Livio Jean Charles Uninterested With Playing in the D-Leauge

[cd021]

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/spurs-livio-jean-charles-really-doesnt-want-to-play-in-d-league.html



"I do not know when I’ll go to the NBA because I do not control everything. But one thing is for sure, I’m not a big fan of the D-League because the game is not the same."

[cd98]

Not a good attitude for someone that may not even have The skills to make an NBA roster.

[superbigtime]

Sends worst message possible. Lazy, immature, entitled, etc.

[Splits]

Well, he's right. The d-league fucking sucks, especially as a Euro. The pay is horrid, the competition and interest is lacking, and very few players make the jump to the NBA.

[spursparker9]

Can't blame him. Euro > D-League

[Mikeanaro]

He´s right, there is no room for him in San Antonio, not right now.

[Chinook]

I mean, Jean-Charles is postponing guaranteed money by choosing to stay in Europe rather than signing with the Spurs. So I can understand him not wanting to come over here just to play in the d-league. That said, he's still working on becoming an NBA small-forward, or at least an actualized combo-forward. That type of transition is easier to do in the d-league, since the players are worse. He also needs to continue to work on his shot, and that's something he can also do better getting huge minutes in Austin. It's to his benefit to play for the Toros as much as possible for a couple of years (or hopefully just part of one). He'll get his chance in SA over the course of the season.

I do think he'll make a fine rotation player, even as a rookie, however. If he were healthy and on the roster last season, he would have been active for a lot of the games, and not just the ones where the team had all the injuries.

[Chinook]

Oh, and the Spurs are totally bringing him over next season. No way they let his rookie-scale restriction expire and end up having to negotiate with him.

[exstatic]

Spurs sent a coach over to work with him all year, so they aren't upset about this. Someone forgot to post that part...

[TheyCallMePro]

All words do not provide the meaning intended when read on paper. I have no idea what he meant but you are now scolding him for meanings you have interpreted. This is a pattern of assuming attitudinal issue with draft picks. R Richards is a "bad apple" because he changed teams, etc Why do this ? We will learn who he is, if and when he is with the team, if he ever is.
He might have only been referencing the new option of draft picks to play in the D league without being signed by the parent club and still being under the rights of the club that drafted him, or maybe just thinking that playing a full year in the D league might not prepare him anymore than Euro League, etc.

[PÒÓCH]

http://i.imgur.com/BDq2p4J.jpg

[Richie]

Sends worst message possible. Lazy, immature, entitled, etc.

Disagree, as others have said the D League is a much lower standard than Europe. Why move to another country just to play a lower standard of basketball?

[ElNono]

Did he win anything in Europe?

[cd021]

If he does come over next season, he will likely be the 3rd PF in the depth chart. More than likely, he will probably spend a good chunk of the season in the D-league whether he wants to or not.

[itzsoweezee]

the reason, he said, is "because the game is not the same."

[Mikeanaro]

Maybe Charles was expecting something better, scrubs like Rubio playing as starters and Spurs sending him to the D-League to play against alcoholics doesnt sound good.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8vN1H5ZGhzc/UP8G0JebZjI/AAAAAAAAGuI/i_Uk3Db4Olo/s1600/asian-crying.gif

[TE]

the reason, he said, is "because the game is not the same."
He has a point. I'd rather play in Europe or save myself for a season of basketball there over playing in a me-first dominant amateur league in the D-League.

[cjw]

These interviews often get lost in translation. He may just mean that he's not going to play in the D League without an NBA contract and there's no reason for him to. As some have mentioned, there's a very good chance we'll see him in 300+ days at summer league.

[ontheraise]

the reason, he said, is "because the game is not the same."

that's a nice way to say that D league suck and he's right, europe>>>>>Dleague and it's not even close

[benefactor]

Well he's probably going to play in the D-League some...depending on the Spurs roster situation...but he'll be compensated much better than most of those players as he will be on his rookie scale contract for a first round pick(If the Spurs bring him over in that window, which I agree with Chinook they they will try to).

[ChumpDumper]

These interviews often get lost in translation. He may just mean that he's not going to play in the D League without an NBA contract and there's no reason for him to. As some have mentioned, there's a very good chance we'll see him in 300+ days at summer league.That's a fair bet.

And he's right: the D-League is different. The pace is faster and play is sloppier. One is never going to see the teamwork and ball movement seen on the Spurs. If a player -- especially a big man -- has the chance to play at the highest level of Euro ball to develop for the NBA, he should take it. Lower levels and crappy domestic leagues? Could be a wash, but the money could be better over there.

[Tim_5rings]

ASVEL can play euroleague they have a small chance to qualify, so euroleague is better than d-league

[smaka]

Screw him with that attitude. If he really wants to play for the Spurs, he'll have to prove himself first - whether that's in D-League or somewhere else.

[romain.star]

Did he win anything in Europe?

