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waly.mg
08-22-2005, 04:07 PM
This year we can stand a few minutes that team
PG: Beno Udrih
SG/SF: Manu Ginobili
SF/SG: Brent Barry
PF: Fabricio Oberto
C: Rasho Nesterovic
which was the last team in having at the same time in field 5 white players?
ChumpDumper
08-22-2005, 04:08 PM
The Washington Generals.
spurschick
08-22-2005, 04:09 PM
*grabbing popcorn... waiting for the show to start*
waly.mg
08-22-2005, 04:10 PM
How many years?
ChumpDumper
08-22-2005, 04:11 PM
All of them.
Mixability
08-22-2005, 04:12 PM
This year we can stand a few minutes that team
PG: Beno Udrih
SG/SF: Manu Ginobili
SF/SG: Brent Barry
PF: Fabricio Oberto
C: Rasho Nesterovic
which was the last team in having at the same time in field 5 white players?
colorwise? eh, because I wouldn't classify Manu or Fabri white racewise.
smeagol
08-22-2005, 04:14 PM
colorwise? eh, because I wouldn't classify Manu or Fabri white racewise.
Christ, not again! :depressed
spurschick
08-22-2005, 04:17 PM
*enter the Argentine Mafia*
waly.mg
08-22-2005, 04:21 PM
Do you preffer: No one black in the field
But don´t worry smeagol
We born in American Continent, but we aren´t americans
Now, we aren´t white
If we aren´t white, the only whites are the blondes like Beno or Rasho
And Steve Nash isn´t White, and nor Roger Federer and the others
smeagol
08-22-2005, 04:22 PM
*enter the Argentine Mafia*
This has nothing to do with the Argie mafia or the Church of Manu, it has to do with general knowledge. If you don't understand that Manu and Oberto are white, then you need to hit the books.
Ginofan
08-22-2005, 04:23 PM
*enter the Argentine Mafia*
:lol This brings me back to the Trinity convo we had...lol
samikeyp
08-22-2005, 04:24 PM
We born in American Continent, but we aren´t americans
doesn't that make you South Americans? :)
Does it really matter what race Oberto and Manu are? I don't give a rat's ass if they are white, green, yellow or red as long as they can play well.... besides, the only colors that matter are Silver and Black. :tu
spurschick
08-22-2005, 04:25 PM
This has nothing to do with the Argie mafia or the Church of Manu, it has to do with general knowledge. If you don't understand that Manu and Oberto are white, then you need to hit the books.
I was making a joke - I think the whole discussion of race is ridiculous. The color of one's skin doesn't dictate whether they'll be good at basketball, or anything else for that matter.
picnroll
08-22-2005, 04:26 PM
Some threads are just born to be stupid.
Spurminator
08-22-2005, 04:28 PM
Rodney White would be a decent and cheap addition to the bench, I completely agree.
mcornelio
08-22-2005, 04:31 PM
i understand that things can get pretty slow in the offseason but jeez... is this the type of discussion that we have stooped down to? having white players? / whos white and whos not
waly.mg
08-22-2005, 04:31 PM
doesn't that make you South Americans? :)
Does it really matter what race Oberto and Manu are? I don't give a rat's ass if they are white, green, yellow or red as long as they can play well.... besides, the only colors that matter are Silver and Black. :tu
Okey that´s good, you are the americans and we are "Los americanos"
Ginobili is a Italian Last Name like too much "americans"
msufan420
08-22-2005, 04:36 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b247/msufan420/powell.jpg
Mixability
08-22-2005, 04:49 PM
Christ, not again! :depressed
white is just a generalization of a bunch of nationalities, but i would rather not classify Gino or Fabri as white, get over it, my opinion, not yours, move on.
MaNuMaNiAc
08-22-2005, 04:53 PM
*fighting the urge to respond to some of the dumbass comments in this thread*http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_29.gif
smeagol
08-22-2005, 04:59 PM
white is just a generalization of a bunch of nationalities,
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Dude, are you serious? White defines nationalities? As I said before, hit the books.
but i would rather not classify Gino or Fabri as white
Why would you not classify them as white, which is what they obviously are?
They are both Argentines of Italian decent (their fathers, grandfathers or most probably great grandfathers were born in Italy).
My wife was born in Argentina but her four grandparents were born in Britain. She is as white as it gets. But according to you, she does not qualify as white.
get over it, my opinion, not yours, move on.
Like assholes, everyone has one. But you seem to be clueless on the subject.
smeagol
08-22-2005, 05:00 PM
*fighting the urge to respond to some of the dumbass comments in this thread*http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_29.gif
The funny thing is we had a multi-page thread on this subject not so long ago :depressed
Mixability
08-22-2005, 05:05 PM
the thread starter, i believe, is basically trying to define an all-white team, which I believe Manu wouldn't "qualify" by most peoples definitions. Do you seriously think Manu describes himself as "white" and not Argentinian? I think that Americans use the white term to loosely describe someone who isn't Mexican, Black, Asian, Native American, or any other ethnicity. Overseas, they are described basically by nationality, for example Russian, Italian, etc. Am I wrong? If so, correct me before you attack me.
Kori Ellis
08-22-2005, 05:09 PM
Refer to this thread for further ridiculous arguments on the white vs hispanic vs latin vs Tex Mex vs real Mexican food :)
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22654&highlight=ginobili+hispanic
GoSpurs21
08-22-2005, 05:12 PM
chalk this thread and all of the stupid responces to a serious waste of time
if its important to you to put lables on people to justify your beliefs then you need to get over yourself
ZStomp
08-22-2005, 05:13 PM
I think this happened last year very few times. But I remember watching some games and thinking put in all the non-black playas!! It could have happened.
ALVAREZ6
08-22-2005, 05:21 PM
Danyo, just listen to Smeagol on this one.
Where are most Argentines' ancestors from? Europe.
Where are most of any "american" white person's ancestors from? Europe.
ALVAREZ6
08-22-2005, 05:26 PM
Do you seriously think Manu describes himself as "white" and not Argentinian?
Argentinian explains WHERE he is from. It's his nationality, not race.
I think that Americans use the white term to loosely describe someone who isn't Mexican, Black, Asian, Native American, or any other ethnicity.
Manu is none of those.
The bottom line is, all of Manu's and Fabri's ancestors are from Europe, and they had white colored skin.
What's your deffinition of white?
Mixability
08-22-2005, 05:29 PM
Why would you not classify them as white, which is what they obviously are?
Obviously? Hmm, then I wonder why there's so much arguing going on....
Let me simplify (dumb it down) for you. I would rather not call someone just white, I would rather call them Argentinian or Russian or Italian, get it?
My wife was born in Argentina but her four grandparents were born in Britain. She is as white as it gets. But according to you, she does not qualify as white.
I wouldn't want to just "throw her in the white pool", I'd rather show her the respect to her heritage and call her either British or Argentinian, whichever she prefers...
Truce?
danyel
08-22-2005, 05:30 PM
Rodney White would be a decent and cheap addition to the bench, I completely agree.
I concur. I thought this was about Rodney White too...
samikeyp
08-22-2005, 05:31 PM
I wouldn't want to just "throw her in the white pool", I'd rather show her the respect to her heritage and call her either British or Argentinian, whichever she prefers...
what if she prefers "white"?
Mixability
08-22-2005, 05:33 PM
what if she prefers "white"?
so be it, but i for one would prefer to be called Italian, or Russian, or something more specific. But to each his own.
Kori Ellis
08-22-2005, 05:35 PM
People really need to get over this subject.
The original starter of thread wasn't trying to start a race war. He was just saying - hey look - the Spurs could have five guys with white skin on the floor on the same time this season -- which is unusual in the NBA. So stop getting into a whole melodramatic, semi-political, race relations discussion.
It was just a comment. It would be like me starting a thread saying -- Wow, the Spurs have five guys with green eyes that could play at the same time this year (if that were true). Or saying -- Hey look, the Celtics have five redheads.
It's just a category of a physical attribute - white skin. Get over it.
Kori Ellis
08-22-2005, 05:36 PM
And to answer the original question in this thread, I think the Jazz have had five guys on the floor with white skin at the same time pretty often over the years.
samikeyp
08-22-2005, 05:40 PM
It would give me a chance to bring back the "white boy brigade" cheer from the early 90's! In those rare times when Zarko, Brick and Uwe Blab were on the floor...Uwe...talk about your human victory cigar! :)
Mixability
08-22-2005, 05:57 PM
:shootme
spurschick
08-22-2005, 06:49 PM
It would be like me starting a thread saying -- Wow, the Spurs have five guys with green eyes that could play at the same time this year (if that were true). Or saying -- Hey look, the Celtics have five redheads.
:lol How about 5 redheads with green eyes, buck teeth, and six toes on their left foot... now THAT would be unique!
exstatic
08-22-2005, 07:12 PM
colorwise? eh, because I wouldn't classify Manu or Fabri white racewise.
Not sure about Oberto, but Manu is of Italian stock, even though he lives in an Hispanic country. I've always considered Italians "white".
spurschick
08-22-2005, 07:20 PM
Not sure about Oberto, but Manu is of Italian stock, even though he lives in an Hispanic country.
I don't care if the dude is from freakin' Mars! He's awesome! :elephant
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
08-22-2005, 07:31 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/nikov82/AwJeezNotThisSheetAgain1.jpg
Lol, waly didn't mean to start any controversy, he just pointed out a curious fact. Full stop.
MaNuMaNiAc
08-22-2005, 07:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/nikov82/AwJeezNotThisSheetAgain1.jpg
Lol, waly didn't mean to start any controversy, he just pointed out a curious fact. Full stop.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_12_6.gif
Wtf!?
BARRY'S NOT WHITE!!!!! :pctoss
:lol
ObiwanGinobili
08-22-2005, 08:41 PM
*grabbing popcorn... waiting for the show to start*
i'll join you.......... :angel
smeagol
08-22-2005, 09:13 PM
Obviously? Hmm, then I wonder why there's so much arguing going on....
There is so much arguing because the only one supporting your side of the argument is yourself. If you just say, "I made a mistake, Manu and Fabri are white" then the argument is over.
Let me simplify (dumb it down) for you.
Dumb it up, dumb it down, do whatever you want. Your argument is still flawed.
I would rather not call someone just white, I would rather call them Argentinian or Russian or Italian, get it?
And what the fuck has this to do with the "Manu is not white" statement you posted earlier?
