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Leon Sandcastle
09-11-2014, 09:39 PM
Who cares, the nigga hit his wife, he aint kill nobody or sell drugs to kids or something.* They are still together and Rice is still a millionaire, the wife aint goin nowhere.* People act like he stole something.

Leon Sandcastle
09-11-2014, 09:40 PM
Not only that but the nigga was defending himself from a batshit crazy psycho bitch.

Feminists these days man, they get all hyphy for no reason.

Malik Hairston
09-11-2014, 09:42 PM
The only reason it has become such a massive deal is because there's a public video, tbh..

I'm against Rice, mostly because he's a moron that couldn't keep his composure and killed his career(his name and rep is all he had left, since his game fell off last year), but there are many, many NFL players that have done far worse than what Rice did..the difference is that they weren't caught on camera..

The video of him dragging his girl was worse than the video of him hitting her IMO..

rogues
09-11-2014, 09:45 PM
The only reason it has become such a massive deal is because there's a public video, tbh..

I'm against Rice, mostly because he's a moron that couldn't keep his composure and killed his career(his name and rep is all he had left, since his game fell off last year), but there are many, many NFL players that have done far worse than what Rice did..the difference is that they weren't caught on camera..

The video of him dragging his girl was worse than the video of him hitting her IMO..
What else was there for him to do?..he can't leave the provocative bitch lying there..he would look even more heartless, tbh..

AlexJones
09-11-2014, 09:45 PM
fake white liberal outrage.. they would've been licking their chops if Rice was a white christian male and not an airhead nigg3r.

Leon Sandcastle
09-11-2014, 09:48 PM
He didnt even deserve 2 games wtf?* He was defending himself, and its his wife.* Thats nobodies business but theirs.And like I already said, the wife is still with him and loves him.* Hes a MILLIONAIRE, shes a hoe.* Do the math.* Man fucking feminists I tell ya.

Leon Sandcastle
09-11-2014, 09:48 PM
How my nigga Ray Rice just gonna be done dirty like that smh.

Red Hawk #21
09-11-2014, 09:51 PM
The same society that has proven time and time again to not give a fuck about Blacks is now somehow outraged that a Black couple got into a fight. It's like some of these people get up everyday in search of something to be offended and outraged by.

Malik Hairston
09-11-2014, 09:52 PM
What else was there for him to do?..he can't leave the provocative bitch lying there..he would look even more heartless, tbh..

Should have waited until they got to the room or home to beat her, tbh..

Jay-Z is the best example of this..Beyonce's crazy ass sister was flailing all over him, slapping him, etc, and the nigga kept his composure..he knows that there are always cameras watching..that's Jay-Z, too, his career could easily recover from a scandal..

Ray Rice is a washed-up athlete that couldn't just wait until they got to the room to beat his girl..moron, tbh..

Any famous Black man, regardless of profession, should be aware that their career is in jeaopardy at all times..

Clipper Nation
09-11-2014, 09:52 PM
The only reason it has become such a massive deal is because there's a public video, tbh..
Not just the video, the NFL's coverup and multiple punishments has made it a bigger story, tbh.... the faggot commissioner is finally taking heat from the media after screwing up yet another scandal....

Malik Hairston
09-11-2014, 09:55 PM
Not just the video, the NFL's coverup and multiple punishments has made it a bigger story, tbh.... the faggot commissioner is finally taking heat from the media after screwing up yet another scandal....

Yep, but that's because of the existence of the video, though..

The NFL/NBA are accustomed to covering shit up, but the existence of the video and TMZ's access to it really killed the NFL's plan..

phoenix219
09-11-2014, 09:55 PM
The same society that has proven time and time again to not give a fuck about Blacks is now somehow outraged that a Black couple got into a fight. It's like some of these people get up everyday in search of something to be offended and outraged by.

