The Top 10 (or so) QB's in major statistical categories, so far...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Passing yds:

1. Andrew Luck
2. Matt Ryan
3. Philip Rivers
4. Jay Cutler
5. Nick Foles
6. Joe Flacco
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Matthew Stafford
9. Drew Brees
10. Kirk Cousins
11. Peyton Manning
12. Tony Romo
13. Colin Kaepernick*
14. Tom Brady
15. Aaron Rodgers
16. Austin Davis
17. Eli Manning
18. Ryan Fitzpatrick

Passing TDs:

1. Andrew Luck
2. Peyton Manning
3. Philip Rivers
4. Aaron Rodgers
5. Jay Cutler
6. Matt Ryan
7. Joe Flacco
8. Tony Romo
9. Eli Manning
10. Tom Brady
11. Colin Kaepernick*
12. Nick Foles
13. Kirk Cousins
14. Drew Brees
15. Ben Roethlisberger
16. Alex Smith
17. Ryan Tannehill
18. Derek Carr

YPA

1. Philip Rivers
2. Kirk Cousins
3. Andy Dalton
4. Brian Hoyer
5. Peyton Manning
6. Ryan Fitzpatrick
7. Tony Romo
8. Matt Ryan
9. Colin Kaepernick*
10. Andrew Luck

QB Rating:

1. Philip Rivers
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Peyton Manning
4. Carson Palmer
5. Tony Romo
6. Russell Wilson: 28th in the league in attempts, avg's <200 yds passing/game. No full-time starter in the league has less attempts.
7. Andrew Luck
8. Brian Hoyer
9. Andy Dalton
10. Joe Flacco

%:

1. Philip Rivers
2. Drew Brees
3. Tony Romo
4. Andy Dalton
5. Jay Cutler
6. Blake Bortles
7. Peyton Manning
8. Andrew Luck
9. Russell Wilson: see above
10. Ben Roethlisberger
11. Eli Manning
12. Ryan Fitzpatrick
13. Aaron Rodgers
14. Carson Palmer
15. Colin Kaepernick*
16. Austin Davis
17. Matt Ryan
18. Joe Flacco
19. Alex Smith
20. Tom Brady
21. Matthew Stafford

Sacks taken (minimum 5 starts):

1. Derek Carr
2. Drew Brees
3. Brian Hoyer
4. Peyton Manning
5. Kirk Cousins
6. Nick Foles
7. Joe Flacco
8. Andrew Luck
9. Philip Rivers
10. Ryan Tannehill
11. Matt Ryan
12. Ryan Fitzpatrick
13. Tony Romo
14. Blake Bortles


*halfbreed

[DeadlyDynasty]

Team winning %'s:

1. Chargers
2. Cowboys
3. Eagles
4. Broncos
5. Cardinals
6. Bengals
7. Colts
8. Ravens
9. Packers
10. Patriots
11. Lions
12. 49ers

[benefactor]

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[Malik Hairston]

QBR

1. Rivers
2. Manning
3. Rodgers
4. Romo
5. Luck
6. Palmer
7. Hoyer
8. Manning
9. Flacco
10. Cutler
11. Brady
12. Newton
13. Kaepernick
14. Foles
15. Dalton
16. Ryan

DVOA

1. Rivers
2. Manning
3. Rodgers
4. Flacco
5. Luck
6. Dalton
7. Hoyer
8. Ryan
9. Palmer
10. Newton
11. Romo
12. Brees
13. Kaepernick
14. Smith
15. Cutler
16. Brady

[Chinook]

What's DVOA?

[Robz4000]

Damn, not looking too good for our simian friends...

[Avante]

If we look at what we see in the NCAA, we could have a final 4 with nothing but black QB's.

MSU
Auburn
ND
FSU

Now add...

UCLA
Ohio State
Alabama
TCU

All having black QB's. And there are tons more of them out there. Obviously the NCAA the farm system for the NFL.

The mobile QB is where football is heading as is the smaller quicker d linemen.

My experience with watching black QB's since the days of Marlon "The Magician" Briscoe is that they know they don't have to stand there and take it. Peyton/Brady know they ...must...throw the ball, they can't run (rare). While RW/Kaerpernick know that isn't the case with them. So we don't see them looking at all their options before bailing.

A Russell Wilson is the most potent weapon on an offense, the guy can't be defended because he isn't stuck in the pocket. As we have seen he has done things never done before by anyone at his stage of a career.

[Malik Hairston]

^^ Russell Wilson is one of the best game managers I have ever seen, but he's having a terrible season, so far..

[Malik Hairston]

What's DVOA?

