Open Scrimmage, October1st at 6:00PM

[Mel_13]

From Season Ticket Services:

Save the Date – Open Scrimmage
The Spurs will host an Open Scrimmage featuring the full team at the AT&T Center on Wednesday, October 1 at 6:00pm.

[BOHOLANO#21]

All season ticket members are invited!

[littlecoyotecoin]

Thanks, Mel. I was looking for that yesterday.

[heyheymymy]

just season ticket holders? forgot how this works, and i was watching the stream last year.

[Mel_13]

just season ticket holders? forgot how this works, and i was watching the stream last year.

Anyone can go and it's free, but you need to get a ticket. IIRC, they distribute them at HEB. Season ticket holders get tickets deposited into their accounts.

[TE]

Getting close to that time of the year again :flag:

[Ice009]

I thought they're going to be in Europe for the first part of the preseason, or are they going there shortly after this scrimmage?

[mudyez]

I thought they're going to be in Europe for the first part of the preseason, or are they going there shortly after this scrimmage?

Otherwise I'd be very pissed when visiting the game in Berlin on 10/4.

[pookenstein]

Otherwise I'd be very pissed when visiting the game in Berlin on 10/4.

I'll be there as well. Wanna meet there and have a beer?

[littlecoyotecoin]

I thought they're going to be in Europe for the first part of the preseason, or are they going there shortly after this scrimmage?

Scrimmage on 1st
1st Preseason game on 8th, overseas

[mudyez]

I'll be there as well. Wanna meet there and have a beer?

Not sure if having a beer is in play as I'm with my girlfriend and probably teammates, but we may say hello to each other.

I'm Oberrang Row 11 Seat 10 and will be sporting my white Spurs 1014 championship shirt (the one all of the players put on after game 5).

[pookenstein]

Not sure if having a beer is in play as I'm with my girlfriend and probably teammates, but we may say hello to each other.

I'm Oberrang Row 11 Seat 10 and will be sporting my white Spurs 1014 championship shirt (the one all of the players put on after game 5).

OK. I'll most likely be wearing my white and grey Spurs warmup jacket and a cap. And I'll sit in Row 1, seat 1 (no shit).

[littlecoyotecoin]

Anyone can go and it's free, but you need to get a ticket. IIRC, they distribute them at HEB. Season ticket holders get tickets deposited into their accounts.

Any concrete news on this, Mel? I still see no official reference to it or to tickets for it, only for previous years.

Links?

[Mel_13]

Any concrete news on this, Mel? I still see no official reference to it or to tickets for it, only for previous years.

Links?

Not yet. I'll post any news I get.

[ElNono]

Won't be in the country... hopefully it will be streamed like year's past...

[littlecoyotecoin]

Won't be in the country... hopefully it will be streamed like year's past...

If they did, previously, you're probably good. Where you headed?

[ElNono]

If they did, previously, you're probably good. Where you headed?

down south to ARG, visiting family and friends... will be back in time to speculate about the upcoming season :D

[littlecoyotecoin]

down south to ARG, visiting family and friends... will be back in time to speculate about the upcoming season :D

Via Panama City, or direct flight? I know that airport well. Have a good trip.

[ElNono]

Via Panama City, or direct flight? I know that airport well. Have a good trip.

Direct from Dallas. Thanks!

[ace3g]

Spurs Host Open Scrimmage Presented By Nationwide on October 1
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/140922_spurs_open_scrimmage



Looks like you won't need tickets this time, Doors open at 5:30 (5 for season ticket holders)

[littlecoyotecoin]

Spurs Host Open Scrimmage Presented By Nationwide on October 1
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/140922_spurs_open_scrimmage



Looks like you won't need tickets this time, Doors open at 5:30 (5 for season ticket holders)

Thanks, Ace. You've always been a stand-up guy around here!

Let's get together at the scrimmage. I'll be the guy in the shirt.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Won't be in the country... hopefully it will be streamed like year's past...

NoNo, you're good, as per Ace3g's link:

"Fans unable to attend the scrimmage can follow the event live on Spurs.com or the Spurs Official Mobile App."

[DrunkTXLabrat]

the drunk guy will be there. and he'll be loud!

