Rick Carlisle: Parsons is too heavy

[Sheriff Hoyt]

DALLAS -- Chandler Parsons, whose wallet got much fatter when he signed a three-year, $46 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks, also focused on bulking up his physique this summer.

As far as coach Rick Carlisle is concerned, Parsons added too much weight.

For the second time since the Mavs reported to camp, Carlisle made a point to note that Parsons needed to shed weight. The 6-foot-9 Parsons, who was listed at 215 pounds during his three-year tenure with the Houston Rockets, reported to training camp at approximately 235 pounds.

Carlisle believes the increased weight has created conditioning issues for Parsons, who had nine points on 4-of-12 shooting, six rebounds and six assists in 20 minutes during Friday night's preseason loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

"He looked tired out there tonight to me and his shot is short," Carlisle said. "He's working on losing some weight. He's a little bit heavier than he's been. He's up over 230 and we want to see him get down to at least 225. That's a work in progress, and tonight's one of those nights where I think the extra weight was a hindrance."

Parsons particularly focused on lifting weights during the free-agency process, when he didn't play basketball to protect himself from injury. Primarily a small forward, Parsons felt he needed to add strength to play significant minutes at power forward, a role he could fill for the Mavs when Dirk Nowitzki rests during the season.

Carlisle has made his opinion clear to Parsons, who doesn't necessarily agree with his coach on the matter, but is willing to shed some weight.

"His opinion of heavy is different than mine," said Parsons, who was 1-of-6 from 3-point range against the Thunder. "We kind of go at it every day about it. At the end of the day, I respect his opinion. After training camp, my weight fluctuates. I'll get it down."

Asked about Parsons' weight gain on the first day of camp, Carlisle dryly remarked, "One man's bulking up is another man's not quite in shape yet."

Ten days later, Carlisle was more pointed with his public commentary on Parsons' conditioning.

"An increase of 18 to 20 pounds is just too much," Carlisle said. "We talked about it today. We talk about it a lot. He'll get there. He'll get there, but he looked tired out there and a little heavy-legged, and the extra seven or eight pounds aren't helping.

"I don't mean to call him out in public or ridicule him, but it's just a fact. He's an important guy for us. We just need him to get to his right conditioning and weight level so he can play his best, because we're going to need him to play a lot of minutes over the course of 82 games."

[jeebus]

:lol Fatsons

[baseline bum]

:lmao

[unforeseen]

He should diet with Raymond Faton.

[Ginobilly]

And the amazing thing is that 235lbs at 6'9 is considered and looks skinny in the non-sports world. But in the basketball and soccer world( where cardio endurance is more valuable than muscular strength) too much muscle is considered fat.

[Indazone]

$46 million :lol

[100%duncan]

:rollin

[Cry Havoc]

6'9 235 is not overweight, wtf Carlisle.

[100%duncan]

6'9 235 is not overweight, wtf Carlisle.

RC didn't say so.

[Bulaien999]

I don't remember Parsons being that tall though....

[m>s]

was watching highlight videos and he does look like hes in slow motion on his drives

[Raven]

And the amazing thing is that 235lbs at 6'9 is considered and looks skinny in the non-sports world. But in the basketball and soccer world( where cardio endurance is more valuable than muscular strength) too much muscle is considered fat.

Not sure where is that considered skinny

[Chinook]

On the Rockets, Parsons was bound to play a lot of minutes at PF. Being bigger is probably a good thing in that regard. In Dallas, Parsons will be a wing most of the time, so he needs to prioritize mobility.

[djohn2oo8]

On the Rockets, Parsons was bound to play a lot of minutes at PF. Being bigger is probably a good thing in that regard. In Dallas, Parsons will be a wing most of the time, so he needs to prioritize mobility.

This. Plus for a guy with back issues adding that much muscle In a short period of time won't help...