Do you understand the differnece between race and nationality?
A guy from Russia is a Russian but he can also be white. Same thing is true for a guy from Argentina (Manu's case), Perú, Chile, Mexico, etc. You can even be from the Congo, Kenya or Uganda and still be white.
I wouldn't want to just "throw her in the white pool", I'd rather show her the respect to her heritage and call her either British or Argentinian, whichever she prefers...
Now I will dumb it down for you: Would you say Robert de Niro, Tony Danza, Al Pacino (Huuaa!), Rudolph Guiliani, Joe Montana, Mario Andretti, Jennifer Capriati, Sofia Loren, Marisa Tomei, Fracis Ford Coppola, Joe Pesci, Henry Mancini, Lou Costello, Dan Marino, Leonardo Di Caprio, Sly Stallone, Paul and Mia Sorvino, Lou Ferrigno (the Incredible Hulk), John Travolta, Alyssa Milano (mega babe!), the Fondas, Lee Iacocca, Vinnie Testaverde, Jay Leno, Liza Minnelli, Martin Scorsese and Frank Sinatra are all what race? . . . white?
BINGO! Same logic applies to Manu and Oberto. Italians migrating to the US and having kids produced the people in my list above. Italians migrating to Argentina and procreating produced Manu, Oberto and millions of other WHITE Argentines descendants from Italians.
Truce?
Sure.
smeagol
08-22-2005, 09:13 PM
Sorry Kori, its the offseason. Not much to argue about. :spin
Mixability
08-22-2005, 09:22 PM
i give up, i try to dumb it down and smeagol still doesn't get what i'm trying to say, I said that I, emphasis on the I, wouldn't consider Manu or Fabri white, I don't care what you would call them, I I I I I, get it yet? I wouldn't, you would, get over it, I hope you don't really think you would convince me other wise? if so, sigh...
Kori Ellis
08-22-2005, 09:22 PM
Sorry Kori, its the offseason. Not much to argue about. :spin
Oh I wouldn't really mind the topic, if I hadn't read it all already. We just rehashed it for countless pages in the "hispanic" thread not long ago. Maybe a new senseless topic would make good reading. Go start one ;)
SequSpur
08-22-2005, 09:22 PM
The Spurs have to many white guys and not enough brothas who can dunk emphatically.
Pop hates black ballas.
smeagol
08-22-2005, 09:40 PM
i give up, i try to dumb it down and smeagol still doesn't get what i'm trying to say, I said that I, emphasis on the I, wouldn't consider Manu or Fabri white, I don't care what you would call them, I I I I I, get it yet? I wouldn't, you would, get over it, I hope you don't really think you would convince me other wise? if so, sigh...
Don't worry Danyo, I give up too. You have an opinion, I have come up with many arguments to prove you wrong, but you are way to stubborn to admit your mistake.
I guess my last point would be: Manu's skin is fucking white. Oberto skin is also f-u-c-k-i-n-g- w-h-i-t-e (there I have dumb it down again, just so you can get it). That's why they are white. Anybody with half a brain can see it.
But if it makes you feel better, call them yellow, or red.
smeagol
08-22-2005, 09:46 PM
Maybe a new senseless topic would make good reading. Go start one ;)
Don't tempt me Kori, I can come up with some lame ass topics when bullied :lol
I was thinking about starting a poll: Is Manu white? Yes or No. :spin
Mixability
08-22-2005, 09:49 PM
Don't worry Danyo, I give up too. You have an opinion, I have come up with many arguments to prove you wrong, but you are way to stubborn to admit your mistake.
I guess my last point would be: Manu's skin is fucking white. Oberto skin is also f-u-c-k-i-n-g- w-h-i-t-e (there I have dumb it down again, just so you can get it). That's why they are white. Anybody with half a brain can see it.
But if it makes you feel better, call them yellow, or red.
What mistake? How can I argue against what I think? Didn't I say that I wouldn't call him white? I never said he isn't white, I never said that he shouldn't be classified as white, I said that I wouldn't classify him as white, in my mind, get it now? I'm not blind, I know he's white based on color. He can also be mistaken for hispanic, latino, etc. Agree on that?
This is just a difference of opinion. Just like I can say Chevy is better than Ford and you can say otherwise, its just preference. I hope you understand now, cause I'm getting tired of you trying to convince me to view Manu as an everyday, average white guy.
Sheesh, what kind of fans did Manu bring with him from Argentina!?!?!
:shootme
Dre_7
08-22-2005, 09:50 PM
Racist Forum
:lmao :lmao
When you have gig callin you racist, you got issues. :lol
smeagol
08-22-2005, 09:55 PM
Racist Forum
Damn GIG, you started posting a year after me and you already have more posts!
spurschick
08-22-2005, 10:05 PM
Sheesh, what kind of fans did Manu bring with him from Argentina!?!?!
:shootme
5...4...3...2...1...
smeagol
08-22-2005, 10:06 PM
What mistake? How can I argue against what I think?
The fact that this is what you think does not make it right. You might "think" the current president is Bill Clinton, and it would be a mistake.
Didn't I say that I wouldn't call him white? I never said he isn't white, I never said that he shouldn't be classified as white, I said that I wouldn't classify him as white, in my mind, get it now?
Cute way of trying to wiggle out of your stupidity.
I'm not blind, I know he's white based on color. He can also be mistaken for hispanic, latino, etc. Agree on that?
Manu is Latino and he is white. Can you get that through your thick skull?
This is just a difference of opinion. Just like I can say Chevy is better than Ford and you can say otherwise, its just preference.
No.
I hope you understand now, cause I'm getting tired of you trying to convince me to view Manu as an everyday, average white guy.
I don't really give a fuck if you are getting tired. And by the way, whet the fuck is an "average white guy". Must you have sterotypes for everything?
Sheesh, what kind of fans did Manu bring with him from Argentina!?!?!
:shootme
Manu brought fans that can bring diversity to the forum.
SequSpur
08-22-2005, 10:08 PM
Manu is tan. Rasho, Beno and Barry are white.
Mixability
08-22-2005, 10:09 PM
5...4...3...2...1...
and he took the bait! :lol
spurschick
08-22-2005, 10:09 PM
:lol Anybody want to go on manuginobili.com and ask him if he thinks he's white?
Mixability
08-22-2005, 10:10 PM
Manu is tan. Rasho, Beno and Barry are white.
you know what i'm saying, you're my savior. i was trying to go the crayola white route, but this guy wanted to throw in the race issue.
SequSpur
08-22-2005, 10:12 PM
Manu is a good shooter, so he must be white, however, he plays like a hot dog, so he must be black and from the hood.... He speaks spanish, so he must be a mexican, however, he isn't, so he is just tan.
Mixability
08-22-2005, 10:14 PM
Manu is a good shooter, so he must be white, however, he plays like a hot dog, so he must be black and from the hood.... He speaks spanish, so he must be a mexican, however, he isn't, so he is just tan.
:rollin
a tan white guy, so I guess thats why GiG likes Manu!
spurschick
08-22-2005, 10:21 PM
Now he's green...
http://www.spurschick.com/greenmanu.jpg
Let it go.
Mixability
08-22-2005, 10:34 PM
Now he's green...
http://www.spurschick.com/greenmanu.jpg
Let it go.
a whitish green?
:lol
ok i'm done...
gameFACE
08-22-2005, 10:36 PM
I don't think it has anything to do with the color of their skin. It's the size of their nostrils.
zeleni
08-23-2005, 02:02 AM
I protest!
Beno is European and not white!
And Rasho... well he is as white as it gets, but he is from the Balkans, and not from Europe.
Now get me a guy that says: Brent Barry is Chinese!
Horry For 3!
08-23-2005, 02:09 AM
This year we can stand a few minutes that team
PG: Beno Udrih
SG/SF: Manu Ginobili
SF/SG: Brent Barry
PF: Fabricio Oberto
C: Rasho Nesterovic
which was the last team in having at the same time in field 5 white players?
I have no idea.
boutons
08-23-2005, 02:28 AM
"which was the last team in having at the same time in field 5 white players?"
Probably back in the 1960's, or maybe even late 1950s.
I agree with Spurminator, Rodney White would be a good addition. For some extra beef I think the Spurs should go after Jahidi White too :)
As for the actual question, I think Kori was pretty close, but I'll go for the 2001 Sacramento Kings as being the most likely to have had this happen.
In 2003 the Utah Jazz had -- John Stockton, Andrei Kirelenko, Greg Ostertag, Matt Harpring, Scott Padgett, it's possible those 5 could of been on court at the same time.
In 2004 they had -- Andrei Kirlenko, Matt Harpring, Curtis Borchadt. Ben Handlogten, Gordan Giricek, Aleksander Pavlovic, Greg Ostertag and Tom Gugliotta. Once again, possible that a combo of 5 of those players saw the court at the same time.
In 2001 the Sacramento Kings had -- Peja Stojakovic, Jason Williams, Vlade Divac, Jon Barry, Scott Pollard, Hedo Turkoglu. Pretty likely a combo of those 6 saw the court at the same time at some point.
smeagol
08-23-2005, 06:42 AM
you know what i'm saying, you're my savior. i was trying to go the crayola white route, but this guy wanted to throw in the race issue.
When Sequ is your savior because he agrees with you, then you know you must be right! :lol
Dre_7
08-23-2005, 07:42 AM
Damn GIG, you started posting a year after me and you already have more posts!
Yeah but dont feel bad about it. He posts in the Quattro thread, so you gotta take it with a grain of salt.
Summers
08-23-2005, 07:46 AM
*belatedly joins SC and Obi on the couch with popcorn*
Now Manu is green of white descent?
And Dex brings up an excellent point: Barry's not white; he's Jewish!
But the most insulting comment of all was that Beno's blonde. Hmph! That's a slap to those of us who are real... Oh, wait... nevermind.
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 08:00 AM
* this is great popcorn girls *
ya know, I think I would prefer an eggplant purple Manu.........
also- do we count Pop as white? or can we call him Red? You don't even need photoshop for that one either.. his righteous anger is more than enough to bring on the change. 3 turnovers and tada!! bingo! 1 redder then red Pop.
Summers
08-23-2005, 08:17 AM
* this is great popcorn girls *
ya know, I think I would prefer an eggplant purple Manu.........
also- do we count Pop as white? or can we call him Red? You don't even need photoshop for that one either.. his righteous anger is more than enough to bring on the change. 3 turnovers and tada!! bingo! 1 redder then red Pop.