[TE]

cool, few people care that basketball is starting...

:flag:

[SpursFan86]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/live

[TE]

Goodness peoples you all are lazy

http://www.nba.com/spurs/live

[TE]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/live
beat me to it

[benstanfield]

:toast no Andrew Monaco

[TE]

cant see or hear shit

[TE]

Man,..this version if the ios is so buggy.

[jeebus]

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rofl team silver

[SpursFan86]

kinda sad how excited I am for this...I'm desperate for some Spurs basketball by this point in the offseason :lol

[benstanfield]

Damn, don't get to watch Jamychael Green destroy Ayres. Maybe Josh Davis.

[heyheymymy]

:flag::bobo:whine:lobt2:

lol was that boos after they announced Ayres?

[loveforthegame]

It's embarrassing how excited I am about this.

[loveforthegame]

Leonard picking up where he left off.

[sehui]

Why isn't tiago playing? is he hurt? or just resting from the world cup.

[Dex]

Why isn't tiago playing? is he hurt? or just resting from the world cup.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239581

[phyzik]

Bonner looks more toned than I remember him being.

[jeebus]

:flag::bobo:whine:lobt2:

lol was that boos after they announced Ayres?
it was. Spurs fans everywhere really don't like him :lol

[TE]

Kawhi will average a career high in steals this year tbh

[Dex]

Damn, Leonard looks good. :wow

[loveforthegame]

Leonard is doing it all. Shot looks as smooth as ever.

[phyzik]

Man, I hope Kahwi makes it looks this easy in the regular season.

[TE]

Kyle Anderson is being baptized lol.

[loveforthegame]

Bonner. :lol

[Dex]

:lmao Matt Bonner on the lob.

[SpursFan86]

Kawhi... :hungry:

[phyzik]

So what do we call the Green/Bonner connection?

[phyzik]

Is it just me, or did anyone else do a double-take when holland came on the court and thought "What is Dujan Blair doing here??"

[Dex]

Errors still only good for fouls.

[loveforthegame]

Nice to see Leonard handling the ball quite a bit and showing the post game off.

[Dex]

Daye fouling jump shooters. That is not going to earn him many minutes.

[jeebus]

Well, Daye and Errors are still disappointing.

[TE]

Kawhi looks really good. Added more to his game :tu.

[Dex]

Green looks like he has put considerable work into his layups. He needed it.

[TE]

Tbh, Kawhi did have a post game coming into the league. So it's not like he added it...more like refined.

[TE]

my feed is like 5 seconds behind

[Chinook]

Green and Leonard going toe to toe is awesome to see. Them getting better would be the biggest off-season addition of anyone in the West.

[NickiRasgo]

Kawhi is in! :lol

[LakerHater]

http://111.imagebam.com/download/DhWmmm6doD_UIbEQ8gzLNw/35504/355030664/lucha.gif

[Diego20]

2 Kawhis in??!

[LakerHater]

http://112.imagebam.com/download/h7bKB7pedm5BZxFQzRMIfA/35504/355032530/AlleyOop.gif

[loveforthegame]

Is this is a record of catches for Errors?

[Russ]

Will it end in time?

Will Pop make it to the McCartney show?

[hyhy]

2 Kawhis in??!
Exactly what I thought! cannot tell the difference at all from the live stream. We looked like we have a KD too..

[Chinook]

Hoping for a box score. Stream kept going out, but it sounds like it was a fun game.

[DesignatedT]

That was good :tu. Everyone looked solid considering most are not in great conditioning. Kawhi, Green, Tony look ready to start today.

Tony looks trimmed down too. I think Tony will have a similar regular season to his 2012 campaign this year. He looks poised for a big year.

[LakerHater]

http://112.imagebam.com/download/UYav8urIMmO2rMo6_73x6g/35504/355034742/BigSlam.gif

[Russ]

http://112.imagebam.com/download/UYav8urIMmO2rMo6_73x6g/35504/355034742/BigSlam.gif

Looks like All-Star Game defense. :lol

[edit] Ooops, I guess that spectator was actually an offensive teammate.