"DVOA is a method of evaluating teams, units, or players. It takes every single play during the NFL season and compares each one to a league-average baseline based on situation. DVOA measures not just yardage, but yardage towards a first down: Five yards on third-and-4 are worth more than five yards on first-and-10 and much more than five yards on third-and-12. Red zone plays are worth more than other plays. Performance is also adjusted for the quality of the opponent. DVOA is a percentage, so a team with a DVOA of 10.0% is 10 percent better than the average team, and a quarterback with a DVOA of -20.0% is 20 percent worse than the average quarterback. Because DVOA measures scoring, defenses are better when they are negative"

It has your Ravens as the 2nd best team in the NFL atm, fyi..

[Chinook]

"DVOA is a method of evaluating teams, units, or players. It takes every single play during the NFL season and compares each one to a league-average baseline based on situation. DVOA measures not just yardage, but yardage towards a first down: Five yards on third-and-4 are worth more than five yards on first-and-10 and much more than five yards on third-and-12. Red zone plays are worth more than other plays. Performance is also adjusted for the quality of the opponent. DVOA is a percentage, so a team with a DVOA of 10.0% is 10 percent better than the average team, and a quarterback with a DVOA of -20.0% is 20 percent worse than the average quarterback. Because DVOA measures scoring, defenses are better when they are negative"

It has your Ravens as the 2nd best team in the NFL atm, fyi..

Thanks. A big reason why the Ravens are ranked so high might be because of the Tampa game. Flacco's first three touchdowns were on third-down plays. The team also converted a lot of long downs, which I imagine that stat loves.

I doubt that their ranking in that stat gets appreciably worse the next two weeks against the Falcons and Steelers, but it'll probably start to drop when the Ravens play tougher defenses starting with the Cinci game.

[Malik Hairston]

Thanks. A big reason why the Ravens are ranked so high might be because of the Tampa game. Flacco's first three touchdowns were on third-down plays. The team also converted a lot of long downs, which I imagine that stat loves.

I doubt that their ranking in that stat gets appreciably worse the next two weeks against the Falcons and Steelers, but it'll probably start to drop when the Ravens play tougher defenses starting with the Cinci game.

Ya, the sample size is pretty small at this point, it usually gets more accurate around week 10 IIRC..

Schedules skew the results, at this point, like you said..

[Avante]

^^ Russell Wilson is one of the best game managers I have ever seen, but he's having a terrible season, so far..

No he's not.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

No he's not.

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[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

No he's not.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Russell has the skills to be more than a game manager.

[Kool Bob Love]

Wilson only shows out in the playoffs. Nerds care about regular season numbers.

[Avante]

Wilson only shows out in the playoffs. Nerds care about regular season numbers.

The rookie TD record, regular season. Most wins by any second year QB, regular season. Highest two year QBR rating....regular season. Try knowing about what you "trying' to talk about..ok?

[Kool Bob Love]

^
Hey young fella im on your "side"....


"At the end of the day, it's not about statistics," Wilson told NFL Media's Amber Theoharis in an interview Monday on NFL Total Access. "I think, at the end of the day, it's about winning football games, and we do a great job. We still take the ball to the right guy at the right time. We try to have a physical running game. In the division that we play in, we have to be physical."


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000365154/article/seahawks-russell-wilson-its-about-wins-not-stats

[Kool Bob Love]

The rookie TD record, regular season. Most wins by any second year QB, regular season. Highest two year QBR rating....regular season. Try knowing about what you "trying' to talk about..ok?

Superbowl champion. Don't sell him short. GOD already tried. Didn't work.

[spurraider21]

Wilson is playing fine this year, but he had a terrible game against Dallas.

[Silver&Black]

All this Wilson talk...

Shit us Bucs fan would trade McCown or Glennon....or hell...even McCown and Glennon in a heartbeat for him. I don't think he's a "game manager" type QB. I think the guy is going to be pretty damn good. Did his defense help him win a SB...yeah. But I don't see him as the Brad Johnson/Trent Dilfer type.

[Silver&Black]

Thanks. A big reason why the Ravens are ranked so high might be because of the Tampa game. Flacco's first three touchdowns were on third-down plays. The team also converted a lot of long downs, which I imagine that stat loves.

I doubt that their ranking in that stat gets appreciably worse the next two weeks against the Falcons and Steelers, but it'll probably start to drop when the Ravens play tougher defenses starting with the Cinci game.

I read what Malik Hairston posted about what "DOVA" is. I understand what he's talking about....but what does the acronym "DOVA" stand for??

[spurraider21]

Defense-adjusted Value Over Average

[Chris]

All this Wilson talk...

Shit us Bucs fan would trade McCown or Glennon....or hell...even McCown and Glennon in a heartbeat for him. I don't think he's a "game manager" type QB. I think the guy is going to be pretty damn good. Did his defense help him win a SB...yeah. But I don't see him as the Brad Johnson/Trent Dilfer type.


Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer were pretty good QB's on bad teams most of their careers. Russell Wilson inherited an elite defense just like Kaepernick as a rookie.