:lol Good point! Plus the whole Russian studies thing... it works!
If we're going to start referring to the players in terms of food colors, I claim that tall mocha guy in the middle. :)
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 08:21 AM
:lol Good point! Plus the whole Russian studies thing... it works!
If we're going to start referring to the players in terms of food colors, I claim that tall mocha guy in the middle. :)
oh yes. thats some definate mocha. :tu (dirty one liner about licking his foam......nah! I won't say it)
Summers
08-23-2005, 08:24 AM
oh yes. thats some definate mocha. :tu (dirty one liner about licking his foam......nah! I won't say it)
:oops I actually gasped when I read that. :lol
See, I wish I could think of something for you, but almond bark doesn't have the same sensuality to it...
:lmao
Kamnik
08-23-2005, 08:28 AM
People really need to get over this subject.
The original starter of thread wasn't trying to start a race war. He was just saying - hey look - the Spurs could have five guys with white skin on the floor on the same time this season -- which is unusual in the NBA. So stop getting into a whole melodramatic, semi-political, race relations discussion.
It was just a comment. It would be like me starting a thread saying -- Wow, the Spurs have five guys with green eyes that could play at the same time this year (if that were true). Or saying -- Hey look, the Celtics have five redheads.
It's just a category of a physical attribute - white skin. Get over it.
WORD!
i wanted to write the same thing!
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 08:28 AM
almond bark
:lol now that is cold lady! cold. :lol
I'm thinking creme brulee........ yeah, I'd like to crack his shell..... :angel
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 08:31 AM
**Throws more fire***
So is Tony Parker, White, Black, French, or Belgin? :angel
Summers
08-23-2005, 08:31 AM
I'm thinking creme brulee........ yeah, I'd like to crack his shell..... :angel
Ooh... that's a good one... now I'm thinking raspberry sauce on top....
Totally off-topic... Great movie line from My Best Friend's Wedding: Creme brulee can never be jello! :lol
Summers
08-23-2005, 08:32 AM
**Throws more fire***
So is Tony Parker, White, Black, French, or Belgin? :angel
I believe the French would refer to him as cafe au lait. :) (Plus it goes with the whole food theme).
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:32 AM
**Throws more fire***
So is Tony Parker, White, Black, French, or Belgin? :angel
Beno isnt white...he's clear
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 08:36 AM
Beno isnt white...he's clear
??
So is Tony Parker, White, Black, French, or Belgin
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:37 AM
I dont know i just felt like it
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:37 AM
Oh so 1p1 your from Philly?
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 08:39 AM
Oh so 1p1 your from Philly?
Did the "Phillygirl" under my screenname give me away? :lol
nkdlunch
08-23-2005, 08:39 AM
:lmao at this thread. I thought it was a free agent thread for Jahidi White!!
Is Waly really a writer for www.castefootball.us???
this thread sucks
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:42 AM
Did the "Phillygirl" under my screenname give me away? :lol
something like that.....so do yall really have the statue of Sylvester Stallone up on the steps of the museum?
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:43 AM
:lmao at this thread. I thought it was a free agent thread for Jahidi White!!
Is Waly really a writer for www.castefootball.us???
this thread sucks
Hey....wuts happpeninnnn
Summers
08-23-2005, 08:47 AM
something like that.....so do yall really have the statue of Sylvester Stallone up on the steps of the museum?
I know you're not talking to me, but I have to tell you something really funny. My little brother went to Georgetown High School (Texas). They used their football stadium to film whichever high school football movie had Jon Voigt (was it Varsity Blues?). They put a statue of Jon Voigt up near the stadium as part of the film because it was a statue of the "coach" and it's still there. :lol They just left it there and nobody wanted to take it down.
And while he was in town filming that movie, Jon Voigt stopped by Book People in Austin, where my husband worked at the time. He asked my husband for a book and my husband's a chatty guy, so they started talking about good books. Voigt asked if Jim had ever read Autobiography of a Yogi and Jim said no and Voigt said, Well you should, and Jim gave him his usual, well, I'm a poor college student, so I never buy new books. So Jon Voigt bought the book for him. Of course Jim had NO clue who the guy was until he left and one of his coworkers was like, "Dude, did Jon Voigt just buy you a book?" :lol
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:51 AM
I know you're not talking to me, but I have to tell you something really funny. My little brother went to Georgetown High School (Texas). They used their football stadium to film whichever high school football movie had Jon Voigt (was it Varsity Blues?). They put a statue of Jon Voigt up near the stadium as part of the film because it was a statue of the "coach" and it's still there. :lol They just left it there and nobody wanted to take it down.
And while he was in town filming that movie, Jon Voigt stopped by Book People in Austin, where my husband worked at the time. He asked my husband for a book and my husband's a chatty guy, so they started talking about good books. Voigt asked if Jim had ever read Autobiography of a Yogi and Jim said no and Voigt said, Well you should, and Jim gave him his usual, well, I'm a poor college student, so I never buy new books. So Jon Voigt bought the book for him. Of course Jim had NO clue who the guy was until he left and one of his coworkers was like, "Dude, did Jon Voigt just buy you a book?" :lol
That was quite the interesting story...i would have been like hey sir do you mind if i have your daughters phone number, cause Angelina Jolie would love San Antonio if i took her out for a night in the town......and in my room...and in the kitchen, and in the laundry room.....and in the car........
Summers
08-23-2005, 08:53 AM
That was quite the interesting story...i would have been like hey sir do you mind if i have your daughters phone number, cause Angelina Jolie would love San Antonio if i took her out for a night in the town......and in my room...and in the kitchen, and in the laundry room.....and in the car........
I'm sure he'd be like, "Well, since you put it like that, it's 310..."
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 08:55 AM
**Throws more fire***
So is Tony Parker, White, Black, French, or Belgin? :angel
oh.
he's Frawhiblagin . :lol
actually I agree with summers "cafe au lait" idea. thats sounds delicious.
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 08:55 AM
That was quite the interesting story...i would have been like hey sir do you mind if i have your daughters phone number, cause Angelina Jolie would love San Antonio if i took her out for a night in the town......and in my room...and in the kitchen, and in the laundry room.....and in the car........
the real question would be : does he even have her #?
i hear they don't get along too well.
batman2883
08-23-2005, 08:58 AM
I'm sure they do
smeagol
08-23-2005, 08:59 AM
**Throws more fire***
So is Tony Parker, White, Black, French, or Belgin? :angel
He is Belgin.
Looks like this thread will be making its way to the Club in no time :lol
Summers
08-23-2005, 09:02 AM
He is Belgin.
Looks like this thread will be making its way to the Club in no time :lol
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tony-Parker
this comes up a lot (and not a big deal) but he's French. If you click on the link you can see a cute pic of the Three Amigos. :)
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 09:02 AM
He is Belgin.
Looks like this thread will be making its way to the Club in no time :lol
(hehe :devil)
soooooo .. your saying he's just Belgin? even though his father is a black american?
batman2883
08-23-2005, 09:03 AM
Actually the reason i asked cause i was going to say basically the only good thing about Philly was
3. They Made Rocky There
2. Allen Iverson
1. Philly Cheesesteaks
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 09:05 AM
something like that.....so do yall really have the statue of Sylvester Stallone up on the steps of the museum?
Nope...thank god, that would be tasteless.
http://www.tvacres.com/statues_rocky_balboa.htm
Summers
08-23-2005, 09:06 AM
How can there be 3 people in a row who can't spell "Belgian"?
:lol
I love y'all... You know I wouldn't point it out if I didn't.
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 09:07 AM
Actually the reason i asked cause i was going to say basically the only good thing about Philly was
3. They Made Rocky There
2. Allen Iverson
1. Philly Cheesesteaks
:lol Hey, we're also famous for the original constitutional center, Ben Franklin, and Love Park :)
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 09:08 AM
How can there be 3 people in a row who can't spell "Belgian"?
:lol
I love y'all... You know I wouldn't point it out if I didn't.
:lol I didn't even realize my typo.
batman2883
08-23-2005, 09:08 AM
:lol Hey, we're also famous for the original constitutional center, Ben Franklin, and Love Park :)
Uhhh Cheesesteaks and thats it
Summers
08-23-2005, 09:08 AM
:lol Hey, we're also famous for the original constitutional center, Ben Franklin, and Love Park :)
And the Liberty Bell!
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 09:09 AM
And the Liberty Bell!
Shit...that old thing? It's all cracked and ugly, believe me, it's nothing to talk about :)
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 09:11 AM
:lol Hey, we're also famous for the original constitutional center, Ben Franklin, and Love Park :)
:tu Ben Franklin.
thats dude was the SHIT! :smokin
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 09:12 AM
Shit...that old thing? It's all cracked and ugly, believe me, it's nothing to talk about :)
dear lord :lmao
thats the same thing we say about the Alamo!!! :lmao
Summers
08-23-2005, 09:12 AM
(hehe :devil)
soooooo .. your saying he's just Belgin? even though his father is a black american?
Trouble-maker! :lol
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 09:13 AM
dear lord :lmao
thats the same thing we say about the Alamo!!! :lmao
:lol I remember when I was in 5th grade, we had a school field trip down there to see the Liberty Bell, and afterwards I said to my teacher, "That bell is ugly, why don't they fix that crack?"
batman2883
08-23-2005, 09:19 AM
dear lord :lmao
thats the same thing we say about the Alamo!!! :lmao
I love the Alamo damn it
Wow this thread went nowhere fast.
