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Splits
11-18-2014, 11:28 PM
Exactly...TCU would get destroyed by Alabama this year just like Oklahoma destroyed Alabama last year.
And thanks to the overwhelming SEC bias of the playoff committee we won't have an actual game to prove it, but instead have to trust the otherworldly, unbiased opinion of some Miss St dropout on Spurstalk to know the answer. smh
Silver&Black
11-18-2014, 11:46 PM
And thanks to the overwhelming SEC bias of the playoff committee we won't have an actual game to prove it, but instead have to trust the otherworldly, unbiased opinion of some Miss St dropout on Spurstalk to know the answer. smh
dropout? LOL
I majored in Civil Engineering (BTW...one of the hardest degrees to acquire from Miss. St.) and minored in Mathematics. Also, Miss. St. has one of the top Civil Engineering programs in the country. I passed the FE Exam...and am currently studying to take the PE Exam. I'm certified to be a Structural, Construction, Environmental, Water Resources, and Transportation Engineer....what do you have?
Once again....making up shit. Want to work some Calculus, Differential Equations, or Linear Algebra problems? Do you even know what I'm talking about? Or did your math classes stop at Geometry or Trigonometry? I'm more qualified to teach Mathematics than your last Math Professor.....
Splits
11-19-2014, 12:11 AM
dropout? LOL
I majored in Civil Engineering (BTW...one of the hardest degrees to acquire from Miss. St.) and minored in Mathematics. Also, Miss. St. has one of the top Civil Engineering programs in the country. I passed the FE Exam...and am currently studying to take the PE Exam. I'm certified to be a Structural, Construction, Environmental, Water Resources, and Transportation Engineer....what do you have?
Once again....making up shit. Want to work some Calculus, Differential Equations, or Linear Algebra problems? Do you even know what I'm talking about? Or did your math classes stop at Geometry or Trigonometry? I'm more qualified to teach Mathematics than your last Math Professor.....
:lmao what the fuck is wrong with you? Writing a diatribe on some throwaway line that has nothing to do with the topic at hand? :lol you need to work on your self esteem, ole pal.
But if you want to go down that route, I took AP Calculus I & II in HS and got college credit for them, also minored in Mathematics, doubled-majored in CompSci & EE, and have dominated my trade for the past 15 years, lived in 4 different countries, speak 3 languages, and earned more than you'll ever sniff.
Oh, and :lol
http://i.imgur.com/lmirP6O.png
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 12:39 AM
BTW...did they teach you to check and re-check things before you declare them facts? Cause you're terrible/awful at that tbh. But you're great at posting pics of children crying because they lost a loved one in a bonfire accident. lulz can't build a campfire...
You're a terrible human being Splits....all the languages you speak and countries you've lived in will never change that.
But keep waving that Big 12 flag...that's the only thing I find even somewhat decent about you.
Splits
11-19-2014, 12:56 AM
BTW...did they teach you to check and re-check things before you declare them facts? Cause you're terrible/awful at that tbh. But you're great at posting pics of children crying because they lost a loved one in a bonfire accident. lulz can't build a campfire...
You're a terrible human being Splits....all the languages you speak and countries you've lived in will never change that.
But keep waving that Big 12 flag...that's the only thing I find even somewhat decent about you.
Says the Internet White Knight with South Park toons as his avi.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Irwin.PNG
:cry it's too soon :cry
Damn someone get Splits some heavy flow tampons. This is embarrassing tbh.
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 01:05 AM
Says the guy with South Park toons as his avi.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Irwin.PNG
:cry it's too soon :cry
One is a cartoon that has never hurt anyone....and one is a real life tragedy? How are they related?
Dude....just stick to making up shit, crying bout the SEC is treated differently, and posting offensive pics. You're good at those.....
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:08 AM
One is a cartoon that has never hurt anyone....and one is a real life tragedy? How are they related?
Are you really too stupid to make the connection? Or are you saying Steve Irwin's death wasn't a tragedy?
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 01:17 AM
Are you really too stupid to make the connection? Or are you saying Steve Irwin's death wasn't a tragedy?
The Playoff committee has got you all up in arms today doesn't it?
Get used to it Splits.....they think the SEC is god's conference....and the Big 12 is a pile of shit. You should be more mad at them than me....tbh. I had nothing to do with it....I promise.
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:18 AM
The Playoff committee has got you all up in arms today doesn't it?
Get used to it Splits.....they think the SEC is god's conference....and the Big 12 is a pile of shit. You should be more mad at them than me....tbh. I had nothing to do with it....I promise.
:lol further deflection
:lol won't answer the question when called out
at least you're finally admitting there is an undeniable bias in the playoff committee :cry all I asked is for you to admit it. I win :cry
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:21 AM
Damn someone get Splits some heavy flow tampons. This is embarrassing tbh.
