Android L

[lefty]

anakha (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3144), resistanze, leemajors (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1150) or ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)

Can you answer this pls :


My 2012 N7 (4.4.4) is rooted , stock firmware and stock recovery

If I check "Survival Mode" in Super SU, can I get the OTA update?

Or should I unroot?


The "survival mode" method worked when I updated OTA to 4.4.4 (incremental update), but 5.0 apparently is bundled with a new bootloader so I don't know how a FULL update to everything would affect it



Thank you pls

[ElNono]

I have no idea as I don't root our Nexus, and until Android L starts being sent OTA, I don't think you'll know. From what I read, if they really are updating the bootloader, I would suspect it won't work.

[lefty]

From what I read, if they really are updating the bootloader, I would suspect it won't work.
That's what I'm thinking

So I'm guessing I will have to re-lock the bootloader and un-root


Or install a custom recovery and flash an Android L custom ROM

[Phillip]

AOSP lollipop roms should already be available for Nexus 5 and 7 from what I heard.

[resistanze]

anakha (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3144), resistanze, leemajors (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1150) or ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)

Can you answer this pls :


My 2012 N7 (4.4.4) is rooted , stock firmware and stock recovery

If I check "Survival Mode" in Super SU, can I get the OTA update?

Or should I unroot?


The "survival mode" method worked when I updated OTA to 4.4.4 (incremental update), but 5.0 apparently is bundled with a new bootloader so I don't know how a FULL update to everything would affect it



Thank you pls
Haven't done this in a while...I think you need to re-lock bootloader with stock...

[lefty]

AOSP lollipop roms should already be available for Nexus 5 and 7 from what I heard.


Haven't done this in a while...I think you need to re-lock bootloader with stock...
yeah

If I'm not too lazy :lol I will re-lock and unroot

Or just install a custom recovery and flash away :D
(Nexus device, so I ROMs should be available immediately)

[anakha]

anakha (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3144), resistanze, leemajors (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1150) or ElNono (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054)

Can you answer this pls :


My 2012 N7 (4.4.4) is rooted , stock firmware and stock recovery

If I check "Survival Mode" in Super SU, can I get the OTA update?

Or should I unroot?


The "survival mode" method worked when I updated OTA to 4.4.4 (incremental update), but 5.0 apparently is bundled with a new bootloader so I don't know how a FULL update to everything would affect it



Thank you pls

Actually, as per the creator of SuperSU, 5.0 makes it so that you'd have to flash a modified stock kernel to get root access, so regardless of what happens, you're going to lose root in upgrading to Lollipop.

Might as well unroot and ensure you get the OTA with no issues.

[anakha]

AOSP lollipop roms should already be available for Nexus 5 and 7 from what I heard.

Not yet - Google held up the source code because there seems to be a WiFI wakelock bug in the current version of 5.0.

[scanry]

When can we update our Nexus 5 to lolipop tbh? A lot of crashes as of late on my N5. Does anyone else experience constant crashes with LA Times? That app is such a wreck.

[scanry]

BTW i hope Google fixes the battery drainage on Nexus 5 soon.

[lefty]

Lollipop should be released on November 12

[lefty]

Actually, as per the creator of SuperSU, 5.0 makes it so that you'd have to flash a modified stock kernel to get root access, so regardless of what happens, you're going to lose root in upgrading to Lollipop.

Might as well unroot and ensure you get the OTA with no issues.
Yeah I will re-lock the bootloader and unroot

[Phillip]

Not yet - Google held up the source code because there seems to be a WiFI wakelock bug in the current version of 5.0.

Um, incorrect.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development

There was a variety of ROMs already released yesterday.

[Phillip]

Yeah I will re-lock the bootloader and unroot

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/orig-development

Roms already out for lollipop. This is the thread for the 2012 Nexus, which I believe is what you said you have.

[lefty]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/orig-development

Roms already out for lollipop. This is the thread for the 2012 Nexus, which I believe is what you said you have.
thanks bro

[anakha]

Um, incorrect.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development

There was a variety of ROMs already released yesterday.

Yeah, just double-checked and the source code was released already. Good catch.

[benefactor]

Will get it for my G3 this week.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/8/7179867/lg-g3-android-lollipop-upgrade-release-date

[lefty]

Will get it for my G3 this week.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/8/7179867/lg-g3-android-lollipop-upgrade-release-date
This week in Poland

[lefty]

Official Lollipop preview on the S4
(they also ported the S5 UI):

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/11/07/exclusive-preview-android-5-0-lollipop-on-samsung-galaxy-s4-new-touchwiz-ui-on-board/

[Libri]

I hope the G2 gets it.

