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DeadlyDynasty
10-30-2014, 09:42 PM
What the fuck is he doing out there?

spurraider21
10-30-2014, 09:44 PM
http://106.imagebam.com/download/ApjmtY6vT02nRJJ7RmFDWw/28960/289590178/monkeyball2.gif

spurraider21
10-30-2014, 09:53 PM
:lmao that play

rogues
10-30-2014, 09:54 PM
:lol Frizzle banning himself just in time

DPG21920
10-30-2014, 09:58 PM
Two times CAR has been within 10 yards of the endzone and don't do one run play with their actual RB's. Just stupid football.

spurraider21
10-30-2014, 10:00 PM
Two times CAR has been within 10 yards of the endzone and don't do one run play with their actual RB's. Just stupid football.
maddening, especially when Stewart is actually having a good game

benefactor
10-30-2014, 10:01 PM
:lol they will still pay him

DeadlyDynasty
10-30-2014, 10:03 PM
:lmao that play
Can I get a .gif of that sack?:lmao

HI-FI
10-30-2014, 10:05 PM
he looks so lost or confused in the pocket, then sidearms shit into triple coverage. fucking terrible and a waste of a great D.

DPG21920
10-30-2014, 10:11 PM
What's really odd is the announcer has gone out of his way to praise and defend Cam today. Today of all days where he's been really bad. He's gushing about the throws then the other announcers says "He's only completing about 30% of his passes" :lol

Darth_Pelican
10-30-2014, 10:13 PM
What the fuck is he doing out there?

:lol I was shocked when I saw you picked Carolina to win this game

DeadlyDynasty
10-30-2014, 10:19 PM
:lol I was shocked when I saw you picked Carolina to win this game
I made that pick on 30mg Ambien, 200mg Tramadol, and 100mg Benadryl to be fair

benefactor
10-30-2014, 10:24 PM
I made that pick on 30mg Ambien, 200mg Tramadol, and 100mg Benadryl to be fair
Damn nigga

Pelicans78
10-30-2014, 10:29 PM
I made that pick on 30mg Ambien, 200mg Tramadol, and 100mg Benadryl to be fair

I was wondering what you were thinking. I saw this ass-kicking coming from a mile away.

Malik Hairston
10-30-2014, 11:37 PM
Carolina has a bad coach, below average QB, 1 competent WR, average RBs and an average O-line..their defense isn't dominant like they were last season, and the only reason they will look even close to average, as a team, is because of their bad division..

Just a poorly managed team, they should fire their coach and GM, and draft a QB, too..

Avante
10-30-2014, 11:54 PM
This was such and obvious "spot" for the Saints it was ridiculous. The Panthers simply suck, and Newton sucks the hardest. Only bummer is I didn't bet more....damn!

Silver&Black
10-31-2014, 12:16 AM
Has no lyfe officially retired from ST? I'm expecting him to come in here any moment and say it isn't Cam's fault....it's the terrible play-calling.

spurraider21
10-31-2014, 12:35 AM
Has no lyfe officially retired from ST? I'm expecting him to come in here any moment and say it isn't Cam's fault....it's the terrible play-calling.
he's a drama queen so he'll be back at some point. but i doubt he's going to come back until newton has a good game, so we might have to wait a while

Avante
10-31-2014, 12:46 AM
If ya watch the Carolina sidelines you see how when Newton leaves the field everyone walks away from him or turn their back, I get the feeling he's not well liked, not that anyone would admit that.

spurraider21
10-31-2014, 12:47 AM
it would be hilarious if the panthers decided to move forward with him

Avante
10-31-2014, 01:00 AM
it would be hilarious if the panthers decided to move forward with him

I don't like seeing "young" guys doing a lot of tv spots/commercials, especially those who haven't really done anything as a pro. Just something wrong with it and I get the feel the teammates resent it.

Clipper Nation
10-31-2014, 01:03 AM
When will the Panthers grasp the obvious and start Anderson?

Avante
10-31-2014, 01:15 AM
When will the Panthers grasp the obvious and start Anderson?

Do you really think the Panther brass don't know all about who gives them the best chance to win right now? Anderson ain't shit guy, and we'd see that real quick if they did play him for any period of time at all.

Sure, Newton has lost it, you are right....he does suck, but Anderson is not the answer.