[edit] On the other hand, a 3 on 0 fast break does not exactly bespeak defensive intensity.

[Splits]

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rofl team silver

:lmao Diaw (not here)

[boutons_deux]

Bonner looks more toned than I remember him being.

I was pretty high up, but Matty did look leaner.

[HI-FI]

Bonner must want that race for seis as they say, ready to take another explosive shit on ST imo.

[spurraider21]

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rofl team silver
:bobo

[rude1_79]

Leonard post ups looked pretty solid. Hope we see more during the season

[Josh810]

Looks like All-Star Game defense. :lol

[edit] Ooops, I guess that spectator was actually an offensive teammate.

[edit] On the other hand, a 3 on 0 fast break does not exactly bespeak defensive intensity.
It was the very last play of the game with like 5 seconds left.

[ace3g]

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[Ditty]

Wasn't able to go to the open scrimmage for the first time since 2010 when they started having the open scrimmages to the public, because I had a exam today. From the little I saw earlier it looks like Matt Bonner won the open practice MVP again. He always tears it up in these open practices, then the season comes around. :lol

[yavozerb]

Wasn't able to go to the open scrimmage for the first time since 2010 when they started having the open scrimmages to the public, because I had a exam today. From the little I saw earlier it looks like Matt Bonner won the open practice MVP again. He always tears it up in these open practices, then the season comes around. :lol

Then the playoffs come around and the spurs need Bonner..

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

best dunk of the warm ups

http://instagram.com/p/tobFOeBuZF/

[UZER]

best dunk of the warm ups

http://instagram.com/p/tobFOeBuZF/

He'll be cut tomorrow by pop.

[Spur|n|Austin]

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/32/36/44/6940982/3/1920x1080.jpg

:bobo

[DrunkTXLabrat]

If you heard a loud ass fan cheering a lot of go spurs go's, that was me. Bonner, Kawhi, and J Green gave me a lot to cheer about.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Is this posted online anywhere? I had to work.

[ElNono]

Missed it, replay anywhere?

[HI-FI]

is Kawhi's stunt double going to Toros?
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/32/36/42/6940855/3/1920x1080.jpg

[szkorhetz]

How did Anderson look? Thanks!

[Fireball]

why do they put the whole media day video on Spurs.com but not the open scrimmage video? perhaps they still upload it today ...

[100%duncan]

VID PLS

[spursparker9]

best dunk of the warm ups

http://instagram.com/p/tobFOeBuZF/


I would waive Error for him

[hyhy]

is Kawhi's stunt double going to Toros?
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/32/36/42/6940855/3/1920x1080.jpg

there was this taiwan basketball drama
There was this coach that groomed triplets from young. But they registered only 1 player. So they would take turns playing and goes into the locker room to change during timeouts/half-time. Opponents though it was the same player, but they had different playing styles so they can never understand how he is going to play coz he was a different player.
After that, they registered all 3 players and had their numbers 33,38 and 39 (similar looking ones). A triplets running the floor and the defense always got confused.
You think pop watched that drama?

[wildchild]

Nice to see Leonard handling the ball quite a bit and showing the post game off.

Sounds really good, I'm glad to read...He was training with two PGs (TJ Ford and DJ Gay) in San Diego, I expect to see some ball handling/ball control improvements this new season. And more of his post game, of course.

[spursparker9]

there was this taiwan basketball drama
There was this coach that groomed triplets from young. But they registered only 1 player. So they would take turns playing and goes into the locker room to change during timeouts/half-time. Opponents though it was the same player, but they had different playing styles so they can never understand how he is going to play coz he was a different player.
After that, they registered all 3 players and had their numbers 33,38 and 39 (similar looking ones). A triplets running the floor and the defense always got confused.
You think pop watched that drama?

:lol I saw that drama before. Hotshot (2008)

Yea the opponents (protagonists) was wondering why the player was good in the low-post and then after a timeout, he would changed his playing style and attack from the perimeter.

[Mr. Body]

Report on Kyle Anderson, please.

[Dex]

Report on Kyle Anderson, please.

