WEEK 8 Game thread sponsored by Avante's predictions

[The Gemini Method]

Hopefully it's not another debacle like what happened in the Lou.

I'd like to see Richardson stay the primary on kickoff returns, Walters on punts.

After seeing what the Chiefs did to the Rams, I would agree with you. We should've won that game. No excuses. The Rams out hustled us and out thought us that day in the Lou. I'm telling you--winning that title has made our team fat with success and so they start to think they can just show up. Remember last year when the mantra was every week is Championship week? That was the epitome of going all out for that game, for that time. Now you don't hear it--all you hear is bickering about in-fighting or the future of your status or how the locker room is. This has become a distraction.

[spurraider21]

Deal.

I'm just hoping it's not over 8 points :lol


I see nothing wrong with this: I'm in!
:lmao raiders open as 15 point dogs

[The Gemini Method]

:lmao raiders open as 15 point dogs

Fuck it. Why not ride with it...if the Browns can kill 'em...

[Spur-Addict]

After seeing what the Chiefs did to the Rams, I would agree with you. We should've won that game. No excuses. The Rams out hustled us and out thought us that day in the Lou. I'm telling you--winning that title has made our team fat with success and so they start to think they can just show up. Remember last year when the mantra was every week is Championship week? That was the epitome of going all out for that game, for that time. Now you don't hear it--all you hear is bickering about in-fighting or the future of your status or how the locker room is. This has become a distraction.

Not too many vets with voices, all the young guns at the helm now. So there's a power grab in the locker room and it has to work itself out. Actually, it's pretty set in stone and niggas have to accept it :lol. And times are a changin', so some are reluctant to relinquish. We have been beat up pretty good so far, and det schedule is no pushover when you take into account the division games on top of it. Packers, Chargers, Broncos to start the year? But we are the defending champs so it's understandable. I'm just mad at the St. Louis loss, the others are OK.

[Spur-Addict]

:lmao raiders open as 15 point dogs

REALLY? FUCK. :lol

[The Gemini Method]

Not too many vets with voices, all the young guns at the helm now. So there's a power grab in the locker room and it has to work itself out. Actually, it's pretty set in stone and niggas have to accept it :lol. And times are a changin', so some are reluctant to relinquish. We have been beat up pretty good so far, and det schedule is no pushover when you take into account the division games on top of it. Packers, Chargers, Broncos to start the year? But we are the defending champs so it's understandable. I'm just mad at the St. Louis loss, the others are OK.

That Rams loss...though, to be fair, last year we should've lost vs. the Rams in the Lou as well. I thought we would be 5-2 and that would've been alright. I mean, we did beat the Packers and Broncos so the 4 wins are not so-so wins. Also, to beat a team 3 straight times at their place is a tough thing to do in any sport let alone the NFL. Definitely got to stop thinking like kings and play like warriors.

[Spur-Addict]

That Rams loss...though, to be fair, last year we should've lost vs. the Rams in the Lou as well. I thought we would be 5-2 and that would've been alright. I mean, we did beat the Packers and Broncos so the 4 wins are not so-so wins. Also, to beat a team 3 straight times at their place is a tough thing to do in any sport let alone the NFL. Definitely got to stop thinking like kings and play like warriors.

Oh for sure we have 3 quality wins, Washington is going through some things but still being competitive. We did escape St. Louis last year, but that's our division. Tough games, a lot of familiarity. Except for week 1, we really haven't put a full game together. Well, that Denver game we did until late in the fourth. I would like to see a well rounded victory. All of the games have pretty much been close though. No one has demolished us so I thin if we can string a few together we'll be just fine.

[The Gemini Method]

Rams and then the Giants...both at home? So that'll be a spot that we should be 6-3. Although the Giants are no slouch this year and I'd expect a different outcome than the 23-0 showing we had last year. They need to stop responding to these asinine media reports about Wilson being an Uncle Tom or Lynch choosing Starburst over Skittles shit. That drivel will bring you down. Heavy is the head...

[Spur-Addict]

Raiders, Giants, Chiefs, Cards are the next four. Only KC is on the road. Need at least 3 of the 4 because the next 4 after that are: S.F, Philly, S.F, Arizona. Only one of which is at home (2nd S.F game).

