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BillMc
10-20-2014, 05:36 PM
SI has Duncan at #5 on their player list. But I posted this here not for the ranking, but for the glorious appraisal of him. It's a nice read. Love the OKC Game 6 memories, and the quote. I know I am preaching to the choir, but we are privileged to watch #21.

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TIM DUNCAN, SPURS

Forward/center | Age: 38
6-11, 250 pounds
Last year: No. 6
2013-14 statistics
• 15.1 PPG, 9.7 RPG, 3.0 APG, 49.0 FG%
• 21.4 PER, 7.4 Win Shares, 3.1 RAPM
Go ahead, start rehearsing now. Start preparing your speech to your future grandkids that explains what Duncan accomplished in 2013-14, and try to make it sound like something that actually happened rather than a passage out of an ancient Greek myth.

The climactic scene takes place during Game 6 of the Western Conference finals in Oklahoma City, where a 38-year-old Duncan finds himself without Tony Parker, in one of the most hostile environments in the league, with Serge Ibaka shadowing his every move and with Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook desperately trying to pull themselves back into a series that had seemed all but over. Oh, yes, it happened to be overtime, too, and coach Gregg Popovich had no choice but to play his aging great 39 minutes. How does Duncan respond? By scoring seven straights points – getting whatever he wants against Ibaka -- to send the Thunder home for the summer and silence the Chesapeake Arena. And then? Minutes later, he calmly predicts that his Spurs will revenge their 2013 Finals loss against the back-to-back champs. Five games and four blowout wins later, Duncan’s prediction came true.
Almost 20 years ago, Wofford coach Richard Johnson gave this speech before facing Duncan’s Wake Forest team: “Let me tell you guys about who you're playing tomorrow. Someday your six-year-old will ask you for a Tim Duncan jersey for Christmas. This is your chance to play a future NBA Hall of Famer, your turn to face the greatest player you will ever meet." Those words were delivered when Michael Jordan was still collecting championship rings, when Shaquille O’Neal had just arrived in Los Angeles, when Allen Iverson was in the middle of a Rookie of the Year campaign, when Anthony Davis was first sprouting a unibrow, and yet the gist of Johnson’s message could still be delivered by any NBA coach today.
Think it’s unfair to keep Duncan in the top five when he is the only player in the top 10 who is older than 30? A far greater injustice would be to rush this living legend out the door, to downplay his status – as of mid-June 2014, not five or 10 or 15 years ago -- as the best player on, by far, the league’s best team.
Duncan’s Spurs were so dominant last year that you need to adjust his stats not only to account for Popovich’s careful rotation management, but also for the fact that many of his team’s postseason games were over midway through the third quarter. Even so, he trailed only James in postseason Win Shares, his postseason average of 16 points and nine rebounds marked the best numbers of any big man who advanced to the conference finals, and he posted a comical +11.2 net rating for the duration of the playoffs. Even though he is years removed from his most prolific statistical seasons, Duncan’s impressive all-around per-36 minutes numbers – 18.7 points, 12 rebounds, 3.7 assists, 2.3 blocks – were matched by exactly zero players last season. There still isn’t another big man who packs as many different types of positive plays into his court time as Duncan does, despite his advancing age.
With each new season, there are fewer and fewer historical comparisons for Duncan’s late-career brilliance. At this point, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone and John Stockton pretty much make up the entire list. The 14-time All-Star is fully within “wheels falling off” territory. There’s definitely a chance that age decline alone causes Duncan to drop out of the top 50 of SI’s Top 100 of 2016, something that absolutely cannot be said about anyone else in our top 10. There’s also a meaningful chance that Duncan isn’t included at all on next year’s list because he decides to call it a career. But those exact same things could have been said last September, and yet here he is, one ring richer, continuing to loom over the league with his Spurs as the early favorites to win the 2015 title.
Until Father Time intervenes, until retirement beckons, or until a young big man finally succeeds in knocking him off the pedestal for good, Duncan deserves every ounce of credit and praise that we can muster. The one part of the story that you won’t want to tell your grandchildren: “By the end, we were so caught up in how old Duncan was that we weren’t able to fully appreciate his greatness.” — B.G.

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/top-100-nba-players-2015-list#10to1

HI-FI
10-20-2014, 05:43 PM
thanks for posting. you might be preaching to the choir but Duncan appreciation never gets old.