Pretty sure that's S&B on the bottom, you on top...
http://i.minus.com/ibf3diq5xZFztW.gif
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 01:25 AM
:lol further deflection
:lol won't answer the question when called out
Yeah...I'll answer your question. I'm a hypocrite. I'll admit it...South Park does use some of their skits in terribly bad taste.
Now answer mine:
Do you just make up shit on the fly to help support your own opinions?
One More:
Did the playoff committee's rankings today get you all butthurt? And did you start crying like a 9 year old girl afterwards?
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:33 AM
Yeah...I'll answer your question. I'm a hypocrite. I'll admit it...South Park does use some of their skits in terribly bad taste.
Now answer mine:
Do you just make up shit on the fly to help support your own opinions?
Be more specific.
One More:
Did the playoff committee's rankings today get you all butthurt? And did you start crying like a 9 year old girl afterwards?
No. If you know how to use this forum, on the bottom of the page you can choose page 7 of this thread. Then, you can read my posts and see me predicting that Miss St. would be in the top 4 unjustifiably. Today simply proved my point, that the SEC is treated with kid-gloves and there is a double-standard with the playoff committee. Last week it was "TCU is rated ahead of Baylor because of top-25 wins" and this week it is "ummmm I don't know but Miss St. must have some big wins cuz Argy LSU blahhhhaaaaaa".
So yeah, I'm consistent. You're just throwing shit on a wall to see what sticks.
Pretty sure that's S&B on the bottom, you on top...
http://www.pbh2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sports-fails-gifs-basketball-trick.gif
Pic doesn't work for me. Try to repost it, maybe that will cover up how salty you are about the SEC. :lol
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:40 AM
Pic doesn't work for me. Try to repost it, maybe that will cover up how salty you are about the SEC. :lol
Upgrade your flip-phone.
Or click this link: http://www.pbh2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sports-fails-gifs-basketball-trick.gif
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:42 AM
:lmao @ me can't see the GIF on my iPad
:cry oops I made a mistake I hope S&B can forgive me :cry
http://i.minus.com/ibf3diq5xZFztW.gif
No. If you know how to use this forum, on the bottom of the page you can choose page 7 of this thread. Then, you can read my posts and see me predicting that Miss St. would be in the top 4 unjustifiably. Today simply proved my point, that the SEC is treated with kid-gloves and there is a double-standard with the playoff committee. Last week it was "TCU is rated ahead of Baylor because of top-25 wins" and this week it is "ummmm I don't know but Miss St. must have some big wins cuz Argy LSU blahhhhaaaaaa".
So yeah, I'm consistent. You're just throwing shit on a wall to see what sticks.
This isn't a system, dummy. It's subjective human opinion.
My take on this is...the committee (and the large majority of people) think Bama at home is considerably better than Baylor at home. True it's all based on an eye test but isn't that the whole idea behind forming a committee? Keep thinking it's an SEC conspiracy though if it makes you feel better.
:lmao @ me can't see the GIF on my iPad
smh
Splits
11-19-2014, 01:52 AM
This isn't a system, dummy. It's subjective human opinion.
My take on this is...the committee (and the large majority of people) think Bama at home is considerably better than Baylor at home. True it's all based on an eye test but isn't that the whole idea behind forming a committee?
No, "eye-test" is subjective.
"Number of top-25 wins" is objective.
The committee clearly stated last week, when defining the most important characteristics of their ranking system, that the number of top-25 wins was paramount. Yet this week, TCU has 3, Miss St has 1, yet that is not reflected in the rankings.
If the committee chose to include 4-loss teams Argy and LSU in the top-25, then you have a "SOS" argument. But they didn't.
It's hypocrisy at the highest level.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 01:58 AM
Honestly Splits I swear to God (or a flying spaghetti monster...since we're talking about South Park)....I had nothing to do with the rankings today. Absolutely nothing....
Your saltiness and butthurt-ness has nothing to do with me. The only reason I even responded to you is because you posted (then you moved the goalposts tbh) that MSU plays a "weak" schedule. Which is beyond retarded if you ask anyone who knows anything about college football.
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 02:04 AM
:cry oops I made a mistake I hope S&B can forgive me :cry
You don't have to ask for forgiveness...I know a honest mistake when I see one.
@ Auburn > vs KState
@ LSU > vs Oklahoma
@ Bama > @ Baylor
lol at trying to give TCU the nod bc they beat Minnesota in Forth Worth
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:12 AM
@ Auburn > vs KState
@ LSU > vs Oklahoma
@ Bama > @ Baylor
lol at trying to give TCU the nod bc they beat Minnesota in Forth Worth
I didn't rank Minnesota 25th, the committee did. And I complained about it if you know how to read a thread in sequence.
And Oklahoma > Bama until they meet again. Freshman QB shredded their "defense" for 45pts in a BCS game and Okie returned 23/24 starters.
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:16 AM
Your saltiness and butthurt-ness has nothing to do with me. The only reason I even responded to you is because you posted (then you moved the goalposts tbh) that MSU plays a "weak" schedule. Which is beyond retarded if you ask anyone who knows anything about college football.
