Source: Earl Watson to retire to join Spurs' D-League coaching staff

[Steve-O-Matic]

CLEVELAND, Ohio – After 13 years, point guard Earl Watson will retire from the NBA to accept a coaching position with the San Antonio Spurs' NBA Development League affiliate, the Austin Toros, a league source informed Northeast Ohio Media Group.

The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team has yet to make an official announcement.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2014/09/source_earl_watson_to_retire_t.html

[illusioNtEk]

he made it thru the door in the great Spurs Organization.... good backup if we need him down the road

[baseline bum]

Never seen another dude who could throw alley-oop passes from halfcourt 2-3 games a game like he did at UCLA.

[Mel_13]

That's how you get an emergency PG without using a roster spot.

[Chinook]

That's how you get an emergency PG without using a roster spot.

Not to mention getting a guy who can coach up Cotton.

[superbigtime]

brilliant!

[lefty]

I dig

[littlecoyotecoin]

That's how you get an emergency PG without using a roster spot.

Yeah. Pretty creative.

[ace3g]

Looks like he was at the scrimmage last night:

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/826f4dc210dd7039a723c020235d621cc4133932/c=9-0-4608-3456&r=x1443&c=1920x1440/local/-/media/KENS/None/2014/10/01/1412215097001-BKN-Spurs-fan-Patsy-Wingfield-shows-off-her-sign-at-the-scrimmage.jpg

[SpurPadre]

Why couldn't we get him on the Spurs' staff and get Hammon to the toros staff instead?

[anakha]

Why couldn't we get him on the Spurs' staff and get Hammon to the toros staff instead?

Because he has no track record with the Spurs coaching staff and Hammon does?

[SpurPadre]

Because he has no track record with the Spurs coaching staff and Hammon does?

But he has an NBA track record and track record of playing with professional male athletes while Hammon doesn't?

[Chinook]

^ Damn. Is it going to start again?

[SpurPadre]

^ Damn. Is it going to start again?

Ok, I know it's spilled milk and we have no choice but to hope it works out but I'm making fair points here.

[anakha]

Ok, I know it's spilled milk and we have no choice but to hope it works out but I'm making fair points here.

But the coaching staff made the call. And they made the call based on Hammon having a track record with them.

Prior to this decision, Watson has had no prior track record with the Spurs.

That's pretty much what it is.

[SpurPadre]

But the coaching staff made the call. And they made the call based on Hammon having a track record with them.

Prior to this decision, Watson has had no prior track record with the Spurs.

That's pretty much what it is.

Fair enough. In Pop, I must trust, especially with the Messina hire.

[anakha]

Fair enough. In Pop, I must trust, especially with the Messina hire.

Pop/RC tend to make their hires after they've established relationships with the people in question.

Now it could be the case that they've known Watson for a while, but without evidence of that, we'll have to assume that whatever relationship they have is a recently-made one. And based on what we know of their behavior, they're not prone to rocking the boat.

[SpurPadre]

Pop/RC tend to make their hires after they've established relationships with the people in question.

Now it could be the case that they've known Watson for a while, but without evidence of that, we'll have to assume that whatever relationship they have is a recently-made one. And based on what we know of their behavior, they're not prone to rocking the boat.

Yeah but how do we explain the Boylen hire from last year?

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, I know it's spilled milk and we have no choice but to hope it works out but I'm making fair points here.Not sure if you are. Watson waited until September to decide whether he was going to retire or not. That's well after the time to be hiring NBA assistant coached.

[FromWayDowntown]

Any boy basketball player would be a better coach than a girl basketball player.

Just to say it out loud: Hammon has more experience coaching men at this point than Watson does. And I note that as someone who really liked Earl's toughness, intelligence, and tenacity as a player and really likes seeing him get an opportunity with the Spurs. But trying to make this an Earl vs. Becky issue is pretty ridiculous. Becky earned her way to this job and people should really just stop making any sort of deal out of the fact that she doesn't have a Y chromosome.

[anakha]

Yeah but how do we explain the Boylen hire from last year?

I'll have to do some digging, but I do recall reading that Pop and Boylen had known each other for a while prior to the hire.

[SpurPadre]

Not sure if you are. Watson waited until September to decide whether he was going to retire or not. That's well after the time to be hiring NBA assistant coached.