Played mostly at the 2 and 3. Didn't make much of a mark on the game, but he also didn't have the ball in his hands much. Seemed a little tentative and unsure where to be in the spacing, but that's not surprising after only 4 days of practice. Didn't try to do too much; stayed within the offense and made some decent passes. Rebounded the ball well. Had a nice layup off of a slow-mo-eurostep. Jump shot is still deliberate and slow and needs work...has a high release which helps, but needs to get rid of the ball faster.

[Solid D]

Report on Kyle Anderson, please.

Kyle played fairly well in the flow of the game. He certainly has a knack for defensive rebounding. The unofficial stats showed he had 3 reb., but I'm fairly sure he had at least 4. His length was useful, deflecting a side-ob pass while defending the in-bounder. Kyle's shooting stroke needs some work, however, he did make a couple of his patented slow-motion, change-of-pace dribble drives. On the first one, he missed. On he second, he fooled everyone scoring in traffic, gaining separation just by the mere lack of speed in his final 2 steps. It was Globe-Trotterish. His defense (other than rebounding) was rather poor and unremarkable.

[Solid D]

Oops, looks like Dex and I had similar observations. I agree, Dex.

[100%duncan]

Any full game?

[look_at_g_shred]

Any full game?

[boutons_deux]

I'd say there was about 15K people, and very noisy!

[beirmeistr]

Did MANU play AT ALL

[Chinook]

Did MANU play AT ALL

Yeah. Started at two-guard for the Sliver Team.

[beirmeistr]

Good news that manu played

[jsandiego]

I thought Danny Green looked fantastic. It was all-star game defense, but he was putting it on the floor without dribbling it off his leg. If he can add a drive and finish he'll be deadly. He's also letting that 3 fly on the pull-up and the pump-fake, not just a set shot.

Kawhi's post-game looks to be featured more too. He'd get the ball mid-post and either drill a face-up J, or back the defender down. If he starts commanding double-teams like he did in this scrimmage, it will open up our offense to even another level, if that's possible.

Also, I started thinking about the Green/Kawhi defensive combo -- is there a better 2/3 combo in the league on defense? Has there been a better 2/3 defensive combo since Jordan/Pippen? Maybe Manu/Bowen?? Kawhi reached on a player (Manu once that I remember, but like 3 times total) who beat their man with dribble penetration, and Kawhi just stripped it with his gynormo-hands, poked it away, leading to a fast break opportunity. Couple that with Green's ability to lock down the other wing, and we have an amazing perimeter defensive combo.

It looks like Kawhi continues to make the leap, and Green continues to add dimensions to his game. This could be huge as Tim & Manu continue to decline.

[aal04]

CIA pop

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He looks like the emotive version of Kawhi.

[mingus]

I thought Danny Green looked fantastic. It was all-star game defense, but he was putting it on the floor without dribbling it off his leg. If he can add a drive and finish he'll be deadly. He's also letting that 3 fly on the pull-up and the pump-fake, not just a set shot.

Kawhi's post-game looks to be featured more too. He'd get the ball mid-post and either drill a face-up J, or back the defender down. If he starts commanding double-teams like he did in this scrimmage, it will open up our offense to even another level, if that's possible.

Also, I started thinking about the Green/Kawhi defensive combo -- is there a better 2/3 combo in the league on defense? Has there been a better 2/3 defensive combo since Jordan/Pippen? Maybe Manu/Bowen?? Kawhi reached on a player (Manu once that I remember, but like 3 times total) who beat their man with dribble penetration, and Kawhi just stripped it with his gynormo-hands, poked it away, leading to a fast break opportunity. Couple that with Green's ability to lock down the other wing, and we have an amazing perimeter defensive combo.

It looks like Kawhi continues to make the leap, and Green continues to add dimensions to his game. This could be huge as Tim & Manu continue to decline.

Ive asked the same type of question about the Kawhi/Green defensive combo. If they're the best since Jordan/Pip defensively, then they're near the top of the list. IMO, their defensive dynamic is the most essential thing to this team. Funny how everyone talked about Spurs offense, it's really those two guys on D that I think have the most important role on the team.

[tim_duncan_fan]

He looks like the emotive version of Kawhi.

Kawhi finally broke down and hired an anger translator.