:lol
batman2883
08-23-2005, 09:32 AM
Besides im still laughing at the joke of What were Davy Crocketts last words.
waly.mg
08-23-2005, 09:47 AM
What a thread ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
It´s impossible, in Argentina there aren´t skins problem, because every last name is from a different country
In only my family: My father is from Spain, my mother form Piamonte, a population betwwen North Italy and France, my wife father is from Paraguay with a Portuguese Last Name, my partner parents are from Ukraine and Russia
If not check Only the National team:
PG: Pepe Sanchez - Spain
SG: Ginobili - Italy
SF: Nocioni - Italy
PF: Oberto - Italy
C: Wolkowysky - Poland
Bench:
Montecchia: Italy
Delfino: Probaly Italy or Spain
Walter Herrmann: Prabably from Germany
Scola: Spain
Kammerich: Probably from Germany
Others:
Sconocchini: Italy
Gutierrez y Fernandez: Spain
Hasen: Italy
In fact when they let Argentina to go to play in Europe, the majority has double nationality or transacts the European citizenship and play like Europeans
If not check this :
Profile from the ACB
Jugadoresnº nombre posición nac.<--- nationality
4 Scola, Luis F ESP : Argentina
5 Prigioni, Pablo B ITA : Argentina
21 Splitter, Tiago F ESP : Brasil
22 Gabini, Roberto A ITA : Argentina
20 Sánchez, Pepe B ESP : Argentina
23 Herrmann, Walter A ESP: Argentina
6 Montecchia, A. B ITA: Argentina
10 Kammerichs, Federico A GER : Argentina
14 Oberto, Fabricio P ITA : Argentina
32 Mainoldi, Leo F ITA : Argentina
14 Jasen, Hernán E ITA : Argentina
ITA = Italy
ESP = Spain
GER = Germany
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 09:52 AM
It´s impossible, in Argentina there aren´t skins problem, because every last name is from a different country
uhm. dude . your not alone in that.
Everyone's last name in just about any american country is from another country.
We ain't called the melting pot for nothing. :smokin
the only original last names around here are the dances-with-wolves type. :lol
waly.mg
08-23-2005, 10:05 AM
Not really
When i say from a different country i say the grandparents at the most
If your grandfather is from Italy or Spain, only with citizenchip, you can transact the nationality, but not if the citizen is your great-grandfather, and Only if you have the Last Name of him, if he´s your mother dad, you can´t
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 10:08 AM
Not really
When i say from a different country i say the grandparents at the most
If your grandfather is from Italy or Spain, only with citizenchip, you can transact the nationality, but not if the citizen is your great-grandfather, and Only if you have the Last Name of him, if he´s your mother dad, you can´t
A. your hilarious, I'm loving this thread.
B. I court danger by poking my stick at snakes
C. it;s great how you know the background on heritage of every north american but we don't know shit about south americans :tu
D. can we get back to comparing the Spurs to yummy sensual foods/colors??? :angel
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 10:16 AM
D. can we get back to comparing the Spurs to yummy sensual foods/colors??? :angel
Manu would be a Starbucks Passion Fruit lemonade. Bright and colorful on the outside, sweet and tangy on the inside ;)
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 10:19 AM
yum.
thast a good one.
so far we've got Manu as a creme brulee (w/ or without raspberry's) and a Passion fruit Lemonade.
Duncan is a Mocha with a creamy foam top
and Tony is cafe au lait..
what about Beno? Rasho? & Barry?
1Parker1
08-23-2005, 10:20 AM
yum.
thast a good one.
so far we've got Manu as a creme brulee (w/ or without raspberry's) and a Passion fruit Lemonade.
Duncan is a Mocha with a creamy foam top
and Tony is cafe au lait..
what about Beno? Rasho? & Barry?
Shoot........Rasho is Skim Milk. (Sorry Angel! :))
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 10:24 AM
okay.. how bout Rasho(blonde) is the 1912 Vanilla and Beno (brunette) is the Vanilla Bean flavor icecreams?
then all our female Slovinian bball fans could have them both in a sundae.
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 10:25 AM
Barry is too lively and crazy for his own good.
He's tri-flavored sherbet.
whottt
08-23-2005, 11:49 AM
Manu isn't white. He's Argentinian and Argentines are hispanic.
drivanroca
08-23-2005, 12:57 PM
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Summers
08-23-2005, 01:21 PM
yum.
thast a good one.
so far we've got Manu as a creme brulee (w/ or without raspberry's) and a Passion fruit Lemonade.
Duncan is a Mocha with a creamy foam top
and Tony is cafe au lait..
what about Beno? Rasho? & Barry?
Would that be the mini-fro?
Rasho needs to be some kind of Eastern European dumpling... something heavy and filling and savory. :)
batman2883
08-23-2005, 01:23 PM
How the hell did this conversation start?
Summers
08-23-2005, 01:26 PM
Something about eggplant.
waly.mg
08-23-2005, 01:59 PM
Knew you who when a foreigner arrives at USA, the Employees of Customs fill a Form of the person?
One of the data is the race to which one belongs. For them, practically only there are two races: White and Color
batman2883
08-23-2005, 02:13 PM
ha ha ha ha ha eggplant...hate to see what happens when someone mentions kesh....
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 02:19 PM
Would that be the mini-fro?
Rasho needs to be some kind of Eastern European dumpling... something heavy and filling and savory. :)
How 'bout a Potato and Cheese Pierogi??? yeah, it's Polish, BUT you fry those bad boys in butter and onions and they are definatly "something heavy and filling and savory.".
I love those things.
MiNuS
08-23-2005, 02:29 PM
Manu isn't white. He's Argentinian and Argentines are hispanic.I guess a better word would be "caucasian".
http://www.answers.com/topic/caucasian-race-1
beno & rasho are European. manu & frabri are S. American. And Barry is N. American.
Now if we added Chubaca into the mix then he could play power forward and that would be an "intergalactic team" BUT for now YES the Spurs would have an all international team,inter-racial team,for sure an intercontinental team.
For sure a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM!
All we need next year is to get Yao Ming in a Spur uniform and the Spurs will be known as the G7 of all sports!It could very possibly become the most visable sports team and most powerful team in the WORLD!
Spurminator
08-23-2005, 02:32 PM
Look, there are five races in this world: American, Black, Mexican, Chinese, and the recently intorduced "A-rab."
Pick one and stick with it.
nkdlunch
08-23-2005, 02:36 PM
Look, there are five races in this world: American, Black, Mexican, Chinese, and the recently intorduced "A-rab."
Pick one and stick with it.
what about the dwarves, elves and Piston Fans(I mean Trolls :))???
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 02:59 PM
what about the dwarves, elves and Piston Fans(I mean Trolls :))???
pistons fans are aliens from another planet.
Summers
08-23-2005, 03:03 PM
How 'bout a Potato and Cheese Pierogi??? yeah, it's Polish, BUT you fry those bad boys in butter and onions and they are definatly "something heavy and filling and savory.".
I love those things.
That sounds like Rasho. :lol I just realized what I said could be completely misinterpreted. I often make subtle obscene remarks, but I swear this wasn't intended to be one of them!
For some reason, Beno should be a cream pie of some kind.
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 03:36 PM
That sounds like Rasho. :lol I just realized what I said could be completely misinterpreted. I often make subtle obscene remarks, but I swear this wasn't intended to be one of them!
For some reason, Beno should be a cream pie of some kind.
Boston cream pie?
it has a chocolate top... like his hair.
Summers
08-23-2005, 03:40 PM
Yeah, that'll work and it's light and fluffy and sweet.
smeagol
08-23-2005, 03:44 PM
Manu isn't white. He's Argentinian and Argentines are hispanic.
Man, these days we can even agree on this topic.
He is of Italian descent. He is white.
nkdlunch
08-23-2005, 03:51 PM
Man, these days we can even agree on this topic.
He is of Italian descent. He is white.
Probably but his great-great-great grandfather could have been a cholito from the Pampas. Who knows anymore? :lol
who cares really
whottt
08-23-2005, 04:11 PM
Man, these days we can even agree on this topic.
He is of Italian descent. He is white.
Everyone knows hispanics are a different race than whites.
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
08-23-2005, 04:23 PM
Everyone knows hispanics are a different race than whites.
Oh, well, here we go again (trainning camp, please start at once!). Manu isn't "Hispanic" nor white he is Latin American.
smeagol
08-23-2005, 04:24 PM
Everyone knows hispanics are a different race than whites.
I did not get the memo.
In any case, he descends form Italians, not Hispanics (or Spanish).
whottt
08-23-2005, 04:26 PM
IF he speaks Spanish his race is hispanic, and therefore not white.
smeagol
08-23-2005, 04:29 PM
IF he speaks Spanish his race is hispanic, and therefore not white.
He also speaks English and Italian.
Bowen speaks spanish.
My wife, whom I love very much and I have already told her story in an earlier post, spoke English before she spoke Spanish. But she is 100% Argentine. Is she Hispanic or White?
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 04:39 PM
your taking whott seriously arn't you guys?
can you not see the way he's getting off messing with you?
geesh.
this off-season is pure torture.
smeagol
08-23-2005, 04:43 PM
your taking whott seriously arn't you guys?
can you not see the way he's getting off messing with you?
geesh.
this off-season is pure torture.
Of course I take the man seriously. He is my favorite poster when the season starts, but in the off season its :makemyday
MiNuS
08-23-2005, 04:59 PM
IF he speaks Spanish his race is hispanic, and therefore not white."race" buzzard NO! There are alot of mixed races in the Latino community.
There is alot of black mixture in the Carribean islands..Cuba,Rep Dominicana,Brazil. There are alot of indian mixture with European ancestors. In Peru I believe lately there is a heavy influx of Japanese. There president is oriental. In Argentina the majority are old settlers from Italy. Hey even Mexico has an interracial President in Vicente Fox-Quesada.
Its Latino-America. People from Brazil even though they mostly speak Portuguese are Latino's,because their language derives from Latin.
Ginobili is not as "white" as Oberto but he is still considered as such.
Kori Ellis
08-23-2005, 05:03 PM
Here you go, I'll rephrase the original post of this thread, so that everyone can realize that this wasn't meant to turn into a white thing ...
"Isn't it weird that the Spurs have so many players that aren't Black that they can put a legitimate all non-Black lineup on the floor? When was the last time another team did that?"
There you go -- now it's a Black thing.
waly.mg
08-23-2005, 05:05 PM
In Italy and Spain exist the Law of Nationality "Jure Sanguinis"
The Italian legislation, it grants in the matter of nationality right, the possibility of obtaining the double citizenship, to any person whom it has although it is, a minimum of ITALIAN blood
Esteem which they entered ARGENTINA, a total, of but of 1.1 million of Italian.
Today, ARGENTINA, is inhabited by almost 37 million people, of this total, practically 25 million inhabitants, are potentially, Italian, in the terms that the legislation in the matter such question regulates, the projections for year 2050, give 50 million inhabitants to ARGENTINA, that is 36 million of Italian "Jure sanguinis".
Please traslate this:
http://hispanoargentinos.com/boletinnovedades/cartas_lectores/2005/180705_Marco_Antonio.htm
El problema de la Nacionalidad entre Italia y España - Por Marco Antonio - Publicada el 18-07-05
ANNO DOMINI 2050,¿QUO VADIS HISPANIA?
