23 year old kawhi leonard will average 28mpg this year...

[apalisoc_9]

Hope he demands a trade...

[DesignatedT]

Ok. Now stop making threads. You're an idiot.

[Uriel]

Something tells me apolisoc_9 is really Kawhi's agent Brian Eflus.......

[apalisoc_9]

Something tells me apolisoc_9 is really Kawhi's agent Brian Eflus.......

If i was his agent, I would tell him to request a trade after contract..no point playing 28mpg a game when I'm in my early 20's.

[Biernutz]

If i was his agent, I would tell him to request a trade after contract..no point playing 28mpg a game when I'm in my early 20's.

If I was RC I would let you take a walk..........

[mkurts]

Hope he demands a trade...

Not going to get much by shooting 0 for 5

[rasuo214]

He did have the best +/- on the team and they could have used that rebounding.

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/fdKQSv2.png

#I'mComingHome2015 :downspin:

[wildchild]

http://i.imgur.com/fdKQSv2.png

#I'mComingHome2015 :downspin:

Well, I've been saying for a long time, if he doesn't play for the Spurs I can see him as part of the next Big 3 of the West. CP3, Blake and Kawhi...

A lot of Paul-Kawhi lobs!

Just imagine the crucial Kawhi steal on Wes playing for the Clips, they would have won the series.
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[apalisoc_9]

http://i.imgur.com/fdKQSv2.png

#I'mComingHome2015 :downspin:

Trade Kawhi!

[Texas_Ranger]

Wouldn't be surprised if Kawhi was not interested in staying in SA.

[T Park]

Wouldn't be surprised if Kawhi was not interested in staying in SA.


Tough shit he's staying

[T Park]

If i was his agent, I would tell him to request a trade after contract..no point playing 28mpg a game when I'm in my early 20's.



If I was your agent I'd tell you to walk into the middle of traffic with a bleach cocktail

[AFBlue]

Wouldn't be surprised if Kawhi was not interested in staying in SA.

Why exactly is that? He's been labeled the future face of the franchise by Pop, he just won a championship, he's a no-frills star in a no-frills town, he WILL get paid whatever he wants to stay....

Except for failing to come to terms on an extension agreement, which was not required and likely not the most beneficial deal for either side, I see no reason why the perception should be anything other than Kawhi coming back is a slam dunk.

And the minutes...all that really affects is career stats, which I don't see Kawhi particularly interested in.

[bklynspursfan]

Like i said in another thread, Kawhi hasn't played much all summer. How much do you expect Pop to play him in his first game back? He has to ease him in. It's not as if Kawhi looked great all game and made it a tough decision. His shots were short, he needs to get his conditioning back up. It's his first competitive game in several months. His minutes will go up

[AztecSpur]

KL's offense looked terrible most of the night, especially on that turn around fade away, he had no hang time and just threw up a brick. Look, he's been blinded for what, a month, he needs work, and sitting him at the end of a close game was the right thing to do.

[szkorhetz]

He was more than terrible. His only offensive weapon right now is the post-up? Are you kidding me? Who the fuck are you? Late carreer MJ or KB? What the fuck?
No athleticism, no speed, no lateral quickness, seemed fully uninterested...

[Raven]

http://i.imgur.com/fdKQSv2.png

#I'mComingHome2015 :downspin:

too bad you guys don't have the capspace to even sign austin daye :lol

[Dre_7]

Kawhi is restricted. He isn't going anywhere.

[Greg Oden]

Tough shit he's staying

sup T Pork been hittin the gym up?

[TXstbobcat]

Spurs will match any offer he gets next summer. He isn't going anywhere.

[KL2]

Well, I've been saying for a long time, if he doesn't play for the Spurs I can see him as part of the next Big 3 of the West. CP3, Blake and Kawhi...

A lot of Paul-Kawhi lobs!

Just imagine the crucial Kawhi steal on Wes playing for the Clips, they would have won the series.



Finally a PG that'd pass him the ball...

[spurraider21]

too bad you guys don't have the capspace to even sign austin daye :lol
:lmao

[Mikeanaro]

Have patience man I want to see Kawhi at his 100% too but as everything in the Spurs world...it takes time like pooping a very long doo doo but in the end the result is very rewarding.

[koriwhat]

Ok. Now stop making threads. You're an idiot.

Right! Fuck this pendejos threads!

[PublicOption]

SPuers need to stop fucking around with Kawhi. He needs big minutes and with Patty out...why not?????

[capek]

If i was his agent, I would tell him to request a trade after contract..no point playing 28mpg a game when I'm in my early 20's.

Moron. If you're playing for a championship every year, and playing a significant role in your team's championship ambitions, why the fuck would a player care about playing an extra 5-10 minutes a game?

