Fug

[m>s]

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/gop-rep-at-least-ten-isis-fighters-have-been-caught-coming-across-the-mexican-border/

the violence is about to come to the home front. Americans will soon pay the price for allowing our leadership to go unchecked for so long. Somebody help this nation.

[Winehole23]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/eft/eft21.htm

[Cry Havoc]

Too bad you weren't there. You could shoot them with your AR. I mean, your m4. I mean, your m16.

[m>s]

We will be fighting the communists who allowed this to happen too

[m>s]

>tfw you kick in the door of a marxist collaborater and pistol whip them across the face before making them get up and March to a pow camp

[Darius McCrary]

:lol this guy knows dick for politics this forum is spack

[m>s]

N!gger

[Winehole23]

^^^semi-literate keyboard gladiator

[Winehole23]

border security piss pants like m>s waste our money and expand the reach of state (and private) surveillance, with no measurable social benefit:


By the Legislative Budget Board's estimate, Texas spent $452 million on stand-alone border security expenses from fiscal years 2008 through 2013. See a nifty two-pager (http://www.lbb.state.tx.us/Documents/Publications/Issue_Briefs/420_Texas_Border_Security_Funding_Overview.pdf) (pdf) published last year summarizing budgets and revenue streams, which includes this description of new statewide intelligence capacity being developed under the pretext of "border security":


The current state border initiative, Operation Border Star, was first funded with $110.3 million in General Revenue Fund-related and State Highway Funds by the Eightieth Legislature, Regular Session, 2007. Operation Border Star centers on the use of intelligence to increase the effectiveness of federal, state, local, and private law enforcement assets. Regional intelligence is collected by six Joint Operations Intelligence Centers (JOICs) in the border area. These JOICs send intelligence data to the Border Security Operations Center (BSOC) in Austin. Administered by Texas Rangers, the BSOC integrates regional intelligence to help determine a more efficient use of law enforcement assets in the larger border area. A major tool used by the BSOC is TxMAP. TxMAP merges intelligence from JOICs and other sources to provide a real-time display of criminal activity layered on a Texas map.

So, exactly what are "private law enforcement assets"? Rent-a-cops? Bounty hunters? Informants? Companies selling license-plate-reader data? Maybe Stratfor (http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2013/11/dps-sharing-closely-held-intelligence.html)? (IMO more of a media outlet.) What does "private law enforcement assets" mean? Readers' thoughts?


Also one notices the intelligence folks are looking at a Texas map, which as we know, doesn't stop at the Willacy County line. Though this capacity has been developed on the pretext of "border security," the same methods and software are capable of being aimed anywhere in the state at anybody. And since crime on the border is much lower than in the state's big cities, it won't be long before the original justification will be viewed as a flash in the pan. Texas is a regional transportation and money laundering hub for illegal narcotics, so it will be easy enough for law enforcement to justify using their new toys tools elsewhere in the state, assuming they're ever even asked to explain it at all.


For the record, $452 million is enough to fund the state's prison system for a year. That's a lot of money with very little to show for it in terms of demonstrable improvements to security. The state has been shoveling border-security money down a bottomless pit, and under the watchful eye of supposed GOP budget hawks, to boot.http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2014/10/border-security-gave-dps-pretext-for.html

[m>s]

Yeah borders are a waste of money!

lol semi-retarded

[Winehole23]

keeping people afraid and compliant to state power is the point of the exercise and a prerequisite for your Nazism.

your faith in effectiveness of border security provided by the liberal state, btw, is touching.

[m>s]

I have 0 faith whatsoever in those fuckers in Washington. The only thing I can be damn sure of is that they'll do their best to fuck me over.

[Winehole23]

your border hysteria strengthens their hand considerably

[boutons_deux]

did someone say Repug/tea bagger/Fox border hysteria/paranoia?

The border bombshell that’s completely wrong

Rep. Duncan Hunter Jr. (R-Calif.) is perhaps best known for arguing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/duncan-hunter-middle-east_n_4386595.html) last year that the United States should withdraw from nuclear talks with Iran because it is “part of the Middle Eastern culture” to lie. Instead, the far-right congressman said (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/12/04/3018431/duncan-hunter-iran-nukes/), U.S. officials should go after Iran “with tactical nuclear devices and you set them back a decade or two or three.”

And as striking as this was last year, Hunter’s remarks on Fox News last night were just as amazing.

The California Republican told Greta Van Susteren, almost in passing, that Islamic State militants are “coming across the southern border.” The Fox host, not surprisingly, seemed surprised, and it led to this exchange:

VAN SUSTEREN: You say that they are coming in the southern border, which is – changes all the dynamics. Do you have any information or any evidence that they are coming in through the southern border now?

HUNTER: Yes. Yes. I have information that –

VAN SUSTEREN: Tell me what you know.

HUNTER: I know that at least 10 ISIS fighters have been caught coming across the Mexican border in Texas. There’s nobody talking about it.



When Van Susteren asked how he knows that, the Republican congressman replied, “Because I’ve asked the Border Patrol.” He added that Border Patrol agents “caught” Islamic State militants “at the border, therefore, we know that ISIS is coming across the border.”

That’s quite a claim. Republicans have spent years desperately pushing for an even more aggressive crackdown on the U.S./Mexico border, and recent events – ISIS, Ebola, migrant children, etc. – have given them new rhetorical ammunition.

There’s just one problem: Duncan Hunter appears to have made up his claim out of whole cloth.


