Aaron Baynes will re-sign

[T Park]

In town for a physical.

[Ron Swanson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

[Splits]

514955485641211905

[Chinook]

Good. I'd still like to see a trade happen. Wouldn't be all that surprised to see Daye or Ayres cut if someone else has a great camp, though.

[Kool Bob Love]

:rollinAll 29 NBA teams.

[illusioNtEk]

1.5 mil ?

[SupremeGuy]

FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!

:ihit

[Ice009]

In town for a physical.

I assume you got that from Buck Harvey's twitter? If so, how about giving him credit for it?

[SupremeGuy]

Good. I'd still like to see a trade happen. Wouldn't be all that surprised to see Daye or Ayres cut if someone else has a great camp, though.Goodnight, sweet Errors.

[wildcardX]

Baynes is back! Spurs Talk is celebrating! Chose the Spurs over China. Now hit his music!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdo106gMaI8

[wildcardX]

Oh well, music fail:(.........Welcome back Baynes.......

[jeebus]

meanwhile, here's exstatic, knowing that his boy is pretty much a goner

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x8/Roofies8858/KenPark2.gif

[Robz4000]

Great news, especially if Errors is jettisoned.

[MI21]

meanwhile, here's exstatic, knowing that his boy is pretty much a goner

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x8/Roofies8858/KenPark2.gif

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

lol spurfan is master of self delusion

[timtonymanu]

Good to see Baynes back. He did serviceable enough in the playoffs to be brought back.

Hopefully Errors is gone forever. :lol

[SupremeGuy]

meanwhile, here's exstatic, knowing that his boy is pretty much a goner

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x8/Roofies8858/KenPark2.gifAnd that chumpdumper faggot, tbh. :lol

[superbigtime]

Awesome news!

[baseline bum]

Nice.

[ChumpDumper]

And that chumpdumper faggot, tbh. :lolSo will you kill yourself if he's on the opening night roster?

[baseline bum]

meanwhile, here's exstatic, knowing that his boy is pretty much a goner

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x8/Roofies8858/KenPark2.gif

How'd that nig shoot himself without the hammer moving?

[jeebus]

And that chumpdumper faggot, tbh. :lol
he won't be missed tbh

[jeebus]

How'd that nig shoot himself without the hammer moving?
He's a gingerfag; they have notoriously bad luck

[ChumpDumper]

he won't be missed tbhSo will you kill yourself if Ayres stays?

[tmtcsc]

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/6316/8ng5fo.gif

[SupremeGuy]

So will you kill yourself if he's on the opening night roster?Still being a bitch for Errors huh? :lol


he won't be missed tbhNo he won't, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Great news, especially if Errors is jettisoned.

http://www.clevelandseniors.com/images/petfun/praying-dog-boy.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Still being a bitch for Errors huh? :lolNo. You didn't answer the question.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I can't wait to see a break out year for Baynes.

[cd021]

4 Centers....

I really hope its for the QA and not a multi-year deal.

[ChumpDumper]

4 Centers....

I really hope its for the QA and not a multi-year deal.Who is the fourth one?

[cd021]

Who is the fourth one?

Duncan, Splitter, Ayers, Baynes. Splitter technically plays PF (or atleast guards them almost exclusively)

[ChumpDumper]

Duncan, Splitter, Ayers, Baynes. Splitter technically plays PF (or atleast guards them almost exclusively)Ah, I would think of Ayers as being more of a PF.

[T Park]

Good. I'd still like to see a trade happen. Wouldn't be all that surprised to see Daye or Ayres cut if someone else has a great camp, though.

No reason to cut anyone.

[T Park]

Good to see the homophobia and stupidity is still running rampant.

[spurraider21]

No reason to cut anyone.
15 man roster

1. Duncan
2. Splitter
3. Leonard
4. Green
5. Parker
6. Ginobili
7. Diaw
8. Mills
9. Belinelli
10. Joseph
11. Bonner
12. Anderson
13. Baynes
14. Daye
15. Ayres

as it stands now we technically don't have to make any cuts. with all the guys we've been bringing in for workouts though it seems like they want to add somebody else to the 15 man squad, unless its basically toros tryouts

[mudyez]

15 man roster

1. Duncan
2. Splitter
3. Leonard
4. Green
5. Parker
6. Ginobili
7. Diaw
8. Mills
9. Belinelli
10. Joseph
11. Bonner
12. Anderson
13. Baynes
14. Daye
15. Ayres


I know this roster...It's the 2014 champs plus Anderson! (don't think a champ brought back all of its guys before and if so probably in the 50s/60s)

[ChumpDumper]

15 man roster

1. Duncan
2. Splitter
3. Leonard
4. Green
5. Parker
6. Ginobili
7. Diaw
8. Mills
9. Belinelli
10. Joseph
11. Bonner
12. Anderson
13. Baynes
14. Daye
15. Ayres

as it stands now we technically don't have to make any cuts. with all the guys we've been bringing in for workouts though it seems like they want to add somebody else to the 15 man squad, unless its basically toros tryoutsI would guess the latter, though the full roster limits them to three affiliate players instead of four. A fourth would have to be on the opening day roster.

Cotton
Franklin
Davis

Some nice Toros starters. Will be interesting to see if they just start three forwards with Green and Anderson or try to get a true big man.

[Dex]

:elephant

All that needs to be said, tbh.

[Chinook]

I would guess the latter, though the full roster limits them to three affiliate players instead of four. A fourth would have to be on the opening day roster.

