iconic douche stare.
it will be like the Penn State case, someone will walk into the showerroom once they hear "flesh slapping" sounds.


overall though, I think it's an interesting and good hire. crazy to think how the Spurs have become more mainstream the last few years, their uniqueness and progressive style celebrated more.

PingPong
08-05-2014, 04:19 PM
Not only is this boring news, but I can't think that most men playing basketball are less inclined to listen when a girl is telling them what to do. I'm not saying its right; I'm just saying there is a culture in the NBA, and without Pop's aura and veterans that will support her, I think it would go south pretty fast. Say, if this were the Kings or some team like that, it would end badly.

Few decades ago, someone would say the White men playing basketball or in any kind of environment were less inclined to listen a black man. Can you figure what you are saying? There's something called hiearchy in a group of apes or in a well structured group of people. In the first case, the stronger, the bravest has the command; in civilized envinronment, the one incumbed to give order has it. Simple like that.

cd98
08-05-2014, 04:24 PM
As I said before, there are certainly a few bad apples who disrespect women, but I can't name any teams as a whole that would outright reject a good female coach just for being female. Not a single team in the NBA. Least of all the spurs.
If an NBA team outright rejected a good female coach, they would be attacked by the media and political correct movement and NOW. So they wouldn't outright reject, they just would never find a reason to hire, but the underlying reason would be, in my opinion, they don't want women head coaches. An assistant coach for some teams could work because they don't demand the same respect. But a head coach...I just see it as highly, highly unlikely.

cd98
08-05-2014, 04:25 PM
Few decades ago, someone would say the White men playing basketball or in any kind of environment were less inclined to listen a black man. Can you figure what you are saying? There's something called hiearchy in a group of apes or in a well structured group of people. In the first case, the stronger, the bravest has the command; in civilized envinronment, the one incumbed to give order has it. Simple like that. Well, maybe in a few decades, there will be a female head coach in the NBA. I think we are a long way off from that.

spursfan4ever
08-05-2014, 04:31 PM
Great.. Male vs. female debate... Really...?

ABC
08-05-2014, 04:32 PM
Some people aren't giving women enough credit here. There will be female assistant coaches that are so good that they will earn the respect of players and have no problem becoming head coaches.

Malik Hairston
08-05-2014, 04:34 PM
Man, a lot of you sound like you've never been in a male locker room, tbh..

Hemotivo
08-05-2014, 04:48 PM
http://bucket1.clanacion.com.ar/anexos/fotos/20/gregg-popovich-1925020w620.jpg

leo_d
08-05-2014, 04:49 PM
I think that if there is any doubts about Becky cappabilities, will be more related to the fact that she doesnīt have any NBA experience, not because of her gender or her intelligence.

The off the chart habilities of NBA players, affect the way you coach beyond X and Oīs, and coaches in the NBA have been competing against this talent almost their entire careers. This is the same problem Messina could face.

Lucky for them, the Spurs are the one team where, if given the time, they can work it out.

Prime Time
08-05-2014, 05:05 PM
I think that if there is any doubts about Becky cappabilities, will be more related to the fact that she doesnīt have any NBA experience, not because of her gender or her intelligence.

The off the chart habilities of NBA players, affect the way you coach beyond X and Oīs, and coaches in the NBA have been competing against this talent almost their entire careers. This is the same problem Messina could face.

Lucky for them, the Spurs are the one team where, if given the time, they can work it out.
In all honesty, I haven't seen one person bring up the experience factor. It's all "WOO HOO, GO BECKY!"

But it's actually pretty important when you think about it. Really, Becky becoming a coach doesn't seem much different than when Avery Johnson or Jason Kidd become coaches - and both of them failed at it. I trust in Becky a little more because she seems well composed, but technically her coaching repetition is an open question.

Hell, I'd even say the fact the Spurs signed her plays a factor. When the NBA Champions with the best coaching staff bar-none hire a female, it seems like a great move. But if a team like Minnesota or Detroit did it, everyone would probably be laughing at how 'bitch made' they are.

Budkin
08-05-2014, 05:10 PM
Standing Ovation For Spurs:

If you’re looking for yet another reason to love the San Antonio Spurs, the team’s latest hire might just help your cause.

On Tuesday, the reigning NBA champions announced they had hired Becky Hammon as an assistant coach. Yes, you read that correctly. The six-time WNBA All-Star and beloved San Antonio Star will join the coaching staff after she retires at the end of the season.

I will now give you a moment to do your favorite celebratory dance or find the hand-clapping emoji on your phone.

http://espn.go.com/espnw/athletes-life/blog/post/13403/standing-ovation-spurs

jeebus
08-05-2014, 05:10 PM
so how long until this slut gets knocked up by Marco?

Budkin
08-05-2014, 05:11 PM
so how long until this slut gets knocked up by Marco?

#belichamp

GSH
08-05-2014, 05:12 PM
I think that if there is any doubts about Becky cappabilities, will be more related to the fact that she doesnīt have any NBA experience, not because of her gender or her intelligence.


Ummm... Pop didn't have any NBA experience, when he was hired. She knows the game as well as anybody.

Will everybody accept her? Well take a look back at the reception Violet Palmer got as an NBA official. She survived, and eventually even Charles Barkley apologized for some of his comments. But there are still fans (some of them here on SpursTalk) who bitch about her as a referee. She's as good as nearly every other official in the NBA - some people will never accept her because she's a woman in a "man's sport". And then there was Dee Kantner, the other female NBA official, who got fired. She was no worse than a lot of other new officials, but she was perceived as "weak" - mostly because she wasn't butch enough.

Becky Hammon has done enough to earn a shot. There's no guarantee that her experience will translate into coaching. But if she doesn't work out, it won't be because she's a woman, or because she's lacking in her understanding of the NBA game. If she's got the goods (as a coach), the players will listen to her. If she doesn't, they won't. And there will always be fringe assholes who will never accept her. Different strokes.



Some people aren't giving women enough credit here. There will be female assistant coaches that are so good that they will earn the respect of players and have no problem becoming head coaches.

This, right here. Ultimately, winning is more important to competitive athletes. Some would rather make a point, but most of them will never wear a championship ring. Most will listen to someone worth listening to.

TrainOfThought5
08-05-2014, 05:15 PM
Well... the PR boost for the Spurs will certainly be robust. Interesting to see the media reaction.

leo_d
08-05-2014, 05:16 PM
In all honesty, I haven't seen one person bring up the experience factor. It's all "WOO HOO, GO BECKY!"

But it's actually pretty important when you think about it. Really, Becky becoming a coach doesn't seem much different than when Avery Johnson or Jason Kidd become coaches - and both of them failed at it. I trust in Becky a little more because she seems well composed, but technically her coaching repetition is an open question.

