Why are the conservative posters here wealthier than their liberal counterparts?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Serious question: vy, tlong, CC, TSA (closer to right than left), even Darrin, WC and others--why are they more successful than the common man here?

[Winehole23]

God rewards the good ones by givin em the goodies

[DeadlyDynasty]

Do you have goodies too, WH?

[Winehole23]

in the conventional sense, not really.

I got enough to maintain a lifestyle I like. You?

[mrsmaalox]

They aren't. They just talk about what they have more than the others do.

[TheSanityAnnex]

They aren't. They just talk about what they have more than the others do.
Link please.

[Wild Cobra]

They aren't. They just talk about what they have more than the others do.


Link please.
Maalox is correct in that I have eluded to the money I make. What pisses me off is paying in excess of $10/hr in taxes, putting money in my personal retirement to secure my own future, pay for insurance, and not have much more than those as net money to spend than those whining about not having enough money. Especially those who I am helping to subsidize.

[Wild Cobra]

Why are the conservative posters here wealthier than their liberal counterparts?

I would say the key difference is that conservatives, as a general rule, tend to be more responsible than liberals.

[baseline bum]

Especially those who I am helping to subsidize.

Like your whore mother?

[m>s]

Like your whore mother?
Like n!ggers

[FromWayDowntown]

I would say the key difference is that conservatives, as a general rule, tend to be more responsible than liberals.

This is unquestionably true. For some reason, I'm much more inclined to post while driving my Ferrari than I am when driving my Maserati. Likely, that's a product of my irresponsibility.

(and there's nothing quite like propping yourself up by questioning the character of those you disagree with).

[Spurminator]

What pisses me off is paying in excess of $10/hr in taxes, putting money in my personal retirement to secure my own future, pay for insurance, and not have much more than those as net money to spend than those whining about not having enough money. Especially those who I am helping to subsidize.

Um, the money you put into retirement counts as "net money." It's not the same as paying taxes. You have a choice on how much you put away, and while it's certainly the responsible decision to put as much of it away as possible (especially pre-tax), that's not a luxury many poor people have... So it doesn't really make sense to list that as some kind of obstacle to making more money than the "whiners" you speak of.

If you're barely getting by on your monthly spending funds, then perhaps you need to examine your insurance costs or put less into retirement.

[m>s]

I Posted the study a while back showing conservatives have bigger balls on average too

[Wild Cobra]

Um, the money you put into retirement counts as "net money." It's not the same as paying taxes.
Yes, technically you are correct. I should have worded that differently.


You have a choice on how much you put away, and while it's certainly the responsible decision to put as much of it away as possible (especially pre-tax), that's not a luxury many poor people have...
This is true, and pre tax for me at the federal 25% and state 9% marginal rates are more beneficial to me than someone of lesser means only getting a 10% and 5% break. People with less money can still open an IRA. It's a matter of doing with less. For me, I only see $66 less for every $100 I save.

Still, if I just count my taxes alone, I pay way too much.


So it doesn't really make sense to list that as some kind of obstacle to making more money than the "whiners" you speak of.

Well, my mindset for not appreciating them is not that they whine, but why they whine. Rarely do you see someone that tried to accel and be responsible in life, that didn't accel. Granted, luck is part of the equation, but I came from a poor background so I don't allow that as an excuse.



If you're barely getting by on your monthly spending funds, then perhaps you need to examine your insurance costs or put less into retirement.
I'm not "barely" getting by. I just don't live as well as many people on food stamps. I live within the means I allow for myself. When I keep seeing people asking for the government to provide more and more, but I don't see these people trying to better their own circumstance, I just shake my head.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm not "barely" getting by. I just don't live as well as many people on food stamps.:lmao

[Spurminator]

Yeah yeah, that massive fictitious mob of wealthy food stamp and welfare scammers... Time to get mad about them again. We work hard while they just sit around and count their Big Macs and Xboxes.

[DarrinS]

If I had to guess, I'd say the older members of this board make more than younger members, regardless of which way they lean politically.

