Scott: 3 pointers doesn't win championships

[RsxPiimp]

Is Scott the worst active coach in the league? :lol


Byron Scott discussed the high rate of three-point shot attempts taken by NBA teams and admitted he is not a believer in the system.

“You’ve got a lot of teams that just live and die by it,” Scott said Friday. “Teams, general managers, coaches, they kind of draft that way to try to space the floor as much as possible. But you have to have shooters like that; you also have to have guys that can penetrate and get to the basket, because that opens up the floor.”

When asked whether he buys into the style, Scott said: “I don’t believe it wins championships. (It) gets you to the playoffs.”

Popvich's take on this?

"I hate it," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said.

No, he wasn't kidding when he said that in June. Popovich detests the 3-pointer, but in this NBA, it's a prerequisite.

"It's changed the game," Popovich said. "It makes it tougher to cover that much room defensively on the court, so you do have to pay attention to it defensively. It's a heck of a weapon. ... To me it's not basketball but you've got to use it. If you don't, you're in big trouble."The Spurs led the league in 3-point accuracy last year, making more shots from deep than ever before.


In the playoffs, their percentages got even better, and in the NBA Finals against the Heat they shot a wildly good 47 percent from 3-land.

http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Byron-Scott-Offered-Los-Angeles-Lakers-Coaching-Job-Too-Late.jpg

What the heck man
Fouling hard
2 hour practices before game time
no 3 pointers
ISO kobe ball

this is actually worst than 48.5 tbh :lol

[SupremeGuy]

The LOLakers really are planning on providing this place with lulz for years to come, tbh. :lol

Thank you based Contract. :cry

[Red Hawk #21]

Lakers are gunna brick 19 footers all season :rollin

[Splits]

Only one team averaged less than 15 3 attempts per game last year but they were one of the slowest paced and best defensively

[StrengthAndHonor]

Only one team averaged less than 15 3 attempts per game last year but they were one of the slowest paced and best defensively

Memphis?

[baseline bum]

CROFL, the Spurs were the best three point shooting team in the league in winning the 2014 title and Miami was #2 in winning the 2013 title.

[Dex]

Scott just showing off that fine coaching pedigree.

http://grantland.com/features/the-reliance-3-pointer-whether-not-hurting-nba/


Just about everyone in the NBA, from scouts to head coaches to GMs, understands that long 2-point shots are bad and 3s are good. There is a strong correlation between 3-point attempts and team scoring efficiency, and an even more specific correlation between the number of short corner 3s a team attempts and its overall points per possession.

The debate on this stuff is over. Math has won, though team-by-team personnel obviously still plays a huge role in a team’s shot-selection profile.

Everyone...except for Byron, it seems.

Have fun, Laker fans.

[ambchang]

Doesnt really matter much. The lakers are not going to be anything close to a contender this season even with the best three point shooting in league history.

[ElNono]

What Scott has going for him is that the team is so shitty, tbh... basically it's going to be easy for him to deflect to the fact that the team generally sucks...

[DMC]

The Lakers are going to focus on getting Kobe face time, breaking Jordan's scoring record and the all star game of which Kobe is a shoo in. This is Kobe's epitaph, let's see how he writes it.

[Dex]

CROFL, the Spurs were the best three point shooting team in the league in winning the 2014 title and Miami was #2 in winning the 2013 title.

Dallas 2011 - Dirk, Terry, Kidd, Stojakovic, Stevenson

Miami 2012/2013 - Allen, Miller, Jones, Battier, Chalmers

San Antonio 2014 - Ginobili, Green, Mills, Belinelli, Diaw, Bonner

The last championship team that wasn't built around an interior attack surrounded by good shooters was the 2010 Lakers...and even then, Kobe needed a bailout three from Artest to prevent coughing up another one to the Celts.

[Splits]

Memphis?

Yes

[Chomag]

Are Lakers having fun yet?

[LarryDavid]

Who on the Lakers is alive to be a decent three point threat anyways?

[Cry Havoc]

Only one team averaged less than 15 3 attempts per game last year but they were one of the slowest paced and best defensively

And they're a special case considering the post-guys they have. Memphis was a 3 point shooter (or two) away from beating the OK Thunder last year. Or some even officiating.