Get over yourself, learn to read, and quit with the "moving the goalposts" nonsense. I clearly showed my beef about Miss St. weak schedule when compared to other 1-loss teams. I'm still waiting for the list of significant wins by the Bulldogs, btw.
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 02:17 AM
Splits...this is the real enemy. Not me......
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Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 02:19 AM
^
edit: remove Archie Manning. One less SEC member tbh....
:rollin
What next bro...Tech > Arizona State until they beat them ?
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 02:24 AM
Get over yourself, learn to read, and quit with the "moving the goalposts" nonsense. I clearly showed my beef about Miss St. weak schedule when compared to other 1-loss teams. I'm still waiting for the list of significant wins by the Bulldogs, btw.
Say the following sentences out loud:
Alabama plays a weak schedule....
Auburn plays a weak schedule....
Ole Miss plays a weak schedule...
MSU plays a weak schedule...
LSU plays a weak schedule....
If the first thing that goes through your brain is WTF did I just say....then you are competent. And thus are allowed to talk college football.
If the first thing that goes through your brain is Yeah...that sounds about right. Then you are not well and should immediately seek medical care.
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:29 AM
Thank God we can have a war criminal, torture advocate, and National Security Adviser who handed the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo to the President and took it oh-so-seriously on the CFB playoff committee.
Relevance!
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:30 AM
I'm still waiting for the list of significant wins by the Bulldogs, btw.
:lol How convenient is that though? We go strictly by the ranking unless its Bama-Oklahoma.
For this comparison lets ignore the fact that Bama is currently #1, Oklahoma out of the Top 20 and instead focus on last season's BCS game! So much for consistency, bro.
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:36 AM
:lol How convenient is that though? We go strictly by the ranking unless its Bama-Oklahoma.
For this comparison lets ignore the fact that Bama is currently #1, Oklahoma out of the Top 20 and instead focus on last season's BCS game! So much for consistency, bro.
Miss St. >>>>>>> Rice
Miss St. >>>>>>> Rice
How about Tech > Arizona State? UT > TCU ? UCF > Baylor?
lol Big 12 homer crying SEC conspiracy
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:41 AM
How about Tech > Arizona State? UT > TCU ? UCF > Baylor?
So you'd rather see a playoff with FSU, Bama, Miss St, and Georgia?
And obviously you missed the point that Okie returned 23 starters from the team that beat Bama, same can't be said for any of those other teams.
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:47 AM
lol Big 12 homer crying SEC conspiracy
Nice addition to your post.
And yes, I'm a Big 12 homer to a degree, but more of a "fairness" homer. Obviously the ACC and Big 10 suck, so their champs shouldn't be considered for the playoffs unless they're undefeated. I'm hoping FSU loses so we can see Pac-12, Big-12, and two SEC teams in the final four. But if FSU wins out you have to put them in, and that should be at the expense of an SEC team which will have 2 losses vs. a Pac-12/Big-12 team with 1 loss. It's just that simple. Not even sure why that's controversial.
Not that that makes a difference, but where are you getting 23 from?
http://www.philsteele.com/fbsinfo/TeamPages/big12/oklahoma.html
Splits
11-19-2014, 02:55 AM
Not that that makes a difference, but where are you getting 23 from?
http://www.philsteele.com/fbsinfo/TeamPages/big12/oklahoma.html
It's actually 20 starters returning, the rest of the starters are non-freshmen with the exception of Smallwood, the only Frosh:
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2014/earlybird/teams/oklahoma.htm
:cry I hope S&B can forgive me for my honest mistake :cry
So you'd rather see a playoff with FSU, Bama, Miss St, and Georgia?
And obviously you missed the point that Okie returned 23 starters from the team that beat Bama, same can't be said for any of those other teams.
Honestly for some reason Oregon is a consensus Top 4 team but I don't trust them. I think they'll find a way to choke down the stretch per usual and I think TCU would beat them on a neutral field. I don't get the fascination with them. That doesn't seem like a popular opinion though.
It's actually 20 starters returning, the rest of the starters are non-freshmen with the exception of Smallwood, the only Frosh:
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2014/earlybird/teams/oklahoma.htm
:cry I hope S&B can forgive me for my honest mistake :cry
I have no idea what the actual number is, but if I had to base it on a source, I'd go with Phil Steele over anyone else in a landslide. That guy's entire life is college football tbh.
edit: that site has 16, unless you are including kicker, punter, deep snapper, returners etc im not seeing 20 :lol
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:01 AM
Honestly for some reason Oregon is a consensus Top 4 team but I don't trust them. I think they'll find a way to choke down the stretch per usual and I think TCU would beat them on a neutral field. I don't get the fascination with them. That doesn't seem like a popular opinion though.
I don't either, and if a Pac-12 champ has 2 losses vs. a 1-loss SEC team who doesn't finish first (say Miss St wins out, Bama beats Georgia in the SEC title) I give it to the 1-loss SEC team. But you can't pick a non-champ SEC team over a Big-12/Pac-12 champ with the same number of losses. And that's exactly how this week's ratings are currently set (no Big 12 team with 1-loss in the final 4). That's my beef, and I'm sticking to it.
