Final Four

[Avante]

I got...

FSU...defending champ, undefeated
MSU...number one, undefeated
Oregon....best team west of the Mississippi river???
ND.....longest love affair in college football and beat FSU in the minds of many

Sure both Auburn and Bama would beat all those teams but maybe MSU. There simply is no way the committee is going to heavy load this with southern teams. They'd love to have a Big10/Big12/TCU team there instead of FSU.

While not among the criteria that is suppose to be used trying to get as much of the country involved as they can will be play a factor in this. Which is wrong but it won't matter.

[jimbo]

I don't see two SEC teams making it in there. I think they'll want to promote "parity" or something by putting up 4 different conference champs. They don't answer to ESPN and they don't have to sell any tickets.

Your top 4 seems pretty likely, but I think they're looking for a reason to keep Notre Dame out. If there's a one loss Big 12 champ in the end they'll replace Notre Dame.

[The Reckoning]

They just need a top 10 playoff with the top two teams getting a bye week...conference champs out of the old BCS conferences should get an auto bid.

[Blake]

They just need a top 10 playoff with the top two teams getting a bye week...conference champs out of the old BCS conferences should get an auto bid.

i want to see 12 myself.

[Girasuck]

They just need a top 10 playoff with the top two teams getting a bye week...conference champs out of the old BCS conferences should get an auto bid.

10 doesn't work. 2 teams get a bye, so you have 6 total teams after the 4 winning teams. Those 6 teams remaining play, leaving 3 winners. What do you do with those 3 teams?

[The Reckoning]

10 doesn't work. 2 teams get a bye, so you have 6 total teams after the 4 winning teams. Those 6 teams remaining play, leaving 3 winners. What do you do with those 3 teams?

Fine, 14 teams

[Blake]

Fine, 14 teams

Lol

[Silver&Black]

They just need a top 10 playoff with the top two teams getting a bye week...conference champs out of the old BCS conferences should get an auto bid.

I like this....

Two conditions though:
1. ND must join a conference
2. All conferences must have a championship game

[The Reckoning]

I like this....

Two conditions though:
1. ND must join a conference
2. All conferences must have a championship game


yes that way they can lessen the season and gut out the unnecessary non-conference games mid-late season (A&M-LA Monroe this week for example)

[Silver&Black]

yes that way they can lessen the season and gut out the unnecessary non-conference games mid-late season (A&M-LA Monroe this week for example)

Or do away with the championship games...i don't really care. It's just stupid that some conferences do it...and some do not. They need to make it the same with every conference.

It's almost as dumb as having different rules for National League and American League baseball....:bang

[Silver&Black]

SEC WEST:

We Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccckkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeed

[Infinite_limit]

Ole Miss?

Committee is covering their butts knowing


Auburn and Ole Miss play Saturday (7 p.m. ET, ESPN). Alabama visits Mississippi State on Nov. 15, while Auburn and Alabama meet on Nov. 29. Mississippi State also has a game with Ole Miss on Nov. 29.

[Avante]

I'll be damn they did things right, something I thought they wouldn't do. They ignored the ND legend, they didn't care about geography. Stunned, but glad to see they did it right.

[The Reckoning]

lol avante prediction wrong once again

[Avante]

lol avante prediction wrong once again

Notice how I step up with an opinion? Where was yours .....before....we found out? Unless you give...YOUR...picks, you really can't say much.

And what's this...."again"...stuff?

[Blake]

lol avante prediction wrong once again

ND got that Avante curse all over them now

[Avante]

ND got that Avante curse all over them now

Tell MSU/Ole Miss about that Avante curse shorty. Funny how you always ignore....

Nick Chubb
Tyreek Hill
James Conner
FSU beating ND

....isn't it? And notice how I step out on things....BEFORE...the games? Where was your opinion...BEFORE?

Texas Tech by two TD's, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about a curse....82-27..hahahahaha!!!!!

[Clipper Nation]

Tell MSU/Ole Miss about that Avante curse shorty. Funny how you always ignore....

Nick Chubb
Tyreek Hill
James Conner
FSU beating ND
Funny how Terrance West and Dri Archer have disappeared from that list... and Ole Miss got Cursed last Saturday.

[Avante]

Funny how Terrance West and Dri Archer have disappeared from that list... and Ole Miss got Cursed last Saturday.

I'll go slow...

This forum is about....college sports...ok slugger? West and Archer are "pro" players, ok little man? I didn't talk about them here.....ok? Ole Miss is in the final four.....that's some curse, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amazing!

[Avante]

If I don't give my opinion about something "before" it happens, I;m sure in hell not going to come in "after" something happens running my mouth. Yep, no class.

[Blake]

Avante, I'm gonna need you to start a thread about the longhorns this week.

Hop to it. Ok thanks.

[Avante]

Avante, I'm gonna need you to start a thread about the longhorns this week.

Hop to it. Ok thanks.

Why not start one yourself? Just say this....Texas will win by two TD's. Then we'll see....TT 82 Texas 27.

[pgardn]

FCKN ridiculous.

Auburn ahead of ND.
Stacked committee.

Now we gotta go back to a computer with various polls thrown in.

[pgardn]

If this is status quo, college football is out of control.
The NCAA will have no relevance. Let the big programs rule with alliances.
We can have an 8-3 Alabama play a 7-4 Florida St.

Make it just like soccer, the more $, the more teams invited to compete.
A 5-6 Texas loses first round, but they made it.

[Avante]

FCKN ridiculous.

Auburn ahead of ND.
Stacked committee.

Now we gotta go back to a computer with various polls thrown in.

I gotta come clean, I thought they pretty much got it right which shocked the hell out of me. I was sure they'd get geographical about it......nope! ND belongs higher but not in the final 4 simply because FSU doesn't belong there either as we will see.

[Pelicans78]

If they made it geographical, they would lose all credibility.

[pgardn]

Auburn...

No.

Why not TCU?

Auburn... They have sucked.
Maybe by the end of the season but now? NO WAY.
ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.

[Avante]

If they made it geographical, they would lose all credibility.

They could easily have gone...

MSU
FSU
Oregon
ND

and not much would have been made iof it.

[Pelicans78]

They could easily have gone...

MSU
FSU
Oregon
ND

and not much would have been made iof it.

That's true since casual fans wouldn't notice, but the experts have a job to get it right with the 4 best teams regardless of record. The only issue I have is Florida State.

[Avante]

That's true since casual fans wouldn't notice, but the experts have a job to get it right with the 4 best teams regardless of record. The only issue I have is Florida State.

I totally agree, the fact they play a cream puff schedule keeps being over looked (not by guys like us) and it's not right. Hopefuly Louisville puts an end to this silliness Thursday night.

[Silver&Black]

The Avante Curse?? Really? So you're telling me Ole Miss lost because of the Avante Curse? Okay....

The Mississippi teams have been cursed before there was even an internet. The Mississippi football curse pre-dates the Avante you all know by about 30 years....

[Avante]

The Avante Curse?? Really? So you're telling me Ole Miss lost because of the Avante Curse? Okay....

The Mississippi teams have been cursed before there was even an internet. The Mississippi football curse pre-dates the Avante you all know by about 30 years....

The guys retarded bro. I dedicated a thread to the Miss schools back before they were beating everyone, now both are in the final 4 and that's a curse....hahahaha!!!! The guy has a sad life and the only way he can get a nut is messing with others. Just ignore him and he'll never go away...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Check it out...

I once pushed an NFL ATS play. Here the freak comes...YOU LOST YOU LOST...hahaha!!!!! Too stupid to figure out that without that hook... .5 ...if ya hit right on the number, a push.

The guys a joke as ya know.

[Silver&Black]

To say Ole Miss and Miss. St. are cursed is like saying Duke Football is cursed....

[Avante]

To say Ole Miss and Miss. St. are cursed is like saying Duke Football is cursed....

I talked about a rookie running back out of tiny Towson named Terrance West, in a "preseason game" here comes CN....."see see see he's no good"...hahaha!!!!! Then in his first real game...100 yards.....yep..crickets. That's how the dummy operates. Just your basic punk. Why he acts like this, just retarded I guess.

[Pelicans78]

I totally agree, the fact they play a cream puff schedule keeps being over looked (not by guys like us) and it's not right. Hopefuly Louisville puts an end to this silliness Thursday night.

Don't overlook their road game at Miami either. The Canes are playing better and they will be up for that game at home.

[Pelicans78]

The top 5 teams in the SEC control their own destiny. I'm guessing FSU does as well as does ND if they win out.

[Blake]

The Avante Curse?? Really? So you're telling me Ole Miss lost because of the Avante Curse? Okay....



Yes.

The more serious Avante gets about picking a winner, the stronger the curse.

This is documented and irrefutable.

[Avante]

Don't overlook their road game at Miami either. The Canes are playing better and they will be up for that game at home.

I'm not, and see the same thing you do.

[Avante]

Yes.

The more serious Avante gets about picking a winner, the stronger the curse.

This is documented and irrefutable.

Dude, why the bullshit, you really this hard up to be a little pest? I;m not the one....Texas Tech by two td's....that's your dumb ass.

[Obstructed_View]

Why not TCU?

I'm seriously not getting this argument, particularly when you say Auburn has "sucked" with the schedule they've played. The arguments for TCU center around Baylor being overrated, which means TCU lost to an overrated team.

[pgardn]

I'm seriously not getting this argument, particularly when you say Auburn has "sucked" with the schedule they've played. The arguments for TCU center around Baylor being overrated, which means TCU lost to an overrated team.

Did you watch the SC game and the K State game. Did you watch their loss?

The Sc game they got opened up like a can o worms. The k st game was bad for both teams but k st just flat out blew it missing numerous FG. And then the loss which was domination.

Forget TCU then, put in Ohio St. The point is Auburn has been BAD. What's not to get? They don't belong in the top4. But last year counts I guess. They got to a NC game.

[Splits]

How does Old Piss lose to a 2-loss team just this week and only have 1 quality win on the season, but they're in the top 4? Ridiculous.

[pgardn]

How does Old Piss lose to a 2-loss team just this week and only have 1 quality win on the season, but they're in the top 4? Ridiculous.

I have not watched them as closely.
I have watched Auburn.

So you make the case for Ole Miss if you wish.
I am talking Auburn.

[Pelicans78]

Alabama is more than a quality win. They're a borderline top 5 team. And LSU will be a 9-10 win team by the end of the season. A 3-point road loss is not a bad loss.

And putting Ohio State in the top 5 is laughable when they lost to a sorry VT team and have beaten no one. That's dumb.

[Pelicans78]

I have not watched them as closely.
I have watched Auburn.

So you make the case for Ole Miss if you wish.
I am talking Auburn.

Auburn dominated a very good LSU team 41-7. Beat a solid Arkansas team 45-21. Won a road game at KSU no matter how bad they looked in that game. They did struggle the last two weeks, but losing at MSU is not a bad loss.

[pgardn]

Alabama is more than a quality win. They're a borderline top 5 team. And LSU will be a 9-10 win team by the end of the season. A 3-point road loss is not a bad loss.

And putting Ohio State in the top 5 is laughable when they lost to a sorry VT team and have beaten no one. That's dumb.

Yes with a QB that had not played. Look at them now.

[Obstructed_View]

Did you watch the SC game and the K State game. Did you watch their loss?

The Sc game they got opened up like a can o worms. The k st game was bad for both teams but k st just flat out blew it missing numerous FG. And then the loss which was domination.

Forget TCU then, put in Ohio St. The point is Auburn has been BAD. What's not to get? They don't belong in the top4. But last year counts I guess. They got to a NC game.

I was curious about the argument solely as it pertained to TCU because Auburn's schedule has been tougher than TCU's. I think the SEC is massively overrated, which relates to your K State point, but it's a conversation for another time.