[illusioNtEk]

LOL RELOAD NO REBUILD

[Biernutz]

Scott wants everyone to go at the basket then kick the ball out to Kobe....They were in the last 5 in the league
last year in 3pt shots made......

[lefty]

Scott thinks it's still like during his playing days, when it was midrange oriented

[mkurts]

For the Lakers to win they must shoot long twos 95 percent of the game, no layups or 3pt as that is inefficient.

[lefty]

Scott trying to bump up Kirby's shooting %, thinking higher percentage jumpers will work :lol

Kitby still coaching that team :lol

[Purch]

Dallas 2011 - Dirk, Terry, Kidd, Stojakovic, Stevenson

Miami 2012/2013 - Allen, Miller, Jones, Battier, Chalmers

San Antonio 2014 - Ginobili, Green, Mills, Belinelli, Diaw, Bonner

The last championship team that wasn't built around an interior attack surrounded by good shooters was the 2010 Lakers...and even then, Kobe needed a bailout three from Artest to prevent coughing up another one to the Celts.
That's cause the triangle creates enough issues for the defense, regardless of whether or not you have elite shooting

[Kool Bob Love]

Trees for Threes



http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/lakers/sites/default/files/trees4threes_banner.jpg





Hey Lakers fans! Each time the Lakers score a three-pointer during a home game until March 19th, East West Bank will fund the planting of a tree in the Los Angeles Community.

[Medvedenko]

No one gives a shit what any of "fans" think anyway. You need a balanced attack and the fact that TD is no longer the player he used to be, the spurs had to adapt (Pop's best strength as a coach). When your best inside post presence is your 3-4th option, you need to adapt the attack.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol black coaches

[Kool Bob Love]

:flag:

[Medvedenko]

:flag:

Nice emoticon.

[jag]

No one gives a shit what any of "fans" think anyway. You need a balanced attack and the fact that TD is no longer the player he used to be, the spurs had to adapt (Pop's best strength as a coach). When your best inside post presence is your 3-4th option, you need to adapt the attack.

Which includes 3's.

[Red Hawk #21]

http://i.imgur.com/wh6qULh.jpg
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[RsxPiimp]

http://i.imgur.com/wh6qULh.jpg
Shit is giving me goosebumps. That's an 8th seed playoff team right there

























































































































































































































































































































http://i.imgur.com/xOiD2y2.gif?1

[Dex]

Trees for Threes



http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/lakers/sites/default/files/trees4threes_banner.jpg





:lol Byron Scott hates the environment. :lol

[Red Hawk #21]

I just don't see how they can make the playoffs. All of these teams: Spurs, Clippers, Mavs, Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Blazers, Pelicans>Lakers. Hell, Phoenix and Denver will most likely be better than the Lakers.

[Seventyniner]

The league should add another arc 15 feet from the basket, with shots inside that arc counting 2 pts, between the arcs 3 pts, and outside the current three point arc 4 points. Give Scott and Pop aneurysms. Jump shot city baby!

[Franklin]

Only common thing between Kobe and a tree is that they both have dead legs.

[Splits]

:lmao Suns made more 3s (16) than the Lakers attempted (13)

[midnightpulp]

:lmao Suns made more 3s (16) than the Lakers attempted (13)

And like 10 of the Lakers attempts were in garbage time.

[DPG21920]

It's one thing to hate something, it's another to deny it's profound impact. But it's not like Byron could ever be considered a good coach and they aren't trying to win. They just tell their fans that :lol

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Memphis?
Unfortunately yes.

[100%duncan]

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

527682658197729280

[Xylus]

I just don't see how they can make the playoffs. All of these teams: Spurs, Clippers, Mavs, Warriors, Rockets, Thunder, Blazers, Pelicans>Lakers. Hell, Phoenix and Denver will most likely be better than the Lakers.

Most likely? You serious?

[Splits]

The Lakers Are Still Jump-Kicking Themselves In The Face (http://deadspin.com/the-lakers-are-still-jump-kicking-themselves-in-the-fac-1654007829)

(http://deadspin.com/the-lakers-are-still-jump-kicking-themselves-in-the-fac-1654007829)http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UcKLa0CR--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/xa8ybkpohqd5aisv7wq3.jpgEXPAND

A funny thing happened on Halloween: Perhaps inspired by the children of America— who'd spent the evening taking to the streets in elaborate costumes, pretending to be ghosts and ghouls and ninja turtles rather than little kids—the Lakers decided to dress up as a team that can wring success out of the bad, dumb basketball they play on purpose (http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-lakers-will-play-terrible-basketball-on-purpose-1646396323/+kylenw). They won the middle quarters of their game against the Clippers by 13 points and entered the fourth up four. They were on the way to beating the mighty Clippers!