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:09 AM
So you'd rather see a playoff with FSU, Bama, Miss St, and Georgia?
Yes....I'd rather see that.
I don't like Arena Football games like TCU vs. Baylor.
LOL 61-58
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:11 AM
[QUOTE=Splits;7681897]So you'd rather see a playoff with FSU, Bama, Miss St, and Georgia?[QUOTE]
Yes....I'd rather see that.
I don't like Arena Football games like TCU vs. Baylor.
LOL 61-58
:cry but you only want the SEC to win so your school gets more foodstamps :cry
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:15 AM
:cry the country needs more 14-13, 17-10, 17-0 Arkansas games :cry
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:16 AM
61-58....
LOL D Fence
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:22 AM
Better than 59-0 between two SEC West "powerhouses"
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:25 AM
Better than 59-0 between two SEC West "powerhouses"
Well at least one side knew how to play defense....unlike Baylor and TCU.
D Fence....
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:26 AM
Still waiting for the Miss St. quality win list... is A&M on it?
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:27 AM
http://kegsneggsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/484641664.jpg
^
This Baylor fan brought a “D-Fence” sign to the Alamo Bowl. More than one hundred points later, he was still holding this sign proud, hoping for a stop from his Bears. In the end he got it sorta kinda.
Here were some of the highlights.
123 Points
1, 397 Yards
159 Plays
17 Touchdowns
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:28 AM
Still waiting for the Miss St. quality win list... is A&M on it?
Yep...they're on it.
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:29 AM
Meanwhile, despite giving up 58 to nations 4th ranked offense, Baylor is 19th in points against and 14th in YPG in the nation.
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:30 AM
Yep...they're on it.
The same A&M that almost lost to UL Monroe at home? The Sun Belt Ready A&M?
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:32 AM
http://kegsneggsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/484641664.jpg
I did NOT give you permission to post my personal information!!! XMAS where are you help me defend myself from these blatant rule violations of ST!!!111
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:38 AM
I did NOT give you permission to post my personal information!!! XMAS where are you help me defend myself from these blatant rule violations of ST!!!111
That's hilarious tbqh...
Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:41 AM
The same A&M that almost lost to UL Monroe at home? The Sun Belt Ready A&M?
Yes...the same one.
Splits
11-19-2014, 03:41 AM
That's hilarious tbqh...
Good night, it's been a good tussle. Look forward to doing it next Tuesday
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Silver&Black
11-19-2014, 03:42 AM
Good night, it's been a good tussle. Look forward to doing it next Tuesday
Agreed......We should do it more often.
Pelicans78
11-19-2014, 09:42 AM
If Baylor wins out, they will have a legitimate case of top 4 spot even with their non-conference schedule.
FSU's a good team, but not great. They're best wins are against above average teams at best. Nothing impressive on their resume and their gonna get Duke in the ACC title game unless an upset occurs. Georgia Tech would give them a much better game.
Infinite_limit
11-19-2014, 01:13 PM
*At the Current moment*
The Playoff is a gigantic failure. FSU is the final Undefeated Team and yet sitting behind 2 losers? Under the previous system they would be left out of the Title Game? Not a fkn chance.
Splits
11-19-2014, 04:18 PM
Agree that the playoff committee is a total failure. And the SEC bias can't be more clearly laid out than in this article from BR:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2272522-5-things-we-learned-from-college-football-playoff-committees-week-13-rankings
Avante
11-19-2014, 05:11 PM
If you follow college football at all you are where aware of the fact the best football in the land comes out of the SEC. Those teams as a group are the best in the country, not even debable. And, I'm a Pac12 fan living here in Cali.
Only a fool with an agenda wouldn't get that.
SEC teams have the hardest road to travel, they are in tuff week to week, that can't be said about other conferences.
Baylor, TCU are good teams but they would get crushed playing an SEC schedule. They aren't physical enought.
Blake
11-19-2014, 05:27 PM
So if Bama loses in the SEC title game, do they get in with two losses?
Does Missy St then get in with one loss, even though they didn't even win their division?
If Oregon and FlaSt lose, is it possible for both TCU and Baylor to get in?
This is why four teams sucks. They needed at least 8 from the start.
Avante
11-19-2014, 06:00 PM
So if Bama loses in the SEC title game, do they get in with two losses?
Does Missy St then get in with one loss, even though they didn't even win their division?
If Oregon and FlaSt lose, is it possible for both TCU and Baylor to get in?
This is why four teams sucks. They needed at least 8 from the start.
FINALLY....got something right.
Blake
11-19-2014, 06:30 PM
FINALLY....got something right.
I'm also right about you being a miserable obese fuck.
Avante
11-19-2014, 06:41 PM
I'm also right about you being a miserable obese fuck.
Well at least ya finally got...one...right, yep we do need 8 teams.
