book is out on gameamager wilson [Archive]

Pelicans78

10-12-2014, 07:19 PM

No he can only succeed when Lynch and his D carry his ass to the end.

The refs also help

He has it really easy. He doesn't have to take alot of chances since the team around him is really good. Its easy to be efficient being a QB for that team. He plays it uber safe and can make plays out of the pocket to get it done.

Floyd Pacquiao

10-12-2014, 08:16 PM

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HI-FI

10-12-2014, 09:17 PM

i just can't wait til Seattle gives him his first big contract.
http://www.grtl.org/sites/default/files//images/pray.jpeg

soon my son....

Avante

10-13-2014, 01:04 AM

I cannot believe the total lack of football knowledge I see here, amazing.

Stop getting carried away with...."A"....game rookies, ok?

The Pats get killed by the Chiefs and it's.......Tom Brady is washed up and.....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

The Colts were 0-2.

Tony Romo is shit, the Niners killed him.

Come on people, damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff Van Gundy

10-13-2014, 01:52 AM

Avante

10-13-2014, 02:23 AM

LOL, didn't you have some kind of stat that says Cowboys had no chance against the Seahawks this Sunday? What a fucking tool

I took the Cowboys plus the points fool.

But, only a total moron would think they could actually win the game. There was no logical reason of any kind to see that happening. None!

That is unless you have one.

Spur-Addict

10-13-2014, 10:46 AM

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:lol

Clipper Nation

10-13-2014, 10:48 AM

I took the Cowboys plus the points fool.

But, only a total moron would think they could actually win the game. There was no logical reason of any kind to see that happening. None!

That is unless you have one.
You thought the Cowboys had no chance of winning, that's reason enough to think they could :lol

Clipper Nation

10-13-2014, 10:55 AM

LOL, didn't you have some kind of stat that says Cowboys had no chance against the Seahawks this Sunday? What a fucking tool

Who have the Cowboys beat on the road the last two seasons? They struggled with Houston at home. What are we looking at that says they have a chance "in" Seattle? The Seahawks can beat the Packers. Broncos and Niners there, what, they can't beat the Cowboys also?

The Cowboys have beaten four teams with a combined record of......7-13.

The Seahawks have beaten three teams with a combined record of....7-7

pgardn

10-13-2014, 11:05 AM

The book I read concerned the Cowboy's offensive line.

They have been incredibly good. I can't remember the last season the Cowboys had this level of offensive line play.
Is Murray giving away watches and meals?

SanAntonioSpurs23

10-13-2014, 06:17 PM

No he can only succeed when Lynch and his D carry his ass to the end.

The refs also help

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 06:21 PM

i feel like there was a lot of wilson induced pent-up rage that everybody cathartically let out with this thread :lol

Obstructed_View

10-13-2014, 07:45 PM

i feel like there was a lot of wilson induced pent-up rage that everybody cathartically let out with this thread :lol

:lol I agree. To be fair, it's been a long time coming. Even if you like Wilson and appreciate the great job he does by staying within himself and managing a great team, it's grating hearing ESPN gush about how he's a better quarterback than Andrew Luck and Aaron Rodgers.

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 07:52 PM

have people seriously called him better than rodgers/manning and co? i've never heard that. im one of his biggest fans here and i've never even said he's better than luck/rivers

Killakobe81

10-13-2014, 08:28 PM

have people seriously called him better than rodgers/manning and co? i've never heard that. im one of his biggest fans here and i've never even said he's better than luck/rivers

Peter King and others have been riding his dick hard, tbh.

I think he is good more than just a manager ... but is overrated by many. People arguing that you would take him over Luck (out of young QB's are crazy) never heard anyone say he is better than Peyton or Arod

spurraider21

10-13-2014, 08:30 PM

Peter King and others have been riding his dick hard, tbh.

I think he is good more than just a manager ... but is overrated by many. People arguing that you would take him over Luck (out of young QB's are crazy) never heard anyone say he is better than Peyton or Arod
be careful when saying that on spurstalk

jimbo

10-13-2014, 08:39 PM

Pro football focus has had him as better than Luck before this year. (and worse than Luck this year)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/07/16/qbs-in-focus-russell-wilson/

Enough stats to make Avante's head explode.

Killakobe81

10-13-2014, 08:45 PM

be careful when saying that on spurstalk

IDGAF, saw the guy in college he wins. He needs help, sure ... but ever good QB does. i dont think he is as elitet ...top 5 talk is crazy. i think top 8-12 is more realistic.

Obstructed_View

10-13-2014, 08:51 PM

have people seriously called him better than rodgers/manning and co? i've never heard that. im one of his biggest fans here and i've never even said he's better than luck/rivers

Many of us hate resorting to what amounts to criticism of a good player to counter overinflated arguments about his greatness, and ESPN seems to thrive on generating that kind of discussion. Must have been sometime after the Broncos game, when Brady and Rodgers started off slow. A lot of the ESPN morning shows had the "Redraft: Wilson or Luck" discussion. I usually change the channel when I see stuff like that.

Killakobe81

10-13-2014, 09:04 PM

This it fuels first take and shows of that ilk ... it's just stupid tbh.
Colts still take Luck.
Maybe Bengals or Skins take Wilson over their QB's though ...

Obstructed_View

10-13-2014, 09:26 PM

This it fuels first take and shows of that ilk ... it's just stupid tbh.
Colts still take Luck.
Maybe Bengals or Skins take Wilson over their QB's though ...

I agree. Dude's definitely better than a third round pick, and that's what they should say. I'd be more likely to watch those morons discussing sports if it were reasonable.

