View Full Version : A&M backs out of home and home versus Oregon
tlongII
10-23-2014, 08:25 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/10/report_texas_am_wont_play_oreg.html#incart_m-rpt-1
The long-awaited football series between the Texas A&M Aggies and Oregon Ducks is off.
Aggies athletic director Eric Hyman exercised a clause in the series contract that could void the agreement if the Aggies switched conferences, FOX Sports reported Thursday, and Texas A&M moved from the Big 12 to SEC in 2012.
Craig Pintens, Oregon senior associate athletic director for communications and marketing, confirmed Thursday afternoon that Texas A&M withdrew from the series via its change-of-conference clause.
"We are disappointed in Texas A&M's decision," Oregon athletic director Rob Mullens said in a statement. "We want to continue to provide marquee non-conference matchups for our fans. Scheduling is very difficult and when a team cancels a game we need to work even harder to find a suitable replacement."
The series was scheduled in 2009 as a top non-conference opponent for each school but with the Ducks' continued success, combined with A&M's rise in popularity behind coach Kevin Sumlin and Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Johnny Manziel -- a former Oregon recruit -- the series rose to marquee status.
One of the architects of the series was then-A&M athletic director Bill Byrne, who was also Oregon's athletic director from 1982-92.
It isn't the first time the Aggies have backed out of a series with a premier Pac-12 opponent. In 2013, one year after he took over as AD in College Station, Hyman opted out of a 2015-16 series with USC -- a deal that also had been reached in 2009 -- citing the uncertainty of switching to the SEC.
With the Aggies off the schedule, the Ducks' only non-conference opponent on the books for 2018 is Bowling Green, with Nevada in 2019, per fbschedules.com.
The Ducks retain high-profile home-and-home matchups with Nebraska (2016 and 2017) and Ohio State (2020 and 2021).
Clipper Nation
10-23-2014, 08:52 PM
:lol Aggy
DesignatedT
10-23-2014, 08:53 PM
Typical scheduling conflict. A&M realized they only have three conference games at home in year 2018 and asked Oregon to flip locations/years in '18/'19 to gain another home game for season ticket holders. Oregon declined so A&M dropped. A&M will add another top program to the schedule to take the place of Oregon in the coming days.
Texas A&M has replaced Oregon with Clemson as a high-profile home-and-home opponent for the 2018 and 2019 seasons, the schools announced Thursday night.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11752590/texas-replaces-oregon-clemson-2018-19-home-home-series
Phillip
10-23-2014, 09:02 PM
LOLOLOLOL aggy scurred
Blake
10-23-2014, 09:12 PM
Actually, i wouldn't blame them for scheduling pansies every year in ooc.
Get those 3 easy wins and then you only need to won 3 conference games to be bowl eligible
Splits
10-23-2014, 09:27 PM
:lol Clemson
:lol Aggy scared after being exposed as not SEC-ready
:lol not Pac12-ready
:lol never won shit in 100 years
:lol 77-0
:lol 59-0
:lol
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Splits
10-23-2014, 09:33 PM
:lol 97 years of incompetence
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Clipper Nation
10-23-2014, 09:45 PM
Actually, i wouldn't blame them for scheduling pansies every year in ooc.
Get those 3 easy wins and then you only need to won 3 conference games to be bowl eligible
Exactly. At this point, Aggy knows they only exist as a punching bag and recruiting showcase for Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, so it's back to the old Big 12 6-6 moral victories... WHOOP! :lol
Splits
10-23-2014, 10:01 PM
:lol Can't even build a campfire
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SQ1mo3HbXS4/maxresdefault.jpg?
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djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 01:23 PM
Exactly. At this point, Aggy knows they only exist as a punching bag and recruiting showcase for Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, so it's back to the old Big 12 6-6 moral victories... WHOOP! :lol
They are happy to be punching bags except to Texas :lol
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 06:56 PM
They are happy to be punching bags except to Texas :lol
Did you ever figure out how college overtime works?
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 07:01 PM
Did you ever figure out how college overtime works?