Cotton
Franklin
Davis

Some nice Toros starters. Will be interesting to see if they just start three forwards with Green and Anderson or try to get a true big man.

Is Green still the Toros' if he goes to the d-league?

[ChumpDumper]

Is Green still the Toros' if he goes to the d-league?As far as I can tell, yes.

[MI21]

Drop Errors and then get someone who can reasonably play 5MPG in emergency services without being horrendously useless.

Or get some young longshot prospect and work with him.

[cd021]

Ah, I would think of Ayers as being more of a PF.

He plays a bit of both. For his career, basketball reference has it at 53% C and 45% at PF. Last season it was 53% PF, & 43% C.

[spurraider21]

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) will get the good news once he lands in mexico-south

[cd021]

I would guess the latter, though the full roster limits them to three affiliate players instead of four. A fourth would have to be on the opening day roster.

Cotton
Franklin
Davis

Some nice Toros starters. Will be interesting to see if they just start three forwards with Green and Anderson or try to get a true big man.

Has Franklin been signed to a training camp deal yet? I know they were working him out but the Wizards did 3 days ago too.

[ChumpDumper]

Has Franklin been signed to a training camp deal yet? I know they were working him out but the Wizards did 3 days ago too.Probably weighing offers. Some team might give him guaranteed money on an NBA roster. Spurs won't.

[spurraider21]

Probably weighing offers. Some team might give him guaranteed money on an NBA roster. Spurs won't.
how do you know that? who are your contacts within the spurs front office?

[ChumpDumper]

He plays a bit of both. For his career, basketball reference has it at 53% C and 45% at PF. Last season it was 53% PF, & 43% C.Guess it depends on with whom he's playing. I would never call him a C playing with Splitter or Duncan.

[ChumpDumper]

how do you know that? who are your contacts within the spurs front office?Call it a prediction. You can lol if I'm wrong.

[spurraider21]

Call it a prediction. You can lol if I'm wrong.
So you don't know. Thanks for clarifying.

[ChumpDumper]

So you don't know. Thanks for clarifying.No problem. I didn't know my words were so important to you.

I will remember you slavishly follow every syllable. :tu

Let me know next time I can help you understand.

[spurraider21]

No problem. I didn't know my words were so important to you.

I will remember you slavishly follow every syllable. :tu

Let me know next time I can help you understand.
And I will remember that you are thinking about me with every syllable you type.

[SpursFan86]

So you don't know. Thanks for clarifying.

You must be a hit IRL.

Friend: "Man, I can't wait for the concert. It's gonna be awesome."

You: "How do you know? Did you travel in time and already see what it was going to be like?"

[ChumpDumper]

And I will remember that you are thinking about me with every syllable you type.So you'll be thinking of me even more. :tu

[spurraider21]

You must be a hit IRL.

Friend: "Man, I can't wait for the concert. It's gonna be awesome."

You: "How do you know? Did you travel in time and already see what it was going to be like?"
:lol i'm just playing chump's own game with him

[ChumpDumper]

:lol i'm just playing chump's own game with himPoorly tbh.

[spurraider21]

So you'll be thinking of me even more. :tu
so you're going to be thinking about me thinking about you thinking about me thinking about you...

this can go on for a while so i'll just leave it at this

http://reflectingonmonroe.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/1362683571_1237820926m1zl73.jpg

[spurraider21]

Poorly tbh.
Explain how.

Be specific.

maybe i should use the :tu emoticon more

[ChumpDumper]

so you're going to be thinking about me thinking about you thinking about me thinking about you...

this can go on for a while so i'll just leave it at this

http://reflectingonmonroe.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/1362683571_1237820926m1zl73.jpgI didn't say I would be thinking about that.

[ChumpDumper]

Explain how.

Be specific.

maybe i should use the :tu emoticon more
See above.

[spurraider21]

See above.
You said I was playing the game poorly before I had made the mirrors comment.

Explain why it was poorly done up until that point.

Be specific.

[ChumpDumper]

You said I was playing the game poorly before I had made the mirrors comment.

Explain why it was poorly done up until that point.

Be specific.First, you started off on something I don't normally call people out on. It's an obvious prediction.

Second, it was only a matter of time before something like your gaffe happened.

Nice try though. I take it as an homage. Always good to be thought of.

[HI-FI]

meanwhile, here's exstatic, knowing that his boy is pretty much a goner

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x8/Roofies8858/KenPark2.gif
:rollin
uh huh

[Baynes]

:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I want to see J Green play with Baynes. The hustle would be off the charts. Anderson and Beli light it up with Cojo on d and dimes.

[spurraider21]

First, you started off on something I don't normally call people out on. It's an obvious prediction.
ok. that still leaves the possibility of you occasionally calling people out on it. fair game


Second, it was only a matter of time before something like your gaffe happened.
this i completely agree with. it's a very neurotic posting style.


Nice try though. I take it as an homage. Always good to be thought of.
you can take it however you want. from my vantage point it's all good fun

[ChumpDumper]

ok. that still leaves the possibility of you occasionally calling people out on it. fair gameIt's a weak move, I admit. So no surprise you'd try it.



this i completely agree with. it's a very neurotic posting style.Not really.



you can take it however you want. from my vantage point it's all good funSure it is.

[spurraider21]

It's a weak move, I admit. So no surprise you'd try it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muFR_Sdtfxk


Not really.

it's all too structured and reeks of obsessive-compulsivity, which would qualify as neurotic

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muFR_SdtfxkLow quality cap. Seems little desperate.


it's all too structured and reeks of obsessive-compulsivity, which would qualify as neuroticI doubt your diagnostic credentials.