[Spurminator]

tbh I missed the board census where we all reported our income and assets.

[Wild Cobra]

tbh I missed the board census where we all reported our income and assets.
Why?

I would low-ball mine so others didn't hate me so much.

[CosmicCowboy]

They aren't. They just talk about what they have more than the others do.

Freaking richer:p:

Whaddya mean "they"? :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

If I had to guess, I'd say the older members of this board make more than younger members, regardless of which way they lean politically.

I think we have a winner.

[vy65]

Wait, how old do you fucks think I am?

[DarrinS]

Wait, how old do you fucks think I am?

65?

:bobo

[DarrinS]

Yeah yeah, that massive fictitious mob of wealthy food stamp and welfare scammers... Time to get mad about them again. We work hard while they just sit around and count their Big Macs and Xboxes.


You don't think there are lots of people on food stamps that have SUV's, plasma TV's, and Xboxes?

[CosmicCowboy]

You don't think there are lots of people on food stamps that have SUV's, plasma TV's, and Xboxes?

There is no doubt that there are some welfare cheats (unreported income) just like there are some tax cheats (unreported income)

"Lots" is probably a cliche overstatement.

[Spurminator]

You don't think there are lots of people on food stamps that have SUV's, plasma TV's, and Xboxes?

I'm sure there are several. And I'm positive that the anger about it far exceeds the degree of the problem, and is usually fueled by local news stories highlighting a bad example or two rather than personal experience. How many people on food stamps do you know?

[Uriel]

This isn't true. On average, liberal households earn 6% more in income than conservative households. Liberals also have higher IQ, higher educational attainment, and greater occupational prestige than conservatives.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Welfare Cobra

[m>s]

This isn't true. On average, liberal households earn 6% more in income than conservative households. Liberals also have higher IQ, higher educational attainment, and greater occupational prestige than conservatives.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html
Liberal women are also more likely to work and more conservative women take time off to raise kids, check the birth rates. Of course two people are going to earn more than one. So glad your type are dying off white conservatives are breeding above the replacement rate at 2.9 births per family.

also where were you when I poated the study that conservatives have higher testosterone and bigger testicles? It's no wonder you betas aren't breeding, you probably can't even produce sperm.

[CosmicCowboy]

This isn't true. On average, liberal households earn 6% more in income than conservative households. Liberals also have higher IQ, higher educational attainment, and greater occupational prestige than conservatives.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html

uhhhh...some pretty blanket statements there. There is positively no cause and effect relationship between being liberal and being smarter. Boutons is a perfect example of that. As for your "occupational prestige" that and $5 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. I'll take the occupational cash, thank you very much.

[vy65]

This isn't true. On average, liberal households earn 6% more in income than conservative households. Liberals also have higher IQ, higher educational attainment, and greater occupational prestige than conservatives.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html

lotsa irony here

[DarrinS]

This isn't true. On average, liberal households earn 6% more in income than conservative households. Liberals also have higher IQ, higher educational attainment, and greater occupational prestige than conservatives.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/who_really_cares.html


Interesting article. You may want to read it.

[Uriel]

There is positively no cause and effect relationship between being liberal and being smarter. Boutons is a perfect example of that.
Yeah, you're right. It's being smarter that makes you more liberal.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240018

[Uriel]

Interesting article. You may want to read it.
It says that conservatives are more charitable. But I linked to it because of the statistic I used:

"It is not that conservatives have more money. Liberal families average 6 percent higher incomes than conservative families."

I'm merely citing my source.

[Uriel]

Liberal women are also more likely to work and more conservative women take time off to raise kids, check the birth rates. Of course two people are going to earn more than one. So glad your type are dying off white conservatives are breeding above the replacement rate at 2.9 births per family.

also where were you when I poated the study that conservatives have higher testosterone and bigger testicles? It's no wonder you betas aren't breeding, you probably can't even produce sperm.
So your barometer for success in life is how successful you are in breeding?

Okay.

