Evolution...?

[spurraider21]

boo. thread was supposed to die at 150 pages :lol

[Avante]

boo. thread was supposed to die at 150 pages :lol

Stop trying to compare me/my threads to mortal man, ok?

Sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

here I sit
mouse in hand
staring at my 151 page thread
yep, I'm the man

Ha~~~~~~~~~~

I think this calls for a celebration:lobt2:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M

[Avante]

Really like this band.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAi306iIIqI

Nice flow....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhEH0IKS-c8

The great Ry Cooder on guitar.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTx860Viz_E

[boutons_deux]

Humans did not come from fish, only a total retard could buy that bullshit.

straw man, nobody said they did.

your brains are quantum entangled with a pile of dogshit.

[Avante]

straw man, nobody said they did.

your brains are quantum entangled with a pile of dogshit.

I got news for ya idiot, there is a belief we did evolve from fish. Where you been moron?

[RandomGuy]

Wondering where Hal is.

[RandomGuy]

Maybe he will continue it later.

[RandomGuy]

.... after say one more page of stuff.

[RandomGuy]

Humans did not come from fish, only a total retard could buy that bullshit.


Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule

Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.

Description of Appeal to Ridicule

The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:

X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"

Actually what total retards do, is repeat the same debunked, flawed arguments repeatedly, even after having been shown they are wrong.

"Retards" also tend not to be very curious, and remain blissfully ignorant their entire lives.

Are you a retard? or have you bothered finally reading about what evolution is, and the evidence for it?

[Avante]

Actually what total retards do, is repeat the same debunked, flawed arguments repeatedly, even after having been shown they are wrong.

"Retards" also tend not to be very curious, and remain blissfully ignorant their entire lives.

Are you a retard? or have you bothered finally reading about what evolution is, and the evidence for it?


A true retard is a guy who really thinks someone/anyone wouldn't understand what evolution is. That's a retard little fella.

Are you you really this hard up to bother the grown ups?

Talk about complex, wow!!!!!!:rolleyes
evolution








noun evo·lu·tion \ˌe-və-ˈlü-shən, ˌē-və-\
biology : a theory that the differences between modern plants and animals are because of changes that happened by a natural process over a very long time
: the process by which changes in plants and animals happen over time
: a process of slow change and development

[spurraider21]

It's more than just a dictionary definition. You've demonstrated a pretty strong misunderstanding about it throughout your time here

[RandomGuy]

A true retard is a guy who really thinks someone/anyone wouldn't understand what evolution is. That's a retard little fella.

Are you you really this hard up to bother the grown ups?

Talk about complex, wow!!!!!!:rolleyes
evolution








noun evo·lu·tion \ˌe-və-ˈlü-shən, ˌē-və-\
biology : a theory that the differences between modern plants and animals are because of changes that happened by a natural process over a very long time
: the process by which changes in plants and animals happen over time
: a process of slow change and development


You haven't read about any of the evidence supporting evolution then? I posted a bunch of it for you.

Your statements indicate you really don't understand the theory, outside of being able to paste dictionary definitions.

[RandomGuy]

It's more than just a dictionary definition. You've demonstrated a pretty strong misunderstanding about it throughout your time here

This.

[RandomGuy]

A true retard is a guy who really thinks someone/anyone wouldn't understand what evolution is. That's a retard little fella.

Are you you really this hard up to bother the grown ups?

Talk about complex, wow!!!!!!:rolleyes
evolution








noun evo·lu·tion \ˌe-və-ˈlü-shən, ˌē-və-\
biology : a theory that the differences between modern plants and animals are because of changes that happened by a natural process over a very long time
: the process by which changes in plants and animals happen over time
: a process of slow change and development


Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.

[Blake]

I got news for ya idiot, there is a belief we did evolve from fish. Where you been moron?

what's neat is that you're too retarded to understand the concept of strawman.

[Avante]

It's more than just a dictionary definition. You've demonstrated a pretty strong misunderstanding about it throughout your time here

How could anyone not understand what the word evolve means? We evolve from babies to grown ups.What try to make it out to be some big complex situation? A tadpole does what...?

[RandomGuy]

what's neat is that you're too retarded to understand the concept of strawman.

The first amphibians came from creatures that lived in the sea, and that we would describe as fish, and all land animals came out of various lineages of such creatures. It really isn't too inaccurate, to be fair, he is just skipping a lot in the middle, to make it sound, to him, more outlandish. (appeal to ridicule fallacy)

http://www.ecologyasia.com/images-ghi/gt-blue-spot-mudskipper_0245a.jpg

[Avante]

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.

Why act like an idiot?

[Avante]

The first amphibians came from creatures that lived in the sea, and that we would describe as fish, and all land animals came out of various lineages of such creatures. It really isn't too inaccurate, to be fair, he is just skipping a lot in the middle, to make it sound, to him, more outlandish. (appeal to ridicule fallacy)

http://www.ecologyasia.com/images-ghi/gt-blue-spot-mudskipper_0245a.jpg

So we did evolve from fish, huh?

[RandomGuy]

How could anyone not understand what the word evolve means? We evolve from babies to grown ups.What try to make it out to be some big complex situation? A tadpole does what...?

Adults to not "evolve" from babies in the scientific sense of the word.

[RandomGuy]

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.


Why act like an idiot?

Why indeed.

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.

[spurraider21]

How could anyone not understand what the word evolve means? We evolve from babies to grown ups.What try to make it out to be some big complex situation? A tadpole does what...?
For one thing, you acted like humans and insects had common land ancestors. For another thing, you kept posting those stupid videos that were so obviously flawed that nobody with common sense and a decent understanding of evolution would be caught watching them

[Avante]

For one thing, you acted like humans and insects had common land ancestors. For another thing, you kept posting those stupid videos that were so obviously flawed that nobody with common sense and a decent understanding of evolution would be caught watching them

What's to understand? All living creatures evolved from a lower life form.

[Avante]

Adults to not "evolve" from babies in the scientific sense of the word.

Sure they do.

[RandomGuy]

So we did evolve from fish, huh?

Fish were some of the first vertebrates. All land animals, including us, evolved from them, yes.

A larger picture of how we branched out, including how long ago is here:
http://www.geog.ox.ac.uk/staff/rgrenyer-supertree.pdf

A greatly simplified and narrow version of the phylogenic tree can be seen here:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/images/evo/vert_tree.gif

[RandomGuy]

What's to understand? All living creatures evolved from a lower life form.

Wrong.

[RandomGuy]

What's to understand? All living creatures evolved from a [previous] life form.

Right.

(edit)

Be happy to explain the difference, if you wish.

[RandomGuy]

Sure [adults evolve from babies].

No, they don't. Word mean different things to different people. The scientific usage of the word "evolution" would not include the maturation of an individual within a species.

[Avante]

Right.

(edit)

Be happy to explain the difference, if you wish.

So all those times I've read.....

he Theory of EvolutionIt is important to understand what the theory of evolution says about the origin of man since so many people believe this theory. Evolution is commonly taught in public schools and in colleges, and is strongly promoted by the media.
Evolution teaches that man has gradually evolved from lower animals (such as apelike creatures) in a slowly changing process that has taken millions of years. Thus, the evolutionists would say that man is nothing more than a highly intelligent animal. They teach that man is very similar to the gorilla, except that man is smarter!

[RandomGuy]

So all those times I've read.....

he Theory of EvolutionIt is important to understand what the theory of evolution says about the origin of man since so many people believe this theory. Evolution is commonly taught in public schools and in colleges, and is strongly promoted by the media.
Evolution teaches that man has gradually evolved from lower animals (such as apelike creatures) in a slowly changing process that has taken millions of years. Thus, the evolutionists would say that man is nothing more than a highly intelligent animal. They teach that man is very similar to the gorilla, except that man is smarter!

Creationists don't tend to understand the theory of evolution either.

Most of the time it is simply ignorance, but they do get caught in outright lies quite often.

If someone lies to you about something, should you trust what they say about it?

[Avante]

No, they don't. Word mean different things to different people. The scientific usage of the word "evolution" would not include the maturation of an individual within a species.

I'm not talking about evolution I'm talking about evolving. A young thug....evolves...into a fine young man. Their terrible marriage....evolved...into a happy one.

Getting it?

[Avante]

Creationists don't tend to understand the theory of evolution either.

Most of the time it is simply ignorance, but they do get caught in outright lies quite often.

If someone lies to you about something, should you trust what they say about it?

So everyone is ignorant, stupid, they lie, and you have the real answers, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, fuck you!

[RandomGuy]

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.


Why act like an idiot?


Why indeed.

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.


[answers other posts, ignores this question]

I'm not letting this go. It is important.

Do you agree that offspring inherit traits from their parents?

Yes or no, very easy, and not a trick of any sort. Merely trying to get to points of agreement, so we can build on it.

[RandomGuy]

If someone lies to you about something, should you trust what they say about it?


So everyone is ignorant, stupid, they lie, and you have the real answers, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, fuck you!

Not really an answer to my question either.

I would stop extending trust to people who lie to me about something, especially when I can determine the truth for myself, just as you can.

I found out that creationist claims about evolution were lies, many of them quite deliberate, a decade ago, when I first started subjecting arguments from both sides to an honest skepticism.

You do not have to accept anything I say as true. Merely go and find out the truth, see the evidence for both sides, and determine the truth for yourself.

You have not, for whatever reason. Someday you might, who knows. Until then I will simply keep plugging away, as honestly, and plainly as I can.

[Avante]

Not really an answer to my question either.

I would stop extending trust to people who lie to me about something, especially when I can determine the truth for myself, just as you can.

I found out that creationist claims about evolution were lies, many of them quite deliberate, a decade ago, when I first started subjecting arguments from both sides to an honest skepticism.

You do not have to accept anything I say as true. Merely go and find out the truth, see the evidence for both sides, and determine the truth for yourself.

You have not, for whatever reason. Someday you might, who knows. Until then I will simply keep plugging away, as honestly, and plainly as I can.

What difference does it make? Try, none!

[RandomGuy]

What difference does it make? Try, none!

Well, to people like you who don't care what is true or false, it isn't.

There are plenty of people that do care, however.

[RandomGuy]

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.


Why act like an idiot?


Why indeed.

Do you agree that offspring, inherit traits from their parents? Yes or no.


[answers other posts, ignores this question]


I'm not letting this go. It is important.

Do you agree that offspring inherit traits from their parents?

Yes or no, very easy, and not a trick of any sort. Merely trying to get to points of agreement, so we can build on it.


[another non-answer]

Do you agree that offspring inherit traits from their parents?

Yes or no. 4th time.

[spurraider21]

inb4 he posts youtubes of blues music

[Avante]

Well, to people like you who don't care what is true or false, it isn't.

There are plenty of people that do care, however.

Why?

[Avante]

Do you agree that offspring inherit traits from their parents?

Yes or no. 4th time.

Do you agree we al know that they do so why a stupid question like that?

[Avante]

inb4 he posts youtubes of blues music

Trust me little fella, I can take your little ass to school on a multitude of topics.

