Battleground Texas

[RandomGuy]

Went to a Democratic event over the weekend.

It is interesting seeing the Democratic party, long moribund, start building itself up again.

Simple demographics will give the state consistently to the Dems in about 10 years, but this movement will probably accelerate that somewhat.

Talked to a fellow from the Davis campaign about the ins and outs and whys and wherefores of the campaign. He was, of course, optimistic, and pointed out some interesting things about their strategy of pushing voter turnout.

I don't estimate that Davis will win, given her polling is enough behind, but we will see. I will have to start paying attention to the polls.

A bit of additional info on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleground_Texas

[baseline bum]

Yay, we'll have Clinton-Gore style Democrat douchebags running the state into the ground in 10 years instead of bible thumping Republican douchebags running the state into the ground like now.

[boutons_deux]

"give the state consistently to the Dems in about 10 years"

Depends on whether the Hispanics and blacks turn out to vote, and whether Repug gerrymandering can be overcome.

Professorial overview of TX re-districting

http://redistricting.lls.edu/states-TX.php#litigation

[Spurminator]

Texas Attorney General (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Attorney_General) and Republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)) gubernatorial candidate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_gubernatorial_election,_2014) Greg Abbott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Abbott) said that Battleground Texas represented a greater threat than North Korea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea), calling Texas the "last line of defense" against a Democratic presidential victory.

:lol

[RandomGuy]

:lol

Needed to win Presidency: 270 electoral college votes.

Texas = 38

New York = 29

California = 55

38+29+55= 122

122/270 = .45185185...


45% of all the votes needed to win the presidency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)

Need just 148 more out of 538. 538-122= 416 left to pick. 148/416= .35, or 35%

Win three states and 35% of the remainder, and you have a president.

GOP is facing losing relevance for a generation.

I really wonder how the tea party will react to getting ruthlessly crushed or cast aside by a Republican party that actually wants to win elections.

Talk at the table indicated some think that the GOP will do this, I have my doubts. I think talk radio has sealed the fate of the GOP, and the all to human propensity to live in an information bubble will do the rest. I am really not sure the GOP will be able to recover being taken over by the tea party wing.

[DarrinS]

Simple demographics will give the state consistently to the Dems in about 10 years, but this movement will probably accelerate that somewhat.



Translation: Brown people will vote for Dems by default.

[DarrinS]

Good thing the Dems don't take that voting block for granted.

[RandomGuy]

Translation: Brown people will vote for Dems by default.

Yes, they will, because the Republican party shits on them at every turn.

Your posts consistently show why this is the case, with the rampant disdainful tone you take any time people of color are mentioned.

What I call the Republican "war on the poor" comes from words where any time someone who is poor (always referring to "brown people" of one sort or another) is mentioned, they are that way because of some personal failing. "just don't work hard enough".

The tone-deaf message that people like you beat on, day after day, year after year, and you are somehow shocked that these people are ungratefully voting for the party you don't like?

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

Good thing the Dems don't take that voting block for granted.

Do we?

Do we really?

When I actually go to a meetings with real Democrats, I don't think the energized hispanic candidates I saw felt "taken for granted". They were there representing their community in a way the GOP doesn't. I felt very comfortable with that.

I don't see it as taken for granted so much as given a voice.

[DarrinS]

Do we?

Do we really?

When I actually go to a meetings with real Democrats, I don't think the energized hispanic candidates I saw felt "taken for granted". They were there representing their community in a way the GOP doesn't. I felt very comfortable with that.

I don't see it as taken for granted so much as given a voice.


Yes, I'm sure you share so many core beliefs with those Catholics. They have economic needs and the Dems buy their votes.

[Trainwreck2100]

lol nominating abortion barbie

[HI-FI]

Yay, we'll have Clinton-Gore style Democrat douchebags running the state into the ground in 10 years instead of bible thumping Republican douchebags running the state into the ground like now.
pretty much this. i guess the strategy is to overrun the state with illegals like California, then when it becomes a bankrupt shithole blame it on capitalism or something.

lol nominating abortion barbie
i thought she was a good looking bitch then i saw this older pic....
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CeWgGTaa8uw/Ug6V7JnBZhI/AAAAAAAAAfE/19qwNOZ3qX8/s1600/wendy-davis-harvard-picture.jpg
looks more like a baby murderer in dis one....

