Russian propaganda

[xeromass]

Just a bit of a taster what we're dealing with.

Yesterday what seems to be an annual bikers meet took place in Sevastopol, Crimea. Whole thing was broadcast live on Russia-2 channel.

Master of ceremonies was Russia's 1st biker. This dude:

http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics4/Putin-Biker-General.jpg


link to video:

http://www.vesti.ru/broadcasts.html?id=35731

Play-by-Play (I FF through so things might be missed):

9:00 nazi ninjas dancing in shape of swastika
12:53 bleeding Ukraine
13:00 nazi ninjas throwing rocks at Berkut (frmr. Ukrainian special police)
13:16 scared boy in audience close-up
14:00 crying woman in audience close-up
20:30 brave separatists fighting nazi Ukrainians
20:40 Ukrainian flags being replaced with DPR&LPR flags
26:40 dollar sign with eye of providence on stage
27:00 dollar sign covered with Russian naval ensign
37:00 Smells like teen spirit cover...WTF???
40:30 now we got ourselves some Rammstein...WTF no.2
52:30 Metalllica is playing...it seems we're through with overt propaganda
58:00 navy choir takes the stage
1:04:00 patriotic ending with anthem & red star

[m>s]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-mh17-crash-ukrainian-military-jet-was-flying-close-to-passenger-plane-before-it-was-shot-down-says-russian-officer-9619143.html

[ChumpDumper]

lol det hat.

[pgardn]

lol det hat.

Old man peacock tail.

Very functional, except in most situations experienced on Earth.

[boutons_deux]

politicians and Christian preachers never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the masses, even true outside of USA.

[pgardn]

politicians and Christian preachers never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the masses, even true outside of USA.

Yeah, and you can say that here. You could go right up to Obama and hold up a sign with all your grievances... Wait, no you could not.

Boots, do you think someone on this board will report you to the govt. because they don't like your politics? Random question...

[DarrinS]

lol det hat.

First thing I noticed

[pgardn]

politicians and Christian preachers never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the masses, even true outside of USA.

This country has one of the most critical, cynical, paranoid public of anywhere in the world. We got people thinking you are gullible and fooled by the Democratic Party as well as those that think you are a dolt because you don't buy 9/11 being planned by the US government.

[xeromass]

Another take by euromaidanpress, screenshots&all:

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/10/watch-this-performance-broadcast-nationally-in-russia-invokes-nazism-support-for-terrorism-and-the-restoration-of-the-soviet-union/

[pgardn]

Another take by euromaidanpress, screenshots&all:

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/10/watch-this-performance-broadcast-nationally-in-russia-invokes-nazism-support-for-terrorism-and-the-restoration-of-the-soviet-union/

They just blew their National Budget on that production.

When the goods stop flowing, they are going to crawl.
Putin with his badass biker dude is hilarious though.

[pgardn]

Ukraine letting paramilitary groups do their street fighting is not a good thing however.
Putin could get pissed and invade, then both countries are going to suffer economically.
Another stupid conflict.

EU and US better make it clear to Ukraine they can't let roving bands take parts of cities.

[boutons_deux]

This country has one of the most critical, cynical, paranoid public

:lol :lol :lol

http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx


:lol :lol :lol

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/07/22/3462690/us-number-one-climate-denial/ (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/07/22/3462690/us-number-one-climate-denial/)

but paranoid? yes!

"1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others"

The Negro, the guvmint, the revenooers, Satan, socialists, Reid/Pelosi, LGBT, atheists, etc are ALL persecuting me, taking my Freedom! We marans MUST BE FREE!

[pgardn]

:lol :lol :lol

http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx


:lol :lol :lol

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/07/22/3462690/us-number-one-climate-denial/ (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/07/22/3462690/us-number-one-climate-denial/)

but paranoid? yes!

"1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others"

The Negro, the guvmint, the revenooers, Satan, socialists, Reid/Pelosi, LGBT, atheists, etc are ALL persecuting me, taking my Freedom! We marans MUST BE FREE!



You are choosing a Gallup poll on evolution to illustrate critical of a politicians and politics?
You see boots, this is why I can't trust you.

[boutons_deux]

You are choosing a Gallup poll on evolution to illustrate critical of a politicians and politics?
You see boots, this is why I can't trust you.

butthurt pgardn

you made a statement that Americans were World Champion critical thinkers, but polls show a huge percentage of Americans AREN'T critical thinkers, but believers in myths, fairy tales, and esp believers in bullshit spouted by politicians.

[pgardn]

butthurt pgardn

you made a statement that Americans were World Champion critical thinkers, but polls show a huge percentage of Americans AREN'T critical thinkers, but believers in myths, fairy tales, and esp believers in bullshit spouted by politicians.

I wrote critical, cynical, paranoid in a discussion on politics and world affairs.
You extend that to evolution, a subject Americans wrangle about because of its implications of death being a finality?
Why does Obama believe in God?

And you the Democrat drinking the sludge of that party and then posting the above...
You have to feel like spanking yourself.

[boutons_deux]

I wrote critical, cynical, paranoid in a discussion on politics and world affairs.
You extend that to evolution, a subject Americans wrangle about because of its implications of death being a finality?
Why does Obama believe in God?

And you the Democrat drinking the sludge of that party and then posting the above...
You have to feel like spanking yourself.

butthurt pgarden, lost in his own drivel, and hilariously weak shit

so you compartmentalize "critical thinking" as not applying to believers in religious bullshit, but claim that Americans are critical, cynical thinkers in the political, science, social compartments? :lol

My guess is there is a huge overlap in the religious crowd who deny evolution and reject climate science, facts with the crowd that believes in/votes/watches Repug/Fox.