Points about Hammon in that she has zero NBA experience, zero experience working with pro male athletes and just wondering why PATFO rushed to hire her instead of just waiting for a guy like Watson to take the spot instead? I mean, with the Messina signing and coming off a Championship with world-weary players back again, would it have killed us to wait until September for another assistant coach hire? But I'll leave it at that and hope Hammon proves me wrong, and can avoid TP's sexual advances.

[ChumpDumper]

Points about Hammon in that she has zero NBA experience, zero experience working with pro male athletes and just wondering why PATFO rushed to hire her instead of just waiting for a guy like Watson to take the spot instead?You are plainly misinformed.

Get informed and then try to complain some more.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'll have to do some digging, but I do recall reading that Pop and Boylen had known each other for a while prior to the hire.

Boylen has a very long track record as an assistant with very good teams -- he has two rings from his time with the Rockets (meaning he's been at this for a long time). He also was a collegiate head coach (at Utah) and spent several years on Izzo's staff at MSU. All of that would make him very easy to vet through trusted sources who'd spent time with Boylen in the past. To say nothing of the distinct possibility that Boylen and Pop might have had an existing relationship after each having been in the league that long.

[SpurPadre]

Any boy basketball player would be a better coach than a girl basketball player.

Just to say it out loud: Hammon has more experience coaching men at this point than Watson does. And I note that as someone who really liked Earl's toughness, intelligence, and tenacity as a player and really likes seeing him get an opportunity with the Spurs. But trying to make this an Earl vs. Becky issue is pretty ridiculous. Becky earned her way to this job and people should really just stop making any sort of deal out of the fact that she doesn't have a Y chromosome.

False equivalency with the blue font line. If you understood my posts correctly, you'd know I wasn't making that point.

[SpurPadre]

You are plainly misinformed.

Get informed and then try to complain some more.

So Hammon has NBA experience? Enlighten me please instead of cheap insults.

[FromWayDowntown]

Points about Hammon in that she has zero NBA experience, zero experience working with pro male athletes

You mean other than last year with the Spurs when she was around an NbA coaching staff for most of the season and worked with pro male athletes?

[SpurPadre]

You are plainly misinformed.

Get informed and then try to complain some more.

And why don't you quote the part where I'm willing to let this work out?

[ChumpDumper]

So Hammon has NBA experience? Enlighten me please instead of cheap insults.I am not responsible for your ignorance.

You do something about it yourself.

[SpurPadre]

You mean other than last year with the Spurs when she was around an NbA coaching staff for most of the season and worked with pro male athletes?

Will she get a ring for her contributions? No.

[ChumpDumper]

And why don't you quote the part where I'm willing to let this work out?Your initial whining negates that.

[ChumpDumper]

Will she get a ring for her contributions? No.lol

Goalposts: moved

[SpurPadre]

I am not responsible for your ignorance.

You do something about it yourself.

She has no official NBA job until her addition this past summer. But I'll continue to be civil while you continue to be an internet tough guy.

[anakha]

Will she get a ring for her contributions? No.

Whether she gets a ring or not is irrelevant. The fact remains that she did put her time in last season, in a manner that has been recognized by players and coaches alike. That's irrefutable.

[FromWayDowntown]

Will she get a ring for her contributions? No.

What difference does that make? You are complaining that she lacks experience. She clearly had gained experience, last year with an elite team and a well-respected coaching staff, no matter whether she also got jewelry in the process. You criticize the hire saying she's never worked with pro male althletes, but the pro male athletes who play for the NBA champions worked with her last year, seem to universally respect her in that capacity, and welcomed her hire. But what could they possibly know about it. No rings, no credibility I guess.

[ChumpDumper]

She has no official NBA job until her addition this past summer. But I'll continue to be civil while you continue to be an internet tough guy.Nothing tough about pointing out your ignorance and goalpost moving.

You completely mischaracterized her experience from the start.

Why?

You were either being ignorant of disingenuous.

I suspect you started out ignorant then went straight to disingenuous in order to defend the initial ignorance.

[FromWayDowntown]

You can dislike her hiring if that's your choice, but don't try to defend that position with counterfactual justifications and expect that you won't get blowback from those who don't hold your opinion.

[SpurPadre]

It's funny that I was willing to drop my initial observations and wish Hammon success but there's simply no room for a counterpoint here, I guess.