El PORQUÉ, DE ESTA PREGUNTA.
De seguir existiendo una absoluta asimetría, en el concepto de los derechos de nacionalidad entre ITALIA y ESPAÑA, nos encontraremos, que por imperio de la UNION EUROPEA, en un futuro no muy lejano ESPAÑA será repoblada en gran parte, por italianos.
El fenómeno en cuestión tiene una explicación muy sencilla:
Para el año 2050, ESPAÑA, será (si las proyecciones estadísticas no mienten), el país mas viejo de LA EUROPA COMUNITARIA, para esos años, por cada diez españoles en edad productiva, existirán, nueve españoles acogidos a algún sistema de retiro o jubilación.
Hoy ESPAÑA, con casi 39,2 millones de habitantes, tiene una tasa de crecimiento de población ubicada en 1.26 niños por mujer.
Estos valores tan bajos de tasas de natalidad, son producto de varios factores, y hará que para el año 2050, el 35,6% de su población tenga mas de 65 años, por ello, se espera una perdida neta de población nativa.
Así mismo, en esos años, habrá, una menor proporción de ciudadanos en edad de trabajar, en el orden de un 52,9% del total de la población.
Muy lejos de ESPAÑA, existe un país llamado ARGENTINA, este país ha recibido un gran flujo de inmigrantes, en una primera gran oleada, entre los años que van desde 1870 a 1910, (inmigración alentada desde el propio estado argentino, cuyos funcionarios de esos años, seguían la premisa que expresaba, “gobernar es poblar”).
En un censo del año 1910 en la republica ARGENTINA, se registraba que un 25 % de los habitantes provenían del extranjero, la mayoría de ellos, de ITALIA y ESPAÑA.-
Fueron atraídos por promotores, que incitaban a los pobladores EUROPEOS, a venir a estas lejanas tierras, donde una vez llegados, se le indicaba un destino en el territorio, el estado nacional argentino, les donaba tierras, elementos de labranza y semillas, mas una ayuda alimentaría para los primeros meses.
En aquellos años, los emigrantes españoles, se dedicaron esencialmente a tareas relacionadas a las ciudades, donde, los problemas para subsistir, eran diversos, sea por alimentos, sea por alojamiento, esto tendía a que los españoles, tuvieran familias con pocos hijos, mientras que los italianos, optaban, por su formación, a dedicarse a las tareas rurales, donde de hecho por el entorno y el tipo de tarea a realizar, eran muy comunes, las familias numerosas.
En una segunda gran oleada llegaron como inmigrantes económicos y refugiados, entre otros, ciudadanos españoles e italianos, luego de las guerras mundiales y la guerra civil española.
La legislación italiana, otorga en materia de derecho de nacionalidad, la posibilidad de obtener la doble ciudadanía, a cualquier persona que tenga aunque sea , un mínimo de sangre ITALIANA, “jure sanguinis” ,(sin limites de generaciones y permite además tramitar la ciudadanía a, los ancestros ya fallecidos, pero sin salto de generaciones),siempre que consiga demostrar el vinculo familiar .
Se estima que ingresaron a ARGENTINA, un total, de mas de 1,1 millones de italianos.
Este criterio (jure sanguinis ), también es aplicable, a las personas nacidas, y ya residentes en los territorios que pertenecían al IMPERIO AUSTRO -HUNGARO (Trentino-Alto Adige/Sudtirolo/Friuli Venezia Giulia), luego recuperados por ITALIA.
Hoy , la ARGENTINA, está habitada por casi 37 millones de personas, de este total, prácticamente 25 millones de habitantes, son potencialmente, italianos, en los términos que la legislación en la materia regula tal cuestión, las proyecciones para el año 2050,dan 50 millones de habitantes a la ARGENTINA, o sea 36 millones de italianos “ jure sanguinis”.
Es decir que en estos años, ITALIA, con una población estimada en 57 millones de habitantes, tiene en la ARGENTINA, como, italianos “ jure sanguinis, el equivalente al 43,86 %, de la población de los italianos nativos y que habitan ITALIA.-
La mayor parte de los ciudadanos italo-argentinos, que migran a EUROPA, se establecen en ESPAÑA motivados por las facilidades comunitarias y el idioma, (a este fenómeno, alguna especialista, dio en llamarlo, LA ITALIANIDAD VACIA).-
Nos encontramos pues, que, en la actualidad, ESPAÑA, niega a la descendencia de su propia sangre, lo que otorga a sus hijos por adopción (VIA COMUNIDAD EUROPEA).
No soy yo un especialista en derecho constitucional, ni nada que se le parezca, es más no soy un leído en cuestiones de derecho, pero creo tener desarrollado, el sentido común.-
Es por ello, que no me atrevo a atacar la constitucionalidad, de determinados artículos, de determinada ley, pero si me atrevo a decir, NO TIENE SENTIDO QUE:
El bisnieto de un inmigrante ESPAÑOL,(AUNQUE SEA POR LINEA PATERNA) no pueda obtener la CIUDADANIA ESPAÑOLA, pero, “si tiene la suerte” de poseer un TATARABUELO ITALIANO ,aún por LINEA MATERNA, y el interesado, nació luego del año 1948 (constitución de ITALIA), con toda seguridad, podrá ser ITALIANO de pleno derecho, y por ende, tendrá pasaporte COMUNITARIO, lo cual le permitirá residir, trabajar, votar y ser candidato en los ayuntamientos, todo esto en ESPAÑA.
Creo que puedo plantear, estas reflexiones, desde la autoridad moral que creo tener, para abordar el asunto de la ciudadanía, por cuanto soy español de origen, al igual que mis dos hijas, y no por ello fuimos a ESPAÑA a buscar trabajo, o un mejor pasar.
La ciudadanía ESPAÑOLA, es para nosotros, y otros muchos como nosotros, una cuestión de CARIÑO POR NUESTRAS RAICES, cariño este, que va mucho mas allá, de las cuestiones económicas coyunturales.
Todo lo antes expresado, NO TIENE LA INTENCIÓN DE SER UN PANFLETO ANTI- ITALIANO, muy por el contrario, pretende despertar en los poderes constituidos, los medios de comunicación masivos, y en los habitantes de ESPAÑA, vista desde una perspectiva distinta, la imperiosa necesidad, de modificar, los actuales criterios en materia de ciudadanía, o en su defecto, asumir responsablemente, sus consecuencias no queridas.
SE DEBE, IMITAR A ITALIA, QUIEN CUIDA DE SU DESENDENCIA, o tener los brazos muy abiertos, para recibir, en un futuro no muy lejano, a un elevado porcentaje de los millones de italo-argentinos, que irán a cubrir las necesidades de mano de obra calificada y profesionales universitarios, que se requerirán, para acompañar el crecimiento del P.B.I., o producto bruto interno de ESPAÑA.-
Insisto en el punto, los responsables en la materia, deberán asumir que ESPAÑA,(como lo indico mas arriba en esta nota), irá cubriendo sus necesidades de población joven, con italianos “ jure sanguinis , que hablarán ESPAÑOL, pero que no tendrán con ESPAÑA, NADA MAS QUE UN VINCULO ECONOMICO, con lo que ello significará, en términos de perdida de las raíces culturales, de toda ESPAÑA.
Desde ya quedo a sus gratas ordenes.-
Atentamente:
Marco Antonio Arrieta y Cardona
Ciudadano ESPAÑOL de origen
smeagol
08-23-2005, 05:07 PM
In Peru I believe lately there is a heavy influx of Japanese. There president is oriental.
Dude, that guy is long gone. His name is Alberto Fujimori and he had to leave the presidency after his strong man was videotapped paying bribes to a congressman.
smeagol
08-23-2005, 05:08 PM
Here you go, I'll rephrase the original post of this thread, so that everyone can realize that this wasn't meant to turn into a white thing ...
"Isn't it weird that the Spurs have so many players that aren't Black that they can put a legitimate all non-Black lineup on the floor? When was the last time another team did that?"
There you go -- now it's a Black thing.
:tu
MiNuS
08-23-2005, 05:10 PM
Dude, that guy is long gone. His name is Alberto Fujimori and he had to leave the presidency after his strong man was videotapped paying bribes to a congressman.
okay and my point was that they had a spanish speaking oriental running the place.He's yellow not white.He's oriental race not of European decent.
Kori Ellis
08-23-2005, 05:11 PM
they had a spanish speaking oriental
Hey, don't use the word "oriental". Oriental is for objects .. like an oriental vase. Use the word "Asian" for people.
Thanks.
:lmao
ALVAREZ6
08-23-2005, 05:12 PM
something like that.....so do yall really have the statue of Sylvester Stallone up on the steps of the museum?
No, but we do have a statue of Slyvester Stallone outside the Wachovia Spectrum which is right next to the Wachovia Center. Near it is a statue of Dr. J.
Mixability
08-23-2005, 05:12 PM
Hey, don't use the word "oriental". Oriental is for objects .. like an oriental vase. Use the word "Asian" for people.
Thanks.
:lmao
damn, Kori, beat me to it!
Dre_7
08-23-2005, 05:14 PM
Wow! You guys are still arguing about the whole "white" thing? Is it really that important?? :wtf
There wasnt even this much arguing when GiG used racial slurs on this site.
Who cares what "color" Manu is. He can ball!! Thats all that matters!!!! Who cares about race?? JEEPERS!!!!!!
samikeyp
08-23-2005, 05:19 PM
is it me or is this thread becoming "quattro-esque"? :)
Mixability
08-23-2005, 05:28 PM
Oh, well, here we go again (trainning camp, please start at once!). Manu isn't "Hispanic" nor white he is Latin American.
looks like you got one of your own turning on your so-called obvious facts, smeagol
Mixability
08-23-2005, 05:30 PM
Manu is definitely.............................
still a Time Warner Customer
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 05:36 PM
There you go -- now it's a Black thing.
now we can have 3 page long pointless discussions about what "black" really is and who qualify's as "black" :lol :lol
Kori Ellis
08-23-2005, 05:37 PM
now we can have 3 page long pointless discussions about what "black" really is and who qualify's as "black"
:lol
That was my point.
Okay, I'll start. Are people from the Dominican Republic black or hispanic? :lol
NZHayden
08-23-2005, 05:37 PM
does it really matter if you can field a team of white players
NZHayden
08-23-2005, 05:38 PM
:lol
That was my point.