Hell, I'd even say the fact the Spurs signed her plays a factor. When the NBA Champions with the best coaching staff bar-none hire a female, it seems like a great move. But if a team like Minnesota or Detroit did it, everyone would probably be laughing at how 'bitch made' they are.

Clearly, when someone like Popovich trust her, is because there might be serious talent to be seen, but is a more risky move that to hire Avery Johnson or Kidd, because those guys (like all ex players who became coaches) competed against the best under the NBA rules all their careers, Becky Hammond and Messina didnīt.

Birn
08-05-2014, 05:25 PM
I think this is a great hire. Becky will do very well and the players will welcome her and respect her. I'm curious about coach messina. Don't know him personally but he strikes me as someone that believes women have a certain place in society.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 05:26 PM
Ummm... Pop didn't have any NBA experience, when he was hired. She knows the game as well as anybody.

Will everybody accept her? Well take a look back at the reception Violet Palmer got as an NBA official. She survived, and eventually even Charles Barkley apologized for some of his comments. But there are still fans (some of them here on SpursTalk) who bitch about her as a referee. She's as good as nearly every other official in the NBA - some people will never accept her because she's a woman in a "man's sport". And then there was Dee Kantner, the other female NBA official, who got fired. She was no worse than a lot of other new officials, but she was perceived as "weak" - mostly because she wasn't butch enough.

Becky Hammon has done enough to earn a shot. There's no guarantee that her experience will translate into coaching. But if she doesn't work out, it won't be because she's a woman, or because she's lacking in her understanding of the NBA game. If she's got the goods (as a coach), the players will listen to her. If she doesn't, they won't. And there will always be fringe assholes who will never accept her. Different strokes.




This, right here. Ultimately, winning is more important to competitive athletes. Some would rather make a point, but most of them will never wear a championship ring. Most will listen to someone worth listening to.

The post you're responding to (the first one) is talking about Hammond becoming a head coach, not an assistant. Pop had years of experience under coaching legends by the time he got the big chair.

leo_d
08-05-2014, 05:28 PM
Ummm... Pop didn't have any NBA experience, when he was hired.

Sure, but Popovich was not hired by a championship team, on the other hand the bar for Becky is set really high. I donīt think the core of the spurs will have a problem with her beeing a woman, they will have a problem if her takes are less than great, because they are aiming to nothing more that another championship.

Anyway, is a risky move by Popovich, and not for her beeing a woman.

BlackSwordsMan
08-05-2014, 05:35 PM
great fucking organization :cry

Chinook
08-05-2014, 05:36 PM
Apparently, I stand corrected.

benefactor
08-05-2014, 05:44 PM
so how long until this slut gets knocked up by Marco?
About 2 minutes after she wanders through the locker room and gets a look at his long, thick Italian sausage.

xmas1997
08-05-2014, 05:56 PM
Holy crap!
This is making World TV News on just about every station!
:flag:

PingPong
08-05-2014, 05:58 PM
so how long until this slut gets knocked up by Marco?

Dat fucking beta crybaby?



I think that if there is any doubts about Becky cappabilities, will be more related to the fact that she doesnīt have any NBA experience, not because of her gender or her intelligence.




Well, at least, she can't be worse than Vinny Del Negro, McHale and Byron Scott

LkrFan
08-05-2014, 06:26 PM
:rollin :lmao :rollin

Mugen
08-05-2014, 06:30 PM
Pretty sure Whoopi Goldberg was the first female NBA coach tbh.

Arcadian
08-05-2014, 06:34 PM
:lol I knew there would be sexist comments in this thread, but some of you are actually serious about it? Fuck off. The NBA has apparently moved on from sexism, unlike you faggots.

100%duncan
08-05-2014, 06:50 PM
http://media.cleveland.com/shaw_impact/photo/magic-johnson-coachingjpg-6017bcae9aa16303.jpg

omfg :lmao

Hoover
08-05-2014, 06:52 PM
Making progressive acquisitions is the only way the Spurs can get any media attention. First they go with a foreign assistant coach, then the first women assistant coach, and I guess the final free agent acquisition will be Collins.

We all know how much the Spurs CRAVE media attention, too.

You're a fucking idiot, go find a Cavs board and suck Lebron's dick already.

Capster
08-05-2014, 06:56 PM
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/08/06/sports/Y-SPURS/Y-SPURS-master675.jpg

PingPong
08-05-2014, 06:56 PM
http://courtsideaccess.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Becky-Hammon.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/cbbeefy8/12-1.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc11/joejam414/Signature%20pictures/gcbh.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/HotForHammon/Silver%20Stars%20Pics/2004_Becky_tummy_weights.jpg

She's cute but Always use those dyke pants?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nOc5KvJf5as/SKIChADDr9I/AAAAAAAAACU/aZJjix5nd30/s320/becky+hammon+1.jpg

GSH
08-05-2014, 07:05 PM
The post you're responding to (the first one) is talking about Hammond becoming a head coach, not an assistant. Pop had years of experience under coaching legends by the time he got the big chair.


Sure, but Popovich was not hired by a championship team, on the other hand the bar for Becky is set really high. I donīt think the core of the spurs will have a problem with her beeing a woman, they will have a problem if her takes are less than great, because they are aiming to nothing more that another championship.

Anyway, is a risky move by Popovich, and not for her beeing a woman.


I'm not going to dig back through SpursTalk archives, or old media articles. But there have been many comments made about Pop's lack of NBA experience, and how it might affect his credibility with actual NBA players. When they lost games, the Pop haters made comments to the effect of, "What do you expect from a guy who never played in the NBA himself?"


You'll notice that you don't hear those comments anymore. Winning does that.

And no, the original comment didn't say anything about "head" coaching. It said that she might not understand the crazy athletic prowess of NBA players, since she's never been there. It also mentioned Messina possibly having the same problem. Both of them are assistants, not head coaches.

I wasn't bashing the OP, just pointing out that the issue of no NBA experience was pointed toward Pop, and he did fine. A lot of ex-players have failed as coaches, so that's not really the test. Pop had the benefit of coaching under some great head coaches. Becky Hammon will be learning from one of the best. She may not turn out to be head coach material - but she has all of the qualifications she needs. This isn't a publicity stunt by Spurs' management. If they didn't see real potential, she would be a distraction. They don't do distractions. Especially with a very real possibility of a repeat Championship, and at the close of Tim and Manu's careers.



Sure, but Popovich was not hired by a championship team, on the other hand the bar for Becky is set really high. I donīt think the core of the spurs will have a problem with her beeing a woman, they will have a problem if her takes are less than great, because they are aiming to nothing more that another championship.

Anyway, is a risky move by Popovich, and not for her beeing a woman.