Pelicans78
10-31-2014, 06:12 AM
Sad part is Saints had two turnovers deep in Carolina territory earlier in the game. The score could have been alot worse. I was conservative picking 34-17. Deep down I thought it would be 41-10.

I always enjoy when the Saints and Niners play each other. Physical games, big play weapons on both sides.

Clipper Nation
10-31-2014, 09:19 AM
Do you really think the Panther brass don't know all about who gives them the best chance to win right now?
Apparently not, since they keep starting Cum.

Trill Clinton
10-31-2014, 11:31 AM
cam was actually playin well this season but these last couple of games have been terrible. his o line is horrible and its taking a toll on him. he's getting happy feet in the pocket and forcing passes cuz he doesn't have the time to go throughout his progressions.

the panthers front office did a horrible job of building around him. they have so much money tied up between williams and stewart its sickening. most of his problems can be fixed with an improved o line and an off season working on his mechanics.

The Gemini Method
10-31-2014, 11:34 AM
The loss of Gross and the lack of re-tooling the OL in the offseason has come back to haunt the Kitty Kats.

Blizzardwizard
10-31-2014, 11:54 AM
But but but motivational in game speeches :cry

benefactor
10-31-2014, 12:01 PM
lol progressions

spurraider21
10-31-2014, 12:10 PM
cam was actually playin well this season but these last couple of games have been terrible. his o line is horrible and its taking a toll on him. he's getting happy feet in the pocket and forcing passes cuz he doesn't have the time to go throughout his progressions.

the panthers front office did a horrible job of building around him. they have so much money tied up between williams and stewart its sickening. most of his problems can be fixed with an improved o line and an off season working on his mechanics.
Last year his oline was great and his decline was blamed on his receivers, only to see smith and lafell ball elsewher

Trill Clinton
10-31-2014, 12:19 PM
Last year his oline was great and his decline was blamed on his receivers, only to see smith and lafell ball elsewher


i don't watch much panther football but i've been following them this year cuz i have benjamin on all my fantasy teams. blaming anything on steve smith is stupid.

spurraider21
10-31-2014, 01:11 PM
i don't watch much panther football but i've been following them this year cuz i have benjamin on all my fantasy teams. blaming anything on steve smith is stupid.
last year we were hearing about newton struggling because his receivers were bad and smith was declining

Avante
10-31-2014, 01:23 PM
Like I mentioned, I don't like to see these young guys who really haven't done anything doing all those tv spots. I do believe their teammates don't like it. What has Cam Newton ever really done in the NFL to warrant the attention he gets, yep, nothing. Same can be said about RGIII, why is he hawking this and that? He's never done anything at the NFL level. Now look at where those two are. It's real obvious RGIII is never going to be a great NFL QB.

Guy wins a SB, sure he's going to cash in on that, that is different.

Trainwreck2100
10-31-2014, 01:39 PM
Like I mentioned, I don't like to see these young guys who really haven't done anything doing all those tv spots. I do believe their teammates don't like it. What has Cam Newton ever really done in the NFL to warrant the attention he gets, yep, nothing. Same can be said about RGIII, why is he hawking this and that? He's never done anything at the NFL level. Now look at where those two are. It's real obvious RGIII is never going to be a great NFL QB.

Guy wins a SB, sure he's going to cash in on that, that is different.

Did you really have to reiterate (look it up) something you posted in this thread 12 hours ago

Avante
10-31-2014, 01:55 PM
Did you really have to reiterate (look it up) something you posted in this thread 12 hours ago

Stop worrying so much about the posters guy, ok? Talk about the topic, alright?

Trainwreck2100
10-31-2014, 01:58 PM
Stop worrying so much about the posters guy, ok? Talk about the topic, alright?

Thats alright im good with op and he wouldn't mind me telling you about you double posting he probably didn't appreciate your posting the same exact point twice. Did you realize you did that or did you forget?

Avante
10-31-2014, 02:03 PM
Thats alright im good with op and he wouldn't mind me telling you about you double posting he probably didn't appreciate your posting the same exact point twice. Did you realize you did that or did you forget?

In case ya haven't noticed little guy I possess an incredible memory. Once something enters, locked away forever.

I just saw another Cam Newton spot on tv so commented on it, wow....big deal. Dude, have fun with this stuff, you are way too uptight/serious....ok? Just a messageboard...chill~~~~~~~~

Starting now unless you are talking about the topic we are done....got it? I'm not interested in your stupid bullshit, yep....boring.