[DarrinS]

It says that conservatives are more charitable. But I linked to it because of the statistic I used:

"It is not that conservatives have more money. Liberal families average 6 percent higher incomes than conservative families."

I'm merely citing my source.


So liberals are smarter, wealthier, but much less generous than conservatives?

[Uriel]

So liberals are smarter, wealthier, but much less generous than conservatives?
The far-left doesn't believe in charity, because as Karl Marx wrote, it merely acts as a band-aid to disguise the structural ills of society. The only way to truly cure these ills is by enacting major reform, in the form of policies that provide health care, education, and employment to all people, regardless of their socio-economic status. That is why liberals fight for these policies.

[DarrinS]

The far-left doesn't believe in charity, because as Karl Marx wrote, it merely acts as a band-aid to disguise the structural ills of society. The only way to truly cure these ills is by enacting major reform, in the form of policies that provide health care, education, and employment to all people, regardless of their socio-economic status. That is why liberals fight for these policies.


Marx? How'd that work out?

[Uriel]

Marx? How'd that work out?
I'm not defending Marx's ideas, nor am I defending the far-left. I happen to believe that charity is good, and I'm disappointed that liberals don't give more.

I do, however, think it is worth pointing out that it is the left that works to enact structural change that will benefit all of society, something that goes far beyond just giving donations.

[TeyshaBlue]

Nice. Somebody said that in a book. Ill wait for the actual study.

[Spurminator]

As two MIT political scientists determined in a 2013 paper (http://bit.ly/1i8SiL2), the inclination to give appears to have virtually no relationship to one's partisan or ideological views.


http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-conservatives-or-liberals-20140331-story.html

The MIT study also disputes liberals being more wealthy than conservatives.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1100129/who-gives.pdf

[boutons_deux]

it is the left that works to enact structural change that will benefit all of society


:lol and the 1%/right-wing/Repugs do "work to enact structural change that will benefit all of society"? :lol

Internet and the ignorant assholes it exposes is so entertaining.

[boutons_deux]

The Charitable-Giving Divide
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/magazine/22FOB-wwln-t.html

[Uriel]

:lol and the 1%/right-wing/Repugs do "work to enact structural change that will benefit all of society"? :lol

Internet and the ignorant assholes it exposes is so entertaining.
Dude, that was precisely the point I was making. The left works to benefit all of society. The right doesn't. Read my post again.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol and the 1%/right-wing/Repugs do "work to enact structural change that will benefit all of society"? :lol

Internet and the ignorant assholes it exposes is so entertaining.

Ridiculous conflation yields strawman. Nothing new here. Smh

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude, that was precisely the point I was making. The left works to benefit all of society. The right doesn't. Read my post again.

Lots of dots to connect. Better get started.

[vy65]

Ridiculous conflation yields strawman. Nothing new here. Smh

GFY

[DeadlyDynasty]

Lots of dots to connect. Better get started.
TB with the back from the dead goods:lol

[Agloco]

I do fairly well, I mean, for being a libtard and all.

[spurraider21]

Uriel (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20048) do u have to bring iq into every thread? :lol

we get it brah. u took an iq test recently

i'm already pretty obnoxious... i can imagine how much worse it would be if i paraded around campus wearing my LSAT score as a badge

[ElNono]

This is unquestionably true. For some reason, I'm much more inclined to post while driving my Ferrari than I am when driving my Maserati. Likely, that's a product of my irresponsibility.

(and there's nothing quite like propping yourself up by questioning the character of those you disagree with).

:lol

[ElNono]

Lots of dots to connect. Better get started.

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Serious question: vy, tlong, CC, TSA (closer to right than left), even Darrin, WC and others--why are they more successful than the common man here?

People in the upper tax brackets tend to be more fiscally conservative.

[admiralsnackbar]

I Posted the study a while back showing conservatives have bigger balls on average too

File under: Broca's Balls.

[admiralsnackbar]

People in the upper tax brackets tend to be more fiscally conservative.