If you've ever watched her on the court, you know that she is more than up to the pressure. Generally speaking, she sets her own bar very high.

As far as her takes being great - Pop used to give PJ Carlessimo a world of shit because he followed a bunch of stats that Pop didn't believe in. But he listened to and respected PJ. If her takes weren't already pretty good, she wouldn't have been hired. It really is that simple.

CaptainLate
08-05-2014, 07:08 PM
Spurs continue to beat the rest of the league to the punch. Foreign players can clearly compete in the NBA, and my guess is that Becky will a more than able assistant coach on the team. This will work and likely be copied throughout the league.

Hard to believe the pathetic WNBA has been financially propped up for (at least) 16 yrs. Modern man has become such a coward that they are mental eunuchs.

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howbouthemspurs
08-05-2014, 07:09 PM
She's gonna be the Hottest NBA coach ever!

Chinook
08-05-2014, 07:10 PM
I'm not going to dig back through SpursTalk archives, or old media articles. But there have been many comments made about Pop's lack of NBA experience, and how it might affect his credibility with actual NBA players. When they lost games, the Pop haters made comments to the effect of, "What do you expect from a guy who never played in the NBA himself?"


You'll notice that you don't hear those comments anymore. Winning does that.

And no, the original comment didn't say anything about "head" coaching. It said that she might not understand the crazy athletic prowess of NBA players, since she's never been there. It also mentioned Messina possibly having the same problem. Both of them are assistants, not head coaches.

I wasn't bashing the OP, just pointing out that the issue of no NBA experience was pointed toward Pop, and he did fine. A lot of ex-players have failed as coaches, so that's not really the test. Pop had the benefit of coaching under some great head coaches. Becky Hammon will be learning from one of the best. She may not turn out to be head coach material - but she has all of the qualifications she needs. This isn't a publicity stunt by Spurs' management. If they didn't see real potential, she would be a distraction. They don't do distractions. Especially with a very real possibility of a repeat Championship, and at the close of Tim and Manu's careers.

I already corrected myself in the post after the one you quoted.

PingPong
08-05-2014, 07:10 PM
Conservative are just obsolete people afraid of the reality. Too stupid, too weak, too bad, can't stand the world changes and advance.

Shastafarian
08-05-2014, 07:16 PM
Danny Green coming up on SportsCenter...

DMC
08-05-2014, 07:16 PM
“I very much look forward to the addition of Becky Hammon to our staff,”

Russ
08-05-2014, 07:23 PM
I'm not going to dig back through SpursTalk archives, or old media articles. But there have been many comments made about Pop's lack of NBA experience, and how it might affect his credibility with actual NBA players. When they lost games, the Pop haters made comments to the effect of, "What do you expect from a guy who never played in the NBA himself?"

Becky as Pop. :)

Becky staring daggers at the media after a tough loss.

Becky: "Is that a question?"

Reporter: "Uh, uh, uh . . ."

Becky: "You mean someone pays you to ask a question like that?"

Becky stomps off in contempt . . .

BatManu20
08-05-2014, 07:29 PM
The fact that she spent most of last season with the team is a big part of this. She's been around the players for an extended amount of time. They know here relatively well and from everything I've seen and read, they feel comfortable around her. She knows the game, she played at the highest level of her sport and is one of the best to ever do it. It's not like she's going to be Pop's tight hand, she's joining a team of assistants and she'll have to earn her respect like the rest of the. Good hire imo.

Trainwreck2100
08-05-2014, 07:40 PM
knicks got fined for hiring their coach before retirement, i mean there's precedent there

CaptainLate
08-05-2014, 07:49 PM
Even with the advancements in today's society, I'd say there's virtually no chance that a locker room full of men will take orders from a woman coach.

Advancements? :blah That's gotta be said by either a feminazi or a eunuch. :wakeup
They will not only take orders from a woman, since they've been conditioned to for decades, but they'll like it...and if they don't then Mr. Politically Correct, Pop, who is about as PC as they come, will get on their ass. Such a coward. :rolleyes

CaptainLate
08-05-2014, 07:56 PM
I firmly believe Udoka will succeed Pop.

No. My bet is they will bring Mike B. back, maybe sooner if he flames out in Atlanta. PATFO let him go so he could get some HC experience.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 08:36 PM
No. My bet is they will bring Mike B. back, maybe sooner if he flames out in Atlanta. PATFO let him go so he could get some HC experience.

Bud's gone, and he's not coming back. Same with Brown. I honestly don't think they were ever going to succeed Pop. That was Vaughn's job, but Orlando jumped way early. Now, it's Udoka.

littlecoyotecoin
08-05-2014, 08:44 PM
Sure, but Popovich was not hired by a championship team, on the other hand the bar for Becky is set really high. I donīt think the core of the spurs will have a problem with her beeing a woman, they will have a problem if her takes are less than great, because they are aiming to nothing more that another championship.

Anyway, is a risky move by Popovich, and not for her beeing a woman.

You're one of the same winners that was defending Manu's extremely reckless and risky behavior, but hiring Becky is too risky for you.

cjw
08-05-2014, 08:46 PM
Bud's gone, and he's not coming back. Same with Brown. I honestly don't think they were ever going to succeed Pop. That was Vaughn's job, but Orlando jumped way early. Now, it's Udoka.

Exactly. Bud did an amazing job last year with that Hawks team despite losing its best player. If Embiid is halfway decent, Philly is going to be a force to be reckoned with a few years from now and Brown will be in a great situation. Noel will be the best player from last year's draft, plus they have Saric and MCW on the cheap. Will be interesting to see what happens with that cap space.

I'm crossing my fingers for Vaughn in Orlando, but seems like the team has a lot of mismatched pieces.

DMX7
08-05-2014, 08:53 PM
Danny Green coming up on SportsCenter...

what did he say

ElNono
08-05-2014, 08:57 PM
Standing Ovation For Spurs:

If you’re looking for yet another reason to love the San Antonio Spurs, the team’s latest hire might just help your cause.

On Tuesday, the reigning NBA champions announced they had hired Becky Hammon as an assistant coach. Yes, you read that correctly. The six-time WNBA All-Star and beloved San Antonio Star will join the coaching staff after she retires at the end of the season.

I will now give you a moment to do your favorite celebratory dance or find the hand-clapping emoji on your phone.

http://espn.go.com/espnw/athletes-li...-ovation-spurs

Didn't know ESPN had a feminazi section, tbh

Chinook
08-05-2014, 08:58 PM
Didn't know ESPN had a feminazi section, tbh

You miss the SAS thread downstairs?