[HI-FI]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muFR_Sdtfxk



it's all too structured and reeks of obsessive-compulsivity, which would qualify as neurotic
when multiple people are using an account, it's best to keep things structured to avoid any irregularities imo.

[spurraider21]

Low quality cap. Seems little desperate.
i knew the clip i was looking for, this one was the first i found. had i spent more time searching and searching for a higher quality vid, that would actually make it appear more desperate

I doubt your diagnostic credentials.
feel free to. but be warned i have taken AP psychology so i'm basically an expert in the field

[SupremeGuy]

You must be a hit IRL.

Friend: "Man, I can't wait for the concert. It's gonna be awesome."

You: "How do you know? Did you travel in time and already see what it was going to be like?":lmao

[Fireball]

good to see Baynes will be back !!!

[spursparker9]

Ok so basically is the whole 2014 nba championship team

with a single addition of Rookie Kyle Anderson but with the subtraction of injuries of Patty(for the early season) and Manu (status unknown yet).

Counting Baynes in, is there still roster space for any training camp invitee to make the roster? I remember Bryon Cotton who played in the Summer League was one of the invitee right?

[spurraider21]

Ok so basically is the whole 2014 nba championship team

with a single addition of Rookie Kyle Anderson but with the subtraction of injuries of Patty(for the early season) and Manu (status unknown yet).

Counting Baynes in, is there still roster space for any training camp invitee to make the roster? I remember Bryon Cotton who played in the Summer League was one of the invitee right?
counting baynes we have a full 15 man roster... only 13 of which can be active on a given gameday. at this point the only way to get somebody else on the roster is if we trade some spots open or if we cut players. it would be out of the ordinary for the spurs to cut somebody since at this point everybody's deals are guaranteed. it's not like the spurs to cut players and waste pocket money, even though cutting ayres would be sensible given the state of our roster

with duncan, splitter, diaw, baynes, and bonner, we really don't have a need for ayres. the fact that they chose to re-sign bonner and extended a QO (soon to sign) to Baynes shows they actually wanted those guys. i suspect if ayres had been on a 1 year deal rather than 2, he wouldn't be on the roster rn

[anakha]

Counting Baynes in, is there still roster space for any training camp invitee to make the roster? I remember Bryon Cotton who played in the Summer League was one of the invitee right?

Not without letting someone else go, since the Spurs are currently already at the 15-player maximum.

[Chinook]

i suspect if ayres had been on a 1 year deal rather than 2, he wouldn't be on the roster rn

Or if he were the one with the partially guaranteed second year instead of Daye.

[spursparker9]

Not without letting someone else go, since the Spurs are currently already at the 15-player maximum.

I see. Please let Errors go !!!!

[spurraider21]

I see. Please let Errors go !!!!
it would be an unlikely yet welcome surprise if holt actually agreed to cough up the dough

[ceperez]

Spurs have 15 guaranteed contracts and training camp hasn't even started?

Can the Spurs still sign someone if Mills is injury reserve?

[benefactor]

Prediction...Bayes will realize there is no market for him. He takes the QO and is with the Spurs before the first of the month.
:wakeup

[cd021]

I want to see J Green play with Baynes. The hustle would be off the charts. Anderson and Beli light it up with Cojo on d and dimes.

So our bench would be Cojo-Beli-Anderson-Green-Baynes?

Manu and Diaw?

[cd021]

Spurs have 15 guaranteed contracts and training camp hasn't even started?

Can the Spurs still sign someone if Mills is injury reserve?

They have to have a spot open

[wildchild]

Great news!
We won't see Adams and other bigs eating Ayres alive...


:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:
:flag:

[Dex]

hQo1HIcSVtg

[spurspokesman]

Cool

[bigfan]

Glad to read Baynes is likely coming back. Yeah, I know he's a 3rd stringer and aint all that great but our team needs one big ole bruiser to go against D. Howard and whoever else when the situation comes up.

[DesignatedT]

Daye is most likely the one to get waved if somebody impresses in camp. He and to a lesser extent Ayres aren't exactly safe just yet.

[ElNono]

ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) will get the good news once he lands in mexico-south

Good shit. :tu

[manufan10]

Glad too see that Baynes is coming back.

[ginobilized]

Glad Bangers is back. He got to raise his confidence level this summer and that never hurts.

I am no Spurstradamas, but, I'd predict that Ayres and Daye have a fair amount of proving to do in training camp and up to the trade deadline.
It makes all the sense in the world to bring this entire team back along with Anderson. The clock will be ticking on Ayres and Daye.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

So our bench would be Cojo-Beli-Anderson-Green-Baynes?

Manu and Diaw?

I'm counting Manu out for as long as Mills. Manu is so injury prone, it's hard for me to even factor him into regular season lineups at all. i kinda forgot about Diaw, Splitter, Timmy. I think with Mills and Manu out for so long, Pop is going to go heavy mad scientist with the role players. No need to burn out Timmy and Tony, when the roster seems so deep. I think of Tony/Cojo, Green, Kawhi, Diaw, Duncan/Splitter starting. Cojo/Beli/Anderson, Daye, Green, Baynes may not be "the bench" but i think it's a pretty nice go to squad for running out the regular season Timmy, Tony, Manu, Mills clock.

[Spur-Addict]

So you don't know. Thanks for clarifying.

