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Uriel
08-30-2014, 07:37 AM
505694159702085632

100%duncan
08-30-2014, 07:40 AM
FUCK.

Uriel
08-30-2014, 07:40 AM
FUCK.
This isn't the Gilas game. :lol

bigfan
08-30-2014, 08:30 AM
better that ayres

Blizzardwizard
08-30-2014, 08:32 AM
Feelings, stop playing with them FO :cry

100%duncan
08-30-2014, 08:45 AM
This isn't the Gilas game. :lol

You watched it? Chot choked in regulation, didn't call a timeout.

OT: Fuck ray allen man.

timtonymanu
08-30-2014, 09:12 AM
Allen would make more sense than Ayon considering our roster needs.

Don't see it happening though. He'll go to Cleveland if aanything.

100%duncan
08-30-2014, 09:14 AM
Allen would make more sense than Ayon considering our roster needs.

Don't see it happening though. He'll go to Cleveland if aanything.

He's a liability on D. I'd rather have Beli playing more minutes than him and Allen sharing plus of course the money it would take.

timtonymanu
08-30-2014, 09:20 AM
I'm not in favor of signing him anyway. But the Spurs need more guards than bigs at the moment..he's Cleveland bound imo.

TheGreatYacht
08-30-2014, 09:27 AM
A HOF joining the Spurs? Naaaa

Trade for Bogdan Bogdanovic...

Anyone?

spursparker9
08-30-2014, 09:32 AM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/Nononono.gif

baseline bum
08-30-2014, 09:34 AM
I'd love to have Ray Allen. Teams always need shooters, and especially when Mills is going to be out so long and Ginobili has a stress fracture. Seems like a no-brainer to dump Ayres for a guard who can shoot.

spursparker9
08-30-2014, 09:38 AM
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SpursDynasty21
08-30-2014, 09:45 AM
With Allen wanting to play for a contender, I was curious if the Spurs would be mentioned.

RD2191
08-30-2014, 09:47 AM
I'd love to have Ray Allen. Teams always need shooters, and especially when Mills is going to be out so long and Ginobili has a stress fracture. Seems like a no-brainer to dump Ayres for a guard who can shoot.
faggot

Chinook
08-30-2014, 09:49 AM
Allen would be a horrible pickup. They need a third PG, or besides that, a small-forward who can shoot. Ray adds neither skill-set. Much rather have Daye.

superbigtime
08-30-2014, 09:52 AM
Seeing is believing.

ChumpDumper
08-30-2014, 09:55 AM
I don't see his being ready for such a reduced role.

DPG21920
08-30-2014, 10:10 AM
If they plan on moving Beli, sure.

baseline bum
08-30-2014, 10:13 AM
faggot

Just get back to picking my strawberries son. Break over.

RD2191
08-30-2014, 10:14 AM
Just get back to picking my strawberries son. Break over.
:wakeup

Malik Hairston
08-30-2014, 10:14 AM
He's really mediocre at this point of his career, tbh, and as Chump said, I highly doubt he would be willing to accept a role at the end of the bench..

This isn't the 80s or 90s, it's much more difficult for washed up role players to play at a high level in today's NBA, they're easily exploitable once they begin to break down..

Also, fuck Ray Allen, I don't want to see that pussy nigga in a Spurs jersey..

Kawhi
08-30-2014, 10:17 AM
Fuck Ray Allen, ima kill that nigga

RD2191
08-30-2014, 10:21 AM
Fuck Ray Allen, ima kill that nigga
:lmao

Dverde
08-30-2014, 10:21 AM
He will not sign with the Spurs. He can't do that "if you can't beat'em join'em" thing twice. My guess he will stay in Miami for one more year and retire. He doesn't want to look like LBJ's puppy who follows him around.

Chinook
08-30-2014, 10:36 AM
He will not sign with the Spurs. He can't do that "if you can't beat'em join'em" thing twice. My guess he will stay in Miami for one more year and retire. He doesn't want to look like LBJ's puppy who follows him around.

He should go to Dallas. They could use his shooting.

florige
08-30-2014, 10:36 AM
He's not coming the SA. I thought he made it perfectly clear that he was going to coat tail wherever LBJ went.

baseline bum
08-30-2014, 10:41 AM
He's really mediocre at this point of his career, tbh, and as Chump said, I highly doubt he would be willing to accept a role at the end of the bench..

This isn't the 80s or 90s, it's much more difficult for washed up role players to play at a high level in today's NBA, they're easily exploitable once they begin to break down..

Also, fuck Ray Allen, I don't want to see that pussy nigga in a Spurs jersey..

He wouldn't necessarily be at the end of the bench until late February. I'd love to have him so the team can get Ginobili lots of rest this season again.

jeebus
08-30-2014, 10:58 AM
Ray was a non issue in the playoffs. He's done.

Dex
08-30-2014, 11:08 AM
If there is a report out about it, that probably means it's even less likely to happen.

Mugen
08-30-2014, 11:18 AM
Fuck that nigga tbh.

phxspurfan
08-30-2014, 11:22 AM
Eh, that's probably his people floating the Spurs to get more money from the Cavs. He and LeBron are buds, and everyone knows he's going to follow him to Cleveland.

rayray2k8
08-30-2014, 11:35 AM
No.. Just.. NO

Darius McCrary
08-30-2014, 12:34 PM
fuck ray allen

tmtcsc
08-30-2014, 01:02 PM
If the guy could produce I'd say its worth considering. At this point though, he's nothing but insurance and dude's ego won't allow for it. He's a ring chaser and mediocre at best. I'd like someone who can actually play some defense and drive to the hoop.

baseline bum
08-30-2014, 01:10 PM
Eh, that's probably his people floating the Spurs to get more money from the Cavs. He and LeBron are buds, and everyone knows he's going to follow him to Cleveland.

Cleveland doesn't have any money. All they can offer is the minimum. Maybe he's trying to get paid more in Miami.

Chomag
08-30-2014, 01:12 PM
wutt.... plz no!

SupremeGuy
08-30-2014, 01:15 PM
Fuck Ray Allen, ima kill that niggaThis guy gets it. :toast

ElNono
08-30-2014, 01:16 PM
:madrun

look_at_g_shred
08-30-2014, 01:16 PM
The guy is good for big shots. I say do it if he wants to come here.

DrSteffo
08-30-2014, 01:43 PM
Fuck him.

100%duncan
08-30-2014, 01:48 PM
The guy is good for big shots. I say do it if he wants to come here.

Yes he is. Oh we know that.

Godbama
08-30-2014, 01:49 PM
Are there still Spurs fans hating and bitter about Ray Allen? That's pretty sad, not that I'm calling you guys sad, just the whole situation since I just figured most Spurs fans had been freed from that shit by the catharsis of this last championship like I was. Yeah, I guess you could be like "WE COULD'VE HAD BOTH CHAMPIONSHIPS" but it always did feel like the heartbreak of one helped fuel the vengeance of the other, not that I'm saying I don't think we could've won 2013 and also won 2014. We've got this coming year though, that's always been my attitude as a Spurs fan. There's no sentimental aspect of Ray Allen to me. Is it that much more different than Robert Horry coming on board after the Lakers?
I guess if I don't necessarily want Ray Allen on the team it has more to do with whether or not he's got enough left in the tank on both sides of the court to be worth it. Maybe? Maybe not?
Probably it's just yet another situation of the Spurs being floated around so that he can get more money elsewhere.