Okay, I'll start. Are people from the Dominican Republic black or hispanic? :lol
brown?
Kori Ellis
08-23-2005, 05:39 PM
does it really matter if you can field a team of white players
No it doesn't really matter. But it's unusual and somewhat noteworthy or interesting to some, I suppose.
ObiwanGinobili
08-23-2005, 05:39 PM
I'd say they are blacspanic or hispack... but thats way too middle of the road friendly for this thread so I'm gonna jump off a bridge here and say : BLACKISH
Mixability
08-23-2005, 05:55 PM
Danyo, just listen to Smeagol on this one.
Where are most Argentines' ancestors from? Europe.
Where are most of any "american" white person's ancestors from? Europe.
wow, based on this theory, I'm white. Now when talking about getting held back by "the Man", I'm talking about myself! :drunk
whottt
08-23-2005, 06:24 PM
He also speaks English
That means he's half white and half hispanic.
Bowen speaks spanish.
Half black, half hispanic.
My wife, whom I love very much and I have already told her story in an earlier post, spoke English before she spoke Spanish. But she is 100% Argentine. Is she Hispanic or White?
As noted by Obiwanginobili...
If she started out white and then converted to hispanism...she's a half breed. A whispanic if you will....like Manu...only since he was a hispanic first he's a hispwhite...essentially the same thing...only different.
But if you have one drop of the hispanic language in you you are still a hispanic and therefore cannot be of the white race.
And don't even ask me what Dikembe Mutombo is with his 7 languages...he's beyond classification.
ALVAREZ6
08-23-2005, 07:07 PM
And don't even ask me what Dikembe Mutombo is with his 7 languages...he's beyond classification.
Speaking of Mutombo, his FULL name is Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean Jacque Wamutombo .
How do you get that name?
Obstructed_View
08-24-2005, 05:47 AM
I always thought it was kind of cool that the 80's Celtics had two or three good white players and a black coach.
batman2883
08-24-2005, 07:48 AM
:lol
That was my point.
Okay, I'll start. Are people from the Dominican Republic black or hispanic? :lol
They are latinos, hispanic is the word used for mexicans....... :lol
waly.mg
08-24-2005, 08:02 AM
In the 90´s Dennis Roddman sayed:
"The Blacks are better than the whites because we know then we can kick a white ass"
In the 21st Century sometimes the whites kicked some black asses, that thing is new for the NBA
batman2883
08-24-2005, 08:10 AM
There are some good "white" players out there.......to name a few
Wally Sczerbiak
Kyle Korver
Beno Udrih
Jason Williams
Mike Bibby
Brent Barry
ObiwanGinobili
08-24-2005, 08:39 AM
Speaking of Mutombo, his FULL name is Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean Jacque Wamutombo .
How do you get that name?
I have no idea.. i'm thinking you get it when your parents owe alot of people alot of major favors and naming your kid after them is a way to get the monkey off your back.........
:lol
ObiwanGinobili
08-24-2005, 08:41 AM
In the 90´s Dennis Roddman said:
"The Blacks are better than the whites because we know then we can kick a white ass"
Rodman has said many many things into a microphone and/or TV camera.. but they all amount to the same thing:
"Hey! look at me !! LOOK AT ME!!! See me??!!! Look! LOOK AT ME!!! "
Mixability
08-24-2005, 08:45 AM
And don't even ask me what Dikembe Mutombo is with his 7 languages...he's beyond classification.
doubt it, but if he has any drop of european blood in his family, he's white..... according to smeagol :rolleyes :lol
wow, i can call myself white now! does that mean i lose my rhythm? :lol
ObiwanGinobili
08-24-2005, 08:50 AM
I'm
GerIrishHunCherokBlacJewish ..... also known as Heinz57.
And if anyone wants to call me white thats fine, as long as it means I have good credit.
Mixability
08-24-2005, 08:51 AM
And if anyone wants to call me white thats fine, as long as it means I have good credit.
:rollin me too! me too!
now we're part of the majority, which was actually the minority, which...... aw nevermind :lol
smeagol
08-24-2005, 10:56 AM
doubt it, but if he has any drop of european blood in his family, he's white..... according to smeagol :rolleyes :lol
Danyo either you are an idiot, or the way people are categorized here in the US is stupid. Its probably both 'cause I have been asked that question in some idiotic questionnaires and don't really know if I'm giving the correct answer. I always say white because the hispanic/latino option is so vague.
If the majority thinks Manu is not white, then I give up and will not comment again on these Manu is/is not white threads that pop up every month or so (but I will have to restrain myself when idiot like danyo come along).
Mixability
08-24-2005, 11:05 AM
Danyo either you are an idiot, or the way people are categorized here in the US is stupid. Its probably both 'cause I have been asked that question in some idiotic questionnaires and don't really know if I'm giving the correct answer. I always say white because the hispanic/latino option is so vague.
If the majority thinks Manu is not white, then I give up and will not comment again on these Manu is/is not white threads that pop up every month or so (but I will have to restrain myself when idiot like danyo come along).
Damn, you're way too uptight, geez, can't take a joke? Yeah the hispanic/latino option is pretty vague, but its better than having to choose "other". As for the "idiot" remark, i won't even bother stooping down to your level, it just shows your maturity level. Kinda like losing an argument and then saying, "well my Dad can beat your Dad up!" :rollin
waly.mg
08-24-2005, 11:30 AM
I believe that it is or clear what I meant at the beginning of the Thread
The best players of the world are black, Steve Nash was the first white MVP from Larry Bird, although for my he is not the best player of the league, the best is between Shaq, Then Duncan and Garnett
In a sport dominated by the blacks, to have possible formacion white or that it is not black, it is not very frequent
batman2883
08-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Thats not true cause look at rookie of the year awards too.....Wasnt there a few in the last couple of years that were white??? Like that one guy that got it over Manu Ginobili was that one white guy from the Grizzlies....whats his face...um....Mike Miller there you go
hendrix
08-24-2005, 12:09 PM
:lol
Okay, I'll start. Are people from the Dominican Republic black or hispanic? :lol
They may be both (you know that already, i've seen your other posts on the subject).
They may be white and hispanic too. Always hispanic tho, since thats an hispano-american country.
Kori Ellis
08-24-2005, 12:19 PM
They may be both (you know that already, i've seen your other posts on the subject).
They may be white and hispanic too. Always hispanic tho, since thats an hispano-american country.
You are right, I've posted about it before. timvp is over Dominican descent. I just find it interesting that some people consider it an either/or thing when it comes to the distinction between Black/Hispanic/White/Whatever.
smeagol
08-24-2005, 12:41 PM
You are right, I've posted about it before. timvp is over Dominican descent. I just find it interesting that some people consider it an either/or thing when it comes to the distinction between Black/Hispanic/White/Whatever.
I agree with Kori and Hendrix. You can be white and Latino/Hispanic. But what is idiotic is to say a guy is not white because he was born in Argentina, Chile, Venezuela or any other Latin American country.
hendrix
08-24-2005, 12:59 PM
You are right, I've posted about it before. timvp is over Dominican descent. I just find it interesting that some people consider it an either/or thing when it comes to the distinction between Black/Hispanic/White/Whatever.
Well, let me say something.
I particularly find very funny when people "exclude" some others from an ethnic or racial or whatever category.
Lets take the "White race" example. Say Ginobili is not enough white to "qualify" in that category.
First of all, I (personally) jump off my seat when read stuff like that, NOT because it bothers me in a "pride" (or whatever you call it) sense, but because one can see the segregational logic behind it. I personally couldnt care less is someone says to me "you aren't white, you're tanned" (I'll say: "thanks... it's cool to play outdoor sports on a nice weather and not worry to get red like an apple").
Back to the example.
* What degree of white/pink qualifies as to be called "white" by them?
* What about interracial relationships that has been going on for centuries? Don't they see there are millions of shades of pink/white/orange/etc....? Do they still use 16-color computers? Do they still use Commodore64s? Are they so stupid?
* Don't they know that the ongoing mix of races and/or ethnicities is going to keep its pace?
* Don't they know that the mixing of genes is always better?
Still... definitions had already been made, and Manu would qualify as a "Mediterranean white". It means: "Not so palid like a finnish." :)
Please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race
Anyone not reading those or similar sources of info should stop posting. :) (really)
Kori Ellis
08-24-2005, 01:16 PM
What about interracial relationships that has been going on for centuries? Don't they see there are millions of shades of pink/white/orange/etc....? Do they still use 16-color computers? Do they still use Commodore64s? Are they so stupid?
:lmao
samikeyp
08-24-2005, 01:17 PM
Damn....Commodore 64 smack! nice! :lol
nkdlunch
08-24-2005, 01:26 PM
:lol
I can't beleive I still remember: LOAD "...." ,8,7 or something like that
and the damn SYNTAX ERROR :lol
Mixability
08-24-2005, 01:50 PM
Well, let me say something.
I particularly find very funny when people "exclude" some others from an ethnic or racial or whatever category.
Lets take the "White race" example. Say Ginobili is not enough white to "qualify" in that category.
First of all, I (personally) jump off my seat when read stuff like that, NOT because it bothers me in a "pride" (or whatever you call it) sense, but because one can see the segregational logic behind it. I personally couldnt care less is someone says to me "you aren't white, you're tanned" (I'll say: "thanks... it's cool to play outdoor sports on a nice weather and not worry to get red like an apple").
Back to the example.
* What degree of white/pink qualifies as to be called "white" by them?
* What about interracial relationships that has been going on for centuries? Don't they see there are millions of shades of pink/white/orange/etc....? Do they still use 16-color computers? Do they still use Commodore64s? Are they so stupid?
* Don't they know that the ongoing mix of races and/or ethnicities is going to keep its pace?
* Don't they know that the mixing of genes is always better?
Still... definitions had already been made, and Manu would qualify as a "Mediterranean white". It means: "Not so palid like a finnish." :)
Please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race
Anyone not reading those or similar sources of info should stop posting. :) (really)
that confirms it then, I'm white :spin
wow, a white hispanic/mexican-american, whew i'm tired...
whottt
08-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Well, let me say something.
I particularly find very funny when people "exclude" some others from an ethnic or racial or whatever category.
Lets take the "White race" example. Say Ginobili is not enough white to "qualify" in that category.