DeadlyDynasty

10-13-2014, 09:28 PM

Whodathunk pocket-passing would be a jig's kryptonite? Life can be hard in the NFL when your homies aren't spotting you 30 points

Avante

10-14-2014, 10:59 AM

Russell Wilson is amazing and only a total moron wouldn't get this. To over react to....one.....game is what rookies do. Just ask Tom Brady.

Avante

10-14-2014, 09:36 PM

It really is comical how you guys act over..."one"....game, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking fun=kneeeeeee!

DeadlyDynasty

11-02-2014, 09:14 PM

He's fucking terrible. Sub-50% passing and sub-200 yds (AGAIN) against a winless Raider team at home. Carolina and Seattle have some pretty horrific years ahead of them

Malik Hairston

11-02-2014, 09:15 PM

Not sure what happened to Wilson, he has looked pretty terrible lately, tbh..

spurraider21

11-02-2014, 09:15 PM

his game should have been worse, 2 really easy INT's were dropped by Heart Surgery

DUNCANownsKOBE

11-02-2014, 09:16 PM

:lol just wait until his next SNF. He'll probably have a moment where Collinsworth calls him a "one read quarterback" and that'll be the ultimate kiss of death.

jimbo

11-02-2014, 11:25 PM

:cry

jimbo

11-02-2014, 11:26 PM

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:cry can't take this away faggots :cry

SanAntonioSpurs23

11-02-2014, 11:55 PM

He Fucking sucks. Once Lynch leaves next year that offense is going awful

Avante

11-03-2014, 12:58 AM

Ya can sure can tell the rookies, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a clue!

Clipper Nation

11-03-2014, 01:01 AM

It really is comical how you guys act over..."one"....game, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking fun=kneeeeeee!

How many consecutive weeks are you going to use the "it's only one game" excuse before you admit your boy's a scrub?

Avante

11-03-2014, 01:04 AM

How many consecutive weeks are you going to use the "it's only one game" excuse before you admit your boy's a scrub?

Would you like to compare his stats up to this point in a career to anyone else's at the same stage of a career? Well? How about wins?

Clipper Nation

11-03-2014, 01:06 AM

Would you like to compare his stats up to this point in a career to anyone else's at the same stage of a career? Well? How about wins?
Here's some stats for you:

Sub-50% passing and sub-200 yds (AGAIN) against a winless Raider team at home.
Struggle has been nothing but a game manager on a stacked team. When Lynch leaves/gets traded, Struggle's utter lack of a passing game is going to be exposed hard.

Avante

11-03-2014, 01:13 AM

Here's some stats for you:

Struggle has been nothing but a game manager on a stacked team. When Lynch leaves/gets traded, Struggle's utter lack of a passing game is going to be exposed hard.

Look at Philip Rivers today, he totally sucks....right?

Dude, all these guys have bad games, you really are a rookie huh? Stop over reacting to everything it makles ya look ridiculous...ok?

Smart move ignoring....wanna compare career stats with Hall of Famers?

Nobody has done more in their career after two years/8 games that Russell Wilson? Prove that statement wrong. What did Joe Montana after two years/8 games....well?

Clipper Nation

11-03-2014, 01:16 AM

Nobody has done more to manage the game in extremely mediocre fashion on a stacked team than Struggle Wilson. Matt Flynn could have won that Super Bowl.

Avante

11-03-2014, 01:19 AM

Nobody has done more to manage the game in extremely mediocre fashion on a stacked team than Struggle Wilson. Matt Flynn could have won that Super Bowl.

You mean...

Tying the rookie TD record

The only QB in NFL history to have a 100 passer rating their first two seasons.

Only QB in history to pass for 300 yards and run for 100 yard in a game.

No QB in history has won more games in the same time frame.

Stuff like that?

Dude, you crack me up little fella, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Philip Rivers looked terrible....today...he sucks!

Tell me shorty, what QB has done nore than Russell Wilson after 2 years/8 games......well?

Clipper Nation

11-03-2014, 01:26 AM

It's going to be hilarious to see your excuses when Struggle gets exposed even further without Lynch.

Avante

11-03-2014, 01:32 AM

It's going to be hilarious to see your excuses when Struggle gets exposed even further without Lynch.

When RW left college ball he was the all time NCAA passing efficiency leader.

In his rookie NFL season....throws for as many TD's anyone in NFL history.

In his second season he wins the SB.

And right now no QB in history has won more games in the same time period. And....he's done all that without a great TE, or receivers gang.

I'll say it again, what QB has done more in the same time frame.....well? WELL? WELL? WELL?

I'll say it again.....Philip Rivers totally sucked today, so he must suck....right?.

Try to talk back, ya know, conversation...ok little man?

Clipper Nation

11-03-2014, 01:33 AM

College stats mean nothing in the NFL. Struggle is a game managerPERIOD

Avante

11-03-2014, 01:36 AM

College stats mean nothing in the NFL. Struggle is a game managerPERIOD

Dummy, none of these guys are in the NFL without stellar NCAA stats. Wow~~~~~~~~~~

So tell me guy what QB did better after 2 seasons/8 games? Answer the question , ok?

spurraider21

11-03-2014, 01:37 AM

It's going to be hilarious to see your excuses when Struggle gets exposed even further without Lynch.
To be fair, they have arguably the worst receiving core in the NFC... not much better than St. Louis or Minnesota. Seattle has tried and failed repeatedly to bolster their receving core since the mid-2000's in Hasselbeck's prime. They failed with free agents like H:lolushmandzadeh, Sidney Rice and the Harvin trade was ultimately a dud for them (although he delivered in the SB).