[Trainwreck2100]

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i thought she was a good looking bitch then i saw this older pic....
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CeWgGTaa8uw/Ug6V7JnBZhI/AAAAAAAAAfE/19qwNOZ3qX8/s1600/wendy-davis-harvard-picture.jpg
looks more like a baby murderer in dis one....

I still need to get confirmation that she in fact divorced her husband after he helped her pay off her student loans. Cause then i'd not vote for her on principle

[HI-FI]

I still need to get confirmation that she in fact divorced her husband after he helped her pay off her student loans. Cause then i'd not vote for her on principle
never heard that, but if true that's very fucked up and would piss me off more than her love of abortion. i generally don't get too caught up in pro life/choice debates anyways.

[Th'Pusher]

never heard that, but if true that's very fucked up and would piss me off more than her love of abortion. i generally don't get too caught up in pro life/choice debates anyways.
Then why does her support of abortion piss you off? BTW - supporting a woman's right to have an abortion does not mean you love abortion.

[HI-FI]

Then why does her support of abortion piss you off? BTW - supporting a woman's right to have an abortion does not mean you love abortion.
her love of abortion doesn't really piss me off, i'm more pro life but ultimately don't like telling women they can't stick Hoovers in their pussies. Trainwreck's story about screwing over her husband pisses me off moreso.

[Th'Pusher]

her love of abortion doesn't really piss me off, i'm more pro life but ultimately don't like telling women they can't stick Hoovers in their pussies. Trainwreck's story about screwing over her husband pisses me off moreso.
So you lied when you said "...but if true that's very fucked up and would piss me off more than her love of abortion."

Do you honestly believe she loves abortion? Does she celebrate abortion? I see you playing the old, I don't really give a shit one way or the other card, but let's be honest, you're obviously pretty emotional about the topic which is why you insist on framing it as a "love for abortion" as opposed to simply stating her position which is to support a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregnancy.

[HI-FI]

So you lied when you said "...but if true that's very fucked up and would piss me off more than her love of abortion."

Do you honestly believe she loves abortion? Does she celebrate abortion? I see you playing the old, I don't really give a shit one way or the other card, but let's be honest, you're obviously pretty emotional about the topic which is why you insist on framing it as a "love for abortion" as opposed to simply stating her position which is to support a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregnancy.



:lol
what's with you and the emotional card?
i'm not that big on this debate. I figured a phrase like "love of abortion" would get partisan types like yourself upset or "emotional". I think about abortion as much as gay marriage, which is very rarely. Trainwreck's story, if true, disgusts me more like I said above.

[Th'Pusher]

:lol
what's with you and the emotional card?
i'm not that big on this debate. I figured a phrase like "love of abortion" would get partisan types like yourself upset or "emotional".

Ahh. The I was just trolling schtick. I was just asking for you to clarify your own statements.

But, while we're on the subject, if your SO (assuming she's female) approached you and told you she was pregnant but was not ready or interested in having the baby and planned to abort it, what do you say HI-FI? So whatcha gonna do?

[m>s]

i think the real texas rednecks and 10th generation tejanos would start up a 2nd texas war for independence before texas ever goes blue.

[HI-FI]

Ahh. The I was just trolling schtick. I was just asking for you to clarify your own statements.

But, while we're on the subject, if your SO (assuming she's female) approached you and told you she was pregnant but was not ready or interested in having the baby and planned to abort it, what do you say HI-FI? So whatcha gonna do?
uppercut her to the gut maybe?

i don't know. we wouldn't stay together that long if she's nonchalant about it. I imagine the relationship would not work out long term unless I became a total cuck.

[Th'Pusher]

uppercut her to the gut maybe?

i don't know. we wouldn't stay together that long if she's nonchalant about it. I imagine the relationship would not work out long term unless I became a total cuck.
Who said she was nonchalant about it? Say she put some real though into it. She decided she was not emotionally/financially ready to have a child. Whatcha gonna do?