[The Gemini Method]

Raiders, Giants, Chiefs, Cards are the next four. Only KC is on the road. Need at least 3 of the 4 because the next 4 after that are: S.F, Philly, S.F, Arizona. Only one of which is at home (2nd S.F game).

I think we for sure beat the raiders and giants. After that, its going to be difficult to call. 5-2 would put us at 11-5. That would be awesome but I don't know. This team has been up and down all year.

[Blizzardwizard]

Dave Dameshek's Football baby went 4-0 (3-1*) this week. Better than Avante...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-podcasts/0ap3000000416296/DDFP-TV-Introducing-Football-Baby

[The Gemini Method]

The baby did better than the Charks did this week, too. :cry Kings of California :cry

[Blizzardwizard]

The baby did better than the Charks did this week, too. :cry Kings of California :cry

:cry :cry :cry

[Spur-Addict]

I think we for sure beat the raiders and giants. After that, its going to be difficult to call. 5-2 would put us at 11-5. That would be awesome but I don't know. This team has been up and down all year.

Weeks 11-16 are just brutal. Schedule makers can go fuck themselves.

[The Gemini Method]

Weeks 11-16 are just brutal. Schedule makers can go fuck themselves.

Yeah that near turnaround with our biggest rivals was stupid. Now it can break one of ours seasons and take from a chance to have one of those classic tilts in the beginning of the season and then have one when the playoff chase is heating up. Who the fuck does that to the SB champs :cry.

[Blizzardwizard]

Superbowl champions should always get the toughest schedule..

[Spur-Addict]

Yeah that near turnaround with our biggest rivals was stupid. Now it can break one of ours seasons and take from a chance to have one of those classic tilts in the beginning of the season and then have one when the playoff chase is heating up. Who the fuck does that to the SB champs :cry.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/je5fgRU3Xg8/hqdefault.jpg

The devil Bobby Boucher

[The Gemini Method]

Superbowl champions should always get the toughest schedule..

Granted, but to take away primetime games @ the CLink because :cry teams can't win there :cry...and backloading our schedule was lame. I guess though, being that you're a Charger fan and a Chark fan...you wouldn't know much about that :cry

[Spur-Addict]

Granted, but to take away primetime games @ the CLink because :cry teams can't win there :cry...and backloading our schedule was lame. I guess though, being that you're a Charger fan and a Chark fan...you wouldn't know much about that :cry

Admittedly, which is all the more fucked up. But w/e, if we manage to get back in the playoffs and make some noise, it'll be a big fuck you.

[Spur-Addict]

Granted, but to take away primetime games @ the CLink because :cry teams can't win there :cry...and backloading our schedule was lame. I guess though, being that you're a Charger fan and a Chark fan...you wouldn't know much about that :cry

Admittedly, which is all the more fucked up. But w/e, if we manage to get back in the playoffs and make some noise, it'll be a big fuck you.

[Blizzardwizard]

Granted, but to take away primetime games @ the CLink because :cry teams can't win there :cry...and backloading our schedule was lame. I guess though, being that you're a Charger fan and a Chark fan...you wouldn't know much about that :cry

I know banner night was ruined for you, let it all out :cry

[Clipper Nation]

I know banner night was ruined for you, let it all out :cry

:lol Thinking anything could ruin banner night

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol Thinking anything could ruin banner night

Let it allll out. :cry

[Clipper Nation]

Let it allll out. :cry

:lol There's nothing to let out. Once that banner was raised and the rings were handed out, zero fucks were given for the rest of the night.

[Blizzardwizard]

:lol There's nothing to let out. Once that banner was raised and the rings were handed out, zero fucks were given for the rest of the night.