Then they sent the Clippers to the free-throw line 19 times in the fourth, against two FTs of their own, and lost by seven. A costume is a costume, after all. Dressing up like a pirate isn't the same thing as knowing how to pillage a merchant ship.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--yE-l2jnG--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/rkgzogvjidxw6onuxqsq.pngEXPAND

The Lakers are still playing bad basketball on purpose, in case you were worried they might stop doing that. Their shot chart from Friday night, with its 20 three-point attempts and its pleasant green-and-yellow color scheme, could almost fool you into thinking they played well, but they did not. They just made a few more of the atrocious long twos Byron Scott's presumably glue-addled game-"plan" has them chucking up with unconscionable frequency. They still took more long twos (29) than threes and layups/dunks combined (26). They still haven't gone a single game without doing that. This is still the basketball equivalent of taking a long, leisurely piss directly into your own gas tank.

Give the Lakers credit: Their brief proximity to success chastened them; they went out the next night in Oakland with a renewed commitment to dropping pianos on their own feet and calling it toughness, and lost 127-104 to the Warriors.

This shot chart is a real gem.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8zD2Wy8_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/myqq7j45aqjb1laq746n.pngEXPAND

That's 26 attempts from the basket area and behind the three-point line, same as the night before against the Clippers—only this time, the Lakers managed to pump up 40 long twos, which is an impressive achievement in the same way that shooting an arrow into your own back would be an impressive achievement. If this shot chart were an item of evidence at a crime scene, Sherlock Holmes would squint at it, and Watson would go, "Damn, man, the victim must have been the dumbest motherfucker who ever lived," and Holmes would go, "No, good man, nobody is that fucking stupid; clearly he was under the influence of alien brain-control rays."

For some enlightening contrast, here is the Warriors' shot chart from the same game:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mwdhhPhj--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/taon5l0lbknah5g1yb2r.pngEXPAND

That is the shot chart of a good basketball team whose coach has not been in a coma since 1990.

A common refrain from Lakers defenders the previous couple of times we've made fun (http://deadspin.com/oh-man-the-lakers-are-in-big-big-trouble-1652192800) of the apeshit ridiculous basketball (http://deadspin.com/come-let-us-have-another-laugh-at-the-disastrous-laker-1652703418) they're playing on purpose goes like this, basically: "Attacking the basket instead of jacking long jumpers is a good gameplan; the Lakers just don't have the players to make it work." There is a word for this kind of reasoning, and it is: Hahahahaha.

Chocolate cake is good. Making chocolate cake is a good plan. Unless the only ingredients you have are hot dogs and canned tomato soup, in which case making chocolate cake is a bad idea. A cook who attempts to make chocolate cake out of hot dogs and canned tomato soup is not a cook whose good plan was undone by bad ingredients; a cook who attempts to make chocolate cake out of hot dogs and canned tomato soup is a fucking moron. Even if it's true that Auguste Escoffier himself could not make a five-star meal out of hot dogs and canned tomato soup, it takes a particular brand of deluded shit-for-brains to take hot dogs and canned tomato soup and attempt to turn them into chocolate cake.

The Lakers' two best players, in some order or another, are Jordan Hill and the mummy who used to be Kobe Bryant. Their third best player does not exist. The Lakers have hot dogs and canned tomato soup, and Byron Scott wants to make the Showtime Lakers of the 1980s out of them. Even leaving aside the extremely open question of whether any team could succeed playing the Showtime Lakers basketball of the 1980s after the rules and paradigm changes of the past three fucking decades, the Lakers of today are not the team to do it.

A good gameplan is one that works for the particular players who will be running it, not one that works when you imagine it being run by some whole other group of guys with different skill sets. Otherwise I could write "Start Zeus At Power Forward" on a piece of paper, tape it to a clipboard, and proclaim myself a basketball coaching genius. That's a pretty good-ass gameplan! Too bad I don't have the players to run it.

