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Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 08:17 PM
:smokin

Barnes gets out message to generate NBA interest
By SAM AMICK
August 24, 2005


http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/basketball/article/0,1406,KNS_629_4030029,00.html

Some NBA players can job-shop without a résumé.

The league's general managers know their names and their games the way they know their own payroll, with no need for sales pitches of "Here's what Ray Allen can do for you ... "

And then there are players like Matt Barnes.

For as much progress as Barnes has made in his two seasons, and for as productive as his 43 games as a Sacramento King were before he was sent to Philadelphia in the Chris Webber trade in February, the free agent still is a commodity in need of not only a job, but an explanation.

So a few weeks back, Barnes' agent, Bill Neff, sent an e-mail to every general manager in the league, hoping to educate the masses as to what his guy could bring to the floor. It was a detailed comparison of Barnes to other youthful forwards, making a convincing argument Barnes could be as valuable as those players who make so much more money.

Rebounds, assists and steals were prorated on a per-48-minutes basis, with Barnes looking every bit as productive as players like Chicago's Luol Deng, Dallas' Josh Howard or Charlotte's Gerald Wallace.

"I think people were real surprised at how high he was in those categories," Neff said. "I wanted people to understand the essence of Matt."

Below the blockbuster deals - i.e. Shaquille O'Neal's $100 million deal or Allen's for $85 million - are the negotiations that involve players still looking to secure their long-term future. Barnes merely is among the masses, with an immediate goal of becoming the next Bobby Simmons. The Milwaukee forward is the new poster boy for untapped potential, someone for young players not named LeBron to emulate.

After a short stint in the National Basketball Development League, Simmons turned in three quiet seasons with Washington and the Los Angeles Clippers, where he and Barnes competed for the same spot. Then came Simmons' breakout season, which led to his signing a five-year, $47 million contract with Milwaukee in early August. Barnes can relate only to the tougher part of the journey, having played in the American Basketball Association and NBDL out of UCLA before signing with the Clippers in 2003.

"You look at (Simmons), and say 'My God, the guy got an opportunity for one year, and he gets $47 million,' " Neff said. "You just roll your eyes, and say, 'OK, how can I get my guy into a position to do the same?'"

The league's new amnesty rule has done little to speed up the free-agent process. Eighteen players were waived as part of the cost-cutting measure, which allows teams a one-time chance to take a player's contract off the books for luxury-tax purposes while still paying his salary. This has flooded the free-agent pool, forcing teams to wade through amnestied types such as Michael Finley and Aaron McKie before turning to Plan B players such as Barnes.

With Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie making it clear he plans to limit the roster to 13 players and with only one spot remaining, the pending departure of guard Maurice Evans to Detroit only helps Barnes' case, as would the exodus of restricted free-agent forward Darius Songaila.

San Antonio is Barnes' priority this week, though, as his campaign trail has taken him to Texas for a Spurs workout since Monday. Neff said the Spurs and Kings remain atop the list of interest. Neff said he hasn't heard from Petrie lately, which isn't necessarily a bad indication. Asked recently about Barnes, Petrie said simply, "We'll have to wait and see how things play out."

"I don't think the Kings have backed off," Neff said. "Geoff's never been a guy that leaps at things. I know how Geoff operates. I think Matt (would be) a late addition to their lineup."

An addition that says he can knock down open jumpers as never before. The latest lesson for Barnes has been the unavoidable reality of the NBA: Scoring rules all. For all the defense, rebounding and intangibles he brings, Barnes' shooting (41.1 percent for the Kings) long has been the weak spot that made general managers nervous.

So while Barnes sat fully healthy on the 76ers' injured list last season, he worked with Webber's shooting coach, Buzz Braman, removing a hitch in his shot that had been there since childhood. Since returning to Sacramento in the offseason, he has been working daily with another specialist, Guss Armstead, as well.

"I've worked for hours and hours and hours," Barnes said. "I've been shooting wrong for 23 years, so it's basically like learning how to walk again. But I've got it down now. I'm coming into my own.

"I bring a lot of intensity, versatility, rebounding, defense. It's not so much who will give me the most money, just the best opportunity. I feel like I'm a year or two away from making something happen and being set for life financially."

Let the selling continue.

BadlyDrawnBoy
08-25-2005, 08:23 PM
Kori?

Who did/do you want more at SF?

Jones or Barnes?

missmyzte
08-25-2005, 08:25 PM
I like Barnes, he's a great guy. I'd love to see him sign in SA.

Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 08:26 PM
Kori?

Who did/do you want more at SF?

Jones or Barnes?

Hmm... Because of Barnes being from my alma mater and watching him more often, probably Barnes. But basketball wise, they are close to the same level - good athletes with the potential to be solid role players. Jones is a better perimeter shooter. Barnes is a better defender.

I know that the Spurs wanted Barnes last year and were disappointed not to get him. So I was hoping he'd get another long look again this summer.

BadlyDrawnBoy
08-25-2005, 08:34 PM
It would be cool if a player with the tatoo "Sac Towns Finest" played on the Spurs. :lmao


I'm sure he can get that C altered to a Y.