Juggity
08-30-2014, 01:51 PM
http://i.imgur.com/W5lnwsJ.jpg

Budkin
08-30-2014, 01:58 PM
Sure why not?

DrSteffo
08-30-2014, 02:05 PM
Sure why not?
Because he is a wanker?

Spurs9
08-30-2014, 02:14 PM
Get over it already, 6 is in the past.

DrSteffo
08-30-2014, 02:19 PM
Yes get over it already. Ray Allen is no longer relevant.

cd98
08-30-2014, 02:19 PM
Ray Allen in limited minutes for the Spurs would be great. People forget the unstoppableness of the Spurs offense is predicated on spacing. Ray Allen can definitely space. And at this point in his career, SA>Cleaveland.

Joseph Kony
08-30-2014, 02:23 PM
Nothing wrong with adding the best shooter in NBA history to our legendary offense. Allen, even in a reduced role, would thrive in SA's system at this point in his career. All he has to do is spot up from three and he will feast on open looks tbh

cjw
08-30-2014, 02:32 PM
A guy who averages 10 points in the finals on 40% shooting from three is not necessarily washed up (and just south of that for the whole playoffs / regular season). Think about what he can do on a team where he's surrounded by four other competent players plus great ball movement, as opposed to one where he's got at least one or two replacement-level players around him.

I do worry on the ball handling front with both Patty and Manu out (let's see what CoJo can do in extended time). Ideally, they'd be able to jettison both Daye and Ayres and make room for both and a big. But front office must see something in Daye to give him a shot.

Allen's defense is subpar but at least he's not a Harden.

Big Empty
08-30-2014, 02:40 PM
Better on our team or the thunder or mavs

daslicer
08-30-2014, 02:59 PM
Ray is pretty old I don't think he has anything left. This guy will be a worse than what Finley was with the Spurs during his last few years here.

024
08-30-2014, 03:34 PM
Conflicted about this. Ray Allen is still serviceable and can fit well in Pop's system. He's good insurance if any of the wing players ever go down. He's also clutch whether Spurs fans like it or not. Putting him on the Spurs also keeps him away from OKC, Clippers, and the Cavs.

On the other had, he's pretty damn old and who knows how much he will drop off next year. But he's a seasoned vet and probably won't complain much if he's buried at the end of the bench due to a big drop off. Low risk and a decent reward.

Chris
08-30-2014, 04:03 PM
Never thought I'd see Michael Finley or Nick Van Exel in a Spurs uni and it happened. Personally though, fuck Ray Allen.

Richie
08-30-2014, 04:09 PM
He'd basically take Belinelli's spot which would be a shame because Marco was good for us in the regular season last year, but with Manu and Mills nursing injuries he could be useful to spot minutes for other guys.

weeks
08-30-2014, 04:26 PM
I can't even imagine this happening. Probably just using us as leverage

Dex
08-30-2014, 04:40 PM
For those who think this is a good idea...

Ray Allen robbed us of a title.

And he was a bitch every time he was guarded by Bowen.

Fuck off, Allen. Go chase a ring in Cleveland.

And this comes from someone who HATED Horry when he came, but at least he had something left in the tank.

Malik Hairston
08-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Declining shooter, only useful as a spot-up shooter nowadays, one of the 5 worst wing defenders in the league, 38 years old, etc..

He's just a name, tbh..

tmtcsc
08-30-2014, 05:35 PM
For those who think this is a good idea...

Ray Allen robbed us of a title.



Uh, this guy begs to differ:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/fancloud/img/9993/3261/manu_ginobili_21.jpg

spurraider21
08-30-2014, 05:50 PM
he's pointless, we have enough guards that can shoot. pop could also be a total faggot and play him in big minutes over green in late game spots

BatManu20
08-30-2014, 06:04 PM
Doubt it happens. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I don't see why he would come here over Cleveland anyways.

Thompson
08-30-2014, 06:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/W5lnwsJ.jpg

At the season opener, Ray Allen looks on as the Spurs receive their rings and retire Bruce Bowen's jersey - again. Popovich cut Allen from the team moments later.

G-Dawgg
08-30-2014, 06:24 PM
There would be nothing more satisfying than having Ray Allen hit a series clinching buzzer beater for us to beat Cleveland in the finals next year

-21-
08-30-2014, 06:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/W5lnwsJ.jpg

This is just wrong.

99 Problems
08-30-2014, 07:16 PM
Smoke screen for the Wiggins to Spurs monster trade coming tbh. :toast

Malik Hairston
08-30-2014, 07:33 PM
The only difference between Belinelli(a player that many Spurs fans disliked last year) and current Ray Allen is their name and previous career accomplishments, tbh..

silverblackfan
08-30-2014, 07:35 PM
At the season opener, Ray Allen looks on as the Spurs receive their rings and retire Bruce Bowen's jersey - again. Popovich cut Allen from the team moments later.
:lol

TE
08-30-2014, 07:43 PM
Good stuff on Allen's potential role on the Spurs.

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/quantitative-look-at-ray-allen-in-spurs-system.html

spurraider21
08-30-2014, 07:48 PM
this would be a waste of a signing given our roster

he's actually one of my favorite players of this generation, and i would have welcomed him here anytime... but we dont need a catch and shoot specialist at that position

dbestpro
08-30-2014, 08:52 PM
Can't help but think a Ray Allen signing would mean a Marco B. trade for a more serviceable, and bigger SF/PF to play backup.

Dex
08-30-2014, 08:59 PM
Uh, this guy begs to differ:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/fancloud/img/9993/3261/manu_ginobili_21.jpg

Ginobili redeemed himself.

Texas_Ranger
08-30-2014, 09:39 PM
Patty is gonna miss half the season, so Manu will most likely play the back up point and Marco could be the backup SF just like now. I don't see a problem with Ray Allen on this team. He would get a lot of open shots.

spurraider21
08-30-2014, 09:47 PM
since Joseph will be a free agent I'd rather hand him minutes as an audition than bring ray allen aboard.

Chinook
08-30-2014, 09:54 PM
Patty is gonna miss half the season, so Manu will most likely play the back up point and Marco could be the backup SF just like now. I don't see a problem with Ray Allen on this team. He would get a lot of open shots.

None of Manu, Allen or Beli can defend PGs. Joseph will get that spot. Ginobili will handle the ball, but he's still going to play two-guard.

tmtcsc
08-30-2014, 10:02 PM
Ginobili redeemed himself.

Yes he did. Just like I thought he would. It doesn't change the previous year though. Ray Allen didn't beat the Spurs and neither did Lebron James or anyone else on the Heat. That series belonged to the Spurs in 6 games and they gave it away. The Heat and Ray Allen gladly accepted.

hyhy
08-30-2014, 10:20 PM
I like it. Ray can actually drive to the hoop on occasions, and is clutch.

Marcus Bryant
08-30-2014, 10:54 PM
Good.

SpurPadre
08-30-2014, 11:40 PM
NO. MORE. OLD. FUCKS.

Dex
08-30-2014, 11:41 PM
Yes he did. Just like I thought he would. It doesn't change the previous year though. Ray Allen didn't beat the Spurs and neither did Lebron James or anyone else on the Heat. That series belonged to the Spurs in 6 games and they gave it away. The Heat and Ray Allen gladly accepted.

Sports are funny like that.