[spurraider21]

Trust me little fella, I can take your little ass to school on a multitude of topics.
sure as long as its not in the field of academia

[Avante]

sure as long as its not in the field of academia

Just.....

literature
music
boxing
football
track
general knowledge

[spurraider21]

i dont care about boxing and track and i admittedly, not much for literature either.

you know more old-time NFLers and music artists than i do. congratulations.

[Avante]

i dont care about boxing and track and i admittedly, not much for literature either.

you know more old-time NFLers and music artists than i do. congratulations.

Try talking biology with people, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I also know about HS/NCAA footballers and JC. Wanna talk Jackson State?

[spurraider21]

Try talking biology with people, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I also know about HS/NCAA footballers and JC. Wanna talk Jackson State?
yeah i'm sure jackson state football chat is just fucking invigorating

[Avante]

yeah i'm sure jackson state football chat is just fucking invigorating

Walter Payton, Lem Barney, Harold Jackson,Jimmy Smith, if ya knew football yep...invigorating.

[Avante]

My thing is this.....

In my life experience I've noticed those with some God in their life are happier and better adjusted to things than those who take this.....bah humbug....approach all wrapped up in...."can ya prove it huh huh huh"..ha~~~~~~~ This....see see we evolved from.....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most humans want a God, they don't want,,"see see evolution, I took biology",,,hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! People go with what makes them feel better about things, that is a belief in a Supreme Being. All you little..bah humbuggers....really aren't needed.

[Avante]

story goes
we came from the sea
we simply evolved
into you and me

we were a fish
had fins and a tail
hell we might have
even been a snail

given enought time
water can turn into wine
a worm
can grow a spine
if given enought time

some say we were a monkey too
so there's our ancestors
down at the zoo

that was some fish
so long ago
that gave us the elephant
and the Eskimo

[Avante]

I do get a kick out of these...

YOU MUST BELIEVE AS I DO

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evolution or no evolution so fucking what, what difference does it make?

[ChumpDumper]

lol another Avante meltdown

[Avante]

lol another Avante meltdown

translation

Avante, of all the legs I hump here your big muscled up ones are my favorite. Damn you're sexy.

How about something for a leg humper.

Here ya go leg humper.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvzFq2AA18s

[ChumpDumper]

Translation: Avante is still melting down.

[RandomGuy]

Do you agree that offspring inherit traits from their parents?



we [all] know that they do

Progress then. Thank you.

On to the next important question then.

Do you agree that mutations can both add new traits or delete old traits?

[RandomGuy]

story goes
we came from the sea
we simply evolved
into you and me

we were a fish
had fins and a tail
hell we might have
even been a snail

given enought time
water can turn into wine
a worm
can grow a spine
if given enought time

some say we were a monkey too
so there's our ancestors
down at the zoo

that was some fish
so long ago
that gave us the elephant
and the Eskimo

Modern monkeys are technically a "cousin" species, not an ancestor species.

http://www.zo.utexas.edu/faculty/sjasper/images/f27.2.jpg

[RandomGuy]

we were a fish
had fins and a tail
hell we might have
even been a snail


Snails are also, as has been pointed out to mouse more than once, also a "cousin" species. Our branch of animals diverged from that of snails a long, long time ago.

[lebomb]

Avante, I agree Evolution doesnt make any sense, look at all the people in this thread that are still assholes!!! Random, Blake, Spurraider......etc.

[boutons_deux]

Partly human yeast show a common ancestor's lasting legacy

Despite a billion years of evolution separating humans from the baker's yeast in their refrigerators, hundreds of genes from an ancestor that the two species have in common live on nearly unchanged in them both, say biologists at The University of Texas at Austin. The team created thriving strains of genetically engineered yeast using human genes and found that certain groups of genes are surprisingly stable over evolutionary time.

Although yeast consist of a single cell and humans have trillions of cells (http://phys.org/tags/cells/) organized into complex systems, we share thousands of similar genes. Of those, about 450 are critical for yeast's survival, so researchers removed the yeast version of each one and replaced it with the human (http://phys.org/tags/human/) version and waited to see whether the yeast would die. Creating hundreds of new strains of yeast, each with a single human gene, resulted in many newly engineered strains—nearly half, in fact—that could survive and reproduce after having human genes swapped in for their ordinary ones.

"Cells use a common set of parts and those parts, even after a billion years of independent evolution, are swappable," said Edward Marcotte, professor in the university's Department of Molecular Biosciences and co-director of the Center for Systems and Synthetic Biology (CSSB). "It's a beautiful demonstration of the common heritage of all living things—to be able to take DNA from a human and replace the matching DNA in a yeast cell and have it successfully support the life of the cell."

http://phys.org/news/2015-05-partly-human-yeast-common-ancestor.html

Avante evolved from a vaginal yeast infection.

[Avante]

What is far more important than evolution is....

Can Canadian Andre DeGrasse who just became USC's first sub10.00 sprinter beats Baylors defending 100m NCAA champ Trayvon Bromell. They both have 9.97 PR's.

[Clipper Nation]

i dont care about boxing

Except for when Floyd's winning, then you start melting down.

[spurraider21]

Except for when Floyd's winning, then you start melting down.
not really. i dont care about floyd or manny. i specifically said i wanted the result that would cause the most meltdown. an undefeated big mouth losing woulda been just that. i also said floyd would probably win the fight

[Avante]

Who actually...melts down...over silly internet bullshit? It's light weight shit making....0...impact on anything.

The

ChumpStupids
Blakes
Clipper Nations

...hahahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously little shits who wouldn't say shit to anyones face. So ya kick um around a little, have some fun.

Melting down, hahahahaha!@@@

[RandomGuy]

Do you agree that offspring inherit traits from their parents?



we [all] know that they do


Progress then. Thank you.

On to the next important question then.

Do you agree that mutations can both add new traits or delete old traits?


[non-answer]

Again, in case you missed it.

Do you agree that mutations can both add new traits or delete old traits?

[Avante]

Again, in case you missed it.

Do you agree that mutations can both add new traits or delete old traits?

I had fun with this evolution thing for awhile, but it's now getting boring, ok? To be honest about it I really don't give a shit, ok? You might find it fascinating, I don't.

We don't know what actually happened if you think you do, you'd be the only one.

So impress with me when knowing when to let things go, don't be an idiot and just keep talking about it, ok man?

[Avante]

I get the feeling from reading the threads here that a lot of you are new to sex. Trust me when I tell you, it will only get far far better once ya figure out two things....

1. what happens afterwards is very important to her. She wants to make love.
2. slow down, you aren't drilling for oil

[cantthinkofanything]

I get the feeling from reading the threads here that a lot of you are new to sex. Trust me when I tell you, it will only get far far better once ya figure out two things....

1. what happens afterwards is very important to her. She wants to make love.
2. slow down, you aren't drilling for oil

Do you even understand how oil is drilled for?

[Avante]

Do you even understand how oil is drilled for?

You do know I live about 50 miles north of Oildale/Bakersfield, right?

[Avante]

Slight exaggerations...

swims like a fish
hits like a truck
he has a glass jaw
older than dirt
she's built like a brickhouse
strong as an ox
smells like a skunk
mean as a junkyard dog
his legs were like pistons

Ya know...

Bullet Bob Hayes
Tank Younger
Mercury Morris
Joe "The Jet" Perry
Fred "The Hammer" Williamson

[Malik Hairston]

I get the feeling from reading the threads here that a lot of you are new to sex. Trust me when I tell you, it will only get far far better once ya figure out two things....

1. what happens afterwards is very important to her. She wants me to sign her permission slip for the upcoming class field trip to the museum.


Fixed it for ya, A..

[Avante]

Fixed it for ya, A..

Why act like a dummy know nothing when we both know you are well aware of the sailors/bars thing? It makes ya look retarded.

[Avante]

There isn't a guy here who wouldn't have done the same thing I did and we all know it, so this really is funny hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Clubber...what? Pussy? Oh hell no!

Yeah right, hahahhaha!

[cantthinkofanything]

You do know I live about 50 miles north of Oildale/Bakersfield, right?

No, I thought you lived in some Percy garage in the Phillipines. but what does that have to do with anything. Go to the Spurs Forum and see how many people live in San Antonio and don't know anything about the Spurs.

[Avante]

No, I thought you lived in some Percy garage in the Phillipines. but what does that have to do with anything. Go to the Spurs Forum and see how many people live in San Antonio and don't know anything about the Spurs.

You get within 10 miles of Oildale/Bakersfield and you see the drilling. And yes dummy we do see a plunger pumping up and down. Do you walk around stupid or only when here?

[cantthinkofanything]

You get within 10 miles of Oildale/Bakersfield and you see the drilling. And yes dummy we do see a plunger pumping up and down. Do you walk around stupid or only when here?

So when you compared sex to drilling for oil, you were thinking of the pump jacks?

[Avante]

So when you compared sex to drilling for oil, you were thinking of the pump jacks?

Just how damn dumb are you slugger?

[cantthinkofanything]

Just how damn dumb are you slugger?

Pretty dumb I guess. What did you mean? Please explain your analogy Mr. Twisted Stool sir.

[Avante]

Pretty dumb I guess. What did you mean? Please explain your analogy Mr. Twisted Stool sir.

Why would I care if an idiot like you got it or not? Well?

[spurraider21]

I get the feeling from reading the threads here that a lot of you are new to sex. Trust me when I tell you, it will only get far far better once ya figure out two things....

1. what happens afterwards is very important to her. She wants to make love.
2. slow down, you aren't drilling for oil
why do i feel like you've had this conversation with underaged asians?

[Avante]

why do i feel like you've had this conversation with underaged asians?

School in session

First off dummy what was....underage...over there, yep, ya don't know.

Second off dummy, this was a business arrangement nobody is dumb enought (except you) to think you were actually making love.

Dude, stick to thinking you were once a tadpole ok idiot?

[Clipper Nation]

Who actually...melts down...over silly internet bullshit?

You do, 24/7.

[Avante]

You do, 24/7.

If you really think anyone other than your faggot ass takes this silly shit serious, why am I not surprised?

Dude, you come on here acting like a old grumpy man, ALWAYS ALWAYS in a shit mood, so how do you think you will be treated? Is there anything you actually like? Have you were cracked a smile in your life? Why the constant...BAH HUMBUG..?

[Avante]

I don't think I've ever come across anyone as negative/fucked up as this Clipper Nation freak. How could anyone be that miserable 100% of the time? It's always...this faggot...that faggot...sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Poor little guy.

[Avante]

I have a confession to make..............

All that music I own, everything from conflicts out on the road with work chants to gospel to reggae to Bach, big band, BB King, Blondie, Bob Dylan, Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys, Buddy Holly, BessIe Smith, Billie Holliday, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Blind Blake, The Band, The Beatles, Billy Joe Royal, Bill Monroe, Buddy Guy.

....BUT...I don't own anything by The Eagles. Who are in my opinion the best group of vocalists in a band.

How can this be?