You'd be surprised. My experience with people in the upper tax bracket is that they tend to have better accountants/tax attorneys and a materialistic 'out-doing the Joneses' competitive streak. I'd say upper middle-class people tend to be more fiscally conservative, but that's as far as I'd go.

[Uriel]

Uriel (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20048) do u have to bring iq into every thread? :lol

we get it brah. u took an iq test recently

i'm already pretty obnoxious... i can imagine how much worse it would be if i paraded around campus wearing my LSAT score as a badge
Technically, I haven't taken any IQ tests recently. The last one I took was 2 years ago. I just happened to be fascinated by intelligence, and its correlates.

[admiralsnackbar]

Marx? How'd that work out?

While I'm happy to be a capitalist, you shouldn't confuse Marxism with communism as we've seen it. Marx argued that if mechanization came to a point where machines could do most human labor (reducing people to economic uselessness), THEN his version of communism would be useful to societies. Even with automation where it is, we're still a century or more away from satisfying the requirements of his premise. Guy's critique of capitalism was pretty spot-on, but his solution was sci-fi.

[spurraider21]

Technically, I haven't taken any IQ tests recently. The last one I took was 2 years ago. I just happened to be fascinated by intelligence, and its correlates.
i don't get what the technically qualifier did there... and are you suggesting talking about intelligence correlates with being intelligent?

[Uriel]

i don't get what the technically qualifier did there... and are you suggesting talking about intelligence correlates with being intelligent?
No. I mean I'm fascinated by the kinds of things having a high IQ is associated with. It isn't just political liberalism or atheism. Apparently, having high intelligence correlates to a lot of things, from liking classical and jazz music to being taller.

[SnakeBoy]

You'd be surprised. My experience with people in the upper tax bracket is that they tend to have better accountants/tax attorneys and a materialistic 'out-doing the Joneses' competitive streak. I'd say upper middle-class people tend to be more fiscally conservative, but that's as far as I'd go.

Upper middle class is who I was talking about. I don't think there are any truly wealthy posters on this forum, as far as I've seen.

[admiralsnackbar]

Upper middle class is who I was talking about. I don't think there are any truly wealthy posters on this forum, as far as I've seen.

Fair enough, then. Carry on, gents.

[Uriel]

Some of the Things Positively Correlated with a High IQ:

1. Income
2. Educational attainment
3. Atheism
4. Political liberalism
5. Height
6. Physical appearance
7. Desire to stand out from the rest
8. Preference for classical and jazz music
9. Sleeping late at night
10. Taking drugs / drinking (but not smoking)
11. Openness to new experiences
12. Health
13. Lack of violent crime
14. Job performance
15. Creativity

[TeyshaBlue]

No. I mean I'm fascinated by the kinds of things having a high IQ is associated with. It isn't just political liberalism or atheism. Apparently, having high intelligence correlates to a lot of things, from liking classical and jazz music to being taller.

I'm a 6'2", classically trained pianist and jazz musician. Im freaking Einstein!

[TeyshaBlue]

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-conservatives-or-liberals-20140331-story.html

The MIT study also disputes liberals being more wealthy than conservatives.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1100129/who-gives.pdf

*Liberal crickets*

[pgardn]

Why are posters here who claim to be wealthy thinking anyone actually believes them or cares?
And which posters actually have time to even keep track of posters who claim to be wealthy?

The attempts to correlate so many oddball characteristics is amusing though, carry on.

[TeyshaBlue]

Quiet or I'll lay some Theloneus Monk on yer ass!

[pgardn]

Quiet or I'll lay some Theloneus Monk on yer ass!

Thats not fair.
I can't keep up with Jazz, my IQ's too low.

[TeyshaBlue]

n00b!

[vy65]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/22147887.jpg

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm a 6'2", classically trained pianist and jazz musician. Im freaking Einstein!
pfft...I'm a 6'4" Tenor Sax player and pill-popping insomniac w/ no rap sheet and a penchant for macaroni drawings

[Cry Havoc]

Maalox is correct in that I have eluded to the money I make.

Alluded. English is your friend.