:lol

[Andthentherewas21]

I'm counting Manu out for as long as Mills. Manu is so injury prone, it's hard for me to even factor him into regular season lineups at all. i kinda forgot about Diaw, Splitter, Timmy. I think with Mills and Manu out for so long, Pop is going to go heavy mad scientist with the role players.

Why would you count Manu out for so long? Yes he is a bit injury prone, but even with those injuries he has played in nearly 75% of games in every season except 08-09, even with Pop resting him over the past 3 years. Mills is slated to literally miss more than half the season (expected to return Feb.). Manu's stress fracture (discovered in June) should take anywhere from 6-8 weeks to a conservative estimate of 12-16 weeks to heal which would still make him available at the beginning of the season.

[DrSteffo]

Makes sense tbh.

[peacemaker885]

I see lots of rest for GOAT PUFF

[cd021]

I'm counting Manu out for as long as Mills. Manu is so injury prone, it's hard for me to even factor him into regular season lineups at all. i kinda forgot about Diaw, Splitter, Timmy. I think with Mills and Manu out for so long, Pop is going to go heavy mad scientist with the role players. No need to burn out Timmy and Tony, when the roster seems so deep. I think of Tony/Cojo, Green, Kawhi, Diaw, Duncan/Splitter starting. Cojo/Beli/Anderson, Daye, Green, Baynes may not be "the bench" but i think it's a pretty nice go to squad for running out the regular season Timmy, Tony, Manu, Mills clock.

Manu's was fairly healthy last season and played terrific basketball, so i'm not sure why you expecting him to break down this season, where he figures to play even fewer than the 24 mpg he played last season.

Cojo is still a bit unproven as an everynight rotation player. He looks good in some outings and poor in others. He doesn't fits nearly as well the bench of Manu, Beli, Diaw and who ever is trying to play center. He can't shoot and thats a problem, he also needs the ball in his hands to be most effective instead of spotting up.

I'm expecting Parker to be much more healthy this season and hopefully Mills is back sooner than February. Hopefully Cojo plays well in the minutes he is given u until then.

Im doubting Anderson will be a rotation player this season, baring Belinelli being moved (even though the Spurs would probably want to get an SF or PF in return)
If Splitter comes off the bench, then i could see him getting some burn at PF with Cojo Manu and Beli. Other than that, Beli is actually the backup SF, so he would have to earn minutes away from him.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Yessssss

[TD 21]

Ah, I would think of Ayers as being more of a PF.

It is his more natural position in the traditional sense (the same way Daye's is SF), but in today's game and particularly on this team, he's a C.

This is why he and Baynes are redundant and I'd prefer they not have one, though I always thought Baynes would be back.


He plays a bit of both. For his career, basketball reference has it at 53% C and 45% at PF. Last season it was 53% PF, & 43% C.

Not really. He played sparingly next to Splitter early, until they realized he couldn't shoot, at which point he was utilized almost exclusively at C, save for garbage time next to Baynes.

[Chinook]

Indy Ayres was a PF. If Jeff could shoot like that for the Spurs, he'd've been at worse the fourth big. As it is, he's just a slightly undersized center if he doesn't have range.

[wildbill2u]

You know Pop has a special role for everyone on the team and Baynes is a wide load in the paint when needed and has a pretty nice touch around the basket as well. Go for it Baynes. Second year with the Spurs is the proving ground for what you've learned.

[ChumpDumper]

Indy Ayres was a PF. If Jeff could shoot like that for the Spurs, he'd've been at worse the fourth big. As it is, he's just a slightly undersized center if he doesn't have range.I guess. He shot all of 35 times from outside the paint. I think its more like with Splitter; why wait around for the shots to start falling when he'll get 2/3 of the attempts inside?

[TD 21]

Indy Ayres was a PF. If Jeff could shoot like that for the Spurs, he'd've been at worse the fourth big. As it is, he's just a slightly undersized center if he doesn't have range.

He was more so a C, at least in his second season, because West and Hansbrough were entrenched at PF. Two seasons ago, he briefly overtook Mahinmi as their primary backup C late in the regular season, only to relinquish it at the start of the playoffs.

Even if he was the solid mid range shooter he was advertised as being, he'd have been/would be at best the fourth big. There's nothing he could have done/do to usurp Duncan, Splitter or Diaw.

[cd021]

It is his more natural position in the traditional sense (the same way Daye's is SF), but in today's game and particularly on this team, he's a C.

This is why he and Baynes are redundant and I'd prefer they not have one, though I always thought Baynes would be back.

Not really. He played sparingly next to Splitter early, until they realized he couldn't shoot, at which point he was utilized almost exclusively at C, save for garbage time next to Baynes.

I consider him a C with the Spurs. He played quite a few of his minutes with Diaw. He did start 10 games at PF (I think, all were with Duncan starting at C)

[z0sa]

excellent

[Mikeanaro]

JUST SIGN HIM! PAY HIM!!!
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/guyspeed.com/files/2012/03/Glass-Case-of-Emotion.gif

[Poolboy5623]

This is the best news of the offseason, for me..

[Chinook]

Even if he was the solid mid range shooter he was advertised as being, he'd have been/would be at best the fourth big. There's nothing he could have done/do to usurp Duncan, Splitter or Diaw.

If he were as good as advertised last summer, I think he would have been the starter next to Tim. The Spurs really struggled with spacing for the Tim/Tiago pairing at the beginning of last season. Having a big who was a knock-down shooter who was also big, strong and athletic would have been an ideal fit. Add in Ayres' passing abilities, and it's almost a shame that he hasn't worked out. I don't think he would have been the higher than the fourth-most important big, but I could definitely have seen him being higher on the depth chart.