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10707005_646187702168084_422851903_n.jpg

[AlexJones]

On the Rockets, Parsons was bound to play a lot of minutes at PF. Being bigger is probably a good thing in that regard. In Dallas, Parsons will be a wing most of the time, so he needs to prioritize mobility.

He's backing Nowitzki up this year.

[hsxvvd]

This. Plus for a guy with back issues adding that much muscle In a short period of time won't help...

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10707005_646187702168084_422851903_n.jpg

Felton looks like the bus driver is photo bombing.

[Chinook]

He's backing Nowitzki up this year.

He'll get some minutes at the four, but Dallas didn't max him out to play him out of position. He could get 40 mpg, and most of those would be at the three.

[Malik Hairston]

Parsons doesn't have the frame to bulk up by 20 pounds, and his style of play isn't suited to carry that type of weight, regardless..

His trainer or advisor is a moron, tbh..

High volume bulking is generally useless and stupid, unless you're on juice or a bouncer(that doesn't mind being fat), tbh..

[Raven]

This. Plus for a guy with back issues adding that much muscle In a short period of time won't help...

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10707005_646187702168084_422851903_n.jpg

Maybe you mean fat. Fat and muscle are different things.

[SPM]

http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10729428_716341971773165_1646547794_n.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

^ Parsons and Carlisle are gonna get along great

[Seventyniner]

Why didn't Carlisle tell Parsons this in July?

[jeebus]

This. Plus for a guy with back issues adding that much muscle In a short period of time won't help...

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10707005_646187702168084_422851903_n.jpg

Jesus...did some of the players smear their shit on that logo?

[Bulaien999]

Jesus...did some of the players smear their shit on that logo?

It's the filter they used on the picture, notice the jerseys.

Portions is setting up to be the scape goat and the season hasn't even started lol.

[Franklin]

white Carmelo Anthony :lmao

[unforeseen]

http://i.imgur.com/2bAvzDA.jpg

[RD2191]

Parsons does look significantly bigger. Don't think that's a good move.

[mystargtr34]

:lol Chandler Portions

[Dunc n Dave]

http://i.imgur.com/2bAvzDA.jpg

:lol

[ambchang]

Not sure where is that considered skinny

In America, where people 6' tall and 235lbs isn't considered fat, being 6'9" and 235lbs should be considered skinny.

Of course, we know everyone on this board is 6'4" and 200lbs of pure muscles with 8% body fat and a 41" vertical leap.

[m>s]

basketball players tend to be slimmer than average, the weight really does look to have slowed his step in the videos ive seen from preseason

average people /= pro basketball players

[100%duncan]

http://i.imgur.com/2bAvzDA.jpg

:lmao

[DJR210]

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10707005_646187702168084_422851903_n.jpg

:lol pussy ass Dirk nowhere to be found


:lol Chandler Portions

:lol

[Malik Hairston]

That picture gets really, really scrubby after Monta and Parsons, tbh:lol..

[The Reckoning]

It's the filter they used on the picture, notice the jerseys.

Portions is setting up to be the scape goat and the season hasn't even started lol.



lol

[DPG21920]

I totally forgot they have Charlie V. That dude is a nut case.

Rick is coming off as a prick here. You just don't call someone out like that in the public. Especially when you claim they are working on it. He's your new big money guy and you do something as dumb as that? Especially when you know he's a sensitive guy in the first place.

Leads to bad things happening and now Parson's is on Instagram posting shirtless pictures in response to Ricks claims :lol

[100%duncan]

:lol pussy ass Dirk nowhere to be found



:lol

Dirk is more than punk ass posing tbh

[djohn2oo8]

I totally forgot they have Charlie V. That dude is a nut case.

Rick is coming off as a prick here. You just don't call someone out like that in the public. Especially when you claim they are working on it. He's your new big money guy and you do something as dumb as that? Especially when you know he's a sensitive guy in the first place.

Leads to bad things happening and now Parson's is on Instagram posting shirtless pictures in response to Ricks claims :lol

That's what a good coach does. If you don't then you see a result ending up like Kevin McHale.