You're an Aggyfan?
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 07:03 PM
You're an Aggyfan?
Are you???
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 07:08 PM
Don't dodge the question fucktard. Did you ever figure out how college overtime works??? Or are you still oblivious??
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 07:16 PM
Don't dodge the question fucktard. Did you ever figure out how college overtime works??? Or are you still oblivious??
Did you figure out pro QBs are no longer in college conferences? Or are you oblivious?
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 07:19 PM
:lmao Dumbjohn
:lmao Talks shit about every team but Texas
:lmao Doesn't understand basic overtime strategy
:lmao Thinks you should go on offense first in college overtime
:lmao Thinks you should go on defense first in pro overtime
:lmao Calls you a "retard" if you disagree with him
:lmao The only one on this site who doesn't get it
:lmao Runs and hides whenever I talk about it
:lmao Needs to be banned from talking football
:lmao Stick to the NBA Forum
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 07:26 PM
Did you figure out pro QBs are no longer in college conferences? Or are you oblivious?
What!!!!! Pro QBs are not still in college??? You're kidding me, right? 1/10 comeback tbh....I mean seriously dumbjohn....seriously?? That's your big comeback? It took you 15 minutes to come up with that? No dumbjohn...only someone as dumb as you would even remotely think that Pro QBs still play in college conferences. (Or even bring it up as a comeback)
Now...stop dodging the question? Did you ever figure out what side you should choose first in college and pro overtimes?
pgardn
10-24-2014, 07:29 PM
:lol Can't even build a campfire
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SQ1mo3HbXS4/maxresdefault.jpg?
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http://images.morris.com/images/lubbock/mdControlled/cms/2009/11/17/518017149.jpg
Man that is harsh.
That was a really sad deal.
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 07:34 PM
S&B melting down. Per the usual. Par the course.
Seems to me like he's taking your retarded ass to the woodshed. You have no response to his simple question so you go with some regurgitated ST lingo.
lol retard
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 07:56 PM
http://tiltmodearmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Happy_5a8460_257397.jpg
Awesome comeback, dumbjohn. You really showed me!
Do you pick defense or offense in OT if you're a college coach?
The Reckoning
10-24-2014, 09:12 PM
always fun to make light of aggy backing out of big games, but the bonfire joke is pretty tasteless imo
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 09:19 PM
S&B melting down. Per the usual. Par the course.
dumbjohn...showing his ignorance. Per the usual. Par the course. Still dodging the question.
For the 24th time....Did you ever figure out which side to choose first in both pro and college overtimes? Cause last time I checked...you had both of them wrong and were calling the coach of Arky a retard. BTW dumbjohn...Bret Bielema has forgot more about football than you and I will ever know. (Well you for sure)
Just do us all a favor...leave the football threads to the people who actually understand the rules/strategy. Stick to the NBA Forum......
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 09:21 PM
I like that you're mad. Now calm down.
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 09:21 PM
always fun to make light of aggy backing out of big games, but the bonfire joke is pretty tasteless imo
Amen brother...Preach on.
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 09:25 PM
I like that you're mad. Now calm down.
I like it when Aggy gets destroyed on Saturdays. You go and bump every single Aggy vs. thread....except the one where everyone in the thread makes fun of your dumbass. Wonder why you choose to ignore that one??? Is it because it's the one that shows your true ignorance???
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 09:27 PM
lol you don't like when Aggy gets destroyed.
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 09:29 PM
lol you don't like when Aggy gets destroyed.
I like it when you still dodge my question.....it shows your incompetence.
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 09:30 PM
It shows you take this board too seriously.
The same nigga that runs to his computer to bump SEC threads on Saturdays is now resorting to playing the 'you take this board too seriously' card. What a retard.
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/heh.png
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 09:54 PM
The same nigga that runs to his computer to bump SEC threads on Saturdays is now resorting to playing the 'you take this board too seriously' card. What a retard.
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/heh.png
Speaking of taking this board too seriously, didn't you throw a temper tantrum to get that shitty messican flag under your name as if anyone gave a shit where you illegally migrated from?