[Obstructed_View]

How does Old Piss lose to a 2-loss team just this week and only have 1 quality win on the season, but they're in the top 4?


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ojd17m2EJtA/VE2SKgSS8EI/AAAAAAAABOc/FFO-6dQnt0A/s1600/esecpn.jpg

[pgardn]

Auburn dominated a very good LSU team 41-7. Beat a solid Arkansas team 45-21. Won a road game at KSU no matter how bad they looked in that game. They did struggle the last two weeks, but losing at MSU is not a bad loss.

A very good LSU team based on their last game.
They have been horribly inconsistent and their QB is HS level.

Total BS. Solid Arkansas.... Another HS QB, all they can do is run the ball, and their D sucks. Total disagree with your assessments. Ridiculous.

[Pelicans78]

Yes with a QB that had not played. Look at them now.

Well Auburn has plenty of chances to get knocked off with road games at Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama. If they win out, they should be at least number two even above an undefeated FSU team.

[Splits]

Alabama is more than a quality win. They're a borderline top 5 team. And LSU will be a 9-10 win team by the end of the season. A 3-point road loss is not a bad loss.

And putting Ohio State in the top 5 is laughable when they lost to a sorry VT team and have beaten no one. That's dumb.

TCU beat Oklahoma and OK St and only lost by 3 on the road the #5 ranked team at the time.

Notre Dame only lost by 4 on the road to the national champs and one of only 2 undefeateds.

Not to mention the rule of thumb since forever is that late season losses hurt your rankings more than early season losses... unless you're an SEC team I guess. Old Piss should be 9-12, not 4.

[Pelicans78]

A very good LSU team based on their last game.
They have been horribly inconsistent and their QB is HS level.

Total BS. Solid Arkansas.... Another HS QB, all they can do is run the ball, and their D sucks. Total disagree with your assessments. Ridiculous.

LSU may not have a QB, but they run the ball very well and have a strong defense. They're gonna finish with 9-10 wins and they have a good shot at beating Bama in two weeks. Losing a 3 point game in Baton Rouge is not a bad loss, especially after already beating Bama this season.

Its not ridiculous. No other one loss team has a better resume than Auburn right now.

[Pelicans78]

TCU beat Oklahoma and OK St and only lost by 3 on the road the #5 ranked team at the time.

Notre Dame only lost by 4 on the road to the national champs and one of only 2 undefeateds.

Not to mention the rule of thumb since forever is that late season losses hurt your rankings more than early season losses... unless you're an SEC team I guess. Old Piss should be 9-12, not 4.

Notre Dame hasn't beaten anyone this season. Who cares who they lost to. FSU is overrated anyway and would get exposed against better competition. They play no one this season.

I like TCU and they have a valid argument, but Okie State sucks this year and Oklahoma has proven to be overrated again this year with a home loss to a good but not great K-State team. And how good is Baylor? No one knows outside of the TCU they game. They got waxed by the only other good opponent on their schedule. Ole Miss still has a better resume than TCU or Notre Dame since Bama is by far better than OU or anyone else ND have beaten.

[Pelicans78]

I was curious about the argument solely as it pertained to TCU because Auburn's schedule has been tougher than TCU's. I think the SEC is massively overrated, which relates to your K State point, but it's a conversation for another time.

Of course you do, but you have no argument to back it up.

[pgardn]

Well Auburn has plenty of chances to get knocked off with road games at Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama. If they win out, they should be at least number two even above an undefeated FSU team.

I don't have a problem with that because if Auburn wins those games legit (without the opposition missing 3 easy field goals and turning the ball over 3x as often for easy score like k state game) then ok. Auburn would possibly have an SEC championship game as well.

[Splits]

Notre Dame hasn't beaten anyone this season. Who cares who they lost to. FSU is overrated anyway and would get exposed against better competition. They play no one this season.

I like TCU and they have a valid argument, but Okie State sucks this year and Oklahoma has proven to be overrated again this year with a home loss to a good but not great K-State team. And how good is Baylor? No one knows outside of the TCU they game. They got waxed by the only other good opponent on their schedule. Ole Miss still has a better resume than TCU or Notre Dame since Bama is by far better than OU or anyone else ND have beaten.

Luckily it won't matter as Old Piss will get exposed for the fraud they are at home this weekend and can drop to the 20s where they belong.

[Pelicans78]

Luckily it won't matter as Old Piss will get exposed for the fraud they are at home this weekend and can drop to the 20s where they belong.

If Ole Miss wins this weekend, you should wear their skin the following week.

[pgardn]

LSU may not have a QB, but they run the ball very well and have a strong defense. They're gonna finish with 9-10 wins and they have a good shot at beating Bama in two weeks. Losing a 3 point game in Baton Rouge is not a bad loss, especially after already beating Bama this season.

Its not ridiculous. No other one loss team has a better resume than Auburn right now.

So what.

LSU is NOT a great team. They just are not. They can't even throw the ball down the field. They have been horribly inconsistent. You are SEC infected.

[Splits]

:lol LSU with "9-10" wins

Yeah, let's look at those quality wins:

Wisconsin
Sam Houston
UL Monroe
New Mexico St
Florida
Kentucky
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Argy

Like they're going to beat Bama. Their only "quality" win might end up being unranked by the end of the season.

[Pelicans78]

So what.

LSU is NOT a great team. They just are not. They can't even throw the ball down the field. They have been horribly inconsistent. You are SEC infected.

I didn't say they were great, but they can very good especially with their defense and running game and big play WRs. QB play has been an issue, but they're a very young team who's getting better each week. They're gonna give Bama a real battle.

I'm not SEC infected. I just look at the data. The SEC is clearly the best conference this season followed by the Pac-12 in a wide margin. The Big 12 has 5 good to very good teams in TCU, K-State, OU, Baylor, and West Virginia. OKie State is barely above average and the rest of the conference is horrible.

[Pelicans78]

:lol LSU with "9-10" wins

Yeah, let's look at those quality wins:

Wisconsin
Sam Houston
UL Monroe
New Mexico St
Florida
Kentucky
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Argy

Like they're going to beat Bama. Their only "quality" win might end up being unranked by the end of the season.

They have a good shot to beat Bama with their defense and running game, especially at home. Bama's defense isn't as good as Ole Miss's who has been the best defense in the country up to this point.

[Splits]

The Pac-12? :lmao name me the 5 teams that are equivalent or better than the 5 Big 12 teams you listed. I'll get you started:

Oregon
Arizona St.
Arizona

[Pelicans78]

Besides, Baylor's non-conference schedule is even worse than LSU. LSU at least played Wisconsin out of conference. Who did Baylor play? And Baylor is also beating up on the sorry teams in the Big 12. They could up going 9-3 with their only quality win being TCU.

[Splits]

Besides, Baylor's non-conference schedule is even worse than LSU. LSU at least played Wisconsin out of conference. Who did Baylor play? And Baylor is also beating up on the sorry teams in the Big 12. They could up going 9-3 with their only quality win being TCU.

Please point me to the post where I made the case for Baylor.

[pgardn]

LSU can be a good team... Can be...

So can Oklahoma and ok st.

Look what OK did to Bama last year...

When was the last time an SEC opponent thrashed them like that?

Can be...

[Pelicans78]

The Pac-12? :lmao name me the 5 teams that are equivalent or better than the 5 Big 12 teams you listed. I'll get you started:

Oregon
Arizona St.
Arizona

Utah and UCLA aren't far behind. But the PAC-12 has better depth compared to the Big 12 which is top heavy with TCU, K-State, and OU being top 10 caliber teams with WV and Baylor as top 20 teams.

But the PAc-12 has a alot of good teams overall with Oregon being top 10 caliber, Arizona, ASU, and Utah being top 20, and then you have UCLA, USC, and Stanford being top 30 teams. Washington, Oregon State, and Cal being solid teams. Only bad teams are WSU and Colorado.

The Big 12 has 3 of the worst teams in the country with TT, ISU, and Kansas. Okie St is average at best and Texas is bad. So basically half the conference is good and the other half is crap.

[Pelicans78]

LSU can be a good team... Can be...

So can Oklahoma and ok st.

Look what OK did to Bama last year...

When was the last time an SEC opponent thrashed them like that?

Can be...

That's a freakin bowl game. Bama doesn't care about bowl games unless they're playing for a championship. Same thing happened to them a few years when they faced Utah in the Sugar Bowl after being knocked out of the championship race with a loss to Florida in the SEC Title game.

[pgardn]

That's a freakin bowl game. Bama doesn't care about bowl games unless they're playing for a championship. Same thing happened to them a few years when they faced Utah in the Sugar Bowl after being knocked out of the championship race with a loss to Florida in the SEC Title game.

Oh what a Fkn dip shit excuse.

They got embarrassed. So SEC bowl games don't count, only when SEC plays SEC do games matter.
That is a POS excuse.

When was the last time Bama got whipped like that by an SEC team?

[pgardn]

You see, when Alabama stomped Michigan St. In a non title game bowl game 2011, 49-7, they really did not care.

BS...

Michigan St. Had lost 1 game up to that point. Alabama's most recent non title bowl game after Oklahoma.
But they really did not care. Nick said so?

[Splits]

Yeah, UCLA is quality and beat "bad" Texas by a FG.

[Silver&Black]

Oh what a Fkn dip shit excuse.

They got embarrassed. So SEC bowl games don't count, only when SEC plays SEC do games matter.
That is a POS excuse.

When was the last time Bama got whipped like that by an SEC team?

No it's not....Alabama just lost the chance to play in the National Championship the week before to Auburn (on a 109 yard missed field goal return for TD). Everybody in the country knew they were going to lose that game to Oklahoma. Our teams might get excited to play in a Sugar Bowl or Fiesta Bowl....but Alabama doesn't. It's National Championship or bust....

They did the same thing 4-5 years ago. Got smashed after losing the National Championship the week before...

[The Reckoning]

lol i had no idea oklahoma would spank alabama

[pgardn]

No it's not....Alabama just lost the chance to play in the National Championship the week before to Auburn (on a 109 yard missed field goal return for TD). Everybody in the country knew they were going to lose that game to Oklahoma. Our teams might get excited to play in a Sugar Bowl or Fiesta Bowl....but Alabama doesn't. It's National Championship or bust....

They did the same thing 4-5 years ago. Got smashed after losing the National Championship the week before...

So what.

They beat the crap out of MSU after a big disappointment. If this is how SEC teams coached by Saban react, then that sucks.

And I beg your pardon, that is, and will always be, a POS excuse.
Refuse to go to the game if this is how you react to disappointment. (Which a more recent bowl game with MSU disproves. Towing that shitty line is cowardice and a pitiful excuse. So the MSU victory was bust or bust... And they mauled a 1 loss team.

And again I ask, when was the last time Bama got beat like that by an SEC team? Is Bama conference comfy?

[pgardn]

lol i had no idea oklahoma would spank alabama

Neither did Vegas.

Only the SEC fans had spotted the long tried and true trend.
Must have made a mint betting the Sooners.

[Silver&Black]

So what.

They beat the crap out of MSU after a big disappointment. If this is how SEC teams coached by Saban react, then that sucks.

And I beg your pardon, that is, and will always be, a POS excuse.
Refuse to go to the game if this is how you react to disappointment. (Which a more recent bowl game with MSU disproves. Towing that shitty line is cowardice and a pitiful excuse. So the MSU victory was bust or bust... And they mauled a 1 loss team.

It might be a POS excuse...I'll give you that.

I'm just saying this. If you want to double or triple your money....bet everything you have on the other team to whip Alabama's ass if this scenario ever plays out again. It's what the betting experts would call a "lock"....