[Chinook]

I thought it was funny that the three players who are arguably the best Spurs were on one team, and the two best assistant coaches were on the other. Looks like coaching trumped talent last night. Really, though, Green going supernova is like the Spurs' Final Smash. There's nothing the other team can do if Danny's getting 24, most of it in the paint.

[Toni61]

Anybody have the srimmage on stream?

[Solid D]

Video Highlights of scrimmage. Includes Kawhi's more perfected post, face-up jumper and at the very end a somewhat slow mo of "Slow Mo" Anderson.

http://news4sanantonio.com//sports/features/local-sports/stories/young-old-spurs-show-up-scrimmage-1537.shtml

[ABC]

Video Highlights of scrimmage. Includes Kawhi's more perfected post, face-up jumper and at the very end a somewhat slow mo of "Slow Mo" Anderson.

http://news4sanantonio.com//sports/features/local-sports/stories/young-old-spurs-show-up-scrimmage-1537.shtml

Thanks!

[barakz21]

Video Highlights of scrimmage. Includes Kawhi's more perfected post, face-up jumper and at the very end a somewhat slow mo of "Slow Mo" Anderson.

http://news4sanantonio.com//sports/features/local-sports/stories/young-old-spurs-show-up-scrimmage-1537.shtml

thanks!!! And damn, that slomo move on Kawhi looked like an old school playground move!!!

[look_at_g_shred]

Wait.. Danny said Kyle was "athletic" Can anyone confirm?

[ceperez]

thanks!!! And damn, that slomo move on Kawhi looked like an old school playground move!!!

Rookie has potential!

[hyhy]

anyone has the full game?

[jsandiego]

Ive asked the same type of question about the Kawhi/Green defensive combo. If they're the best since Jordan/Pip defensively, then they're near the top of the list. IMO, their defensive dynamic is the most essential thing to this team. Funny how everyone talked about Spurs offense, it's really those two guys on D that I think have the most important role on the team.I've been thinking the same thing recently. It becomes more apparent to me how big of a deal it was that Jordan/Pippen were such great defenders. Kawhi/Danny defensive combo is a big deal when you're guarding Wade/Lebron in the Finals, and Westbrook/Durant in the WCF, and a Curry/Klay or even Dirk/Parsons combo. They are setting the tone. And while Kawhi gets all the pub, others have pointed out on this forum that Danny Green's advanced metrics are in many ways better than Kawhi's.

We have two great perimeter defenders capable of shutting down skilled offensive players. Their growth on both sides of the ball will determine our success this year.

[spursparker9]

I think the only duo that can break through Kawhi/Danny defensive combo are Westbrook and Durant only.

And possibly Lebron and Irving now.

[Brazil]

:lol me to be excited like a girl over a scrimmage game

most interesting for me was Kyle

I liked the fact he played through the motion not forcing anything. For the rest he played like we could expect, definitely a good rebounder, handle well the ball, he is long.... but then his release is freaking slow and defensively... meh

[look_at_g_shred]

:lol me to be excited like a girl over a scrimmage game

most interesting for me was Kyle

I liked the fact he played through the motion not forcing anything. For the rest he played like we could expect, definitely a good rebounder, handle well the ball, he is long.... but then his release is freaking slow and defensively... meh
Pretty good for a #30 pick. Will be our best pick since Kawhi by the way.

[Brazil]

Pretty good for a #30 pick. Will be our best pick since Kawhi by the way.


since kawhi ? ya not difficult we picked like what ? 5 times since kawhi ?


I like the

best case: magic johnson
worst case: boris diaw

[look_at_g_shred]

since kawhi ? ya not difficult we picked like what ? 5 times since kawhi ?


I like the

best case: magic johnson
worst case: boris diaw
let's be real tho he's not going to be magic johnson at best case :lol
best case: rondo.
worst case: boris diaw

[100%duncan]

let's be real tho he's not going to be magic johnson at best case :lol
best case: rondo.
worst case: boris diaw

That's a fucking insult to :bobo

[100%duncan]

thanks!!! And damn, that slomo move on Kawhi looked like an old school playground move!!!