/pedantry

[boutons_deux]

Alluded. English is your friend.

/pedantry

WildCobra-bonics

[Wild Cobra]

Alluded. English is your friend.

/pedantry
LOL...

I see we have the Spelling Nazis in place.

[TeyshaBlue]

:worthy:
pfft...I'm a 6'4" Tenor Sax player and pill-popping insomniac w/ no rap sheet and a penchant for macaroni drawings

[ElNono]

I'm a 6'2", classically trained pianist and jazz musician. Im freaking Einstein!

Dunno if you like Woody Allen movies, but his last one certainly has some really nice Jazz music in it.

[TeyshaBlue]

Woody Allen is like really good Bluegrass music...I can dig the talent and performance but anything more than 30 minutes whips my ass.

[TeyshaBlue]

Some of the Things Positively Correlated with a High IQ:

1. Income
2. Educational attainment
3. Atheism
4. Political liberalism
5. Height
6. Physical appearance
7. Desire to stand out from the rest
8. Preference for classical and jazz music
9. Sleeping late at night
10. Taking drugs / drinking (but not smoking)
11. Openness to new experiences
12. Health
13. Lack of violent crime
14. Job performance
15. Creativity

16. Serial Killers

[TheSanityAnnex]

Some of the Things Positively Correlated with a High IQ:

1. Income-steady stream from stocks/property to cover all my bills, plus I make a decent salary
2. Educational attainment-graduated cum laude from Arizona State and attained plenty of top notch pussy
3. Atheism-deism
4. Political liberalism-classical liberalism sure, liberalism today in the US fuck no
5. Height-6'0"
6. Physical appearance-175 pound lean and cut lady slayer with a freshly trimmed moustache
7. Desire to stand out from the rest-not a desire but it comes naturally
8. Preference for classical and jazz music-not a preference but all the music I listen to was influenced by classical and jazz
9. Sleeping late at night-up late every night working on various woodworking projects in my shop
10. Taking drugs / drinking (but not smoking)-yes please
11. Openness to new experiences-killed my first deer with a compound bow last weekend
12. Health-amazing considering all the drugs and drinking
13. Lack of violent crime-haven't had to shoot anyone yet
14. Job performance-fantastic when I feel like working
15. Creativity-woodworking, create my own flies for fishing, mastered ableton live, spin turntables, piano, guitar, calligraphy


14 out of 15. My IQ is higher than I thought. Your turn Uriel.

[spurraider21]

^

7. Desire to stand out from the rest-not a desire but it comes naturally

ok, so you don't have desire.

[TheSanityAnnex]

^

7. Desire to stand out from the rest-not a desire but it comes naturally

ok, so you don't have desire.

13 out of 15. Knock my IQ down a point I guess.

[spurraider21]

^8. Preference for classical and jazz music-not a preference but all the music I listen to was influenced by classical and jazz

so not a preference

[TheSanityAnnex]

^8. Preference for classical and jazz music-not a preference but all the music I listen to was influenced by classical and jazz

so not a preferenceI have a preference for the hip hop and electronic music I listen to be influenced by classical and jazz. -.5 IQ points?

[TheSanityAnnex]

16. Well hung-indeed

Boom. Got my 1.5 points back.

[Clipper Nation]

Some of the Things Positively Correlated with a High IQ:

1. Income
2. Educational attainment
3. Atheism
4. Political liberalism
5. Height
6. Physical appearance
7. Desire to stand out from the rest
8. Preference for classical and jazz music
9. Sleeping late at night
10. Taking drugs / drinking (but not smoking)
11. Openness to new experiences
12. Health
13. Lack of violent crime
14. Job performance
15. Creativity

Urinel with the faggotry per par....

[rogues]

:lol I hope this new faggy libtard poster doesn't blindly follow his opinions because he thinks they correlate to all those things he posted..

[Nbadan]

Upper middle class is who I was talking about. I don't think there are any truly wealthy posters on this forum, as far as I've seen.

My guess is that depends on your interpretation of 'truly wealthy'....