[pgardn]

butthurt pgarden, lost in his own drivel, and hilariously weak shit

so you compartmentalize "critical thinking" as not applying to believers in religious bullshit, but claim that Americans are critical, cynical thinkers in the political, science, social compartments? :lol

My guess is there is a huge overlap in the religious crowd who deny evolution and reject climate science, facts with the crowd that believes in/votes/watches Repug/Fox.

Hell yes I do. Some of the brightest people I know can't accept evolution. Some of the most rational people otherwise.

Does the fact that Obama believes in God make you think less of him?


Boots. How could I possibly dislike you if I actually knew you? I actually believe you care about people. But you have a penchant for propaganda. I want you to post about Eric Holder and Charles Rangle. Man I'm getting all sappy on Boo-tang, must be Sunday.

[xeromass]

New example:

http://www.vox.com/2014/12/1/7313025/russia-gay-propaganda

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3u1VoZCcAAL3N7.png


Russia's second-largest TV channel, the state-owned Rossiya-1, has aired a special news report alleging that Western society is indoctrinating its children with homosexual propaganda. While this sort of accusation is nothing new from Russian state media, Rossiya-1 presents, as its proof, a video that it says shows an American father covering his young son's bedroom wall with gay pornography as a way to force the child into homosexuality, purportedly a widespread Western practice.

In fact, however, the video that Rossiya-1 shows is not documentary news footage, but a satirical and obviously fake viral video taken from the American social media site, 4chan.

The Rossiya-1 program, which aired on Friday, November 28, (you can watch the full 90-minute program here) reports that American homosexual propaganda is now perverting Europe as well, destroying traditional gender roles and weakening European society.

The segment presents, as evidence, a Western grade-school biology textbook, which includes diagrams of human reproductive organs. As foreboding music plays in the background, the Rossiya-1 news anchor states that Western children are "forced to learn everything there is to know about sexual intercourse and are told to pick which gender they would like to be," according to a translation by Julia Davis.

The segment then cuts to a video that it says shows a typical American family at home. A father leads his young son into his bedroom to show him a surprise: he has covered the child's bedroom wall with explicit gay pornography. The child shouts in joy at the present. (This appears 30 seconds in to the above clip.) The Rossiya-1 host, disgusted at the display, sternly asks, "Is it appropriate for a child's bedroom to look this way?"

The video that Rossiya-1 presents as real is of course an obvious fake, created as a joke by the users of 4chan. The video is a satirical re-cut of this much-mocked commercial by Fathead, a sports paraphernalia company. The original shows a father showing his son that he has covered his bedroom wall with a giant photo of a monster truck. 4chan users changed out the monster truck with gay pornography as a way to mock the commercial. Rossiya-1 either mistook or willfully misrepresented the satire as documentary news footage.

Russian state media has increasingly smothered Russians with the idea that Americans and Western Europeans are sexual perverts and weaklings out to destroy families. In 2012, when Vladimir Putin's government passed a law forbidding American families from adopting Russian orphans, one of the justifications was that American parents were sexually exploiting the children or forcing them into homosexuality. The Rossiya-1 host refers to this as America's "gender fascism."

This is all meant to contrast with Russia, and to show the virtue of Putin's state. At one point in the Rossiya-1 segment, the video cuts away from the gay Western depravity to a Russian citizen who "tearfully rejoices that only Russia has real democracy," according to Davis.


There's genius in displaying westerners as gay pedos. Everybody hates pedos and everybody knows gays are easily beatable pussies. They also managed to put a fascist label on whole thing. Kudos, Russia. Trifecta.

[xeromass]

Does the fact that Obama believes in God make you think less of him?


According to ramblings of Marxist philosopher Obama is an atheist. It starts around 7th minute. Turn on subs if they don't show up.

I tend to believe him. Obama doesn't strike me as extremely pious.



http://youtu.be/GnFk1g2P_3M?t=7m2s

[Infinite_limit]

New example:

http://www.vox.com/2014/12/1/7313025/russia-gay-propaganda

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3u1VoZCcAAL3N7.png




There's genius in displaying westerners as gay pedos. Everybody hates pedos and everybody knows gays are easily beatable pussies. They also managed to put a fascist label on whole thing. Kudos, Russia. Trifecta.
http://i905.photobucket.com/albums/ac255/kegstermd/1415996533404_wps_45_Spc_Sabryna_Schlagetter_l_zps 59322855.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hell yes I do. Some of the brightest people I know can't accept evolution. Some of the most rational people otherwise.

Does the fact that Obama believes in God make you think less of him?


Boots. How could I possibly dislike you if I actually knew you? I actually believe you care about people. But you have a penchant for propaganda. I want you to post about Eric Holder and Charles Rangle. Man I'm getting all sappy on Boo-tang, must be Sunday.

:lol I have met some of the smartest people around. A good friend of mine is a physicist at Cambridge, I know economists for the WTC, a federal appellate judge, and a UVA law professor to go a long with a whole slew of engineers in imaging technology and other assorted fields.

They are the smartest people I know and not a single one of them 'cannot accept evolution.' Some are skeptical of certain claims but the carte blanche dismissal isn't there. Quite frankly, in my experience, the more knowledge means the less likely they are to allow dogma and faith based reasoning to cloud their judgment.

For myself, believing in God is a red herring. It's about making policy decisions with scripture or similar dogma as basis. The rest of it is just round and round unprovable nonsense for pick and choose christians.

[angrydude]

Only difference between eastern and western propaganda is the west is better at it (more subtle)

Every time you watch a football game in this country and they are "honoring the troops" (basically, every game) you are swimming in a pool of it