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 10:05 PM
Speaking of taking this board too seriously, didn't you throw a temper tantrum to get that shitty messican flag under your name as if anyone gave a shit where you illegally migrated from?
Even people from messico (With no football teams) know what to do when they win the coin toss in overtime...:lmao
Now for the 25th time....Did you ever figure out which side you should choose first in college and pro overtime??
You're all over the place with your attempts to deflect away from a simple question. :lol
BTW not only do you run to ST every Saturday to bump threads but you probably have like 50k posts and multiple accounts on here. You have no room, retard.
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 10:08 PM
Even people from messico (With no football teams) know what to do when they win the coin toss in overtime...:lmao
Now for the 25th time....Did you ever figure out which side you should choose first in college and pro overtime??
How would they know if they have no football? :rollin genius
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 10:09 PM
You're all over the place with your attempts to deflect away from a simple question. :lol
BTW not only do you run to ST every Saturday to bump threads but you probably have like 50k posts and multiple accounts on here. You have no room, retard.
Answer my question, Paco.
Answer my question, Paco.
No, I didn't throw a temper tantrum. If I did post it.
Now can you answer mine, retard?
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 10:14 PM
No, I didn't throw a temper tantrum. If I did post it.
Now can you answer mine, retard?
:rollin
What exactly are laughing at? You asked a question and I answered with a simple no.
You're a special kind of retard. Like I said in another thread if you were a humble retard I'd actually feel bad for you.
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 10:17 PM
:rollin
Now for the 26th time....Did you ever figure out which side you choose first in college and pro overtimes???
:lmao Deflecting
:lmao Thinks he knows more than a SEC Football coach
:lmao My wife and dog know more than him
:lmao Bringing up Mexico
:lmao Bringing up meltdowns
:lmao Bringing up trannies
:lmao Dodging the questions
:lmao Dumbjohn
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 10:17 PM
What exactly are laughing at? You asked a question and I answered with a simple no.
You're a special kind of retard. Like I said in another thread if you were a humble retard I'd actually feel bad for you.
You lied
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 10:20 PM
Now for the 26th time....Did you ever figure out which side you choose first in college and pro overtimes???
:lmao Deflecting
:lmao Thinks he knows more than a SEC Football coach
:lmao My wife and dog know more than him
:lmao Bringing up Mexico
:lmao Bringing up meltdowns
:lmao Bringing up trannies
:lmao Dodging the questions
:lmao Dumbjohn
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/you%20mad/grand/you-mad-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-2458.gif
You lied
Post the quotes of my 'temper tantrum'. I've posted the quotes of you being a retard.
Why don't you answer the question I asked?
Now for the 26th time....Did you ever figure out which side you choose first in college and pro overtimes???
:lmao Deflecting
:lmao Thinks he knows more than a SEC Football coach
:lmao My wife and dog know more than him
:lmao Bringing up Mexico
:lmao Bringing up meltdowns
:lmao Bringing up trannies
:lmao Dodging the questions
:lmao Dumbjohn
That about sums it up.
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 10:25 PM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/you%20mad/grand/you-mad-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-2458.gif
Now for the 27th time.............................................. ...........................
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 10:28 PM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/you%20mad/grand/you-mad-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-2458.gif
Even Batman knows which side you should choose first when you win the coin toss..........:lmao
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 10:28 PM
Now for the 27th time.............................................. ...........................
http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/oprah-yourealmad.gif
Meltdown card. Check.
Take the forum too seriously card. Check.
Desperate deflections. Check.
You mad gifs. Check.
You're reeling, retard. http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/pachah1.png
djohn2oo8
10-24-2014, 11:13 PM
Meltdown card. Check.
Take the forum too seriously card. Check.
Desperate deflections. Check.
You mad gifs. Check.
You're reeling, retard. http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/pachah1.png
http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/oprah-yourealmad.gif
Henrik Sedin
10-24-2014, 11:23 PM
Djohn regulating..
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 11:40 PM
Now for the 28th time........