And if they are lucky, their sought out offense and outrage can make them rich and famous, too... :P

Mikeanaro
09-11-2014, 10:01 PM
Ike Turner must be sad somewhere in heaven... Nutbush City Limits scene comes to my mind.

m>s
09-11-2014, 10:41 PM
fake white liberal outrage.. they would've been licking their chops if Rice was a white christian male and not an airhead nigg3r.
My man

namlook
09-12-2014, 04:07 AM
What else was there for him to do?..he can't leave the provocative bitch lying there..he would look even more heartless, tbh..

Really? If she's out cold you push the emergency stop on the elevator and get medical help. She could have a brain hemorrhage from a blow like that to the head and could have potentially died. You don't just drag her limp body around like a drunk three year old with downs syndrome.

Koolaid_Man
09-12-2014, 06:31 AM
I'm not at all for white Ray Ray did....but fact is everyone always tells us about the this due process shit....how we are a Nation of Laws...how to trust the system...:lol Ray was charged, convicted, and punished by law enforcement, punished again by the NFL (2 games) and then the media comes along and says no we don't feel it was enough so let's see if we can put public pressure to force a harder penalty despite what was already decided for a first time offender. My only point is don't fucking tell me about due process...it's all a charades.

I'm not for men hitting women AT ALL...but Stephen A. Smith was right....when are these women's groups going to start talking to these women about not provoking people....while it will always be wrong for a man to hit a woman if the woman is provoking him by hitting, spitting, verbally abusing, etc you're pretty much inviting your own ass kicking...he may go to jail but you also might get your ass kicked...if you want to have a serious conversation about it then people need to stop ignoring this elephant in the room...which is women trying to hide behind the "you can't hit me rule" but I can hit you. It's stupid there are a lot of crazy fucking guys out here who will knock a woman's teeth out...they will fight men and women alike...I'm sure Ray Rice would fight any dude that stepped to him....it's no secret....but any woman too :lol..Mike Tyson was a woman beater (according to Robin Givins) but he fought all kinds of dudes in the ring and on the street....

James Brown who we hail as the god father of soul...used to beat the shit out of Tammy Terrell...google it....he knocked all her teeth out at one point and yet blacks and whites celebrate him as a hero....it's a got dam shame tbh

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 07:08 AM
I'm not at all for white Ray Ray did....but fact is everyone always tells us about the this due process shit....how we are a Nation of Laws...how to trust the system...:lol Ray was charged, convicted, and punished by law enforcement, punished again by the NFL (2 games) and then the media comes along and says no we don't feel it was enough so let's see if we can put public pressure to force a harder penalty despite what was already decided for a first time offender. My only point is don't fucking tell me about due process...it's all a charades.

I'm not for men hitting women AT ALL...but Stephen A. Smith was right....when are these women's groups going to start talking to these women about not provoking people....while it will always be wrong for a man to hit a woman if the woman is provoking him by hitting, spitting, verbally abusing, etc you're pretty much inviting your own ass kicking...he may go to jail but you also might get your ass kicked...if you want to have a serious conversation about it then people need to stop ignoring this elephant in the room...which is women trying to hide behind the "you can't hit me rule" but I can hit you. It's stupid there are a lot of crazy fucking guys out here who will knock a woman's teeth out...they will fight men and women alike...I'm sure Ray Rice would fight any dude that stepped to him....it's no secret....but any woman too :lol..Mike Tyson was a woman beater (according to Robin Givins) but he fought all kinds of dudes in the ring and on the street....

James Brown who we hail as the god father of soul...used to beat the shit out of Tammy Terrell...google it....he knocked all her teeth out at one point and yet blacks and whites celebrate him as a hero....it's a got dam shame tbh

Rice was neither charged nor convicted dummy.

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 07:10 AM
Who cares, the nigga hit his wife, he aint kill nobody or sell drugs to kids or something.* They are still together and Rice is still a millionaire, the wife aint goin nowhere.* People act like he stole something.