Texas Tech by two td's, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!
Nick Chubb is only aver....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Infinite_limit
11-20-2014, 01:07 AM
So if Bama loses in the SEC title game, do they get in with two losses?
Does Missy St then get in with one loss, even though they didn't even win their division?
If Oregon and FlaSt lose, is it possible for both TCU and Baylor to get in?
This is why four teams sucks. They needed at least 8 from the start.
8 teams kills College Football. Maybe even 6 does it. Atleast with 6 you reward a team with Undefeated regular season with a BYE. But most likely, you are just giving "the best 1-lose team" a huge advantage by playing 1 less game in the Playoffs than the rest.
8 teams would be disaster. You would basically have an Undefeated FSU vs 2-Lose Ole Miss in the 1st Round. Team losing nearly 20% of it's scheduled games should not be competing for a Championship. I grew up in a time when "#1" meant something.... 1994 PSU & 2004 Auburn know what this means. In American Sports, CFB was the only sport remaining where every single game mattered.
pgardn
11-20-2014, 07:48 AM
8 teams kills College Football. Maybe even 6 does it. Atleast with 6 you reward a team with Undefeated regular season with a BYE. But most likely, you are just giving "the best 1-lose team" a huge advantage by playing 1 less game in the Playoffs than the rest.
8 teams would be disaster. You would basically have an Undefeated FSU vs 2-Lose Ole Miss in the 1st Round. Team losing nearly 20% of it's scheduled games should not be competing for a Championship. I grew up in a time when "#1" meant something.... 1994 PSU & 2004 Auburn know what this means. In American Sports, CFB was the only sport remaining where every single game mattered.
I agree.
This opens the door to an NCAA basketball tourney where no one gives a shit about the regular season.
The committee is clearly a mess as clarified by the article. Again, this first year needs to be SEC heavy, or zero SEC teams, to wake the NCAA up. Now it does not look like the SEC will get 3 teams in, so I gotta hope none make it. This is still possible.
The scenario that would legitimize the committee would have Alabama winning out in a dominant fashion along with Fl. St and Oregon. Then have TCU, Baylor, or Ohio St. round it out with only one of these winning out. 4 teams from different conferences would save the day for the all powerful non biased committee. This would require Miss St. losing to hole Miss.
I prefer panic in the streets. Alabama, Miss St., lose. Or Georgia beats Bama in a great game SEC championship with a Miss st. Win out. Then somehow, the committee puts all 3 of these teams in (a two loss Georgia would be tasty). Very unlikely.
Splits
11-20-2014, 01:53 PM
I prefer panic in the streets. Alabama, Miss St., lose. Or Georgia beats Bama in a great game SEC championship with a Miss st. Win out. Then somehow, the committee puts all 3 of these teams in (a two loss Georgia would be tasty). Very unlikely.
Agree with all of this except the bolded. Bama has not looked dominant at all, should have lost to LSU and barely got by Arkansas. If they face Georgia in the SEC champ game in Atlanta, I can see them losing that game easily. Georgia has to be in top 4 as conference champs. Then you've got 2-loss Bama which beat 1-loss Miss St (although they're going to have a tough time in Egg). What do they do? The only "right" thing would be to include 3 of the other 4 conference champions assuming they're all 1/0 loss, but given the past week's rankings that is no guarantee. Then you'd have panic in the streets...
The other interesting thing is obviously TCU/Baylor. If Baylor wins out, Big-12 have already said they are "co-champs" despite the h2h win by Baylor. Does beating Minnesota outweigh losing the h2h? I find it hilarious BTW that Minnesota remained 25th after a loss solely so they didn't have to have a 2nd straight week of TCU/Baylor controversy. Pretty clever slipping OSU in between them to blur the line a bit further.
Blake
11-20-2014, 02:30 PM
8 teams kills College Football. Maybe even 6 does it. Atleast with 6 you reward a team with Undefeated regular season with a BYE. But most likely, you are just giving "the best 1-lose team" a huge advantage by playing 1 less game in the Playoffs than the rest.
8 teams would be disaster. You would basically have an Undefeated FSU vs 2-Lose Ole Miss in the 1st Round. Team losing nearly 20% of it's scheduled games should not be competing for a Championship. I grew up in a time when "#1" meant something.... 1994 PSU & 2004 Auburn know what this means. In American Sports, CFB was the only sport remaining where every single game mattered.
The "every single game matters" argument from the BCS honks was the worst.
And an undefeated FSU team means nothing to me since we all know the ACC is a mediocre conference. I need to see if they can beat Baylor.
8 teams is coming, sooner or later......hopefully sooner.
Avante
11-20-2014, 06:30 PM
I'm loving this Final 4 system (hope Blake is right about 8 teams) it's actually playoff games from here on out and has been since the first Final 4 came out, I like it and this is why NCAA football is more exciting than NFL football...in the regular season. Every game is huge, one loss fucks you up. I like that ...must win...mentality.