If everybody could hit a home run every time, then Babe Ruth wouldn't be a legend.

cd021
08-31-2014, 12:57 AM
Patty is gonna miss half the season, so Manu will most likely play the back up point and Marco could be the backup SF just like now. I don't see a problem with Ray Allen on this team. He would get a lot of open shots.

Cojo will have his shot but I wouldn't be suprised to see no point guard lineups at various points throughout the season. With Mani-Beli-Anderson/Daye-Diaw-and Ayers/Baynes.

If the Spurs somehow get Allen then that lineup with Allen sliding in at the 2 guard would be deadly. The foreign legion wasn't great defensively but blew teams doors off ,offensively.

Sean Cagney
08-31-2014, 02:04 AM
Ginobili redeemed himself.

Yes he did, and then some.

Spur|n|Austin
08-31-2014, 04:28 AM
Fuck Ray Allen, ima kill that nigga


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ak-KOP8NjsI

szkorhetz
08-31-2014, 05:44 AM
I think a bigger trade is about to happen. The recent news about Ayon and Allen as well as the previous training camp invites suggests, that the Spurs are trying to hide something more meaningful and bigger trade. CIA Pop is in action.

Chillen
08-31-2014, 07:08 AM
Doubt it happens. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but I don't see why he would come here over Cleveland anyways.

The Cavs are not the defending NBA champions, although ESPN and the media would make you think otherwise. IMO he hit a soul crushing shot against the Spurs in the 2013 NBA finals, but it was Pop's fault for taking Duncan out in the final moments of game 6, Bosh would have had a harder time getting that rebound with Duncan on him in which he kicked it out to Ray and you know the rest. It also didn't help that Manu played like sh*t in the 2013 finals, and he played well in 2014 finals and The Spurs destroyed the Heat in the 2014 NBA finals and got redemption, so tbh I don't see why Allen wouldn't have interest in the Spurs. His style of game fits the system Pop runs perfectly and signing Allen would allow the Spurs to make a trade to upgrade the roster. The Spurs biggest threats next season are not the Cavs or Bulls, it's the Thunder and Clippers. I'd say the Spurs if healthy can probably beat either Cavs or Bulls in the Finals. The Thunder and Clippers will be ready to take the Spurs on. Though if he doesn't retire he probably will sign with the Cavs or resign with Miami, but the Spurs make a ton of sense for basketball reasons.


Yes he did. Just like I thought he would. It doesn't change the previous year though. Ray Allen didn't beat the Spurs and neither did Lebron James or anyone else on the Heat. That series belonged to the Spurs in 6 games and they gave it away. The Heat and Ray Allen gladly accepted.

Probably the most frustrating NBA game I ever watched, I am a Spurs fan and Bulls to, but the Spurs did give that game away and a championship. It all came down to Pop in the closing moments, the biggest mistake was taking Duncan out of the game. I am glad the Spurs got redemption and destroyed the Heat in the 2014 NBA finals but they need to play the whole 2014-2015 NBA season to try and repeat and get that championship back they gave away in 2013. The 2014 NBA title was earned 100%, and it was sweet redemption for giving that 2013 NBA title away but they need to try and get one more.

eDizzle20
08-31-2014, 07:54 AM
Can't help but think a Ray Allen signing would mean a Marco B. trade for a more serviceable, and bigger SF/PF to play backup.

Agreed. It would not make sense to have that many SG's. Also, Allen is not going to sign with a team and be the 12th man. I don't see him with the Spurs.

Brazil
08-31-2014, 08:11 AM
Allen? That would be like signing fisher... Damn

Seventyniner
08-31-2014, 09:49 AM
Allen? That would be like signing fisher... Damn

I see it more like the Horry signing.

Blizzardwizard
08-31-2014, 09:56 AM
Has TSpence confirmed this?

look_at_g_shred
08-31-2014, 10:35 AM
Could also see him sign wit the clips

100%duncan
08-31-2014, 11:14 AM
NO. MORE. OLD. FUCKS.

I lold

TheyCallMePro
08-31-2014, 11:34 AM
I think Ray Allen is done. He struggled these last 2 years in Miami. If he hadn't made that 3 in game 6 last year, he would have been slammed for not performing. And this year in the Finals he was relatively horrible. His shot is off, he's 36, can't defend, and is wavering on retiring. At this point he's a name. The Spurs shouldn't want him.

ducks
08-31-2014, 11:36 AM
Low risk high reward if he not done

Galileo
08-31-2014, 11:50 AM
Monster dunk:

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/top_plays/2014/06/05/20140605-dunk-of-the-night.nba/

Prime Time
08-31-2014, 12:19 PM
I could totally imagine Allen signing with the Clippers, then saying some bullshit like "I didn't want to sign with the defending champions in consecutive free agencies" a few months later (or whenever the Clippers get eliminated.)

I'd take Allen though. When you're a championship team, the safest thing you could probably do is sign veteran talent. I'd probably trust Allen more than Belinelli come playoff time.

Brazil
08-31-2014, 01:08 PM
That would not be a bad signing by any means but would feel weird

i doubt spurs can afford playing time he will be looking for anyways so I'd surprised if it happens.

UnWantedTheory
08-31-2014, 02:24 PM
I think Ray Allen is done. He struggled these last 2 years in Miami. If he hadn't made that 3 in game 6 last year, he would have been slammed for not performing. And this year in the Finals he was relatively horrible. His shot is off, he's 36, can't defend, and is wavering on retiring. At this point he's a name. The Spurs shouldn't want him.
You are wayyyy off. He is 39. :)

Jimcs50
08-31-2014, 02:42 PM
Wish we had him in 2013. :)

TD 21
08-31-2014, 04:57 PM
Probably just messing around, seeing if by some chance (and considering they can't offer a rotation spot, only a good portion of the MLE would give them even a slim chance) they can keep him from the Cavs or Clippers.

As much as there's nothing separating him from Belinelli overall at this point other than his name, his perpetual motion/utilization of screens still causes problems for defenses.

dabom
08-31-2014, 05:15 PM
Fuck ray allen. He might be better than marco, but I don't give a fuck.

Russ
08-31-2014, 06:23 PM
You can either study the last 30 years or Spurs history . . .

Or, if that seems too much, just repeat after me --

Ray Allen is exactly the type of player who will never, ever sign with the Spurs. :)

superbigtime
08-31-2014, 07:14 PM
Fuck ray allen. He might be better than marco, but I don't give a fuck.

pgardn
08-31-2014, 09:22 PM
I hate the way he chews gum.

So no. I don't wanna see that smirk-face all season.

MaNu4Tres
08-31-2014, 10:59 PM
Wouldn't mind it.

Would make Belinelli expendable. Spurs could package him w/Ayres to a team needing creator/scorer off bench (PHX, ATL, NO) for a protected 1st.

Marcus Bryant
09-01-2014, 12:25 AM
Elie, Kersey, Horry...

Anyways, the man hits 3s like layups and the Spurs have plenty of minutes available in the backcourt due to certain injuries. Most of you were touching yourselves when Horry did what he did in the '05 playoffs anyways.

Darius Bieber
09-01-2014, 12:30 AM
He's not coming here... How many threads like this will there be with FA targets? Pau Gasol had 40+ pages.... No one is coming to San Antonio. Allen will go to Cleveland or LA. Book it.

Russo21
09-01-2014, 12:39 AM
Sign him up. Then let him rot on the bench in a suit or in the D-League as revenge for what he did to us in 2013.