[m>s]

why are you asking him if he'd be a cuck to a degenerate woman? based on your postings we should be asking you what you'd do.

[HI-FI]

"....bad boys...bad boys"

this is starting to get weird from the emotional types.

[Th'Pusher]

why are you asking him if he'd be a cuck to a degenerate woman? based on your postings we should be asking you what you'd do.

No Cuck. It's his baby. He put his little HI_FI chipshot on her egg and fertilized a baby. She discovered she was pregnant and decided she wasn't ready to have a child and was going to abort the fetus. I was simply asking how he'd respond. He doesn't seem to be able to form a coherent response.

[m>s]

i don't mean a literal cuck, i mean being a bitch to a degenerate woman who wants to kill his kid. trust me if she's having abortions, shes also cheating on him and walking all over him. this is how "liberal women" and feminists act...stay far away.

[HI-FI]

i don't mean a literal cuck, i mean being a bitch to a degenerate woman who wants to kill his kid. trust me if she's having abortions, shes also cheating on him and walking all over him. this is how "liberal women" and feminists act...stay far away.
this is exactly what happened to one of my oldest friends in college. he is such a pushover, just abandons his friends and does what they say, including an abortion. she ended up dumping him not long after the abortion and had another guy in the bullpen, ready to shoot more loads. Sad but I've tried my best to avoid bitches like this.

[RandomGuy]

Yes, I'm sure you share so many core beliefs with those Catholics. They have economic needs and the Dems buy their votes.

I guess, if by "buy their votes" you mean give them a place at the table.

Really machiavellian that.

If you want to go down that line of reasoning, how many votes does the GOP "buy" with its policies that almost exclusively benefit the hyper-wealthy?

[RandomGuy]

her love of abortion doesn't really piss me off, i'm more pro life but ultimately don't like telling women they can't stick Hoovers in their pussies. Trainwreck's story about screwing over her husband pisses me off moreso.

Well, the alternative is Greg Abbott, who seems to think a good use of taxpayer money is defending statues of the 10 commandments.

Supreme Court ultimately ruled it constitutional, by a narrow 5-4 margin. Thus opening the gate for the Church of Satan to propose their own statue. (not making that up)

[tlongII]

I guess, if by "buy their votes" you mean give them a place at the table.

Really machiavellian that.

If you want to go down that line of reasoning, how many votes does the GOP "buy" with its policies that almost exclusively benefit the hyper-wealthy?

I'm going to assume you realize that doesn't make sense.

[RandomGuy]

I'm going to assume you realize that doesn't make sense.

It does, especially when one considers the quotes.

Inherent in that is that you can't "buy" someone who is hyper-wealthy, but you sure can create policies that favor them, and thus create a situation wherein you make it clear whose side you are on, thus providing impetus for getting that demographic to support you, quid pro quo.

This for that = "buy"

[tlongII]

It does, especially when one considers the quotes.

Inherent in that is that you can't "buy" someone who is hyper-wealthy, but you sure can create policies that favor them, and thus create a situation wherein you make it clear whose side you are on, thus providing impetus for getting that demographic to support you, quid pro quo.

This for that = "buy"

If the hyper-wealthy make up 1% as many dems claim what is the impetus of "buying" their votes? 1% isn't going to win you very many elections.

[DarrinS]

If the hyper-wealthy make up 1% as many dems claim what is the impetus of "buying" their votes? 1% isn't going to win you very many elections.

This

[m>s]

Random cuck isn't serious right now is he? I read that earlier and was wondering if I was the only one who noticed that. I'm not sure what he means but what he actually said and what he meant to say are two different things.

[boutons_deux]

If the hyper-wealthy make up 1% as many dems claim what is the impetus of "buying" their votes? 1% isn't going to win you very many elections.

the 1%'s money buys plenty of politicians. It's the politicians who enrich the 1%, not voters.