[100%duncan]

SpurPadre point is Becky was with the team albeit unofficially since last year. So saying she has no experience with the NBA is quite unfair since she worked for her job right now through 1 whole season. And what does Watson bring to the table that Becky can't, except a 8===D? It's not like our pg's/players need more input on how to play the game, we've got enough of that. Becky's signing is still rather a mystery though since we don't know what will be her main role in the team, I'll give that to you.

[ChumpDumper]

It's funny that I was willing to drop my initial observations and wish Hammon success but there's simply no room for a counterpoint here, I guess.O woe is you.

I don't mind a counterpoint if there is any logic at all behind it. Your attempt was sorely lacking.

[anakha]

It's not like our pg's/players need more input on how to play the game, we've got enough of that.

Not necessarily. Pop has gone on record about the different perspectives Messina and Hammon would bring respectively into the coaching staff. That means he's open to new inputs and is willing to consider their suggestions.

No matter how good the coach/team is, there's always potential ways to keep improving. As good as Pop is, it's a very dangerous mentality to think that there aren't any further ways of getting the team to improve out there.


It's funny that I was willing to drop my initial observations and wish Hammon success but there's simply no room for a counterpoint here, I guess.

It's not that there aren't counterpoints to the Hammon hiring - it's that the counterpoint of having no NBA experience doesn't apply to this particular situation.

[ColinB]

SpurPadre not trying to hide his misogynistic views.

[TE]

But he has an NBA track record and track record of playing with professional male athletes while Hammon doesn't?
I don't mean to pile on the political/social correctedness but this just an asinine remark. Hammon has tons of experience leading her teams on every level. Also, factor in the work she put in with the Spurs and her familiarity with the team and it seems like a perfect fit.


Also, just because someone is a female doesn't disqualify them from an opportunity to coach either gender. Basketball is the same on every level in terms of fundamentals and schemes.

[100%duncan]

Not necessarily. Pop has gone on record about the different perspectives Messina and Hammon would bring respectively into the coaching staff. That means he's open to new inputs and is willing to consider their suggestions.

No matter how good the coach/team is, there's always potential ways to keep improving. As good as Pop is, it's a very dangerous mentality to think that there aren't any further ways of getting the team to improve out there.

That's actually my point meaning that we really didn't/don't need Watson with our current coaching staff right now esp how it improved with one of the best coaches in Europe and a great WNBA player.

[100%duncan]

Also, Ettore has no NBA experience too right? While Becky already has. So does that mean we should hire Watson over both? Yep.

[SpurPadre]

Not necessarily. Pop has gone on record about the different perspectives Messina and Hammon would bring respectively into the coaching staff. That means he's open to new inputs and is willing to consider their suggestions.

No matter how good the coach/team is, there's always potential ways to keep improving. As good as Pop is, it's a very dangerous mentality to think that there aren't any further ways of getting the team to improve out there.



It's not that there aren't counterpoints to the Hammon hiring - it's that the counterpoint of having no NBA experience doesn't apply to this particular situation.

But aren't you guys stretching and over-emphasizing what role she played this past season to the team? If her contributions were so invaluable, she would've been at the Riverwalk and Alamodome celebration but she wasn't nor were her contributions mentioned among the speeches. And her current role carries a bigger responsibility, much bigger responsibility. I'm amongst you all hoping she pans out.

[SpurPadre]

Also, Ettore has no NBA experience too right? While Becky already has. So does that mean we should hire Watson over both? Yep.

He has pro male athlete experience and more importantly, experience with Manu.

[100%duncan]

He has pro male athlete experience and more importantly, experience with Manu.

Yes but you said Becky didn't have nba experience. Just playing your game.

[anakha]

That's actually my point meaning that we really didn't/don't need Watson with our current coaching staff right now esp how it improved with one of the best coaches in Europe and a great WNBA player.

Ah, noted.

In my defense, the original statement could be interpreted in several ways. :p:

[SpurPadre]

I don't mean to pile on the political/social correctedness but this just an asinine remark. Hammon has tons of experience leading her teams on every level. Also, factor in the work she put in with the Spurs and her familiarity with the team and it seems like a perfect fit.


Also, just because someone is a female doesn't disqualify them from an opportunity to coach either gender. Basketball is the same on every level in terms of fundamentals and schemes.