[ismael-robert]

how do you know that? who are your contacts within the spurs front office?
I dont know if im misunderstanding but i think some common sense is missing here. Chump said spurs wont offer a guaranteed contract if read in context. You then asked how he knows. Wouldn't obvious answer have been because they have no more contracts to give out???

[spurraider21]

I dont know if im misunderstanding but i think some common sense is missing here. Chump said spurs wont offer a guaranteed contract if read in context. You then asked how he knows. Wouldn't obvious answer have been because they have no more contracts to give out???
they could theoretically waive/cut somebody. ayres is the candidate we're all cheering for. he'd get paid every penny but it would clear up a roster spot for somebody who could actually help us unlike errors. we also aren't in danger of hitting the luxury tax so it wouldn't be too crippling. its still unlikely

[ChumpDumper]

I'm glad you made a big deal out of my prediction since you agree with it.

[spurraider21]

I'm glad you made a big deal out of my prediction since you agree with it.
good to know i'm still in your thoughts. saying probably not is different than saying "it won't happen" though.

[ChumpDumper]

good to know i'm still in your thoughts.You can't stop talking about me.
saying probably not is different than saying "it won't happen" though.Eh, so I'm more secure in my prediction than you.

No big deal.

[spurraider21]

You can't stop talking about me.
nor you me. hours after we dropped it, you come right back to quote me.


Eh, so I'm more secure in my prediction than you.

No big deal.
i didn't make a prediction

[ChumpDumper]

nor you me. hours after we dropped it, you come right back to quote me.You were going on about me again.


i didn't make a predictionMan, you feel you have to back down from even that?

OK. Do what you have to.

[Chinook]

This thread is terrible.

[spurraider21]

You were going on about me again.

Man, you feel you have to back down from even that?

OK. Do what you have to.
on and on? i responded to one comment :lol... and you jumped in

what am i backing down from? i never made a prediction

[ChumpDumper]

on and on? i responded to one comment :lol... and you jumped in

what am i backing down from? i never made a predictionOK, if that's the story you want to go with.

[spurraider21]

OK, if that's the story you want to go with.
if you have an alternate explanation i'd love to hear it.

[spurraider21]

This thread is terrible.
my bad

[ChumpDumper]

if you have an alternate explanation i'd love to hear it.Neh. You already denied it. No point in gainsaying.

[Dex]

Get a room already, guys. Jesus Christ.

[Nero5]

yep, you are ruining threads.

[benefactor]

You guys leave Chump alone. He's working hard trying to get to that 100k.

[jyra]

515569585773215744

Almost twice the amount of the QO (1.1mil).

[Arc]

was about to post that. good stuff FO

[ChumpDumper]

515569585773215744

Almost twice the amount of the QO (1.1mil).Makes some sense. Overpay so they can make it a one year deal.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Must have had a decent, legit offer from over-seas. Good for him.

[jeebus]

You guys leave Chump alone. He's working hard trying to get to that 100k.
he's literally responding to anything and isn't even hiding the fact that he's blatantly spamming for 1:lol:lolk.

[spurraider21]

You guys leave Chump alone. He's working hard trying to get to that 100k.
i was helping him out for a bit, doing the lords work

[TheGreatYacht]

Do the Spurs still have the full MLE? Praying Spurs cut Errors and sign Jesus Shuttelsworth

[BatManu20]

Trade Ayers for a wing. Any wing will do.

[RD2191]

Trade Ayers for a wing. Any wing will do.
Lemon pepper or?

[DesignatedT]

:lol

[spurraider21]

Do the Spurs still have the full MLE? Praying Spurs cut Errors and sign Jesus Shuttelsworth
it wouldn't take the full MLE or anything near it to sign Allen. i still don't think its worth it to bring him aboard. who's minutes will he cut into?

[anakha]

Lemon pepper or?

Korean-style.

[SupremeGuy]

515569585773215744

Almost twice the amount of the QO (1.1mil).Damn, the Big Banger got that Errors money! :wow

[Cklbmk]

This thread is terrible.


More like those 2 posters are terrible

[ElNono]

515569585773215744

Almost twice the amount of the QO (1.1mil).

Worth every penny

[DesignatedT]

Nice. I think he will have a big year for us also. A lot of resting coming up for Tim, Tiago and Boris.

[intlspurshk]

2.1 seems a bit high. Do the SPURS overpay to keep cap flexibility for next season? Can SPURS keep him restricted after this season?

[SupremeGuy]

2.1 seems a bit high. Do the SPURS overpay to keep cap flexibility for next season? Can SPURS keep him restricted after this season?Yes and Yes, I think.

[ace3g]

Jabari Young @jabari_young
(https://twitter.com/jabari_young)Express-News 1-on-1 with Aron Baynes..talks contract and why the deal took so long #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs) blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/20… (http://t.co/JcNNRszMvp) pic.twitter.com/Nq65WJL4Oa (http://t.co/Nq65WJL4Oa)

[spurraider21]

I don't think he can be restricted after this

[spurraider21]

The amount is inconsequential except to Holts pockets. Our cap situation is exactly what it was before the signing

[Chinook]

The only issue is that Baynes' QO next year will be rather large. The Spurs may not even tender him if he doesn't agree to a new deal.

[heyheymymy]

Makes some sense. Overpay so they can make it a one year deal.


can you explain a bit more how the rules work on this? Or the logic behind this?