Silver&Black
10-24-2014, 11:46 PM
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leemajors
10-25-2014, 09:07 AM
We gotta have this spam shit in the College Forum now too?
jeebus
10-25-2014, 03:40 PM
:lmao djohn goin ham on the tranny lover and his bareback buddy
Silver&Black
10-25-2014, 04:39 PM
It's retarded to go defense first in college football when the ball is placed at the 25 yard line. It makes sense in the NFL because they have to drive the entire field.
SMH djohn. You should be banned from the college forum for a week.
:lmao
Just...wow.
You choose defense first so you can stop them and then win with a TD. Youre guaranteed to get the ball back no matter what. In the NFL they do sudden death so only a fucking retard would choose defense first.
FIFY. But yeah, don't waste your time trying to educate djohn. He's a bit slow.
Pretty much everyone gets it but you, tbh.
:lmao jeebus = djohns alt account
:lmao trying to stick up for a dumbass
:lmao pedo university
djohn2oo8
10-25-2014, 05:30 PM
^
http://artbecomesyou.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/giphy.gif?w=342&h=229
djohn2oo8
10-25-2014, 05:34 PM
:lmao djohn goin ham on the tranny lover and his bareback buddy
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9d/9d2983339555bffed3f3ff3cc3f52e4064c713df423f706536 d5151e29b61787.jpg
dirk4mvp
10-25-2014, 05:41 PM
ITT - minorities arguing
jeebus
10-25-2014, 05:53 PM
:lmao jeebus = djohns alt account
:lmao trying to stick up for a dumbass
:lmao pedo university
:lol you're taking this forum too seriously and are getting trolled beyond belief. :lmao fuckin retard
Silver&Black
10-25-2014, 05:58 PM
:lol you're taking this forum too seriously and are getting trolled beyond belief. :lmao fuckin retard
I could care less if I'm getting trolled...at least I know what side to choose first when I win the coin toss in overtime.
Now defend your boy......
Clipper Nation
10-25-2014, 06:26 PM
^
http://artbecomesyou.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/giphy.gif?w=342&h=229
:lmao
:lol you're taking this forum too seriously and are getting trolled beyond belief. :lmao fuckin retard
This is ironic coming from the dudes that form e-friendships and have each other's e-backs. Hey our boy dumbjohn is in trouble, let's go rescue him! Fucking faggots. :lol
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 05:35 PM
^
http://adaptershack.com/m/files/gifninja.com_animatedgifs_86417_i-ain-t-even-mad.gif
Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 05:45 PM
^
All the witty and funny gifs still doesn't mean you understand basic football strategy
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 05:50 PM
^
All the witty and funny gifs still doesn't mean you understand basic football strategy
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m28lh2sAtC1qh33kso2_500.gif
Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 05:57 PM
^
All the witty and funny gifs still doesn't mean you understand basic football strategy
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 06:01 PM
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Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 06:08 PM
No funny gifs for me....this does all my talking.
It's retarded to go defense first in college football when the ball is placed at the 25 yard line. It makes sense in the NFL because they have to drive the entire field.
:bang
https://i.imgflip.com/di1gc.jpg
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 06:14 PM
No funny gifs for me....this does all my talking.
:bang
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Lolumad_129b09_1014082.jpg
http://troll.me/images/retard-superman/i-troll-u-u-mad-.jpg
Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 06:31 PM
It's retarded to go defense first in college football when the ball is placed at the 25 yard line. It makes sense in the NFL because they have to drive the entire field.
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 06:44 PM
Got FKLA looking like a damn fool in here. Personally taking time to make his own memes :lol
http://troll.me/images/retard-superman/i-troll-u-u-mad-.jpg
Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 06:52 PM
Dude...you make yourself look like a fool with posts like this:
It's retarded to go defense first in college football when the ball is placed at the 25 yard line. It makes sense in the NFL because they have to drive the entire field.
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 06:54 PM
Dude...you make yourself look like a fool with posts like this:
Stats say otherwise.