[SupremeGuy]

http://i.imgur.com/2bAvzDA.jpg:rollin

[SupremeGuy]

I thought the rockets were fucking stupid for letting Parsons go but maybe they knew he was becoming a diva. New contract, new diva attitude.

[DPG21920]

I thought the rockets were fucking stupid for letting Parsons go but maybe they knew he was becoming a diva. New contract, new diva attitude.

What did Parsons do? He's jacked. It's not like he got fat. Rick is an idiot for calling him out publicly like that - especially when he has Raymond Faton on his team.

[SupremeGuy]

What did Parsons do? He's jacked. It's not like he got fat. Rick is an idiot for calling him out publicly like that - especially when he has Raymond Faton on his team.Like Parsons didn't know what weight Carlisle wanted him at...

[DPG21920]

Like Parsons didn't know what weight Carlisle wanted him at...

That doesn't make any sense. He worked out and is free to put on healthy weight. He's not fat and Rick even mentioned the weight "he wanted him at" and it's 5 pounds difference from what he weighs. It's just stupid.

[SupremeGuy]

That doesn't make any sense. He worked out and is free to put on healthy weight. He's not fat and Rick even mentioned the weight "he wanted him at" and it's 5 pounds difference from what he weighs. It's just stupid.5 pounds is 5 pounds, bro. It doesn't look good for the mavs that their coach is already bitching and calling out their new "star" player, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

What did Parsons do? He's jacked. It's not like he got fat. Rick is an idiot for calling him out publicly like that - especially when he has Raymond Faton on his team.

Speed bulking in one offseason for a position that needs him to be mobile is not smart. And then not playing basketball. Also, back issues will become more of a problem since he had them last year with the extra muscle he put on. Doesn't have the frame for it. And Parsons is an idiot for publicly disagreeing with a proven coach.

[djohn2oo8]

That doesn't make any sense. He worked out and is free to put on healthy weight. He's not fat and Rick even mentioned the weight "he wanted him at" and it's 5 pounds difference from what he weighs. It's just stupid.

That is not healthy weight for him.

[djohn2oo8]

@ESPNSteinLine: Mavs coach Rick Carlisle has just issued statement apologizing to Mavs F Chandler Parsons for publicly criticizing his conditioning Friday

:lol Jesus

[timtonymanu]

:lol Wow, should Pop do the same with Diaw?

[DPG21920]

:lol I win.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol I win.

?

[SupremeGuy]

@ESPNSteinLine: Mavs coach Rick Carlisle has just issued statement apologizing to Mavs F Chandler Parsons for publicly criticizing his conditioning Friday

:lol JesusLooks like he's already losing control of the team, tbh. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Looks like he's already losing control of the team, tbh. :lol

Either Cuban demanded the apology or Parsons did through his agent. Lol diva

[djohn2oo8]

The power of Dan Fegan.

[djohn2oo8]

521421766749851648

[djohn2oo8]

521422232053362689

[Calispursfan11]

How fat would Felton be if he didn't have to play basketball year round?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Power move fail

[Budkin]

http://i.imgur.com/2bAvzDA.jpg

10/10 :lmao

[Baam]

It's fucked up that Carlisle got strong-armed into making an apology. Parsons is such a sensitive pussy...

[Red Hawk #21]

:lol Fatsons


He should diet with Raymond Faton.


Felton looks like the bus driver is photo bombing.


http://i.imgur.com/2bAvzDA.jpg


:lol Chandler Portions

You people are fucking hilarious :rollin

[SupremeGuy]

It's fucked up that Carlisle got strong-armed into making an apology. Parsons is such a sensitive pussy...Yeah, completely agree. I'm starting to understand why Houston didn't match. lol cuban

[Bill_Brasky]

Pop called Patty a "little fatass" and he went out and got in the best shape of his life......Portions goes and gets on instagram

[DPG21920]

Pop called Patty a "little fatass" and he went out and got in the best shape of his life......Portions goes and gets on instagram

The difference was Patty was fat. Parson's was in great shape and very toned/muscular.