ElNono
08-05-2014, 08:59 PM
You miss the SAS thread downstairs?

did they get rid of it? didn't know

Shastafarian
08-05-2014, 09:11 PM
what did he say

Meh the usual stuff about respecting her as a basketball person and getting to know her a bit better last season. He was honest but not that open about the inner-workings of the organization. Nothing extraordinary.

ploto
08-05-2014, 09:20 PM
Parker is married assholes

Did not appear to stop him before.

superbigtime
08-05-2014, 09:21 PM
This is phenomenal. Spurs are such an awesome organization.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
08-05-2014, 09:39 PM
Is there any chance we can behave maturely and treat Becky as a human being who is extremely competent at basketball-related activities, rather than making focusing on her gender or sexual orientation? For some of us yes, for many I guess not... ugh. :rolleyes

BatManu20
08-05-2014, 09:41 PM
what did he say

He touched on what a fine piece of white ass she is, and how he can't wait to get "balls deep in dat ass." Overall pretty solid interview.

RD2191
08-05-2014, 09:42 PM
He touched on what a fine piece of white ass she is, and how he can't wait to get "balls deep in dat ass." Overall pretty solid interview.
:lmao

cd98
08-05-2014, 09:43 PM
We all know how much the Spurs CRAVE media attention, too.

You're a fucking idiot, go find a Cavs board and suck Lebron's dick already.

Actually, you're an idiot.

DMC
08-05-2014, 09:44 PM
Didn't know ESPN had a feminazi section, tbh
Feminista

baseline bum
08-05-2014, 09:47 PM
did they get rid of it? didn't know

SRS question El, if the Spurs repeat will the media take it wrong seeing 12 black men and a Mexican pouring champagne all over a white woman in the locker room tbh?

Mugen
08-05-2014, 09:47 PM
Is there any chance we can behave maturely and treat Becky as a human being who is extremely competent at basketball-related activities, rather than making focusing on her gender or sexual orientation? For some of us yes, for many I guess not... ugh. :rolleyes

Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.

SupremeGuy
08-05-2014, 09:49 PM
Saw this coming last year, tbh. Not surprised at all.

RD2191
08-05-2014, 09:51 PM
SRS question El, if the Spurs repeat will the media take it wrong seeing 12 black men and a Mexican pouring champagne all over a white woman in the locker room tbh?
:lol

Ron Swanson
08-05-2014, 09:52 PM
SRS question El, if the Spurs repeat will the media take it wrong seeing 12 black men and a Mexican pouring champagne all over a white woman in the locker room tbh?

Holy shit. :rollin

BillMc
08-05-2014, 10:16 PM
The stuff about her giving up her American citizenship to play for Russia in the Olympics (since she couldn't make the U.S. national team) is a bit dicey for me, especially as she has no Russian ethnicity that I am aware of, but it's her life and her decision. Other than that, I like her and welcome her to the Spurs.

houston spurs fan
08-05-2014, 10:17 PM
Hammon vs Messina to coach the Spurs first time Pop is ejected this season. I predict Hammon.

[QUOTE=Floyd Pacquiao;7542587]Lol wow what a pussie liberal move, fuck you pop and your faggy liberal agenda..[/QUOT

lol, you don't even understand what a liberal agenda means. Learn English first then comment on political and social matters. I am sorry if you attended special education, no offense intended. Seriously.

cd021
08-05-2014, 10:25 PM
Holy crap!
This is making World TV News on just about every station!
:flag:

I'm in Richmond Va. and it made local news. They devote 15 minutes to weather 5 minutes to crime like 90 seconds to sports. It got a 20 second mention.

When the Spurs won the title, they didn't bother showing highlights. They just said the Spurs won the championship over the Miami Heat. Surprising to see all the attention its getting.

DMX7
08-05-2014, 10:30 PM
He touched on what a fine piece of white ass she is, and how he can't wait to get "balls deep in dat ass." Overall pretty solid interview.

that's pretty graphic for an ESPN Disney interview.

Chinook
08-05-2014, 10:40 PM
Hammon vs Messina to coach the Spurs first time Pop is ejected this season. I predict Hammon.

Boylen. But Hammond will either coach the SL team next season or be Udoka's second.

DMX7
08-05-2014, 10:41 PM
Suck it, bitches. We are so fucking classy. This organization is taking shit to a whole new level. Go Becky! Gimme Dat, Becky, Gimme Dat! Go Spurs!!!

Chinook
08-05-2014, 10:43 PM
Anyone else notice how big of a ham Green is? He's becoming the new face of the franchise from a PR standpoint. I wonder if that is because no one else wants to do it or because he likes it so much.

DMX7
08-05-2014, 10:44 PM
Anyone else notice how big of a ham Green is? He's becoming the new face of the franchise from a PR standpoint. I wonder if that is because no one else wants to do it or because he likes it so much.

I think he likes it.

Big P
08-05-2014, 10:52 PM
I'm in Richmond Va. and it made local news. They devote 15 minutes to weather 5 minutes to crime like 90 seconds to sports. It got a 20 second mention.

When the Spurs won the title, they didn't bother showing highlights. They just said the Spurs won the championship over the Miami Heat. Surprising to see all the attention its getting.

It was on the CBS national nightly news.

pgardn
08-05-2014, 11:03 PM
Man, a lot of you sound like you've never been in a male locker room, tbh..

And I know you have never been in the Spurs locker room.

High School chest thumping is over dude, you need to move past the glory days of the stinky jock fungal jungle.
This is not a Latrell Sprewell Golden State choke room.
This is A Popovich team, not your HS see who has the biggest dick puberty squad.

That being said, the Spurs can pull this off like no other team. So I do believe some "men's" locker rooms are populated by insecure children.

What's the goal here. To Fkn win. What's the goal here. Repeat.

Robz4000
08-05-2014, 11:09 PM
OT, but Hammon is a confirmed lesbian right? She'd be the first openly lesbian coach in the NBA as well tbh.

HI-FI
08-05-2014, 11:10 PM
Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.
:lol


Anyone else notice how big of a ham Green is? He's becoming the new face of the franchise from a PR standpoint. I wonder if that is because no one else wants to do it or because he likes it so much.
i've noticed as well. he's more of a natural at it than most, with the exception of Bonner, Parker and Manu. Duncan and Kawhi don't like that shit. Plus it gives Green more exposure when he's overshadowed by Kawhi. I wouldn't be shocked if Green becomes a coach years down the road.

Robz4000
08-05-2014, 11:12 PM
Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.

Jesus Christ, Mugen with no regard for human life.

Birn
08-05-2014, 11:14 PM
OT, but Hammon is a confirmed lesbian right? She'd be the first openly lesbian coach in the NBA as well tbh.

Sorry to disappoint you but she's not a lesbian.

Robz4000
08-05-2014, 11:24 PM
Sorry to disappoint you but she's not a lesbian.