Video makes it worse. And a 200 plus pound man doesn't need to knock a woman out to calm her down

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 07:13 AM
He didnt even deserve 2 games wtf?* He was defending himself, and its his wife.* Thats nobodies business but theirs.And like I already said, the wife is still with him and loves him.* Hes a MILLIONAIRE, shes a hoe.* Do the math.* Man fucking feminists I tell ya.

Yes he deserved the season. He could have killed her. And it doesn't matter she is still with him, a lot of abused women stay with their abusers. Also, in the state of Texas, if a woman has visible injuries or bruises from a beating, it doesn't matter what she wants, the prosecutor is going to go after that nigga regardless.

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 07:15 AM
The NFL's handling of this, along with others like Greg Hardy, Terrell Suggs, leads to the justifiable dismissal of Goodell, along with all of the other bullshit he covered up. (Spygate etc. )

Jenks
09-12-2014, 08:26 AM
Goodell is a moron. If he stuck with the original 2 game suspension this would have blown over a lot faster (by the end of this year it would be a footnote). Instead, this will be a story for years, like the Vick dog thing. It won't go away until long after Rice is reinstated. And unlike the Vick suspension, this one makes Goodell look bad (for giving him only 2 games at first), so as long as it drags on, the longer people are reminded that he's inept.

JamStone
09-12-2014, 08:39 AM
The only reason it has become such a massive deal is because there's a public video, tbh..

I'm against Rice, mostly because he's a moron that couldn't keep his composure and killed his career(his name and rep is all he had left, since his game fell off last year), but there are many, many NFL players that have done far worse than what Rice did..the difference is that they weren't caught on camera..

The video of him dragging his girl was worse than the video of him hitting her IMO..

Agreed. It's all about the video. Chad Johnson headbutt his then wife Evelyn a couple years ago and there were pictures of the injuries to her forehead. But he was immediately cut by the Dolphins and hasn't been back in the NFL. But not only did we not really hear anything from the NFL about the incident regarding how they would handle Chad or make rules changes to domestic violence policies, we barely heard of any public outcry on the matter.

I'm sure there have been other incidents of some types of domestic violence we never even heard or read about. This case happened to be accompanied by that initial video of Rice dragging his fiance out of the elevator and then the more recent video from inside the elevator. The public reacts to video (and in some cases audio), not unseen or unheard incidents. The video is what has made this the story it has become. If there were no videos, Rice probably is still playing for the Ravens and the NFL would have justified it the way they did initially by telling the public they had more information about the incident than the public. And the public would buy it, and then it blows over after a little while.

Video and/or audio evidence is often a public trigger on how a story is perceived.

And how Rice's wife has reacted is essentially inconsequential. Perhaps she really truly loves Ray Rice and forgives him. But there's also the possibility she weighed that incident and how she feels about Rice against her million dollar lifestyle and now the possibility of her husband not making millions of dollars every year going forward. Whether true or not, we can assume that at least played a factor in why she has stayed with him, married him, and is now continuing to defend him. Maybe she feels that her lifestyle and being set for life is worth that knockout punch.

The NFL and the Ravens dropped the ball on this, but also the prosecutor. In every aspect of this story, it's all about the money.

Thread
09-12-2014, 08:50 AM
Just Media on a feeding frenzy. Manziel didn't pan out & they've cast MLB down,,,so this will do until Manziel can see the light.

Poor Media. Rats & vermin, nothing more.

tlongII
09-12-2014, 08:59 AM
Agreed. It's all about the video. Chad Johnson headbutt his then wife Evelyn a couple years ago and there were pictures of the injuries to her forehead. But he was immediately cut by the Dolphins and hasn't been back in the NFL. But not only did we not really hear anything from the NFL about the incident regarding how they would handle Chad or make rules changes to domestic violence policies, we barely heard of any public outcry on the matter.