[boutons_deux]

New evidence emerges on the origins of life

New research shows that the close linkage between the physical properties of amino acids, the genetic code, and protein folding was likely the key factor in the evolution from building blocks to organisms in Earth's primordial soup. Credit: Gerald Prins

In the beginning, there were simple chemicals. And they produced amino acids that eventually became the proteins necessary to create single cells. And the single cells became plants and animals. Recent research is revealing how the primordial soup created the amino acid building blocks, and there is widespread scientific consensus on the evolution from the first cell into plants and animals. But it's still a mystery how the building blocks were first assembled into the proteins that formed the machinery of all cells. Now, two long-time University of North Carolina scientists - Richard Wolfenden, PhD, and Charles Carter, PhD - have shed new light on the transition from building blocks into life some 4 billion years ago.

"Our work shows that the close linkage between the physical properties (http://phys.org/tags/physical+properties/) of amino acids, the genetic code (http://phys.org/tags/genetic+code/), and protein folding was likely essential from the beginning, long before large, sophisticated molecules arrived on the scene," said Carter, professor of biochemistry and biophysics at the UNC School of Medicine. "This close interaction was likely the key factor in the evolution from building blocks to organisms."

Their findings, published in companion papers in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, fly in the face of the problematic "RNA world" theory, which posits that RNA - the molecule that today plays roles in coding, regulating, and expressing genes - elevated itself from the primordial soup of amino acids and cosmic chemicals to give rise first to short proteins called peptides and then to single-celled organisms.
Wolfenden and Carter argue that RNA did not work alone; in fact, it was no more likely that RNA catalyzed peptide formation than it was for peptides to catalyze RNA formation.
The finding adds a new layer to the story of how life evolved billions of years ago.

...

http://phys.org/news/2015-06-evidence-emerges-life.html

[Avante]

New evidence emerges on the origins of life

New research shows that the close linkage between the physical properties of amino acids, the genetic code, and protein folding was likely the key factor in the evolution from building blocks to organisms in Earth's primordial soup. Credit: Gerald Prins

In the beginning, there were simple chemicals. And they produced amino acids that eventually became the proteins necessary to create single cells. And the single cells became plants and animals. Recent research is revealing how the primordial soup created the amino acid building blocks, and there is widespread scientific consensus on the evolution from the first cell into plants and animals. But it's still a mystery how the building blocks were first assembled into the proteins that formed the machinery of all cells. Now, two long-time University of North Carolina scientists - Richard Wolfenden, PhD, and Charles Carter, PhD - have shed new light on the transition from building blocks into life some 4 billion years ago.

"Our work shows that the close linkage between the physical properties (http://phys.org/tags/physical+properties/) of amino acids, the genetic code (http://phys.org/tags/genetic+code/), and protein folding was likely essential from the beginning, long before large, sophisticated molecules arrived on the scene," said Carter, professor of biochemistry and biophysics at the UNC School of Medicine. "This close interaction was likely the key factor in the evolution from building blocks to organisms."

Their findings, published in companion papers in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, fly in the face of the problematic "RNA world" theory, which posits that RNA - the molecule that today plays roles in coding, regulating, and expressing genes - elevated itself from the primordial soup of amino acids and cosmic chemicals to give rise first to short proteins called peptides and then to single-celled organisms.
Wolfenden and Carter argue that RNA did not work alone; in fact, it was no more likely that RNA catalyzed peptide formation than it was for peptides to catalyze RNA formation.
The finding adds a new layer to the story of how life evolved billions of years ago.

...

http://phys.org/news/2015-06-evidence-emerges-life.html



What I really wanna know is how come only blacks can do this?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ftn68PZSws

[Blake]

Because God only wanted black running backs

[Avante]

Because God only wanted black running backs

Then why did he make...

Red "The Galloping Ghost" Grange
Doc "Mr Inside" Blanchard
Glen "Mr. Outside" Davis
Nick Eddy
Ed Marinaro
Dave Osborne
Doak Walker
Charlie Trippi
Bill Dudley
Cliff Battles
Clarke Hinkle
Bronko Nagurski
Beattie Feathers
Johnny "Blood" McNalley
Joe Belino
Donnie Anderson
Hugh "The King" McElhenny
Dick James
Tommy Mason
Tony Canadero
Nick Pietrasonte
Ronnie Bull
Paul Hornung
Frank Gifford
Mark Smolinski
Rick Casares
Jim Grabowski
Bill Brown
Steve Owens
Ernie Nevers
Jim Taylor
Paul Hofer
Craig James
Dickie Post
John David Crow
Walt Garrison
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett
Wray Carlton
John Cappeletti
Brian Piccolo
Keith Lincoln
Peyton Hillis
Larry Csonka
Ed Podolak
John Riggins
Mark Van Eeghan
Marv Hubbard
Rocky Blier
Jim Kiick
Don Nottingham
Jerry Hill
Tom Matte
Alan "The Horse" Ameche
Tucker Fredrickson
Alex Webster
Mike Alstott
Rob Carpenter
Joe Don Looney
Chuck Mercien
Ernie Koy
Tom Woodeshick
Jon Keyworth
Rob Lytle
David Hughes
Joe Childress


Well?

[Blake]

He didn't. White man evolved differently i guess.

[Avante]

Imagine a guppie evolving into a quick, fast, elusive running back while other guppies, became bugs.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....only a fucking retard could by that load of bullshit.

[Blake]

Why do you think your designer created whales and dolphins without gills?

Serious question.

[mouse]

Why do you think your designer created whales and dolphins without gills?

Serious question.


whales and dolphins require much more air than the standard fish, gills can't supply that huge demand.

my turn.......

How do you get DNA from rocks soaking in warm pools of liquid?
"Serious question"

[Blake]

whales and dolphins require much more air than the standard fish, gills can't supply that huge demand.

Failure. Sharks > dolphins

Try again.



my turn.......

How do you get DNA from rocks soaking in warm pools of liquid?
"Serious question"

Bombarding the earth with dna from outer space is a theory that works for me


... Ever since the discovery of organic molecules in a meteorite that landed in Australia about half a century ago, scientists have been tantalized by the possibility that the building blocks of life originated in space. New research is shedding light on how such compounds might have formed and found their way to Earth.

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[Avante]

So I take some stuff to a local thrift shop, while there I check it out.

25 cents a piece.

A Long Way Home...Ishmael Beah (story of a boy soldier in Sierra Leone)

Becoming the Natural..Randy Courture

This Is Gonna Hurt...Tito Ortiz

Brand new...$54...bucks, cost me 75cents...ha~

Only problem is I have four Lee Child's Jack Reachers in waiting.

[Blake]

So I take some stuff to a local thrift shop, while there I check it out.

25 cents a piece.

A Long Way Home...Ishmael Beah (story of a boy soldier in Sierra Leone)

Becoming the Natural..Randy Courture

This Is Gonna Hurt...Tito Ortiz

Brand new...$54...bucks, cost me 75cents...ha~

Only problem is I have four Lee Child's Jack Reachers in waiting.

Intellectual cowardice was already noted long ago.

[Avante]

Intellectual cowardice was already noted long ago.

So was the fact you're boring as fuck. You might get a nut over....we were tadpoles I tell ya...and...THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!!!

Widden those horizons ya little freak, ok?

[Blake]

So was the fact you're boring as fuck. You might get a nut over....we were tadpoles I tell ya...and...THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!!!

Widden those horizons ya little freak

Says fat old fuck that narrowed his horizon to exclude evolution.

[Avante]

Says fat old fuck that narrowed his horizon to exclude evolution.

I talked about it for how many pages? How much can be said about it? Obviously DNA fucks the whole bullshit story up. So what's left to say?

[lebomb]

Evolution makes no sense. Why did some creatures evolve and others stayed as is. Man came from apes, why the hell are there still apes? Also if everything evolved, why do some lesser organisms still depend on more advanced creatures to survive? It makes no sense, and evolutionists have one hell of a time trying to explain it.

[Avante]

Evolution makes no sense. Why did some creatures evolve and others stayed as is. Man came from apes, why the hell are there still apes? Also if everything evolved, why do some lesser organisms still depend on more advanced creatures to survive? It makes no sense, and evolutionists have one hell of a time trying to explain it.

I started reading up on evolution once upon a time. But after about the 30th...we are led to believe...there is a good chance....we might have.....it could have.......well fuck it. THEY REALLY DON;T KNOW!

The real clincher however is DNA. That took a designer and only a total/complete/100% moron wouldn't get that.

[boutons_deux]

Do all creationists use this strawman bullshit?

Creationist Ken Ham picks fight with NASA’s John Glenn: ‘You cannot turn an amoeba into an astronaut' :lol

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/creationist-ken-ham-picks-fight-with-nasas-john-glenn-you-cannot-turn-an-amoeba-into-an-astronaut/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[spurraider21]

Evolution makes no sense. Why did some creatures evolve and others stayed as is. Man came from apes, why the hell are there still apes? Also if everything evolved, why do some lesser organisms still depend on more advanced creatures to survive? It makes no sense, and evolutionists have one hell of a time trying to explain it.
:lol

[spurraider21]

Evolution makes no sense. Why did some creatures evolve and others stayed as is. Man came from apes, why the hell are there still apes? Also if everything evolved, why do some lesser organisms still depend on more advanced creatures to survive? It makes no sense, and evolutionists have one hell of a time trying to explain it.
:lol

http://i.gyazo.com/53cdb6c005723f224333c078ae714b0e.png

[Blake]

I talked about it for how many pages? How much can be said about it? Obviously DNA fucks the whole bullshit story up. So what's left to say?

Your horizons are too narrow and your designer made your brain too small.

[Avante]

Look at the dummies up there, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, which one of you dummies can explain just how did DNA come about?

[Avante]

Your horizons are too narrow and your designer made your brain too small.

Do I really need to totally take you to school on multitude of topics? We could start with TT football 2015.

I;m not the cat who can only talk...THERE IS NO GOD/EVOLUTION...that would be you simpleton.

[Blake]

Evolution makes no sense. Why did some creatures evolve and others stayed as is. Man came from apes, why the hell are there still apes? Also if everything evolved, why do some lesser organisms still depend on more advanced creatures to survive? It makes no sense, and evolutionists have one hell of a time trying to explain it.

creationists have one hell of a time understanding random mutations and natural selection.

[spurraider21]

Look at the dummies up there, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, which one of you dummies can explain just how did DNA come about?
go back and read through the thread. you asked this question a dozens of times and it was addressed each time.

you probably never bothered to read them, and instead responded with a youtube you never watched, or a random list of musicians which had nothing to do with the discussion

[Blake]

Do I really need to totally take you to school on multitude of topics? We could start with TT football 2015.

I;m not the cat who can only talk...THERE IS NO GOD/EVOLUTION...that would be you simpleton.

Oh because talking about Tech football in an evolution thread would teach me.

Go back to your almanac lists, you narrow minded old fuck.

[lebomb]

Look at the dummies up there, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, which one of you dummies can explain just how did DNA come about?

Sic em Avante. They cant answer a damn thing. LOL at we came from catfish. hahahahahaha!!!!

[Blake]

Sic em Avante. They cant answer a damn thing. LOL at we came from catfish. hahahahahaha!!!!