That wasn't Kawhi :lol

[look_at_g_shred]

That's a fucking insult to :bobo
No insult. It's really a compliment to KA. The worst player he can become is Boris Diaw, which in reality, is really good. :bobo

[Brazil]

let's be real tho he's not going to be magic johnson at best case :lol
best case: rondo.
worst case: boris diaw

:lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

:lmao
:bobo

[100%duncan]

No insult. It's really a compliment to KA. The worst player he can become is Boris Diaw, which in reality, is really good. :bobo

you dont get it. Boris is so much better than the overrated overhyped Pg who cant shoot a jumper to save his life. :bobo

[look_at_g_shred]

you dont get it. Boris is so much better than the overrated overhyped Pg who cant shoot a jumper to save his life. :bobo
I get what your coming from. So you think Kyle can be better than Rondo? Overhyped or not. OK ok Best case : Rondo with a jumpshot lol just speculating

[littlecoyotecoin]

That's a fucking insult to :bobo

Yes.

[spurraider21]

his release is freaking slow
this was my biggest red flag on him when we drafted him. for all his passing skills and IQ and whatever, if you are going to be a perimeter player for the spurs, you are going to have to make your spot up shots. as a rookie, its not like he's going to be the primary point-forward off the bench and needs to be effective off the ball. if he can't beat a closeout because his shot is too slow, it could cause problems. he was accurate in college this last year (made 48% of his threes) but i think he needs to spend time with Chip the same way Kawhi did.

if he is able to speed up his release, with his natural length and high release he will work just fine. his playmaking can feed off of that, sort of like regular season Marco

if he's able to latch on, i would imagine his ball handling role will increase over time, but not anytime soon

[Brazil]

this was my biggest red flag on him when we drafted him. for all his passing skills and IQ and whatever, if you are going to be a perimeter player for the spurs, you are going to have to make your spot up shots. as a rookie, its not like he's going to be the primary point-forward off the bench and needs to be effective off the ball. if he can't beat a closeout because his shot is too slow, it could cause problems. he was accurate in college this last year (made 48% of his threes) but i think he needs to spend time with Chip the same way Kawhi did.

if he is able to speed up his release, with his natural length and high release he will work just fine. his playmaking can feed off of that, sort of like regular season Marco

if he's able to latch on, i would imagine his ball handling role will increase over time, but not anytime soon

He can work his release, Spurs system will give him some open looks with plenty of time (see Matt) so for me that's not the biggest red flag. The biggest red flag is on the defensive end. I'm not sure what kind of players he will be able to defend.

His first step and lateral quickness are really bad tbh he will be blown by most of modern SFs or guards. We can try to hide him against low athletic non scoring bigs but elite teams often don't have this kind of player, he will be limited on a lot of match ups. Off the bench issue is less critical but even that we can question his capability to hold his ground.

[skulls138]

this was my biggest red flag on him when we drafted him. for all his passing skills and IQ and whatever, if you are going to be a perimeter player for the spurs, you are going to have to make your spot up shots. as a rookie, its not like he's going to be the primary point-forward off the bench and needs to be effective off the ball. if he can't beat a closeout because his shot is too slow, it could cause problems. he was accurate in college this last year (made 48% of his threes) but i think he needs to spend time with Chip the same way Kawhi did.

if he is able to speed up his release, with his natural length and high release he will work just fine. his playmaking can feed off of that, sort of like regular season Marco

if he's able to latch on, i would imagine his ball handling role will increase over time, but not anytime soonI don't know if he needs to have a quick release, just as long as it is accurate. If its accurate then they'll rush at him and he can fake and put it on the floor where hes in his element.

[Chinook]

I don't know if he needs to have a quick release, just as long as it is accurate. If its accurate then they'll rush at him and he can fake and put it on the floor where hes in his element.

Anderson should be able to avoid getting his shot blocked no matter how slow the release is. But it might be hard for him to get clean looks at the basket during hard-closes. Players like Green have really quick releases, so they're open even if their men are just a step or two away. Anderson's man can play off him while still being able to recover and get a hand in Kyle's face. That hurts spacing, while also allowing Anderson's man to play for the drive until Kyle commits to the shot.