I'm sure there have been other incidents of some types of domestic violence we never even heard or read about. This case happened to be accompanied by that initial video of Rice dragging his fiance out of the elevator and then the more recent video from inside the elevator. The public reacts to video (and in some cases audio), not unseen or unheard incidents. The video is what has made this the story it has become. If there were no videos, Rice probably is still playing for the Ravens and the NFL would have justified it the way they did initially by telling the public they had more information about the incident than the public. And the public would buy it, and then it blows over after a little while.

Video and/or audio evidence is often a public trigger on how a story is perceived.

And how Rice's wife has reacted is essentially inconsequential. Perhaps she really truly loves Ray Rice and forgives him. But there's also the possibility she weighed that incident and how she feels about Rice against her million dollar lifestyle and now the possibility of her husband not making millions of dollars every year going forward. Whether true or not, we can assume that at least played a factor in why she has stayed with him, married him, and is now continuing to defend him. Maybe she feels that her lifestyle and being set for life is worth that knockout punch.

The NFL and the Ravens dropped the ball on this, but also the prosecutor. In every aspect of this story, it's all about the money.

Bingo.

TDMVPDPOY
09-12-2014, 09:09 AM
this ray rice shit pupose is to get viewers of the other white cripples case when it comes to viewership ratings

Koolaid_Man
09-12-2014, 10:10 AM
Rice was neither charged nor convicted dummy.

:lmao hey dummy John since 2008....:lol

He was charged AND convicted. You're such a retard and I enjoy you making a fool of yourself. Lol

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11495795&src=desktop

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 10:23 AM
:lmao hey dummy John since 2008....:lol

He was charged AND convicted. You're such a retard and I enjoy you making a fool of yourself. Lol

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=11495795&src=desktop

Rice's defense attorney, Michael J. Diamondstein of Philadelphia, then applied for pretrial intervention, a remedy that allows defendants to avoid conviction if they complete a court-ordered set of requirements. According to New Jersey's pretrial intervention website, PTI is a used in criminal cases that don't involve "violence" and for "victimless crimes."

Pretrial intervention for Rice was approved by PTI director Jill Houck and Atlantic County prosecutor Grace Dovell-Welch. And on May 20, New Jersey Superior Court Judge Michael A. Donio approved PTI for Rice at a hearing, according to court documents.


^ Sit down ya baboon.

Killakobe81
09-12-2014, 10:41 AM
Agreed. It's all about the video. Chad Johnson headbutt his then wife Evelyn a couple years ago and there were pictures of the injuries to her forehead. But he was immediately cut by the Dolphins and hasn't been back in the NFL. But not only did we not really hear anything from the NFL about the incident regarding how they would handle Chad or make rules changes to domestic violence policies, we barely heard of any public outcry on the matter.

I'm sure there have been other incidents of some types of domestic violence we never even heard or read about. This case happened to be accompanied by that initial video of Rice dragging his fiance out of the elevator and then the more recent video from inside the elevator. The public reacts to video (and in some cases audio), not unseen or unheard incidents. The video is what has made this the story it has become. If there were no videos, Rice probably is still playing for the Ravens and the NFL would have justified it the way they did initially by telling the public they had more information about the incident than the public. And the public would buy it, and then it blows over after a little while.

Video and/or audio evidence is often a public trigger on how a story is perceived.

And how Rice's wife has reacted is essentially inconsequential. Perhaps she really truly loves Ray Rice and forgives him. But there's also the possibility she weighed that incident and how she feels about Rice against her million dollar lifestyle and now the possibility of her husband not making millions of dollars every year going forward. Whether true or not, we can assume that at least played a factor in why she has stayed with him, married him, and is now continuing to defend him. Maybe she feels that her lifestyle and being set for life is worth that knockout punch.

The NFL and the Ravens dropped the ball on this, but also the prosecutor. In every aspect of this story, it's all about the money.