Avante

11-03-2014, 01:59 AM

RW and this is up to date....

TD's...63/INT 22
Comp %..63.4
Passer rating...98.9

That is great, what's not to like? Now add...1.421 yards rushing.

Who do we need to compare that to? How about Joe Montana? His career comp %...63.2, his careeer passer rating...92.3. Now what's wrong with RW? And...RW started as a rookie, Montana didn't start until his third season.

Malik Hairston

11-03-2014, 02:04 AM

Avante

11-03-2014, 02:09 AM

^^ Not including today's game(which will hurt his numbers even more):

QBR: 13th
DYAR: 25th
DVOA: 30th

Last year, Russ ranked in the top 10 in all 3 categories..

He's been struggling this season, clearly..

They all struggle usually far sooner than he has. There is no QB in the Hall of Fame who had a better first 45ish games than RW. If you can think of one....who?

spurraider21

11-03-2014, 02:15 AM

^^ Not including today's game(which will hurt his numbers even more):

QBR: 13th
DYAR: 25th
DVOA: 30th

Last year, Russ ranked in the top 10 in all 3 categories..

He's been struggling this season, clearly..
he hasn't been able to push the ball downfield this season. he's always been elite at the escaping/dink-and-dunk stuff, but in his first 2 years he showed a very good deep ball as well. it's not like his arm has declined or anything, but we're seeing way less shots down the field. i dont think they have the horses tbh

Avante

11-03-2014, 02:22 AM

Peyton Manning in his first two seasons

rookie...comp % 56.9, TD's 26/INT 28, Rating...71.2

RW...rookie...64-1, TD's 26/INT 10 Rting....100.0

Peyton second year...

comp % 62.1, TD's 26/INT 15, Rating...90.7
RW....65.2, TD's 26/INT 9, Rating 101.2

He shit all over Peyton Manning.

Let me explain something to you guys...

RW came right out of college to start in his rookie season. That is not the norm. Look at Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, they didn't start as rookies. It does take a little time to become a great NFL QB. Russel Wilson has done things we've never seen before, how could anyone knock this guy and......why would you? The guy has won more games than anyone after 2 years/8 games. And some of you need to knock that.....why?

There is no QB who compares to him if we compare longevity vs comp%, QB rating, wins, TD's, lack of INT's., rushing yards.

Malik Hairston

11-03-2014, 02:45 AM

They all struggle usually far sooner than he has. There is no QB in the Hall of Fame who had a better first 45ish games than RW. If you can think of one....who?

All I said is that Wilson has struggled this season, I didn't say anything about his career accomplishments..

Avante

11-03-2014, 03:00 AM

All I said is that Wilson has struggled this season, I didn't say anything about his career accomplishments..

According to his season stats he hasn't struggled at all.

Malik Hairston

11-03-2014, 03:05 AM

According to his season stats he hasn't struggled at all.

According to advanced metrics, he has struggled, especially compared to previous years..

Avante

11-03-2014, 03:09 AM

According to advanced metrics, he has struggled, especially compared to previous years..

Too bad he doesn't have a Reggie Wayne/T.Y.Hilton to throw to, or maybe a Dez Bryant/Jason Witten...huh?

Malik Hairston

11-03-2014, 03:13 AM

Too bad he doesn't have a Reggie Wayne/T.Y.Hilton to throw to, or maybe a Dez Bryant/Jason Witten...huh?

I agree, his weapons are weak..that doesn't change what I said, though..

Avante

11-03-2014, 03:19 AM

I agree, his weapons are weak..that doesn't change what I said, though..

Check out what Tom Brady did in his third season? Hell, check out anyone with the same number of games. Get some real perspective here. RW is right there with all the greats. Check out how many INT's Peyton threw in his first three seasons.

This, look look he had a couple bad games, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on man, Peyton Manning threw ...28ints...his rookie season, RW still hasn't thrown 28 INT;s.

Raven

11-03-2014, 03:34 AM

Wilson is clearly struggling due to the absence of teamleader Breno Giacomini ... toldya tbh.. spurraider get in here and :spin this shit

spurraider21

11-03-2014, 03:50 AM

Wilson is clearly struggling due to the absence of teamleader Breno Giacomini ... toldya tbh.. spurraider get in here and :spin this shit
yeah his leadership is really helping those QB's on the Jets :lmao

Avante

12-23-2014, 07:20 AM

So how is RW doing now, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm hearing things like....

"time to include Russell Wilson in the mix when talking about the elite QB's"

Keep in mind if the Seahawks do make it to Arizona, the Seahawks are real familiar with that situation since they play there every year, the AFC team doesn't.

Avante

12-29-2014, 01:34 AM

Yep, the book is out, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

Vegas has the Seahawks favored to win it all.

They have the winning formula...

run the ball
monster D
great QB/coach combo

Floyd Pacquiao

12-29-2014, 02:01 AM

Yeah that Russell Wilson is really lighting up the league! He had a monster game today!
/sarcasm

Floyd Pacquiao

12-29-2014, 02:02 AM

Lol 0 tds and 1int today BTW

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:03 AM

Yeah that Russell Wilson is really lighting up the league! He had a monster game today!
/sarcasm

More wins in his first three seasons than any QB.....ever.

Floyd Pacquiao

12-29-2014, 02:08 AM

More wins in his first three seasons than any QB.....ever.
Thats cool. Winning games is a team accomplishment. His individual stats are meh tho, tbvh.

chunticakes

12-29-2014, 02:14 AM

Switch Wilson with pretty much any other decent game managing QB and Seattle still wins 30+ games.