[Ice009]

KL's offense looked terrible most of the night, especially on that turn around fade away, he had no hang time and just threw up a brick. Look, he's been blinded for what, a month, he needs work, and sitting him at the end of a close game was the right thing to do.

That's exactly how that turnaround jumper looked in the first preseason game against Alba Berlin. It seems like he was taught to shoot it flat. Maybe he doesn't have the hang-time to shoot that jumper properly? It seems like a move Jordan used to use, but did Jordan ever shoot it that flat?

[wildchild]

Moron. If you're playing for a championship every year, and playing a significant role in your team's championship ambitions, why the fuck would a player care about playing an extra 5-10 minutes a game?

Yeah...Why the fuck...but what's about the rare concept (commonly used by most of coaches in the world) that more playing time helps young players to improve their games.

Yeah...Why the fuck Leonard wants more minutes to develop?


“In the Finals I’m playing 35 minutes a game, so I’m on the floor more and able to score the ball more and get more rebounds,” he said. “So I’m going to have to get consistent minutes to play at a consistent level like that. I’ve been trying to (be a dominant player) since I’ve been here.

“It’s just in order to get me more involved in the offense, that’s what I go by. Like I said, if I’m going to get seven more minutes on the floor, that’s going to be important....”

[loveforthegame]

A young player wanting more minutes. It's unheard of.

[wildchild]

A young player wanting more minutes. It's unheard of.

But "why the fuck he wants"...oh wait... :lol

[mkurts]

What is the big deal ? A max extension player and finals MVP should be able to average 20 - 6 - 5 shooting 50% in 28 minutes

[wildchild]

What is the big deal ? A max extension player and finals MVP should be able to average 20 - 6 - 5 shooting 50% in 28 minutes

Sure...Tony (the top Spurs scorer last season) averaged 16.7 ppg 29mpg and Kawhi should 20 points in 28...

[Sean Cagney]

Sure...Tony (the top Spurs scorer last season) averaged 16.7 ppg 29mpg and Kawhi should 20 points in 28...

Is 16.7 PPG the least amount of points for the leading scorer on a title team ever? I would think it is?

[wildchild]

What is the big deal ? A max extension player and finals MVP should be able to average 20 - 6 - 5 shooting 50% in 28 minutes

All max young SF guys in the league played more than 36 minutes last seson, why Leonard should play 28?

Only George averaged 21 ppg as first offensive option, why Leonard should score the same in 8 less minutes as 3rd option?

PG 36mpg/21ppg

Thompson 35.4 mpg/18ppg

Parsons 37.6/16.6ppg

Hayward 36,4mpg/16,2ppg

Batum 36mpg/13ppg

[wildchild]

Is 16.7 PPG the least amount of points for the leading scorer on a title team ever? I would think it is?

Yes, the lowest leading scorer on any championship team in the Finals history.

[rasuo214]

I decided to check ESPN which goes back to the 99-00 season and now once has a player averaged 20 ppg with under 30 mins per game.

Duncan in his prime averaged close to 40 minutes per game and only scored in the low 20s (to put that in perspective if Kawhi's stats last season were projected for 40 mins he'd be a 17.6 PPG/ 8.5 rpg and Kawhi wasn't a top 2 option like Duncan, nor did he have plays ran for him)
Parker has only averaged more 20+ ppg twice in his entire career.
Manu has never done it.

So yea.

[Sean Cagney]

Yes, the lowest leading scorer on any championship team in the Finals history.

The old had to the the Pistons of 04 I believe? That was a balanced team as well and nobody got 20ppg on that team. That is an amazing stat for the Spurs, shows you their flat out balance! That is good.

[100%duncan]

What is the big deal ? A max extension player and finals MVP should be able to average 20 - 6 - 5 shooting 50% in 28 minutes

What a horrible take...

[szkorhetz]

All max young SF guys in the league played more than 36 minutes last seson, why Leonard should play 28?

Only George averaged 21 ppg as first offensive option, why Leonard should score the same in 8 less minutes as 3rd option?

PG 36mpg/21ppg

Thompson 35.4 mpg/18ppg

Parsons 37.6/16.6ppg

Hayward 36,4mpg/16,2ppg

Batum 36mpg/13ppg

There is a reason, we won the championship, TBH.

[hyhy]

I decided to check ESPN which goes back to the 99-00 season and now once has a player averaged 20 ppg with under 30 mins per game.

Duncan in his prime averaged close to 40 minutes per game and only scored in the low 20s (to put that in perspective if Kawhi's stats last season were projected for 40 mins he'd be a 17.6 PPG/ 8.5 rpg and Kawhi wasn't a top 2 option like Duncan, nor did he have plays ran for him)
Parker has only averaged more 20+ ppg twice in his entire career.
Manu has never done it.

So yea.

Thats because other than the spurs, if you are a 20ppg player, you will play more than 30mins per game.