Even better

pgardn
08-05-2014, 11:25 PM
Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.

OK.

I want to use this line.
Permission bitte?

SpurPadre
08-05-2014, 11:28 PM
As a proud liberal, I'm not to proud to admit I have a problem with having a woman on the coaching staff, especially on a team with one of the horniest motherfuckers in the league in TP. Hopefully she's a full-time carpet muncher but that wouldn't stop TP from banging her lover at least. Seriously though, what can she possibly add to the table with the wnba being a vastly different game than professional men's basketball? I mean, even that pussy geno aureama(sp?) refuses to venture outside college women hoops despite a reputation as a basketball genius. He knows his role and his limitations and if he doesn't think he can coach female pros let alone men, how could I think Hammon is qualified for this role? Why would I think she can add to the toughness of this championship team? Oh well, in Pop I trust, I guess...except when it comes to Bonner.

DMX7
08-05-2014, 11:35 PM
As a proud liberal, I'm not to proud to admit I have a problem with having a woman on the coaching staff, especially on a team with one of the horniest motherfuckers in the league in TP. Hopefully she's a full-time carpet muncher but that wouldn't stop TP from banging her lover at least. Seriously though, what can she possibly add to the table with the wnba being a vastly different game than professional men's basketball? I mean, even that pussy geno aureama(sp?) refuses to venture outside college women hoops despite a reputation as a basketball genius. He knows his role and his limitations and if he doesn't think he can coach female pros let alone men, how could I think Hammon is qualified for this role? Why would I think she can add to the toughness of this championship team? Oh well, in Pop I trust, I guess...except when it comes to Bonner.

She is qualified. Her role will likely be nominal most of the time.

ElNono
08-05-2014, 11:47 PM
SRS question El, if the Spurs repeat will the media take it wrong seeing 12 black men and a Mexican pouring champagne all over a white woman in the locker room tbh?

I dunno... this got a pass...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m60v3m5hNq1rtxen9o1_500.gif

Can it really be worse? :lol

Malik Hairston
08-05-2014, 11:58 PM
And I know you have never been in the Spurs locker room.

High School chest thumping is over dude, you need to move past the glory days of the stinky jock fungal jungle.
This is not a Latrell Sprewell Golden State choke room.
This is A Popovich team, not your HS see who has the biggest dick puberty squad.

That being said, the Spurs can pull this off like no other team. So I do believe some "men's" locker rooms are populated by insecure children.

What's the goal here. To Fkn win. What's the goal here. Repeat.

She isn't the Head Coach of the Spurs, though..she isn't even the lead assistant..I imagine she won't even have a major role with the regular roster, either..

I was referring to her potential job as a Head Coach in the future..it wouldn't work with men, I don't see any argument otherwise, tbh..

wildchild
08-06-2014, 12:04 AM
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SpurPadre
08-06-2014, 12:09 AM
She is qualified. Her role will likely be nominal most of the time.

What makes her qualified? Has she been on a men's basketball coaching staff before this? Why should the greatest power forward of all time take her seriously whenever she tries to give him some advice? Fuck, why should kyle anderson take her seriously? What's to stop Bonner from telling her "shut up bitch and go to the kitchen to fix me a sandwich" Seriously, what does she know about the grind of an 82 game season? And what does she know about being a defending NBA Champion? This isn't some bullshit concern like a gay player playing for the team or a guy playing with AIDS. Look, if she were hired as an assistant to a men's ncaa team, I could see that and then she can get her feet wet but on an NBA Championship team? As to her role being nominal, I hope you're right.

ElNono
08-06-2014, 12:11 AM
She isn't the Head Coach of the Spurs, though..she isn't even the lead assistant..I imagine she won't even have a major role with the regular roster, either..

I was referring to her potential job as a Head Coach in the future..it wouldn't work with men, I don't see any argument otherwise, tbh..

She might just be preparing lunchboxes for the coaching staff, tbh... maybe do some laundry too.... we just don't know yet, tbh

wildchild
08-06-2014, 12:11 AM
Anyone else notice how big of a ham Green is? He's becoming the new face of the franchise from a PR standpoint. I wonder if that is because no one else wants to do it or because he likes it so much.

Whatever the reason...he's doing so well. :tu

Chinook
08-06-2014, 12:12 AM
What makes her qualified? Has she been on a men's basketball coaching staff before this? Why should the greatest power forward of all time take her seriously whenever she tries to give him some advice? Fuck, why should kyle anderson take her seriously? What's to stop Bonner from telling her "shut up bitch and go to the kitchen to fix me a sandwich" Seriously, what does she know about the grind of an 82 game season? And what does she know about being a defending NBA Champion? This isn't some bullshit concern like a gay player playing for the team or a guy playing with AIDS. Look, if she were hired as an assistant to a men's ncaa team, I could see that and then she can get her feet wet but on an NBA Championship team?

WNBA players tend to be highly skilled compared to their NBA counterparts. He's had a long pro career. There are plenty of things she can team young guards. Maybe she can help Green's ball-handling as well.

DMX7
08-06-2014, 12:13 AM
I dunno... this got a pass...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m60v3m5hNq1rtxen9o1_500.gif

Can it really be worse? :lol
'http://i.imgur.com/rLNtb.png

SpurPadre
08-06-2014, 12:13 AM
She might just be preparing lunchboxes for the coaching staff, tbh... maybe do some laundry too.... we just don't know yet, tbh
She's gonna be in the kitchen, barefoot and making Bonner sandwiches, tbh. She'll also be TP's personal fluffer during road trips, tbh.

DMX7
08-06-2014, 12:14 AM
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leo_d
08-06-2014, 12:15 AM
You're one of the same winners that was defending Manu's extremely reckless and risky behavior, but hiring Becky is too risky for you.

First, lol considering "reckless behavior" consulting 3 doctors, sitting during 40 days and at the first glimpse of pain backing down of the NT. And I never said Manu was making the right decision by trying to play the WC, I did say he wanted to play for himself and for his teammates, not for the fans.

Second, on hiring Becky, i think is risky because she doesnīt have NBA experience, not because she is a woman, but i never said it was "to risky" for me. Ultimately, her having a bad perfomance will have a bigger impact on herself than on the Spurs.

DMX7
08-06-2014, 12:16 AM
She's gonna be in the kitchen, barefoot and making Bonner sandwiches, tbh. She'll also be TP's personal fluffer during road trips, tbh.

Why you going full blown sexist? Coach Pop, the greatest coach who's first name isn't Phil, obviously endorses her.

ElNono
08-06-2014, 12:17 AM
Coaching is overrated anyways, tbh... even Boylen has a ring...

peacemaker885
08-06-2014, 12:18 AM
I too feel that Ime may someday be in the lead to coach the team but Pop has this thing for AJ. I won't be surprised if he comes back.