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 06:55 PM
Got FKLA looking like a damn fool in here. Personally taking time to make his own memes :lol
Stats say otherwise.
What stats, retard? :rollin
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djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 07:03 PM
What stats, retard? :rollin
For regular season play, we need to take into account average time per possession. In 2013, this is 2:34, meaning we expect only about 3 drives per team before the 15-minute overtime period ends in a tie. Therefore, a more realistic probability distribution is:
http://i1.wp.com/harvardsportsanalysis.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NFL-Overtime-6.png?zoom=1.5&resize=604%2C41 (http://i1.wp.com/harvardsportsanalysis.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/NFL-Overtime-6.png)
Using identical sums as the infinite overtime model, the probability of the receiving team losing is .446, the probability of the receiving team winning is .507, and the probability of a tie is .047.
http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2014/01/modeling-nfl-overtime-as-a-markov-chain/
Let me know if you have trouble comprehending.
:lmao You god damn retard. You realize college football overtime is not 15 minutes long, right? You realize the rules behind it are completely different?
And if your retarded ass could comprehend what that says you'd also know that choosing defense first in the NFL makes no sense. The probability of the receiving team winning is .507, the probability of the receiving team losing is .446. Which number is greater, retard? You just keep providing retard gems and are too retarded to realize it.
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sabu.png
Dunning-Kruger Effect: Unskilled individuals tend to suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. In unskilled individuals, this bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.
^If dumbjohn isn't a classic example of it, then I don't know what is. Fucking UTSA flunkout flying the UT banner as if he ever stepped foot on that campus. :lol
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 07:20 PM
:lmao You god damn retard. You realize college football overtime is not 15 minutes long, right? You realize the rules behind it are completely different?
And if your retarded ass could comprehend what that says you'd also know that choosing defense first in the NFL makes no sense. The probability of the receiving team winning is .507, the probability of the receiving team losing is .446. Which number is greater, retard? You just keep providing retard gems and are too retarded to realize it.
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sabu.png
If you clicked on the link, you would see it's for the NFL dipshit. :lol
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 07:22 PM
You do realize 50-44 is not a big advantage like you were saying it was? :lol That was my point.
Here's what you said retard, dont move the goalposts:
It's retarded to go defense first in college football when the ball is placed at the 25 yard line. It makes sense in the NFL because they have to drive the entire field.
In reality defense first doesn't make any sense in the NFL. Defense first makes all the sense in the world in college. You had it completely backwards and are too retarded to realize it.
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 07:31 PM
Here's what you said retard, dont move the goalposts:
In reality defense first doesn't make any sense in the NFL. Defense first makes all the sense in the world in college. You had it completely backwards and are too retarded to realize it.
It apparently does make sense, there is not a big enough disadvantage to say it doesn't.
You go with the higher probability, retard. It doesn't matter if the difference is 'only' 6%...why would you bet on the lower probability? Take statistics out of it and just use common sense and it becomes even more clear. Why give them the ball and a chance to score to win the game when you can have the chance to do the same first?
Yet you'll sit there with a straight face and claim you went to UT. Fucking UTSA flunkout. :lol
Or you'll say shit like 'Let me know if you have trouble comprehending'. :lol
If you can't understand that simple concept about probability it's pretty safe to say you've never been anywhere near a statistics class. Fucking retard.
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 07:50 PM
You go with the higher probability, retard. It doesn't matter if the difference is 'only' 6%...why would you bet on the lower probability? Take statistics out of it and just use common sense and it becomes even more clear. Why give them the ball and a chance to score to win the game when you can have the chance to do the same first?