Jam with the now to rare ..."goods". Agree whole-heartedly. Also agree with Kool on one point: SAs was right. Women need to stop placing them selves in bad situations and need to stop provoking men. Some women feel they can talk ish, hit a man, slap him and spit in his face with no consequences. I would never hit a woman but there are plenty out there who will and have. Women's independence has these females thinking that they can be "habitual line-steppers" and not get mushed.

I have two boys but if I had a daughter, I woudl tell her to never stay with a abusive man. I also would tell her there are lines you should not cross with a man and even if you are trained in self -defense men generally have greater upper body strength and testing their tolerance for disrespect is unwise.

Leon Sandcastle
09-12-2014, 11:32 AM
Video makes it worse. And a 200 plus pound man doesn't need to knock a woman out to calm her down
Every now and then you gotta put a hoe in her place nahh mean?

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 12:49 PM
Every now and then you gotta put a hoe in her place nahh mean?

Or they can stop getting with women who try to provoke them. Anyways Rice wasn't defending himself.

spurraider21
09-12-2014, 12:55 PM
What else was there for him to do?..he can't leave the provocative bitch lying there..he would look even more heartless, tbh..
i would never be enough of a bitch to deck a woman like that, but if that situation arose, i'd show some sort of remorse/concern... instead of just standing around like nothing and then literally drag her around :lol

Koolaid_Man
09-12-2014, 01:01 PM
Rice's defense attorney, Michael J. Diamondstein of Philadelphia, then applied for pretrial intervention, a remedy that allows defendants to avoid conviction if they complete a court-ordered set of requirements. According to New Jersey's pretrial intervention website, PTI is a used in criminal cases that don't involve "violence" and for "victimless crimes."

Pretrial intervention for Rice was approved by PTI director Jill Houck and Atlantic County prosecutor Grace Dovell-Welch. And on May 20, New Jersey Superior Court Judge Michael A. Donio approved PTI for Rice at a hearing, according to court documents.


^ Sit down ya baboon.

Lol hey dick head all you're doing is proving me right. He was convicted and sentenced. You want to say otherwise? Again? Lol frigging moron.

Koolaid_Man
09-12-2014, 01:04 PM
i would never be enough of a bitch to deck a woman like that, but if that situation arose, i'd show some sort of remorse/concern... instead of just standing around like nothing and then literally drag her around :lol

Its always noble to sound nice. But I just finished lunch with an older white woman...she's a MILF we are not fucking but she told me that there is a difference between spousal abuse and getting into a fight with your spouse. She believes it was a fight and should not be treated as abuse. I agree with her.

Leon Sandcastle
09-12-2014, 01:19 PM
Or they can stop getting with women who try to provoke them. Anyways Rice wasn't defending himself.
Who cares though? If a nigga wanna beat his wife and shes a hoe and stays with him cause hes rich, why is that your business? He should be allowed to play football and do his job. As far as im concerned thats their business and doesnt affect anyone else.

spurraider21
09-12-2014, 01:23 PM
Its always noble to sound nice. But I just finished lunch with an older white woman...she's a MILF we are not fucking but she told me that there is a difference between spousal abuse and getting into a fight with your spouse. She believes it was a fight and should not be treated as abuse. I agree with her.
the girl was not a threat to rice, and he responded with excessive force. unless shes a fucking mma fighter, he could easily have grabbed her wrists and just told her to calm the fuck down

Kawhi
09-12-2014, 01:27 PM
I agree

Leon Sandcastle
09-12-2014, 01:31 PM
I agree
Thank you. Some niggas gotta understand we aint for beatin on hoes, we for niggas rights.


1) We dont know the full story, it did look like she threw the first punch, and she definitely tried to attack him a 2nd time. The knockout punch could have been an accident, he prob aint mean to punch her that hard. Keep in mind, this is an NFL running back.

2) The couple is still together and working out their issues, what happens now is nobodies business but theirs.