[benefactor]

I hope the G2 gets it.
Read an article yesterday that said it would after they sent it out to the G3's first.

[Libri]

Read an article yesterday that said it would after they sent it out to the G3's first.

:tu

[lefty]

:lol Moto G is the 1st device to get OTA update
:lol Nexus

As for the LG G3 it's in Poland this week, not sure about North America/carriers

[Venti Quattro]

http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/12/7203161/android-5-0-lollipop-review

[lefty]

Gonna check if my Nexus 7 got the update

Factory image got leaked yesterday, so it should be anytime soon

[Venti Quattro]

Lollipop's apparently going to be rolled out to the GN4 before Christmas.

I hope Samsung didn't deviate from stock so much because stock Android L looks so beautiful. :cry

[lefty]

Lollipop's apparently going to be rolled out to the GN4 before Christmas.

I hope Samsung didn't deviate from stock so much because stock Android L looks so beautiful :cry

Ugh so much white

S4 and S5 on Lollipop (previews of official future releases)

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-lollipop-comparison-565873/
http://www.androidcentral.com/lollipop-galaxy-s5-leaks-yet-again-touchwiz-gets-more-material

[lefty]

Success!

Couldnt wait, so I flashed the leaked official factory img


Running Lollipop baby

Yay , a free movie came with the update :D (Gravity)

[ElNono]

http://stech4.firstpost.com/tech2images/640x359/proportional/jpeg/2014/06/google_android_l-624x351.jpg

[lefty]

:lol

[lefty]

Success!

Couldnt wait, so I flashed the leaked official factory img


Running Lollipop baby

Yay , a free movie came with the update :D (Gravity)
Forgot to how take screenshots lulz so I took shitty pictures

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2Rtl5IIEAEzV40.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2RtuBECEAA4St6.jpg

[anakha]

lefty screenshot fail :lol

And why is rotation locked on that thing?

[lefty]

It's not a screensht and rotation is not locked

Took a pic with my phone in portrait

[Cry Havoc]

Forgot to how take screenshots lulz so I took shitty pictures

Did you also forget that google exists?

[lefty]

Did you also forget that google exists?
what is google

[anakha]

what is google

Is Google a banned website in Algeria? :lol

[lefty]

Is Google a banned website in Algeria? :lol

:lol no website is banned
:lol but democracy is

[benefactor]

Just got my notification. About to start updating.:tu

[lefty]

Just got my notification. About to start updating.:tu
:lol I didnt wait on November 12

:lol Flashed the factory image right away

[resistanze]

:lol I didnt wait on November 12

:lol Flashed the factory image right away

Pretty sure he has a G3 tbh. Which is impressive by how quickly they updated.

[leemajors]

:lol I didnt wait on November 12

:lol Flashed the factory image right away

how slow is it on that nexus 7?

[lefty]

Pretty sure he has a G3 tbh. Which is impressive by how quickly they updated.

That's right

But apprently visually it's not very close to Lolliopop

The S4 and S5 previews of Lollipop (Touchwiz) respect the L guidelines


how slow is it on that nexus 7?

Omg KK was starting to lag badly (My 2012 N7 was rooted, but everything stock, no performance tweak etc)


It's much much better now; once in a while, I do get a little lag here and there, but that's normal since the device has 1 gig of RAM

Battery life has improved as well
I havent checked if it charges super fast though

[leemajors]

That's right

But apprently visually it's not very close to Lolliopop

The S4 and S5 previews of Lollipop (Touchwiz) respect the L guidelines



Omg KK was starting to lag badly (My 2012 N7 was rooted, but everything stock, no performance tweak etc)


It's much much better now; once in a while, I do get a little lag here and there, but that's normal since the device has 1 gig of RAM

Battery life has improved as well
I havent checked if it charges super fast though

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/11/lollipop-on-the-2012-nexus-7-not-great-but-not-much-worse/

[lefty]

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/11/lollipop-on-the-2012-nexus-7-not-great-but-not-much-worse/
In my case it's better because I did a clean install
(Mine is the 32 gb if that makes a difference)

Those took the OTA dont see a real improvement

[leemajors]

In my case it's better because I did a clean install

Those took the OTA dont see a real improvement

:tu

[anakha]

Got the update today.

:cry it's so beautiful :cry /Venti

[lefty]

Got the update today.