Infinite_limit
11-20-2014, 06:38 PM
The "every single game matters" argument from the BCS honks was the worst.
And an undefeated FSU team means nothing to me since we all know the ACC is a mediocre conference. I need to see if they can beat Baylor.
8 teams is coming, sooner or later......hopefully sooner.
I would not watch half the CFB games I did this year if the rally cry was "Just lose 2 baby! ! !"
pgardn
11-20-2014, 06:53 PM
I would not watch half the CFB games I did this year if the rally cry was "Just lose 2 baby! ! !"
Exactly. Can't wait for 3 loss Bama to make it every year.
Blake
11-20-2014, 06:56 PM
I would not watch half the CFB games I did this year if the rally cry was "Just lose 2 baby! ! !"
Alabama is currently #1 with one loss.
So much for the "every game counts" theory.
Infinite_limit
11-20-2014, 06:57 PM
Exactly. Can't wait for 3 loss Bama to make it every year.
Agreed
Alabama is currently #1 with one loss.
So much for the "every game counts" theory.
Hence "So far the Playoff System has been a failure"
Blake
11-20-2014, 08:20 PM
Hence "So far the Playoff System has been a failure"
Only because it's obvious more than four teams are needed.
Simply declaring Florida State to be national champ because they're undefeated in the ACC is stupid.
Infinite_limit
11-20-2014, 08:28 PM
Only because it's obvious more than four teams are needed.
Simply declaring Florida State to be national champ because they're undefeated in the ACC is stupid.
OOC schedule
FSU: Oklahoma St, Notre Dame & Florida
Silver&Black
11-20-2014, 08:29 PM
OOC schedule
FSU: Oklahoma St, Notre Dame & Florida
What about that conference schedule though? You know....the majority of FSU's games.
Splits
11-20-2014, 11:31 PM
What about that conference schedule though? You know....the majority of FSU's games.
YEAH!
Like only 1 win over a ranked team + OOC games against Southern Miss, South Alabama, UAB, and UT Martin! Plus suffocating conference games like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Arkansas, and #SunBeltReady Argy!!!111
Pelicans78
11-21-2014, 12:59 AM
OOC schedule
FSU: Oklahoma St, Notre Dame & Florida
Two of those teams are mediocre and Notre Dame is proven to be overrated. Take in account the margin of victory, FSU has done nothing to impress so far. Winning close games against at-best solid teams is not championship worthy. I'm not convinced FSU is truly a top 10 team on a neutral field.
Pelicans78
11-21-2014, 01:00 AM
If they ever go to 8 teams, the top 4 seeds should have home field in the quarterfinals.
Silver&Black
11-21-2014, 01:02 AM
YEAH!
Like only 1 win over a ranked team + OOC games against Southern Miss, South Alabama, UAB, and UT Martin! Plus suffocating conference games like Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Arkansas, and #SunBeltReady Argy!!!111
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BTW...I thought we were going to pick this up again next Tuesday. You're like 4 days early tbh....
Splits
11-21-2014, 01:08 AM
Go fuck your mother some more
Silver&Black
11-21-2014, 01:35 AM
Go fuck your mother some more
Your saltiness is showing......
Remember Splitty....it's not me. It's Condoleezza Rice's fault.
Splits
11-21-2014, 01:54 AM
It's as if the selection committee's 12 members are waging war on logic. Strength of schedule is important, only when it's not. Head-to-head matters, except when it doesn't.
And if you're not a member of the Power Five conferences, you should just tune in on Dec. 7 when the committee reveals who will get that guaranteed slot in a New Year's Six bowl. Your resume and body of work clearly do not measure up to the big boys, no matter what you do.
So what can we take away from this week's rankings? You mean other than that the committee should be immediately disbanded in favor of an improved BCS formula?
OK, let's try these five:
1. The eyeball test trumps all
Alabama is ranked No. 1 because it apparently looks better "on offense, defense and special teams" than everyone else, according to chairman Jeff Long, who spoke on ESPN's broadcast. The committee is untroubled that Alabama has beaten just one of its own Top 25 teams (Mississippi State) while No. 2 Oregon has beaten three (UCLA, Michigan State and Utah) and No. 3 Florida State two (Clemson and Louisville) while staying undefeated.
2. Maybe the problem is those lying eyes
Former No. 1 Mississippi State only dropped to No. 4 after losing to Alabama because Long said the Bulldogs lost by only five to the Tide and were never out of the game. Maybe that's the biggest problem with item No. 1—the committee members need to have their eyes examined.
The Bulldogs were never in that game, all the way to the concession TD that made the final score of 25-20 deceptively close. This "good loss," however, was enough to keep MSU in the playoff field despite the fact that, like the Tide, it's beaten just one currently ranked team (Auburn).
3. Strength of schedule for me, not for thee
And whereas Baylor is ostensibly still punished for its terriblenonconference schedule, the same does not apply to Mississippi State, which actually played four non-Power Five opponents as compared to Baylor's three.