Yet you'll sit there with a straight face and claim you went to UT. Fucking UTSA flunkout. :lol
Because most drives in overtime (opening drives ) end up not scoring. (2013)
After a kickoff, drives end with the following frequencies (all stats from www.pro-football-reference.com (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/)):
Defensive TD: .020
Safety: .001
No Score: .661
FG: .118
TD: .200
So instead of taking the ball and that 31.8% chance of scoring a game-winning TD/FG you give them the ball and the 31.8% chance of winning the game? 31.8% is greater than the 0% chance you'd have if you choose defense dumbfuck.
lol UTSA flunkout
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 08:01 PM
NFL Overtime Summary, 1974-2012 Regular Season
Years
1974-2011
2012
Overtime games
477
22
OT coin-toss winner
252-208-17 (.546)
13-8-1 (.614)
Non-tie win %
52.8%
59.1%
Elected to receive
468 (98.1%)
22 (100.0%)
Both teams 1+ poss.
337 (70.7%)
19 (86.4%)
Opening drive winning score
140 (29.3%)
3 (13.6%)
Type
104 FG, 36 TD
3 TD
Games decided by FG
339 (71.1%)
17 (77.3%)
Games decided by TD
119 (24.9%)
4 (18.2%)
Games ending in tie
17 (3.6%)
1 (4.5%)
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 08:02 PM
^ Damn, look at all those opening drive beasts.
Its clear that you don't know how to interpret these stats and graphs so why even post them? If you weren't such a retard you'd realize these stats you are posting are actually destroying your own argument.
lol Dunning-Kruger
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 08:08 PM
Fact is even for an elite offense it is hard to go 80 yards for a touchdown, which is likely what you will have to do to win the game that way. Teams starting at their own 20 score a touchdown only about 16 percent of the time.
Throw in the fact the risk-averse coaches know they can still kick a field goal, and it’s not the obviously favorable scenario it may have once been in pure sudden death. Yet we have seen every single coach take the ball first this year.
How much good has that really done? This table shows the game flow in overtime in 2012. Obviously the team winning the coin toss and receiving had the ball on drives 1, 3 and 5. The opponent had it on drives 2, 4 and 6. “GW” means game-winning.
NFL 2012 Overtime Game-Ending Summary
Game-winning (GW) event
Games
Pct.
1st drive GW TD
3
13.6%
2nd drive GW defensive stop
3 (2 downs, 1 fumble)
13.6%
2nd drive GW score
6 (6 FG)
27.3%
3rd drive GW score
5 (5 FG)
22.7%
4th drive GW score
1 (1 FG)
4.5%
5th drive GW score
2 (1 TD, 1 FG)
9.1%
5th drive clock expires (tie)
1
4.5%
6th drive GW score
1 (1 FG)
4.5%
lol copy and pasting
lol too stupid to realize a low probability is better than no probability
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 08:15 PM
You said defense first in NFL overtime makes no sense, when I posted stats showing it does make sense. :lol You. I win.
You don't know how to interpret those stats, retard. There is a reason 99.9% of coaches choose offense first. But I'm sure in your little retarded brain it's just bc they aren't as smart as you.
lol Dunning-Kruger
djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 08:26 PM
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djohn2oo8
10-26-2014, 08:27 PM
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Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 09:58 PM
Wow dumbjohn....Wow.
In college...you play defense first.
In the pros...you play offense first.
That's it!!!!!!! No math needed....It's that simple.
Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 10:00 PM
College Rules-you play defense first because you want to know what your team has to meet or exceed. A bunch of questions like...do I have to go for it on 4th down...can I tie with a field goal...can I win with a field goal...do I have to score a touchdown....all these questions (and many many more) are answered for you...just simply by choosing to go on defense first.
Pro Rules- It has changed over the past few years. (Key thing is an opening drive field goal doesn't end the game now...i.e. the Peyton rule) Even with the changes...you always choose offense first. If you score a touchdown on your opening drive...game is over. dumbjohn...you're the kind of guy who kicks off in pro overtime and the other team runs the kickoff back. And you go home a loser.....
I can recall the great Bill Belicheat...choosing to go on defense first one game (it was windy as fuck). He took the wind and gave the other team the ball...however...it worked for him. The Pats still won. I remember people (it maybe dumb btw) saying that Bill should be fired. And this guy has rings in the trophy case. Because NOBODY chooses defense first in the pros....