Uriel
09-01-2014, 01:03 AM
He's not coming here... How many threads like this will there be with FA targets? Pau Gasol had 40+ pages.... No one is coming to San Antonio. Allen will go to Cleveland or LA. Book it.
40? It actually had 116 pages. :lol

hyhy
09-01-2014, 01:36 AM
CIA pop. Pay him money to sit on our bench so that he wun hit a game winner on the other team

scanry
09-01-2014, 02:39 AM
Ray Allen would fit right in. I don't think he'd want to play for Doc after 2012. Pop & Duncan would welcome Ray on board tbh.

Ray is just testing free agency to get a fair value for his services and Cleveland will match it.

TheGreatYacht
09-01-2014, 03:26 AM
"We don't need any shooters"

Did you dumb fucks forget Mills is out for 3/4ths of the season? Joseph can't hit the ocean. Bonner is washed up, he's just a Spur because of Pop. Belinelli can't create his own shot and be efficient. Our only reliable shooter at this point is Green tbh.

"Fuck Allen he took a championship from us"

Ginobili took it away, Allen did what he does best... Shoot. If you gave Manu another chance to make it up, why not give one to the greatest shooter in NBA history. Quit getting tight.

"Allen is done already"

He was the Heat's 2nd best player in the Finals last year. Fuck you mean he's done? Dipshit

Allen + Spurs system = god

szkorhetz
09-01-2014, 04:00 AM
If we can get him, we have to take the chance, even a Big and mobile combo forward is a much bigger need.

Raven
09-01-2014, 07:18 AM
#boot4beli

wildchild
09-01-2014, 08:06 AM
#boot4beli

:lol

We'll have to say bye Beli...

Andthentherewas21
09-01-2014, 10:28 AM
Not sure why anyone would want Allen at this point in his career, particularly the Spurs. Last season his stats dropped in almost every statistical category despite being on a team where defenses focused on Lebron/Bosh so he had open looks. Belinelli had better advance stats (PER, Offensive and Defensive Rating), is already under contract, and provides the same benefits (3pt shooting/shooter off of screens) and problems (poor defense) as Allen. At this point Allen is more of a liability of defense than his positive shooting would bring to the offense, especially since the spurs have more than enough shooters with Green, Manu (he'll take them regardless and pop has shown he will live with them whether they are falling or not), Kawhi, Beli, Bonner, and Daye. Not to mention Mills when he returns and Diaw when he is aggressive.

Jimcs50
09-01-2014, 11:03 AM
Let the clippers have him. Sign Baynes

tholdren
09-01-2014, 11:25 AM
Let the clippers have him. Sign Baynes
Agreed. Here's the problem: the fans on here want names, and could care at what cost. Ray Allen, although has some class, still is a ship-jumper and in my mind makes him a quitter.

Do I think he would be a decent locker room guy that wouldn't give us anything to worry about in the cry-baby era the NBA is in? yes.
Do I think that RAY ALLEN will put us over the top. probably not.

If the concept is get Ray Allen and that's our roster, then pass.
If the concept is get Ray, get Baynes, drop Ayers, then yes.

Emperor
09-01-2014, 11:47 AM
We all know just how clutch this guy is. I would have no problem with Ray busting 3's for us if there's mutual interest which is probably not the case but the only two i definitely never wanted on the Spurs is Fisher and Terry and thankfully one of them is retired.

timtonymanu
09-01-2014, 11:59 AM
Is Marcus Bryant really comparing '05 Horry to '14-15 Ray Allen? :lmao

SpurPadre
09-01-2014, 12:30 PM
Bowen does not approve even the thought of this happening. If Pop and RC dream about this, they better wake up and apologize to him, tbh.

spurspokesman
09-01-2014, 12:36 PM
If there is a report out about it, that probably means it's even less likely to happen.

This. And im fine with him hanging to Brons coattails

spurspokesman
09-01-2014, 12:38 PM
At the season opener, Ray Allen looks on as the Spurs receive their rings and retire Bruce Bowen's jersey - again. Popovich cut Allen from the team moments later.
LOL

spurraider21
09-01-2014, 02:26 PM
Wouldn't mind it.

Would make Belinelli expendable. Spurs could package him w/Ayres to a team needing creator/scorer off bench (PHX, ATL, NO) for a protected 1st.
this is a situation i wouldn't hate. assuming we aren't able to maneuver deals though, Allen would be pointless on our roster at the moment

Chinook
09-01-2014, 03:01 PM
I'd be very nervous even if the Spurs were willing to trade Beli. That would pretty much force Anderson to contribute this season, as there's no way Manu and Allen will stay healthy all season. If Pop's already considering giving Leonard more minutes/responsibility and potentially increasing Green's minutes, then I think it could work out to have Allen and Anderson essentially competing for the fourth-wing minutes.

It'd have to be a trade for an impact (caliber of Martin, Chandler or Ilyasova) player for me to even consider, though.

look_at_g_shred
09-01-2014, 03:34 PM
I'd be very nervous even if the Spurs were willing to trade Beli. That would pretty much force Anderson to contribute this season, as there's no way Manu and Allen will stay healthy all season. If Pop's already considering giving Leonard more minutes/responsibility and potentially increasing Green's minutes, then I think it could work out to have Allen and Anderson essentially competing for the fourth-wing minutes.

It'd have to be a trade for an impact (caliber of Martin, Chandler or Ilyasova) player for me to even consider, though.
Which chandler? And iilyasova is not going to come here...

Chinook
09-01-2014, 03:45 PM
Which chandler? And iilyasova is not going to come here...

Wilson. And it's not Ilyasova's choice if the Spurs trade for him.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-02-2014, 02:56 PM
"I don't want to go into a situation where I don't understand the coaching, don't understand the direction of the team," Allen said. "My family is very important in making the decision. Right now, there is nothing that I need to do. If I ultimately decide this will be it for me, I'm content with that."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24691387/ray-allen-on-deciding-about-next-season-im-not-in-any-rush


"There’s so much speculation about me going to Cleveland," Allen told the Boston Herald's Mark Murphy (http://bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/celtics_insider/2014/08/ray_allen_says_playing_with_lebron_and_cavs_no_loc k_if_he). "I haven’t even decided where I will play. Obviously LeBron and I are great friends, and James Jones and I are really close. But at no point have those two tried to push me in that direction. I haven’t had that conversation."

Allen added, "I have not leaned towards Cleveland. I have not made any mention of going to Cleveland. These last two months were about me physically, and deciding whether I want to play again."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2182600-san-antonio-spurs-offer-ray-allen-what-no-other-nba-team-can

Interesting. Does that make Cleveland out of the race? :downspin:

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
09-02-2014, 03:00 PM
Something else that I find interesting is that the Spurs can offer the MLE.. Cleveland and LAC cannot.

Old School 44
09-02-2014, 03:09 PM
The only other team I can see Allen going to outside of Cleveland is Clippers with his former coach Doc Rivers. But if he's referring to Cleveland when he says, "I don't understand the coaching, don't understand the direction of the team"....I think he does know these things, because he's played for this "Coach/GM/Owner" before, LeBron James.

Uriel
09-03-2014, 02:48 AM
We should sign Ray Allen, if only to keep him away from Cleveland, tbh.

99 Problems
09-03-2014, 04:41 AM
Ah, the Milan football trick. Buy them and sit them in the grand stand. That way the opposition can't hurt you. Worked for Milan for a long time.