BadlyDrawnBoy
08-25-2005, 08:38 PM
Tony/Brent/Beno
Manu/Finley/Brown
Bruce/Barnes
Tim/Horry
Nazr/Oberto

Now that's nice.

ace3g
08-25-2005, 08:39 PM
what was barnes on the injured list for and it is good to see that he has been working on his shooting(shows maturity like tony parker is doing)

boutons
08-25-2005, 08:41 PM
Sounds like Barnes thinks he can start in a couple of years, so he's looking for that opportunity. Would the opportunity chez les Spurs be the imminent fadeout of Bruce?

BadlyDrawnBoy
08-25-2005, 08:42 PM
Does anyone know how he did on defense when he played?

Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 08:54 PM
Does anyone know how he did on defense when he played?

He's a good defender already. Not a great one, but good. He's extremely scrappy and works very hard. He's got a great attitude and he's got the tools to be a solid role player in the league.

mookie2001
08-25-2005, 08:56 PM
Kori whats the capital of Zaire?

Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 09:02 PM
Kori whats the capital of Zaire?

Kinshasa; changed its name from Leopoldville in 1964. Founded by the explorer Henry Morton Stanley in 1887.

:smokin

Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 09:25 PM
Maurice is way better at a similar height. And I dont think Barnes is 235.

:lol

Maurice is 6'4. Barnes is 6'7.

Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 09:27 PM
Evans would have filled the role of a Devin Brown replacement .. but not as a long small forward that the Spurs were looking for. Barnes' body style is very similar to Bowen .. though he might carry a little more weight. My guess is Barnes is about 6'7, 215.

They will look to get a long small forward even if they keep Devin.

Kori Ellis
08-25-2005, 09:32 PM
To clarify heights, Chicago pre-draft camp measurements (without shoes, with shoes)

Matt Barnes, 6-6 3/4, 6-8
Maurice Evans, 6-4, 6-5 1/4

SenorSpur
08-25-2005, 10:01 PM
Boy, how good would Josh Howard have looked in a Spurs uniform. Any ideas as to why the Spurs passed him over (against Pop's wishes)?

Dex
08-25-2005, 10:12 PM
Boy, how good would Josh Howard have looked in a Spurs uniform. Any ideas as to why the Spurs passed him over (against Pop's wishes)?

Basically, so they could manage the financial flexibility to keep Parker and Ginobili in San Antonio.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17487

Ask and ye shall receive.

SenorSpur
08-25-2005, 10:38 PM
Basically, so they could manage the financial flexibility to keep Parker and Ginobili in San Antonio.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17487

Ask and ye shall receive.

Thanks for posting this Dex.

Strangely enough, I replied to that post. Even though I was able to follow the sequence of events as to why the Spurs passed on Howard, it's still painful to watch him blossom in the Mavs organization and not ours.

JUUOT
08-26-2005, 08:15 AM
So latest news is that it will be Finley or Brown for the spurs next season which is totally fine with me.

so the next question would have been whose next wing? Since yesterday i decided i was sold on barnes.
He would be perfect fit now cause he would be able to slowly grow for a season and really be the bowen replacement we ve been searching. having him would let POP cut a little bowen minutes (he is one of the spurs logging the more playing time) helping him with fresher leg and greater intensity

What worries me is Barnes desperate to play for SAC and they also have a spot left. however, contrary to SA i do not think a starting job (or minutes) will open in the next 2 years (shareef - peja - bonzi). Spurs have been following this guy and it should count. especially after what happend last season (trade) spurs i hope will do what they could not last year.


:smokin

"I bring a lot of intensity, versatility, rebounding, defense. It's not so much who will give me the most money, just the best opportunity. I feel like I'm a year or two away from making something happen and being set for life financially."


he is already sold on being a replacement for one or 2 season and then take bowen place perfect

VOTE FOR BARNES
VOTE FOR BARNES
VOTE FOR BARNES
VOTE FOR BARNES
VOTE FOR BARNES

td4mvp3
08-26-2005, 09:16 AM
i hope we get this guy, i always liked him in sacto.

waly.mg
08-26-2005, 10:24 AM
BURNS

TheTruth
08-26-2005, 10:46 AM
how much do expect him to command?

JUUOT
08-26-2005, 12:52 PM
he was a minimum player and did not play at all in philadelphia.
sacramento has no more than minimum to offer (salary cap trouble).
I think 2 years/2 million should be the max offer he could get.
it would give rights to spurs to retain him in two years to become the # replacement with decent salary
a 2 years 1.8 would be perfect

slayermin
08-26-2005, 05:56 PM
I recall watching a couple of Bruin games with him in it. He was sort of athletic, if I remember correctly.

I like this pickup, if it happens.

Dex
08-26-2005, 05:58 PM
BURNS

They are saying "Boo-urns!"

Mr. Peabody
08-26-2005, 06:13 PM
They are saying "Boo-urns!"

I was saying Boo-urns

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SequSpur
08-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Matt Barnes Blows.