It's been answered ad nauseum, dumbass.

[lebomb]

Blakes great, great, great, great, great..........X100 grandfather was a sailfish. LOL!!!! Spurraiders great X1000 grandmother was a jellyfish. LMAO!!!!

Bunch a dumbasses.

[Avante]

go back and read through the thread. you asked this question a dozens of times and it was addressed each time.

you probably never bothered to read them, and instead responded with a youtube you never watched, or a random list of musicians which had nothing to do with the discussion

Why not just say you can't? Nobody can.

[Blake]

Blakes great, great, great, great, great..........X100 grandfather was a sailfish. LOL!!!! Spurraiders great X1000 grandmother was a jellyfish. LMAO!!!!

Bunch a dumbasses.

Lol you're lazy and stupid.

[Avante]

Oh because talking about Tech football in an evolution thread would teach me.

Go back to your almanac lists, you narrow minded old fuck.

It's pretty obvious by now nobody has ever taught you anything ya fucking moron.

[Avante]

Lol you're lazy and stupid.

He;s not the one thinking he was once a fish ya fucking retard.

[Avante]

Blakes great, great, great, great, great..........X100 grandfather was a sailfish. LOL!!!! Spurraiders great X1000 grandmother was a jellyfish. LMAO!!!!

Bunch a dumbasses.

Yes they are but too damn stupid to know it.

[lebomb]

Fuckin cannibals........eating their ancestors.

You mean someone could be eating the offspring of a relative at red lobster??

[Avante]

creationists have one hell of a time understanding random mutations and natural selection.

While only idiots and morons buy all that bullshit.

[Blake]

While only idiots and morons buy all that bullshit.

That's not true at all. You're lazy and stupid too.

[lebomb]

Only the select few creaters were destined to evolve I guess. Is that the scientists theory? Why are some creatures still around that other creatures SO CALLED evolved from? Why dont some of those fish, monkeys, giraffes, etc. evolve into the top species of humans? What decides (cant be a who) evolves and what stays a shitty lower level creature? How did some creatures get the short end of the stick and are bottom feeders? While others were privileged enough to move on up in this world?

[lebomb]

Luck right?

[Avante]

Only the select few creaters were destined to evolve I guess. Is that the scientists theory? Why are some creatures still around that other creatures SO CALLED evolved from? Why dont some of those fish, monkeys, giraffes, etc. evolve into the top species of humans? What decides (cant be a who) evolves and what stays a shitty lower level creature? How did some creatures get the short end of the stick and are bottom feeders? While others were privileged enough to move on up in this world?

Give up my friend they are too stupid to understand any of that.

[Blake]

Only the select few creaters were destined to evolve I guess. Is that the scientists theory? Why are some creatures still around that other creatures SO CALLED evolved from? Why dont some of those fish, monkeys, giraffes, etc. evolve into the top species of humans? What decides (cant be a who) evolves and what stays a shitty lower level creature? How did some creatures get the short end of the stick and are bottom feeders? While others were privileged enough to move on up in this world?

99.9% of all species that have ever existed have gone extinct.

Your creator sucks at creation.

[Blake]

Give up my friend they are too stupid to understand any of that.

You're too stupid to find the answer to his question.

[Blake]

Luck right?

Sure, why not?

Or if you want to say your creator used evolution to create humanity, that could work

[spurraider21]

Only the select few creaters were destined to evolve I guess. Is that the scientists theory? Why are some creatures still around that other creatures SO CALLED evolved from? Why dont some of those fish, monkeys, giraffes, etc. evolve into the top species of humans? What decides (cant be a who) evolves and what stays a shitty lower level creature? How did some creatures get the short end of the stick and are bottom feeders? While others were privileged enough to move on up in this world?
just because you ask the question for a second time, it doesn't mean the answer has to change

http://i.gyazo.com/53cdb6c005723f224333c078ae714b0e.png

[Avante]

You're too stupid to find the answer to his question.

How could anyone who thinks he was once a frog call anyone stupid, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

just because you ask the question for a second time, it doesn't mean the answer has to change

http://i.gyazo.com/53cdb6c005723f224333c078ae714b0e.png

You really are dumb enought to buy all that silly shit aren't ya amigo?

[Blake]

How could anyone who thinks he was once a frog call anyone stupid, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

stay narrow minded and ignorant, stupid.

[Blake]

You really are dumb enought to buy all that silly shit aren't ya amigo?

nothing to buy. It's free knowledge you're refusing.

[Avante]

stay narrow minded and ignorant, stupid.

Dude, I'm the one who thinks a great Superior Being is responsible for all this ,some magic Man/Thing in outer space, You;re the simply little shit talking worms and shit. So who is narrow minded. ignorant and stupid?

[Avante]

nothing to buy. It's free knowledge you're refusing.

Thinking a sparrow evolved from a fish is stupid guy, ok? If you can't see that, why am I not surprised?

[Blake]

Dude, I'm the one who thinks a great Superior Being is responsible for all this ,some magic Man/Thing in outer space, You;re the simply little shit talking worms and shit. So who is marrow minded. ignorant and stupid?

right, you're closing the door on random luck and sticking firm with a big invisible sky man from another dimension.

That's the exact definition of narrow minded you retarded piece of shit.

[Avante]

right, you're closing the door on random luck and sticking firm with a big invisible sky man from another dimension.

That's the exact definition of narrow minded you retarded piece of shit.

Actually idiot, the defintion of narrow minded is limiting ones self to what the science books are telling them. I'm the guy who looks outside those barriers ya fucking retarded slab of monkey shit.

you...well I was taught in school.......

me...fuck that, let's look at some other options.

Damn you're dumb, wow~~~~~~~~

[DMC]

Actually idiot, the defintion of narrow minded is limiting ones self to what the science books are telling them. I'm the guy who looks outside those barriers ya fucking retarded slab of monkey shit.

you...well I was taught in school.......

me...fuck that, let's look at some other options.

Damn you're dumb, wow~~~~~~~~

You're one of the idiots here, that's for sure. Troll or not, you can't even pretend to be that fucking stupid. You and a host of your ilk love playing the ignorant card, it's a troll old as fuck and uninteresting. Just say stupid shit and see how far the thread will go, smoke pot and PM each other until you cum.

Look at your life, what have you become, old man? You cannot even post an accurate definition, you have to make it up as you go.

Larry, faggot.

[Avante]

You're one of the idiots here, that's for sure. Troll or not, you can't even pretend to be that fucking stupid. You and a host of your ilk love playing the ignorant card, it's a troll old as fuck and uninteresting. Just say stupid shit and see how far the thread will go, smoke pot and PM each other until you cum.

Look at your life, what have you become, old man? You cannot even post an accurate definition, you have to make it up as you go.

Larry, faggot.

Look at yourself guy, it is this sad or what? Going around all day seeing if you can bug somebody, now add you're an idiot, sad to watch runt. I see your name an it's..."another wahwah or stupidity or zzzzzzzzz". Dude, you;re totally fucked up, ok? But.....I do have fun kicking your faggot ass around..ok?

[spurraider21]

You really are dumb enought to buy all that silly shit aren't ya amigo?
To me it's hilarious when people who don't even understand the basic concepts of the theory are trying to dismiss it, when 99% of experts agree with it.

It would be like some guy who never even saw The Godfather trying to convince others that it's one of the worst movies ever made. If you are going to make such a strong claim, at least be familiar with what you are claiming

[Avante]

To me it's hilarious when people who don't even understand the basic concepts of the theory are trying to dismiss it, when 99% of experts agree with it.

It would be like some guy who never even saw The Godfather trying to convince others that it's one of the worst movies ever made. If you are going to make such a strong claim, at least be familiar with what you are claiming

Why do you still act like it's some big complex situation? That amazes me. What is complicated about it? Yep. nothing!

I just don't buy it and am well aware of how many times all the scientists were wrong. Well add another.

[spurraider21]

Why do you still act like it's some big complex situation? That amazes me. What is complicated about it? Yep. nothing!

I just don't buy it and am well aware of how many times all the scientists were wrong. Well add another.
i dont think its complex at all. which is why i find it hilarious when simpletons like yourself or lebomb dont seem to grasp it

[Avante]

i dont think its complex at all. which is why i find it hilarious when simpletons like yourself or lebomb dont seem to grasp it

A simpleton believes whatever he is told/taught, that would be asshole. Ever thought of other options?

[spurraider21]

A simpleton believes whatever he is told/taught, that would be asshole. Ever thought of other options?
of course. i was raised on the other option

[Avante]

of course. i was raised on the other option

So when did stupidity hit ya? Did mom and dad know their son had gone dumb? Did ya ever tell them you thought they were full of shit?

[Avante]

Pushin; 160 pages, that's gotta be a record.

First off let me thank all the little people, obviously with out the midgets this couldn't be possible. Then I'd like to thank all those scientists who convinced the dummies here that they were once a guppie.,....thank you!

I need a tune about me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlJvJye9c_M

[spurraider21]

So when did stupidity hit ya?
when did i stop believing the man in the sky stuff? once i started thinking for myself instead of just believing what i was spoonfed growing up


Did mom and dad know their son had gone dumb? Did ya ever tell them you thought they were full of shit?
i told them outright that i didnt believe. i told it to their faces. i didn't tell them they were full of shit, i told them i thought the bible was

the more i studied and learned, the clearer it all became. too bad you never reached that stage of life

[Avante]

when did i stop believing the man in the sky stuff? once i started thinking for myself instead of just believing what i was spoonfed growing up


i told them outright that i didnt believe. i told it to their faces. i didn't tell them they were full of shit, i told them i thought the bible was

the more i studied and learned, the clearer it all became. too bad you never reached that stage of life

That stage of life where ya go around trying to convince everyone they were once a fish, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Give it guy only an idiot would buy that bullshit ok?

[spurraider21]

That stage of life where ya go around trying to convince everyone they were once a fish, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Give it guy only an idiot would buy that bullshit ok?
only the smartest minds in the world buy it... hence 99% of scientists/biologists

you know, people who actually study this for a living

[Avante]

only the smartest minds in the world buy it... hence 99% of scientists/biologists

you know, people who actually study this for a living

How many planets are there in our scholar system? Do I really need to go on and on and on and on with all the times the science world was 100% wrong? Well?

[Blake]

How many planets are there in our scholar system? Do I really need to go on and on and on and on with all the times the science world was 100% wrong? Well?

Narrow minded view of science

[Avante]

Narrow minded view of science

It's 1936, Jesse Owens has just ran a 10.3 100m to win the Olympics gold medal.

If asked back in 1936 just how fast can a human being run science will use 10.3 as the starting point. They will take into consideration how the event has progressed over the last 50 years and try to project the next 50 and then get some sort of average per 25 years. But, there is no system, no playing with numbers that will give them......9.58. Ya see back then there were no 6-5 sprinters with 45.2 400m ability. That 400m ability giving any 100m sprinter a whole other level of speed endurance, which is the key to 100m sprinting. Usain Bolt has a stride unlike any other 100m sprinter.

Science would come up with about 9.8. Which is way off.