Old School 44
10-20-2014, 06:05 PM
Keep preaching! :bobo

DesignatedT
10-20-2014, 06:08 PM
GOAT

anakha
10-20-2014, 06:13 PM
Richard Johnson with the Nostradamus call.

The Reckoning
10-20-2014, 07:00 PM
K:lolbe

dabom
10-20-2014, 07:05 PM
Keep preaching! :bobo

Little teary eye. :bobo

mkurts
10-20-2014, 10:38 PM
Very lucky to have him for so long ~ him and the Admiral formed the best defensive/offensive big men duo ever seen in history. I can't imagine how this team would fare without his presence

Skull-1
10-20-2014, 11:05 PM
Nice.

look_at_g_shred
10-20-2014, 11:07 PM
No words can describe how amazing this guy is. There will never be another :cry

wildchild
10-20-2014, 11:07 PM
Thanks!!!

milkyway21
10-20-2014, 11:20 PM
Thank you so much for posting !! :tu :clap
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Blake
10-20-2014, 11:20 PM
Great stuff.

Tear to the eye. :cry

Spur|n|Austin
10-20-2014, 11:20 PM
http://cdn.niketalk.com/7/7a/7aacf913_cheers.gif

spurs10
10-20-2014, 11:49 PM
Thanks Bill! Just great!

lefty
10-21-2014, 12:17 AM
" Where Duncan finds himself without Tony Parker "



No shit.

Sean Cagney
10-21-2014, 02:08 AM
Richard Johnson with the Nostradamus call.I guess he could just see it, anyways he was 100% DEAD ON. He predicted a legend.

George Gervin's Afro
10-21-2014, 05:50 AM
What can you say? When he walks away we will all simply watch him quietly leave the gym..as it should be.

StoneBuddha
10-21-2014, 11:48 AM
And yet he didn't make the All-Star team or any of the all NBA teams last year.

Dre_7
10-21-2014, 12:41 PM
Love it!

Best Big Man in NBA History!

spurs1990
10-21-2014, 03:34 PM
Spurs glasses fully engaged but sweet Jesus that was a great read.

Thanks for posting.

Uriel
10-21-2014, 11:21 PM
Great read. :cry

Killakobe81
10-22-2014, 08:25 AM
Nice story. Hard to not root for a good guy (seems to be dont know him personally) excelling using high b-ball IQ and fundamentals ...Best big since Kareem, no lie.

Killakobe81
10-22-2014, 08:26 AM
And yes Shaq and Hakeem in their primes may have been arguably more dominant but I take his total resume over theirs.

100%duncan
10-22-2014, 08:48 AM
:cry omg

Russo21
10-22-2014, 09:37 AM
And unfortunately when Tim was at the height of his powers the NBA was still desperately seeking to fill the 'next MJ' void.

His 2 MVP Seasons, some of the greatest basketball you will ever see, that egotistical douche Michael Jordan came back. (Tim and MJ played in the NBA together for 3 years, MJ won 1 MVP, Tim won 2, just saying) He walked into the NBA putting up 21-11-3-3 50%FG winning championships immediately and owns a massive 50 win season streak.

Then the NBA obsessed over young high flyers like Vince, Kobe, KG, TMAC. Little AI came and went. Grant Hills career never really go off the ground with his injuries. Yao bought the NBA to a billion chinamen. He outlasted the other dominant big man of his generation Shaq. The NBA dress code came into effect. We've changed commissioners. Rules changed. Franchises have moved or changed names. The NBA obsessed over the 7 seconds or less defenceless Suns. He's seen the NBA grow globally with a mass of International Ballers making their mark. Then the newest wave of ballers came in, LeBron, Wade, Howard, Durant, Paul, Griffin, Bosh, Aldridge etc. and in the last few playoffs he has beaten every single one of those marquee guys in the playoffs.

Tim's career has literally spanned generations, and he has conquered every challenge that has come his way.. There will never be another Tim Duncan. For those of us who have taken notice, we've all been blessed beyond our wildest dreams.

Fireball
10-22-2014, 09:51 AM
Also Tim could have played successfully in every generation ... if he had played 10-20 years earlier his body might have worn down faster because the game was focused more on big men ...

scanry
10-22-2014, 09:54 AM
Nice story. Hard to not root for a good guy (seems to be dont know him personally) excelling using high b-ball IQ and fundamentals ...Best big since Kareem, no lie.

Kareem imo had the greatest basketball career if you consider college and pro. He was unstoppable in college tbh. But yeah Tim's been the closest to match Kareem's resume over the years outlasting Shaq & Kobe.