[pgardn]

It might be a POS excuse...I'll give you that.

I'm just saying this. If you want to double or triple your money....bet everything you have on the other team to whip Alabama's ass if this scenario ever plays out again. It's what the betting experts would call a "lock"....

Then why was Alabama favored? If all the experts saw it, they move the hell out of that line. This did NOT happen.

[Silver&Black]

Then why was Alabama favored? If all the experts saw it, they move the hell out of that line. This did NOT happen.

^
Vegas doesn't get everything correct do they? I guess Vegas had Miss. St. as the #1 team in America after week 8 right? I bet you could of got 50x your money if you would of made that bet at the beginning of the year.

I'll agree that Vegas gets the majority of things right....but your comment makes it seem like Vegas (or the "experts")never gets it wrong.

[Obstructed_View]

Of course you do, but you have no argument to back it up.

K state vs Auburn. You're welcome.

[Obstructed_View]

Please point me to the post where I made the case for Baylor.

And it doesn't matter anyway. Baylor's fate is pretty much in their hands and it doesn't really matter where they are now. If they win out, they have an argument. If they don't, they're toast. The only reason I even brought up Baylor earlier is because TCU people are trying to make the case that the team that beat them is overrated, which is kind of self-defeating.

[jimbo]

What a fucking joke. They're not even showing consistency with their rankings. At least you could count on with the BCS that rankings were generally done with the "best loss" ranking you higher. (Why Texas was pushed out of the NC game in 08, Oklahoma St in 2011)

In the SEC you have to lose your ranking. In every other conference you have to earn it.

Fuck you Condoleeza.

[pgardn]

^
Vegas doesn't get everything correct do they? I guess Vegas had Miss. St. as the #1 team in America after week 8 right? I bet you could of got 50x your money if you would of made that bet at the beginning of the year.

I'll agree that Vegas gets the majority of things right....but your comment makes it seem like Vegas (or the "experts")never gets it wrong.

Vegas reflects what the people think. If a bunch of experts see the trend that you proposed and bet on it appropriately, the line would have moved.

YOU brought "all the experts into this". And you also don't appear to know how Vegas can get things wrong.
Basically you just destroyed your own argument.

[pgardn]

It might be a POS excuse...I'll give you that.

I'm just saying this. If you want to double or triple your money....bet everything you have on the other team to whip Alabama's ass if this scenario ever plays out again. It's what the betting experts would call a "lock"....

Do do you understand what you posted?

[Silver&Black]

Do do you understand what you posted?

I didn't bring up Vegas first...you did. Post #74....

And I posted in Post #77 that Vegas doesn't get everything correct....I guess you didn't read that one.

But honestly....who cares? We're talking about a bowl game that happened last year. It has nothing to do with this year. If Alabama would have lost or won to Oklahoma by 65 points....it means nothing this year. The only thing that matters is what the Playoff committee announced last night....and they all seem to agree that 3 out of the top 4 teams belong to the SEC. Honestly dude...that's all that matters right now.

So what does your final four look like right now....I'm curious.

[pgardn]

You brought up betting and how Alabama was so predictable. Vegas would naturally follow from your all the experts think...

1. Fsu
2. Miss St.
3. Alabama
4. Norte Dame

Of course ND just lost so they can't be up there. But if FSU is 1, ND has to be top 4. Despite the weaknesses FSU has shown they deserve it. They have come thru with constant distractions and without some of their best players.

And oh yes, I despise Jimbo Fishface.

I would take a # of other top 4's without Auburn. No Auburn, no way.

[Silver&Black]

You brought up betting and how Alabama was so predictable. Vegas would naturally follow from your all the experts think...

1. Fsu
2. Miss St.
3. Alabama
4. Norte Dame

Of course ND just lost so they can't be up there. But if FSU is 1, ND has to be top 4. Despite the weaknesses FSU has shown they deserve it. They have come thru with constant distractions and without some of their best players.

And oh yes, I despise Jimbo Fishface.

I would take a # of other top 4's without Auburn. No Auburn, no way.

I'm not going to argue with your list...it's okay with me. I would switch ND for Auburn...and switch Miss. St. with FSU. But overall....it's not completely ludicris.

Next question: Why all the Auburn hate. They're a great football team. Only loss was to Miss. St. (in Starkville)and that game got away from them early. It was 14-0 like 5 minutes in. But they came back and made it a game at the end. They're easily in the top 4 imo. But it really doesn't matter...they play Ole Miss this week...the winner of that game will make the top 4 next week and the loser will fall out. I've got a bunch of Ole Miss friends and they're scared to death of Auburn this week...and they have the best defense in the country at Ole Miss.

My thing with FSU and ND...they've only played one real game and it was against each other. Their schedules are a joke compared to what the SEC West teams go through. (Yes...even including all the cupcakes)

[Infinite_limit]

My thing with FSU and ND...they've only played one real game and it was against each other. Their schedules are a joke compared to what the SEC West teams go through. (Yes...even including all the cupcakes)
Here's the thing. SEC teams only schedule SEC teams. So until Bowl season there is no telling how good they are. Unless you want to reward them on past accomplishments....kinda like being on a 23 game Winning Streak.

[Avante]

There is no debate/argument when it comes to the Pac12 being the second best conference in NCAA football. That is a slamdunk.

[pgardn]

I'm not going to argue with your list...it's okay with me. I would switch ND for Auburn...and switch Miss. St. with FSU. But overall....it's not completely ludicris.

Next question: Why all the Auburn hate. They're a great football team. Only loss was to Miss. St. (in Starkville)and that game got away from them early. It was 14-0 like 5 minutes in. But they came back and made it a game at the end. They're easily in the top 4 imo. But it really doesn't matter...they play Ole Miss this week...the winner of that game will make the top 4 next week and the loser will fall out. I've got a bunch of Ole Miss friends and they're scared to death of Auburn this week...and they have the best defense in the country at Ole Miss.

My thing with FSU and ND...they've only played one real game and it was against each other. Their schedules are a joke compared to what the SEC West teams go through. (Yes...even including all the cupcakes)

I don't hate Auburn at all. The game last year against Alabama was pure joy, I loved it.
I have watched Auburn play this year. K st should have beaten them (not a well played game but it was early) they were awful against SC. And MSU crushed them.
So why all the Auburn love? Ahh MSU beat them... Take off those spectacles, you are not looking at the whole picture imo.

[Pelicans78]

K state vs Auburn. You're welcome.

You mean a game where a SEC team actually won on the road against a Big 12 squad?

[Pelicans78]

Here's the thing. SEC teams only schedule SEC teams. So until Bowl season there is no telling how good they are. Unless you want to reward them on past accomplishments....kinda like being on a 23 game Winning Streak.

Not true. Auburn played K-State out of conference. Georgia pounded Clemson and has GT left on the schedule. LSU beat Wisconsin, Bama beat West Virginia, etc.

[Obstructed_View]

You mean a game where a SEC team actually won on the road against a Big 12 squad?

Actually, I meant a game where a Big 12 team outplayed the SEC team and it gets ignored. West Virginia and Alabama was the same way. SEC teams get credit from voters and pundits for losing close to other SEC teams all the time. It's probably happened in this thread. Oklahoma destroyed Alabama, but people make excuses to discount it, and so Alabama's a preseason number 2 in the rankings.

[Pelicans78]

Actually, I meant a game where a Big 12 team outplayed the SEC team and it gets ignored. West Virginia and Alabama was the same way. SEC teams get credit from voters and pundits for losing close to other SEC teams all the time. It's probably happened in this thread. Oklahoma destroyed Alabama, but people make excuses to discount it, and so Alabama's a preseason number 2 in the rankings.

Well OU had their chance as well but blew it losing to TCU and a home game to KSU. They were a top 4 preaseason team. Baylor has been in the top 10 despite playing no one most of the time outside of their Big12 opponents. It is what it is.

[Avante]

I'd love to see Louisville knock FSU out of it tonight. I'm tired of the Jameis Winston saga and would like to see other teams involved.

Firt time this season the NCAA game gets more interest (from me) than the NFL game.

[Silver&Black]

I don't hate Auburn at all. The game last year against Alabama was pure joy, I loved it.
I have watched Auburn play this year. K st should have beaten them (not a well played game but it was early) they were awful against SC. And MSU crushed them.
So why all the Auburn love? Ahh MSU beat them... Take off those spectacles, you are not looking at the whole picture imo.

Take off those spectacles.....Lol.

Dude you're talking about a team (pretty much the same exact team) that played for the National Championship last year. They're a damn good football team....damn good. "They looked awful against SC"....dude this is the SEC...teams that you think suck will jump up and bite you in the ass if you don't bring your A game. Like Kentucky, Arkansas, even Florida this year. Bring your B or C game....you'll go home with the Loss.

[Avante]

Take off those spectacles.....Lol.

Dude you're talking about a team (pretty much the same exact team) that played for the National Championship last year. They're a damn good football team....damn good. "They looked awful against SC"....dude this is the SEC...teams that you think suck will jump up and bite you in the ass if you don't bring your A game. Like Kentucky, Arkansas, even Florida this year. Bring your B or C game....you'll go home with the Loss.

Let's been honest about a couple things...

While Auburn was a good team last season they got a couple amazing breaks. And if not for playing in the ACC FSU isn't even there. So we saw a rather tainted Championship game in 2013.

[Silver&Black]

Let's been honest about a couple things...

While Auburn was a good team last season they got a couple amazing breaks. And if not for playing in the ACC FSU isn't even there. So we saw a rather tainted Championship game in 2013.

Did Auburn get "lucky" last year...maybe. Hell I'll even argue yes....they did.
Is the FSU championship tainted? Fuck No....
Is Auburn a bad/mediocre football team? Hell no....
Does Auburn deserve to be in the top 4 right now? Yes....

[leemajors]

Take off those spectacles.....Lol.

Dude you're talking about a team (pretty much the same exact team) that played for the National Championship last year. They're a damn good football team....damn good. "They looked awful against SC"....dude this is the SEC...teams that you think suck will jump up and bite you in the ass if you don't bring your A game. Like Kentucky, Arkansas, even Florida this year. Bring your B or C game....you'll go home with the Loss.

The SEC isn't the only conference with rivalries that span decades, tbh :lol

[Avante]

Did Auburn get "lucky" last year...maybe. Hell I'll even argue yes....they did.
Is the FSU championship tainted? Fuck No....
Is Auburn a bad/mediocre football team? Hell no....
Does Auburn deserve to be in the top 4 right now? Yes....

Auburn is a great team, I agree about that.

But....there is no doubt at all they got very very lucky to get to the Championship game, and it's real obvious if FSU played an SEC schedule they aren't there. In other words....better teams weren't there in 2013.

[Silver&Black]

The SEC isn't the only conference with rivalries that span decades, tbh :lol

Really...I didn't know that. Thanks for the input...

[Silver&Black]

People I see get so mad when a SEC team loses and only drops 3-4 spots in the polls...and I can see their point.

But here's the thing...if the Pac-12, Big 12, ACC, or Big 10 would have won 7 out of the last 8 National Championships (with multiple teams doing it)...they would get the same treatment.

Now I'll be the first to admit that I am indeed a SEC homer. I've got my SEC flag hanging outside my front door as I'm typing this. (not really but you get my point) So you can take my comments with a grain of salt if you want to.

But I will say this...homer or not...the SEC is the best football conference in America. And anybody who disagrees with that is either lying to themselves or a SEC hater.

[Avante]

People I see get so mad when a SEC team loses and only drops 3-4 spots in the polls...and I can see their point.

But here's the thing...if the Pac-12, Big 12, ACC, or Big 10 would have won 7 out of the last 8 National Championships (with multiple teams doing it)...they would get the same treatment.