Science can never see those outliers, the exceptions to the rules. Something we see all the time.

Franco Columbo the former Mr.Olympia would be considered obese on any of those height/weight charts. You see science can only deal with the normal. They can't predict the abnormal. Calvin Johnson is abnormal, Shaq, and it goes on and on.

Science is simply too limited.

[boutons_deux]

"all the times the science world was 100% wrong?"

how about all the time religions were wrong, and labeled people heretics, and tortured or killed them?

how many religions went to war and killed 100Ms of people in other religions?

it's awfully silly to defend Religion over science, but keep trying.

[Blake]

Science is simply too limited.

So you're gonna dismiss it's findings.

How narrow minded.

[Blake]

"all the times the science world was 100% wrong?"

how about all the time religions were wrong, and labeled people heretics, and tortured or killed them?

how many religions went to war and killed 100Ms of people in other religions?

it's awfully silly to defend Religion over science, but keep trying.






Science is open minded.

religion is close minded.

Avante is narrow minded.

[DMC]

Look at the dummies up there, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, which one of you dummies can explain just how did DNA come about?

Explain how your DNA ended up in some 12 year old girl in Olongapo.

[DMC]

It's 1936, Jesse Owens has just ran a 10.3 100m to win the Olympics gold medal.

If asked back in 1936 just how fast can a human being run science will use 10.3 as the starting point. They will take into consideration how the event has progressed over the last 50 years and try to project the next 50 and then get some sort of average per 25 years. But, there is no system, no playing with numbers that will give them......9.58. Ya see back then there were no 6-5 sprinters with 45.2 400m ability. That 400m ability giving any 100m sprinter a whole other level of speed endurance, which is the key to 100m sprinting. Usain Bolt has a stride unlike any other 100m sprinter.

Science would come up with about 9.8. Which is way off.

Science can never see those outliers, the exceptions to the rules. Something we see all the time.

Franco Columbo the former Mr.Olympia would be considered obese on any of those height/weight charts. You see science can only deal with the normal. They can't predict the abnormal. Calvin Johnson is abnormal, Shaq, and it goes on and on.

Science is simply too limited.
How do you know Shaq is abnormal? How do you know Franco isn't obese?

[spurraider21]

How many planets are there in our scholar system? Do I really need to go on and on and on and on with all the times the science world was 100% wrong? Well?
we've already had the "science has been wrong" discussion. the difference is science is flexible. when science is wrong, guess who finds out that they were wrong? oh, other scientists. einstein, a scientist, is the one who showed newton's laws of gravity were wrong. theories involving something like god, which can't be proven nor disproven, are inflexible. they've held the same belief for thousands of years.

if scientists makes mistakes, they own up to it, make corrections, and move on. i find it unlikely the creationists have been 100% correct about everything this whole time. but they haven't corrected anything or moved on from anything. they're still fixated on the same archaic view

[boutons_deux]

Eukaryotes: A new timetable of evolution
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-06/m-ean060315.php

Scientists keeps science-ing, you creationists keep bullshitting.

[Avante]

"all the times the science world was 100% wrong?"

how about all the time religions were wrong, and labeled people heretics, and tortured or killed them?

how many religions went to war and killed 100Ms of people in other religions?

it's awfully silly to defend Religion over science, but keep trying.






Who is defending religion? I;m not religious at all, it's a load of bullshit.

[Avante]

we've already had the "science has been wrong" discussion. the difference is science is flexible. when science is wrong, guess who finds out that they were wrong? oh, other scientists. einstein, a scientist, is the one who showed newton's laws of gravity were wrong. theories involving something like god, which can't be proven nor disproven, are inflexible. they've held the same belief for thousands of years.

if scientists makes mistakes, they own up to it, make corrections, and move on. i find it unlikely the creationists have been 100% correct about everything this whole time. but they haven't corrected anything or moved on from anything. they're still fixated on the same archaic view

What does that have to do with being wrong? Science has been proven wrong tons of times.

Prove the creationists are wrong, it's never been done.

[spurraider21]

What does that have to do with being wrong? Science has been proven wrong tons of times.

Prove the creationists are wrong, it's never been done.
Creationists have been wrong about quite a few things. The church had galileo killed for insinuating that the earth revolved around the sun

[Avante]

Creationists have been wrong about quite a few things. The church had galileo killed for insinuating that the earth revolved around the sun

No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bullshit, do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't fucking know for sure, ok?

Let it go ,ok?

[spurraider21]

No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bullshit, do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't fucking know for sure, ok?

Let it go ,ok?
It had nothing to do with beliefs? Lol it was all about their belief of the sun revolving around the earth

[Blake]

No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bullshit, do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't fucking know for sure, ok?

Let it go ,ok?

They do know for sure. You're stupid. And fat.

[boutons_deux]

"Science has been wrong many many many times"

therefore, all science is wrong? science is wrong, after 150+ years of research, observation, is wrong about biological evolution?

your creationism is wrong now, and has NEVER been right, is not testable, is unscientific, irrational crap

[boutons_deux]

Australian fossil forces rethink on our ancestors' emergence onto land

A 333-million year old broken bone is causing fossil scientists to reconsider the evolution of land-dwelling vertebrate animals, says a team of palaeontologists, including QUT evolutionary biologist Dr Matthew Phillips, and colleagues at Monash University and Queensland Museum.

Analysis of a fractured and partially healed radius (front-leg bone) fromOssinodus pueri, a large, primitive, four-legged (tetrapod), salamander-like animal, found in Queensland, pushes back the date for the origin of demonstrably terrestrial vertebrates by two million years, said Dr Phillips, a researcher in the Vertebrate Evolution Group in QUT's School of Earth, Environmental and Biological Sciences.

"Previously described partial skeletons of Ossinodus suggest this species could grow to more than 2m long and perhaps to around 50kg," Dr Phillips said.

"Its age raises the possibility that the first animals to emerge from the water to live on land were large tetrapods in Gondwana in the southern hemisphere, rather than smaller species in Europe.

"The evolution of land-dwelling tetrapods from fish is a pivotal phase in the history of vertebrates because it called for huge physical changes, such as weight bearing skeletons and dependence on air-breathing."

Dr Phillips said the nature of the break in the radius bone was studied using high-resolution finite element analysis by Peter Bishop for his honours research at QUT.
"The nature of the fracture suggests the bone broke under high-force impact.

"The break was most plausibly caused by a fall on land because such force would be difficult to achieve with the cushioning effect of water.

"Indeed, the fracture is somewhat reminiscent of people falling on an outstretched arm and the humerus crashing into and fracturing the radius."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/06/150604100843.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28Latest+Scienc e+News+--+ScienceDaily%29

[phyzik]

Q5zXiKuV_8I

For those Xians who probably wont even watch the video...

1. God is all Powerful.

2. God loves Everyone.

3. There is suffering in the world.


Reconcile all 3 of those statements "TOGETHER" while explaining the reality of the world today.






in our world TODAY a child DIES every 5 SECONDS.

In our world TODAY 25 people die every MINUTE from diseases from unclean water.

Every HOUR TODAY 300 people die from Malaria.

If "god" is all powerful and can intervene, why doesn't he?


The answer???

BECAUSE HE IS NOT REAL!!!

[pgardn]

No they haven't. That example has nothing to do with their beliefs.

Science has been wrong many many many times, and you know this. Well, add another...evolution.

Look guy, if you have some need to believe that bullshit, do it....ok? I'm not going to buy into anything where all ya read is.....we are led to believe.....a good chance that....ok man? They don't fucking know for sure, ok?

Let it go ,ok?

Of course the idea of life on Earth evolving from other life could be wrong.
So now you come to the following questions that are much tougher:

1. So how do new species arise mechanistically? Or you want the religious, poof, they just came about, Uhhh, because they just did.
2. What about Evolution do you find incomprehensible?

So far, every one of your reasons given for #2 are absolutely ignorant and NOT what science has said. You just think up some of the most bizzare statements you can, and then put it under your guise of what science says. You continuously fall back on this absurd tactic. Thinking people, with any knowlege of the subject, can see right through your silly, idiotic statements about what science says... "I did not come from that little worm or cell shit..." It's obnoxiously tiring and you can't push thru it. It some magical envelope for you.


A much better question could be ' why did it take eukaryotes so damn long to evolve from prokaryotes?' (Boots article should arouse your curiosity) If you could mechanistically go through why this could not happen it would be a revelation and actually have value.

Then we could have an actual conversation that would be worthwhile. But you can't get to that level. Like a child who has no real recognition of others, just self, you can't fathom the leap. Your head will explode. It's a quantum leap for a pea brained list maker. I feel somewhat sorry you can't get it.

[phyzik]

Of course the idea of life on Earth evolving from other life could be wrong.
So now you come to the following questions that are much tougher:

1. So how do new species arise mechanistically? Or you want the religious, poof, they just came about, Uhhh, because they just did.
2. What about Evolution do you find incomprehensible?

So far, every one of your reasons given for #2 are absolutely ignorant and NOT what science has said. You just think up some of the most bizzare statements you can, and then put it under your guise of what science says. You continuously fall back on this absurd tactic. Thinking people, with any knowlege of the subject, can see right through your silly, idiotic statements about what science says... "I did not come from that little worm or cell shit..." It's obnoxiously tiring and you can't push thru it. It some magical envelope for you.


A much better question could be ' why did it take eukaryotes so damn long to evolve from prokaryotes?' (Boots article should arouse your curiosity) If you could mechanistically go through why this could not happen it would be a revelation and actually have value.

Then we could have an actual conversation that would be worthwhile. But you can't get to that level. Like a child who has no real recognition of others, just self, you can't fathom the leap. Your head will explode. It's a quantum leap for a pea brained list maker. I feel somewhat sorry you can't get it.

I can already answer on behalf of the ignorant...

"we don't know, Therefore invisible sky daddy did it, I also believe in Santa and unicorns!!!! Do not judge me for those beliefs as I am an adult and totally not indoctrinated, even though I have no concept of logical thinking for my self, I need to be treated with respect for being an adult and believing in imaginary friends!!!"

:lol

[phyzik]

If you have such depraved thoughts that the ONLY thing holding you back from being a rapist murderer is a chance that there is a "god" and that is the only thing holding you back from doing that crazy shit, then you are a really fucked up person and any righteous god, regardless of your acceptance for him, would send you to "hell".

Fortunately, even though if that were true, it is probably not the case.

Do you remember anything before being born?

Death is probably like that.

We got this one life to live and that is it. Enjoy it.

[Avante]

Of course the idea of life on Earth evolving from other life could be wrong.
So now you come to the following questions that are much tougher:

1. So how do new species arise mechanistically? Or you want the religious, poof, they just came about, Uhhh, because they just did.
2. What about Evolution do you find incomprehensible?

So far, every one of your reasons given for #2 are absolutely ignorant and NOT what science has said. You just think up some of the most bizzare statements you can, and then put it under your guise of what science says. You continuously fall back on this absurd tactic. Thinking people, with any knowlege of the subject, can see right through your silly, idiotic statements about what science says... "I did not come from that little worm or cell shit..." It's obnoxiously tiring and you can't push thru it. It some magical envelope for you.