You keep telling yourself that, champ :cry

[spurraider21]

You keep telling yourself that, champ :cry
:rollin thinking anybody cares about the first regular season game after winning a championship

the only exception to that would be for football

[Clipper Nation]

You keep telling yourself that, champ :cry

Yes, I am a champ... unlike the Sharts :downspin:

[Blizzardwizard]

:rollin thinking anybody cares about the first regular season game after winning a championship

the only exception to that would be for football


:cry :cry :cry

[Blizzardwizard]

Yes, I am a champ... unlike the Sharts :downspin:

:cry

[Blizzardwizard]

Damn I'm harvesting those tears tonight :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

...tha fuck is this faggoty grab-ass shit in here? Seattle's gonna win 48-10. I got a real bet for our new Seahawk fans though--$500 that says they don't win a playoff game this year.

[spurraider21]

...tha fuck is this faggoty grab-ass shit in here? Seattle's gonna win 48-10. I got a real bet for our new Seahawk fans though--$500 that says they don't win a playoff game this year.
i'll take the raiders +37.5 tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'll give you Raiders +23.5 for $200 ($100 if you're strapped right now). That's 8.5 above the current line w/o any teasing or odds--you'll never get a better deal than that from any bookie in your lifetime.

[spurraider21]

I'll give you Raiders +23.5 for $200 ($100 if you're strapped right now). That's 8.5 above the current line w/o any teasing or odds--you'll never get a better deal than that from any bookie in your lifetime.
ill take it for 100, dont work nearly as much during this time of the year

[DeadlyDynasty]

deal:tu

[spurraider21]

affirmative

Operation Garbage Time is a go

[DeadlyDynasty]

Operation Garbage Time
Where Wilson shines

[Malik Hairston]

Damn, that's some nice value for spurraider, tbh..

[Avante]

Seattle kicks off, Raiders run it back, now it's Oakland 30.5 Seattle 0.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Seattle kicks off, Raiders run it back, now it's Oakland 30.5 Seattle 0.

Best case scenario: Seattle covers my big-dick-swingin spread.

Worst case scenario: I lose and am only 24 games better than your betting record.

[chunticakes]

Best case scenario: Seattle covers my big-dick-swingin spread.

Worst case scenario: I lose and am only 24 games better than your betting record.

OWNED. :lol

[chunticakes]

But really, Seattle is gonna win by at least four TDs. The playoff bet is the one I'm interested in. I honestly don't see them winning a playoff game.

[Avante]

Best case scenario: Seattle covers my big-dick-swingin spread.

Worst case scenario: I lose and am only 24 games better than your betting record.

So where are you getting your picks from?

[Avante]

But really, Seattle is gonna win by at least four TDs. The playoff bet is the one I'm interested in. I honestly don't see them winning a playoff game.

I'll take that 28 points, 30 days self bannishment, deal? Other than on Sundays, ok?

[chunticakes]

I'll take that 28 points, 30 days self bannishment, deal? Other than on Sundays, ok?

Lol with a renown welcher like yourself Avante? It'd be a lose lose for me.

I only bet for money and with people who don't welch.

[Avante]

Lol with a renown welcher like yourself Avante? It'd be a lose lose for me.

I only bet for money and with people who don't welch.

I don't welch, I just mess with known pricks, ok? That isn't you.

I'm serious, I can see you weren't.

[chunticakes]

I don't welch, I just mess with known pricks, ok? That isn't you.

I'm serious, I can see you weren't.

$200 says my picks ATS this week beat yours.

[Avante]

$200 says my picks ATS this week beat yours.


I never bet $$$ with strangers.

Let's get back to that....will win by 4 tds.....no they won't. We'll see a 31=10 type game.

[chunticakes]

I never bet $$$ with strangers.

Let's get back to that....will win by 4 tds.....no they won't. We'll see a 31=10 type game.

Lol what you're scared? $200 is chump change man.

[Avante]

Lol what you're scared? $200 is chum change man.

I don't trust ya slick, ok?

Now getting back to....they will win by 4 TD's....ok? No they won't!

[DeadlyDynasty]

So where are you getting your picks from?
I pick every game each week--spend about 10-15 seconds on each pick then voila...greatness happens

[AlexJones]

Take it easy on the old man, D.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't welch
:lmao good one

[Avante]

I pick every game each week--spend about 10-15 seconds on each pick then voila...greatness happens

So ya just get lucky, cool~~~~~~~

[Avante]

Take it easy on the old man, D.