It's ironic how the media's all over Tim after years of Kobe & Lebron love fest. Kobe better check his ego cause the media will eat him alive. He could get away in his prime in 2004, but he's 36 now and it's not going to be pretty for a guard.

absoloot66
10-22-2014, 10:09 AM
And unfortunately when Tim was at the height of his powers the NBA was still desperately seeking to fill the 'next MJ' void.

His 2 MVP Seasons, some of the greatest basketball you will ever see, that egotistical douche Michael Jordan came back. (Tim and MJ played in the NBA together for 3 years, MJ won 1 MVP, Tim won 2, just saying) He walked into the NBA putting up 21-11-3-3 50%FG winning championships immediately and owns a massive 50 win season streak.

Then the NBA obsessed over young high flyers like Vince, Kobe, KG, TMAC. Little AI came and went. Grant Hills career never really go off the ground with his injuries. Yao bought the NBA to a billion chinamen. He outlasted the other dominant big man of his generation Shaq. The NBA dress code came into effect. We've changed commissioners. Rules changed. Franchises have moved or changed names. The NBA obsessed over the 7 seconds or less defenceless Suns. He's seen the NBA grow globally with a mass of International Ballers making their mark. Then the newest wave of ballers came in, LeBron, Wade, Howard, Durant, Paul, Griffin, Bosh, Aldridge etc. and in the last few playoffs he has beaten every single one of those marquee guys in the playoffs.

Tim's career has literally spanned generations, and he has conquered every challenge that has come his way.. There will never be another Tim Duncan. For those of us who have taken notice, we've all been blessed beyond our wildest dreams.

Tim's career in context...and it ain't over yet :bobo

Blake
10-23-2014, 10:19 AM
And unfortunately when Tim was at the height of his powers the NBA was still desperately seeking to fill the 'next MJ' void.

His 2 MVP Seasons, some of the greatest basketball you will ever see, that egotistical douche Michael Jordan came back. (Tim and MJ played in the NBA together for 3 years, MJ won 1 MVP, Tim won 2, just saying) He walked into the NBA putting up 21-11-3-3 50%FG winning championships immediately and owns a massive 50 win season streak.

Then the NBA obsessed over young high flyers like Vince, Kobe, KG, TMAC. Little AI came and went. Grant Hills career never really go off the ground with his injuries.

The NBA obsessed over the loud flashy shaq/kobe lakers over a low key Tim playing on a boring spurs team in a boring small market town

exstatic
10-23-2014, 07:32 PM
And yes Shaq and Hakeem in their primes may have been arguably more dominant but I take his total resume over theirs.

I'll take Duncan's prime over Hakeem's. Olajuwon only had one season of 27 or better PER. Duncan averaged 27 over a 4 year period in true Groundhog Day Fashion: 27.0, 26.9, 27.1, 27.0.

Splits
10-23-2014, 09:21 PM
And unfortunately when Tim was at the height of his powers the NBA was still desperately seeking to fill the 'next MJ' void.

His 2 MVP Seasons, some of the greatest basketball you will ever see, that egotistical douche Michael Jordan came back. (Tim and MJ played in the NBA together for 3 years, MJ won 1 MVP, Tim won 2, just saying) He walked into the NBA putting up 21-11-3-3 50%FG winning championships immediately and owns a massive 50 win season streak.

Then the NBA obsessed over young high flyers like Vince, Kobe, KG, TMAC. Little AI came and went. Grant Hills career never really go off the ground with his injuries. Yao bought the NBA to a billion chinamen. He outlasted the other dominant big man of his generation Shaq. The NBA dress code came into effect. We've changed commissioners. Rules changed. Franchises have moved or changed names. The NBA obsessed over the 7 seconds or less defenceless Suns. He's seen the NBA grow globally with a mass of International Ballers making their mark. Then the newest wave of ballers came in, LeBron, Wade, Howard, Durant, Paul, Griffin, Bosh, Aldridge etc. and in the last few playoffs he has beaten every single one of those marquee guys in the playoffs.

Tim's career has literally spanned generations, and he has conquered every challenge that has come his way.. There will never be another Tim Duncan. For those of us who have taken notice, we've all been blessed beyond our wildest dreams.

:cry troof bombs :cry

great post

Russo21
10-24-2014, 12:18 AM
:cry troof bombs :cry

great post :bobo