Now I'll be the first to admit that I am indeed a SEC homer. I've got my SEC flag hanging outside my front door as I'm typing this. (not really but you get my point) So you can take my comments with a grain of salt if you want to.

But I will say this...homer or not...the SEC is the best football conference in America. And anybody who disagrees with that is either lying to themselves or a SEC hater.

I totally agree and I'm a Cali-ite with USC my team. The huge diference is in the team speed those teams have in abundance and at every position. The SEC full of big fast athletes unlike any other conference.

I'm first and foremost a track fan, the SEC is faster than most countries, dead serious. With so many of these guys being two sports stars.

Size with speed in abundance...the big SEC advantage

[pgardn]

Take off those spectacles.....Lol.

Dude you're talking about a team (pretty much the same exact team) that played for the National Championship last year. They're a damn good football team....damn good. "They looked awful against SC"....dude this is the SEC...teams that you think suck will jump up and bite you in the ass if you don't bring your A game. Like Kentucky, Arkansas, even Florida this year. Bring your B or C game....you'll go home with the Loss.

So they get credit for playing poorly with the same team because it's the same team. Oh that's rich.
This year, so far, no way they are top 4.

You want them top 4 because your team beat them.
So get the hell outta town with this drivel.
Your really grasping now.

Kentucky, Florida, and Arkansas... 2 of these teams have shit for QBs. No you don't have to bring any such thing like an A game. The teams that are more likely to bite are teams that can move the ball because they can actually pass. They are 1-dimensional teams.

Kentucky... Awful schedule so far.

I thought you were a reasonable poster at first but you are also a fan of a conference. Which is deplorable in the scheme of wanting to win games.

[Infinite_limit]

After the Rose Bowl, my buddy and I ran around the parking lot (Behind stadium is Green grass leading to tailgating) cheering SEC! SEC!! SEC!!! in complete euphoria

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[Silver&Black]

So they get credit for playing poorly with the same team because it's the same team. Oh that's rich.
This year, so far, no way they are top 4.

You want them top 4 because your team beat them.
So get the hell outta town with this drivel.
Your really grasping now.

Kentucky, Florida, and Arkansas... 2 of these teams have shit for QBs. No you don't have to bring any such thing like an A game. The teams that are more likely to bite are teams that can move the ball because they can actually pass. They are 1-dimensional teams.

Kentucky... Awful schedule so far.

I thought you were a reasonable poster at first but you are also a fan of a conference. Which is deplorable in the scheme of wanting to win games.

Name me one team (besides FSU and not in the SEC) you think would beat Auburn on a neutral field?

Dude....you want your favorite team to jump up 10 spots for a win...and only drop 3 spots when you lose?....or say you want your conference to get every single benefit of the doubt? Win about 5-6 National Championships in a row. Or have half your conference make up the top ten hardest schedules in the nation damn near every year.

Until these things are done by either the Pac-12 or Big 12 (honestly I don't think the ACC and Big 10 can do it) the SEC will continue to get every single "benefit" you can possibly think of....

But like I said earlier....our back and forth really doesn't matter. You can think I'm the worst poster on ST...again, it really doesn't matter. The ONLY thing that matters is what the committee puts out on Tuesdays. And so far, after one week, they agree with me....................

[leemajors]

Name me one team (besides FSU and not in the SEC) you think would beat Auburn on a neutral field?

Dude....you want your favorite team to jump up 10 spots for a win...and only drop 3 spots when you lose?....or say you want your conference to get every single benefit of the doubt? Win about 5-6 National Championships in a row. Or have half your conference make up the top ten hardest schedules in the nation damn near every year.

Until these things are done by either the Pac-12 or Big 12 (honestly I don't think the ACC and Big 10 can do it) the SEC will continue to get every single "benefit" you can possibly think of....

But like I said earlier....our back and forth really doesn't matter. You can think I'm the worst poster on ST...again, it really doesn't matter. The ONLY thing that matters is what the committee puts out on Tuesdays. And so far, after one week, they agree with me....................

OU spanked bama last year on a neutral field, they could have done the same to Auburn - what kind of question is that?

[Silver&Black]

OU spanked bama last year on a neutral field, they could have done the same to Auburn - what kind of question is that?


LOL Oklahoma.....

[leemajors]

LOL Alabama?

[Avante]

FSU, ND, Oregon win out they are in. Could we see a final 4 with no SEC there? Is it possible?

[Splits]

^ if Georgia wins the SEC championship, then yes there should be no SEC team unless there are no 1-loss teams in the Big 10 or Big 12

[Pelicans78]

^ if Georgia wins the SEC championship, then yes there should be no SEC team unless there are no 1-loss teams in the Big 10 or Big 12

One loss Big 10 team does not belong. They play no one in conference or out of conference outside of getting thrashed by Oregon.

[Hoops Czar]

FSU, ND, Oregon win out they are in. Could we see a final 4 with no SEC there? Is it possible?

It's wishful thinking but it's not happening. BTW, ND has no sho even if they win out.

[Avante]

It's wishful thinking but it's not happening. BTW, ND has no sho even if they win out.

There is a real scenario where no SEC team will be without two losses.

I do see ND making it if they win out. And....we do have that two loss SEC team.

[Hoops Czar]

There is a real scenario where no SEC team will be without two losses.

I do see ND making it if they win out. And....we do have that two loss SEC team.
Miss. State would have to lose to Missouri/Georgia (unlikely) in the SEC championship game. Auburn or Alabama would have to get tripped up prior to the Iron bowl. If State loses to Alabama, that would be just one loss. I can't see them losing to Ole Miss minus Treadwell. There's a lot of ifs in there but, if the unthinkable should happen, a two loss SECW team that wins the championship game could make the field of four based on their SOS.

ND's best win this year came against Stanford. The committee's not high on them and the close win vs Navy didn't help their cause.

[Avante]

Miss. State would have to lose to Missouri/Georgia (unlikely) in the SEC championship game. Auburn or Alabama would have to get tripped up prior to the Iron bowl. If State loses to Alabama, that would be just one loss. I can't see them losing to Ole Miss minus Treadwell. There's a lot of ifs in there but, if the unthinkable should happen, a two loss SECW team that wins the championship game could make the field of four based on their SOS.

ND's best win this year came against Stanford. The committee's not high on them and the close win vs Navy didn't help their cause.

MSU could lose to both Bama and Ole Miss.
Bama could lose to Auburn/LSU
Auburn could lose to Bama/Georgia

ND could win out giving them wins over USC/Stanford/ASU

Stranger things have happened, just ask Georgia.

[Silver&Black]

New Rankings:

1. Miss. St.
2. FSU
3. Auburn
4. Oregon

[Avante]

New Rankings:

1. Miss. St.
2. FSU
3. Auburn
4. Oregon


I'd love to see....

MSU...SEC
Oregon....Pac12
Michigan St...Big10
TCU...Big12

I see that as being the best situation for the college game. Get everyone involved, almost everyone anyway.

I do believe having ND in the mix is like the Cowboys in the NFL the game is just better if they are relevant.

[Girasuck]

Oregon is losing this week.

[Silver&Black]

I'd love to see....

MSU...SEC
Oregon....Pac12
Michigan St...Big10
TCU...Big12

I see that as being the best situation for the college game. Get everyone involved, almost everyone anyway.

I do believe having ND in the mix is like the Cowboys in the NFL the game is just better if they are relevant.

I don't care if every conference is involved....I want the 4 best teams in America. And btw...this isn't the 60s or 70s anymore.....kids these days know nothing about Notre Dame.

[pgardn]

LOL Alabama?

The excuses for Alabama losing to Okahoma are just comedic.
Its typical SEC drivel. They do have the best conference, but when some bs MSU fan uses the Alabama line you know they root for a conference. In the big scheme of things, there is no way to explain how this end of the year loss by Bama could have hurt MSU.

Its ridiculous... I wanted OU to lose but they did not. Just from a recruiting standpoint.
SEC
SEC
SEC... It's becoming sickening.
Big John Plantation rises... Do we wish we were in the land o cotton. Look away.

[Avante]

If none of these teams make the playoffs, the Avante Curse is real.

And you can't name one college player/team I cursed....right?

[Avante]

Oregon is losing this week.

Wouldn't shock me at all.

[Avante]

I don't care if every conference is involved....I want the 4 best teams in America. And btw...this isn't the 60s or 70s anymore.....kids these days know nothing about Notre Dame.

There is no doubt the more of the country involved is a good thing.

There are tons of guys like myself who aren't kids who follow the college game and know all about ND.

[Silver&Black]

There is no doubt the more of the country involved is a good thing.

There are tons of guys like myself who aren't kids who follow the college game and know all about ND.

I'm not calling you a kid....I'm just saying that Touchdown Jesus is not what it used to be. Even you know that. Half these kids today can't even tell you where the Notre Dame campus is located....

[Avante]

I'm not calling you a kid....I'm just saying that Touchdown Jesus is not what it used to be. Even you know that. Half these kids today can't even tell you where the Notre Dame campus is located....

The thing is who cares about kids? They are a total non factor here. Those who know the college game are well aware of the ND mystique. Those on the committee know all about ND.

Look at how the ND vs FSU game was hyped, yep....ND was involved.

[Silver&Black]

The thing is who cares about kids? They are a total non factor here. Those who know the college game are well aware of the ND mystique. Those on the committee know all about ND.

Look at how the ND vs FSU game was hyped, yep....ND was involved.

I mean seriously...what's the end game here? Are you saying that ND should get the benefit of the doubt (and maybe an undeserving Final Four spot) just because they're Notre Dame and the "old folks" remember their prior mystique?

[Avante]

I mean seriously...what's the end game here? Are you saying that ND should get the benefit of the doubt (and maybe an undeserving Final Four spot) just because they're Notre Dame and the "old folks" remember their prior mystique?

The game is Alabama vs Oregon, that would be the best possible scenario.....the south vs the west coast.

Hell no ND doesn't belong I just know and am seeing enought..tv college football guys....saying what I am. A lot had ND in their first top 4. Look at TCU, MSU, they pale in comparison to the Fighting Irish....with the media. Who can talk TCU/MSU football?

Stop with this...the kids...the old people...silliness ok? Anyone who knows the college game is well aware of ND and their importance.

[Silver&Black]

The game is Alabama vs Oregon, that would be the best possible scenario.....the south vs the west coast.

Hell no ND doesn't belong I just know and am seeing enought..tv college football guys....saying what I am. A lot had ND in their first top 4. Look at TCU, MSU, they pale in comparison to the Fighting Irish....with the media. Who can talk TCU/MSU football?

Stop with this...the kids...the old people...silliness ok? Anyone who knows the college game is well aware of ND and their importance.

When was that last Notre Dame national championship? I think college football has done just fine since then.....

[pgardn]

It's easy to put ND in the top 4. As well as a number of 1 loss teams.

I can't wait till December.
Praying:
2,3, or 4 teams from the SEC make the final 4 play each other again. Or...
Zero SEC teams in the final 4.

Then the press can scream about a stacked committee.
Archie Manning had to drop from the great deciders. I wonder if he has a little SEC bias...
And back to the computer programmers.

[dirk4mvp]

It's easy to put ND in the top 4. As well as a number of 1 loss teams.

I can't wait till December.
Praying:
2,3, or 4 teams from the SEC make the final 4 play each other again. Or...
Zero SEC teams in the final 4.

Then the press can scream about a stacked committee.
Archie Manning had to drop from the great deciders. I wonder if he has a little SEC bias...
And back to the computer programmers.

you're a fucking idiot.

[Avante]

When was that last Notre Dame national championship? I think college football has done just fine since then.....