That coming from a lowly Lions fan, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only NFC team to have never played in a SB, hahahaha!!!!!!!

[chunticakes]

So ya just get lucky, cool~~~~~~~

dedly has been killing it. he's something like 65-35.

[Avante]

dedly has been killing it. he's something like 65-35.

That really is a...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's impressive, especially if it is just......what the hell...with no knowledge of anything pertaining to trends/stats. Curious how far luck will go however.

[chunticakes]

That really is a...wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's impressive, especially if it is just......what the hell...with no knowledge of anything pertaining to trends/stats. Curious how far luck will go however.
DD is my hero. He makes his picks from the CHOPPA. The altitude and cocaine gives him clartity. You can learn a thing or two lil fella.

[dirk4mvp]

^:lol calling a tub-gut lil

[DeadlyDynasty]

So ya just get lucky, cool~~~~~~~
well, yeah...that's betting. When you think about it, is it better to make a quick take and get lucky or study years of trends and constantly lose?

[DeadlyDynasty]

DD (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12607) is my hero. He makes his picks from the CHOPPA. The altitude and cocaine gives him clartity. You can learn a thing or two lil fella.
In AFG now...no birds and blow anymore:cry

[Avante]

well, yeah...that's betting. When you think about it, is it better to make a quick take and get lucky or study years of trends and constantly lose?

I'm up not down $$$$, so constantly lose isn't accurate. And I haven't lost any $$$$ vs the NFL in over a decade. Sure, first starting out.

Ok man give me your opinion on the Panthers vs Saints game. Curious to see how you break a potential play down.

[Spur-Addict]

:lol "New".

BTW, you still haven't shared any of your expertise in regards to handling post SB success, being a Bills fan I figured you should have a wealth of knowledge on the subject seeing as how you could study so many others that have been there. No biggie, perhaps one day you'll share.

In regards to your bet proposal, I do not make emotional bets. From an emotionless non-biased perspective, you are actually proposing two bets disguised as one. The first, being that the Seahawks actually make the playoffs. The second, that they win a game if/when they get there. Seeing as how the record stands at 4-3 midway through the year, with a vicious back end, it is unwise to take such a bet that's clearly stacked against our heroes. If you would've proposed this prior to week 1, I would've been more inclined to take the bet. If however the Hawks end up making the postseason and you'd still like to place a bet, then I would be far more open to that proposal when the odds are more even.

But, nice try :lol

[spurraider21]

I'm up not down $$$$, so constantly lose isn't accurate. And I haven't lost any $$$$ vs the NFL in over a decade. Sure, first starting out.

Ok man give me your opinion on the Panthers vs Saints game. Curious to see how you break a potential play down.
probably starts by not giving a shit about games from 2005

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

And I haven't lost any $$$$ vs the NFL in over a decade

:lmao
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[Avante]

probably starts by not giving a shit about games from 2005

Other than some really strong trends standing the test of time like.....Steelers haven't lost a MNF game at home in 23 years....or the Raiders haven't won in the eastern time zone since the pilgrims landed.......I don't go back any further than last season and usually start over with a new coach. But to totally history is silly, just look at the Pats, they are always in the play off hunt as players come and go...why? Yep, the best coach/QB combo in the league.

Look at what your Raiders did under Allen, yep, sucked! They went 12-20ATS heading into 2014, so just play against them and win.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm up not down $$$$, so constantly lose isn't accurate. And I haven't lost any $$$$ vs the NFL in over a decade. Sure, first starting out.

Ok man give me your opinion on the Panthers vs Saints game. Curious to see how you break a potential play down.
Give me the line (the real one) and where it's being played....all betting sites are blocked out here due to GO1

[Avante]

The current line is No -2.5, go ahead break it down, remember it's a Thursday night game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol "New".

BTW, you still haven't shared any of your expertise in regards to handling post SB success, being a Bills fan I figured you should have a wealth of knowledge on the subject seeing as how you could study so many others that have been there. No biggie, perhaps one day you'll share.