:cry it's so beautiful :cry /Venti

:cry det multitasking carousel
:cry i keep playing with it IDK why

[lefty]

Just realized that the stock Lollipop Google keyboard is themable

[Libri]

I got the update for Nexus 7! :downspin:

[ElNono]

Never got the update here... Nexus 7 2013 :td

[lefty]

Never got the update here... Nexus 7 2013 :td
yeah it's a gradual release

Now be a man and flash the factory image

[ElNono]

yeah it's a gradual release

Now be a man and flash the factory image

I thought about it. I just don't care that much. But if it takes another two weeks, I might have to.

[lefty]

I thought about it. I just don't care that much. But if it takes another two weeks, I might have to.
Make sure you flash the factory image and not the OTA file

It will wipe your device clean , but fresh install is better

People who took the OTA are reporting slower performance etc; I did a clean install and it's been better (so far ....)

[ElNono]

Make sure you flash the factory image and not the OTA file

It will wipe your device clean , but fresh install is better

People who took the OTA are reporting slower performance etc; I did a clean install and it's been better (so far ....)

I don't want to trash the whole thing. That's why it's called an update... indian software, smh

[lefty]

I don't want to trash the whole thing. That's why it's called an update... indian software, smh
come on a wiping wont kill ya

But yeah Nexus fanboys say "we get updates first lulz !!!!! fuck HTC and Samsung lulz! we are hipsters wearing Movember mustaches "


Well you got your update alright, but it's buggy as hell


OEMs and carriers do a lot fo testing before releasing the OS updates, that's why it takes longer

[ElNono]

OEMs and carriers do a lot fo testing before releasing the OS updates, that's why it takes longer

It's a Google Nexus 7... there's no OEM or Carrier... this is the effing official Google tablet :lol

[lefty]

It's a Google Nexus 7... there's no OEM or Carrier... this is the effing official Google tablet :lol
No you got me wrong lol

Im not talking about how long its taking right now on Nexuses, but the fact that OEMs update their devices months after the Nexuses

[anakha]

OEMs and carriers spend a shit ton of time shoving their bloatware on the OS updates, that's why it takes longer

FTFY

And even then, it can come out a buggy piece of shit still.

[ElNono]

No you got me wrong lol

Im not talking about how long its taking right now on Nexuses, but the fact that OEMs update their devices months after the Nexuses

:cry I feel left out

[lefty]

FTFY

And even then, it can come out a buggy piece of shit still.

Of course it's not always smooth

But holy shit, those who took the OTA update on the 2013 N7 are reporting WIFI issues and video playback fail

Now that's very bad :lol

Never had those issues when getting OTA updates on HTC and Samsung devices; and I'm ok with the bloatware tbh, I like the extra features

And stock Android is so basic that users end up downloading a lot of apps. resulting in bloat anyway


:cry I feel left out

:cry I know the feeling

[Drachen]

Just got it on my nexus, I like it so far.

[leemajors]

Drachen sighting wow!

[resistanze]

Of course it's not always smooth

But holy shit, those who took the OTA update on the 2013 N7 are reporting WIFI issues and video playback fail

Now that's very bad :lol

Never had those issues when getting OTA updates on HTC and Samsung devices; and I'm ok with the bloatware tbh, I like the extra features

And stock Android is so basic that users end up downloading a lot of apps. resulting in bloat anyway



:cry I know the feeling

No problems here with 2013 N7. Then again I flashed the factory image as I came from a custom ROM

[lefty]

No problems here with 2013 N7. Then again I flashed the factory image as I came from a custom ROM
Yup factory image here as well. Non issue

[Venti Quattro]

Do the animations lag in other stock devices? This has been pakitech's biggest gripe about the Nexus 6, aside from the pink screen when you set the Nexus 6 brightness to the absolute lowest.

[lefty]

Do the animations lag in other stock devices? This has been pakitech's biggest gripe about the Nexus 6, aside from the pink screen when you set the Nexus 6 brightness to the absolute lowest.

Once in a while on my 2012 N7 but nothing annoying

On more powerful devices a software patch will fix it

[Cry Havoc]

Got the OTA for my Nexus 5 today. It's fantastic so far.

[Venti Quattro]

Got the OTA for my Nexus 5 today. It's fantastic so far.

Post screencaps

[anakha]

Post screencaps

http://i.imgur.com/EbBSjnq.jpg

:bobo

[Venti Quattro]

http://i.imgur.com/EbBSjnq.jpg

:bobo

Looks good... I got that carousel out of the box with the Note 4. Pretty happy about it. I didn't want to long-press the home button again to bring up the task manager.