Chinook
08-06-2014, 12:21 AM
Coaching is overrated anyways, tbh... even Boylen has a ring...

I'm really hoping that dude blows away on the next strong breeze. I'll be mad disappointed if he takes over for Pop.

SpurPadre
08-06-2014, 12:23 AM
WNBA players tend to be highly skilled compared to their NBA counterparts. He's had a long pro career. There are plenty of things she can team young guards. Maybe she can help Green's ball-handling as well.

I think you're giving the wnba too much credit. Sure, they have to compensate for their lack of supreme athleticism by learning to be as highly skilled as possible but that skill is applied to women. What does she know about applying that skill against men? The NBA game is faster, more complex and longer than what she's been used to. The way she interprets reacting to plays, picks, and switches is a whole other animal against men. What does she understand about ball handling against pressure she's never faced in the wnba? Making quick decisions in a 24 second shot clock? We can go on and on and they are all legit questions.

SpurPadre
08-06-2014, 12:24 AM
Why you going full blown sexist? Coach Pop, the greatest coach who's first name isn't Phil, obviously endorses her.

Lol, I'm just joking. Look past that and you'll see I'm raising legit concerns.

ajh18
08-06-2014, 12:29 AM
I think you're giving the wnba too much credit. Sure, they have to compensate for their lack of supreme athleticism by learning to be as highly skilled as possible but that skill is applied to women. What does she know about applying that skill against men? The NBA game is faster, more complex and longer than what she's been used to. The way she interprets reacting to plays, picks, and switches is a whole other animal against men. What does she understand about ball handling against pressure she's never faced in the wnba? Making quick decisions in a 24 second shot clock? We can go on and on and they are all legit questions.

Plenty of the best coaches in history (including Pop I believe) have never played at the highest level of men's basketball either. You could make the exact same statements about them. And plenty of players who excelled in that environment make terrible coaches.

Is it helpful to have experienced it? Sure. But it's one of many, many factors that help make a successful coach, and definitely not an essential one.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
08-06-2014, 12:30 AM
Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.

No, but I do enjoy milk. :)

I'm just a hopeless idealist I guess - I wish we could all be better people. It's not that hard not to be fucktarded.

Ho hum.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
08-06-2014, 12:30 AM
Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.

No, but I do enjoy milk. :)

I'm just a hopeless idealist I guess - I wish we could all be better people. It's not that hard not to be fucktarded.

Ho hum.

SpurPadre
08-06-2014, 12:40 AM
Plenty of the best coaches in history (including Pop I believe) have never played at the highest level of men's basketball either. You could make the exact same statements about them. And plenty of players who excelled in that environment make terrible coaches.

Is it helpful to have experienced it? Sure. But it's one of many, many factors that help make a successful coach, and definitely not an essential one.

You're overlooking one key aspect, Pop had experience coaching men, starting in college and working his way up. He wasn't coaching a bunch of scrub dykes to suddenly land a pro men's job out of the blue. The same rings true for other male coaches in the league who obviously have an understanding of how MEN play the game and how it's vastly different from the women's game. Hey what's done is done and we have no choice but to accept the fact she's with the team but she's gonna really have to earn some respect and try to not get in the way of a title defense no matter how small her actual role may be.

gilmor
08-06-2014, 12:57 AM
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GSH
08-06-2014, 01:00 AM
One of the worst coaches of all time was Quinn Buckner. He was hired as Dallas' head coach, with no NBA assistant coaching experience, and the team finished 13-69. But he didn't catch this much shit, because he had NBA playing experience... and a penis.

Sidney Lowe is considered one of the worst NBA coaches of all time - his career record as a coach was 79-228. But he didn't catch this much shit, because he played 4 years in the NBA, where he averaged 17.7 minutes and 2.2 ppg ... and he has a penis. (And that's why he's STILL an assistant coach in the NBA.)

My personal nominee for worst coach/executive of all time is Isiah Thomas. I don't think anybody has ever been able to fuck up a franchise as effectively as him. He took over a Pacers team that had been to the Finals the year before, and led them to three straight first round losses - and that was much better than what he did to the Knicks. Thomas was imminently qualified to be a head coach, because he was a HOF'er... and he had a penis. (Past tense - he lost it in his sexual harassment suit.)

All of those guys looked much better on paper than Pop, I guess, because they had experience as NBA players? But hey... at least Pop has a penis.

Poor Becky Hammon. No NBA experience... and no penis. The only reason she was hired is that the Spurs know that they can't repeat this season, and they need a scapegoat. Plus the fact that Tony is married again, and they don't want him banging any of the other players' wives. They haven't released the terms of her contract, but I'm sure they're paying her in shoes and Midol.

What a bunch of shit some of the comments are. She's qualified because the Spurs' management evaluated her, and say she is. Nearly everybody here hated Ime Udoka, and thought he sucked as a player. Nobody questioned his qualifications when he was hired as an assistant. Because he averaged 18 minutes and 5.2 ppg in four lackluster seasons, plus three more seasons where he played a total of 32 games... and he has a penis.

ajh18
08-06-2014, 01:00 AM
You're overlooking one key aspect, Pop had experience coaching men, starting in college and working his way up. He wasn't coaching a bunch of scrub dykes to suddenly land a pro men's job out of the blue. The same rings true for other male coaches in the league who obviously have an understanding of how MEN play the game and how it's vastly different from the women's game. Hey what's done is done and we have no choice but to accept the fact she's with the team but she's gonna really have to earn some respect and try to not get in the way of a title defense no matter how small her actual role may be.

I think you can definitely make an argument that working with professional women is closer to the NBA than working with amateur or D-3 college men.

cjw
08-06-2014, 01:01 AM
I think you're giving the wnba too much credit.

Do you doubt that Geno Auriema would be a top coach in men's college basketball if he didn't leave his cushy position? Hammon isn't just any old WNBA player like DFish was to the NBA. She excelled at many aspects of the game - saw floor very well - and has been around the team for a year plus in the vicinity for many more. I trust Pop here. This is no different than any other first time coach getting a shot, and they have had to dig deep considering all of the assistants who've been snagged by crappy East teams.

Obstructed_View
08-06-2014, 01:35 AM
Question I haven't seen brought up amidst all these well-thought-out takes: Was there an assistant spot open? I thought Messina took Kiwi's spot.

GSH
08-06-2014, 01:50 AM
Question I haven't seen brought up amidst all these well-thought-out takes: Was there an assistant spot open? I thought Messina took Kiwi's spot.

I wondered the same thing.

But your comment reminded me of something else. All these people saying that Becky Hammond is not qualified because she has no experience with the NBA, etc. I wonder how many of them know who Chad Forcier is?