100%duncan
09-03-2014, 08:29 AM
Something else that I find interesting is that the Spurs can offer the MLE.. Cleveland and LAC cannot.

Problem is he's not worth the MLE.

$pursDynasty
09-03-2014, 09:30 PM
Problem is he's not worth the MLE.
who says we have to give him the entire MLE, just offer a little more than the competition. That way it eliminates excuses, 'Best chance for a ring....Spurs, Money....Spurs, less wear and tear...Spurs." If the Spurs sign Ray does that mean we can't have Baynes, or can we like dump Daye or Ayers somewhere? I a not familiar with the world of guaranteed contracts.

100%duncan
09-03-2014, 10:01 PM
who says we have to give him the entire MLE, just offer a little more than the competition. That way it eliminates excuses, 'Best chance for a ring....Spurs, Money....Spurs, less wear and tear...Spurs." If the Spurs sign Ray does that mean we can't have Baynes, or can we like dump Daye or Ayers somewhere? I a not familiar with the world of guaranteed contracts.

The post I quoted implied that we have the MLE to throw at Allen while Cleveland and LAC don't that's why I said he's not worth the MLE.

Daniel Sedin
11-24-2014, 08:46 PM
Report: Cavs, Bulls, Spurs among seven teams interested in Ray Allen (http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24837400/cavs-bulls-spurs-among-seven-teams-interested-in-ray-allen)

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24837400/cavs-bulls-spurs-among-seven-teams-interested-in-ray-allen

Apparently Ray Allen will play, and Spurs are top contenders to land em. Reportedly Allen says the Cavs are becoming "unattractive"

Dex
11-24-2014, 08:49 PM
We don't need another shooting guard.

Especially not a 39-year old, washed-up sandy vagina who pierced the biggest hole in Spurs fan's hearts that's ever been pierced (not forgetting 0.4 here).

Fuck Ray Allen. Bruce Bowen says you can go suck a dick.

100%duncan
11-24-2014, 08:50 PM
Fuck this faggot

exstatic
11-24-2014, 08:50 PM
Agent-speak. Throw a bunch of spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks.

spursparker9
11-24-2014, 08:51 PM
no extra mins for him tbh.

unless he take over Beli's mins and Beli went to the end of the bench.

timtonymanu
11-24-2014, 08:52 PM
Maybe he can take DG's spot in the rotation. He can still light it up and hell, he's Ray Allen.

exstatic
11-24-2014, 08:52 PM
The last 3 years, both regular season and playoffs, his PER has been below the league average of 15.0. He's fucking DONE.

100%duncan
11-24-2014, 08:53 PM
Maybe he can take DG's spot in the rotation. He can still light it up and hell, he's Ray Allen.

DG is young and he's already playing less minutes than he should.

Robz4000
11-24-2014, 09:06 PM
He literally has no place on the Spurs tbh unless he suddenly becomes a PG.

Gary Neal experiment 2.0?

beirmeistr
11-24-2014, 09:06 PM
How about for the minimal

dbreiden83080
11-24-2014, 09:07 PM
Maybe he can take DG's spot in the rotation. He can still light it up and hell, he's Ray Allen.

I want DG over him and it's not close. Not close at all...

beirmeistr
11-24-2014, 09:07 PM
Minimum

milkyway21
11-24-2014, 09:10 PM
:huh I HATE this guy !
GO somewhere else ! :pimpslap

Dre_7
11-24-2014, 09:14 PM
Maybe he can take DG's spot in the rotation. He can still light it up and hell, he's Ray Allen.

Are you crazy?!?

DG as in Danny Green?? Just want to make sure because that is absurd!

look_at_g_shred
11-24-2014, 09:17 PM
Good for playoffs. That is all we'd need him for. Spot minutes. At this point in his career, he's not going to play every game. Nothing to lose IMHO. On nights were green or Beli aren't hitting.

timtonymanu
11-24-2014, 09:18 PM
Are you crazy?!?

DG as in Danny Green?? Just want to make sure because that is absurd!

Of course not. :lol

Some people said the same thing when guys like Butler and Granger were rumored to come here. :lol

Fuck Ray Allen.

DesignatedT
11-24-2014, 09:24 PM
Hmmm. Can never have enough depth but don't see where he fits. If he's cool with riding the bench than maybe but I know he wants a guaranteed role.

look_at_g_shred
11-24-2014, 09:43 PM
"Robert Horry" role

ohmwrecker
11-24-2014, 09:45 PM
"Robert Horry" role

In what regard?

Dre_7
11-24-2014, 09:46 PM
Of course not. :lol

Some people said the same thing when guys like Butler and Granger were rumored to come here. :lol

Fuck Ray Allen.

:tu

cjw
11-24-2014, 09:48 PM
Good for playoffs if for nothing else than to keep him away from GS, Dal, Hou, LAC or OKC

beirmeistr
11-24-2014, 10:28 PM
Good for playoffs if for nothing else than to keep him away from GS, Dal, Hou, LAC or OKC

Good point

Mikeanaro
11-24-2014, 10:28 PM
He can go wherever he wants but San Antonio, fuck that bald sick alien.

Sean Cagney
11-24-2014, 10:29 PM
Report: Cavs, Bulls, Spurs among seven teams interested in Ray Allen (http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24837400/cavs-bulls-spurs-among-seven-teams-interested-in-ray-allen)

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24837400/cavs-bulls-spurs-among-seven-teams-interested-in-ray-allen

Apparently Ray Allen will play, and Spurs are top contenders to land em. Reportedly Allen says the Cavs are becoming "unattractive"

Here we go again with the Spurs are the front runner or top contenders to land so and so lol. Do we ever learn? I could care less if he comes here or not but this is like clockwork everytime a Free Agent is interested.

exstatic
11-24-2014, 10:33 PM
"Robert Horry" role

Only if it's Robert Horry 2014: retired.

cd021
11-24-2014, 11:21 PM
no extra mins for him tbh.

unless he take over Beli's mins and Beli went to the end of the bench.

Beli is a FA after this season and if the Spurs may not be able to bring him back. If Allen does sign and find minutes over Belinelli would be interesting to Sours moving him or package him with Cojo for something.

cd021
11-24-2014, 11:27 PM
Of course not. :lol

Some people said the same thing when guys like Butler and Granger were rumored to come here. :lol

Fuck Ray Allen.

We need names so the can get banned:lol

manufan10
11-24-2014, 11:28 PM
We should all know by now that this is all BS. Ray Allen will not be a Spur.

hyhy
11-24-2014, 11:33 PM
Well, I think Ray can teach our guys how to come off screens and shoot, like certain vet tricks, how to watch the defenders etc.

Sean Cagney
11-24-2014, 11:34 PM
We should all know by now that this is all BS. Ray Allen will not be a Spur.

^^^^^^^ Should know is the key.

Hoops Czar
11-24-2014, 11:39 PM
Good for playoffs if for nothing else than to keep him away from GS, Dal, Hou, LAC or OKC

That makes no damn sense. He's a useless washed up scrub but, sign him to keep him away from everybody else. Logic 101 right here.

Darkwaters
11-25-2014, 12:14 AM
We don't need another shooting guard.

Especially not a 39-year old, washed-up sandy vagina who pierced the biggest hole in Spurs fan's hearts that's ever been pierced (not forgetting 0.4 here).

Fuck Ray Allen. Bruce Bowen says you can go suck a dick.