Trainwreck2100
10-31-2014, 02:52 PM
In case ya haven't noticed little guy I possess an incredible memory. Once something enters, locked away forever.

I just saw another Cam Newton spot on tv so commented on it, wow....big deal. Dude, have fun with this stuff, you are way too uptight/serious....ok? Just a messageboard...chill~~~~~~~~

Starting now unless you are talking about the topic we are done....got it? I'm not interested in your stupid bullshit, yep....boring.

I tried too be done with you you broke our agreement

TheSanityAnnex
10-31-2014, 02:58 PM
I made that pick on 30mg Ambien, 200mg Tramadol, and 100mg Benadryl to be fair

I've got a ton of tramadols I was prescribed for my back, any fun to be had with them? All out of Norco 10-325s.

Kawhi
10-31-2014, 03:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1TRmp0CcAATQa_.jpg

spurraider21
10-31-2014, 04:00 PM
last year he was worse than either of his first two seasons. their record reflects how dominant their defense was. his individuals numbers shrank

Pelicans78
10-31-2014, 04:32 PM
Yeah their offense was average at best all season. Their defense was among the best for most of the year. But he did lead more game-winning drives, even on games where he and the offense was struggling.

chunticakes
10-31-2014, 06:21 PM
I've got a ton of tramadols I was prescribed for my back, any fun to be had with them? All out of Norco 10-325s.

I don't get a buzz off them, they're not really narcotics. Codeine is king IMO.

Silver&Black
10-31-2014, 06:40 PM
:cry But Cam had one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time :cry

benefactor
10-31-2014, 07:06 PM
I've got a ton of tramadols I was prescribed for my back, any fun to be had with them? All out of Norco 10-325s.
Not really. Good luck scoring Norcos now. Gonna get harder and hard now that they have moved to CII.

Pelicans78
10-31-2014, 08:44 PM
Not really. Good luck scoring Norcos now. Gonna get harder and hard now that they have moved to CII.

Thank goodness they did that. Now patients will be annoyed having to pick up their Norco scripts.

benefactor
10-31-2014, 09:36 PM
Thank goodness they did that. Now patients will be annoyed having to pick up their Norco scripts.
Yep...no more huge bottles either. CII's are a 30 day supply only.

DeadlyDynasty
10-31-2014, 10:23 PM
I've got a ton of tramadols I was prescribed for my back, any fun to be had with them? All out of Norco 10-325s.
Not worth it. NSAIDs typically don't create a high, but 200-400mg (4-8 pills) WILL in fact give you a buzz--anything over that and you'll be approaching the seizure threshold. They also take a toll on your kidneys and prolonged use will make your diastolic skyrocket.

Basically, just use them as intended (they help) or sell them to some poor sucker.

TheCultOfPersonality
11-01-2014, 07:21 AM
Carolina has a bad coach, below average QB, 1 competent WR, average RBs and an average O-line..their defense isn't dominant like they were last season, and the only reason they will look even close to average, as a team, is because of their bad division..

Just a poorly managed team, they should fire their coach and GM, and draft a QB, too..
+1

I said it in another thread, this team needs to draft a QB. I look at their roster and they got nothing at the QB position. Derek Anderson has sucked for the majority of his career and has problems with accuracy and taking care of the football. For pete's sake the guy has worse career passing numbers than Michael Vick in Atlanta and Anderson can't even beat you with his feet.:lol And of course their 3rd stringer is Joe Webb. The guy is so horrible that he made the horrible Packers defense look like the 2000 Ravens.:lol

Cam Newton, Derek Anderson, and Joe Webb. Either way the Panthers are screwed at that position.

spurraider21
11-01-2014, 04:29 PM
What's funny is realistically I don't see them parting ways with cum

Mal
11-02-2014, 07:17 PM
Was Newton already been overpaid as his monkeyball fella Colin ?

DD
11-10-2014, 09:31 PM
Newton should be barred from Primetime games, it's killing the NFL

benefactor
11-10-2014, 09:49 PM
:lol

KoolAid Mans Brother
11-16-2014, 04:12 PM
:lmao Ice up, faggot

Robz4000
11-16-2014, 04:15 PM
Of all the black QBs, he is no doubt the worst.

Mal
11-16-2014, 04:35 PM
Panthers are lucky they didnt extend him yet.

spurraider21
11-16-2014, 04:38 PM
he played poorly for most of the game, but he would get credit for a GW drive if Gano doesn't miss a 46 yarder... just to be fair

chunticakes
11-16-2014, 04:43 PM
wonder if he takes a paycut this offseason since you know, he sucks.