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:17 AM

Thats cool. Winning games is a team accomplishment. His individual stats are meh tho, tbvh.

Ya mean that 63.3% career completion %? How about that career 98.9 passer rating? 72 TD's vs only 26 INT'S.

Do you know anything at all about this?

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:20 AM

Switch Wilson with pretty much any other decent game managing QB and Seattle still wins 30+ games.

Pete Carroll went....

8-8
7-9

Enter Russell Wilson

13-3
16-3 SB win
12-4 Number one seed

chunticakes

12-29-2014, 02:20 AM

Ya mean that 63.3% career completion %? How about that career 98.9 passer rating for a career? 72 TD's vs only 26 INT'S.

Do you know anything at all about this?

Yes, pretty much everyone agrees Wilson is the greatest game manager in the history of the NFL.

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:22 AM

Yes, pretty much everyone agrees Wilson is the greatest game manager in the history of the NFL.

That's better than being known as the greatest choker like Tony Romo.

Floyd Pacquiao

12-29-2014, 02:23 AM

20 TDs and 7 pics this year... Yep game manager

chunticakes

12-29-2014, 02:27 AM

That's better than being known as the greatest choker like Tony Romo.

I suppose. But lol @ you if you buy into whatever bullshit mainstream media spews. I'd rather have Romo despite all his flaws than Wilson. Have them trade places and Dallas doesn't get 12 wins.

What people fail to realize is that Romo has had to carry the Cowboys until this year. He's never had the luxaries Wilson has had.

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:30 AM

20 TDs and 7 pics this year... Yep game manager

Joe Montana had 8 seasons where he threw for less than 20 TD;s, yep....game manager....right?

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:32 AM

I suppose. But lol @ you if you buy into whatever bullshit mainstream media spews. I'd rather have Romo despite all his flaws than Wilson. Have them trade places and Dallas doesn't get 12 wins.

What people fail to realize is that Romo has had to carry the Cowboys until this year. He's never had the luxaries Wilson has had.

I don't give a shit what the mainstream media says, never have. Just watch RW play, he's amazing.

Don't run other QB's down then try to.....yeah but.....when it comes to Romo, ok?

Floyd Pacquiao

12-29-2014, 02:34 AM

Joe Montana had 8 seasons where he threw for less than 20 TD;s, yep....game manager....right?
Were his teams also dead last in passing stats like Wilson's are?

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:39 AM

Were his teams also dead last in passing stats like Wilson's are?

Don't know much about football do ya?

chunticakes

12-29-2014, 02:39 AM

Don't run other QB's down then try to.....yeah but.....when it comes to Romo, ok?

What?! That incoherent sentence...just lol.

Sometimes I wonder if you're a true Niner fan...what with Wilson's dick constantly down your throat.

Like I said, he's a good player. Best game manager of all time. I just find your love for him funny and misplaced.

Avante

12-29-2014, 02:46 AM

What?! That incoherent sentence...just lol.

Sometimes I wonder if you're a true Niner fan...what with Wilson's dick constantly down your throat.

Like I said, he's a good player. Best game manager of all time. I just find your love for him funny and misplaced.

You honestly saw that as incoherent? Why am I not surprised?

I go back to the days of JD Smith, when it comes to the Niners. Love my Niners!

I just know talent when I see it and have no need to act stupid over it like you are doing simply because he's our rival.

The guy is a great QB, only a blind man wouldn't see that.
http://cover32.com/seahawks/2014/07/07/stats-prove-russell-wilson-is-already-an-elite-quarterback/

Educate yourself dummy.

You do know I can take you to school talking Cowboys, right? We could start with Amos Marsh.

spurraider21

12-29-2014, 03:02 AM

I suppose. But lol @ you if you buy into whatever bullshit mainstream media spews. I'd rather have Romo despite all his flaws than Wilson. Have them trade places and Dallas doesn't get 12 wins.
why? dallas has a better run game, offensive line, and receiving core than seattle does :lol

Wilson would easily enjoy more individual/statistical success with the '14 cowboys than seahawks

What people fail to realize is that Romo has had to carry the Cowboys until this year. He's never had the luxaries Wilson has had.
and that's why the cowboys were mediocre as fuck in recent history, its not noteworthy to be carrying a team to mediocrity

Avante

12-29-2014, 10:40 AM

why? dallas has a better run game, offensive line, and receiving core than seattle does :lol

Wilson would easily enjoy more individual/statistical success with the '14 cowboys than seahawks

and that's why the cowboys were mediocre as fuck in recent history, its not noteworthy to be carrying a team to mediocrity

Nailed it~~~~~~~~~~~~~

So far RW has never played with a great TE/wide receiver. No Gronk/Dez type player.

The guy is the best combo of....pass/run/smarts...in the league.

Clipper Nation

12-29-2014, 10:45 AM

Romo > Struggle Wilson and it's not even close.

Pelicans78

12-29-2014, 10:55 AM

Avante

12-29-2014, 10:57 AM

Romo is easily better than RW. Not hard to see. Wilson is efficient, but he can be with that defense, running game, etc. Romo has had no defense to help the the last few years. Until this season, the o-line was average at best.

Compare Romo's first three years to Wilson's.

To all those who don't get this.....

You have to compare RW to what others did in their first three years, if ya do that then you'll see why this kid is great. Go ahead look at his first three seasons vs anyone.

Brazil

12-29-2014, 11:07 AM

Joe Montana had 8 seasons where he threw for less than 20 TD;s, yep....game manager....right?

what about comparing two totally different era :rolleyes

Pelicans78

12-29-2014, 11:08 AM

Compare Romo's first three years to Wilson's.