For all you brain surgeons who think NBA experience, or at least playing men's basketball, is a prerequisite for being an NBA assistant coach - Chad Forcier is an assistant with the Spurs. He never played NBA basketball. He also never played college basketball. Imagine that. I wonder why all of you weren't screaming about him being unqualified, when he was hired? He had some experience as an NBA assistant, before coming here. But he originally got hired as an NBA assistant without even playing college ball. But hey... he has a penis.

And, ultimately, that's what makes him qualified, isn't it?

ElNono
08-06-2014, 02:05 AM
Question I haven't seen brought up amidst all these well-thought-out takes: Was there an assistant spot open? I thought Messina took Kiwi's spot.

http://www.marycatherinestarr.com/uploads/6/8/0/6/680696/1302091032.jpg

"Hi Sean Marks. I'm gonna need you to move that desk all the way back to the wall"

Sean Marks: "That's my red stapler!"

DocDoc
08-06-2014, 04:51 AM
I think you're giving the wnba too much credit. Sure, they have to compensate for their lack of supreme athleticism by learning to be as highly skilled as possible but that skill is applied to women. What does she know about applying that skill against men? The NBA game is faster, more complex and longer than what she's been used to. The way she interprets reacting to plays, picks, and switches is a whole other animal against men. What does she understand about ball handling against pressure she's never faced in the wnba? Making quick decisions in a 24 second shot clock? We can go on and on and they are all legit questions.

This is just stupid. By this reasoning, you can only coach something if you performed at that level? So, Pop, having never been an elite NBA player, can't coach elite NBA players? I think the evidence is that he can and Becky should have no issues. By this reasoning, no one should have been able to coach Kobe or Jordan.

Coaching isn't playing.

There is this thing called observing and thinking, which you obviously are unaware of....

spursparker9
08-06-2014, 05:00 AM
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:lol

Look like Tony spent the most time with her compared to others

Obstructed_View
08-06-2014, 05:22 AM
I wondered the same thing.

But your comment reminded me of something else. All these people saying that Becky Hammond is not qualified because she has no experience with the NBA, etc. I wonder how many of them know who Chad Forcier is?

For all you brain surgeons who think NBA experience, or at least playing men's basketball, is a prerequisite for being an NBA assistant coach - Chad Forcier is an assistant with the Spurs. He never played NBA basketball. He also never played college basketball. Imagine that. I wonder why all of you weren't screaming about him being unqualified, when he was hired? He had some experience as an NBA assistant, before coming here. But he originally got hired as an NBA assistant without even playing college ball. But hey... he has a penis.

And, ultimately, that's what makes him qualified, isn't it?

The only part of Hammon's hiring that worries me has nothing to do with her gender. The examples of a player's ability or success not translating to their abilities as a coach are a bit of a relief.

I read an article on ESPN about how basketball smart she is, how she knows exactly where to go, she can scout everyone on the floor and can compute how to get the best shot. I do not watch a ton of WNBA ball, but I did watch her from time to time, and smart shot selection was never something I equated with her game. Very Kobe-like, she's a chucker as a player. Regardless of the outcome she always manages to get her numbers. For all her stats she certainly never seemed to bring wins or make anyone better. She's got some stats, like assists, because she's been in the league a long time. I imagine she's probably higher on the career list in turnovers than she is in assists.

Not that any of that should matter. One would think she's been vetted by the team, and she's there because she's got the ability to do well. I hope she has a ring this time next year.

will_spurs
08-06-2014, 05:31 AM
She's an assistant coach, not a head coach nor a player. She's there mostly to learn. She's got Pop's stamp of approval and that's enough for me.

Re: the other asst coaches, I don't like Boylen. This guy thinks Ayres is the 2nd coming of Tim Duncan and forgets one of his best players on the bench. I really hope he goes.

I'm not convinced Udoka is the next in line. I'd say he's just being trained as a future head coach as a courtesy for being part of the Spurs family. I really think Coach Bud is going to come back to San Antonio when Pop leaves.

benefactor
08-06-2014, 06:02 AM
SRS question El, if the Spurs repeat will the media take it wrong seeing 12 black men and a Mexican pouring champagne all over a white woman in the locker room tbh?

Ruff, you seem like the type of guy that drinks a big glass of milk every morning tbh.
:lol...thread victory.

smaka
08-06-2014, 06:11 AM
The stuff about her giving up her American citizenship to play for Russia in the Olympics (since she couldn't make the U.S. national team) is a bit dicey for me, especially as she has no Russian ethnicity that I am aware of, but it's her life and her decision. Other than that, I like her and welcome her to the Spurs.
Actually it wasn't just for the Olympics. In Russia where she played during WNBA offseason, they have a rule of max. 2 Americans on the team's roster. So by having non American passport, she became more valuable to her team because it gave them chance to have 3 Americans on board. Not the only one who did that, see Bird, Nolan...

smaka
08-06-2014, 06:17 AM
OT, but Hammon is a confirmed lesbian right? She'd be the first openly lesbian coach in the NBA as well tbh.
She is yeah, never really said it, but everyone knows it. Sorry guys. :lol


As a proud liberal, I'm not to proud to admit I have a problem with having a woman on the coaching staff, especially on a team with one of the horniest motherfuckers in the league in TP. Hopefully she's a full-time carpet muncher but that wouldn't stop TP from banging her lover at least. Seriously though, what can she possibly add to the table with the wnba being a vastly different game than professional men's basketball? I mean, even that pussy geno aureama(sp?) refuses to venture outside college women hoops despite a reputation as a basketball genius. He knows his role and his limitations and if he doesn't think he can coach female pros let alone men, how could I think Hammon is qualified for this role? Why would I think she can add to the toughness of this championship team? Oh well, in Pop I trust, I guess...except when it comes to Bonner.
Geno Auriemma is also coaching US national team, so your statement kind of isn't right.

spursparker9
08-06-2014, 06:26 AM
She is yeah, never really said it, but everyone knows it. Sorry guys. :lol




Somewhere, Tony is saying "Challenge Accepted !"

smaka
08-06-2014, 06:28 AM
And wow SpurPadre, you really have problems with her being a woman, huh? So she is gonna suck because she lacks experience with men's basketball? Tell me something, why isn't Kidd one of the best coaches already, knowing the experience he has in the NBA? Things don't work that way, man. Becky basically played two seasons a year, summer in WNBA and the rest of the year in Euroleague and Russia. Has many experience, knows the system since she was there last season... She deserves a chance, especially if Pop thinks so.
As it was said thousand times, she wasn't hired because of her gender, but knowledge. And I trust the Spurs organisation with that.

jag
08-06-2014, 06:44 AM
OT, but Hammon is a confirmed lesbian right? She'd be the first openly lesbian coach in the NBA as well tbh.