Malik Hairston
11-16-2014, 05:00 PM
Of all the black QBs, he is no doubt the worst.

RG3 is far worse, tbh..he has Jackson, Garcon and Alfred Morris, yet can't move the ball or win games:lol..

Cat has been really bad, but at least he can argue that his weapons are terrible..

Robz4000
11-16-2014, 05:03 PM
RG3 is far worse, tbh..he has Jackson, Garcon and Alfred Morris, yet can't move the ball or win games:lol..

Cat has been really bad, but at least he can argue that his weapons are terrible..

Forgot about Knee tbh, but at this point I think we all agree he shouldn't be in the NFL...

Holden_Caulfield
11-16-2014, 05:29 PM
pay the man :lol

Kawhi
11-18-2014, 03:54 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2wFHZpCMAAoXno.jpg

DeadlyDynasty
11-30-2014, 10:44 PM
50% passing, an int, and sub-200 yds--against the lowly Vikings.

Just embarrassing.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
11-30-2014, 11:21 PM
50% passing, an int, and sub-200 yds--against the lowly Vikings.

Just embarrassing.

Still puts up better stats without an offensive line than any Bill player has in 3 decades

DPG21920
11-30-2014, 11:24 PM
Still puts up better stats without an offensive line than any Bill player has in 3 decades

So you are saying a top QB with the best defensive player in the game equates to 3-8-1?

spurraider21
11-30-2014, 11:24 PM
bledsoe's first season with the Bills was pretty good, throwing to Price and Moulds

Pelicans78
11-30-2014, 11:26 PM
So you are saying a top QB with the best defensive player in the game equates to 3-8-1?

Apparently the Bills haven't done anything since 1984.

Pelicans78
11-30-2014, 11:26 PM
bledsoe's first season with the Bills was pretty good, throwing to Price and Moulds

That team had a great offense but terrible defense. The next season it was the opposite.

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 12:10 PM
Apparently the Bills haven't done anything since 1984.

Apparently, the ammonia from the litter box has gotten to this fuck. Jim Kelly with cancer is 100x better than sCam.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:09 PM
Apparently, the ammonia from the litter box has gotten to this fuck. Jim Kelly with cancer is 100x better than sCam.

I'd still take Cam over Russell. Russell would shit his pants so bad if he ever had to play with Carolina's front line.


Imagine Cam with a stacked O-Line, stacked running backs, many weapons. Must be nice to be given your career.

Cam earned his. Everywhere he went he has won, and he will win in Carolina.

Raven
12-02-2014, 01:15 PM
So you are saying a top QB with the best defensive player in the game equates to 3-8-1?

i don't think it's fair to count derek anderson's performance in.

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 01:16 PM
I'd still take Cam over Russell. Russell would shit his pants so bad if he ever had to play with Carolina's front line.


Imagine Cam with a stacked O-Line, stacked running backs, many weapons. Must be nice to be given your career.

Cam earned his. Everywhere he went he has won, and he will win in Carolina.

Stacked O-line? You still frontin' bruh. Seattle's O-Line has been atrocious these past 2 years. The only bright spot is Max Unger and he's hurt. They won the title with a terrible line. Running backs? Yeah Marshawn has been the best player for us. WRs stacked? Even Harvin, who was our best WR, only managed to play a few games for the Seahawks. He earned his stripes in the SB but you're delusional if you think he aided in the trek. Wilson is more accurate and is light-years smarter than Cam. That's the sad truth. Cam has led you to a 3-8-1 record--I am guessing he isn't winning shit this year.

Raven
12-02-2014, 01:17 PM
^ terrible line :lmao:lmao:lmao

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:23 PM
^ terrible line :lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao right?

such a faggot homer.

I went rent to school with Russell, watched all his games, this is why football fans get slammed in other countries for being retarded

Clipper Nation
12-02-2014, 01:35 PM
Imagine Cam with a stacked O-Line, stacked running backs, many weapons.
That was last year's team, according to you at the time, and it resulted in zero playoff wins. Before this year, he had a great O-line, Steve Smith, and a stacked defense, and still didn't win shit.

With this year's supporting cast: Derek Anderson 1-0, Cum Newton 2-8-1.