Smh. Never said she had no experience at any level. Come on, now.

[ChumpDumper]

http://forums-cdn.appleinsider.com/e/e0/e0d382a0_1slj61.gif

[100%duncan]

Ah, noted.

In my defense, the original statement could be interpreted in several ways. :p:

:bobo

[SpurPadre]

Yes but you said Becky didn't have nba experience. Just playing your game.

You're not playing the game right. That wasn't the only qualification I was holding against her.

[TE]

Smh. Never said she had no experience at any level. Come on, now.
No shit, that's the point. It makes your statements look stupid. In fact, I'd argue that Hammon is more qualified to coach on the bench than Watson.

[100%duncan]

You're not playing the game right. That wasn't the only qualification I was holding against her.

Rules please?

[SpurPadre]

No shit, that's the point. It makes your statements look stupid. In fact, I'd argue that Hammon is more qualified to coach on the bench than Watson.

Ok, how is she more qualified than Watson in terms of the NBA? I'd definitely hire her over him for a WNBA gig.

[BatManu20]

Like this move. He'll be a Spurs assistant at some point in the future.

[anakha]

But aren't you guys stretching and over-emphasizing what role she played this past season to the team?

Just to be clear, I haven't nor will speculate on how valuable her contributions were. My points were that a) she put in her time the previous season, and b) the coaches' and players' feedback on her time is well-documented.

That is enough evidence to counter any arguments that she has no NBA experience.


If her contributions were so invaluable, she would've been at the Riverwalk and Alamodome celebration but she wasn't nor were her contributions mentioned among the speeches.

That's an unfair statement to make considering she was still an active player and the WNBA season was going on during that time.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, how is she more qualified than Watson in terms of the NBA?Doesn't matter. She applied on time. He didn't.
I'd definitely hire her over him for a WNBA gig.Why?

[BatManu20]

517734934245806083

[ChumpDumper]

If her contributions were so invaluable, she would've been at the Riverwalk and Alamodome celebrationlol she was playing for the Stars in Seattle.

[TE]

Ok, how is she more qualified than Watson in terms of the NBA? I'd definitely hire her over him for a WNBA gig.
Basketball is basketball. Hammon knows the game well having played on all levels, college, pro and olympics. She is the floor leader when she steps onto the court. If you ever bothered watching a WNBA game, you'll see sets and schemes being run just like in a NBA game...She's been immersed into many schemes and her basketball knowledge is pretty good I'd bet...better and more in depth than Watson, imo. The only difference between both games is obviously athleticism. Everything is more or less similar to the game we love to watch.

[SpurPadre]

Doesn't matter. she applied on time.Why?

Why? Are you serious or are you still being a smart ass?

[ChumpDumper]

Why? Are you serious or are you still being a smart ass?Serious.

Why?

[SpurPadre]

lol she was playing for the Stars in Seattle.

Lol, then why weren't her incredibly invaluable contributions mentioned by anyone during the speeches?

[anakha]

:bobo

The best addition to this forum since the Spork thread. :bobo

[FromWayDowntown]

While she rehabbed her knee, Hammon spent the 2013-14 season as a coaching intern with the Spurs as they won their fifth title. She attended coaches’ meetings and film sessions, gave instruction at practices and sat behind the bench during home games. When Popovich asked her opinion, she did not hesitate to give it. And in a subtle manner that he found effective and appealing.


"She wants to coach after she's done," Popovich said. "Because she's not just a good player but a smart player, a great person in our community, just somebody that we all respect so much, we gave her the opportunity to sit with us during the year. She came to our coaches' meetings, argued with us. She did everything. She's been wonderful."

Still not the right kind of experience, or enough of it, to justify hiring her instead of a dude, I'm guessing.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, then why weren't her incredibly invaluable contributions mentioned by anyone during the speeches?Why is this a requirement for being hired by a team one has already worked for?

Please explain your logic here.

[anakha]

Lol, then why weren't her incredibly invaluable contributions mentioned by anyone during the speeches?

Was Forcier mentioned by name? What about Udoka? What about Boylen? What about Engelland?

This is a logically shaky argument you're making. You'll need to show proof that the other coaches were mentioned by name in the speeches if you're going to go down this path.

[ChumpDumper]

Was Forcier mentioned by name? What about Udoka? What about Boylen?

