Ben Affleck and Bill maher clash over criticizing islam

[InRareForm]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/its-gross-its-racist-ben-affleck-and-bill-maher-clash-over-criticizing-islam/

[boutons_deux]

“Islam is the motherload of bad ideas,” Harris argued.

Has Harris ever read the Old Testament that Christians strongly prefer to the NT and live by? :lol

"Harris countered that the strongest voices in Islam belong to not only extremists, but conservative Muslims who, while criticizing terrorist groups, still follow practices that keep other members of their communities “immiserated.”

the strongest voices in Christianity belong to not only extremists, but conservative Christians who, while criticizing non-Christian groups, still follow practices (aka vote/pimp for Repugs) that keep other members of their communities “immiserated.”

eg: low-wage, low-info, uninsured ignorant "Christian" red states! :lol

... sounds like Christians who hate women, women's health/abortion clinics (how many staff harassed, filmed, intimidated, murdered by Christians so far?), hate science, hate LGBT, hate atheists, hate, hate, hate, ... because Christ and "strongest voices" incited them to hate and to murder and be ignorant "in the name of Lord our God and Savior".

[boutons_deux]

Christians condemn ALL Muslims based on a tiny percentage of Muslim extremists, but object when other people condemn ALL Christians because of Koresh or the Phelps Baptists extremists, or murderers of abortionists/staff or murderers of LGBT.

[m>s]

Lol "tiny percentage"

just wait until European countries are overrun and sharia law goes into effect (which they openly call for already in London) Islam is dangerous and we cannot afford to let you liberals get in the way of action until it's too late. Those guys would cut your fucking head off dude, make no mistake.

[angrydude]

Islam is a lot bigger than the US funded Jihadis in the Middle East

[angrydude]

The very fact that peaceful relatively secular countries with overwhelmingly muslim populations exist disproves that the US-Saudi created shitstorm in countries the US wants to conquer has anything inherently to do with Islam.

There are true believers in any cult.

[DarrinS]

Affleck debating Islam with Sam Harris? Big mistake.

[InRareForm]

bill at the end changes subject when he makes a bad point lol

[boutons_deux]

The very fact that peaceful relatively secular countries with overwhelmingly muslim populations exist disproves that the US-Saudi created shitstorm in countries the US wants to conquer has anything inherently to do with Islam.

The Russians into Afghanistan,

the US supporting Israel,

the US occupying Saudi Arabia (said OBL),

the US/UK invading Iraq for oil and Repugs destabilizing the Middle East,

all contributed to the reaction, the blowback, the CREATION of Muslim extremism against the US/UK/West.

The US/CIA/UK overthrowing democratically elected Mossadegh/Iran 1950s, installing the corrupt, oppressive Shah, lead to the 1979 Iranian revolution and US Embassy destruction, hostages.

[baseline bum]

Gotta agree with Maher here, it's ridiculous how the left mostly applies such a double standard to Christians vs Muslims.

[Nero5]

Lol "tiny percentage"

just wait until European countries are overrun and sharia law goes into effect (which they openly call for already in London) Islam is dangerous and we cannot afford to let you liberals get in the way of action until it's too late. Those guys would cut your fucking head off dude, make no mistake.

LOL! what is the current percentage of muslim people in each european country and if you take the current increase in percentage terms how many centuries will it take to reach 50%. Overrun my arse.
As far as the call for Sharia law being made in London, well that's simply freedom of speech and you should recognise it as such, after all you use it in regards to your neonazi foolishness. I must admit the neonazi thing seems much more a long troll ala the latest dumb and dumber movie than anything else so why do you persist with it?

[m>s]

there is no such thing as freedom of speech in UK, and even if there were then it should be up to brits, scots, irish, etc to decide how they want to live not foreigner subhumans who believe in "death to the infidels."

i'm sorry but whenever someone is calling for my head then your little liberal multiculturalism experiment is over, i'm not going to give up my homeland, wellbeing, and security for the PC crowd. if they want sharia law then they should go back to their country where it is practiced. hell, even if they don't want sharia law they should still go back, or else britain will no longer be britain in 50 years.


and if you have a problem with that, it makes you a race traitor cuckold.

[Nero5]