To all those who don't get this.....

You have to compare RW to what others did in their first three years, if ya do that then you'll see why this kid is great. Go ahead look at his first three seasons vs anyone.

Numbers don't tell the whole story. Have to look at supporting cast, coaching, etc.

I agree Seattle wouldn't be where they are without Wilson. Guy doesn't make any mistakes, can make plays with his feet when needed and has made the big throws to win games. But I still feel like Romo is the better overall QB at this point, especially passing. But he's been in the league for a long time as well. Wilson is still young and will get better every season.

Spur-Addict

12-29-2014, 11:10 AM

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Avante

12-29-2014, 11:10 AM

what about comparing two totally different era :rolleyes

How about comparing what wins Superbowls?

Avante

12-29-2014, 11:13 AM

Numbers don't tell the whole story. Have to look at supporting cast, coaching, etc.

I agree Seattle wouldn't be where they are without Wilson. Guy doesn't make any mistakes, can make plays with his feet when needed and has made the big throws to win games. But I still feel like Romo is the better overall QB at this point, especially passing. But he's been in the league for a long time as well. Wilson is still young and will get better every season.

Hell yes Romo is the better QB right now, but he wasn't after three seasons vs Russell's first three seasons.

RW is on a par with anyone who ever played the game after three NFL seasons.

Pelicans78

12-29-2014, 11:15 AM

I can't argue that. I'm just talking about who's better at this time.

Clipper Nation

12-29-2014, 11:15 AM

How about comparing what wins Superbowls?
More often than not in the past 20-30 years it's been transcendent quarterbacks. Occasionally you'll get fluky game managers like Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and Struggle Wilson riding the defense to a ring, but it's a LOT tougher to win a Super Bowl that way.

Avante

12-29-2014, 11:23 AM

More often than not in the past 20-30 years it's been transcendent quarterbacks. Occasionally you'll get fluky game managers like Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and Struggle Wilson riding the defense to a ring, but it's a LOT tougher to win a Super Bowl that way.

Dilfer had a 70.3 career passer rating, Johnson 82.5, RW has a gaudy 98.3. Now add his rushing numbers which as so far superior to those two it's ridiculous.

Terrible comparisions.

Brazil

12-29-2014, 11:24 AM

How about comparing what wins Superbowls?

how about sticking with your retarded comparaison of Montana 20 TDs and RW 20 TDs tbh ? and told us you talked out of your ass...

It's not like in 2014 nfl teams don't score much more TDs than in the 80-90's...

Avante

12-29-2014, 11:31 AM

how about sticking with your retarded comparaison of Montana 20 TDs and RW 20 TDs tbh ? and told us you talked out of your ass...

It's not like in 2014 nfl teams don't score much more TDs than in the 80-90's...

If you are working at being stupid you can stop, you are a smashing successs.

QB's do what their coaches tell them to do, ya with me on that? Who has been more successful doing that in their first three seasons than RW? The Seahawks know what wins.....beat the other team up.

RW is the most successful QB after three seasons than any QB in history, prove that statement wrong.

Avante

12-29-2014, 11:37 AM

Look at TD's/INT'S
Completion %
Passer Rating
Rushing yards
Wins

that RW has put up in his first three seasons vs anyone else, yep....Manning, Brady, Montana, Favre, Marino, Elway, Rodgers.

Tell me what you see.

Instead of everyone running their mouth, do what I asked. See what you find.

Brazil

12-29-2014, 11:40 AM

If you are working at being stupid you can stop, you are a smashing successs.

QB's do what their coaches tell them to do, ya with me on that? Who has been more successful doing that in their first three seasons than RW? The Seahawks know what wins.....beat the other team up.

RW is the most successful QB after three seasons than any QB in history, prove that statement wrong.

I don't need to prove you anything... stop playing stupid... I was reacting to that:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon2.png Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7753340#post7753340)
20 TDs and 7 pics this year... Yep game manager

Joe Montana had 8 seasons where he threw for less than 20 TD;s, yep....game manager....right?

First... I hope you are kidding with your 8 seasons unless you count seaons where he did not play or play 1 game.... shhhh
Second why you bring Montana and his seasons with less than 20 TDs to talk about RW when there is no comparaison to make ?

Brazil

12-29-2014, 11:41 AM

^I'm not even taking a jab at RW tbh... he is for me a very solid QB, plays mostly smart and a tremendous fit for Seahawks

Avante

12-29-2014, 11:45 AM

I don't need to prove you anything... stop playing stupid... I was reacting to that:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon2.png Originally Posted by Floyd Pacquiao (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7753340#post7753340)
20 TDs and 7 pics this year... Yep game manager

Joe Montana had 8 seasons where he threw for less than 20 TD;s, yep....game manager....right?

First... I hope you are kidding with your 8 seasons unless you count seaons where he did not play or play 1 game.... shhhh
Second why you bring Montana and his seasons with less than 20 TDs to talk about RW when there is no comparaison to make ?

Why ignore the fact nobody has been more success in their system than RW has been in his? Is he suppose to tell his coach...."I need to throw the ball more, this system is just winning SB's'....well? The guy is a master at making his coachs system work, just like Montana was in his system.

The guy does what he is asked to do as well as anyone. Nobody in league history has done it better in their first three seasons.

The guy left the college game as the all time NCAA passing efficiency leader. What's that tell us? How about...."whatever system I'm in I will be a success".

Brazil

12-29-2014, 11:50 AM

Why ignore the fact nobody has been more success in their system than RW has been in his? Is he suppose to tell his coach...."I need to throw the ball more, this system is just winning SB's'....well? The guy is a master at making his coachs system work, just like Montana was in his system.