The moral of this story is that Byron Scott is a dingus, the Lakers are the basketball equivalent of an incompetent, drunk jazz quintet falling down a spiral staircase together, and this is the most enjoyable thing happening in sports today. They're hosting the Suns tomorrow, and watching them try to insert the basketball into their navels is your duty as a lover of the rich and strange and mysterious human race.

[RsxPiimp]

Kobe went on a I don't give a fuck mode against the Warriors and followed that up with a stellar 30% shooting on 37 attempts the following game. As a coach, you'd have to feel irrelevant and stupid in front of your players when you stress team work and defense while one player gets carte blanche.

[ambchang]

Some perspective from Larry Bird, a player who played in the same era as Scott.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11835577/kevin-love-impressing-shooting-greats


Despite his reputation as an assassin from beyond the arc, Bird preferred to play in the post. The most 3s Bird ever attempted in a season during his 13-year career was 237. Love launched 505 last season.

"I never liked the 3-point shot," Bird said. "I thought it was a low-percentage shot. But we took enough just to keep the defense honest. You know, we had [Kevin] McHale and [Robert] Parish. But in saying that, the game has changed. Myself, I always liked to be around the basket and I never really practiced 3-point shots. But if you look at how the game is played today, you would have to do that. You would have to extend the defense. You would have to spread the court on them, and I probably would take a lot more. I don't know if I'd take 500, but you'd have to take three or four a game, maybe, just to keep the defense honest."

The NBA didn't even have a 3-point shot until Bird's rookie season in 1979-80. Bird's teammate, Chris Ford, connected on one of the first made 3s in league history.

"I remember it," Bird said with a laugh. "And at that time, we thought that Chris was probably the only guy that was going to shoot any 3s."

The Celtics attempted 422 3s as a team that season, less than Love's personal total in 2013-14 and far less than Minnesota's team total (1,757).

"It just wasn't really a part of our game," Bird said. "Our thing was just keep pounding on the inside and try to get the ball to our big guys and get to the line. But it's amazing how the game has changed where now, teams can shoot 30 to 35 a game …

"Now, if you shot 36-40 percent from there, it's better than taking a 2-pointer."

He may not have liked it, but it's still a useful weapon.

[CavsSuperFan]

Serious question...
With Kobe, Lin, Swaggy & Byron on the same page, do the Lakers get to the NBA finals this year?

[ambchang]

Serious question...
With Kobe, Lin, Swaggy & Byron on the same page, do the Lakers get to the NBA finals this year?

They are on the same page, and that's the problem. Because that page reads "Kobe is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th option on every single play."

[hyhy]

The Lakers Are Still Jump-Kicking Themselves In The Face (http://deadspin.com/the-lakers-are-still-jump-kicking-themselves-in-the-fac-1654007829)

(http://deadspin.com/the-lakers-are-still-jump-kicking-themselves-in-the-fac-1654007829)http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UcKLa0CR--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/xa8ybkpohqd5aisv7wq3.jpgEXPAND

A funny thing happened on Halloween: Perhaps inspired by the children of America— who'd spent the evening taking to the streets in elaborate costumes, pretending to be ghosts and ghouls and ninja turtles rather than little kids—the Lakers decided to dress up as a team that can wring success out of the bad, dumb basketball they play on purpose (http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-lakers-will-play-terrible-basketball-on-purpose-1646396323/+kylenw). They won the middle quarters of their game against the Clippers by 13 points and entered the fourth up four. They were on the way to beating the mighty Clippers!

Then they sent the Clippers to the free-throw line 19 times in the fourth, against two FTs of their own, and lost by seven. A costume is a costume, after all. Dressing up like a pirate isn't the same thing as knowing how to pillage a merchant ship.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--yE-l2jnG--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/rkgzogvjidxw6onuxqsq.pngEXPAND

The Lakers are still playing bad basketball on purpose, in case you were worried they might stop doing that. Their shot chart from Friday night, with its 20 three-point attempts and its pleasant green-and-yellow color scheme, could almost fool you into thinking they played well, but they did not. They just made a few more of the atrocious long twos Byron Scott's presumably glue-addled game-"plan" has them chucking up with unconscionable frequency. They still took more long twos (29) than threes and layups/dunks combined (26). They still haven't gone a single game without doing that. This is still the basketball equivalent of taking a long, leisurely piss directly into your own gas tank.