[Th'Pusher]

If the hyper-wealthy make up 1% as many dems claim what is the impetus of "buying" their votes? 1% isn't going to win you very many elections.
The GOP understands buying the wealthy won't win them elections, so they rely on wedge issues and gullible morons voting against thei own financial interest by selling the unrealistic idea that anyone can be wealthy. Joe the plumber complaint about taxing people making over 250k because he believes he's going to make that someday when he owns his own plmbining company! Fucking morons.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If the hyper-wealthy make up 1% as many dems claim what is the impetus of "buying" their votes? 1% isn't going to win you very many elections.

This is so ignorant it is not even funny. It's called marketing, access, and influence that the very wealthy have as opposed to anyone who cannot budget 5 and 6 figure campaign contributions.

[DarrinS]

This is so ignorant it is not even funny. It's called marketing, access, and influence that the very wealthy have as opposed to anyone who cannot budget 5 and 6 figure campaign contributions.

Unions are dirt poor. FuzzyFail

[pgardn]

The State of Texas will have to appeal the school funding issue. They lost.

Abbott says they will appeal just like they do any ruling against the State.

So he is staying clear of a real opinion of how schools are overfunded until after the election.
Cmon man, you are in a red state, say it now clearly, and with conviction.

[boutons_deux]

"Dietz discussed what he called the "civic, altruistic and economic" reasons for supporting public education."

https://www.texastribune.org/2014/08/28/judge-issues-school-finance-ruling/

:lol those reasons are SOCIALISM to randian/racist/xenophobic TX Repugs.

[SnakeBoy]

Went to a Democratic event over the weekend.

It is interesting seeing the Democratic party, long moribund, start building itself up again.

Simple demographics will give the state consistently to the Dems in about 10 years, but this movement will probably accelerate that somewhat.

Talked to a fellow from the Davis campaign about the ins and outs and whys and wherefores of the campaign. He was, of course, optimistic, and pointed out some interesting things about their strategy of pushing voter turnout.

I don't estimate that Davis will win, given her polling is enough behind, but we will see. I will have to start paying attention to the polls.

A bit of additional info on this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleground_Texas

Well that was a weekend you can never get back.

[DarrinS]

Well that was a weekend you can never get back.

:lmao

[angrydude]

I don't believe this demographics change in texas for one minute. You know why? Most people don't care about politics. Most people just want to be accepted in whatever cultural norm they are in. If they think everyone votes republican, they'll vote republican. If they think everyone votes democrat, they'll vote democrat.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Unions are dirt poor. FuzzyFail

Unions are just a different type of corporate entity and is just another part of the problem. Police and teacher union actions to stong-arm legislatures are a blight.

I am not a dem, dipshit.

[boutons_deux]

unions are the only power employees have against employers.

that's why the Repugs,VRWC have worked so hard and long to crush unions. Now, BigCorps don't "strong arm" politicians, they simply buy them, quid pro quo corruption. That's why Repugs/VRWC are trying to destroy public education, fire the unionized teachers, and hire shit teachers for charter scams.

[Aztecfan03]

Unions are just a different type of corporate entity and is just another part of the problem. Police and teacher union actions to stong-arm legislatures are a blight.

I am not a dem, dipshit.

For once I agree with you. I like what unions were originally intended for but I think it is ridiculous that people pay union dues and then the unions to spend so much on campaigns. And it seems like the often aren't working for their workers best interests.

[Slutter McGee]

unions are the only power employees have against employers.

that's why the Repugs,VRWC have worked so hard and long to crush unions. Now, BigCorps don't "strong arm" politicians, they simply buy them, quid pro quo corruption. That's why Repugs/VRWC are trying to destroy public education, fire the unionized teachers, and hire shit teachers for charter scams.

Hey dipshit. I am a Republican. Not a Repug. And we kicked your fucking ass last night.

Slutter McGee

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hey dipshit. I am a Republican. Not a Repug. And we kicked your fucking ass last night.

Slutter McGee

The GOP since the failure of Bush 1 has made an effort to concentrate on the off year elections and try and compete on the presidential years. It was James Bakker and Roger Ailes strategy and remains to this day.

OTOH, Obama's machine has moved onto Hillary and are very openly preparing for 2016.

Between the GOP chair's strat and gerrymandering, the GOP has done well for itself but I wouldn't be too confident in taking over the WH and keeping congress if Paul and co are the best candidates you have to present the country in 2 years.