3) The wife even said people are blowing this way out of proportion. What does that mean? Im right.

djohn2oo8
09-12-2014, 02:51 PM
Lol hey dick head all you're doing is proving me right. He was convicted and sentenced. You want to say otherwise? Again? Lol frigging moron.

He was not convicted dipshit.

JoeTait75
09-12-2014, 03:05 PM
The "caring" is all for show. Social media encourages conformism and in-group thinking. People put on a display of their outrage/caring because they don't want to be left out, or they don't want people to think they don't care because then they might be ostracized.

baseline bum
09-12-2014, 04:04 PM
It's just the standard set by LeBron when he did The Decision for the kids, with his I Promise campaign, and so on.

Killakobe81
09-12-2014, 04:09 PM
It's just the standard set by LeBron when he did The Decision for the kids, with his I Promise campaign, and so on.

LOL Baseline we gonna beat UT this weekend?

baseline bum
09-12-2014, 04:28 PM
LOL Baseline we gonna beat UT this weekend?

Yeah, though I doubt 66-3 happens again tbh.

SupremeGuy
09-12-2014, 04:41 PM
Like I said in another thread, all this fake outrage is a result of the media and parts of the country being controlled by special interest and minority groups. If you're not offended over everything, they'll brand you a bigot/racist/sexist and now there's real life repercussions for that.

spurraider21
09-12-2014, 04:44 PM
It's just the standard set by LeBron when he did The Decision for the kids, with his I Promise campaign, and so on.
Not to mention when he delayed his decision so he could lead the fight against racism

313
09-12-2014, 05:51 PM
Of course Stephen A was right. Women will punch, scratch, kick, the whole nine, when they're mad because their gender protects them. if a 120 pound guy goes up to a guy and does that, he knows what he's getting himself into, and women should also be aware of that.

In the Ray Rice situation, however, from the video it looks like he's the aggressor from beginning to end.

weebo
09-12-2014, 06:58 PM
Bottom line: Rice and his bitch are hood rats/niggas...that's how disagreements get settled by hood rats/niggas, tbqh

Thread
09-12-2014, 07:32 PM
I wish I was married to dj. Spit on me, motherfucker, and find out what happens next.

jimbo
09-12-2014, 08:59 PM
Really? If she's out cold you push the emergency stop on the elevator and get medical help. She could have a brain hemorrhage from a blow like that to the head and could have potentially died. You don't just drag her limp body around like a drunk three year old with downs syndrome.

:lol you thought he hit her hard enough to refer to it as a "blow like that?" If Ray Rice had actually thrown his weight into the shot she'd have been fuckin battered.

Most dangerous part of the punch was when she fell to the ground bc you can't protect the back of your head from banging against hard shit. (rail/ground/etc)

jimbo
09-12-2014, 09:19 PM
i would never be enough of a bitch to deck a woman like that, but if that situation arose, i'd show some sort of remorse/concern... instead of just standing around like nothing and then literally drag her around :lol

Tbh I can only take these opinions seriously if you've been in that situation before. I have & I didn't hit her back, but I can understand why someone would.

And you don't consider marrying the chick after remorse? If he hits her again and she divorces him, that's a bigger fine than Goodell could ever drop.

spurraider21
09-12-2014, 09:21 PM
Tbh I can only take these opinions seriously if you've been in that situation before. I have & I didn't hit her back, but I can understand why someone would.

And you don't consider marrying the chick after remorse? If he hits her again and she divorces him, that's a bigger fine than Goodell could ever drop.
marrying the chick is also saving face

jimbo
09-12-2014, 09:25 PM
marrying the chick is also saving face

You honestly think he's risking 12 mil+ to save face? Cmon now.

Before this incident wife beaters usually went on to live successful careers.

Chomag
09-12-2014, 09:27 PM
This is the wrong place to ask about empathy I think.

jimbo
09-12-2014, 09:28 PM
This is the wrong place to ask about empathy I think.