This is a logically shaky argument you're making. You'll need to show proof that the other coaches were mentioned by name in the speeches if you're going to go down this path.Anyone not mentioned by name in the speeches should be fired.

It's only logical.

[TE]

Anyone not mentioned by name in the speeches should be fired.

It's only logical.
lmao

[SpurPadre]

Serious.

Why?

Ok, I'll bite. Hammon has more of an understanding the speed that's played at the WNBA. She knows the athletic restrictions a female basketball player has and what they use to compensate for those restrictions. She knows tendencies certain players have having played with and against them. Watson can watch all the video in the world of the WNBA but it can't replace the in-game experience of the WNBA game that Hammon has over him.

[FromWayDowntown]

It's a well established fact that a principal qualification for getting that first NBA coaching gig is to have already been lauded for your contributions to a championship team in a public celebration.

[anakha]

Anyone not mentioned by name in the speeches should be fired.

It's only logical.

The scouts, analytics guys, and video coordinators would be shitting their pants at this. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Ok, I'll bite. Hammon has more of an understanding the speed that's played at the WNBA. She knows the athletic restrictions a female basketball player has and what they use to compensate for those restrictions. She knows tendencies certain players have having played with and against them. Watson can watch all the video in the world of the WNBA but it can't replace the in-game experience of the WNBA game that Hammon has over him.You are really hung up on gonads tbh.

So Dan Hughes should never have gotten his job.

[SpurPadre]

Was Forcier mentioned by name? What about Udoka? What about Boylen? What about Engelland?

This is a logically shaky argument you're making. You'll need to show proof that the other coaches were mentioned by name in the speeches if you're going to go down this path.

Actually, yes they were mentioned. And those men were there. Did you get to watch the celebration at the Alamodome?

[TE]

Oh gawd.

[FromWayDowntown]

Popovich never played in the NBA. How can he possibly evaluate the strengths and tendencies of NBA players?

[ChumpDumper]

Popovich never played in the NBA. How can he possibly evaluate the strengths and tendencies of NBA players?Pop can watch all the video in the world of the NBA but it can't replace the in-game experience of the NBA game that Kevin McHale has over him.

[anakha]

Actually, yes they were mentioned. And those men were there. Did you get to watch the celebration at the Alamodome?

As mentioned, kindly provide the proof.

And the argument against Hammon not being there there was already made above.

[FromWayDowntown]

Pop can watch all the video in the world of the NBA but it can't replace the in-game experience of the NBA game that Kevin McHale has over him.

0-4 in 2013-14, tbh

[TE]

Pop can watch all the video in the world of the NBA but it can't replace the in-game experience of the NBA game that Kevin McHale has over him.
:lmao

[SpurPadre]

Still not the right kind of experience, or enough of it, to justify hiring her instead of a dude, I'm guessing.

So being an intern automatically qualifies as experience for a given position. Lol, Ok, like I said, in Pop I trust but at this point you guys are piling on just to pile on.

[RD2191]

She may be qualified but I doubt she will ever be more than an assistant in the NBA. Coaching men is very different than coaching women. Sure women are emotional too but can you imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if a player got into it with her? Hell D Wade wanted to punch out Spoelstra. I just don't think she has much of a career path in the NBA so I can see why some would see her being an assistant coach as pointless. I do think she is qualified though.

[ChumpDumper]

Shit, Watson should be replacing Pop right now!

Such experience!

[ChumpDumper]

So being an intern automatically qualifies as experience for a given position.Um, yes.

That given position for sure.

What do you think internships are for, dude?

[SpurPadre]

As mentioned, kindly provide the proof.

And the argument against Hammon not being there there was already made above.

Can anyone actually refute that these guys weren't there and weren't mentioned or announced at all? Seriously? Again, at this point you guys are piling on just to pile on.

[FromWayDowntown]

So being an intern automatically qualifies as experience for a given position. Lol, Ok, like I said, in Pop I trust but at this point you guys are piling on just to pile on.

Bosses frequently use internships to assess potential new hires. It appears that is precisely what Pop did with Becky.

Are you suggesting that shouldn't happen in the NBA for some reason or just that it shouldn't happen for a woman in the NBA?

[ChumpDumper]

Can anyone actually refute that these guys weren't there and weren't mentioned or announced at all? Seriously?Now you are demanding others to prove a negative.