[Silver&Black]

Defense-adjusted Value Over Average

Thanks...I even had the acronym wrong. It's not DOVA...it's DVOA. Again, thanks.

[Silver&Black]

Wonder what's the Bucs' and Raiders' DVOA rating?

-39 ???




TEAM
TOTAL
DVOA
LAST
WEEK
TOTAL
DAVE
RANK
W-L
OFFENSE
DVOA
OFF.
RANK
DEFENSE
DVOA
DEF.
RANK
S.T.
DVOA
S.T.
RANK


1
DEN
38.7%
1
34.6%
1
4-1
21.5%
1
-16.5%
2
0.7%
18


2
BAL
28.2%
4
22.0%
4
4-2
18.2%
4
-7.0%
9
2.9%
8


3
SEA
26.8%
2
23.9%
2
3-2
12.1%
9
-9.3%
5
5.4%
4


4
GB
23.8%
3
22.4%
3
4-2
18.6%
3
-3.1%
13
2.2%
10


5
CIN
18.0%
5
14.0%
5
3-1-1
14.3%
5
-2.6%
14
1.1%
17


6
PHI
13.9%
13
12.2%
7
5-1
-4.0%
20
-6.4%
11
11.5%
1


7
DET
13.0%
9
9.1%
9
4-2
-5.7%
22
-28.6%
1
-9.9%
32


8
SD
12.9%
7
12.8%
6
5-1
14.1%
6
2.6%
20
1.3%
14


9
CLE
11.7%
18
5.1%
15
3-2
20.7%
2
10.4%
29
1.3%
16


10
DAL
11.6%
12
8.1%
10
5-1
13.2%
8
0.1%
16
-1.5%
20


11
NE
9.4%
10
10.2%
8
4-2
-1.3%
19
-6.9%
10
3.8%
7


12
ATL
7.5%
6
5.4%
13
2-4
14.1%
7
16.0%
31
9.4%
2


13
IND
6.6%
17
5.5%
12
4-2
6.0%
12
3.9%
21
4.5%
5


14
KC
6.0%
14
3.2%
16
2-3
5.1%
13
0.5%
18
1.4%
13


15
SF
5.8%
16
6.6%
11
4-2
-0.5%
18
-11.8%
3
-5.5%
27


16
CHI
4.7%
19
5.4%
14
3-3
3.9%
14
-7.1%
8
-6.3%
28



TEAM
TOTAL
DVOA
LAST
WEEK
TOTAL
DAVE
RANK
W-L
OFFENSE
DVOA
OFF.
RANK
DEFENSE
DVOA
DEF.
RANK
S.T.
DVOA
S.T.
RANK


17
MIA
1.1%
21
-0.6%
18
2-3
-0.1%
16
-10.0%
4
-8.8%
31


18
BUF
0.2%
15
-0.6%
17
3-3
-14.7%
27
-8.0%
7
6.9%
3


19
ARI
-0.2%
20
-1.6%
20
4-1
-11.9%
26
-8.9%
6
2.8%
9


20
PIT
-1.5%
11
-0.7%
19
3-3
3.1%
15
6.0%
23
1.3%
15


21
NYG
-2.9%
8
-2.9%
21
3-3
-4.6%
21
-4.1%
12
-2.4%
22


22
CAR
-4.4%
22
-3.7%
22
3-2-1
7.3%
11
10.0%
28
-1.6%
21


23
WAS
-8.8%
23
-9.4%
24
1-5
-0.2%
17
0.3%
17
-8.3%
30


24
HOU
-9.9%
24
-9.8%
25
3-3
-6.3%
23
-0.3%
15
-3.9%
25


25
NO
-10.9%
25
-4.8%
23
2-3
11.6%
10
22.6%
32
0.0%
19


26
TEN
-19.9%
26
-17.6%
27
2-4
-7.9%
24
7.3%
24
-4.6%
26


27
STL
-20.5%
28
-15.2%
26
1-4
-8.3%
25
8.8%
25
-3.3%
24


28
NYJ
-21.0%
27
-17.7%
28
1-5
-24.4%
29
0.6%
19
4.0%
6


29
OAK
-25.8%
30
-23.6%
29
0-5
-17.6%
28
10.0%
27
1.8%
12


30
MIN
-31.5%
29
-25.9%
30
2-4
-28.1%
31
5.3%
22
1.9%
11


31
JAC
-41.1%
32
-35.7%
31
0-6
-28.8%
32
9.3%
26
-3.0%
23


32
TB
-47.4%
31
-38.8%
32
1-5
-24.6%
30
15.2%
30
-7.7%
29

[Silver&Black]

Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer were pretty good QB's on bad teams most of their careers. Russell Wilson inherited an elite defense just like Kaepernick as a rookie.

True dat...