+1

Chinook
11-25-2014, 12:15 AM
Well, I think Ray can teach our guys how to come off screens and shoot, like certain vet tricks, how to watch the defenders etc.

Three years ago, he'd've been a perfect mentor for Green as far as offense goes. Doubt he'd make a difference now, though. Korver would have been great last year, though.

manufan10
11-25-2014, 12:18 AM
Just give them tapes on Reggie, Ray, whomever else you want, and have them learn that way. It's a lot cheaper. :lol

baseline bum
11-25-2014, 12:23 AM
Fuck him. He didn't want to go through training camp and he thinks he can come in now and work himself into game shape? Bullshit, the Spurs would need his ass right now with Mills injured. Not in 2 months when Patty is getting ready to come back.

100%duncan
11-25-2014, 12:36 AM
:lol you dont sign a washed up motherfucker who destroyed everyone's hearts out just to keep him away from other contenders. That's so retarded it doesn't even warrant a discussion

024
11-25-2014, 01:53 AM
Well... nothing will motivate the Spurs more than having a real Ray Allen there every day reminding them of 6 :lol

Ray Allen is still better than Austin Daye and could be a decent stop gap until Mills returns.

DapDaGenius
11-25-2014, 02:54 AM
Of course the Cavs are becoming unattractive to him. If they had a good record, he wouldn't be saying that. :lol

Wouldn't be surprised if he went to the Wizards.

scanry
11-25-2014, 04:32 AM
Don't know if we should risk with Long Dick ******'s ego tbh. He's as good as gone if Allen eats into his minutes.

cd021
11-25-2014, 08:32 AM
Well... nothing will motivate the Spurs more than having a real Ray Allen there every day reminding them of 6 :lol

Ray Allen is still better than Austin Daye and could be a decent stop gap until Mills returns.

He is probably better than Ayers too but that doesn't make him 6'10 its really irrelevant. Dayes role is a stretch 4, obviously Allen would be a 2 guard. I don't think the Spurs would go PG-less just to accommodate Allen in the second unit assuming Alllen-Ginobili-Belinelli-Diaw and Baynes is what you had in mind.

cd021
11-25-2014, 08:35 AM
Of course the Cavs are becoming unattractive to him. If they had a good record, he wouldn't be saying that. :lol

Wouldn't be surprised if he went to the Wizards.

Probably the best situation. They don't have a ton of consistent shooting on the perimeter beyond Beal and Pierce.

The Cavs can only have so many bad defenders before their ceiling as an league average defense caves in on them. He wouldn't make a ton of sense there.

Prose
11-25-2014, 09:44 AM
sign him in the robert horry role

cjw
11-25-2014, 05:02 PM
That makes no damn sense. He's a useless washed up scrub but, sign him to keep him away from everybody else. Logic 101 right here.

He was pretty useless in game 6 a couple of years ago. My point was even though we can't use him (Marco better than he is at this point), but other guys sure as hell can. He can slot into OKC's or LAC's wing rotation with ease for 10-15 minutes minimum a night.

DMC
11-25-2014, 05:06 PM
Agent-speak. Throw a bunch of spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks.
Whatever sticks is not al dente.

timtonymanu
11-25-2014, 05:11 PM
Of course the Cavs are becoming unattractive to him. If they had a good record, he wouldn't be saying that. :lol

Wouldn't be surprised if he went to the Wizards.

Doesn't Pierce hate Allen for leaving Boston? I doubt he would go there. The Clippers is the best bet for me since Doc is there and they love signing washed up players. :lol

cd98
11-25-2014, 05:12 PM
He's a reliable three point shooter the last five minutes of important playoff games. That said, I'm not sure that you couldn't say the same thing about 4 other guys on this roster. I wouldn't mind having Ray on the Spurs, but I'd rather have AK as we need a legit back up small forward behind Kawhi.

024
11-25-2014, 05:36 PM
who says we have to give him the entire MLE, just offer a little more than the competition. That way it eliminates excuses, 'Best chance for a ring....Spurs, Money....Spurs, less wear and tear...Spurs." If the Spurs sign Ray does that mean we can't have Baynes, or can we like dump Daye or Ayers somewhere? I a not familiar with the world of guaranteed contracts.
Do the Spurs even have the full MLE left? I thought they used part of it to re-sign Baynes. If that is true, then the remaining MLE is probably like 3 million.

Even if the Spurs do have MLE money to throw at Allen, I'd offer him only the vet minimum. Allen is chasing rings at this point and should be glad the Spurs are letting him ride the coattails.

ohmwrecker
11-25-2014, 05:38 PM
Ray Allen cannot fit in a "Robert Horry role". What the fuck are you guys talking about?

EVAY
11-25-2014, 05:39 PM
We should all know by now that this is all BS. Ray Allen will not be a Spur.

Thank you.

024
11-25-2014, 05:50 PM
He is probably better than Ayers too but that doesn't make him 6'10 its really irrelevant. Dayes role is a stretch 4, obviously Allen would be a 2 guard. I don't think the Spurs would go PG-less just to accommodate Allen in the second unit assuming Alllen-Ginobili-Belinelli-Diaw and Baynes is what you had in mind.
Allen would be there to play garbage time and act as insurance during the annual Parker and Ginobili injuries. Ayres and Daye really shouldn't be in the NBA so the Spurs lose nothing by freeing up the roster spot. It's not like the Spurs absolutely needs to replace Daye with a tall guy. Any NBA caliber player will do. Bonner will be back soon anyways and Daye will probably be buried down at the bench next to Anderson.

I mean Allen isn't a great option but at this point, Spurs have absolutely nothing to lose by waiving Daye and signing Allen. If the Spurs need another roster spot later, Ayres is still on the chopping block.

baseline bum
11-25-2014, 06:02 PM
Ray Allen cannot fit in a "Robert Horry role". What the fuck are you guys talking about?

:lol

People here forgetting that Horry was a top-notch defensive player, good rebounder, and could block some shots occasionally.

SpursFan86
11-25-2014, 06:04 PM
Ray Allen is a poor man's Belinelli at this point. Signing him would be completely redundant.

$pursDynasty
11-25-2014, 06:13 PM
Ray Allen is a poor man's Belinelli at this point. Signing him would be completely redundant.
86 I have always loved your sig, but in the playoffs do you want Ray Allen or King Belli? For me it is not even close, Ray>>>>Belli

DapDaGenius
11-25-2014, 07:25 PM
Doesn't Pierce hate Allen for leaving Boston? I doubt he would go there. The Clippers is the best bet for me since Doc is there and they love signing washed up players. :lol

Hmmmm....not sure. Where ever he goes, I wish nothing but the worst for him(excluding things like injury or death).

Uriel
11-26-2014, 04:44 AM
Do the Spurs even have the full MLE left? I thought they used part of it to re-sign Baynes. If that is true, then the remaining MLE is probably like 3 million.

Even if the Spurs do have MLE money to throw at Allen, I'd offer him only the vet minimum. Allen is chasing rings at this point and should be glad the Spurs are letting him ride the coattails.
Didn't they sign Baynes using the BAE?

spurraider21
11-26-2014, 04:55 AM
thought they just used some version of bird rights on baynes

cd021
11-26-2014, 05:48 AM
86 I have always loved your sig, but in the playoffs do you want Ray Allen or King Belli? For me it is not even close, Ray>>>>Belli

Definitely take "King" Beli for the playoffs. Allen has declined in each of the past 3 seasons. His Net Rtg dropped from +12,to +5 and then +2. Belinelli does the same things essentially and he can score inside the paint off of cuts and pull ups and the occasional drive. I think he is a better player at the moment and a better fit.