[spurraider21]

The only issue is that Baynes' QO next year will be rather large. The Spurs may not even tender him if he doesn't agree to a new deal.
He's going to be restricted again? Didn't know that

[Chinook]

He's going to be restricted again? Didn't know that

Pretty much the reason why they gave him a one-year deal. But his QO will be at least twice the size it was this season, since it's based on a percentage of the previous salary.

[spurraider21]

It'll be in the ballpark of 2.625. If they wanted him back for 2.1, and his role is expected to increase, it's not so bad

[Chinook]

Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.

[spurraider21]

Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.
Or they could renounce him but still value him more than other teams

[SupremeGuy]

Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.I think he makes a mark for himself, tbh. All he needs is the opportunity.

[ChumpDumper]

can you explain a bit more how the rules work on this? Or the logic behind this?Rather than pay him a lower amount for two years, he was paid more for one. It keeps Aron happy with signing a one year deal and gives the Spurs the maximum possible cap space if they choose to renounce his rights next summer.

[jeebus]

Baynes' QO should be around $2.7 Million for next year, and his cap hold will be nearly $4 Million. If he doesn't distinguish himself as a rotation player this season, I don't see the team keeping him.
if he plays half as good as he did in the world's, he'll get resigned. just as long as Pop's ridiculous love affair with Errors doesn't go overboard like last season, Baynes should get steady playing time and a chance to prove himself.

[Mikeanaro]

Great! now we have the same team and some monetary motivation.
GO BACK TO THE GYM BAYNES! TIME TO USE PUNCHING BALLS AND WORK ON YOUR PILEDRIVERS!
I would kill to see dwert getting piledrived.

[ace3g]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
(https://twitter.com/EricPincus)FWIW Aron Baynes can block a trade this season - San Antonio Spurs @BBallInsiders (https://twitter.com/BBallInsiders/)

[spurraider21]

so barring any cuts we know who our 15 man roster will be... the question will be who the two in-actives will be. obviously for first handful of months Mills will be one. candidates are Anderson, Daye, Ayres, Baynes, Bonner... since they actually went out and re-signed Baynes for more than the QO it tells me they actually want him on the game-day roster though

[Mel_13]

The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.

[Chinook]

The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.

He had early Bird rights. No need for another exception, right?

[ChumpDumper]

The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.They don't have early Bird rights?

Is there an initial signing date he missed that first season?

[Mel_13]

He had early Bird rights. No need for another exception, right?

Early Bird contracts have to be for at least two years.

[spurraider21]

The BAE for this season is 2.077M. The Spurs had to use the BAE or a portion of the MLE to sign Baynes. Using a part of the MLE seems more likely in order to retain the BAE for next season.


Early Bird contracts have to be for at least two years.
hmm, bi annual seems to make sense. rounded up it comes out to the reported 2.1

[Chinook]

Even stranger then that the team didn't tack on some type of option year.

[spurraider21]

Even stranger then that the team didn't tack on some type of option year.
had they given an option year then declined it, would he be restricted?

[Chinook]

had they given an option year then declined it, would he be restricted?

Yes. Would be a Parsons situation.

[Mel_13]

had they given an option year then declined it, would he be restricted?

No. It appears that they value flexibility next summer over keeping the full MLE intact for the rest of the current season.

Edit: Chinook is right.

[cd021]

so barring any cuts we know who our 15 man roster will be... the question will be who the two in-actives will be. obviously for first handful of months Mills will be one. candidates are Anderson, Daye, Ayres, Baynes, Bonner... since they actually went out and re-signed Baynes for more than the QO it tells me they actually want him on the game-day roster though

Training camp, and the per-season should sort that out. Whether Daye or Anderson fill the "combo" forward spot or Ayers or Baynes will fill the backup C spot.

[spurraider21]

Yes. Would be a Parsons situation.


No. It appears that they value flexibility next summer over keeping the full MLE intact for the rest of the current season.

Edit: Chinook is right.
:tu thanks guys

i don't think the MLE matters for this season, our roster is already saturated

[Chinook]

so barring any cuts we know who our 15 man roster will be... the question will be who the two in-actives will be. obviously for first handful of months Mills will be one. candidates are Anderson, Daye, Ayres, Baynes, Bonner... since they actually went out and re-signed Baynes for more than the QO it tells me they actually want him on the game-day roster though

Anderson is the easy choice once the d-league season starts. But at the same time, the Spurs need ball-handlers. Right now, Manu would be the third PG, and he's not the most durable player out there. Having Anderson active would make a lot of sense, though not as much as bringing in a real third PG would.

[Chinook]

No. It appears that they value flexibility next summer over keeping the full MLE intact for the rest of the current season.

Edit: Chinook is right.

Also, by using the MLE, the Spurs are not hard-capped for this season like they would be if they used the LLE. Not that they'll get anywhere near the apron in all likelihood, but you never know.

[spurraider21]

Anderson is the easy choice once the d-league season starts. But at the same time, the Spurs need ball-handlers. Right now, Manu would be the third PG, and he's not the most durable player out there. Having Anderson active would make a lot of sense, though not as much as bringing in a real third PG would.
right, but who would get cut to make that happen?

unless you are merely suggesting we should already have signed one

[Chinook]

right, but who would get cut to make that happen?

unless you are merely suggesting we should already have signed one

I think the Spurs SHOULD look to empty at least one roster spot that they could use on a PG (Cotton in all likelihood). But since they won't do that unless someone else gets hurt, I think it makes sense to keep Anderson on the big roster just in case they need a handler if someone gets hurt in-game. Right now, it's Parker, Joseph and Manu. That's crazy thin, especially for the Spurs.