[z0sa]

The old had to the the Pistons of 04 I believe? That was a balanced team as well and nobody got 20ppg on that team. That is an amazing stat for the Spurs, shows you their flat out balance! That is good.

Actually rip hamilton would average close or about 20 per game on those squads

I question Kawhi not playing big minutes. Could hurt his morale and ego a little bit. Still way too early in the season to tell, he didnt have a training camp after all.

[TheGreatYacht]

Leonard would average 14ppg, 7reb, 1apg if Pop let him play 35MPG. He's inconsistent, not a Max player tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Leonard would average 14ppg, 7reb, 1apg if Pop let him play 35MPG. He's inconsistent, not a Max player tbh
I forgot to add he's Injury prone

[capek]

Yeah...Why the fuck...but what's about the rare concept (commonly used by most of coaches in the world) that more playing time helps young players to improve their games.

Yeah...Why the fuck Leonard wants more minutes to develop?

When asked a question about his expectations for continuing his high level of play in the finals into this season, he responded with the comment you posted. He pointed out the minute discrepancy, gave the obvious answer, that with more minutes his numbers went up, not that he did anything different in the finals than he's been doing ("trying to" do) since he got here. For you to read into his comment a dissatisfaction with his role here, that might push him to want to leave SA, is like Homer Simpson trying to ride a bicycle over the Grand Canyon. It's only good for a laugh.

[SpursFan86]

I just wish he'd play at least 32ish minutes per game. I'm not asking for Pop to go into Thibodeau-mode and play Kawhi every night for 40 mpg, but c'mon...someone like Kawhi should be playing at LEAST 30 mpg.

I'm hoping Pop is just easing him in since he missed a lot of preseason + the first game. I'll be a bit annoyed if we have another year of Kawhi playing 28 or 29 mpg.

[BacktoBasics]

Have patience man I want to see Kawhi at his 100% too but as everything in the Spurs world...it takes time like pooping a very long doo doo but in the end the result is very rewarding.For a homophobic racist you sure do like to talk about the rewards of dooking.

[Mikeanaro]

Cant see you are in my ignore list you cuckold queen.

[Brunodf]

There is no reason to play Kawhi less than 35 min/game unless he is not 100%...

This is the last season before making the decision if the Spurs will pay him or not...

[Godbama]

28 year old kawhi leonard will average 23mpg

[r0drig0lac]

I just want him to play 36/38 mpg

[spurraider21]

which number will be bigger?

a) Good games from Kawhi

or

b) threads from OP about Kawhi/Parker?

i'm going with B

[wildchild]

The regular season is time to experiment, Pop makes a lot of lineups and rotation changes to find what works.

What's the big deal if he tries to play Leonard 35 minutes for at least 15 games?
If he doesn't improve or increase his numbers, we don't lose nothing and it'll be another regular season experiment. But we never know that if he never plays more minutes.


There is a reason, we won the championship, TBH.

Agree but I think they won the finals with Leonard playing 35 minutes.


For you to read into his comment a dissatisfaction with his role here, that might push him to want to leave SA, is like Homer Simpson trying to ride a bicycle over the Grand Canyon. It's only good for a laugh.
I lost. You asked "why the fuck would a player care about playing an extra 5-10 minutes a game?" and your question was answered quoting Leonard, he needs those extra minutes to play at more consistent level, improve his game and increase numbers.
Now I don't know what are you talking about...I'm not reading between the lines, I was talking about why young players want more playing time. That was all.

[mkurts]

Well why can't Leonard play more minutes ? Its not like he's 37, just play him 39 minutes a night like Brooks does with Durant.

[Bartleby]

Well why can't Leonard play more minutes ? Its not like he's 37, just play him 39 minutes a night like Brooks does with Durant.

Mentioning Durant and George (as wildchild does above) to make a case for Leonard getting more minutes kind of undermines your position.

[z0sa]

Mentioning Durant and George (as wildchild does above) to make a case for Leonard getting more minutes kind of undermines your position.

:lol true dat

[pookenstein]

We all expect the Spurs to blow out a lot of opponents. In these games Kawhi hopefully won't play 30+ minutes, which will lead to a drop in his mpg number.
Pop will play him big minutes in big games or when it's needed in close games. That's all that matters.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Typical asshole pop, tbh. He knows kawhi wants more mins (he should be playing more min) so he'll play his little mind games and play him less. It's pop's dick way of telling kawhi to “get over himself".

[apalisoc_9]

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[Skull-1]

Leonard would average 14ppg, 7reb, 1apg if Pop let him play 35MPG. He's inconsistent, not a Max player tbh


Not a max but should improve.

[spurs1990]

We need a running thread on Kawhi every game day for those of us who can't watch in terms of him showing max player potentialities.

[TheGreatYacht]

Not a max but should improve.
Ik lol, I was trolling KL2

[Kool Bob Love]

Hope he demands a trade...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVufV7iKfRw