[RandomGuy]

Well that was a weekend you can never get back.

Hmm. Did you miss the part where I said that it didn't look like she would win?

It will be a few more election cycles before anything really competitive will be seen at the state-wide level in Texas.

I will still be a bit more active in the Democratic party in the next few years.

[RandomGuy]

:lmao

Smiley boy strikes again.

Don't strain yourself.

[SnakeBoy]

Hmm. Did you miss the part where I said that it didn't look like she would win?

It will be a few more election cycles before anything really competitive will be seen at the state-wide level in Texas.

I will still be a bit more active in the Democratic party in the next few years.

Well Good Luck with that.

[DarrinS]

What part of Texas does this accent come from? Sounds like Orange County, CA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIolQPkF6sw

[pgardn]

What part of Texas does this accent come from? Sounds like Orange County, CA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIolQPkF6sw

Awh shucks Cletus, she don't talk right.
And where is thet get dem Stetson hat and starched shirt...

Texas is for Texans who care about Texas while thinking in Texan.
If Texas was not for Texans, then it would not be Texas.
Standard republican Texan talk in the great state of Texas.

That good for you, Darrin?

[RandomGuy]

Well Good Luck with that.

Luck will have nothing to do with it.

The GOP will continue to be its racist, homophobic self, and continue to alienate hispanics, despite shameless, ham-handed pandering.

What I will be pushing from within our state wing is for Democrats to figure out that the route to wresting control of the state is to stop taking Hispanics for granted and actually advocate for them in a way that is respectful and addresses their concerns as a whole.

A reasonable path to citizenship, and additional social services to provide a ladder out of the pit of poverty would do just fine. All one has to do then is to sit back and let the GOP self-destruct with talk of amnesty and dirty brown people not deserving handouts. Might even get people like vy65 to advocate children starving to death as a solution to poverty again. Stuff like that makes my job as a Democrat a lot easier, and even you know it.

Simple really.

[101A]

unions are the only power employees have against employers.

As an employer: this statement is bullshit.

[boutons_deux]

As an employer: this statement is bullshit.

employees without unions, without the protection of employment contracts, are totally without power, EXACTLY how the decades-long War on Employees intended, and it intends to keep it that way.

[SnakeBoy]

Luck will have nothing to do with it.

The GOP will continue to be its racist, homophobic self, and continue to alienate hispanics, despite shameless, ham-handed pandering.

What I will be pushing from within our state wing is for Democrats to figure out that the route to wresting control of the state is to stop taking Hispanics for granted and actually advocate for them in a way that is respectful and addresses their concerns as a whole.

A reasonable path to citizenship, and additional social services to provide a ladder out of the pit of poverty would do just fine. All one has to do then is to sit back and let the GOP self-destruct with talk of amnesty and dirty brown people not deserving handouts. Might even get people like vy65 to advocate children starving to death as a solution to poverty again. Stuff like that makes my job as a Democrat a lot easier, and even you know it.

Simple really.

:lol

I'm sure you are still stinging from the election results and not thinking clearly but that's really no reason to go full bouton's.

[boutons_deux]

Proving how hilariously DUMB he is:

RNC Chair: GOP 'Could Have A Problem' In Texas If We're Not Careful


http://a5.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/fsd6vfcbjppch6cipzoe.jpg

Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus said Friday that he believed the party needed to take the threat of Democrats becoming competitive in Texas seriously or it could start turning purple by the end of the decade.

Though Republican Greg Abbott trounced Democrat Wendy Davis in the gubernatorial race on Tuesday -- which lead commentators like Red State's Erick Erickson to say that the Democratic Battleground Texas initiative got "curbstomped" -- Priebus said the national and state party had taken it "pretty seriously."

"I do believe that Battleground Texas did a lot of work down there. They woke up the party," Priebus told reporters at the Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington, D.C. "If we don't start paying attention ... it's possible the party could have a problem in years to come."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gop-battleground-texas-reince-priebus?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

TX is so viciously gerrymandered, the TX legislature so totally owned by BigCarbon, Dems don't have but the tiniest of chance to take statewide offices.