[Mel_13]

The one year deal then looks to be a compromise. Baynes would have almost certainly preferred two guaranteed years and the Spurs would have liked one year plus an option.

The other possibility is that one plus an option doesn't meet the requirements of the Early Bird Exception as it could be seen as circumventing its provisions.

[spurraider21]

The one year deal then looks to be a compromise. Baynes would have almost certainly preferred two guaranteed years and the Spurs would have liked one year plus an option.

The other possibility is that one plus an option doesn't meet the requirements of the Early Bird Exception as it could be seen as circumventing its provisions.
i think it works out well. he gets a 1 year deal and then he's either going to be a UFA or his RFA tender will get him a pretty solid number anyway

[Mikeanaro]

I think the Spurs SHOULD look to empty at least one roster spot that they could use on a PG (Cotton in all likelihood). But since they won't do that unless someone else gets hurt, I think it makes sense to keep Anderson on the big roster just in case they need a handler if someone gets hurt in-game. Right now, it's Parker, Joseph and Manu. That's crazy thin, especially for the Spurs.
Yeah, but thats better than having 5 point guards/combo guards like they had in those dreadful years (my opinion).

[heyheymymy]

Rather than pay him a lower amount for two years, he was paid more for one. It keeps Aron happy with signing a one year deal and gives the Spurs the maximum possible cap space if they choose to renounce his rights next summer.


:tu the goods, thanks for the reply

[Mel_13]

i think it works out well. he gets a 1 year deal and then he's either going to be a UFA or his RFA tender will get him a pretty solid number anyway

It does take of business for this year and preserves options going into next summer.

[littlecoyotecoin]

hmm, bi annual seems to make sense. rounded up it comes out to the reported 2.1

No, you're missing a place value.

[Chinook]

Yeah, but thats better than having 5 point guards/combo guards like they had in those dreadful years (my opinion).

Eh. I get where you're coming from. But I think in today's NBA, you can get away with having a lot of PGs. That's especially true if at least one's a big PG like De Colo was. I don't think there will ever be a use for four "true" centers outside of injury. The days of a guy like Duncan getting away with playing minutes at SF are over.

[Chinook]

The one year deal then looks to be a compromise. Baynes would have almost certainly preferred two guaranteed years and the Spurs would have liked one year plus an option.

The other possibility is that one plus an option doesn't meet the requirements of the Early Bird Exception as it could be seen as circumventing its provisions.

Well, I think that no matter how the Spurs had to go about categorizing the Baynes signing, a one-plus-one deal would have made the most sense for them. They could have done that with the LLE as well. But I agree that that wasn't what Baynes wanted. But the Spurs gave him the APY he wanted, so I think he should have been able to meet them halfway on that.

It would have been interesting if teams and players started to agreeing to "mutual options" kind of like they have in baseball. Give a player a PO for a non-guaranteed year (with a guarantee date almost immediately after the option deadline). That would give maximum flexibility for both sides.

[littlecoyotecoin]

No, you're missing a place value.

I like scotch.

[Mikeanaro]

Eh. I get where you're coming from. But I think in today's NBA, you can get away with having a lot of PGs. That's especially true if at least one's a big PG like De Colo was. I don't think there will ever be a use for four "true" centers outside of injury. The days of a guy like Duncan getting away with playing minutes at SF are over.
Yeah, I think when they want to, every Spur is a PG (like the Finals) so they will take it easy some months but if they want to repeat this season the overall seed is the big fundamental I almost can see Cleveland overhyped and overhelped getting a free 1st seed in the East.

[spurraider21]

No, you're missing a place value.
2.077 can be rounded to 2.1

i dont care for sig figs in this sort of setting

[Chinook]

sig figs

Those made me hate the first couple of weeks of chemistry.

[Mel_13]

Well, I think that no matter how the Spurs had to go about categorizing the Baynes signing, a one-plus-one deal would have made the most sense for them. They could have done that with the LLE as well. But I agree that that wasn't what Baynes wanted. But the Spurs gave him the APY he wanted, so I think he should have been able to meet them halfway on that.

Maybe the APY was never an issue. We'll probably never know what the initial offers were from each side on July 1st.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Those made me hate the first couple of weeks of chemistry.

I said something stupid. I wasn't paying attention, and was thinking what Mel or Chinook said earlier that they would want to keep the BAE in tact, so it wouldn't be true, but it was.

Don't worry, you're in good company, several chemistry Phds don't understand them very well, either. Or, have long since forgotten them by the time they're asked to teach them.

[Chinook]

Maybe the APY was never an issue. We'll probably never know what the initial offers were from each side on July 1st.

I had actually assumed the bold was true initially. The Spurs had the money to spare because their stars took less. It wouldn't make sense to lose a player they wanted over such a small amount. Regardless, the Spurs came up from the QO even though we have no reason to think they needed to. Even if they were happy to do that, it was still a concession on their part.

We also have no idea who wanted how long. Maybe it was Baynes who wanted a prove-it deal while the Spurs wanted to lock in a cheap center for 2015.

I think when it comes down to it, many of us read drama into the situation that simply wasn't there. It seems like the two sides had a contract worked out, and Baynes just wanted to see if he could get a better deal than SA was giving him. He couldn't, so he came back. Both sides did their due diligence. I doubt there's much bad blood between the two parties.

[ElNono]

Right now, it's Parker, Joseph and Manu. That's crazy thin, especially for the Spurs.