The Bulldogs beat Southern Miss (3-8), UAB (5-5), South Alabama (6-4) and Tennessee-Martin (FCS, 5-6) and that's good enough to trump TCU, which actually beat three currently ranked teams and played two more Power Five opponents than MSU did.
4. Ohio State looks to be DOA
The Buckeyes are No. 6 and probably as good as dead when it comes to the playoff, unless they get some kind of divine intervention. There are not enough good opponents left on their schedule that will provide them with a significant lift to jump teams like Mississippi State and TCU.
And Baylor, one spot behind now, is poised to perhaps snatch the final playoff spot if it can defeat Kansas State on the final day of the regular season to claim the Big 12 title.
5. Group of Five? What Group of Five?
For the third week in a row, no team outside of the Power Five conferences (and Notre Dame) was in the rankings. Of the 27 Power Five teams with three or fewer losses, only Duke and Iowa are not ranked.
The committee clearly takes strength of schedule seriously when it comes to Group of Five teams. It's still very much anybody's guess which team among Marshall, Colorado State and Boise State is considered the best in the (possibly faulty) eyes of the committee.
Infinite_limit
11-21-2014, 03:01 AM
Two of those teams are mediocre and Notre Dame is proven to be overrated. Take in account the margin of victory, FSU has done nothing to impress so far. Winning close games against at-best solid teams is not championship worthy. I'm not convinced FSU is truly a top 10 team on a neutral field.
Most of the teams in the Top 15 can beat each other. They've all lost games for a reason.
pgardn
11-21-2014, 08:00 AM
Most of the teams in the Top 15 can beat each other. They've all lost games for a reason.
Alabama could easily have 3 losses.
WVU moved the ball on them at will, yes a Big 12 mediocre team, yet they pass some eye test?
We all know this year is a very tough call as of this time frame.
I read way too much about Alabama and their finishing tough games.
Fl St. can beat anyone and have proven to be great finishers despite the fact that I personally despise Jimbo and his crab leg QB as well as their chaotic D.
So I approve the above.
pgardn
11-21-2014, 08:01 AM
This is actually a very nice thread.
Everyone getting their shots in making valid points, imo.
pgardn
11-21-2014, 08:10 AM
If they ever go to 8 teams, the top 4 seeds should have home field in the quarterfinals.
The NCAA will distribute these games amongst the bowls since going to 8 is a huge money play. If I calculate correctly, going to 8 will give us 7 games to crown a champion. 7 games is really nice to distribute to the big bowl sites with big sponsors. The bidding for theses 7 sites would be drama in itself. Sugar, Orange, Rose, Fiesta all definites; cat fight for the last 3 I guess...
Its probably in the near future.
Splits
11-23-2014, 12:45 AM
Going to be another controversial Tuesday.
FSU winning at home by a last second FG to a crap team
OSU in a tight game through 3, then did what they're supposed to do against a crap team
Ole Piss getting curbstomped by the conference doormat, exposing how overrated Bama is with only 1 top 25 win and their loss coming at the hands of a crap team
Baylor putting the wood to a team that gave FSU a run to open the season
TCU with a bye should be treated the same as Baylor with a bye last week.
At least Auburn was able to hold off Samford :lol
1) FSU
2) Oregon
3) Bama
4) Baylor
5) TCU
6) OSU
7) Miss St.
Would be the proper rankings. SEC teams should be punished for scheduling these crap games in November.
DesignatedT
11-23-2014, 01:07 PM
1.Bama
2.Oregon
3.FSU
4.Miss State
5.OSU
6.TCU
7.Baylor
pgardn
11-23-2014, 01:53 PM
1. Oregon
2. Fl st.
3. Bama
4. Tcu
5. Ohio St.
6. Miss St.
Blake
11-23-2014, 02:08 PM
1.Bama
2.Oregon
3.FSU
4.Miss State
5.OSU
6.TCU
7.Baylor
God no.
That'd be fucking retarded to have Bama and MissySt play each other.
Infinite_limit
11-23-2014, 02:25 PM
God no.
That'd be fucking retarded to have Bama and MissySt play each other.
2 SEC teams in the Final is retarded. Rather them have a "SEC Title Game" for a Final appearance. Maybe I'm bias because FSU would handle Oregon
Pelicans78
11-23-2014, 04:48 PM
Going to be another controversial Tuesday.
FSU winning at home by a last second FG to a crap team
OSU in a tight game through 3, then did what they're supposed to do against a crap team
Ole Piss getting curbstomped by the conference doormat, exposing how overrated Bama is with only 1 top 25 win and their loss coming at the hands of a crap team
Baylor putting the wood to a team that gave FSU a run to open the season
TCU with a bye should be treated the same as Baylor with a bye last week.
At least Auburn was able to hold off Samford :lol
1) FSU
2) Oregon
3) Bama
4) Baylor
5) TCU
6) OSU
7) Miss St.
Would be the proper rankings. SEC teams should be punished for scheduling these crap games in November.