Winners' opinions are not always right and vice versa

[jyra]

ASVEL can play euroleague they have a small chance to qualify, so euroleague is better than d-league

Thanks for the reminder, I totally forgot this. If anyone else is interested, it will take place from Sept. 23.-26.
Unics Kazan (with Sankidize, Curtis Jerrells and James White btw) are the big favorites to win but you can never know what happens in single elimination tournaments.

[MarCowMar]

Not wanting to play in the D League indicates he has appreciation for good basketball and values his time.

The only time D League makes sense is to send raw players down to get minutes when they're trapped at the end of the bench.

[superbigtime]

You gotta start in the mailroom and work your way up sometimes. I know the D-League sux but who does this guy think he is, Allen Iverson?

[baseline bum]

Don't DLeague players make something like $400 a week? I wouldn't play for that bullshit either without a contract from the Spurs if I can make decent money in Europe.

[Chinook]

Oh crap, that quote's from a Project Spurs article? He could have meant anything, as PS is terrible with translations (on purpose a lot of the time).

[PingPong]

Euroleague can be far better than d-league. But he saying it openly makes him sound like a Nando De Culo 2.

[jyra]

Oh crap, that quote's from a Project Spurs article? He could have meant anything, as PS is terrible with translations (on purpose a lot of the time).

Here is the original interview and the relevant passage:

http://www.bebasket.fr/a/46764-itw-livio-jean-charles-je-ne-suis-pas-un-grand-fan-de-la-d-league


Je ne sais pas quand j’irai en NBA car on ne contrôle pas tout. Mais une chose est sûre, je ne suis pas un grand fan de la D-League car le jeu n’est pas trop construit.


Rough translation:

"I don't know when I will play in the NBA because you can't control everything. But one thing is certain, I'm not a big fan of the D-League because the play is not very structured/organized."

[ducks]

I thought the spurs were running the system in d league as spurs do in nba

[Mnky]

Screw him with that attitude. If he really wants to play for the Spurs, he'll have to prove himself first - whether that's in D-League or somewhere else.


He destroyed the rest of his draft class stat wise in a competitive game. He's definitely already proved he belongs at the NBA level. If he didn't have that injury, he would be with the team already.

You get paid better, living conditions are better, and you get much better competition in Europe. Why would you trade all that in for a worse situation, and an opportunity to stunt your growth.


I don't think he's being stuck up, if you see his interviews he seems like a real down to earth kid. I believe he's just intelligent. :toast

[ElNono]

Winners' opinions are not always right and vice versa

Leading teams to victory is normally a good sign though...

[Mr. Body]

My, my, a lot of jackasses in this thread.

Stay close to home playing with a team that's actually a team, against teams that are better collective competition, or tool around small cities in the United States for no apparent reason playing against inferior competition with teammates who are marginal at best?

Seems pretty smart to me.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i don't blame him at all. i wish he was also saying he was uninterested with playin in europe. i wish he would call out the spurs for keeping him off the roster all together.

[Chinook]

My, my, a lot of jackasses in this thread.

Stay close to home playing with a team that's actually a team, against teams that are better collective competition, or tool around small cities in the United States for no apparent reason playing against inferior competition with teammates who are marginal at best?

Seems pretty smart to me.

LJC is playing no where near his home right now. SA is much closer.

[cd021]

Don't DLeague players make something like $400 a week? I wouldn't play for that bullshit either without a contract from the Spurs if I can make decent money in Europe.

I've heard they make about $25,000 so it would be about to $480. That wouldn't be what he would get payed ,though. It would be around $980,000.

[Chinook]

I've heard they make about $25,000 so it would be about to $480. That wouldn't be what he would get payed ,though. It would be around $980,000.

Yeah. I don't think LJC was talking about d-league pay. It's possible, though, since he may not understand that players sent down get paid their normal wage. I think he just means he doesn't want to play most of his games in Austin. De Colo was the same way. The difference is that Nando is a fine European player, whereas Jean-Charles is a lower-level prospect. He'll have to get lucky to have a major role on the team next year.

[exstatic]

Yeah. I don't think LJC was talking about d-league pay. It's possible, though, since he may not understand that players sent down get paid their normal wage. I think he just means he doesn't want to play most of his games in Austin. De Colo was the same way. The difference is that Nando is a fine European player, whereas Jean-Charles is a lower-level prospect. He'll have to get lucky to have a major role on the team next year.

I don't think he expects a major role, just that he develops in San Antonio. I think DeColo expected more than that, like rotation minutes instead of the cleanup duty he ended up with.

[cd021]

I don't think he expects a major role, just that he develops in San Antonio. I think DeColo expected more than that, like rotation minutes instead of the cleanup duty he ended up with.

Some of De Colo's expectations came from Pop, who basically said that he was the backup PG before the '13 playoff and then went with Cojo.