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Thebesteva
08-19-2014, 02:32 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11374705&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.googl e.com%2F%22%7D

1) Harden
2) Wade
3) Ellis
4) Butler
5) Waiters



:lol Harden

Malik Hairston
08-19-2014, 02:38 PM
He's by far the best SG in the league, it's not even close, tbh, but that's mostly a product of the SG position being so awful the past few years..

Pelicans78
08-19-2014, 02:38 PM
Stats wise you can make a case, mostly due to the amount of FTs he gets. Plus, SG is very weak now.

Chris
08-19-2014, 02:39 PM
Sorry, but right now Ellis > Wade

ElNono
08-19-2014, 02:44 PM
I'm more shocked at Wade at #2...

RD2191
08-19-2014, 02:49 PM
Is DG top 10? Do any of those guys even play defense? Besides Butler I mean.

Malik Hairston
08-19-2014, 02:49 PM
I haven't ranked them or anything, but without looking at names, I bet there's a possibility that the #2 SG in the league, whoever it is, isn't even a top 50 player in the league:lol..

Holden_Caulfield
08-19-2014, 03:21 PM
wow the sg pool is so shitty

Dex
08-19-2014, 03:51 PM
Stats wise you can make a case, mostly due to the amount of FTs he gets. Plus, SG is very weak now.

That list just goes to show how truly weak the 2 spot is in the league right now.

SupremeGuy
08-19-2014, 04:03 PM
The SG pool is so shitty right now that Wade is number 2 :lol

Double-Up
08-19-2014, 04:21 PM
A lot of current PG's could be considered SG's like D-Rose and Westbrook.

SPM
08-19-2014, 04:31 PM
I'd take Ellis on my team over Harden anyday.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
08-19-2014, 04:34 PM
Did Manu make the top 10?

Edit: Hell yea, #9 ahead of Stephenson :lol

RsxPiimp
08-19-2014, 04:54 PM
Kobe isn't in the Top 10?:lol

Pelicans78
08-19-2014, 04:56 PM
I think DeRozan could have a strong case at number two just based on last season. And I think he's overrated.

~O~
08-19-2014, 06:41 PM
Stack power forwards and small forwards these days.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
08-19-2014, 06:46 PM
I think DeRozan could have a strong case at number two just based on last season. And I think he's overrated.

:lmao

DAF86
08-19-2014, 08:31 PM
When the chips are down I might still take 37 years old Manu over any of those guys, tbh. Not even being a homer here.

Monta isn't a top 3 SG in the league, c'mon now. Stephenson should be a lot higher.

jimbo
08-19-2014, 09:55 PM
:lol Wiggins gonna be top 3 after one season.

I agree that Lance should be higher up a bit, but mostly cause everyone else sucks.

jimbo
08-19-2014, 10:00 PM
Is DG top 10? Do any of those guys even play defense? Besides Butler I mean.

He's 13th

and ... I guess Klay Thompson?

and I didn't realize they were using a projected WARP to do their rankings. Yeah, I guess I can see how some of these make sense if WARP doesn't normalize for usage, or if usage scales favorably for high usage players. (Never looked at the formula) I don't even have a clue how their projected WARP works.

DMC
08-19-2014, 10:34 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11374705&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.googl e.com%2F%22%7D

1) Harden
2) Wade
3) Ellis
4) Butler
5) Waiters



:lol Harden
How did Kori get in there?

Kidd K
08-19-2014, 10:50 PM
Look at the rest of the list. It's full of mediocre and overrated guards.

Harden is clearly the top SG. . .and tbh it's not even close. #2 is way below Harden in overall usefulness

apalisoc_9
08-19-2014, 11:10 PM
:lol@waiters

Harden



Wade


Ellis

Manu

Green

Butler

Baseline
08-20-2014, 01:45 AM
Wait...isn't K. Bryant the greatest player in the world, Laker fans?

Why he ain't on the list?

Indazone
08-20-2014, 02:34 AM
Kobe will surprise us all. He'll come back and light up the league. Watch for that first game between the Lakers and Rockets cause I think Kobe gonna light up Harden

MolaMola790
08-20-2014, 02:37 AM
is the nba that hard up?