There's two sides you could empathize with tbh

spurraider21
09-12-2014, 09:38 PM
You honestly think he's risking 12 mil+ to save face? Cmon now.

Before this incident wife beaters usually went on to live successful careers.
not just that, it was also an attempt to save his career. if it went down poorly, she pressed charges, etc, he knew it wouldn't go down well

jimbo
09-12-2014, 10:58 PM
not just that, it was also an attempt to save his career. if it went down poorly, she pressed charges, etc, he knew it wouldn't go down well


Regarding civil charges, What would she press charges for? She wasn't physically injured by Rice. She's already "whole." (unless he habitually abused her, but it'd take a whole lot more than just that video for that, and then a habitual abuser isn't going to risk his millions by marrying her. See: Mayweather, Floyd) Regarding criminal charges, the DA didn't need her to prosecute Rice. Could it have been worse? Probably not by much for a first time millionaire offender.

Regarding his career, it depends on what you think his net worth is but it still makes zero sense for him to marry to save his career.

The two figures we're working with are 25 mil (career earnings) and 14 mil (his listed net worth by random websites). His actual net worth is probably somewhere in that range.

At the low end the breakeven point for marriage would be .5X - .5(14) = 0 where X are future earnings. So 14 mil. He's got 9.5 mil left on his contract. (3.5 in 14, 3 in 15, 3 in 16) After that he'd be 31. You'd have to be pretty generous to squeeze another 4.5 mil out of a 31 year old running back who's already on a sharp decline as of 27. But it's possible.

So even if he somehow maximizes out his future earnings (which he wont) and on the low end of his net worth estimates, he barely breaks even by marrying her. More realistically, he doesn't break even by a couple mil. If he expected a 6 game suspension, that's -1.75 mil on his career earnings. And he's already shot at 27, he's gonna be dust by 31. So that's 7.75-9.75 left in career earnings. (giving him 2 vet min seasons)

So he'd have to be planning on staying with her for life if he was going to marry her... That isn't a saving face move. They've been together since high school, it's a whole lot more likely that he doesn't plan on hitting her again than all this other bullshit.

spurraider21
09-13-2014, 03:25 AM
Regarding civil charges, What would she press charges for? She wasn't physically injured by Rice. She's already "whole." (unless he habitually abused her, but it'd take a whole lot more than just that video for that, and then a habitual abuser isn't going to risk his millions by marrying her. See: Mayweather, Floyd) Regarding criminal charges, the DA didn't need her to prosecute Rice. Could it have been worse? Probably not by much for a first time millionaire offender.
battery


Regarding his career, it depends on what you think his net worth is but it still makes zero sense for him to marry to save his career.

The two figures we're working with are 25 mil (career earnings) and 14 mil (his listed net worth by random websites). His actual net worth is probably somewhere in that range.

At the low end the breakeven point for marriage would be .5X - .5(14) = 0 where X are future earnings. So 14 mil. He's got 9.5 mil left on his contract. (3.5 in 14, 3 in 15, 3 in 16) After that he'd be 31. You'd have to be pretty generous to squeeze another 4.5 mil out of a 31 year old running back who's already on a sharp decline as of 27. But it's possible.

So even if he somehow maximizes out his future earnings (which he wont) and on the low end of his net worth estimates, he barely breaks even by marrying her. More realistically, he doesn't break even by a couple mil. If he expected a 6 game suspension, that's -1.75 mil on his career earnings. And he's already shot at 27, he's gonna be dust by 31. So that's 7.75-9.75 left in career earnings. (giving him 2 vet min seasons)

So he'd have to be planning on staying with her for life if he was going to marry her... That isn't a saving face move. They've been together since high school, it's a whole lot more likely that he doesn't plan on hitting her again than all this other bullshit.
a lot of times these athletes spend lavishly early in their career because they anticipate continued income. could be all sorts of variables. perhaps she even threatened to push for criminal charges. i just dont think it adds up on surface level

spurraider21
09-14-2014, 02:27 AM
Regarding his career, it depends on what you think his net worth is but it still makes zero sense for him to marry to save his career.