If U.S. Border Patrol officials had actually caught 10 Islamic State militants at our border, it would be an extremely important national development. But the reason “there’s nobody talking about it” is that this never actually happened in reality.

Danny Vinik reached out to a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, who said on the record (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119742/duncan-hunter-border-patrol-caught-10-isis-fighters-dhs-wrong),

“The suggestion that individuals who have ties to ISIL have been apprehended at the Southwest border is categorically false, and not supported by any credible intelligence or the facts on the ground. DHS continues to have no credible intelligence to suggest terrorist organizations are actively plotting to cross the southwest border.”

Which raises the question of whether one congressman – and only one congressman – has secret knowledge about bizarre circumstances that no one else can verify, or whether that congressman made stuff up during a Fox News interview.

Vice President Biden is forced to apologize when he says things that are true, while Republican members of Congress don’t have to apologize, ever (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/tom-cottons-overactive-imagination), when they say things are demonstrably ridiculous.

The right’s war on empiricism (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/unemployment-truthers-see-new-conspiracy) is getting worse, and it’s just not healthy.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-border-bombshell-thats-completely-wrong

At least this lying asshole got some minutes on Maddow for some gleeful laughing!

[m>s]

By not wanting amnesty, totally open borders, and radical forced demographic transformation in this country I'm playing into their hand? Yeah ok.

and shillbot, pls go. Nobody wants your shitty articles here.

[rogues]

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-truth-of-what-is-really-going-on-at-the-texas-mexico-border-is-frightening

[Winehole23]

By not wanting amnesty, totally open borders, and radical forced demographic transformation in this country I'm playing into their hand?false dilemma. because I criticize your fear-fapping doesn't mean I support total amnesty and no border enforcement, and neither is that what Obama proposes.

you're tilting at windmills, tbh

[m>s]

and neither is that what Obama proposes
Bullshit

"I will radically transform this nation"

-barrack O'nigga

[ChumpDumper]

Bullshit

"I will radically transform this nation"

-barrack O'niggaMade up quote.

[m>s]

Fundamentally transform

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/barack_obama_and_the_fundamental_transformation_of _america.html

[ChumpDumper]

lol retraction

[m>s]

Fuck off libshit

[ChumpDumper]

lol angry corrected nazi put in his place

[m>s]

lol word nazi is telling me

[ChumpDumper]

lol u still mad

[m>s]

Lel keep saying it and it'll come true cuck!

[ChumpDumper]

lol it's already true.

[m>s]

>implying

[DMX7]

^^^semi-literate keyboard gladiator

:lol

[ChumpDumper]

lol the congressman admitted to getting the story off the internets. Probably SpursTalk.

[m>s]

no he didn't

[ChumpDumper]

Oh right, that was another one. Hunter just had the same site "back up" his claim that everyone else says is bullshit.

lol a literal circle jerk

Besides if we caught ISIS fighters, what's the problem? We caught ISIS fighters! USA! USA!

Oh, that's right -- you're leaving the USA to go accounting somewhere else.

lol

[m>s]

Oh right, that was another one.

lol thanks

[ChumpDumper]

lol thankslol same site

lol same unsubstantiated claim

lol you'll believe anything

[m>s]

As long as he didn't read it on spurstalk rofl

[ChumpDumper]

Actually I wouldn't doubt it.

You've reached conspiracy level Cosmored.

[m>s]

Doesnt boutons write for cnn?

[ChumpDumper]

Doesnt boutons write for cnn?So what is to be gained by publicly announcing 10 guys were caught from a national security standpoint?

And where are they being held? If he was told they are in custody surely they told him where. If he's giving away state secrets, what's one more?

[m>s]

Because they probably wouldn't cooperate or divulge any further information

when jesse Ventura was governor or Minnesota the CIA sent guys to interrogate him and wouldn't answer any of his questions. They don't just tell anything to some state rep or a governor. the further up the hierarchy the more you know..this is how government works.

[m>s]

Oh and what's to be gained? He's doing his best Paul revere impression. This country is in danger dude. I don't care who you are left, right, dildo party..this country is in uncharted territory right now.

[ChumpDumper]

Because they probably wouldn't cooperate or divulge any further informationHow do you know? Why not? They already told him they had him.

Why only tell one Representative? Why not tell someone higher up the food chain?

Why not tell more than one website and one guy who reads the website?

This is important information!

The people need to know for some reason no one has stated yet!

[ChumpDumper]

Oh and what's to be gained? He's doing his best Paul revere impression. This country is in danger dude. I don't care who you are left, right, dildo party..this country is in uncharted territory right now.What do you care?

You said you are leaving.

And why doesn't this guy want to know any more than what he was told? Sounds like he just read the website and is content to leave it at that. Took a long weekend while the ISIS crisis is going on full bore in El Paso. Is that what Paul Revere did?

[m>s]

This conversation is over shill

[ChumpDumper]

This conversation is over shillNo doubt. You can't back up anything you say any more than Hunter or Ventura can.

[DMX7]

I'm not afraid.

[m>s]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/10/10/243072_did-members-of-terrorist-group.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/10/10/243072_did-members-of-terrorist-group.html
My sig p238 will be available in 8 days for all day carry. Allahsnackbar

[ChumpDumper]

So it was bullshit.

lol

[m>s]

My sig p238 will be available in 8 days for all day carry. Allahsnackbar
nice dude im about to buy a few more with this next bonus