LOL!! I should quote you for amusement value, it's like watching a handicapped kid at a special school trying to figure out how to work a door knob. Race Traitor...LOL! I imagine your concept of ethnogenealogy is as complex as holding a piece of white paper next to someone's skin and saying 'yep they're white!'.
Clearly you have not read much history, but here's the cliff notes - England has been invaded a number of times, by Romans, Vikings, Saxons, Angles! If you've managed to take this on board then prepare for another shock...so has Scotland, let alone their long association with France due to the Catholic church and the mutual dislike of the English. Germany, I'm sure you like Germany. Well they've been overrun by the Huns, Mongols, Vikings, Romans - let alone what the Russian's did to the gene pool post WW2 and the Russian army was from all over the place. This is the beautifully amusing irony of the Nazi stupidity. They managed to ignore their of ethnogenealogy and laughingly think it was pure, when it had been a veritable stewpot for centuries, but then there was the debacle of the 'Aryan' myth. There are real Aryan's, have been for longer than Germany existed...but they are Pashtun's from Afghanistan and they are for the most part Muslim.
This has been an amusing five minutes, however I know you are probably going to reply with some snide vitriol or abuse, it's what I expect, simply because you think that you have some sort of racial superiority. It's the motivation of this that interests me - I think that largely the neonazi movement is based of failure and cowardice - you feel that you cannot compete, you are perhaps not as successful as you feel you should be, yet want power and control because you have so little over your own life. Of course admitting that you are the problem is HARD, and changing yourself is also hard. But the one thing you can cling to and that cannot be taken away if the colour of your skin and this becomes the central point of reference of a bitter philosophy that looks for 'others' that are the problem. Sex won't be an outlet because most national socialists probably don't get out much which means that you sit at home and watch lots of porn and youtube vids of Nazi glory days and the porn won't help because everyone will have a biggerdick than you...bit of a sad life really.

[m>s]

Everyone you just mentioned aside from the Mongols is white

[The Reckoning]

same. germany has been saturated by turks. it's doomed to happen bro. no more blue eyes, no more fair hair.

[m>s]

You freaking race cucks are disgusting no one is going anywhere. Turks are actually leaving germany and have a negative growth rate. Big change is coming way before then. Conservative whites have 2.9 kids on average while liberals have .9


Our race will come out of this even stronger

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5-uYLiKmw

[Nero5]

Everyone you just mentioned aside from the Mongols is white

You know if you were from Germany in the late 1930's I could excuse this ignorance as the Nazi's altered the school books including those of history, but you come from a wealthy country and have the internet so there is no excuse. The Huns were as 'white' as the average Mongolian...they were from the central steppes of Asia you dunce. The Roman army was very diverse during the period they overran central europe - the Legion had soldiers and support from all parts of the empire.
'Conservative whites'? If you look at the European birthrate demographics from an economic standpoint you find an interesting phenomenon - the lower socio-economic band always has more children. It's almost an inverse to education and material worth ... so you are saying that Germany is getting progressively dumber. Of course adjust statistics to take into account reunification might not have crossed your mind yet.
Then the true bred vs hybrid theory will not have been considered either.
You know I've never been called a 'cuck' before - some sort of obscure insult is it?

[boutons_deux]

LOL! what is the current percentage of muslim people in each european country and if you take the current increase in percentage terms how many centuries will it take to reach 50%. Overrun my arse.
As far as the call for Sharia law being made in London, well that's simply freedom of speech and you should recognise it as such, after all you use it in regards to your neonazi foolishness. I must admit the neonazi thing seems much more a long troll ala the latest dumb and dumber movie than anything else so why do you persist with it?

there's about 6M North Africans in France (vs about 600K Jews, the biggest Jewish population in Europe) out of 61M+ France total.

Sharia law being imposed on non-Muslims? Muslims DESTROYING America (very hard because Obama and Obamacare already destroyed America) :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

Affleck debating Islam with Sam Harris? Big mistake.Affleck debating _______with _________. Bad Idea.seems like a good bet.

[DarrinS]

Can liberalism be saved from itself?

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/can-liberalism-be-saved-from-itself/

[Winehole23]

by content-free, cut-and-paste scoffers? I doubt it.

[DarrinS]

by content-free, cut-and-paste scoffers? I doubt it.


I'm glad you never scoff? :lmao

[DarrinS]

In arguing against Maher and Harris, Nicholas Kristof makes their point

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/09/opinion/nicholas-kristof-the-diversity-of-islam.html?_r=1




Sure, denounce the brutality, sexism and intolerance that animate the Islamic State and constitute a significant strain within Islam. But don’t confuse that with all Islam




If you watch the video, this is the point Maher and Harris were making. And they were very clear about not referring to ALL Muslims.

[DarrinS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ubamwlPI8

[TheSanityAnnex]

After the show, Kristof, Affleck, Maher, and I continued our discussion. At one point, Kristof reiterated the claim that Maher and I had failed to acknowledge the existence of all the good Muslims who condemn ISIS, citing the popular hashtag #NotInOurName. In response, I said: “Yes, I agree that all condemnation of ISIS is good. But what do you think would happen if we had burned a copy of the Koran on tonight’s show? There would be riots in scores of countries. Embassies would fall. In response to our mistreating a book, millions of Muslims would take to the streets, and we would spend the rest of our lives fending off credible threats of murder. But when ISIS crucifies people, buries children alive, and rapes and tortures women by the thousands—all in the name of Islam—the response is a few small demonstrations in Europe and a hashtag.” I don’t think I’m being uncharitable when I say that neither Affleck nor Kristof had an intelligent response to this. Nor did they pretend to doubt the truth of what I said.