[Chinook]

He can work his release, Spurs system will give him some open looks with plenty of time (see Matt) so for me that's not the biggest red flag. The biggest red flag is on the defensive end. I'm not sure what kind of players he will be able to defend.

His first step and lateral quickness are really bad tbh he will be blown by most of modern SFs or guards. We can try to hide him against low athletic non scoring bigs but elite teams often don't have this kind of player, he will be limited on a lot of match ups. Off the bench issue is less critical but even that we can question his capability to hold his ground.

I think he'll be able to defend well enough to say on the floor if the other wings are all good defenders. He's not much slower than Beli, but Anderson has better length and recovery instincts. You put Splitter behind him, and Kyle can do a decent job of funneling his man to the appropriate side. What Anderson has to work on most defensively is his help instincts. He's just too slow to recover to his man after providing any help. He has great instincts in playing passing lanes and getting help blocks, but he gambles too much with how little his margin of error is.

Also, Anderson needs some bulk regardless of what position his plays. Leonard bullied him in the post, and while Kawhi is a good post player, Anderson has to be able to guard his man in a phone booth, because he sure can't take him on an island.

[Brazil]

I think he'll be able to defend well enough to say on the floor if the other wings are all good defenders. He's not much slower than Beli, but Anderson has better length and recovery instincts. You put Splitter behind him, and Kyle can do a decent job of funneling his man to the appropriate side. What Anderson has to work on most defensively is his help instincts. He's just too slow to recover to his man after providing any help. He has great instincts in playing passing lanes and getting help blocks, but he gambles too much with how little his margin of error is.

Also, Anderson needs some bulk regardless of what position his plays. Leonard bullied him in the post, and while Kawhi is a good post player, Anderson has to be able to guard his man in a phone booth, because he sure can't take him on an island.

ya with Splitter, Green and Kawhi on the floor he sure can stay on the floor, problem is there are few chances he can see a lot of PT with them. He will have some PT with the second unit... scary thing you could imagine him with Beli at the same time...


I agree on your second point, so let's sum up difficult to keep up with Guards / SFs, will have hard time against mobile bigs or bulky bigs who can score, we cannot hide him much on the second unit knowing supposedly he won't see a lot of minutes with first unit.

That's gonna be his biggest challenge imo

[barakz21]

That wasn't Kawhi :lol

Davis? Eh, looked like kawhi though. Plus couldn't see it clearly since I was checking it on my phone in class. :lol

[mingus]

I've been thinking the same thing recently. It becomes more apparent to me how big of a deal it was that Jordan/Pippen were such great defenders. Kawhi/Danny defensive combo is a big deal when you're guarding Wade/Lebron in the Finals, and Westbrook/Durant in the WCF, and a Curry/Klay or even Dirk/Parsons combo. They are setting the tone. And while Kawhi gets all the pub, others have pointed out on this forum that Danny Green's advanced metrics are in many ways better than Kawhi's.

We have two great perimeter defenders capable of shutting down skilled offensive players. Their growth on both sides of the ball will determine our success this year.

Green's almost the best he can be already IMO. All he has to do is get that runner or mid-range shot to fall with more consistency and he'll be there. Don't know if that is essential but it would help definitely. But, I think in happy with his play as is on offense as a whole (still makes dumb decisions at times in terms of passing, can't dribble, and not a finisher in traffic, but I can't see those thing markedly improving if any). Kawhi OTOH I agree with you on. He'll have to be able to put the ball in the hole and take more of a scoring load. Manu's stress fracture at the end of the season is a sign of whats to come with him in terms of how much we can rely on his health (even in the limited time he plays). Kawhi's gotta be the guy that picks up the slack.

[ceperez]

Anderson should be able to avoid getting his shot blocked no matter how slow the release is. But it might be hard for him to get clean looks at the basket during hard-closes. Players like Green have really quick releases, so they're open even if their men are just a step or two away. Anderson's man can play off him while still being able to recover and get a hand in Kyle's face. That hurts spacing, while also allowing Anderson's man to play for the drive until Kyle commits to the shot.