Silver&Black
10-26-2014, 10:09 PM
You don't know how to interpret those stats, retard. There is a reason 99.9% of coaches choose offense first. But I'm sure in your little retarded brain it's just bc they aren't as smart as you.
lol Dunning-Kruger
It's not 99.9% this year....it's 100%. Look at dumbjohn's dumbass stats. He obviously didn't read the line:
"Yet we have seen every single coach take the ball first this year."
Guess me, you, and EVERY NFL coach isn't on dumbjohn's level.
djohn2oo8
10-27-2014, 08:54 AM
Still got you dummies going around in circles. It historically has not been a big advantage to get the ball first in the pros. With a small percentage winning the game after receiving the ball first and still not ending the game on the opening drive. Christ :lol
Blake
10-27-2014, 09:07 AM
I'm at a loss......
Still got you dummies going around in circles. It historically has not been a big advantage to get the ball first in the pros. With a small percentage winning the game after receiving the ball first and still not ending the game on the opening drive. Christ :lol
^Dunning-Kruger Effect: Unskilled individuals tend to suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. In unskilled individuals, this bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude.
Or in words you can understand... you are too stupid to realize how stupid you are. I think it's beyond your control at this point--no way would someone continue to display this behavior on purpose tbh.
Low Probability >> No Probability
Just stare at that for a while and maybe you'll get it, dumbjohn.
who is to say how bad this could have been for the aggies. as bad as a&m has been this season i couldn't have made a prediction about future seasons.
Silver&Black
10-27-2014, 06:10 PM
Still got you dummies going around in circles. It historically has not been a big advantage to get the ball first in the pros. With a small percentage winning the game after receiving the ball first and still not ending the game on the opening drive. Christ :lol
You're a fucking dumbass dumbjohn. Plain and simple...a fucking dumbass who knows absolutely nothing about football strategy.
Like I've said a million times...this isn't a my team is better than your team arguement (which basically never has a winner). You're dead wrong...and I'm dead right. If you can't see that...you're just a moron who obviously has never seen a college or pro overtime game.
And don't try to change the subject either...now you're talking winning %'s not being that different. You said that in college you're a retard if you choose defense 1st....and that it is only acceptable in the pros. Both of those statements are so fucking stupid. I mean for Christ's sake...look at your own stats. 99% of pro coaches choose to get the ball first. Why is that moron? Your logic is beyond fucking belief. I mean I knew this shit when I was 13 years old....why can't you figure it out???
pgardn
10-27-2014, 06:17 PM
who is to say how bad this could have been for the aggies. as bad as a&m has been this season i couldn't have made a prediction about future seasons.
What we got is 2 major fan bases following teams going backwards. Add UTSA to the mix, as this is a board involving SA, and it's been dismal. So the line at this point is, wait'll next year. I think.
You're a fucking dumbass dumbjohn. Plain and simple...a fucking dumbass who knows absolutely nothing about football strategy.
Like I've said a million times...this isn't a my team is better than your team arguement (which basically never has a winner). You're dead wrong...and I'm dead right. If you can't see that...you're just a moron who obviously has never seen a college or pro overtime game.
And don't try to change the subject either...now you're talking winning %'s not being that different. You said that in college you're a retard if you choose defense 1st....and that it is only acceptable in the pros. Both of those statements are so fucking stupid. I mean for Christ's sake...look at your own stats. 99% of pro coaches choose to get the ball first. Why is that moron? Your logic is beyond fucking belief. I mean I knew this shit when I was 13 years old....why can't you figure it out???
Honestly bro, I don't think it's a logic thing as much as it is stupidity on his part. He probably went out and researched those stats thinking he'd come off as smart and shit. Turns out he's just showing his stupidity by not being able to interpret them. A low probability to score a game-winning TD is better than no probability if you choose defense, and he can't grasp that simple concept apparently. Too bad he's not a humble retard or else I'd probably offer him a helping hand tbh.
What we got is 2 major fan bases following teams going backwards. Add UTSA to the mix, as this is a board involving SA, and it's been dismal. So the line at this point is, wait'll next year. I think.
that definitely seems to be the case this season.
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