The guy does what he is asked to do as well as anyone. Nobody in league history has done it better in their first three seasons.

The guy left the college game as the all time NCAA passing efficiency leader. What's that tell us? How about...."whatever system I'm in I will bea success".

Dude, really ?

again... I'm not arguing with that... duh

Avante

12-29-2014, 11:56 AM

Dude, really ?

again... I'm not arguing with that... duh

Yep....duh!!!!!!!!!!

The bottom line in all sports is.....winning......ok? Who has won more games in their first three seasons than RW, yep...NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go ahead look at any HOF QB then compare their first three seasons to RW's, go ahead. Tell me what you see.

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:14 PM

I'll try again.....

Look at RW's...

TD'S vs INT's
rushing yards
wins
completion %
passer rating

...in his first three seasons vs anyone else in their first three seasons.

Come on shut me up, put me in my place. There is no QB in league history who has had a better first three years than this guy, go ahead try and prove that statement wrong. Go ahead give it a try.

Little people...

The guy is part of a team his job is to win football games, he is there to do what his coach asks of him. He has done that better than any QB in history in their first three seasons. That is a .....FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brazil

12-29-2014, 12:14 PM

Yep....duh!!!!!!!!!!

The bottom line in all sports is.....winning......ok? Who has won more games in their first three seasons than RW, yep...NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go ahead look at any HOF QB then compare their first three seasons to RW's, go ahead. Tell me what you see.

you know what old senile ? discuss with yourself...

if you actually were reading what I wrote you would realize your replies don't make any sense

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:18 PM

you know what old senile ? discuss with yourself...

if you actually were reading what I wrote you would realize your replies don't make any sense

What doesn't make any sense is anyone trying to debate the success RW has had in his first three seasons. Why???

How much more successful could he have been?

Raven

12-29-2014, 12:20 PM

wilson has been terrible this year tbh, no longer worthy of the title best game manager, he was just ass and run team viceleader harvin away from the team and is set to run teamleader lynch away in the offseason.

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:21 PM

Still waiting for somebody to give me that QB who had a better first three seasons than RW.

Come on peope, who was that?

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:26 PM

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:27 PM

So many rookies here, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at this guys....FIRST THREE SEASONS....ok? Now tell me who had a better...FIRST THREE SEASONS...ok?

Come on people.

He has a great chance of winning two SB's in his first three years. Who can say that?

RW...ya think we could throw the ball more?
Pete....why?
RW...hmmmm....good point.

Remember

no rookie QB threw more td passes ever
no two year QB ever had a higher passer rating
nobody ever passed for over 300 and rushed for over a 100 in a game but RW
nobody has won more games in their first three seasons

Raven

12-29-2014, 12:38 PM

Compare his passer rating to Tom Brady this season.

have you ever watched a game?

Raven

12-29-2014, 12:39 PM

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:43 PM

have you ever watched a game?

Like in watching Babe Parilli throwing to Gino Capelletti when they were the Boston Patriots? Dude....

Remember Larry Garron?

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:44 PM

they have tried, didn't work, went back to lynch.

When did this happen?

Brazil

12-29-2014, 12:44 PM

What doesn't make any sense is anyone trying to debate the success RW has had in his first three seasons. Why???

How much more successful could he have been?

who is debating his success ? me ? duh... I'm no debating his success... got it now ?

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:46 PM

who is debating his success ? me ? duh... I'm no debating his success... got it now ?

What else matters?

Hey guys you're winning too many football games, ya need to change things. Hahahaha~~~~~~

Avante

12-29-2014, 12:56 PM

One more time!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take...

Johnny Unitas
"Slingin' " Sammy Baugh
Otto Graham
Joe Montana
Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Steve Young
Tom Brady
Warren Moon
Tony Romo/Eddie LeBaron/Don Meredith/Roger Staubach/Troy Aikman
Kenny "The Snake" Stabler/Daryl "The Mad Bomber" Lamonica
John Elway
Drew Brees
Big Ben
Joe Namath
"Jefferson Street" Joe Gillium
Marlon "The Magican" Briscoe
Bart Starr
Fran Tarkenton
Jim Kemp
Tobin Rote
Len Dawson
Jim Kelly
Andrew Luck
Tim Tebow
Norm Van Brocklin
Sid Luckman
Bob Waterfield
Bobby Layne
Y.A.Tittle
Vinny Testerverde
George Mira
Hell.............................Roman Gabriel!!!!!!!!!

Jeff Garcia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....and compare their first three seasons to RW.

Come on people, show me the guy who had a better first three seasons. All I see is a bunch of rookies without a clue.

Give this guy, Franco Harris, John Stallworth, Lynn Swann and that Steeler D and what's he doing? Give him DeMarco Murray, Jason Witten and Dez Bryant, now what? Give him Roger Craig, Bert Jones, John Taylor and Jerry Rice....well?

Does anyone out there know a damn thing about pro football?

Johnny Unitas is considered one of the best QB's ever. Nobody talks about the fact he had a Hall of Fame TE/WR/RB.

Bart Starr played on a team with 8 other future HOFers, so what.....right? Terry Bradshaw played on a team with 8 other future HOFers, so what.

Russell Wilson hasn't even had a pro bowl receiver.

Avante

12-29-2014, 01:17 PM

This is comical to be honest.

Everyone running the guy down yet nobody able to come up with anyone who did it better in their first three seasons, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Talk about rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

First season...13-4 playoff win
Second season....16-3 Superbowl win~!
Third season....12-4 Number one seed

What more could he have done? Who has done more in their first three seasons.....well?