First of all, I (personally) jump off my seat when read stuff like that, NOT because it bothers me in a "pride" (or whatever you call it) sense, but because one can see the segregational logic behind it. I personally couldnt care less is someone says to me "you aren't white, you're tanned" (I'll say: "thanks... it's cool to play outdoor sports on a nice weather and not worry to get red like an apple").
Back to the example.
* What degree of white/pink qualifies as to be called "white" by them?
* What about interracial relationships that has been going on for centuries? Don't they see there are millions of shades of pink/white/orange/etc....? Do they still use 16-color computers? Do they still use Commodore64s? Are they so stupid?
* Don't they know that the ongoing mix of races and/or ethnicities is going to keep its pace?
* Don't they know that the mixing of genes is always better?
Still... definitions had already been made, and Manu would qualify as a "Mediterranean white". It means: "Not so palid like a finnish." :)
Please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race
Anyone not reading those or similar sources of info should stop posting. :) (really)
You can't be white if you speak Spanish. This is the official policy of the US Government...as you proved the last time we had this debate.
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
08-24-2005, 02:19 PM
You can't be white if you speak Spanish. This is the official policy of the US Government...as you proved the last time we had this debate.
Will hendrix take the bait?
(Sits, grabs popcorn and waits)...
MiNuS
08-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Whats interesting about the "white" topic is that for example if we think about it in "Futbol" terms we never see an all "white" Brazilian team. Or in Mexico we always discuss about never being able to reach that next level due to physical advantage the Brazilian's have and to an extent the Argentinians. I know I'm stepping into differrent waters now. But its true.
hendrix
08-24-2005, 03:10 PM
You can't be white if you speak Spanish. This is the official policy of the US Government...as you proved the last time we had this debate.
I could have been wrong about US goverment policies (I thought "hispanic" was used as a race by the US census bureau). I was wrong, but the "fix" was pretty recent anyways).
You are still taking hispanic for a "color of skin" (let's assume this isn't a race issue).
I dont find "hispanic" in the color palette... what is its hex code?
Are all whites like #FFFFFF ???
ObiwanGinobili
08-24-2005, 03:13 PM
I worked for the census and if you claim to be hispanic they then subcatagorize you into 2 groups: white of hispanic decent or black of hispanic decent.
just to clear the waters on that point.
beirmeistr
08-24-2005, 04:02 PM
I worked for the census and if you claim to be hispanic they then subcatagorize you into 2 groups: white of hispanic decent or black of hispanic decent.
just to clear the waters on that point.
I think that cleared the waters.
waly.mg
08-25-2005, 10:02 AM
Is Oberto White or Not?
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4682/obertonbaball3504ee.jpg
Summers
08-25-2005, 10:06 AM
I think this would be afriendlier debate if we substituted the word "hot" for "white" and merged this thread with the sexy male athlete thread. Is Oberto hot? Yes he is! :tu
smeagol
08-25-2005, 10:14 AM
Is Oberto White or Not?
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4682/obertonbaball3504ee.jpg
NO!!
He is Hispanic because he speaks Spanish. He is Latino, because he was born in Latin America.
Therefore, if he is in the floor with four white dudes, that is not an all white basketball team. Please get that through your thick Argentinean skull!
Summers
08-25-2005, 10:16 AM
NO!!
He is Hispanic because he speaks Spanish. He is Latino, because he was born in Latin America.
Therefore, if he is in the floor with four white dudes, that is not an all white basketball team. Please get that through your thick Argentinean skull!
But he's blonde!
:angel
Rick Von Braun
08-25-2005, 10:19 AM
Do you preffer: No one black in the field
But don´t worry smeagol
We born in American Continent, but we aren´t americans
Now, we aren´t white
If we aren´t white, the only whites are the blondes like Beno or Rasho
And Steve Nash isn´t White, and nor Roger Federer and the others Sorry, I just started reading this thread and couldn't resist.
For all argies (and south american people), I would like to clarify something. I know that you are taught that America is one big continent from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, but this view is NOT homogeneous all over the planet. In fact, in most places like Europe, US, and most parts of Asia, it is taught that South America is a different continent.
Please understand that your view is not the majority in the planet.
Summers
08-25-2005, 10:23 AM
Sorry, I just started reading this thread and couldn't resist.
For all argies (and south american people), I would like to clarify something. I know that you are taught that America is one big continent from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, but this view is NOT homogeneous all over the planet. In fact, in most places like Europe, US, and most parts of Asia, it is taught that South America is a different continent.
Please understand that your view is not the majority in the planet.
Interesting! I thought it was a universally-taught fact...
http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blcont.htm
nkdlunch
08-25-2005, 10:23 AM
Dude, there are 5 continents in this planet: America, Europe, Asia, Africa and Oceania
oh, yeah Antartica too. so 6
waly.mg
08-25-2005, 10:54 AM
NO!!
He is Hispanic because he speaks Spanish. He is Latino, because he was born in Latin America.
Therefore, if he is in the floor with four white dudes, that is not an all white basketball team. Please get that through your thick Argentinean skull!
ahhahahahahaah
That´s a Joke
In your words, the White Speak English
In your words, Tim Duncan is White, Shaq is White, because they Speak English, please read your words and you can Know then you are wrong
In your words, in Europe the Only Whites are the English, An Italian, a French, a German, a Dutch and a Danish aren´t whites
If this is Correct, you aren´t americans, you are English, because you Speak English
The Japanese are Chinese, because the Chinese are Yellow
You are very very wrong, there are Whites all over the world
Mixability
08-25-2005, 11:11 AM
I guess my last point would be: Manu's skin is fucking white. Oberto skin is also f-u-c-k-i-n-g- w-h-i-t-e (there I have dumb it down again, just so you can get it). That's why they are white.
NO!!
He is Hispanic because he speaks Spanish. He is Latino, because he was born in Latin America.
Therefore, if he is in the floor with four white dudes, that is not an all white basketball team. Please get that through your thick Argentinean skull!
Can you pick one side and stick with it?
Rick Von Braun
08-25-2005, 11:16 AM
Interesting! I thought it was a universally-taught fact...
http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blcont.htm Nope, it is certainly not a universally-taught fact.
From Wikipedia:
Geographic continents
"Because geography is defined by local convention, there are several conceptions as to which landmasses qualify as continents. There are names for six, but America is often divided, and Europe is often united with Asia. Ignoring cases where Antarctica is omitted, there are half a dozen lists. With the continents ordered by size, they are:
7 continents: Asia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia), Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa), North America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America), South America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America), Antarctica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica), Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe), and Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia).
6 continents: Asia, America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas), Africa, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia.
6 continents: Eurasia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia), Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, and Australia.
5 continents: Eurasia, America, Africa, Antarctica, and Australia.
5 continents: Laurasia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurasia), Africa, South America, Antarctica, and Australia.
4 continents: Afrasia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa-Eurasia), America, Antarctica, and Australia.
The 7-continent model is usually taught in Western Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe), the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) and Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), Australia, and much of Asia, i.e. most of the planet. The 6-continent combined-America model is taught in Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan), Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran), and Latin America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America). The 6-continent Eurasia model is preferred by the scientific community, and as such is commonly found in all parts of the world, but is especially used in Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) and other countries of Eastern Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe). Historians may use the 5-continent Laurasian model (Jared Diamond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond)) or the 4-continent Afrasian model (Andre Gund (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Gunder_Frank)er Frank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Gunder_Frank))."
So in both Western and Eastern Europe, Russia, US, Canada, Australia and most of Asian countries, North and South America are considered different continents. A combined-America model is taught in Japan, Iran and Latin America.
This is why most Latin-Americans get upset with the term 'American' referring to people from the US. They claim (rightfully so based on what they are taught), that they are also 'Americans' from the same continent. I am just clarifying to them that what they are taught is NOT an homogeneous view (in fact, they are in the minority in the planet).
More information at the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents
Rick Von Braun
08-25-2005, 11:24 AM
ahhahahahahaah
That´s a Joke
In your words, the White Speak English
In your words, Tim Duncan is White, Shaq is White, because they Speak English, please read your words and you can Know then you are wrong
In your words, in Europe the Only Whites are the English, An Italian, a French, a German, a Dutch and a Danish aren´t whites
If this is Correct, you aren´t americans, you are English, because you Speak English
The Japanese are Chinese, because the Chinese are Yellow
You are very very wrong, there are Whites all over the world
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ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 11:26 AM
But he's blonde!
:angel
then thats the brownest blonde I've ever seen.
Mixability
08-25-2005, 11:27 AM
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Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain <tired of continual sarcasms>
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i was referring to smeagol
smeagol
08-25-2005, 11:45 AM
ahhahahahahaah
That´s a Joke
In your words, the White Speak English
In your words, Tim Duncan is White, Shaq is White, because they Speak English, please read your words and you can Know then you are wrong
In your words, in Europe the Only Whites are the English, An Italian, a French, a German, a Dutch and a Danish aren´t whites
If this is Correct, you aren´t americans, you are English, because you Speak English
The Japanese are Chinese, because the Chinese are Yellow
You are very very wrong, there are Whites all over the world
Wally, leiste todos mis posts?
Fue una joda dedicada a algunos idiotas que postearon eso.
waly.mg
08-25-2005, 11:46 AM
then thats the brownest blonde I've ever seen.
Yes, Brown Eyes
smeagol
08-25-2005, 11:47 AM
i was referring to smeagol
RVB was spelling it out for you that I was being sarcastic. Unfortunately neither you nor wally understood it.
Mixability
08-25-2005, 11:54 AM
RVB was spelling it out for you that I was being sarcastic. Unfortunately neither you nor wally understood it.
:rolleyes
Summers
08-25-2005, 11:56 AM
then thats the brownest blonde I've ever seen.
:lmao There is a whole nother heated thread on this topic alone... I can just feel it!
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 11:58 AM
:lmao There is a whole nother heated thread on this topic alone... I can just feel it!
:lmao
well lets do this Summer! come on! lets go! lets do this :lmao
I'm telling you , Fabri's hair is a honey BROWN. It;s not blonde. :smokin
SequSpur
08-25-2005, 11:59 AM
My kids are white and hispanic.
White when they apply for a job.
Hispanic when they apply for school loans, cheese, assistance and housing.
:)
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:02 PM
My kids are white and hispanic.
White when they apply for a job.
Hispanic when they apply for school loans, cheese, assistance and housing.