A much better question could be ' why did it take eukaryotes so damn long to evolve from prokaryotes?' (Boots article should arouse your curiosity) If you could mechanistically go through why this could not happen it would be a revelation and actually have value.

Then we could have an actual conversation that would be worthwhile. But you can't get to that level. Like a child who has no real recognition of others, just self, you can't fathom the leap. Your head will explode. It's a quantum leap for a pea brained list maker. I feel somewhat sorry you can't get it.

The fun I have with this topic is watching idiots like you and the rest of these dumb fucks trying to push yours beliefs down everyone throats, when ya really don't know a damn thing abouit nothing.

Ok?

Look at yourself, you how ya act, do you really believe anyone wants to discuss anything with a prick like you?

Go suck a dick bitch, ok?

[Avante]

Explain how your DNA ended up in some 12 year old girl in Olongapo.

Do you really believe 12 year old girls were hustling drinks, are you simply retarded?

[Avante]

Q5zXiKuV_8I

For those Xians who probably wont even watch the video...

1. God is all Powerful.

2. God loves Everyone.

3. There is suffering in the world.


Reconcile all 3 of those statements "TOGETHER" while explaining the reality of the world today.






in our world TODAY a child DIES every 5 SECONDS.

In our world TODAY 25 people die every MINUTE from diseases from unclean water.

Every HOUR TODAY 300 people die from Malaria.

If "god" is all powerful and can intervene, why doesn't he?


The answer???

BECAUSE HE IS NOT REAL!!!

Tell that to the billions and billions and billions of those who believed in Him before your retarded little ass came along.

You're a fucking idiot!

[Avante]

Just how many morons/idots live in Texas anyway? It's incredible the amount of stupidity I see here, wow!

I discovered this band a few months ago, I couldn't understand how I didn't know about them, remember I know everything. Obviously these guys aren't kids.

For some reason they had never recorded a CD before. Why??????



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vduX3Tup1OQ

[Avante]

I'm tired of the evolution bullshit, ok little people? You fucks don't shit and it's obvious ok? Now watch some faggot totally disregard what I just said, sheesh~~~~

Moving on.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wJj58aLvdQ

[phyzik]

I REALLY do NOT want to create another thread about this topic.... Do "believers" even understand what a "THEORY" is in the context of science?

Do you people even realize how FRUSTRATING it is to argue with someone who doesn't even understand the basic principles of what we are discussing?

It is literally like answering a child who keeps asking "why?" for every answer you give.

the "Theory" of Evolution is LITERALLY the same as the "theory" of GRAVITY. We know about gravity and the "theory" of it helps explain it.... Just because it is a "theory" doesn't mean it is just a fantasy. We KNOW Gravity exist, the Theory, although incomplete, helps explain it.

This also applies to the "theory" of evolution..... We have bountiful evidence to help support the "theory" therefore until someone comes up with a contradictory theses that stands up to scientific scrutiny, it will stand as the best model... Just FYI, Evolution has been under scrutiny for almost 200 years and is one of the most robust "Theories" ever to be posited in the human race.

[ChumpDumper]

What does that have to do with being wrong? Science has been proven wrong tons of times.Science has been proved wrong by science.
Science has also been proved right by science.

Prove the creationists are wrong, it's never been done.I'll wait for creationists to prove themselves right first. It's never been done.

[Avante]

Look at those idiots above, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! What, they can't read? They totally ignore what I just said, :rolleyes

Amazing.

I'll come clean, I don't give a fuck of a giant fly flew over and shit us all out, ok? Who cares, ok?

Now watch that get totally ignored.

Amazing.

[ChumpDumper]

Look at those idiots above, hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! What, they can't read? They totally ignore what I just said, :rolleyes

Amazing.

I'll come clean, I don't give a fuck of a giant fly flew over and shit us all out, ok? Who cares, ok?

Now watch that get totally ignored.

Amazing.Great, then you don't have to be in these threads anymore.

[Avante]

Great, then you don't have to be in these threads anymore.

Are you just totally void of any intelligence of any kind? You come off as one diseased little idiot. You never ever pick up on anything, never. Dude, it isn't real obvious by now I play the dumb fucks here like you? And, I;m good at it.

Now I gotta take another shower, I hate talking to you, it's nasty because you stink....YUCK~~~~~


Now watch this sick bitch totally ignore that, incredible. Texas?????

[ChumpDumper]

Are you just totally void of any intelligence of any kind? You come off as one diseased little idiot. You never ever pick up on anything, never. Dude, it isn't real obvious by now I play the dumb fucks here like you? And, I;m good at it.

Now I gotta take another shower, I hate talking to you, it's nasty because you stink....YUCK~~~~~


Now watch this sick bitch totally ignore that, incredible. Texas?????lol central California


I ignored nothing. I stated the only logical course for you to follow now -- staying out of these threads since you care nothing about the subject.

Now watch this sick bitch totally ignore that.

[Avante]

Is there a name for this? Look this guy, he acts as if he has no idea what he just read. He totally ignores what was just said about him and just rambles on. What a sick fuck this freak is.

Here he comes again, I gurantee it.

[Avante]

How can the Chinese/Japanese make all that great electronic shit they do, yet such bad movies? That's not done intentionally is it?

[Blake]

How can the Chinese/Japanese make all that great electronic shit they do, yet such bad movies? That's not done intentionally is it?

Are you implying your god made a mistake with the Japanese

[Avante]

Are you implying your god made a mistake with the Japanese

I don't have a God.

There is nothing to worship, nothing expecting us to do anything. No place to go once ya die. All that is simply Homeristic bullshit. Yep, mythology.

There is some power out there some creative force. That for some unknown reason designed all this. To think it could be possible otherwise is ignorance on a grand scale.

I have no idea just what this is, nobody does, so we need bullshit stories, the Bible, the Koran etc.

Idiots like you, evolution.

[Blake]

I don't have a God.

There is nothing to worship, nothing expecting us to do anything. No place to go once ya die. All that is simply Homeristic bullshit. Yep, mythology.

There is some power out there some creative force. That for some unknown reason designed all this. To think it could be possible otherwise is ignorance on a grand scale.

I have no idea just what this is, nobody does, so we need bullshit stories, the Bible, the Koran etc.

Idiots like you, evolution.

Right, sidestep the point of the question.

And where did your designer come from?

[Avante]

Right, sidestep the point of the question.

And where did your designer come from?

When ya ask stupid questions, I just ignore them, you don't appear to know any better.

Here's where everyone has their problem. They try to use our limits/logic to things so far beyond that we can't even begin to fathom it. We simply aren't equpped to comprehend it, so we don't.

Look at you..."where did your designer come from"...that's trying to compare things to our human limitations. It doesn't work that way and you being an idiot can't see that.

[spurraider21]

that's such a convenient excuse. you get to make up an otherworldly entity and you dont have to answer questions about it because its otherworldly.

if it's so beyond our understanding, how do you even know it exists?

[Avante]

that's such a convenient excuse. you get to make up an otherworldly entity and you dont have to answer questions about it because its otherworldly.

if it's so beyond our understanding, how do you even know it exists?

I don't like punk or rock, yet many people do. We all have our own personal thing. That's simply mine, I don't try to sell it to anyone. I only bring it up when others try to shove their crap down my throat.

Believe whatever you want just don't try and criticize what others believe, ok? Every church in this country thinks you are wrong and you don't care ..right? Well I don't care either.

Oh yeah, according to LINDY's 2015 NFL PREVIEW, your Raiders scored a 62.0 power rating. Only Jags/Redskins are lower. The number one team scored 72, that would be Seattle.

[Avante]

I really like this band.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8UL8cevYp0

[spurraider21]

I don't like punk or rock, yet many people do. We all have our own personal thing. That's simply mine, I don't try to sell it to anyone. I only bring it up when others try to shove their crap down my throat.

Believe whatever you want just don't try and criticize what others believe, ok? Every church in this country thinks you are wrong and you don't care ..right? Well I don't care either.

Oh yeah, according to LINDY's 2015 NFL PREVIEW, your Raiders scored a 62.0 power rating. Only Jags/Redskins are lower. The number one team scored 72, that would be Seattle.
church's are entirely based on faith, not evidence

[pgardn]

The fun I have with this topic is watching idiots like you and the rest of these dumb fucks trying to push yours beliefs down everyone throats, when ya really don't know a damn thing abouit nothing.

Ok?

Look at yourself, you how ya act, do you really believe anyone wants to discuss anything with a prick like you?

Go suck a dick bitch, ok?

I don't care what you believe. That's your choice.

You claim to have an appreciation for music?
You think you feel something wonderful and have the background and understanding to recognize its beauty?

Well you know what you poor old fart, you are completely and utterly in the shallow end of the pool on the incredible beauty of the subject of your thread. I suggest you read the series of short essays by Stephen Jay Gould (via Natural History) that are now compiled in book form. These are for starters.

Ever Since Darwin
The Panda's Thumb
Hen's Teeth And Horses Toes
Bully For Brontosaurus


I could continue the list, but I won't, because you won't touch them most likely.

So you come on this site claiming to want to know every detail of subjects that interest you.
Evolution, obviously, has not in any way sparked some curiosity in your feeble brain. Yet you feel quite comfortable dismissing it outright without a hint of understanding, or bothering to educate yourself on the subject. You claim a passion for learning things you are interested in... And this does not strike you as... sick?

Introspection. Try it.

[mouse]

These are for starters.

Ever Since Darwin
The Panda's Thumb
Hen's Teeth And Horses Toes
Bully For Brontosaurus


Which of these ^
has proof humans evolved from a fish?



I could continue the list,.

Please do, (with real facts this time)

[pgardn]

Mouse.

Got you on Ignore.


You want me to look at the post? I will. If it has any misrepresentations of evolution like the rest of you fruit cakes I will make it small bits.

If it's just a general insult, no comment.

[Avante]

I don't care what you believe. That's your choice.

You claim to have an appreciation for music?
You think you feel something wonderful and have the background and understanding to recognize its beauty?

Well you know what you poor old fart, you are completely and utterly in the shallow end of the pool on the incredible beauty of the subject of your thread. I suggest you read the series of short essays by Stephen Jay Gould (via Natural History) that are now compiled in book form. These are for starters.

Ever Since Darwin
The Panda's Thumb
Hen's Teeth And Horses Toes
Bully For Brontosaurus


I could continue the list, but I won't, because you won't touch them most likely.

So you come on this site claiming to want to know every detail of subjects that interest you.
Evolution, obviously, has not in any way sparked some curiosity in your feeble brain. Yet you feel quite comfortable dismissing it outright without a hint of understanding, or bothering to educate yourself on the subject. You claim a passion for learning things you are interested in... And this does not strike you as... sick?

Introspection. Try it.

Hey stupid, it's done got boring as fuck, ok man?

You might have been a fish, I wasn't, ok?

[Avante]

I hope I never end up in Texas, lotta freaks.