Bottom line.....41-11 Superbowl Champs, maybe Two Time Superbowl champs.

Avante

12-29-2014, 01:30 PM

Clubber.....yes Avante but he needs to throw more.
Avante...why?
Clubber...well, ah, hmmmm? he just does.
Avante...didn't Drew Brees throw for almost 5000 this season, where did that get him?
Clubber....yes but, ah, hmmmm?
Avante....you do what wins, right?
Clubber...well yes but, ah, hmmmmm?

Avante

12-29-2014, 01:32 PM

So there is nobody who did it better in their first three seasons.

Done~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~

chunticakes

12-29-2014, 07:41 PM

Lol you like talking to yourself don't you? Most people here acknowledge Wilson as a good to great player. You're just adamant about pumping him up and putting down other QBs for some reason.

Avante

12-30-2014, 02:46 AM

Lol you like talking to yourself don't you? Most people here acknowledge Wilson as a good to great player. You're just adamant about pumping him up and putting down other QBs for some reason.

I must have misunderstood.....

Lol, you tom ass cornball. Book is out Wilson dickriders. Just set the edge, stay disciplined and contain him and he cant do shit. Lol 14-28 for 100yds. Faggot should've had like 3 picks too :lol

Avante

12-30-2014, 11:27 AM

After the Seahawks make it to another SB, and RW plays a major role in getting them there, I'll be having a lot of fun.

Peyton Manning first three years

TD/INT....83/58

completion %

56.7
62.1
62.5

passer rating

71.2
90.7
94.7

Russell Wilson first three seasons

TD/INT...72/26

completion %

64.1
63.1
63.1

passer rating

100.0
101.2
95.0

Hmmmmm?

I challenge anyone to find any QB with a higher combined first three seasons passer rating. Go ahead show me one.

Joe Montana never saw a 90.0 rating in his first three seasons. While Marino had an amazing second season his three season average below RW's.

We are witniessing the best first three seasons any QB has ever had, how you guys can't get this....???????????

chunticakes

12-30-2014, 02:16 PM

Great, great, game manager, tbh.

spurraider21

12-30-2014, 04:29 PM

Great, great, game manager, tbh.
big to differ :lol

http://i.imgur.com/L7L915s.jpg?3

Avante

12-30-2014, 10:15 PM

Great, great, game manager, tbh.

Damn you're dumb.

chunticakes

12-31-2014, 03:25 PM

Damn you're dumb.

See why everyone hates you? Its impossible to have a civil discussion with you. Its either you're right or everyone else is an idiot.

Lol at the end of the day its subjective. Its just football. You can defend Russell Wilson all you want but he wouldn't pee on you if you were on fire. So R-E-L-A-X hhmmm????

unleashbaynes

12-31-2014, 04:57 PM

spurraider21

12-31-2014, 06:00 PM

corps.....it's receiving corps......
:cry

unleashbaynes

12-31-2014, 07:10 PM

:cry

sorry....just seen so many people spell it like that, figured id correct it for once.

spurraider21

12-31-2014, 07:21 PM

sorry....just seen so many people spell it like that, figured id correct it for once.
I'd... it's I'd

unleashbaynes

12-31-2014, 07:36 PM

I'd... it's I'd

:rolleyes

Avante

01-02-2015, 11:51 AM

See why everyone hates you? Its impossible to have a civil discussion with you. Its either you're right or everyone else is an idiot.

Lol at the end of the day its subjective. Its just football. You can defend Russell Wilson all you want but he wouldn't pee on you if you were on fire. So R-E-L-A-X hhmmm????

Talk like a mature intelligent football fan and we're cool.

Clipper Nation

01-02-2015, 12:00 PM

Talk like a mature intelligent football fan and we're cool.
What happened to Alabama, old faggot? Thought they were winning it all? :lol

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

01-02-2015, 12:01 PM

So there is nobody who did it better in their first three seasons.

Done~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~

Newton

Brazil

01-02-2015, 12:06 PM

Newton

:lmao

Avante

01-02-2015, 12:39 PM

What happened to Alabama, old faggot? Thought they were winning it all? :lol

I once said something about what Russell Wilson did at Wisconsin here, what did you tell me? How about.."this is an NFL board".....so what happened?

Avante

01-02-2015, 12:40 PM

Newton

Do I really have to show you the stats proving that wrong?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

01-02-2015, 01:22 PM

:lmao
Hmm this guy wasn't laughing at Newton in week 2... Demolished that defense

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

01-02-2015, 01:22 PM

Do I really have to show you the stats proving that wrong?
Yes. First three years

Avante

01-02-2015, 01:24 PM

Yes. First three years

I will but later.

313

01-02-2015, 04:57 PM

Hmm this guy wasn't laughing at Newton in week 2... Demolished that defense
:lol 7-8-1

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

01-02-2015, 05:00 PM

:lol 7-8-1
We will make it further than you, have a home game, and beat you head to head. And won our division. Far more productive year for us.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

01-02-2015, 05:01 PM

By the way our record is 0-0 playboy.

or 4-0 in December :p

313

01-02-2015, 05:05 PM

We will make it further than you, have a home game, and beat you head to head. And won our division. Far more productive year for us.

Winning your division while going less than. 500 isn't something to brag about. Meanwhile the Lions went 11-5

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

01-02-2015, 05:06 PM

Winning your division while going less than. 500 isn't something to brag about. Meanwhile the Lions went 11-5
Records don't matter anymore. Carolina is hot, and have a home game. Coasted until December son.

Avante

01-03-2015, 01:32 PM

There is no need to bother comparing Newtons first three seasons vs RW's, it's not even close. RW in a landslide.