Raven
12-02-2014, 01:36 PM
:lol atrocious oline, except they had two pro bowl starters :lol

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 01:36 PM
So you watched all his games? Now you're a fucking football savant? Bitch, you can't even construct a coherent sentence. Your QB is not going to amount to nothing. Dude had a decent line last year and managed to get beat by Colin Sackorpick. That's rich. 50% completion rate against the Vikings. :lol 3-8-1.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:37 PM
That was last year's team, according to you at the time, and it resulted in zero playoff wins. Before this year, he had a great O-line, Steve Smith, and a stacked defense, and still didn't win shit.

With this year's supporting cast: Derek Anderson 1-0, Cum Newton 2-8-1.

12-4, first division title since 08

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 01:37 PM
:lol atrocious oline, except they had two pro bowl starters :lol

Who were out most of the season last year--quit acting like they were the Cowboys o-line.

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 01:38 PM
12-4, first division title since 08

:lol getting bitch slapped at home by Colin Sackorpick by all people.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:40 PM
Who were out most of the season last year--quit acting like they were the Cowboys o-line.

I was under the impression this was a team game? So it's all Cam's fault that our record is like that? Not Greg Hardy mixed the coaching staff? Not because our running backs have been undrafted free agents for 7 of 11 games thus far?

Nope all Cam. Just as retarded as saying "Russell for MVP"

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 01:44 PM
I was under the impression this was a team game? So it's all Cam's fault that our record is like that? Not Greg Hardy mixed the coaching staff? Not because our running backs have been undrafted free agents for 7 of 11 games thus far?

Nope all Cam. Just as retarded as saying "Russell for MVP"

Who's saying Russell for MVP? Not I. But you make it seem like Cam is without any blame for this.

Clipper Nation
12-02-2014, 01:46 PM
12-4, first division title since 08
Sweet regular season, but nothing to show for it. Tebow, Sanchez, and TJ Yates have won more playoff games than Cum Newton.

Raven
12-02-2014, 01:47 PM
Who were out most of the season last year--quit acting like they were the Cowboys o-line.

well i can tell you that it was far better than it is this year, at least that you can admit i hope.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:48 PM
Sweet regular season, but nothing to show for it. Tebow, Sanchez, and TJ Yates have won more playoff games than Cum Newton.

Ok? Cam has won more awards than any of them. Doesn't really mean anything. This is only his fourth year.

Clipper Nation
12-02-2014, 01:49 PM
:lol atrocious oline, except they had two pro bowl starters :lol
PFF rankings in the Struggle era: 20th, 27th, 17th. Doesn't mean Struggle is anything more than a game manager, but his O-line has been average at best and terrible at worst.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:50 PM
PFF rankings in the Struggle era: 20th, 27th, 17th. Doesn't mean Struggle is anything more than a game manager, but his O-line has been average at best and terrible at worst.

Well that proves that PFF is a sack of shit.

How about you watch the game faggot. Matt Bonner is a plus 855 for his career

Clipper Nation
12-02-2014, 01:50 PM
Ok? Cam has won more awards than any of them. Doesn't really mean anything. This is only his fourth year.
Playoff wins > "awards."

Raven
12-02-2014, 01:55 PM
PFF rankings in the Struggle era: 20th, 27th, 17th. Doesn't mean Struggle is anything more than a game manager, but his O-line has been average at best and terrible at worst.

i don't take pff rankings for olines seriously, i really don't see how you can consider a line giving the time wilson has and still say he has a bad/average line. For example, play action, the line resists but after 6-8 sec wilson starts monkeying around and gets sacked.. i can hardly believe that pff doesn't count that as a negative offensive play.

Clipper Nation
12-02-2014, 01:56 PM
Well that proves that PFF is a sack of shit.
Not really. Seattle's O-line hasn't been able to stay healthy in recent years, especially Okung and Unger. Last year, James Carpenter had to play himself into shape and McQuistan had to be played out-of-position when Okung went down. Also, until this year, they had to rely on Breno Giacomini (a headcase who racked up penalties) at RT. When he went down last year, they had to start a rookie who was a disaster in pass protection. It's really not hard to understand the poor production from their O-line in the last three years.


How about you watch the game faggot. Matt Bonner is a plus 855 for his career
Funny how you're all about stats when they fit your Cum Newton agenda, but when you disagree with the numbers, then it's "watch the game faggot."