:)
:tu
now thats what i'm talking about! :smokin
sa_butta
08-25-2005, 12:05 PM
My kids are white and hispanic.
White when they apply for a job.
Hispanic when they apply for school loans, cheese, assistance and housing.
:)My daughter will get the same luxury.
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:08 PM
:lmao
well lets do this Summer! come on! lets go! lets do this :lmao
I'm telling you , Fabri's hair is a honey BROWN. It;s not blonde. :smokin
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/bluepooh72/obertoblonde.jpg
blond also blonde
adj. blond·er, blond·est
1. Having fair hair and skin and usually light eyes: blond Scandinavians.
2. Of a flaxen or golden color or of any light shade of auburn or pale yellowish brown: blond hair.
3. Light-colored through bleaching: blond furniture.
hon·ey
n. pl. hon·eys
1.
1. A sweet yellowish or brownish viscid fluid produced by various bees from the nectar of flowers and used as food.
brown
n.
Any of a group of colors between red and yellow in hue that are medium to low in lightness and low to moderate in saturation
Oh, snap, Obi! You just contradicted yourself. You just admitted Oberto has honey brown hair and you can see by my meticulous research that honey is YELLOW!!!
Read it and weep, bitch!
:lmao
Mixability
08-25-2005, 12:09 PM
My kids are white and hispanic.
White when they apply for a job.
Hispanic when they apply for school loans, cheese, assistance and housing.
:)
cheese?
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:13 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/bluepooh72/obertoblonde.jpg
Oh, snap, Obi! You just contradicted yourself. You just admitted Oberto has honey brown hair and you can see by my meticulous research that honey is YELLOW!!!
Read it and weep, bitch!
:lmao
aggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!! :oops :depressed
wait.. wait......... yes, i see it!! HAHA!!!
you are wrong !
any light shade of auburn qualifies as blonde??? :wtf whatever auburn is RED baby.
so right there your informant is flawed and therefore not credible! :fro
:lmao
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:15 PM
cheese?
the yummy government cheese you get in these huge foot long blocks, right about the smae time they give you a big can that sats "meat" and a huge sack of powder that says "milk".
Mixability
08-25-2005, 12:16 PM
the yummy government cheese you get in these huge foot long blocks, right about the smae time they give you a big can that sats "meat" and a huge sack of powder that says "milk".
oh yeah the box cheese! i'm having a craving for some King Vitamin cereal now!
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:19 PM
King vitamin is 2nd only to Marshmellow Mateys.
Mixability
08-25-2005, 12:22 PM
King vitamin is 2nd only to Marshmellow Mateys.
never had those, i might have to pick up a box..... er i mean bag :lol
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:22 PM
the yummy government cheese you get in these huge foot long blocks, right about the smae time they give you a big can that sats "meat" and a huge sack of powder that says "milk".
:lol Gross. WIC has apparently come a long way. My husband lost his job right after I had the baby and we were on, um, government assistance for a few months. They just give you vouchers for a few free staples each month. YOu can buy the regular stuff, but it usually has to be the generic brand. Meaning we got the HEB Longhorn cheddar.
SequSpur
08-25-2005, 12:24 PM
HEB Longhorn Cheddar rules.
10 years ago, when I was in the military, if you were enlisted, you automatically qualified for WIC.
I was cheesing, milking, cerealing and juicing like a mofo.
Horry For 3!
08-25-2005, 12:24 PM
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6894/oberto200x3008jh.jpg
And the winner is......
Honey Brown. Go get your prizes soon, Obi.
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:26 PM
:lol Gross. WIC has apparently come a long way. My husband lost his job right after I had the baby and we were on, um, government assistance for a few months. They just give you vouchers for a few free staples each month. YOu can buy the regular stuff, but it usually has to be the generic brand. Meaning we got the HEB Longhorn cheddar.
I'm on wic, nothign bad about it.
And word up: if you go to Walmart you can get any brand you want as long as it;s wiothin the guidelines set out by WIC.
HEB likes to set there own damn guidelines, nazi bastards.
ChumpDumper
08-25-2005, 12:29 PM
Where is Rodney White anyway?
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:29 PM
aggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!! :oops :depressed
wait.. wait......... yes, i see it!! HAHA!!!
you are wrong !
any light shade of auburn qualifies as blonde??? :wtf whatever auburn is RED baby.
so right there your informant is flawed and therefore not credible! :fro
:lmao
au·burn ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôbrn)
n.
A moderate reddish brown to brown.
Ha!
Oh, wait... crap! That doesn't do it. Well, then...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/bluepooh72/tdfoblonde.jpg
You can clearly see in this pic he is very blonde! Must be better lighting!
Okay, I just wanted an excuse to post that pic.
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:29 PM
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6894/oberto200x3008jh.jpg
And the winner is......
Honey Brown. Go get your prizes soon, Obi.
Damn straight!
http://www.nba.com/media/espanol/oberto_camiseta_250.jpg
:elephant Summers = :owned
Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 12:30 PM
Where is Rodney White anyway?
I was wondering the same thing too. Have you heard his name at all in this free agency period?? Maybe the Spurs can just sign him for the minimum and he can be this season's reclamation project.
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:31 PM
Ha!
Oh, wait... crap! That doesn't do it. Well, then...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/bluepooh72/tdfoblonde.jpg
You can clearly see in this pic he is very blonde! Must be better lighting!
Okay, I just wanted an excuse to post that pic.
:lmao :lmao :lmao
you know what would be really important?
if we could 1st argue then finally decided who qualifys as brown haird and blonde
2nd see if we could get 5 blondes on and NBA floor, or 5 brown haired players.....
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:32 PM
I'm on wic, nothign bad about it.
And word up: if you go to Walmart you can get any brand you want as long as it;s wiothin the guidelines set out by WIC.
HEB likes to set there own damn guidelines, nazi bastards.
My HEB never had their little pink signs up, so I could never remember which eggs or cereal I was supposed to get. IT was so embarrassing to be at the check-out counter, holding up the line, and for them, to go, Oh, you can't get this brand of Raisin Bran, would you like us to run and get you the right kind?
SequSpur
08-25-2005, 12:33 PM
My HEB never had their little pink signs up, so I could never remember which eggs or cereal I was supposed to get. IT was so embarrassing to be at the check-out counter, holding up the line, and for them, to go, Oh, you can't get this brand of Raisin Bran, would you like us to run and get you the right kind?
or trying to use your lone star card to buy some Strawberry Hill.
:lol
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:35 PM
My HEB never had their little pink signs up, so I could never remember which eggs or cereal I was supposed to get. IT was so embarrassing to be at the check-out counter, holding up the line, and for them, to go, Oh, you can't get this brand of Raisin Bran, would you like us to run and get you the right kind?
thats why I always bring my WIC guide. they'd try to tell me i couldn;t get something and I'd be like "look bitch, it says right here i can".. and they'd be like " well this is HEB and we think we are god so we changed the rules"... then I'd just go to WalMart... or the WIC only store on Fred Rd. :princess
SequSpur
08-25-2005, 12:36 PM
or the WIC only store on Fred Rd. :princess
Is that what that place is? I thought it was a high end car dealership with all those SUVs, sports cars and luxury automobiles going in and out of there.
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:36 PM
:elephant Summers = :owned
All right, all right... I can accept defeat like a man... which means I'll get really pissed off and give you a couple of these... :flipoff ... and tell you you're stupid.
:lol
Who appointed Horryfor3 judge and jury, anyway??
Would it still be okay to keep posting pics of Fabri for further consideration?
ChumpDumper
08-25-2005, 12:38 PM
Have you heard his name at all in this free agency period??Not a peep, but I guess he could be plan C or D for a few teams.
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:39 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
you know what would be really important?
if we could 1st argue then finally decided who qualifys as brown haird and blonde
2nd see if we could get 5 blondes on and NBA floor, or 5 brown haired players.....
We might be hard-pressed to find 5 blondes in the NBA... based on your narrow-minded definition of "blonde".
:rolleyes
:lol
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:45 PM
All right, all right... I can accept defeat like a man... which means I'll get really pissed off and give you a couple of these... :flipoff ... and tell you you're stupid.
:lmao :lmao
Would it still be okay to keep posting pics of Fabri for further consideration?
:tu now that sounds like a plan! :smokin
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 12:45 PM
We might be hard-pressed to find 5 blondes in the NBA... based on your narrow-minded definition of "blonde".
:rolleyes
:lol
s o r e l o s e r :elephant
ShoogarBear
08-25-2005, 12:52 PM
My kids are white and hispanic.
White when they apply for a job.
Hispanic when they apply for school loans, cheese, assistance and housing.
:)
Hopefully they'll never have to be "tall".
Horry For 3!
08-25-2005, 12:52 PM
All right, all right... I can accept defeat like a man... which means I'll get really pissed off and give you a couple of these... :flipoff ... and tell you you're stupid.
:lol
Who appointed Horryfor3 judge and jury, anyway??
Would it still be okay to keep posting pics of Fabri for further consideration?
I can own you! I know your weak spot....don't make me type it in here. ;)
Summers
08-25-2005, 12:57 PM
I can own you! I know your weak spot....don't make me type it in here. ;)
:oops
My bad.
Carry on.
Obi wins. Congrats and stuff. Excellent fight. HOpe to do it again soon.
Horry For 3!
08-25-2005, 12:59 PM
:oops
My bad.
Carry on.
Obi wins. Congrats and stuff. Excellent fight. HOpe to do it again soon.
You just have officially been OWNED by Horry. :smokin
Summers
08-25-2005, 01:01 PM
Damnit! How can I be owned twice in the same thread??
ObiwanGinobili
08-25-2005, 01:02 PM
damn.
that was too easy.
i'm almost dissapointed.
almost.:elephant.
lathough I pretty much won once you had to use paint on a photo...:lol
Horry For 3!
08-25-2005, 01:02 PM
Damnit! How can I be owned twice in the same thread??
Because...i'm just that good. :lol
Summers
08-25-2005, 01:07 PM
damn.
that was too easy.
i'm almost dissapointed.
almost.:elephant.
lathough I pretty much won once you had to use paint on a photo...:lol
Yeah, I suppose cheating should've automatically disqualified me...
=Horry for 3!Because...i'm just that good.
No, you were just bored that night and actually read through that entire thread! :lol
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
08-25-2005, 01:09 PM
What do you like the most:
The Spurs in white?
In silver?
Or black?
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