If we look at....

wins
TDs/INTs
completion %
passer rating
rushing yards

there is nobody in league history who compares to RW after three seasons, that is a fact.

Passing yards is always misleading, being behind and having to throw the ball.....nay!

This...yes but he plays on a great team....well so did Hall of Famers Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Otto Graham etc etc.

Avante

01-06-2015, 04:31 AM

Imagine if the league didn't have the book on Russell Wilson, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So many times in all football games there is a wide gap between the rushers and the pass defenders. A guy who can really run like a Russell Wilson just needs to make one big lineman miss and it's 10=15 yards clear sailing. Nobody does this better than RW, the master at it.

If the Seahawks do win another SB, RW will be the only QB in history to win two SB's in his first three seasons. Adding to his list of firsts...

Most wins
only QB with a 100 passer rating his first two seasons
Rookie TD record (with Peyton)
300 yard passer/100 yard rusher in the same game

spurraider21

01-10-2015, 11:53 PM

:cry book is out

Pelicans78

01-11-2015, 12:08 AM

This was the best game I've seen him play since last year's NFC Title game. Panthers blitzing was a big reason why as well since their secondary got exposed.

spurraider21

01-11-2015, 12:09 AM

This was the best game I've seen him play since last year's NFC Title game. Panthers blitzing was a big reason why as well since their secondary got exposed.
he had a couple of monster games this year, but the best passing performance i've seen from him came against you guys last year in the regular season. can't remember if it was sunday or monday but it was a night game

Pelicans78

01-11-2015, 12:16 AM

he had a couple of monster games this year, but the best passing performance i've seen from him came against you guys last year in the regular season. can't remember if it was sunday or monday but it was a night game

It was a Monday Night game and the Saints got torched. They somehow figured out things by the time the rematch occurred in the playoffs since Wilson and the offense only managed 277 yards. Lynch ran for 140 yards which was the difference.

spurraider21

01-11-2015, 12:39 AM

It was a Monday Night game and the Saints got torched. They somehow figured out things by the time the rematch occurred in the playoffs since Wilson and the offense only managed 277 yards. Lynch ran for 140 yards which was the difference.
yeah wilson was pretty bad in the playoff matchup, and he didn't play all that great in the NFC title game either, but he did make huge timely plays in that one, including the game winning TD on a 4th down play

Avante

01-11-2015, 12:41 AM

The book is out on Russell Wilson, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there was a book it would read...

A born leader, who knows how to lead other men to victory. A great runner and passer, a guy who rarely makes a mistake. His decision making second to none. The total package who will only get better.

Clipper Nation

01-18-2015, 04:28 PM

:lmao Struggle Wilson doing his best Joe Webb impression.

chunticakes

01-18-2015, 04:30 PM

If Russell Wilson wins another SB that will put him all alone in the....

Most wins after three seasons
Most SB wins after first three seasons
Only 300 passer/100 yard rusher in a game
highest first three year passer rating average

club.

An amazing athlete taking the game to another level and only idiots and fools don't see this.

We all know when watching Andrew Luck you are thinking.....ok, when does he throw that INT...that isn't the case with RW.

SupremeGuy

01-18-2015, 04:36 PM

game manager getting exposed lol avante with a shitty opinion per par lol nothing new

Robz4000

01-18-2015, 04:36 PM

:lmao Avante is arguably the worst sports mind of all time

chunticakes

01-18-2015, 04:39 PM

Life can be hard in the NFL when your homies aren't spotting you 30 points, tbh.

spurraider21

01-18-2015, 05:52 PM

:lol i cant defend this shit

jeebus

01-18-2015, 05:53 PM

http://i.imgur.com/9PCF2LD.png

lefty

02-01-2015, 10:53 PM

Lol, you tom ass cornball. Book is out Wilson dickriders. Just set the edge, stay disciplined and contain him and he cant do shit. Lol 14-28 for 100yds. Faggot should've had like 3 picks too :lol
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/64/6494d9a65195279d35717e6d97375037c34660e076011dc05b cc67011a212df0.jpg

lefty

02-01-2015, 10:54 PM

book's been out for awhile but for some dumbass reason they went away from Lynch, that made no fucking sense.
:wow

Floyd Pacquiao

02-01-2015, 10:55 PM

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/64/6494d9a65195279d35717e6d97375037c34660e076011dc05b cc67011a212df0.jpg
http://oi42.tinypic.com/1411j53.jpg

Avante

02-01-2015, 10:58 PM

:lmao Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) is arguably the worst sports mind of all time

That same Avante who said...watch this Russell Wilson kid, he's going to be special....BOOM!..wins the SB nd plays in another one before he's 27.

What an idiot!

Robz4000

02-02-2015, 12:24 AM

That same Avante who said...watch this Russell Wilson kid, he's going to be special....BOOM!..wins the SB nd plays in another one before he's 27.

What an idiot!

Because he got to play game manager on a stacked team. Good call!

Clipper Nation

02-02-2015, 12:35 AM

That same Avante who said...watch this Russell Wilson kid, he's going to be special....BOOM!..wins the SB nd plays in another one before he's 27.

What an idiot!
:lol You probably also thought Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were going to be "special."

Avante

02-02-2015, 07:28 AM

:lol You probably also thought Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson were going to be "special."

Why make shit up faggot? You talk about Dilfer more than anyone here.

RW has done more than I thought he'd do, I thought it would take some time like Andrew Luck or Joe Flacco. Didn't expect to kid to...zoom-Superbowl. zoom-Superbowl. Wow!

How many SB's has Rivers been in, oh yeah....none..hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!