The Gemini Method
12-02-2014, 01:57 PM
well i can tell you that it was far better than it is this year, at least that you can admit i hope.

It was. But not by much because it was much penalized last year with Giacomini and McQuistan.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-02-2014, 01:57 PM
Not really. Seattle's O-line hasn't been able to stay healthy in recent years, especially Okung and Unger. Last year, James Carpenter had to play himself into shape and McQuistan had to be played out-of-position when Okung went down. Also, until this year, they had to rely on Breno Giacomini (a headcase who racked up penalties) at RT. It's really not hard to understand the poor production from their O-line in the last three years.


Funny how you're all about stats when they fit your Cum Newton agenda, but when you disagree with the numbers, then it's "watch the game faggot."

Those are raw numbers, not those stupid advanced numbers that mean not shit.

Go pay a visit to the other thread.

Clipper Nation
12-02-2014, 02:01 PM
Those are raw numbers, not those stupid advanced numbers that mean not shit.

Go pay a visit to the other thread.
Who cares if they're "raw" or "advanced" statistics? Either statistics matter or they don't. By the way, your "raw numbers" don't mean shit because (for example, with your Cum/Montana comparison) they don't account for how much easier it is for today's quarterbacks to pile up stats than it was for previous eras due to rule changes.

spurraider21
12-02-2014, 02:10 PM
:lmao breno giacomini

Spur-Addict
12-02-2014, 03:08 PM
:lmao breno giacomini

:lol Seriously, who touts that sloppy fat fuck.

Raven
12-02-2014, 03:30 PM
:lmao breno giacomini

facts man, face it once and for all

spurraider21
12-02-2014, 03:31 PM
facts man, face it once and for all
you've given zero facts :lol

you make up stories of how he has been a difference maker for seatte and the jets when there is absolutely nothing to support that position

Spur-Addict
12-02-2014, 03:33 PM
:lol atrocious oline, except they had two pro bowl starters :lol

Who are never healthy. Check last year, and this year. Who cares how many Pro Bowlers you have if they're never on the field.

Raven
12-02-2014, 03:37 PM
you've given zero facts :lol

you make up stories of how he has been a difference maker for seatte and the jets when there is absolutely nothing to support that position

difference maker you just invented it right now :lol.. i've simply said that they were better off with him (which gemini just admitted) and i said that at one point (when NE, SF and others had injuries and seattle didn't) they were the top line.

Spur-Addict
12-02-2014, 03:40 PM
It was. But not by much because it was much penalized last year with Giacomini and McQuistan.

Nah, I'd say it's better this year. No Okung, Unger, and even Fat Giac was out as well. We were starting guys drafted in the six round last year. Do you remember that Texans game? :lol

Sweezy is far better this year comparatively to last year, the growth is clear. And Britt has played in every game, and has played well. Okung is playing hurt, but he is still playing. And Unger has been out a while. And really, there's no real difference between Britt and Giac. To be strait, I like Britt better. The two guys missing weren't all that great, at all really. Quist is garbage.

spurraider21
12-02-2014, 03:43 PM
difference maker you just invented it right now :lol.. i've simply said that they were better off with him (which gemini just admitted) and i said that at one point (when NE, SF and others had injuries and seattle didn't) they were the top line.


he actually is, making a stud out of mark ingram is a pretty strong sign of that .. now of course you can deny anthing but you can't complain about the oline and pretend the only one who isn't still there is not the main reason for the regression forever...

:rolleyes

and you're "he actually is" statement was in response to me sarcastically saying "yeah, breno is making a huge difference for the jets"

Raven
12-02-2014, 03:47 PM
:rolleyes

and you're "he actually is" statement was in response to me sarcastically saying "yeah, breno is making a huge difference for the jets"

:lol
that is almost a year after the debate.. but nice one tbh :lol

spurraider21
12-02-2014, 03:50 PM
:lol
that is almost a year after the debate.. but nice one tbh :lol
that was 2 weeks ago

Spur-Addict
12-02-2014, 03:51 PM
Even entertaining a Giacomini argument is retarded, I don't even know why I'm even stating the obvious :lol

Raven
12-02-2014, 04:26 PM
that was 2 weeks ago

i know, but it is almost a year after the debate.. jets went run heavy this week too tbh, somehow almost won against the dolfins.. didn't really watch the game though..