Give the Lakers credit: Their brief proximity to success chastened them; they went out the next night in Oakland with a renewed commitment to dropping pianos on their own feet and calling it toughness, and lost 127-104 to the Warriors.

This shot chart is a real gem.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8zD2Wy8_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/myqq7j45aqjb1laq746n.pngEXPAND

That's 26 attempts from the basket area and behind the three-point line, same as the night before against the Clippers—only this time, the Lakers managed to pump up 40 long twos, which is an impressive achievement in the same way that shooting an arrow into your own back would be an impressive achievement. If this shot chart were an item of evidence at a crime scene, Sherlock Holmes would squint at it, and Watson would go, "Damn, man, the victim must have been the dumbest motherfucker who ever lived," and Holmes would go, "No, good man, nobody is that fucking stupid; clearly he was under the influence of alien brain-control rays."

For some enlightening contrast, here is the Warriors' shot chart from the same game:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--mwdhhPhj--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/taon5l0lbknah5g1yb2r.pngEXPAND

That is the shot chart of a good basketball team whose coach has not been in a coma since 1990.

A common refrain from Lakers defenders the previous couple of times we've made fun (http://deadspin.com/oh-man-the-lakers-are-in-big-big-trouble-1652192800) of the apeshit ridiculous basketball (http://deadspin.com/come-let-us-have-another-laugh-at-the-disastrous-laker-1652703418) they're playing on purpose goes like this, basically: "Attacking the basket instead of jacking long jumpers is a good gameplan; the Lakers just don't have the players to make it work." There is a word for this kind of reasoning, and it is: Hahahahaha.

Chocolate cake is good. Making chocolate cake is a good plan. Unless the only ingredients you have are hot dogs and canned tomato soup, in which case making chocolate cake is a bad idea. A cook who attempts to make chocolate cake out of hot dogs and canned tomato soup is not a cook whose good plan was undone by bad ingredients; a cook who attempts to make chocolate cake out of hot dogs and canned tomato soup is a fucking moron. Even if it's true that Auguste Escoffier himself could not make a five-star meal out of hot dogs and canned tomato soup, it takes a particular brand of deluded shit-for-brains to take hot dogs and canned tomato soup and attempt to turn them into chocolate cake.

The Lakers' two best players, in some order or another, are Jordan Hill and the mummy who used to be Kobe Bryant. Their third best player does not exist. The Lakers have hot dogs and canned tomato soup, and Byron Scott wants to make the Showtime Lakers of the 1980s out of them. Even leaving aside the extremely open question of whether any team could succeed playing the Showtime Lakers basketball of the 1980s after the rules and paradigm changes of the past three fucking decades, the Lakers of today are not the team to do it.

A good gameplan is one that works for the particular players who will be running it, not one that works when you imagine it being run by some whole other group of guys with different skill sets. Otherwise I could write "Start Zeus At Power Forward" on a piece of paper, tape it to a clipboard, and proclaim myself a basketball coaching genius. That's a pretty good-ass gameplan! Too bad I don't have the players to run it.

The moral of this story is that Byron Scott is a dingus, the Lakers are the basketball equivalent of an incompetent, drunk jazz quintet falling down a spiral staircase together, and this is the most enjoyable thing happening in sports today. They're hosting the Suns tomorrow, and watching them try to insert the basketball into their navels is your duty as a lover of the rich and strange and mysterious human race.


Is there one that says how many long 2s are taken by Kobe?
What happens when you take out Kobe's attempts from the total lakers attempt?
What will the shot chart be like?
If it is different, then it may just be Kobe instead of byron's coaching.

[ambchang]

Is there one that says how many long 2s are taken by Kobe?
What happens when you take out Kobe's attempts from the total lakers attempt?
What will the shot chart be like?
If it is different, then it may just be Kobe instead of byron's coaching.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2015.html?mobile=false

Check the shooting stats. Incredible.

[Splits]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2015.html?mobile=false

Check the shooting stats. Incredible.

:wow 24% of Kirby's 2s assisted?

[ambchang]

:wow 24% of Kirby's 2s assisted?

The more amazing thing is that 33% of Kobe's shot were 2pts >16 ft from the basket.

[mkurts]

Only Kobe 3pt shots win championships, give ball always to Kobe, play Kobe 48 minutes a night, let Kobe coach and diss the chumps