Bellineli is going to play backup PG minutes while Patty is out. You don't have to like it or agree with it, you just get to sit back and say 'damn you Nono'. Just watch :lol

[littlecoyotecoin]

I had actually assumed the bold was true initially. The Spurs had the money to spare because their stars took less. It wouldn't make sense to lose a player they wanted over such a small amount. Regardless, the Spurs came up from the QO even though we have no reason to think they needed to. Even if they were happy to do that, it was still a concession on their part.

We also have no idea who wanted how long. Maybe it was Baynes who wanted a prove-it deal while the Spurs wanted to lock in a cheap center for 2015.

I think when it comes down to it, many of us read drama into the situation that simply wasn't there. It seems like the two sides had a contract worked out, and Baynes just wanted to see if he could get a better deal than SA was giving him. He couldn't, so he came back. Both sides did their due diligence. I doubt there's much bad blood between the two parties.

Buenas, Nono. When did they get internet in Argentina? Anyway, I think Baynes admits he wanted more than a one year deal in the Jabari Paker interview with Baynes, today. That link is floating around here somewhere.

[spurraider21]

Bellineli is going to play backup PG minutes while Patty is out. You don't have to like it or agree with it, you just get to sit back and say 'damn you Nono'. Just watch :lol
or Pop will stop holding Duncan back :downspin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbc6HE_S-ck


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NYqlwqjU1o

[ElNono]

Buenas, Nono. When did they get internet in Argentina? Anyway, I think Baynes admits he wanted more than a one year deal in the Jabari Paker interview with Baynes, today. That link is floating around here somewhere.

I posted that 8 hours ago, tbh...

[Big P]

Eric Pincus ✔ EricPincus

Though told Baynes signed via MLE - Spurs shoul have had Early Bird Rights - may not have needed to use exception at all - looking into it

[Chinook]

Eric Pincus ✔ Eric (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1419)Pincus

Though told Baynes signed via MLE - Spurs shoul have had Early Bird Rights - may not have needed to use exception at all - looking into it

P, if you're actually wondering about what Pincus wrote, we answered that question up top. Glad to know I wasn't the only one wondering.

And kudos to Mel_13 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6168) for calling the MLE. It definitely makes the most sense. The Spurs still have more than $3 Million to spend if they see a free agent or European buyout they want to pursue.

[elemento]

Glad he is back and happy that this novel is over !

[littlecoyotecoin]

I posted that 8 hours ago, tbh...

Even better! But, then why you think it inconclusive he didn't want more years and Spurs want one? He is questioned about that in video and seems to answer that it was the case.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

Jeebus: Your signature is not only offensive, it's also pathetic you ignorant fuck.

[benefactor]

Jeebus: Your signature is not only offensive, it's also pathetic you ignorant fuck.
Just turn sigs off. I haven't had them turned on in years.

[jeebus]

Jeebus: Your signature is not only offensive, it's also pathetic you ignorant fuck.

:lol

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol

what is it, i can't see it for some reason

[jeebus]

what is it, i can't see it for some reason

aww, it got deleted. I don't have the pic handy but it was a candid shot of michael brown's funeral.

[heyheymymy]

aww, it got deleted. I don't have the pic handy but it was a candid shot of michael brown's funeral.
cmon man be civil

[spurraider21]

aww, it got deleted. I don't have the pic handy but it was a candid shot of michael brown's funeral.
Wasn't Zimmerman your avatar for a while?

[SupremeGuy]

aww, it got deleted. I don't have the pic handy but it was a candid shot of michael brown's funeral.I wanna see. :( Please don't Message it to me.

[TD 21]

If he were as good as advertised last summer, I think he would have been the starter next to Tim. The Spurs really struggled with spacing for the Tim/Tiago pairing at the beginning of last season. Having a big who was a knock-down shooter who was also big, strong and athletic would have been an ideal fit. Add in Ayres' passing abilities, and it's almost a shame that he hasn't worked out. I don't think he would have been the higher than the fourth-most important big, but I could definitely have seen him being higher on the depth chart.

I can't imagine it. For myriad reasons, you'll see teams start their third best big or wing, but not fourth.

It's stretching it to say Ayres was supposed to be a knock-down shooter. Solid, is more like it. Ideally, I suspect what they were hoping for was, for him to serve as both the backup C next to Diaw as well as eat up some PF minutes next to Splitter, so that Diaw didn't have to play as long of stretches and so that more of his minutes came next to Duncan.

[jeebus]

Wasn't Zimmerman your avatar for a while?

yes it was. the local black panther crew on the boards were butthurt about that one

[spurraider21]

yes it was. the local black panther crew on the boards were butthurt about that one
http://i.imgur.com/k4omNCD.gif

[ElNono]

Even better! But, then why you think it inconclusive he didn't want more years and Spurs want one? He is questioned about that in video and seems to answer that it was the case.

Haven't watched any video about Baynes, so I'll take your word for it. Frankly, I don't care anymore. I'm glad he's back.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Haven't watched any video about Baynes, so I'll take your word for it. Frankly, I don't care anymore. I'm glad he's back.

Yes. For what it cost, I think the majority, if not unanimously, feel the same way. He brings a little extra dynamic Ayres can't. Enjoy the food, and have a good return flight.

[ElNono]

Yes. For what it cost, I think the majority, if not unanimously, feel the same way. He brings a little extra dynamic Ayres can't. Enjoy the food, and have a good return flight.

:toast

[tim_duncan_fan]

Some of yall really need to get over the little dick/cuckold thing.

Honestly.