TCU has a better resume than Baylor up to this point. Much better. Plus Baylor's 14 point loss at WV is much worse than TCU's loss at Baylor.
Pelicans78
11-23-2014, 04:50 PM
2 SEC teams in the Final is retarded. Rather them have a "SEC Title Game" for a Final appearance. Maybe I'm bias because FSU would handle Oregon
FSU doesn't have the defense to slow down Oregon. Wouldn't surprise me if Tech runs for 300+ yards against FSU.
Pelicans78
11-23-2014, 04:52 PM
TCU should be in the top 4. They have wins against Minnesota, OU, K-State, and WV and their only loss is a 3 point loss at Baylor. Find me a one loss team with a better resume. Maybe Oregon.
Infinite_limit
11-23-2014, 08:08 PM
FSU doesn't have the defense to slow down Oregon. Wouldn't surprise me if Tech runs for 300+ yards against FSU.
If Oregon gets 400+ yards of Offense on FSU, then Noles gets 600+ on Oregon. Ducks have the needed speed but no size or strength.
DesignatedT
11-23-2014, 10:30 PM
Coach boom might upset florida state during his finale. Wouldn't surprise me.
Silver&Black
11-25-2014, 07:42 PM
11/25/14
No changes...nothing to see here.
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Florida St.
4. Miss. St.
5. TCU
6. Ohio. St
7. Baylor
8. UCLA
Splits
11-25-2014, 10:56 PM
11/25/14
No changes...nothing to see here.
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Florida St.
4. Miss. St.
5. TCU
6. Ohio. St
7. Baylor
8. UCLA
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pgardn
11-26-2014, 09:31 AM
TCU has a better resume than Baylor up to this point. Much better. Plus Baylor's 14 point loss at WV is much worse than TCU's loss at Baylor.
Someone did not watch the 4th quarter.
Avante
11-26-2014, 10:49 AM
I want what's best for the game/first final four. We do need as much of the country involved as we can get, so...
Don't care about the seeding
Bama
Oregon
Ohio St
TCU
I"m hoping Florida takes FSU out but have my doubts.
Splits
12-02-2014, 07:16 PM
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU
5. OSU
6. Baylor
djohn2oo8
12-02-2014, 07:18 PM
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU
5. OSU
6. Baylor
Any chance FSU or OSU struggle this weekend?
Splits
12-02-2014, 07:31 PM
Any chance FSU or OSU struggle this weekend?
Yes, Bama too I think. Ideally both FSU and Bama would lose, would love to see the fallout of 2 Big 12 teams and no SEC teams :lol
As much as I hate to admit it, I don't think Baylor gets past KSU.
DesignatedT
12-02-2014, 08:03 PM
What if the unthinkable happened this weekend:
Missouri beats Alabama
Arizona beats Oregon
Iowa State beats TCU
Georgia Tech beats Florida State
Wisconsin beats Ohio State
Kansas State beats Baylor
Thread
12-02-2014, 08:59 PM
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU
5. OSU
6. Baylor
I don't want to draw FSU. Anybody but them.
Infinite_limit
12-02-2014, 09:23 PM
#4? How much worse can this current system get
FSU should be playing #4 TCU/Baylor in the Sugar Bowl. Not Bama & then Oregon.
The Reckoning
12-02-2014, 09:25 PM
lol SEC. Big XII obviously superior with two teams in top 6.
Blake
12-02-2014, 09:36 PM
What if the unthinkable happened this weekend:
Missouri beats Alabama
Arizona beats Oregon
Iowa State beats TCU
Georgia Tech beats Florida State
Wisconsin beats Ohio State
Kansas State beats Baylor
What if all that happens except for Baylor and TCU winning?
How hilarious would it be to have two teams in from the b10g 12.
Pelicans78
12-02-2014, 10:32 PM
#4? How much worse can this current system get
FSU should be playing #4 TCU/Baylor in the Sugar Bowl. Not Bama & then Oregon.
I agree. I would put FSU number one even though they're no better than 2012 Notre Dame squad who got lucky and won a bunch of close games before getting thrashed in the title game.
Silver&Black
12-02-2014, 10:50 PM
I agree. I would put FSU number one even though they're no better than 2012 Notre Dame squad who got lucky and won a bunch of close games before getting thrashed in the title game.
Nice comparison with ND.....totally agree.
Avante
12-03-2014, 12:05 AM
While I hope Ga Tech beats FSU, you can't put the only undefeated team at 4th.
pgardn
12-03-2014, 12:20 AM
So all these teams in the top 6 get a boost if they win except TCU. Bama getting displaced, TCU dropping out.
If all win it should end up
1. Oregon
2. Bama
3. Fl St.
4. Ohio State
Lets see...
The only problem if this really happens is Ohio St. playing with a 1 start QB. I would rather see TCU in that spot.
This I could handle:
1. Oregon v. TCU
2. Bama v. FSU
or
1. Oregon v. FSU
2. Bama v. TCU
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