The two figures we're working with are 25 mil (career earnings) and 14 mil (his listed net worth by random websites). His actual net worth is probably somewhere in that range.

At the low end the breakeven point for marriage would be .5X - .5(14) = 0 where X are future earnings. So 14 mil. He's got 9.5 mil left on his contract. (3.5 in 14, 3 in 15, 3 in 16) After that he'd be 31. You'd have to be pretty generous to squeeze another 4.5 mil out of a 31 year old running back who's already on a sharp decline as of 27. But it's possible.

So even if he somehow maximizes out his future earnings (which he wont) and on the low end of his net worth estimates, he barely breaks even by marrying her. More realistically, he doesn't break even by a couple mil. If he expected a 6 game suspension, that's -1.75 mil on his career earnings. And he's already shot at 27, he's gonna be dust by 31. So that's 7.75-9.75 left in career earnings. (giving him 2 vet min seasons)

So he'd have to be planning on staying with her for life if he was going to marry her... That isn't a saving face move. They've been together since high school, it's a whole lot more likely that he doesn't plan on hitting her again than all this other bullshit.
just reread this. his 25 mil in career earnings is all from before the marriage anyway, so that wouldn't be shared in case of a divorce. and property he already owns also would be considered separate property. only the money that is made during the marriage in addition to property acquired during the marriage would be community property. so he'd keep all his previous earnings, and assuming they one day divorced, they would split the earnings between time of the marriage and separation.

of course it all gets muddy if they buy a house during the marriage. if he can somehow prove that he bought the house exclusively with pre-marriage money, its all his, but thats usually tough to do.

but getting married in an effort to save his career still makes sense. he won't lose previous earnings or previously owned property, and at worst only splits what he earns afterwards. it makes more sense if he doesn't intend to buy more property (as in, he already owns the house he is intending to live in).

scanry
09-14-2014, 04:24 AM
Therapy will do a lot of good to Professional athletes. The NFL should seriously consider their actions before throwing the book at players. The coaches can actually cope with suspensions and what not, but teams releasing players and voiding contracts is another issue.

I believe he's already been paid $25 mil out of the $35 mil.

jimbo
09-14-2014, 01:09 PM
battery


a lot of times these athletes spend lavishly early in their career because they anticipate continued income. could be all sorts of variables. perhaps she even threatened to push for criminal charges. i just dont think it adds up on surface level

I had meant "what would she press charges for" rhetorically. It doesn't matter what you press charges for when you're already whole. (Since the damages act to make you "whole.") Unlikely that she'd get much of anything since she didn't actually get hurt and didn't go to the hospital.




just reread this. his 25 mil in career earnings is all from before the marriage anyway, so that wouldn't be shared in case of a divorce. and property he already owns also would be considered separate property. only the money that is made during the marriage in addition to property acquired during the marriage would be community property. so he'd keep all his previous earnings, and assuming they one day divorced, they would split the earnings between time of the marriage and separation.

of course it all gets muddy if they buy a house during the marriage. if he can somehow prove that he bought the house exclusively with pre-marriage money, its all his, but thats usually tough to do.

but getting married in an effort to save his career still makes sense. he won't lose previous earnings or previously owned property, and at worst only splits what he earns afterwards. it makes more sense if he doesn't intend to buy more property (as in, he already owns the house he is intending to live in).

It does make more sense that if you're trying to maximize your money that you'd make sure your assets are completely separate. I wasn't thinking that way--I'd assumed they'd combined some of their assets over the years given how long they'd been together.

No idea if he's got the house he's living in. I was looking it up just a little and apparently last year he was selling his first house he bought. It was only 325k. That's damn surprising. I wonder what the difference is based on the 25 mil earnings vs the 14 mil net worth some places are listed. If he's that frugal, I wonder where the fuck that money went.