Why would a guy out here in Cali who is a USC fan even mention ND? Why would I give a damn about ND?

Dude, don't fight me on this ok? Trust me, the media adores ND, ok? If you read/watch anything having to do with NCAA football you'd know this. I see it, what, you don't?

If ND was ranked number one and looking great you'd see what I mean. The media would be freaking out over the Fighting Irish/Touchdown Jesus/The Golden Dome/The Four Horsemen/Win one for the Gipper/Knute Rockne/Rocket Ismail/Joe Montana/ "The Golden Boy" Paul Hornung.......the media gobbles that stuff up, they love it.

Go ahead try and talk TCU football, go ahead............see what I mean?

[Silver&Black]

Why would a guy out here in Cali who is a USC fan even mention ND? Why would I give a damn about ND?

Dude, don't fight me on this ok? Trust me, the media adores ND, ok? If you read/watch anything having to do with NCAA football you'd know this. I see it, what, you don't?

If ND was ranked number one and looking great you'd see what I mean. The media would be freaking out over the Fighting Irish/Touchdown Jesus/The Golden Dome/The Four Horsemen/Win one for the Gipper/Knute Rockne/Rocket Ismail/Joe Montana/ "The Golden Boy" Paul Hornung.......the media gobbles that stuff up, they love it.

Go ahead try and talk TCU football, go ahead............see what I mean?

Does the media adore ND??? Of course....
Does the average college football fan care about ND??? Not really...

The only thing I disagree with you is the fact that you compared them to the Dallas Cowboys. That is two totally different worlds imo. The average NFL fan (I'm talking Buccaneer fans, Jets fans, Patriot fans, Chargers fans, Raiders fans...etc.) keeps up with the Cowboys. No matter who their favorite team is playing...they keep up with the Cowboys game. I know I'm keeping up with the Cowboys score....

I don't think the average college football fan cares who ND is playing for 80% of the year. The only two games that matter are the FSU and USC games this year.
Again, I'm not keeping up with the majority of Notre Dame's games.

[Silver&Black]

It's easy to put ND in the top 4. As well as a number of 1 loss teams.

I can't wait till December.
Praying:
2,3, or 4 teams from the SEC make the final 4 play each other again. Or...
Zero SEC teams in the final 4.

Then the press can scream about a stacked committee.
Archie Manning had to drop from the great deciders. I wonder if he has a little SEC bias...
And back to the computer programmers.

I hope they go back to the computer programmers too.....they are known to have "a little SEC bias". All mathematical formulas and computer algorithms favor the SEC.

Be careful what you wish for..................................

[pgardn]

I hope they go back to the computer programmers too.....they are known to have "a little SEC bias". All mathematical formulas and computer algorithms favor the SEC.

Be careful what you wish for..................................

I don't hate the SEC.
I just call it like I see it.
The SEC is the best conference AND overrated this year.

Is it not going to be great excitement when Georgia wins the SEC playoff?

[pgardn]

you're a fucking idiot.

Says the plantation owner Nazi.
Fkn frat ass pasty white wimp.

Ole missing the point.

[dirk4mvp]

Regardless of if I'm a plantation owning Fkn frat ass pasty white wimp Nazi or not, it doesn't change the fact that you're a fucking idiot, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

I don't hate the SEC.
I just call it like I see it.
The SEC is the best conference AND overrated this year.

Is it not going to be great excitement when Georgia wins the SEC playoff?

Just by reading this post....I can tell the first sentence you typed is a lie.

[pgardn]

Just by reading this post....I can tell the first sentence you typed is a lie.

Well thank you Dr. Freud.

Georgia... The East, seriously.
The West is a monster, but seriously...

[The Reckoning]

Just by reading this post....I can tell the first sentence you typed is a lie.

i hate the SEC tbh. there was a time when the best teams were hyped, not the conferences.

especially now that the Big XII is the best conference and SEC'ers are still fellating each other :lol

[pgardn]

Just by reading this post....I can tell the first sentence you typed is a lie.

And How About the 2nd and 3rd?

[Silver&Black]

i hate the SEC tbh. there was a time when the best teams were hyped, not the conferences.

especially now that the Big XII is the best conference and SEC'ers are still fellating each other :lol

Keep telling yourself that the Big XII is the best conference....it just might come true.

[pgardn]

Regardless of if I'm a plantation owning Fkn frat ass pasty white wimp Nazi or not, it doesn't change the fact that you're a fucking idiot, tbh.

Thank you for your in depth analysis.
I will consider...
Nahh...

Oh yes, tbh. Since I was lying to begin with. Tbh... Fkn retard.

[Silver&Black]

And How About the 2nd and 3rd?

Yeah....how can a conference be the best (your word) and be overrated (again...your word)?

[pgardn]

Yeah....how can a conference be the best (your word) and be overrated (again...your word)?

You are kidding, right?

[Silver&Black]

You are kidding, right?

Well 99% of the time when someone says "that team/conference is overrated".....they don't consider them to be the best? I guess you fall in that 1%.....

Would I be correct in that assumption?

[pgardn]

gr8 post, shitskin.

You think I'm black...
Paranoid little pasty inbred.

[pgardn]

Well 99% of the time when someone says "that team/conference is overrated".....they don't consider them to be the best? I guess you fall in that 1%.....

Would I be correct in that assumption?

How much better is the SEC?

Take the top 7 from the Big 12 and Big 10. Compare to the SEC, who is better?

Need more help?

[Silver&Black]

How much better is the SEC?

Take the top 6 from the Big 12 and Big 10. Compare to the SEC, who is better?

Need more help?

LOL Using 2 conferences.

Why stop there....why not throw in the best of the Pac 12 and ACC too.

Need more help?

[pgardn]

LOL Using 2 conferences.

Why stop there....why not throw in the best of the Pac 12 and ACC too.

Need more help?

So now you get it!

If you listen to CBS enough, the answer to my question is yes, the SEC is better.

[pgardn]

Last year I thought the SEC was better than they are this year.

Yes or no?

Its not so difficult to have an opinion.
This is discussion, try a little creativity.
Its not that hard.

[Silver&Black]

So now you get it!

If you listen to CBS enough, the answer to my question is yes, the SEC is better.

Good....glad you've come to terms with the obvious. Now if we could only get djohn2oo8 and The Reckoning on board....

[pgardn]

Surely you aren't white, shitskin. You're too retarded and it would be a shame if you were tbh

But you are a product of the Mississippi educational system?
tbh, or deceitful, stupid fck?

[pgardn]

Good....glad you've come to terms with the obvious. Now if we could only get djohn2oo8 and The Reckoning on board....

So you think the SEC present would be tougher than the top 7 of the Big 12 and Big 10.
I don't think so. But it's up for debate. I do think the SEC is the best Conf. however.
See, it's doable, it's discussion, opinion.
Good show.

[pgardn]

Judging by the way you try constructing sentences, you're a product of a crack head welfare queen, tbh.


:lol shitskin

tbh...

Is that a stutter?
Cracker boy?

[pgardn]

I don't hate the SEC.
I just call it like I see it.
The SEC is the best conference AND overrated this year.



So now read again.

[pgardn]

Why can't?
a shitskin like you?
type sentences tbh?

To be honest...

Did I do ok Mrs. Crutchfield?

[Infinite_limit]

FSU @ Miami 5PM

[Hoops Czar]

I don't hate the SEC.
I just call it like I see it.
The SEC is the best conference AND overrated this year.

Is it not going to be great excitement when Georgia wins the SEC playoff?

If the SEC is overrated, What does that make the rest of college football? You should just thank your lucky stars you no longer have to play the aggies.

[pgardn]

If the SEC is overrated, What does that make the rest of college football? You should just thank your lucky stars you no longer have to play the aggies.

Well I think the PAC 12 is underrated. How's that... The rest about right.
I'm basing most of this on CBS and ESPN comments. They have obvious reasons to promote the SEC.

I would much rather play ATM than what we have left in the big 12.
Thats a possible win at this point. They are imploding while we are just bad.

[Hoops Czar]

Well I think the PAC 12 is underrated. How's that... The rest about right.
I'm basing most of this on CBS and ESPN comments. They have obvious reasons to promote the SEC.

I would much rather play ATM than what we have left in the big 12.
Thats a possible win at this point. They are imploding while we are just bad.

Your watching the wrong networks. Tune into FOX sports 1, They practically slobber over the pac-12 conference. Other than Oregon, you'll have to name Names because there isn't another team in that conference worth talking about.

[pgardn]

Your watching the wrong networks. Tune into FOX sports 1, They practically slobber over the pac-12 conference. Other than Oregon, you'll have to name Names because there isn't another team in that conference worth talking about.

Waiting to see Arizona St. play ND.
Big game. Except for SEC fans.

[Splits]

If the SEC is overrated, What does that make the rest of college football? You should just thank your lucky stars you no longer have to play the aggies.

:lmao Aggy
:lmao almost beat at home by UL Monroe in the middle of the season
:lmao Sun Belt READY
:lmao :cry bowl eligible :cry

[Avante]

It works like this....

The south is where we find the big fast black athletes in abundance, they are all over the place. If they can stay close to home why wouldn't they? So they do, ending up at those SEC schools.

I've always wondered if the souths love for football would have out weighed their predjudices? As we know without the black athlete they are not competing on the national stage.

[Avante]

Where is the Gameday crew at today, yep....BIG10 country, why? It's because...three yards and a cloud of dust...Woody...Bo...The Buckeyes...The Wolverines...the cold....will never die in college football. So many better games today than OSU vs Michigan State.

[pgardn]

Someone has not watched Ohio St. under Urban Meyer.

[Infinite_limit]

It works like this....

The south is where we find the big fast black athletes in abundance, they are all over the place. If they can stay close to home why wouldn't they? So they do, ending up at those SEC schools.

I've always wondered if the souths love for football would have out weighed their predjudices? As we know without the black athlete they are not competing on the national stage.
It is still dumb slaves knocking skulls together for the enjoyment of the enlightened White audience.

[Avante]

It is still dumb slaves knocking skulls together for the enjoyment of the enlightened White audience.

Tell that to Grambling, Jackson St, Alcorn, Florida A&M, Texas Southern, and another 20 or so HBCU schools. Dude, do you know anything?

[Avante]

Ok, they are out...

ND
Ole Miss
Auburn
LSU
Michigan St
Kansas St

Looking good...

MSU
FSU
Oregon
Bama
TCU
Baylor
Ohio St

Hopefully, we do get a SEC/ACC/Pac12/Big12 team in there, sorry Big10.

[Pelicans78]

Where is the Gameday crew at today, yep....BIG10 country, why? It's because...three yards and a cloud of dust...Woody...Bo...The Buckeyes...The Wolverines...the cold....will never die in college football. So many better games today than OSU vs Michigan State.

Also because ESPN/ABC were televising the game and they will do whatever they can to market it even if both teams are overrated as hell and don't belong in no top 10 discussion due to the quality of opponents they've beaten.

[Avante]

Also because ESPN/ABC were televising the game and they will do whatever they can to market it even if both teams are overrated as hell and don't belong in no top 10 discussion due to the quality of opponents they've beaten.

We all know how it works, the thing is ESPN did pick that game knowing the schedule.

Like ND the Big10 has all that history and the media loves history.

[Pelicans78]

TCU, Baylor, Oregon, Bama, and Arizona St stood out last night.

Looking at College Football Reference SRS ratings, which encompasses strictly margin of victory and strength of schedule, here's how the contenders look in top 40 wins and no Big Ten team is a contender.

FSU - Ranked 11th in the SRS ratings - Wins over Clemson (29), Louisville (22), and Notre Dame (23). Strength of schedule is 48th.