In regards to your bet proposal, I do not make emotional bets. From an emotionless non-biased perspective, you are actually proposing two bets disguised as one. The first, being that the Seahawks actually make the playoffs. The second, that they win a game if/when they get there. Seeing as how the record stands at 4-3 midway through the year, with a vicious back end, it is unwise to take such a bet that's clearly stacked against our heroes. If you would've proposed this prior to week 1, I would've been more inclined to take the bet. If however the Hawks end up making the postseason and you'd still like to place a bet, then I would be far more open to that proposal when the odds are more even.

But, nice try :lol
First part, way too long a setup and very try-hard...killed your own joke before it ever got off the ground.

Second, the Seahawks control their own destiny in the division, and will more than likely will be only one game out of the lead by end of this weekend. A SB-champion in prime position to re-claim the division is not good enough for you, though. You'll only make a play when it's a sure-thing, much like RW in the SB

[DeadlyDynasty]

The current line is No -2.5, go ahead break it down, remember it's a Thursday night game.
The Saints are abysmal on the road--particularly on grass, TNF. Carolina will not be that inept on offense (at home) 2 weeks in a row. Look for Benjamin to have 150+ yds and for the Panthers to win outright

[Darth_Pelican]

The Saints are abysmal on the road--particularly on grass, TNF. Carolina will not be that inept on offense (at home) 2 weeks in a row. Look for Benjamin to have 150+ yds and for the Panthers to win outright

Sooner or later, the Saints are going to take all of that road struggle frustration and just plain demolish someone away from the dome. I think this could be the game that happens. This game is so important in turning the season around and getting back to their goal this season, which was to contend for it all. Even though it goes against all recent logic, it wouldn't surprise me if the Saints win this game big. like 38-13.

[Avante]

The Saints are abysmal on the road--particularly on grass, TNF. Carolina will not be that inept on offense (at home) 2 weeks in a row. Look for Benjamin to have 150+ yds and for the Panthers to win outright

We have conflicting trends here, all the historical stats point towards Carolina in this "spot". Then we have the "better QB on Thursday night"? factor. So far this season the winner of these Thursday games had the better QB with the exception of week one and Seattle beating Green Bay, but there we had an unusual home field advantage.

So to try and battle conflicting trends/situations.....why?

[Avante]

Sooner or later, the Saints are going to take all of that road struggle frustration and just plain demolish someone away from the dome. I think this could be the game that happens. This game is so important in turning the season around and getting back to their goal this season, which was to contend for it all. Even though it goes against all recent logic, it wouldn't surprise me if the Saints win this game big. like 38-13.


I have no problems seeing that, they have Ingram running better than ever.Now add Newton playing worst than ever.

[Spur-Addict]

First part, way too long a setup and very try-hard...killed your own joke before it ever got off the ground.

Second, the Seahawks control their own destiny in the division, and will more than likely will be only one game out of the lead by end of this weekend. A SB-champion in prime position to re-claim the division is not good enough for you, though. You'll only make a play when it's a sure-thing, much like RW in the SB

I didn't attempt to setup any sort of joke, just getting a point across. A polite "fuck you", if you will.

And from the sharp mind of Chip Kelly: "You know you can't control destiny. Destiny is a predetermined set of events, therefore if it's predetermined you can't control it."

It's looking at what has transpired, and what's in the future, and making an assessment. And the odds aren't remotely 50/50, and you know it LOL. Why should I take a bet that isn't near even, that's lopsided in my opponents favor? Ohhhh, because it's my team and I should beat my chest and prove my loyalty and belief in my team etc etc so on and so forth.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I didn't attempt to setup any sort of joke, just getting a point across. A polite "fuck you", if you will.

And from the sharp mind of Chip Kelly: "You know you can't control destiny. Destiny is a predetermined set of events, therefore if it's predetermined you can't control it."

It's looking at what has transpired, and what's in the future, and making an assessment. And the odds aren't remotely 50/50, and you know it LOL. Why should I take a bet that isn't near even, that's lopsided in my opponents favor? Ohhhh, because it's my team and I should beat my chest and prove my loyalty and belief in my team etc etc so on and so forth.
:lolWhat a fucking hatchet wound you are, dropping philosophical ramblings in an attempt to get out of a bet. You're always beating your chest about the Seahawks, yet when money is involved dem nuts shrivel to the size of raisins.