King Emmanuel
08-20-2014, 02:38 AM
Kobe will surprise us all. He'll come back and light up the league. Watch for that first game between the Lakers and Rockets cause I think Kobe gonna light up Harden

youre damn right he will.. watch kobe put up 25/5/5 on high percentages

Ghazi
08-20-2014, 03:24 AM
Id still put Manu in the top 5 by default, probably only behind Harden and Wade tbh..

djohn2oo8
08-20-2014, 06:38 AM
Kobe will surprise us all. He'll come back and light up the league. Watch for that first game between the Lakers and Rockets cause I think Kobe gonna light up Harden

Due to being the most annoying poster on this board, you should consider running out and playing in midday traffic as a viable option.

wanggi
08-20-2014, 07:03 AM
Just ranks him among all of NBA players, he would be ranked #40.

Killakobe81
08-20-2014, 08:15 AM
Id still put Manu in the top 5 by default, probably only behind Harden and Wade tbh..

Im with Ghazi and even Wade's place is sketchy ...Ellis under RC should be definite top 5 the ellis Dirk pnr is filthy

Buddy Mignon
08-20-2014, 09:59 AM
Too bad he won't be starting in the All-Star game.

Brazil
08-20-2014, 10:11 AM
I'd put my nigga Green in the top 5 tbh

Indazone
08-20-2014, 11:32 AM
Due to being the most annoying poster on this board, you should consider running out and playing in midday traffic as a viable option.

lol only to you. I"m a realist...you not so much.

Raven
08-20-2014, 11:38 AM
Wait...isn't K. Bryant the greatest player in the world, Laker fans?

Why he ain't on the list?

kobe johnson tbh

Kamnik
08-20-2014, 01:03 PM
As Bledsoe or Thomas will be the starting PG on the Suns Dragič is a SG by default.

Meaning.... Dragič > Harden


And yeah.... SG position is extremely weak nowadays so it doesn't mean a lot to be the best SG.

Franklin
08-20-2014, 11:10 PM
Too bad he won't be starting in the All-Star game.
Yup, that's because he's no longer Rin's teammate tbh.

Malik Hairston
08-21-2014, 12:03 AM
As Bledsoe or Thomas will be the starting PG on the Suns Dragič is a SG by default.

Meaning.... Dragič > Harden


And yeah.... SG position is extremely weak nowadays so it doesn't mean a lot to be the best SG.

Dragic is much more of a PG than Bledsoe, tbh..I think everybody views Dragic as Phoenix's PG..

TDMVPDPOY
08-21-2014, 04:29 AM
monte should be first imo...

harden is nothing more then a scrub who relies on refs

Venti Quattro
08-21-2014, 08:35 AM
He is, but because Manu, Kobe are on their way to retirement

djohn2oo8
08-21-2014, 09:11 AM
Dragic is much more of a PG than Bledsoe, tbh..I think everybody views Dragic as Phoenix's PG..


There's no way they keep both Dragic and Bledsoe. And Thomas.

Venti Quattro
08-21-2014, 09:14 AM
There's no way they keep both Dragic and Bledsoe. And Thomas.

Thomas is the odd man out

AaronY
08-21-2014, 09:52 AM
This is all based on projected WARP so its like a stats/math thing

djohn2oo8
08-21-2014, 10:02 AM
Thomas is the odd man out

They just signed him. Can he be traded this early?

RsxPiimp
08-21-2014, 10:04 AM
They just signed him. Can he be traded this early?

Nope. Thomas stays IMO, Bledsoe will get traded.

namlook
08-22-2014, 03:00 AM
Kobe isn't in the Top 10?:lol

Tony Parker is not a top 10 PG either! :lol

PG:
1. Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers
2. Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
4. John Wall, Washington Wizards
5. Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
6. Kyle Lowry, Toronto Raptors
7. Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
8. Mike Conley, Memphis Grizzlies
9. Ricky Rubio, Minnesota Timberwolves
10. Ty Lawson, Denver Nuggets