Miss. State - Ranked 5th in the SRS ratings. Wins over Auburn (2), LSU (14), A&M (24), Arky (27). Strength of schedule is 32

Bama - Ranked 3rd in the SRS ratings. Wins over LSU (14), A&M (24), Arky (27), Tennessee (37). Loss at Ole Miss (1). Strength of Schedule is 4.

Oregon - Ranked 4th in the SRS ratings. Wins over UCLA (16), Mich. St (21), Utah (32), and Stanford (36). Loss vs Arizona (25). Strength of schedule is 18.

TCU - Ranked 6th in the SRS ratings. Wins over KSU (12), OU (13), WVU (30), and Minnesota (39). Loss at Baylor (10). Strength of schedule 39.

Ohio State - Ranked 8th in the SRS ratings. Win at Michigan St (21). Loss vs Va Tech (40). Strength of schedule is 56.

Arizona State - Ranked 9th in the SRS ratings. Wins at USC (18), vs ND (23), vs Utah (32). Loss vs UCLA (16). Strength of schedule is 27.

Baylor - Ranked 11th in the SRS ratings. Wins vs TCU (6), at OU (13). Loss at WVU (30). Strength of schedule is 77.


Won't include any two loss teams and no other one loss team deserves consideration.

With that, my top 4 are:

1. Mississippi St
2. Bama
3. TCU
4. Oregon

Oregon (4) vs. MSU (1) at the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans

TCU (3) vs Bama (2) at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, CA.

[pgardn]

TCU, Baylor, Oregon, Bama, and Arizona St stood out last night.

Looking at College Football Reference SRS ratings, which encompasses strictly margin of victory and strength of schedule, here's how the contenders look in top 40 wins and no Big Ten team is a contender.

FSU - Ranked 11th in the SRS ratings - Wins over Clemson (29), Louisville (22), and Notre Dame (23). Strength of schedule is 48th.

Miss. State - Ranked 5th in the SRS ratings. Wins over Auburn (2), LSU (14), A&M (24), Arky (27). Strength of schedule is 32

Bama - Ranked 3rd in the SRS ratings. Wins over LSU (14), A&M (24), Arky (27), Tennessee (37). Loss at Ole Miss (1). Strength of Schedule is 4.

Oregon - Ranked 4th in the SRS ratings. Wins over UCLA (16), Mich. St (21), Utah (32), and Stanford (36). Loss vs Arizona (25). Strength of schedule is 18.

TCU - Ranked 6th in the SRS ratings. Wins over KSU (12), OU (13), WVU (30), and Minnesota (39). Loss at Baylor (10). Strength of schedule 39.

Ohio State - Ranked 8th in the SRS ratings. Win at Michigan St (21). Loss vs Va Tech (40). Strength of schedule is 56.

Arizona State - Ranked 9th in the SRS ratings. Wins at USC (18), vs ND (23), vs Utah (32). Loss vs UCLA (16). Strength of schedule is 27.

Baylor - Ranked 11th in the SRS ratings. Wins vs TCU (6), at OU (13). Loss at WVU (30). Strength of schedule is 77.


Won't include any two loss teams and no other one loss team deserves consideration.

With that, my top 4 are:

1. Mississippi St
2. Bama
3. TCU
4. Oregon

Oregon (4) vs. MSU (1) at the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans

TCU (3) vs Bama (2) at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, CA.

1. Fsu
2. Miss St.
3. Oregon
4. Bama or TCU

[pgardn]

We all know how it works, the thing is ESPN did pick that game knowing the schedule.

Like ND the Big10 has all that history and the media loves history.

Three yards and a clod of mud was Ala/LSU.

You honestly think OSU plays this way under Meyer?
You are living in the past.

[Avante]

Three yards and a clod of mud was Ala/LSU.

You honestly think OSU plays this way under Meyer?
You are living in the past.

I was talking about the "historical" aspects of the Big10, I assumed by mentioning Woody, Bo......it was obvious.

[Robz4000]

:lol everyone counting out ASU

Can't say I blame most of you, they love to choke when it matters. If they can go undefeated into the PAC 12 championship game I'll start to truly believe.

[Splits]

If FSU goes undefeated and the other conference champs sans Big 10 are 1-loss teams, then the final 4 is obvious unless it is biased. What will make it very interesting is if FSU loses or Georgia somehow wins the SEC champ game. Then shit is fucked up and bullshit.

[pgardn]

I was talking about the "historical" aspects of the Big10, I assumed by mentioning Woody, Bo......it was obvious.

Why?

It has little to do with today's big 10.

Might as well put Saban in there, your description is his college football dream world.
"Ya see we get to many injuries with these spread hurry up offenses"

then...

“That’s a tough, physical game,” Saban said. “That’s old-fashioned ball. That’s the kind of football that, when I played, we played. Nothing spread about that.” Concerning the LSU victory.

So why don't you make a list of the most prolific lying college coaches, you can start with Switzer and Saban.

[pgardn]

If FSU goes undefeated and the other conference champs sans Big 10 are 1-loss teams, then the final 4 is obvious unless it is biased. What will make it very interesting is if FSU loses or Georgia somehow wins the SEC champ game. Then shit is fucked up and bullshit.

This is is exactly what I want to see tested. Even tastier would be Missouri winning the SEC championship. They lost to mighty Indiana at home when Indiana smashed mouthed the football down their throats on the last drive. That's a horrid loss non conference.

Or I would like to see Alabama and Miss St play a great game with Miss st. barely losing. Then have Fl St., Oregon, and number of specefic 1 loss teams lose again. Then Georgia beat Bama. Which could lead to 3 SEC Teams selected. This idea that a committee won't be regionally biased is absurd. And with all the networks that televise specific conferences basically running add campaigns for their conferences; the mess is too interesting to pass up.

I can say this with a bad UT team having nothing to lose. As a Baylor fan having a 1 loss team getting rejected it might not be so pleasant.

[Avante]

Why?

It has little to do with today's big 10.

Might as well put Saban in there, your description is his college football dream world.
"Ya see we get to many injuries with these spread hurry up offenses"

then...

“That’s a tough, physical game,” Saban said. “That’s old-fashioned ball. That’s the kind of football that, when I played, we played. Nothing spread about that.” Concerning the LSU victory.

So why don't you make a list of the most prolific lying college coaches, you can start with Switzer and Saban.


The college game is about tradition. The media loves to talk about....the good old days. So we do see Notre Dame/Big10 get a lot of attention because of those...once upon a time...days. Something we don't see with schools like TCU, Baylor.

Who can talk Baylor football, yep...few. What college football fan isn't well aware of ND/Big10 "lore" ?

[pgardn]

The college game is about tradition. The media loves to talk about....the good old days. So we do see Notre Dame/Big10 get a lot of attention because of those...once upon a time...days. Something we don't see with schools like TCU, Baylor.

Who can talk Baylor football, yep...few. What college football fan isn't well aware of ND/Big10 "lore" ?

The unbiased committee members who shut this out of their minds in making selections.

[Avante]

The unbiased committee members who shut this out of their minds in making selections.

Don't act as if you know these people, ok? We have no idea what they are thinking.

[Avante]

In a perfect college football world we need to see....

FSU
MSU
Oregon
TCU

tomorrow night.

[Blake]

You should just thank your lucky stars you no longer have to play the aggies.

Oh hell no. They're a bunch of crazy sheep fucking jizz jar bastards, but they were ours. Now they're yours.

:cry i miss those guys :cry

[Blake]

Don't act as if you know these people, ok? We have no idea what they are thinking.

You acted as if you knew they'd pick Notre Dame for sure because :cry it's notre dame :cry

But at least you came around.

And you're fat.

Ok?

[Blake]

:lol everyone counting out ASU

Can't say I blame most of you, they love to choke when it matters. If they can go undefeated into the PAC 12 championship game I'll start to truly believe.

Well at least Tech>ASU

[Avante]

You acted as if you knew they'd pick Notre Dame for sure because :cry it's notre dame :cry

But at least you came around.

And you're fat.

Ok?

How many yards does Nick Chubb have, what's his average?

Texas Tech by two TD's, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Blake]

In a perfect college football world we need to see....

FSU
MSU
Oregon
TCU

tomorrow night.

Fuck MSU.

Top 4 I want to see

FSU
Bama
Oregon
TCU.


It sucks we don't have at least 8 teams though. They need to fix that.

[Avante]

Fuck MSU.

Top 4 I want to see

FSU
Bama
Oregon
TCU.


It sucks we don't have at least 8 teams though. They need to fix that.

I don't care which SEC team is there as long as just one. We do need as much of the country involved as we can get.

They will change it to top 8 before the end of this decade.

[Blake]

They will change it to top 8 before the end of this decade.

Dunno. The contracts they all signed expire in 2024 (or 2025)

[Avante]

Dunno. The contracts they all signed expire in 2024 (or 2025)

Contracts and football, come on man.

[Blake]

Contracts and football, come on man.

This is the NCAA where feet drag.

[Infinite_limit]

http://www.news4jax.com/image/view/-/22760640/highRes/1/-/maxh/360/maxw/640/-/tc1pp0z/-/Miami-vs--Florida-State.jpg

[Avante]

http://www.news4jax.com/image/view/-/22760640/highRes/1/-/maxh/360/maxw/640/-/tc1pp0z/-/Miami-vs--Florida-State.jpg

Al Golden has never beat FSU. If a FSU loss means two SEC teams get in....hmmmm?

[Robz4000]

Well at least Tech>ASU

:lol what a forgettable game on our side. At least ASU's gone in a better direction since.

[Blake]

:lol what a forgettable game on our side. At least ASU's gone in a better direction since.

:cry Tech

[NFO]

In a perfect college football world we need to see....

FSU
MSU
Oregon
TCU

tomorrow night.

Why FSU???

They have been behind 4 times at halftime to bad teams. Winston makes some great throws, but also has been turnover prone this year. Other than their D line their defense is not good.

I get that are the defending national champs, but that was last year not this year. Their schedule is paper thin this year.

[pgardn]

Don't act as if you know these people, ok? We have no idea what they are thinking.

Oh shit, Archie Manning had to leave the committee for medical reasons. He would have had no bias.
GTFO moron. We have no idea what the Big 12 commissioner is thinking either... Really?

[pgardn]

:cry Tech

Ungodly amount of mistakes by Tech this year.
True suffering right there....

[Infinite_limit]

Why FSU???

They have been behind 4 times at halftime to bad teams. Winston makes some great throws, but also has been turnover prone this year. Other than their D line their defense is not good.

I get that are the defending national champs, but that was last year not this year. Their schedule is paper thin this year.
FSU secondary is good. The linebackers are kind of a revolving door at this point.

[Avante]

Oregon at number 1?

FSU looked bad.

MSU lost.

[Splits]

If LSU and A&M both drop from the top-25, that means Miss St has 1 win over a ranked team this year, and that's Auburn :lol How can they still be top 4?

[Pelicans78]

Yeah MsU's status is up for debate. But if they win at Ole Miss and finish the season at one loss, then they will end up in top 4.

[DesignatedT]

If LSU and A&M both drop from the top-25, that means Miss St has 1 win over a ranked team this year, and that's Auburn :lol How can they still be top 4?

I don't think it works that way, technically it's where teams were ranked at the time you beat them.

[Splits]

I don't think it works that way, technically it's where teams were ranked at the time you beat them.

No. From last week:


"For the third consecutive week, the committee looked at the overall body of work, their strength of schedule, and looked at the number of top 25 wins," committee chairman Jeff Long said. "TCU has two top 25 wins and Baylor has one."