[djohn2oo8]

The difference was Patty was fat. Parson's was in great shape and very toned/muscular.

He didn't call Parsons fat. He said he added too much muscle for his frame that affects his conditioning.

[DPG21920]

He didn't call Parsons fat. He said he added too much muscle for his frame that affects his conditioning.

That's not at all what he said, but cool. He called him heavy. He didn't say "he looks great and worked hard, but he has too much muscle now". He implied he was overweight/fat. Hence the apology.

[djohn2oo8]

That's not at all what he said, but cool. He called him heavy. He didn't say "he looks great and worked hard, but he has too much muscle now". He implied he was overweight/fat. Hence the apology.

I guess no one gets heavier when they add muscle.

[djohn2oo8]

The difference was Patty was fat. Parson's was in great shape and very toned/muscular.

And you said calling a player out like that was wrong. So you can't excuse Pop and ridicule Carlisle.

[DPG21920]

And you said calling a player out like that was wrong. So you can't excuse Pop and ridicule Carlisle.

I'm beginning to think you may have some sort of a disability.

[djohn2oo8]

I totally forgot they have Charlie V. That dude is a nut case.

Rick is coming off as a prick here. You just don't call someone out like that in the public :lol


The difference was Patty was fat. Parson's was in great shape and very toned/muscular.

Hmmm

[djohn2oo8]

I'm beginning to think you may have some sort of a disability.

You're the one with the short jokes.

[djohn2oo8]

Pop called Patty a "little fatass" and he went out and got in the best shape of his life......Portions goes and gets on instagram

This. Plus Pop called out Diaw for not being in shape.

[SPM]

He should apologize...... it was stupid of RC to publicly call out one of his better players. Parsons has looked good during the preseason.... doesn't have his legs yet.... which is why his shot is flat, his weight looks fine.

[djohn2oo8]

He should apologize...... it was stupid of RC to publicly call out one of his better players. Parsons has looked good during the preseason.... doesn't have his legs yet.... which is why his shot is flat, his weight looks fine.

No he shouldn't have. If a coach feels a player is not in shape why can he not call him out? A player can be called out for a bad game but not his conditioning? Ok.

[SPM]

Parson's is in shape...... every Mav player including Cuban has said so. Carlisle looks dumb as hell for this.

[DPG21920]

^ don't bother on this one

[djohn2oo8]

Parson's is in shape...... every Mav player including Cuban has said so. Carlisle looks dumb as hell for this.

There is a difference to being in shape and being in basketball shape. Gaining 20 lbs of muscle in one summer will only exacerbate his back problems, and slow him down guarding SF.

[Bill_Brasky]

Pop didnt publicly call out Patty though. Thats just what players said he would tell Patty in practice.

[DMC]

Jesus...did some of the players smear their shit on that logo?
Tiago Splitter's scalp blood from Blair's foot tbh

[DMC]

Pop didnt publicly call out Patty though. Thats just what players said he would tell Patty in practice.
Yeah but Pop said it to the press that he called Patty "Fatty Patty". Before, after, same thing. Nothing wrong with telling your high dollar player to shape up.

[DMC]

No he shouldn't have. If a coach feels a player is not in shape why can he not call him out? A player can be called out for a bad game but not his conditioning? Ok.
He can, after he talks to the player and the player doesn't do anything about it. Keep it in the family, not in the media. That's rule 1 but Mark Cuban set the tone for ousting that rule long ago.

[DMC]

What did Parsons do? He's jacked. It's not like he got fat. Rick is an idiot for calling him out publicly like that - especially when he has Raymond Faton on his team.
You cannot call out a black guy as a white guy unless you're coach Pop.

[djohn2oo8]

He can, after he talks to the player and the player doesn't do anything about it. Keep it in the family, not in the media. That's rule 1 but Mark Cuban set the tone for ousting that rule long ago.

True.