Chip Engeland will fix that slow release for sure. The nice thing though is that it is a high release, so given his height and reach, it's going to be very tough to close out on. The key to Anderson is that he doesn't get off the ground much when he shoots, so this gives him the option of easily faking his opponent and either penetrating or taking yet another shot.

With Anderson and Daye as additional weapons in hitting the 3, the Spurs seem to be unstoppable going into this season.

[ceperez]

He can work his release, Spurs system will give him some open looks with plenty of time (see Matt) so for me that's not the biggest red flag. The biggest red flag is on the defensive end. I'm not sure what kind of players he will be able to defend.

His first step and lateral quickness are really bad tbh he will be blown by most of modern SFs or guards. We can try to hide him against low athletic non scoring bigs but elite teams often don't have this kind of player, he will be limited on a lot of match ups. Off the bench issue is less critical but even that we can question his capability to hold his ground.

The Spurs play mostly team defense. Splitter can barely jump but he has a lot of praise for his defense. Heck, Duncan can also barely jump but his like a fly swatter in defense. You can attribute this to his length. Fortunately, Anderson has a lot of length and that's very useful in defense.

[Brazil]

The Spurs play mostly team defense. Splitter can barely jump but he has a lot of praise for his defense. Heck, Duncan can also barely jump but his like a fly swatter in defense. You can attribute this to his length. Fortunately, Anderson has a lot of length and that's very useful in defense.

Splitter and Duncan are really bad example there tbh

splitter is pretty bulky and one of the best p&r defender in the league, he can chase bigs shooting long 2s or jumpers, his first step and lateral quickness are mostly fine. No need to comment on Timmy.

[Chinook]

The Spurs play mostly team defense.

No. The Spurs play man defense almost exclusively. Just because they're good at helping each other doesn't change that. I agree that Anderson would be fine if surrounded by good defenders, but his inability to guard his man would be a major liability. Kyle himself is good in team defense, but as I said above he is too slow to recover after providing help, so that will limit his effectiveness there as well.

[look_at_g_shred]

Man relax.
i see a bunch of people saying kyle won't be able to guard his man. That he's gonna get blown by. It's a just speculation at this point. Let him play an NBA game first lol. The way KA plays this year will not dictate the Spurs' success this season. There definitely will b some growing pains, but I feel too many people are sleeping on Anderson. lol at everyone freaking out.

[ceperez]

Man relax.
i see a bunch of people saying kyle won't be able to guard his man. That he's gonna get blown by. It's a just speculation at this point. Let him play an NBA game first lol. The way KA plays this year will not dictate the Spurs' success this season. There definitely will b some growing pains, but I feel too many people are sleeping on Anderson. lol at everyone freaking out.

I agree that it's just all speculation that he'll get blown by frequently be the opponent. I have no idea how slow he is, nor do I know if his length would make him effective in defense.

However for all these folks who keep worry about lack of athleticism, look at the Spurs..... who are the athletes?

Duncan - Can't even jump an inch off the floor.
Splitter - Rarely can dunk with authority despite being 6'11"
Parker - Can barely dunk the ball.
Mills - At 5'11" compensates mostly by being a pest. Not even sure he can dunk, but there's rumor that he can.
Bonner - Really slow feet.
Belinelli - Barely gets off the floor with his jump shot.
Diaw - Rumor has it that he used to be athletic, but with all that weight, he barely gets off the floor.
Ginobili - Loss alot of athleticism since his younger days. Used to be athletic, but age catches up.
Daye - Runs like he has cement shoes on.

The only real athletes are:

Leonard - Doesn't have crazy vertical jump, but compensates with his length.
Green - However doesn't seem to have lateral quickness.
Ayres - Sometimes misses dunks.
Joseph - Has average athleticism for an NBA player.
Baynes - Seems to have some lift, but I'm not sure.

So I don't care if Anderson appears unatheletic.... the entire team consists mostly of unathletic people!

Anderson, if he improves his shooting (which likely he will being coached by Chip) has a lot of upside.

[SupremeGuy]

Is there anywhere I can watch this game? Was it broadcast on TV or anything?

[boutons_deux]

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[testies]

No insult. It's really a compliment to KA. The worst player he can become is Boris Diaw, which in reality, is really good. :bobo

You aren't this dumb are you?