Baylor's one win was TCU because they beat the ranked Sooners who then dropped out of the rankings. TCU's were KState and Minnesota

[Silver&Black]

New Rankings: (11/18/2014)

1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. MSU

5. TCU
6. Ohio. St

[Infinite_limit]

New Rankings: (11/18/2014)

1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. MSU

5. TCU
6. Ohio. St
Losers ranked ahead of a team that hasn't lost since 2012

[Avante]

Losers ranked ahead of a team that hasn't lost since 2012

Ashland Simmoms wins the Montana 100m in 10.86. He is the fastest HS kid in the state.

A 10.85 won't get you out of the semi's at Cali/Texas/Florida state, see how it works?

[Silver&Black]

Losers ranked ahead of a team that hasn't lost since 2012

I understand your argument...and I would probably side with you. But, as long as you're in the top 4....that's all that matters. Right?

[Infinite_limit]

Ashland Simmoms wins the Montana 100m in 10.86. He is the fastest HS kid in the state.

A 10.85 won't get you out of the semi's at Cali/Texas/Florida state, see how it works?
# of Loses = 100 m time

FSU has the fastest 100 meter time

[Splits]

Piss St. with 1 top-25 win, just lost, and remains in the top 4. smh shit is fixed for the SEC.

[Avante]

# of Loses = 100 m time

FSU has the fastest 100 meter time

I'll try again..........it's all about level of opposition....ok? That's why Marshall was neverr in the mix at all.

[Splits]

And how the fuck is Minnesota still ranked? :lmao they were 25 last week, lost AT HOME, and remain 25?

While Notre Dame was 18th, lost, has the same number of losses as Minny, and fell out of the rankings.

Fucking joke.

[Avante]

Piss St. with 1 top-25 win, just lost, and remains in the top 4. smh shit is fixed for the SEC.

Who wouldn't have....just lost...playing at Bama? Baylor would have gotten disected.

[Infinite_limit]

I'll try again..........it's all about level of opposition....ok? That's why Marshall was neverr in the mix at all.
FSU has a tougher schedule than Oregon

[Splits]

Who wouldn't have....just lost...playing at Bama? Baylor would have gotten disected.

I'm not talking about Baylor. I'm talking about the weak schedule that Piss St. has played. The only ranked team they beat is Aweburn who just lost to Aggy :lol and got pummeled by Georgia in consecutive weeks. Last week, the committee made a point about the number of ranked teams beaten and how important that factors into the rankings.

TCU on the other hand has 3 wins over top-25 teams and only loss is a top-10 on the road by 3 points

[Silver&Black]

FSU has a tougher schedule than Oregon

I don't believe you.

[Silver&Black]

I'm not talking about Baylor. I'm talking about the weak schedule that Piss St. has played. The only ranked team they beat is Aweburn who just lost to Aggy :lol and got pummeled by Georgia in consecutive weeks. Last week, the committee made a point about the number of ranked teams beaten and how important that factors into the rankings.

Updated SOS stats:



Rank
Team
Rating
High
Low
Last


1
Auburn (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/auburn-tigers) (7-3)
40.1
1
16
1


2
Alabama (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/alabama-crimson-tide) (9-1)
39.8
2
68
4


3
Miss State (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-state-bulldogs) (8-1)
39.1
3
83
14


4
LSU (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/louisiana-state-tigers) (6-4)
39.1
2
58
2



5
Arkansas (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/arkansas-razorbacks) (4-5)
38.6
2
20
11


6
W Virginia (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/west-virginia-mountaineers) (5-4)
37.5
1
58
10


7
Oklahoma (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/oklahoma-sooners) (7-3)
37.1
1
52
3


8
Mississippi (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-rebels) (7-2)
37.0
2
76
5


9
Tennessee (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/tennessee-volunteers) (4-5)
37.0
3
69
6


10
Kansas St (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/kansas-state-wildcats) (6-2)
36.6
1
35
7




:lmao Miss. St has a weak schedule....#3 hardest schedule in the country. Try again...

[Splits]

Updated SOS stats:



Rank
Team
Rating
High
Low
Last


1
Auburn (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/auburn-tigers) (7-3)
40.1
1
16
1


2
Alabama (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/alabama-crimson-tide) (9-1)
39.8
2
68
4


3
Miss State (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-state-bulldogs) (8-1)
39.1
3
83
14


4
LSU (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/louisiana-state-tigers) (6-4)
39.1
2
58
2


5
Arkansas (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/arkansas-razorbacks) (4-5)
38.6
2
20
11


6
W Virginia (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/west-virginia-mountaineers) (5-4)
37.5
1
58
10


7
Oklahoma (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/oklahoma-sooners) (7-3)
37.1
1
52
3


8
Mississippi (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-rebels) (7-2)
37.0
2
76
5


9
Tennessee (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/tennessee-volunteers) (4-5)
37.0
3
69
6


10
Kansas St (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/kansas-state-wildcats) (6-2)
36.6
1
35
7



:lmao Miss. St has a weak schedule....#3 hardest schedule in the country. Try again...

:lol all of the top 5 and 7/10 are SEC teams. Wonder why? Because they were all ranked high in preseason polls and the "evidence" you're sighting is based on the rank of the team when you played them, which is NOT the same measure the playoff committee uses. They consider SOS based on the rank of the team currently, not when you beat them. Piss St has 1 top-25 win which is ranked 14th. TCU beat 12, 21, and 25. The playoff committee, just like the media, has an overwhelming SEC bias and it's not even debatable.

[Splits]

And the only reason there are 3 Big 12 teams in the top-10 "SOS" is because they played SEC non-conference games, one of which is Tennessee???? :lmao what a fucking joke.

[Silver&Black]

:lol all of the top 5 are SEC teams. Wonder why? Because they were all ranked high in preseason polls and the "evidence" you're sighting is based on the rank of the team when you played them, which is NOT the same measure the playoff committee uses. They consider SOS based on the rank of the team currently, not when you beat them. Piss St has 1 top-25 win which is ranked 14th. TCU beat 12, 21, and 25. The playoff committee, just like the media, has an overwhelming SEC bias and it's not even debatable.

Is Miss. St. ranked #4 in the new playoff poll justified? Maybe...it's up for debate. Maybe they are....maybe they aren't.

Should TCU be in the top 4? Maybe....again, it's up for debate. Maybe they should....maybe they shouldn't.

Are you making up shit again....like saying, "Piss. St. plays a weak schedule."? Fuck yeah you are. One quick Google search would of told you they play the 3rd hardest schedule in the country. It's no different that Infinite_Limit saying that FSU plays a harder schedule than Oregon. No...they don't. SOS: FSU-42 Oregon-20

[Infinite_limit]

Should be

1. Alabama
2. FSU
3. Oregon
4. MSU


#2 or #3 obviously means little to me but if Noles drop to #4 behind a bunch of losers, I will be angry.



Oregon
8-2 MSU
8-2 UCLA
7-3 Utah
6-5 Washington
5-5 Stanford


FSU
7-3 Louisville
7-3 Notre Dame
7-3 Clemson
6-4 Miami FL
5-5 Oklahoma St



Equal schedules

[Avante]

I'm not talking about Baylor. I'm talking about the weak schedule that Piss St. has played. The only ranked team they beat is Aweburn who just lost to Aggy :lol and got pummeled by Georgia in consecutive weeks. Last week, the committee made a point about the number of ranked teams beaten and how important that factors into the rankings.

TCU on the other hand has 3 wins over top-25 teams and only loss is a top-10 on the road by 3 points


I stopped reading after....weak schedule that Piss State played. What are you doing here trying to talk college football? That was just about the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. And I have read Blake/Clipper Nation.

[Splits]

Is Miss. St. ranked #4 in the new playoff poll justified? Maybe...it's up for debate. Maybe they are....maybe they aren't.

Should TCU be in the top 4? Maybe....again, it's up for debate. Maybe they should....maybe they shouldn't.

Are you making up shit again....like saying, "Piss. St. plays a weak schedule."? Fuck yeah you are. One quick Google search would of told you they play the 3rd hardest schedule in the country. It's no different that Infinite_Limit saying that FSU plays a harder schedule than Oregon. No...they don't. SOS: FSU-42 Oregon-20


I stopped reading after....weak schedule that Piss State played. What are you doing here trying to talk college football? That was just about the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. And I have read Blake/Clipper Nation.


Please, list me the meaningful wins for Miss St.

[Silver&Black]

Please, list me the meaningful wins for Miss St.

Listen dumbass....I'll agree with you. Miss. St's #4 ranking maybe unjustified.

The only reason why I even replied to you in the first place is because you are once again making up shit. You clearly stated that Miss. St. plays a weak schedule. That's just not true.....it's a huge lie. Just admit it....you once again blurted out some garbage without doing one bit of research.

If you don't agree with Miss. St's ranking....that's fine. But I cannot tolerate you lying to make your "opinion' seem more legit.

In what world does the 3rd hardest schedule in the nation = a weak schedule?

[Avante]

Please, list me the meaningful wins for Miss St.

List me the date you rammed your head into a wall. As we saw from above....


College FB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

This is one of our old power ratings. You can see a list of all of our new power ratings on our Rankings Overview page (http://www.spurstalk.com/ncf/rankings/).



Date: 11/18 http://www.teamrankings.com/images/cal_16.png



Seasons : 2003-2004 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2004-01-05) | 2004-2005 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2005-01-05) | 2005-2006 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2006-01-05) | 2006-2007 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2007-01-09) | 2007-2008 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2008-01-08) | 2008-2009 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2009-01-09) | 2009-2010 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2010-01-08) | 2010-2011 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2011-01-11) | 2011-2012 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2012-01-10) | 2012-2013 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2013-01-08) | 2013-2014 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2014-01-07) | 2014-2015



Rank

Team

Rating

High

Low

Last



1

Auburn (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/auburn-tigers) (7-3)

40.1

1

16

1



2

Alabama (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/alabama-crimson-tide) (9-1)

39.8

2

68

4



3

Miss State (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-state-bulldogs) (8-1)

39.1

3

83

14



4

LSU (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/louisiana-state-tigers) (6-4)

39.1

2

58

2



5

Arkansas (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/arkansas-razorbacks) (4-5)

38.6

2

20

11



6

W Virginia (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/west-virginia-mountaineers) (5-4)

37.5

1

58

10



7

Oklahoma (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/oklahoma-sooners) (7-3)

37.1

1

52

3



8

Mississippi (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-rebels) (7-2)

37.0

2

76

5



9

Tennessee (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/tennessee-volunteers) (4-5)

37.0

3

69

6



10

Kansas St (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/kansas-state-wildcats) (6-2)

36.6

1

35

7



11

Baylor (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/baylor-bears) (7-1)

36.6

8

119

12



12

Texas A&M (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/texas-am-aggies) (6-4)

36.1

2

26

8



13

Utah (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/utah-utes) (6-3)

35.9

13

117

13



14

TX Christian (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/texas-christian-horned-frogs) (8-1)

35.5

2

58

9



15

S Carolina (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/south-carolina-gamecocks) (4-5)

35.4

3

33

20



16

Georgia (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/georgia-bulldogs) (8-2)

34.9

4

39

23



17

UCLA (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/ucla-bruins) (8-2)

34.9

12

54

17



18

Florida (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/florida-gators) (5-4)

34.8

8

109

16



19

Texas Tech (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/texas-tech-red-raiders) (2-7)

34.7

8

81

21



20

Oregon (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/oregon-ducks) (8-1)

34.1

14

70

19

[Splits]

List me the date you rammed your head into a wall. As we saw from above....


College FB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

This is one of our old power ratings. You can see a list of all of our new power ratings on our Rankings Overview page (http://www.spurstalk.com/ncf/rankings/).