Malik Hairston
12-02-2014, 05:11 PM
Ranking O-lines in pass blocking is extremely difficult, tbh..you don't really know whether the offensive line is just poor, or if the Quarterback can't properly assess a defense and make the proper audibles/line adjustments..it's also dependent on how long the QB holds the ball for, as well..assessing run blocking is much easier, obviously..

When the Broncos had Tebow, the O-line had major struggles, but a large part of that was because of his inability to read a defense and make adjustments, for example..

Football Outsider's Pass Blocking Rankings, for this year:

Seattle- 26th
Carolina- 27th
SF- 30th
Washington- 31st

spurraider21
12-02-2014, 05:13 PM
teams with running QB's will probably grade lower since they hold the ball longer, leading to more "pressures" accumulating

the same applies to the Steelers tbh

Malik Hairston
12-02-2014, 05:15 PM
Ya, all methods to rank O-lines are pretty flawed, there's really no way of knowing unless you are part of the team and are always aware of the playcalling/scheme/potential audibles, etc..

spurraider21
12-02-2014, 05:22 PM
Ranking O-lines in pass blocking is extremely difficult, tbh..you don't really know whether the offensive line is just poor, or if the Quarterback can't properly assess a defense and make the proper audibles/line adjustments..it's also dependent on how long the QB holds the ball for, as well..assessing run blocking is much easier, obviously..

When the Broncos had Tebow, the O-line had major struggles, but a large part of that was because of his inability to read a defense and make adjustments, for example..

Football Outsider's Pass Blocking Rankings, for this year:

Seattle- 26th
Carolina- 27th
SF- 30th
Washington- 31st
the raiders are ranked #1 on that list :lol

virtually every team with a mobile QB grades poorly as well

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-07-2014, 04:14 PM
That Cam dude really sucks

Silver&Black
12-07-2014, 04:16 PM
That Cam dude really sucks

Dude you're 4-8-1. You know that right?

Clipper Nation
12-07-2014, 04:19 PM
Carolina's O-line stepping up, Cum hasn't been sacked. Team Leaders Greg Olsen and Jonathan Stewart carrying the team.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-07-2014, 04:21 PM
Dude you're 4-8-1. You know that right?
All we need is 6

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-07-2014, 04:21 PM
Carolina's O-line stepping up, Cum hasn't been sacked. Team Leaders Greg Olsen and Jonathan Stewart carrying the team.
Yep.. When Cam gets time you see what happens

Clipper Nation
12-07-2014, 04:25 PM
Yep.. When Cam gets time you see what happens

:lol Sure, when the O-line plays perfectly, he looks like an okay quarterback against a cupcake opponent. Otherwise, he holds onto the ball for an eternity and gets exposed. Cum is no franchise QB, that's for sure.

Kool Bob Love
12-07-2014, 10:11 PM
Real quiet around these parts.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-07-2014, 10:37 PM
Real quiet around these parts.
:toast

unleashbaynes
12-08-2014, 09:59 AM
Man, faggot homers sure are annoying as shit. Cam Newton sucks and you're only lying to yourself and setting yourself up for disappointment year after year if you root for such a worthless gimmick fuck. If you actually cared about competing for championships you'd probably want a real QB.

Mal
12-08-2014, 10:06 AM
Man, faggot homers sure are annoying as shit. Cam Newton sucks and you're only lying to yourself and setting yourself up for disappointment year after year if you root for such a worthless gimmick fuck. If you actually cared about competing for championships you'd probably want a real QB.

Probably half of league is without real QB. That sad. So much money and couldnt find 32 guys, who can play QB position.

Blizzardwizard
12-08-2014, 10:41 AM
Wait, people are still under the illusion that Cam Newton is more than just a gimmick game manager?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-08-2014, 11:10 AM
The salt is so real in this thread.


Cam gets time 4 total TD's and 115 PR.


best game the line has played all year

N0 LyF3 ScRuB
12-08-2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 7: Newton completed 21-of-33 passes for 226 yards and three touchdowns, while also rushing 12 times for 83 yards and another score during Sunday's 41-10 rout of the Saints in New Orleans. Newton was absolutely unstoppable Sunday, connecting with eight different receivers, including touchdown passes to tight end Greg Olsen, wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin and running back Fozzy Whittaker. It was Newton's first three-touchdown performance of the season and his second-highest rushing total. Up next is a Week 15 matchup against the Bucs, who Newton was unable to play against back in Week 1 because of a rib injury.

he can't go through his reads :cry