Chinook
11-26-2014, 06:38 AM
Didn't they sign Baynes using the BAE?


thought they just used some version of bird rights on baynes

Nope MLE. Can't use Early Bird rights on one-year deals, and using the LLE would have been foolish, since they may need it next year.

8FOR!3
11-26-2014, 01:12 PM
The MLE resets each year correct? So does it really matter how much we pay him if we don't use it for anything else? I think he's still a valuable asset bc he can hit the big shot at the end of the game. And it'd be nice to have a free throw shooter to get the ball to who's automatic. It's annoying when TP/Manu/Kawhi go 1 for 2 on big free throws.

Malik Hairston
11-26-2014, 01:28 PM
Ray Allen sucks, tbh, and his ring-chasing is embarrassing, at this point..I hope the Spurs don't even consider signing him, tbh, pathetic..

Mr Bones
11-26-2014, 02:26 PM
I don't understand the criticism of "ring-chasing." What else should an older player do? Play for a crappy team? It makes sense at that age that the only goal would be a championship. Plus, jesus, what a bunch of overly emotional sissies: don't sign him, he broke my heart! Awww, you poor delicate macho sports fan! He did his job, playing his best for his team... that's why you should respect him.

DapDaGenius
11-26-2014, 02:42 PM
I don't understand the criticism of "ring-chasing." What else should an older player do? Play for a crappy team? It makes sense at that age that the only goal would be a championship. Plus, jesus, what a bunch of overly emotional sissies: don't sign him, he broke my heart! Awww, you poor delicate macho sports fan! He did his job, playing his best for his team... that's why you should respect him.

Yeah, a championship or the most amount of he could get make sense. Also, why are you being such an overly emotional sissy about people being overly emotional sissies?

"Oh boo hoo, they're not saying nice things about Mr.Allen. Whhaaaaaa :cry"

Malik Hairston
11-26-2014, 03:07 PM
I don't have a problem with ring-chasing when you're still capable of producing for a team, I have never insulted a player for chasing rings, tbh..shit, even if you aren't capable, I don't mind seeing a player join a contender, just to get a token ring at the end of his career, or even just to spend his time in a winning, mature environment..

However, in Ray Allen's case, it's the most egregious and extreme example I have ever seen..he's no longer a good player, he shouldn't be in the rotation of a contender, yet he's still trying to ring-chase on a 2nd different team:lol..doing it with 1 team is fine, a lot of players have done it, but this nigga is going to join a fucking 2nd team to ring chase again? it's embarrassing IMO, especially for a future HOFer..

I don't care about Ray Allen making the shot to extend the Finals, I respect that, it was his job and he did it..but I've disliked him since his feud with Bowen..he's the Ladanian Tomlinson of the NBA, with a reputation of being "classy" and adored by everybody, when in reality, he's extremely whiny and sensitive..

ohmwrecker
11-26-2014, 03:58 PM
Ray Allen has resting bitch face.

Hoops Czar
11-26-2014, 04:45 PM
:lmao Of course Harlem isn't against ring chasers. Lebron is the ultimate ring chaser. Who even gives a shit about how whiny or sensitive he is... his teammates and coaching staff don't seem to mind and he's hardly a headcase in the locker room. Anyhow, if Ray Allen chooses any team other than the Spurs or OKC, he isn't chasing rings because everybody knows OKC is the only real threat to a Spurs repeat.

Mr Bones
11-26-2014, 06:37 PM
Yeah, a championship or the most amount of he could get make sense. Also, why are you being such an overly emotional sissy about people being overly emotional sissies?

"Oh boo hoo, they're not saying nice things about Mr.Allen. Whhaaaaaa :cry"

I never said a word about people "not saying nice things" about Allen. That's completely made up by you.

DapDaGenius
11-26-2014, 08:01 PM
I never said a word about people "not saying nice things" about Allen. That's completely made up by you.

":cry Please respect him because it means a lot to me :cry"

Mr Bones
11-27-2014, 01:36 AM
":cry Please respect him because it means a lot to me :cry"

Again, you're just making things up. But nice use of the cute emoticons.

tmtcsc
11-27-2014, 03:26 AM
everybody knows OKC is the only real threat to a Spurs repeat.

http://replygif.net/i/1487.gif

Uriel
11-27-2014, 03:39 AM
http://replygif.net/i/1487.gif
Is that because you don't think OKC is a threat or because you think they're not the only threat?

Lerojo
11-27-2014, 05:25 AM
Fuck Ray Allen
:bobo

exstatic
11-27-2014, 07:58 AM
Fuck Ray Allen
:bobo

DrunkTXLabrat
11-27-2014, 01:02 PM
Definitely take "King" Beli for the playoffs. Allen has declined in each of the past 3 seasons. His Net Rtg dropped from +12,to +5 and then +2. Belinelli does the same things essentially and he can score inside the paint off of cuts and pull ups and the occasional drive. I think he is a better player at the moment and a better fit.

You're a lunatic

DrunkTXLabrat
11-27-2014, 01:06 PM
There is no stat to prove how incredible the spurs would make ray allen look. Allens previous stats only show how pathetic the heat were.

ginobilized
11-27-2014, 03:32 PM
I hope Ray Allen does not end up in Memphis, Dallas or Houston. He would be a very potent situational playoff choice on the Spurs. He runs constantly and would be the ultimate decoy. His presence and reputation would make it troubling for teams to defend in pressure situations.
I doubt he will end up in SA though, players rarely do. Just hope he goes east and doesn't haunt us again.

tmtcsc
11-27-2014, 08:41 PM
Is that because you don't think OKC is a threat or because you think they're not the only threat?

I didn't think OKC was a threat when they were healthy at the beginning of the year. Now that they are injured, it will be hard for them to make the playoffs. I mentioned in an earlier post/thread that the biggest outside threat to the Spurs repeating are the Memphis Grizzlies. Even thought they lack athleticism, they are a very smart and savvy team, disciplined enough to advance far in the playoffs.

They will eventually cool off in the standings but I expect them to be there at the end. They may need one more piece though. Ray Allen perhaps?

cd021
11-27-2014, 11:37 PM
Allen would be there to play garbage time and act as insurance during the annual Parker and Ginobili injuries. Ayres and Daye really shouldn't be in the NBA so the Spurs lose nothing by freeing up the roster spot. It's not like the Spurs absolutely needs to replace Daye with a tall guy. Any NBA caliber player will do. Bonner will be back soon anyways and Daye will probably be buried down at the bench next to Anderson.

I mean Allen isn't a great option but at this point, Spurs have absolutely nothing to lose by waiving Daye and signing Allen. If the Spurs need another roster spot later, Ayres is still on the chopping block.

Ayers and Daye aren't rotation players on a championship contender, but there are certainly players in the same talent level as they are on worse teams. Daye's value is as a potential stretch 4 with an (limited ability) to driving off close outs. He hasn't worked out so far and probably never will. Ayers could be combined in a trade given his expiring contract and trade value of $2.7 million.

Of the two Daye is the most likely to be waived but Its hard to see it being for Allen, though it could make Belinelli more expendable in a trade.

Th Spurs are stacked at guard with Parker, Joseph, Mills, Green, Ginobili & Belinelli all 6 are average to above average players in the league based on P.E.R. Allen hasn't been that for the past 3 seasons in the regular or postseason. When all of are guards are healthy, we have 6 rotation worthy players at both guards spots.