But I do dig the music.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50RjCGVPhbA




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GItYgB7x8mk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sS5jSbV0Vg

[Blake]

When ya ask stupid questions, I just ignore them, you don't appear to know any better.

Here's where everyone has their problem. They try to use our limits/logic to things so far beyond that we can't even begin to fathom it. We simply aren't equpped to comprehend it, so we don't.

Look at you..."where did your designer come from"...that's trying to compare things to our human limitations. It doesn't work that way and you being an idiot can't see that.

you made all that shit up. No reason to respond any other way except lol dumbass.

[Avante]

you made all that shit up. No reason to respond any other way except lol dumbass.

I'm just echoing what Einstein said about all this religious/God thing. Something along the lines of....

We are just too limited to even begin to comprehend.

And that is exactly how it is and only a dumb fuck like you wouldn't get that,

[Blake]

We are just too limited to even begin to comprehend.


prove that statement.

Oh you can't?

Then you're making shit up. Right out of your fat ass

[Avante]

prove that statement.

Oh you can't?

Then you're making shit up. Right out of your fat ass

Wrong as you always are.

Read chapter 15 in the book..."The Universe and Dr. Einstein"...by Linclon Barnett, which I now hold in my hand.

Dude, are you ever going to figure I'm an avid reader? Or just keep ignoring all things pointing towards that being the case?

[spurraider21]

Why do you read everything except for peer reviewed scientific articles?

[Avante]

Why do you read everything except for peer reviewed scientific articles?

Science has been totally wrong so many times why bother?

[boutons_deux]

Science has been totally wrong so many times why bother?

science keeps trying, is more wrong than right, while you creationists keep believing fantasies, and spewing "fish-to-human" straw men

[Avante]

science keeps trying, is more wrong than right, while you creationists keep believing fantasies, and spewing "fish-to-human" straw men

Take science 500 years ago vs today, HUGE difference, right? What has changed with believing in a MasterDesigner. yep...nothing.

Look, if you have some need to be an idiot, cool~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[boutons_deux]

believing in a MasterDesigner

:lol wrong forever

:lol evidence free,

not amenable to rational, scientific inquiry, forever! :lol

So because belief in a Master Designer going back 100s or 1000s of years, the sheer longevity, wrongness, naivete of your belief makea it right? :lol

[Avante]

:lol wrong forever

:lol evidence free,

not amenable to rational, scientific inquiry, forever! :lol

So because belief in a Master Designer going back 100s or 1000s of years, the sheer longevity, wrongness, naivete of your belief makea it right? :lol

So how come only a tiny % of humans agree with you?

Take out a dollar out of your wallet, what's it's say? Hey, if you have some need to be a dummy go for it. Most people don't play that.

(CNSNews.com) – Atheism is in decline worldwide, with the number of atheists falling from 4.5% of the world’s population in 1970 to 2.0% in 2010 and projected to drop to 1.8% by 2020, according to a new report by the Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in South Hamilton, Mass.

[Avante]

Only total dummies wanna spend their life without any faith in anything. This..."there is nothing"...is so bland, stupid, boring. Look at freaks here who play that, yep....dumb fucks! Look at how they act, they actually chase ya around, hahahaha!!!!

I want and need something more than....bah humbug...as do 97% of all the humans that have ever walked the face of this earth. Total idiots are a very small %.

Yes, I don't buy the Christian God, so what? I do buy a Superior Something, basically the same thing.

[Blake]

Wrong as you always are.

Read chapter 15 in the book..."The Universe and Dr. Einstein"...by Linclon Barnett, which I now hold in my hand.

Dude, are you ever going to figure I'm an avid reader? Or just keep ignoring all things pointing towards that being the case?

Nowhere in that book is there proof of a being outside of this universe.

until proven there's nothing there.

And even if there was, it obviously isn't helping you out, you miserable old fuck.

[Blake]

Only total dummies wanna spend their life without any faith in anything. This..."there is nothing"...is so bland, stupid, boring. Look at freaks here who play that, yep....dumb fucks! Look at how they act, they actually chase ya around, hahahaha!!!!

I want and need something more than....bah humbug...as do 97% of all the humans that have ever walked the face of this earth. Total idiots are a very small %.

Yes, I don't buy the Christian God, so what? I do buy a Superior Something, basically the same thing.

You sound like a little four year old kid that loves to believe in Santa claus because it's fun.

[Avante]

You sound like a little four year old kid that loves to believe in Santa claus because it's fun.

Tell that to the billions and billions and billions who see you as a dumb fuck.

Why are so damn dumb? Breeding?

[Avante]

Ever notice these...bah humbuggers...can't figure everyone sees them as being idiots?

Look at this Blake idiot, is he fucked up or what? A perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Far more of these kinds of people than morons like the Blakes of the world.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qEx3NbGSmg

If a moron like Blake were stand on that podium trying to sell...you're all beleiving in a fantasty....look t how many would shout the faggot down.

[pgardn]

You might have been a fish, I wasn't, ok?

Of course it's tired and you are bored.
You don't know shit about your own post.


And the blues originated in China.

[pgardn]

Science has been totally wrong so many times why bother?

So what realm of human thought has NEVER been wrong you old sack of shit?
What do you fall back on to answer difficult questions about the world around you?
What do you use to understand phenomenon?

You make drivel up. " I know it does not work this way because I said so."
The rest of the world is not comfortable with 'because I said'.

[Avante]

Of course it's tired and you are bored.
You don't know shit about your own post.


And the blues originated in China.

Dude, apathy is setting in, ok?

Them blues originated in the southern states of the USA. A product of the slave situation.

[Avante]

So what realm of human thought has NEVER been wrong you old sack of shit?
What do you fall back on to answer difficult questions about the world around you?
What do you use to understand phenomenon?

You make drivel up. " I know it does not work this way because I said so."
The rest of the world is not comfortable with 'because I said'.

Why this need to be in 2% of the idiots who see things as your faggot ass does? I like having a Superior Being, if you don't, then don't. Like I said, be one of that tiny tiny % who are idiots like you.

Here it is 2015 and nobody has ever proven the non existant of that Supreme Being yet, while science is constantly proven wrong.

[pgardn]

Why this need to be in 2% of the idiots who see things as your faggot ass does? I like having a Superior Being, if you don't, then don't. Like I said, be one of that tiny tiny % who are idiots like you.

Here it is 2015 and nobody has ever proven the non existant of that Supreme Being yet, while science is constantly proven wrong.

Because science has nothing to say about your superior being. Which I personally believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with; you can't be proven wrong using science.

What I take issue with is your mischaracterization of science.
So I say the blues originated in China, because I said so, it's word.

If you ever get ill, call on the superior being before they give you medicine bonehead. Science has been wrong, don't give it a second thought, deny proven treatment. And by the way, I would beat your old ass with your own leg after I ripped it off your torso Fckn child rapist.

[Avante]

Because science has nothing to say about your superior being. Which I personally believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with, there can't be.

What I take issue with is your mischaracterization of science.
So I say the blues originated in China, because I said so, it's word.

If you ever get ill, call on the superior being before they give you medicine bonehead. Science has been wrong, don't give it a second thought, deny proven treatment.

And where did that medicine come from ya fucking idiot? Funny how everything we humans need is right here for us isn't it? Do you think at all before posting ya fucking faggot?

Notice how the sun is the perfect distance? Notice how the nutrients in water..............................

And it goes on and on.

Is this one dumb fuck or what?

[pgardn]

And where did that medicine come from ya fucking idiot? Funny how everything we humans need is right here for us isn't it? Do you think at all before posting ya fucking faggot?

Notice how the sun is the perfect distance? Notice how the nutrients in water..............................

And it goes on and on.

Is this one dumb fuck or what?

Where did the use of medicine come for the use ONLY with certain maladies?
Do you use aspirin to treat hives?
Dumb fck...

[pgardn]

Notice how the sun is the perfect distance? Notice how the nutrients in water..............................

And it goes on and on.

Is this one dumb fuck or what?

So if you pick up a grain of sand on a beach is that a miracle because you happen to pick up just that one and not another?

You are seriously ill.

[Avante]

Where did the use of medicine come for the use ONLY with certain maladies?
Do you use aspirin to treat hives?
Dumb fck...

Went over that pin head of yours didn't it dummy?

[Avante]

So if you pick up a grain of sand on a beach is that a miracle because you happen to pick up just that one and not another?

You are seriously ill.

Seriously ill is wandering around on beachs thinking about grains of sand, ya sick bitch.

[pgardn]

Went over that pin head of yours didn't it dummy?

Stay in the shallow end.
Your argument has NOTHING to do with evolution unless your superior being is directing evolution.

[Avante]

Stay in the shallow end.
Your argument has NOTHING to do with evolution unless your superior being is directing evolution.

Little man, pay attention.

Back about 100 pages ago it was sorta interesting, ok? Now it's all been said, ok? I'm totally/completely/100% bored with it, ok? If you wanna be a fish, cool, be a fish ok? I don't wanna be a fish, ok with you, if not too fucking bad.

[pgardn]

Seriously ill is wandering around on beachs thinking about grains of sand, ya sick bitch.

Line drive over the short stop 'bus'

He never saw it Harry...

[pgardn]

Little man, pay attention.

Back about 100 pages ago it was sorta interesting, ok? Now it's all been said, ok? I'm totally/completely/100% bored with it, ok? If you wanna be a fish, cool, be a fish ok? I don't wanna be a fish, ok with you, if not too fucking bad.

Old Man listen closely.

Dont start threads on subjects you don't know wtf you are writing about.
Ok little guy?

[Avante]

Line drive over the short stop 'bus'

He never saw it Harry...

Ya said something totally idiotic and everyone saw it. Just accept the fact you're a fucking idiot ok? We all see it.

[Avante]

Old Man listen closely.

Dont start threads on subjects you don't know wtf you are writing about.
Ok little guy?

It's like this moron, everyone knows and understands the theory of evolution. The bottom line stupid is that it has holes a mile wide in it, ok? And you know this as does all the idiots who try to peddle it.

I think we saw most those holes exposed in this thread which was why I started it. I don't buy it at all, it's a load of bullshit. If dummies like you can't see the holes in why am I not surprised?

You are obviously too stupid to make a dent, ok? So why not just accept the fact guys like me poke fun at guys like you, and move on.

[pgardn]

It's like this moron, everyone knows and understands the theory of evolution. .

No.
No they don't.

And you certainly don't understand it.

You are speaking of the Earth being exactly the right distance away from the Sun.
WTF does this have to do with evolution?

Now you think you know, but warning, you don't.
Because you have not a clue as to what evolution is in science.
And when you attempt to answer this, you will make a fool of yourself yet again.

[ChumpDumper]

Science has been totally wrong so many times why bother?Because it's pretty awesome when it gets things right. Do you want to live in a cave gathering roots and insects?

No.

Why do you not have to do that anymore?

Science.

You need to apologize to science and thank it for everything it has given you.

[ChumpDumper]

Little man, pay attention.

Back about 100 pages ago it was sorta interesting, ok? Now it's all been said, ok? I'm totally/completely/100% bored with it, ok? If you wanna be a fish, cool, be a fish ok? I don't wanna be a fish, ok with you, if not too fucking bad.So don't post in the evolution thread anymore, dummy.