Here's what I got out of that shitty, nonsensical post of yours:

"I don't believe the Seahawks can win a playoff game this year." There, just say it and it'll feel better. Do not respond to me again unless you put cash on the table. Your opinions aren't worthy enough and you need to pay for my time.

[Spur-Addict]

:lolWhat a fucking hatchet wound you are, dropping philosophical ramblings in an attempt to get out of a bet. You're always beating your chest about the Seahawks, yet when money is involved dem nuts shrivel to the size of raisins.

Here's what I got out of that shitty, nonsensical post of yours:

"I don't believe the Seahawks can win a playoff game this year." There, just say it and it'll feel better. Do not respond to me again unless you put cash on the table. Your opinions aren't worthy enough and you need to pay for my time.

:cry "You're not a real man, and making rash emotionally based decisions"

[DeadlyDynasty]

Betting on football is an emotional experience for you?

[Spur-Addict]

In this situation, emotion would have to over power logic. When all the aspects of it are out on the table, logic says more than tread lightly. I always Billieve in my teams, no matter what. And I'll tell you that they'll come through when the chips are down. But, (this is obvious in saying) that's not a smart way to bet.

[DeadlyDynasty]

So you're saying logic/common sense dictates the Seahawks won't win a playoff game?

[Spur-Addict]

I'm saying logic says it would be very difficult to attain, the odds aren't favorable that they make the playoffs. They literally have to run a gauntlet. I'm not saying they won't. If they make the playoffs, I think they'll win a game, home or road.

These are the last 7 games of the year (As you already know, and thus proposed the bet LOL):

@K.C
Arizona
@49ers
@.Philadelphia
49ers
@.Arizona
Rams

[Pelicans78]

The Saints are abysmal on the road--particularly on grass, TNF. Carolina will not be that inept on offense (at home) 2 weeks in a row. Look for Benjamin to have 150+ yds and for the Panthers to win outright

Saints should beat the fuck out of this team. Carolina will always be inept on offense because they have a shitty o-line, only one good WR and Cam is still their QB. Saints should win by two TDs tonight. If not, its on Brees and Payton. No excuse for losing to this shitty ass team.

[spurraider21]

that comment would persuade me a lot more if you didnt have a huge saints emblem under your username

[Darth_Pelican]

Sooner or later, the Saints are going to take all of that road struggle frustration and just plain demolish someone away from the dome. I think this could be the game that happens. This game is so important in turning the season around and getting back to their goal this season, which was to contend for it all. Even though it goes against all recent logic, it wouldn't surprise me if the Saints win this game big. like 38-13.

:tu

[Pelicans78]

that comment would persuade me a lot more if you didnt have a huge saints emblem under your username

I told you the Saints would kick their asses. Panthers suck this season just like we were telling Frizzle. He was in denial.

[spurraider21]

didn't say it was impossible, but i always take it with a grain of salt when a fan of a team says their team will win

[spurraider21]

I'll give you Raiders +23.5 for $200 ($100 if you're strapped right now). That's 8.5 above the current line w/o any teasing or odds--you'll never get a better deal than that from any bookie in your lifetime.


ill take it for 100, dont work nearly as much during this time of the year


deal:tu


affirmative

Operation Garbage Time is a go
$

[spurraider21]

sig/avatar/caption bet, but we go by the spread rather than straight up.

since i'm betting 2 people, if i win, i decide each of your sigs/avatars/captions for 1 week, and if you guys win, i will take 2 weeks of similar punishment, one of you overseeing one week, the other overseeing a second week


I see nothing wrong with this: I'm in!


Deal.

I'm just hoping it's not over 8 points :lol
i'll PM details at some point tonight :lol

[Spur-Addict]

:cry

[DeadlyDynasty]

what's your pp?

[spurraider21]

pm'ed

[The Gemini Method]

I'm here to own up to my penance! Glad we won--but it still looks like we can't hold on to a lead for shit.