Allen wouldn't be worth it as an insurance policy. I'd rather have AK47 because the Spurs don't really have a true backup SF. They can use someone like him that can provide solid defense in spot minutes with Leonard in foul trouble or resting for 12-15 off the bench in the playoffs.

007nites
11-28-2014, 01:55 AM
Really hope the Grizzlies don't pick him up. All they are missing is an outside spot up shooter. With all the attention in the paint he would get a ton of open looks from the outside.

Uriel
12-12-2014, 08:43 PM
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TheWriter
12-12-2014, 08:47 PM
Really hope the Grizzlies don't pick him up. All they are missing is an outside spot up shooter. With all the attention in the paint he would get a ton of open looks from the outside.

And their defense tasks a massive noise dive.

spurraider21
12-12-2014, 08:49 PM
is this seriously implying we have a standing offer :lol... fuck. do not want

spurraider21
12-12-2014, 08:49 PM
And their defense tasks a massive noise dive.
ironically terrible spelling by "thewriter"

tmtcsc
12-12-2014, 08:52 PM
We've got a Championship squad. We don't need a malcontent chucker who isn't what he used to be.

Mikeanaro
12-12-2014, 08:52 PM
BREAKING NEWS: OBAMA WANTS RAY ALLEN TO COMMAND AREA 51

Robz4000
12-12-2014, 08:53 PM
San Antonio is just out there for the hell of it. Only team he'd really fit on is Chicago; no one else can really make up for his defensive deficiencies...

TheGreatYacht
12-12-2014, 08:53 PM
Splitter/Baynes
Duncan/Diaw
Leonard/Green
Green/Allen
Parker/Mills

Now THAT'S a playoff rotation! :tu

Hoops Czar
12-12-2014, 09:11 PM
San Antonio is just out there for the hell of it.Only team he'd really fit on is Chicago; no one else can really make up for his defensive deficiencies...

He can make a pair of free throws to end games.

timtonymanu
12-12-2014, 09:14 PM
Fuck that ring chasing m'fer. Just retire.

ElNono
12-12-2014, 09:15 PM
agent leverage talk...

Andthentherewas21
12-12-2014, 09:18 PM
Hasn't he been "choosing" between those teams for the past 5 months?

At this point he does nothing for the Spurs. They already have his only marketable skill (3pt shooting) at his position, and with players who can defend better (yes, even Marco is better than Allen at this point). Given his deficiencies on D, any team that relies heavily on him as a rotation player is offering their opponent a weakness to exploit given his athletic decline. I'm sure he can still hit his 3s and FTs at a decent clip but that isn't what the Spurs need at this point.

BatManu20
12-12-2014, 09:20 PM
I'd say less than 10% chance that turd actually ends up here. Likely Chi or Cle, tbh.

SupremeGuy
12-12-2014, 09:25 PM
For the vet minimum and if he's willing to eat minutes for Green during regular season blowouts.

spursparker9
12-12-2014, 09:33 PM
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Its either Cleveland or GSW

SpurPadre
12-12-2014, 09:36 PM
Out of respect for Bowen, FUCK this piece of shit.

cd021
12-12-2014, 10:05 PM
Cleveland or Washington would make some sense for him. If the Cavs ship Waiters out for Koufous or another big that would free up minutes for Allen. Another poor defender on that team isn't what it needs though. Washingto could use another shooter to add to Pierce and Beal. Webster is also a good 3pt shooter and will help them there when he returns.

spursparker9
01-21-2015, 12:56 AM
Free-agent guard Ray Allen indicated to reporters Monday he is waiting to see if teams are interested in his services, reports the Sun Sentinel.

Allen, 39, played for the Heat during the last two seasons and was thought to be leaning toward retirement. However, Allen has been staying in shape incase a contender wants his services.

"At my age I need to stay in shape," Allen said.

Teams reported to be interested in Allen include the Warriors, Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs and Wizards.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24980785/former-heat-guard-ray-allen-waiting-on-call-from-nba-teams

Sean Cagney
01-21-2015, 01:00 AM
Free-agent guard Ray Allen indicated to reporters Monday he is waiting to see if teams are interested in his services, reports the Sun Sentinel.

Allen, 39, played for the Heat during the last two seasons and was thought to be leaning toward retirement. However, Allen has been staying in shape incase a contender wants his services.

"At my age I need to stay in shape," Allen said.

Teams reported to be interested in Allen include the Warriors, Cavaliers, Bulls, Spurs and Wizards.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/24980785/former-heat-guard-ray-allen-waiting-on-call-from-nba-teams
He would probably run to the Warriors right about now if I would bet on it. I would rather he go out East to the Wizards where we won't see him again this year but you know he will go to the team with the best record if they come calling as a front runner.

timtonymanu
01-21-2015, 01:01 AM
:lol This again.

spursparker9
01-21-2015, 01:08 AM
I am still betting he will go to the Cavs.

Robz4000
01-21-2015, 01:17 AM
If it's for the minimum, why not?

ElNono
01-21-2015, 01:18 AM
sounds kinda desperate at this point, tbh

100%duncan
01-21-2015, 01:20 AM
Fuck this faggot

Darius Bieber
01-21-2015, 01:20 AM
Would rather the Spurs get him than OKC, Dallas, Warriors.

SupremeGuy
01-21-2015, 02:01 AM
Would rather the Spurs get him than OKC, Dallas, Warriors.This.

exstatic
01-21-2015, 08:19 AM
:lol Ray Vajayjay turning into the ugly girl left on the wall at the dance.

DBMethos
01-21-2015, 08:23 AM
Sign him and make him ride the pine.

Agloco
01-21-2015, 08:27 AM
Would anyone really be disappointed if he replaced Bellinelli at this point?

DJR210
01-21-2015, 08:38 AM
Sign him and make him ride the pine.

This. Bully him in the locker room..make him carry Jamychal Green's bags, have the team degrade him publicly at functions etc..don't give him any PT, and cut him via Twitter as soon as the playoff roster deadline passes.

tmtcsc
01-21-2015, 09:39 AM
I am still betting he will go to the Cavs.

Not a chance.

BillMc
01-21-2015, 09:57 AM
:lol Ray Vajayjay turning into the ugly girl left on the wall at the dance.

Perfect analogy.

Don't want him. Just retire already Ray....

100%duncan
01-21-2015, 12:02 PM
This. Bully him in the locker room..make him carry Jamychal Green's bags, have the team degrade him publicly at functions etc..don't give him any PT, and cut him via Twitter as soon as the playoff roster deadline passes.

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spursparker9
02-06-2015, 08:53 AM
Report: Ray Allen expected to decide on his future after All-Star break

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/05/report-ray-allen-expected-to-decide-on-his-future-after-all-star-break/

ohmwrecker
02-06-2015, 09:13 AM
The Spurs are tanking to dodge Ray Ray's interest.

lefty
02-06-2015, 10:52 AM
Took his sweet time to see which teams look legit after the 1st half of the season

He is going to either GSW or Cleveland imo

Russ
02-06-2015, 10:54 AM
He is going to either GSW or Cleveland imo

If I'm GSW, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

If I'm Cleveland, why not?

NASpurs
02-06-2015, 11:16 AM
Took his sweet time to see which teams look legit after the 1st half of the season

He is going to either GSW or Cleveland imo

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