[pgardn]

Science.

You need to apologize to science and thank it for everything it has given you.

[Avante]

No.
No they don't.

And you certainly don't understand it.

You are speaking of the Earth being exactly the right distance away from the Sun.
WTF does this have to do with evolution?

Now you think you know, but warning, you don't.
Because you have not a clue as to what evolution is in science.
And when you attempt to answer this, you will make a fool of yourself yet again.

Yes, yes they do. Where you got this idea it's some big complex ordeal? It's not at all.

I'll go slow idiot...

I was OBVIOUSLY using the distance from the sun as just another example of a MasterDesign, dude, are you really as dumb as you appear?

I thought Blake was stupid, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[pgardn]

Yes, yes they do. Where you got this idea it's some big complex ordeal? It's not at all.

I'll go slow idiot...

I was OBVIOUSLY using the distance from the sun as just another example of a MasterDesign, dude, are you really as dumb as you appear?

I thought Blake was stupid, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No.
No you don't.

Evolution has nothing to do with a master design Fckn idiot.

Give me your definition of biological evolution.
Now.

I will prove you don't get it. Or that you do.

[Avante]

No.
No you don't.

Evolution has nothing to do with a master design Fckn idiot.

Give me your definition of biological evolution.
Now.

I will prove you don't get it. Or that you do.

Are you simply retarded? Do you really think any MasterDesigner is going to go about it this way? Why?

And, are you kidding me? Faggot you don't tell..NOW..what the fuck are you thinking?

Stupid, where are you getting this totally stupid idea that any kind of evolution is complex? It might be to your dumb ass.

[pgardn]

Are you simply retarded? Do you really think any MasterDesigner is going to go about it this way? Why?

And, are you kidding me? Faggot you don't tell..NOW..what the fuck are you thinking?

Stupid, where are you getting this totally stupid idea that any kind of evolution is complex? It might be to your dumb ass.

Again.

What is your definition of biological evolution since you are so sure it's wrong?

Now get ready to get pummeled.

[Avante]

Again.

What is your definition of biological evolution since you are so sure it's wrong?

Now get ready to get pummeled.

Hmmm?
2. Biologya. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations,often resulting in the development of new species. The mechanisms of evolutioninclude natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, mutation,migration, and genetic drift.

[ChumpDumper]

lol can't even use his own words.

[Avante]

lol can't even use his own words.

Stupid.

I could have posted it a little differently but why? If asked when did Lead Belly die how many ways can ya give out that Info?

What gets me is how can anyone think all that shit isn't readily available? I could learn all I need to know about evolution in what 30 minutes?

[ChumpDumper]

Stupid.

I could have posted it a little differently but why? If asked when did Lead Belly die how many ways can ya give out that Info?

What gets me is how can anyone think all that shit isn't readily available? I could learn all I need to know about evolution in what 30 minutes?What gets me is you think pasting a dictionary definition makes you think you are an expert on evolution.

[pgardn]

Hmmm?
2. Biologya. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations,often resulting in the development of new species. The mechanisms of evolutioninclude natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, mutation,migration, and genetic drift.





So to sum it up. The following can be extracted from your position:

1. You don't believe populations of living things change over time.
2. They may go extinct. Poof.
3. Others somehow appear. Poof. Only the creator can accomplish this.

4. There is no connection between species of organisms.(a basic tenet of Evolution is relatedness)
5. Species are all made by some creator specially on their own distinct from other living things.
6. Its still going on today at the creator's whim. Or has creation stopped?

Feel free to add on or take away from the six above.
Please.

Its so boring for you, you got it all figured out after what you explain as a very simple thing.
So please, help those of us who are awed by the subject to understand how we are missing the simplicity by working with the 6 above.

Please.

[Avante]

So to sum it up. The following can be extracted from your position:

1. You don't believe populations of living things change over time.
2. They may go extinct. Poof.
3. Others somehow appear. Poof. Only the creator can accomplish this.

4. There is no connection between species of organisms.(a basic tenet of Evolution is relatedness)
5. Species are all made by some creator specially on their own distinct from other living things.
6. Its still going on today at the creator's whim. Or has creation stopped?

Feel free to add on or take away from the six above.
Please.

Its so boring for you, you got it all figured out after what you explain as a very simple thing.
So please, help those of us who are awed by the subject to understand how we are missing the simplicity by working with the 6 above.

Please.


You;re boring me amigo.

Answer these.

Too many questions and no answers

It can also be noted that evolutionists only discuss this subject in the broadest terms. If evolution is true, why don’t they give us answers to our many questions?


Where did all the 90-plus elements (iron, barium, calcium, silver, nickel, neon, chlorine, etc.) come from? How was it determined how many bonds each element would have for combining with other elements?
How do you explain the precision in the design of the elements, with increasing numbers of electrons in orbit around the nucleus?
Where did the thousands of compounds we find in the world come from—carbon dioxide, sodium chloride, calcium hydroxide, hydrochloric acid, oxalic acid, chlorophyll, sucrose, hydrogen sulfide, benzene, aluminum silicate, mercaptans, propane, silicon dioxide, boric acid, etc.? They could not have developed from the elements, because elements rarely react with each other. For example, did all the salt in the ocean form by sodium reacting with chlorine (a gas)? Therefore almost all compounds had to have been created as compounds. When did all the compounds we find in the world develop—before the big bang, during the big bang, after the big bang? When evolutionists use the term “matter,” which of the thousands of compounds is included? When evolutionists use the term “primordial soup,” which of the elements and compounds is included?
Why do books on evolution, including grade school, high school and college textbooks, not include such important, basic information? Evolutionists are masters of speculation; why don’t they speculate about this?

[ChumpDumper]

copypasta from a creationist site is boring.

[mouse]

Mouse.

Got you on Ignore.


You want me to look at the post? I will. If it has any misrepresentations of evolution like the rest of you fruit cakes I will make it small bits.

If it's just a general insult, no comment.
that's ok as long as others can see how you and your misguided Darwin supporters avoid the hard questions and facts it's all good.

[mouse]

copypasta from a creationist site is boring.

not able to respond or debunk the copy and paste is entertaining.

[ChumpDumper]

not able to respond or debunk the copy and paste is entertaining.I did respond.

There is nothing to debunk.

[mouse]

I did respond.

There is nothing to debunk.

So then you admit to design?

[ChumpDumper]

So then you admit to design?My response is no.

You seem to think that uncertainty disproves science. Uncertainty is the reason there is science.

Simply ascribing everything to "God did it" is lazy and would have left you in a cave eating bugs.

[pgardn]

You;re boring me amigo.

Answer these.

Too many questions and no answers

It can also be noted that evolutionists only discuss this subject in the broadest terms. If evolution is true, why don’t they give us answers to our many questions?


Where did all the 90-plus elements (iron, barium, calcium, silver, nickel, neon, chlorine, etc.) come from? How was it determined how many bonds each element would have for combining with other elements?
How do you explain the precision in the design of the elements, with increasing numbers of electrons in orbit around the nucleus?
Where did the thousands of compounds we find in the world come from—carbon dioxide, sodium chloride, calcium hydroxide, hydrochloric acid, oxalic acid, chlorophyll, sucrose, hydrogen sulfide, benzene, aluminum silicate, mercaptans, propane, silicon dioxide, boric acid, etc.? They could not have developed from the elements, because elements rarely react with each other. For example, did all the salt in the ocean form by sodium reacting with chlorine (a gas)? Therefore almost all compounds had to have been created as compounds. When did all the compounds we find in the world develop—before the big bang, during the big bang, after the big bang? When evolutionists use the term “matter,” which of the thousands of compounds is included? When evolutionists use the term “primordial soup,” which of the elements and compounds is included?
Why do books on evolution, including grade school, high school and college textbooks, not include such important, basic information? Evolutionists are masters of speculation; why don’t they speculate about this?



Biological evolution does not cover the Big Bang you old dork.

Quit changing the question.
Biological evolution simply deals with life once it was present.


You want to know what was before the Big Bang? Science can't answer that.
Science can attempt to answer how the first self replicating molecules arose that used energy and material from the environment. (This is a possible definition of life) So far biochemical evolution has not made it clear exactly how cellular life arose. We have some ideas, but no it's not entirely clear at all and may never be. We do have some very good ideas how the first chemical elements arose AFTER the Big Bang.

The above is the current state of things.

So NOW answer one question concerning biological evolution

Do you believe populations of living things change over time?

[mouse]

My response is no.

No because your worried you may come across as being another misguided poster at ST or No, because your not going up on your stubborn ways you have invested to much of your life on no matter how foolish they may make you look.




You seem to think that uncertainty disproves science. Uncertainty is the reason there is science.

You seem to think unproven theories proves science. I thought Science was based on "facts"
what facts prove we evolved from snails?







Simply ascribing everything to "God did it" is lazy and would have left you in a cave eating bugs.

When did I mention God?

Dude make another coffee (not decaf) your not talking to another Club Creationist.

[pgardn]

Biological evolution does not cover the Big Bang you old dork.

Quit changing the question.
Biological evolution simply deals with life once it was present.


You want to know what was before the Big Bang? Science can't answer that.
Science can attempt to answer how the first self replicating molecules arose that used energy and material from the environment. (This is a possible definition of life) So far biochemical evolution has not made it clear exactly how cellular life arose. We have some ideas, but no it's not entirely clear at all and may never be. We do have some very good ideas how the first chemical elements arose AFTER the Big Bang.

The above is the current state of things.

So NOW answer one question concerning biological evolution

Do you believe populations of living things change over time?


I will leave it up.

[mouse]

Biological evolution does not cover the Big Bang you old dork.




The Biological Big Bang model for the major transitions in evolution.

Major transitions in biological evolution show the same pattern of sudden emergence of diverse forms at a new level of complexity. The relationships between major groups within an emergent new class of biological entities are hard to decipher and do not seem to fit the tree pattern that, following Darwin's original proposal, remains the dominant description of biological evolution. The cases in point include the origin of complex RNA molecules and protein folds; major groups of viruses; archaea and bacteria, and the principal lineages within each of these prokaryotic domains; eukaryotic supergroups; and animal phyla. In each of these pivotal nexuses in life's history, the principal "types" seem to appear rapidly and fully equipped with the signature features of the respective new level of biological organization. No intermediate "grades" or intermediate forms between different types are detectable. Usually, this pattern is attributed to cladogenesis compressed in time, combined with the inevitable erosion of the phylogenetic signal.



Incredible Evolutionary “Big Bang” Supports Darwin’s Theory
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Scientists think evolutionary Big Bang is supported by Darwin

A brand new research study, conducted by a group of Adelaide scientists, suggests that there was an incredible acceleration in the rate of evolution, some 580 million years ago. This was likely to have occurred during the “Cambrian explosion,” a period in time when many collections of modern animals rapidly materialized. These findings seem to support the notion of an evolutionary “Big Bang,” a process which, according to the latest research efforts, seems consistent with Darwin’s theory of evolution.