Date: 11/18 http://www.teamrankings.com/images/cal_16.png


Seasons : 2003-2004 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2004-01-05) | 2004-2005 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2005-01-05) | 2005-2006 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2006-01-05) | 2006-2007 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2007-01-09) | 2007-2008 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2008-01-08) | 2008-2009 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2009-01-09) | 2009-2010 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2010-01-08) | 2010-2011 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2011-01-11) | 2011-2012 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2012-01-10) | 2012-2013 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2013-01-08) | 2013-2014 (http://www.spurstalk.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team?rating_date=2014-01-07) | 2014-2015



Rank
Team
Rating
High
Low
Last


1
Auburn (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/auburn-tigers) (7-3)
40.1
1
16
1


2
Alabama (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/alabama-crimson-tide) (9-1)
39.8
2
68
4


3
Miss State (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-state-bulldogs) (8-1)
39.1
3
83
14


4
LSU (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/louisiana-state-tigers) (6-4)
39.1
2
58
2


5
Arkansas (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/arkansas-razorbacks) (4-5)
38.6
2
20
11


6
W Virginia (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/west-virginia-mountaineers) (5-4)
37.5
1
58
10


7
Oklahoma (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/oklahoma-sooners) (7-3)
37.1
1
52
3


8
Mississippi (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/mississippi-rebels) (7-2)
37.0
2
76
5


9
Tennessee (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/tennessee-volunteers) (4-5)
37.0
3
69
6


10
Kansas St (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/kansas-state-wildcats) (6-2)
36.6
1
35
7


11
Baylor (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/baylor-bears) (7-1)
36.6
8
119
12


12
Texas A&M (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/texas-am-aggies) (6-4)
36.1
2
26
8


13
Utah (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/utah-utes) (6-3)
35.9
13
117
13


14
TX Christian (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/texas-christian-horned-frogs) (8-1)
35.5
2
58
9


15
S Carolina (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/south-carolina-gamecocks) (4-5)
35.4
3
33
20


16
Georgia (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/georgia-bulldogs) (8-2)
34.9
4
39
23


17
UCLA (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/ucla-bruins) (8-2)
34.9
12
54
17


18
Florida (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/florida-gators) (5-4)
34.8
8
109
16


19
Texas Tech (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/texas-tech-red-raiders) (2-7)
34.7
8
81
21


20
Oregon (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/oregon-ducks) (8-1)
34.1
14
70
19




You're both sighting a single, biased source, based off of the initial rankings before the season started.

Answer the question: list me the meaningful wins for Miss St.

[Splits]

And obviously when I say "weak schedule" I'm talking in relation to the other top 1-loss teams, not the entire fucking nation.

[Silver&Black]

And obviously when I say "weak schedule" I'm talking in relation to the other top 1-loss teams, not the entire fucking nation.

Now we're moving the goal posts I see........................................

[Splits]

I'm not talking about Baylor. I'm talking about the weak schedule that Piss St. has played. The only ranked team they beat is Aweburn who just lost to Aggy and got pummeled by Georgia in consecutive weeks. Last week, the committee made a point about the number of ranked teams beaten and how important that factors into the rankings.


TCU on the other hand has 3 wins over top-25 teams and only loss is a top-10 on the road by 3 points


:lol all of the top 5 and 7/10 are SEC teams. Wonder why? Because they were all ranked high in preseason polls and the "evidence" you're sighting is based on the rank of the team when you played them, which is NOT the same measure the playoff committee uses. They consider SOS based on the rank of the team currently, not when you beat them. Piss St has 1 top-25 win which is ranked 14th. TCU beat 12, 21, and 25. The playoff committee, just like the media, has an overwhelming SEC bias and it's not even debatable.


And the only reason there are 3 Big 12 teams in the top-10 "SOS" is because they played SEC non-conference games, one of which is Tennessee???? :lmao what a fucking joke.


Now we're moving the goal posts I see........................................

Please.

My argument was purely TCU has 3 top-25 wins vs. 1 for Miss St, that the playoff committee last week sighted top-25 wins as a major factor, and now they've contradicted themselves in favor of an SEC team.

[Splits]

Answer the question: list me the meaningful wins for Miss St.

Still waiting.

[Silver&Black]

Please.

My argument was purely TCU has 3 top-25 wins vs. 1 for Miss St, that the playoff committee last week sighted top-25 wins as a major factor, and now they've contradicted themselves in favor of an SEC team.

Even against the 1 loss teams...Miss. St.'s schedule still shouldn't be considered "weak". In fact, it is probably still the most difficult (maybe excluding Alabama).

Listen dude...there is no such thing as a "weak schedule" in the :cry ESS EEE SEE :cry West. Just do me one favor....admit you unfairly called Miss. St.'s schedule weak (without doing a fucking single bit of research)...and I will say that TCU deserves the #4 spot over Miss. St. in the very next post.

[Splits]

Even against the 1 loss teams...Miss. St.'s schedule still shouldn't be considered "weak". In fact, it is probably still the most difficult (maybe excluding Alabama).

Listen dude...there is no such thing as a "weak schedule" in the :cry ESS EEE SEE :cry West. Just do me one favor....admit you unfairly called Miss. St.'s schedule weak (without doing a fucking single bit of research)...and I will say that TCU deserves the #4 spot over Miss. St. in the very next post.

It's the same thing. TCU deserves to be 4th because they beat 3 top-25 teams vs. 1 win against top-25 teams for Miss St. The playoff committee is extremely biased towards SEC teams and it is evident in their weekly rankings.

And WTF is with your infatuation with :cry admit you were wrong even in PM :cry

Are you still in middle school or something? Or just an insecure closet faggot?

[Splits]

TCU: 3 top-25 wins KState (12), Oklahoma (21), Minnesota (25)
Ohio St: 2 top-25 wins Michigan State(11), Minnesota (25)
Baylor: 2 top-25 wins TCU (5), Oklahoma (21)
Miss State: 1 top-25 win Auburn (14)

Miss State's only top-25 win is against a 3-loss team, haven't beaten any 1 or 2 loss teams. Overrated SOS PERIOD

[Silver&Black]

It's the same thing. TCU deserves to be 4th because they beat 3 top-25 teams vs. 1 win against top-25 teams for Miss St. The playoff committee is extremely biased towards SEC teams and it is evident in their weekly rankings.

And WTF is with your infatuation with :cry admit you were wrong even in PM :cry

Are you still in middle school or something? Or just an insecure closet faggot?

Sounds like you're taking out your aggression with the playoff committee on me....:cry

BTW...What's your infatuation with making up shit? You're a fucking liar...just calling a spade a spade tbh......

[Silver&Black]

:cry The Playoff Committee unfairly favors the SEC :cry

[Splits]

Sounds like you're taking out your aggression with the playoff committee on me....:cry

BTW...What's your infatuation with making up shit? You're a fucking liar...just calling a spade a spade tbh......

:lol being called a liar by someone who refuses to acknowledge the numbers I just laid out

:cry but Splits you thought LSU had fewer timeouts than they did :cry

:madrun liar liar pants on fire for making a simple mistake :madrun

:madrun admit you were wrong in a PM and I'll forgive you :madrun

:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

[Splits]

:cry The Playoff Committee unfairly favors the SEC :cry

:cry you finally admitted it :cry

I forgive you :cry

[Avante]

TCU: 3 top-25 wins KState (12), Oklahoma (21), Minnesota (25)
Ohio St: 2 top-25 wins Michigan State(11), Minnesota (25)
Baylor: 2 top-25 wins TCU (5), Oklahoma (21)
Miss State: 1 top-25 win Auburn (14)

Miss State's only top-25 win is against a 3-loss team, haven't beaten any 1 or 2 loss teams. Overrated SOS PERIOD

There is no doubt the SEC is far superior to the Big12. We all know this, so when any team is playing....Auburn, LSU, Tex A&M, Alabama they will get more respect than teams playing Texas Tech, almost losing to lowly Kansas etc.

Imagine what Bama would do to TCU at Tuscaloosa, it would get ugly.

[Splits]

There is no doubt the SEC is far superior to the Big12. We all know this, so when any team is playing....Auburn, LSU, Tex A&M, Alabama they will get morte respect than teams playing Texas Tech, almost losing to lowly Kansas etc.

Then why are LSU and Argy not ranked despite overwhelming SEC bias? You want to have it both ways.

[Avante]

Then why are LSU and Argy not ranked despite overwhelming SEC bias? You want to have it both ways.

What Big12 team faces anything like this....

at Auburn
at Florida
Kentucky
Ole Miss
Alabama

...like LSU did? Yep...none!

Texas A&M....at MSU, Ole Miss, at Alabama.

Now think little guy.

[Silver&Black]

:lol being called a liar by someone who refuses to acknowledge the numbers I just laid out

:cry but Splits you thought LSU had fewer timeouts than they did :cry

:madrun liar liar pants on fire for making a simple mistake :madrun

:madrun admit you were wrong in a PM and I'll forgive you :madrun

:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

Good one....I'll give you that. I've never once said that Miss. St. had more wins against top 25 teams....so WTF are you so mad about. I also never said that MSU deserved to be ranked over TCU. I just called you a fucking liar...and that fact still hasn't changed.

BTW....it was "but Splits you thought Alabama had fewer timeouts than they did". Once again...you not thinking before you post something.

[Splits]

What Big12 team faces anything like this....

at Auburn
at Florida
Kentucky
Ole Miss
Alabama

...like LSU did? Yep...none!

Texas A&M....at MSU, Ole Miss, at Alabama.

Now think little guy.


Then why are LSU and Argy not ranked despite overwhelming SEC bias? You want to have it both ways.

And why did Argy almost lose at home to Sun Belt doormat ULM?

[Silver&Black]

Imagine what Bama would do to TCU at Tuscaloosa, it would get ugly.

Like Alabama vs. Texas A&M 59-0 ugly...

TCU would get wrecked at Tuscaloosa. Sure as hell would be A LOT WORSE than a 5 point Miss. St. loss....

[Avante]

And why did Argy almost lose at home to Sun Belt doormat ULM?

All SEC teams have a harder road to travel that any teams from other conferrences and everyone knows this. That's why the conference gets the respect it does. There is a reason no Big12 team is in the top 4.

[Splits]

Like Alabama vs. Texas A&M 59-0 ugly...

TCU would get wrecked at Tuscaloosa. Sure as hell would be A LOT WORSE than a 5 point Miss. St. loss....

Kinda like how Oklahoma totally got destroyed by Bama in a BCS bowl last year

[Splits]

All SEC teams have a harder road to travel that any teams from other conferrences and everyone knows this. That's why the conference gets the respect it does. There is a reason no Big12 team is in the top 4.

Extreme, unsubstatiated SEC bias

[Avante]

Like Alabama vs. Texas A&M 59-0 ugly...

TCU would get wrecked at Tuscaloosa. Sure as hell would be A LOT WORSE than a 5 point Miss. St. loss....

If it were a fight they'd stop it on cuts. TCU would get destroyed and those people know that.

[Avante]

Extreme, unsubstatiated SEC bias

Don't understand the college game at all do ya slugger?

[Splits]

If it were a fight they'd stop it on cuts. TCU would get destroyed and those people know that.

Everyone knows that, obviously. I mean, who needs actual numbers or facts to set precedent, just "know" it!

http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/dildos-falling-slow-mo1.gif

[Splits]

Don't understand the college game at all do ya slugger?

:cry it was only a BCS game, not national championship :cry (http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=340020333)

[Silver&Black]

Kinda like how Oklahoma totally got destroyed by Bama in a BCS bowl last year

Exactly...TCU would get destroyed by Alabama this year just like Oklahoma destroyed Alabama last year.

I'm proud of you Splits....you're proudly waving your Big 12 flag. Keep it up.... (And I'm dead serious....no bullshit)