Good show!

[SpurPadre]

Um, yes.

That given position for sure.

What do you think internships are for, dude?

To get your foot in the door. I've interned for attorneys, that doesn't mean I have experience as a legal expert.

[ChumpDumper]

To get your foot in the door. I've interned for attorneys, that doesn't mean I have experience as a legal expert.Where did you learn to construct so many straw men so quickly?

[anakha]

So being an intern automatically qualifies as experience for a given position. Lol, Ok, like I said, in Pop I trust but at this point you guys are piling on just to pile on.

A) It's a logical fallacy to equate internship in the corporate world with the 'internship' Hammon had with the Spurs last year. It's similar to the same logical fallacy as people arguing why NBA players should not push for higher salaries.

Just working as part of the coaching staff, front office, or player roster at the NBA level puts you at the top percentile of this field. Professional basketball by itself is such a unique field that it can't really be equated to any other industry aside from other professional sports.

B) Again, I'm not piling on you - just pointing out that the arguments you've been making so far have major holes in them.

[SpurPadre]

Now you are demanding others to prove a negative.

Good show!

So now we're pretending the Alamodome celebration didn't happen just for the sake of jerking off to piling on one poster? Lol, unbelievable.

[ChumpDumper]

So now we're pretending the Alamodome celebration didn't happen just for the sake of jerking off to piling on one poster? Lol, unbelievable.Not one poster said the celebration didn't happen.

Not one.

You're surrounding yourself with straw men hoping they will protect you.

[anakha]

Can anyone actually refute that these guys weren't there and weren't mentioned or announced at all? Seriously? Again, at this point you guys are piling on just to pile on.

You were making the argument that Hammon not being mentioned invalidates whatever contribution she might have had.

I said that if you're going to follow that path of logic, you'd need to prove that the others were mentioned in order to show that their contributions were valid. Otherwise, arguing that Hammon not being mentioned as evidence that her contributions are not enough to qualify her is insufficient to support your overall point.

How is that piling on?

[SpurPadre]

Where did you learn to construct so many straw men so quickly?

Not as fast as your construction of ad hominems.

[RD2191]

:corn:

[ChumpDumper]

Not as fast as your construction of ad hominems.No, ignorant and disingenuous were quite accurate qualifiers for your arguments.

You had no idea Hammon spent a season working with the Spurs doing many of the very things assistant coaches do, then you intimated she didn't deserve the job because she was busy playing basketball for a team owned by the Spurs and was not sitting at the Alamodome.

Ignorant and disingenuous.

[FromWayDowntown]

In any event, good for Earl "Probably Should be Coaching the Big Club, What with My NBA Experience" Watson.

[SpurPadre]

You were making the argument that Hammon not being mentioned invalidates whatever contribution she might have had.

I said that if you're going to follow that path of logic, you'd need to prove that the others were mentioned in order to show that their contributions were valid. Otherwise, arguing that Hammon not being mentioned as evidence that her contributions are not enough to qualify her is insufficient to support your overall point.

How is that piling on?

Because it is cheap tactic knowing full well there is no archived footage of the championship celebration that I know you and everyone else here has seen but prefer to build this alternate reality where these men mentioned weren't there so everyone can continue to refute me. Hey, I'm all for constructive feedback but I don't need to get Shit on about it. In fairness, you've at least been more even-handed about it.

[ChumpDumper]

Because it is cheap tactic knowing full well there is no archived footage of the championship celebration that I know you and everyone else here has seen but prefer to build this alternate reality where these men mentioned weren't there so everyone can continue to refute me. Hey, I'm all for constructive feedback but I don't need to get Shit on about it. In fairness, you've at least been more even-handed about it.Who said they weren't there?

No one.

More straw.

[FromWayDowntown]

http://youtu.be/ZkyzbFrYtCE

[100%duncan]

:corn:

You need wine with that. :bobo

[SpurPadre]

No, ignorant and disingenuous were quite accurate qualifiers for your arguments.

You had no idea Hammon spent a season working with the Spurs doing many of the very things assistant coaches do, then you intimated she didn't deserve the job because she was busy playing basketball for a team owned by the Spurs and was not sitting at the Alamodome.

Ignorant and disingenuous.