She's played in the WNBA for like 15 years. I'm not sure how much more confirmation you need.

I'm pretty sure she's Tony's #1 wingman when they go clam hunting together.

exstatic
08-06-2014, 06:46 AM
Lol, I'm just joking. Look past that and you'll see I'm raising legit concerns.

"I'm just joking": the refuge of the lame who get called out.

exstatic
08-06-2014, 06:49 AM
I think you're giving the wnba too much credit. Sure, they have to compensate for their lack of supreme athleticism by learning to be as highly skilled as possible but that skill is applied to women. What does she know about applying that skill against men? The NBA game is faster, more complex and longer than what she's been used to. The way she interprets reacting to plays, picks, and switches is a whole other animal against men. What does she understand about ball handling against pressure she's never faced in the wnba? Making quick decisions in a 24 second shot clock? We can go on and on and they are all legit questions.
You act like she's having to play against them.

:lol:rollin:lol:rollin

Idiot. She's probably played and succeeded against better athletes than Pop a hundred years ago at the AF academy.

Obstructed_View
08-06-2014, 06:54 AM
Magic - great player, terrible NBA coach
Popovich - never played in the NBA, great NBA coach
Gar Heard - great player, terrible NBA coach
Red Auerbach - never played in the NBA, great NBA coach
Isiah - great player, terrible NBA coach
Chuck Daly - never played in the NBA, great NBA coach

littlecoyotecoin
08-06-2014, 07:01 AM
First, lol considering "reckless behavior" consulting 3 doctors, sitting during 40 days and at the first glimpse of pain backing down of the NT. And I never said Manu was making the right decision by trying to play the WC, I did say he wanted to play for himself and for his teammates, not for the fans.

Second, on hiring Becky, i think is risky because she doesnīt have NBA experience, not because she is a woman, but i never said it was "to risky" for me. Ultimately, her having a bad perfomance will have a bigger impact on herself than on the Spurs.

He didn't consult 3 doctors. The Spurs doctors were one of the three you're counting, who gave him the more accurate and less reckless and risky advice, and he immediately dismissed it and went searching for a doctor that wouldn't give that opinion so that he could "cut" his healing time. Now that his gambit failed, and he has aggravated his his injury, you aren't so adamant about his right to play and practice with the NT. Typical.

And, not so risky for The Spurs, after all, with regard to Becky. Just risky for herself, ok.

I am quite happy with your revisionist history and modified opinions.

littlecoyotecoin
08-06-2014, 07:08 AM
She's played in the WNBA for like 15 years. I'm not sure how much more confirmation you need.

I'm pretty sure she's Tony's #1 wingman when they go clam hunting together.

I was going to make a comment about The Spurs possibly filling TWO quota boxes when they hired her. Then I thought better of it for not speculating and being a little tacky. Now I can just sit back with a feeling of superiority and read your post, and think what a horrible person you are for saying such a thing.

FireMicoHalili
08-06-2014, 07:09 AM
PSA

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”― Mark Twain (http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1244.Mark_Twain)

MB20
08-06-2014, 07:46 AM
Hammon del medio

leo_d
08-06-2014, 08:19 AM
I donīt know if this post is directed to me, but as I brought up the "nba experience" I will asume it is


One of the worst coaches of all time was Quinn Buckner. He was hired as Dallas' head coach, with no NBA assistant coaching experience, and the team finished 13-69. But he didn't catch this much shit, because he had NBA playing experience... and a penis.

Sidney Lowe is considered one of the worst NBA coaches of all time - his career record as a coach was 79-228. But he didn't catch this much shit, because he played 4 years in the NBA, where he averaged 17.7 minutes and 2.2 ppg ... and he has a penis. (And that's why he's STILL an assistant coach in the NBA.)

My personal nominee for worst coach/executive of all time is Isiah Thomas. I don't think anybody has ever been able to fuck up a franchise as effectively as him. He took over a Pacers team that had been to the Finals the year before, and led them to three straight first round losses - and that was much better than what he did to the Knicks. Thomas was imminently qualified to be a head coach, because he was a HOF'er... and he had a penis. (Past tense - he lost it in his sexual harassment suit.)

All of those guys looked much better on paper than Pop, I guess, because they had experience as NBA players? But hey... at least Pop has a penis.

I donīt think that picking the guys that look better on paper is a bad strategy, sometimes it can go wrong, but sure as hell will give you more results than the "picking the guys that look bad on paper" strategy.


Poor Becky Hammon. No NBA experience... and no penis. The only reason she was hired is that the Spurs know that they can't repeat this season, and they need a scapegoat. Plus the fact that Tony is married again, and they don't want him banging any of the other players' wives. They haven't released the terms of her contract, but I'm sure they're paying her in shoes and Midol.

What a bunch of shit some of the comments are. She's qualified because the Spurs' management evaluated her, and say she is. Nearly everybody here hated Ime Udoka, and thought he sucked as a player. Nobody questioned his qualifications when he was hired as an assistant. Because he averaged 18 minutes and 5.2 ppg in four lackluster seasons, plus three more seasons where he played a total of 32 games... and he has a penis.

Iīve seen other comments you made and you strike as a fair poster, but for some reason you are trying hard to make this a sexist thing. I maintain my position, hiring Becky can go right or wrong (mostly for her) but if it goes wrong, it will be because her experience in the WNBA didnīt translate on to the NBA, not because she is a woman.

When you say she is automatically qualified because the Spurs say she is, you give them a "they can do not wrong" aura, so if by any chance she canīt deliver, youīll be "she was cappable so clearly they let her go her only because she is a woman and the players didnīt respect her".

Well, I donīt agree with that.

exstatic
08-06-2014, 08:24 AM
I donīt know if this post is directed to me, but as I brought up the "nba experience" I will asume it is



I donīt think that picking the guys that look better on paper is a bad strategy, sometimes it can go wrong, but sure as hell will give you more results than the "picking the guys that look bad on paper" strategy.



Iīve seen other comments you made and you strike as a fair poster, but for some reason you are trying hard to make this a sexist thing. I maintain my position, hiring Becky can go right or wrong (mostly for her) but if it goes wrong, it will be because her experience in the NBA didnīt translate on to the NBA, not because she is a woman.

When you say she is automatically qualified because the Spurs say she is, you give them a "they can do not wrong" aura, so if by any chance she canīt deliver, youīll be "she was cappable so clearly they let her go her only because she is a woman and the players didnīt respect her".

Well, I donīt agree with that.
If you look at the track record of teams stealing our assistants, you might have to re-evaluate your position. Pop DOES know how to pick and train assistants, and the rest of the league knows it and wants them.