I knew she spent time with the team but chose not to over emphasize her actual role and importance to the team, which you are doing just out of convenience. But I'm going to end it right here. I wish her luck, hope we all have fun this season and get that elusive repeat we so deserve. You can continue to be a dick, I'll still be rooting with you guys.

[RD2191]

You need wine with that. :bobo
:whine

[ChumpDumper]

I knew she spent time with the team but chose not to over emphasize her actual role and importance to the teamWell, of course, because that's an argument for having her as an assistant.
which you are doing just out of convenience.Not at all, the proof is in her hiring. They had an entire season to see how she worked with MALE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES in THE NBA, and they thought she did well enough to pay her to do it now. Of course you aren't going to emphasize anything that shits on your argument.


But I'm going to end it right here. I wish her luck, hope we all have fun this season and get that elusive repeat we so deserve. You can continue to be a dick, I'll still be rooting with you guys.I doubt Becky whines like you tbh.

[anakha]

Because it is cheap tactic knowing full well there is no archived footage of the championship celebration that I know you and everyone else here has seen but prefer to build this alternate reality where these men mentioned weren't there so everyone can continue to refute me. Hey, I'm all for constructive feedback but I don't need to get Shit on about it. In fairness, you've at least been more even-handed about it.

Do take note that my argument on this point has not been that the others were not mentioned - for the reason you mentioned that complete footage is not available.

My argument was that this particular point you were making is very difficult to support without evidence.

A debate on Watson vs Hammon on their qualifications to be NBA assistant coaches in general (on any team, not just the Spurs) is actually something that I'd consider to have valid arguments on both sides.

Watson vs Hammon as a fit on the Spurs coaching staff is already heavily colored by Hammon's prior experience, so any argument for Watson needs to be more strongly supported by evidence than any argument for Hammon.

[100%duncan]

:lol

[Chinook]

^ Damn. Is it going to start again?

Indeed it did.

[SpurPadre]

Indeed it did.

If I'd known people would make a federal case out of one opinion and be assholes about it, I wouldn't have started it. My apologies it got out of hand.

[SpurPadre]

Do take note that my argument on this point has not been that the others were not mentioned - for the reason you mentioned that complete footage is not available.

My argument was that this particular point you were making is very difficult to support without evidence.

A debate on Watson vs Hammon on their qualifications to be NBA assistant coaches in general (on any team, not just the Spurs) is actually something that I'd consider to have valid arguments on both sides.

Watson vs Hammon as a fit on the Spurs coaching staff is already heavily colored by Hammon's prior experience, so any argument for Watson needs to be more strongly supported by evidence than any argument for Hammon.

Fair enough, Anakha. In the end, my opinion on this matters none to Pop's and I'll have to trust he made the right decision with her.

[exstatic]

Ok, I know it's spilled milk and we have no choice but to hope it works out but I'm making fair points here.

You're making stupid, chauvanistic points here. Pop never played NBA ball. Messina never played pro ball. It's not about NBA experience, it's that you don't want a woman on the staff.

[Old School 44]

lol....I was saw this thread from the main page, and was thinking how in the world did Earl Watson getting hired get to 100+ post? :wakeup

[ABC]

You're making stupid, chauvanistic points here. Pop never played NBA ball. Messina never played pro ball. It's not about NBA experience, it's that you don't want a woman on the staff.

:tu

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Why are people bitchin about Earl over Becky. Watson knows that getting your foot in the door with the Spurs at any capacity will more than likely open doors in his immediate future. Spurs assistants are full right now. Watson has a year to learn the system and can be bumped next year possibly.

Hammon was assisting the coach staff last year and Pop likes what she brings to the table. Watson will get his shot. He feels blessed because he knows if he succeeds with the Spurs, he will have more opportunities coming his way.

[100%duncan]

Why are people bitchin about Earl over Becky. Watson knows that getting your foot in the door with the Spurs at any capacity will more than likely open doors in his immediate future. Spurs assistants are full right now. Watson has a year to learn the system and can be bumped next year possibly.

Hammon was assisting the coach staff last year and Pop likes what she brings to the table. Watson will get his shot. He feels blessed because he knows if he succeeds with the Spurs, he will have more opportunities coming his way.

No one is against Watson's signing, but SpurPadre thinks he's more deserving than Becky which is why this thread went to 4 pages.