[lefty]

Looks good... I got that carousel out of the box with the Note 4. Pretty happy about it. I didn't want to long-press the home button again to bring up the task manager.
:lol Google taking features from OEM's
:lol Nexus fan boys saying Stock Andorid is better, yet they geek out when Google add the OEM features

[Phillip]

:lol Google taking features from OEM's
:lol Nexus fan boys saying Stock Andorid is better, yet they geek out when Google add the OEM features

pretty much the worst analysis I've seen

[lefty]

pretty much the worst analysis I've seen
not an analysis

Just troof bombs

[resistanze]

:lol lefty still championing that TouchWiz tbh

[lefty]

:lol lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) still championing that TouchWiz tbh
Not TW in particular tbh

[Phillip]

Just troof bombs

lies told on november 24, 2014

[resistanze]

running CM12 Lollipop on my Galaxy S5, pretty good so far. Even fixed the retarded silent mode on stock Lollipop

[lefty]

running CM12 Lollipop on my Galaxy S5, pretty good so far. Even fixed the retarded silent mode on stock Lollipop
Criminal.

Turn your S5 over to the authorities and go buy a Moto G

[anakha]

And what's wrong with the Moto G? :nope

Watch it or I'll go Algerian on your ass. :lol :toast

[resistanze]

Criminal.

Turn your S5 over to the authorities and go buy a Moto G

I didn't buy my S5 for TurdWiz, LOL. Fast CPU, great screen, transferred my microSD from my S4.

When Samsung stops making everything light clue with stupid bubble sounds, then I'll give them a shot with the UI. lol @ their ROM bring like 3GB.

[lefty]

I didn't buy my S5 for TurdWiz, LOL. Fast CPU, great screen, transferred my microSD from my S4.

When Samsung stops making everything light clue with stupid bubble sounds, then I'll give them a shot with the UI. lol @ their ROM bring like 3GB.

Its not like Stock Lollipop takes advantage of the S5 CPU .

As for the bubble sound I turned it off tbh.


Did you get the phone - although you don't deserve it - in black or white ?

[resistanze]

Its not like Stock Lollipop takes advantage of the S5 CPU .

As for the bubble sound I turned it off tbh.


Did you get the phone - although you don't deserve it - in black or white ?

:lol, in black, had my S4 in white and decided on a change. It looks greyish-black tbh

And lollipop's been coded with ART form the ground up, CPU is needed for all that material design shit

[lefty]

:lol, in black, had my S4 in white and decided on a change. It looks greyish-black tbh

And lollipop's been coded with ART form the ground up, CPU is needed for all that material design shit
ah ok

[leemajors]

is it that same fucking bubble sound they had on their flip phones?

[lefty]

is it that same fucking bubble sound they had on their flip phones?
in TruSurround tbh

[ElNono]

:lol still no update
:lol google
:lol forever alone

[lefty]

:lol still no update
:lol google
:lol forever alone
:lmao Moto X phone and NIVIDIA Shield tablet got OTA Lollipop before any Nexus device

:lol LG G3 in some countries got OTA Lollipop as well

[scanry]

Got my Nexus 5 a week ago. Not as good as alpha's OS but still better than poorsung's touchwizz. I'm gonna have to use this for another year before i switch to Iphone 7 tbh.

[Cry Havoc]

Deleted Facebook + Messenger from my phone today... drastically and instantly improved battery life. Going on 18 hours now and still at ~35%, with a few hours of on-screen time.

[lefty]

Deleted Facebook + Messenger from my phone today... drastically and instantly improved battery life. Going on 18 hours now and still at ~35%, with a few hours of on-screen time.

Yeah I read that FB was a Lollipop killer

[Venti Quattro]

Yeah I read that FB was a Lollipop killer

It's also a self-esteem and a relationship killer

[lefty]

It's also a self-esteem and a relationship killer
:lol true tbh

[Libri]

Had major lagging issues after the OTA update on my Nexus 7 (2012). :bang I was thinking of buying another tablet. I cleared the cache memory and it's running like new. :downspin::hat

[scanry]

Is anyone else experiencing longer than before charge time? It would take me an hour or two to charge my Nexus 5 in full (from about 20%), but after the update, it's taking me atleast 4-5 hrs for a full charge.

[Phillip]

:cry Its not like Stock:cry Lollipop takes:cry advantage of th:crye S5 CPU :cry:cry:cry.

D:cryid you get the phone - although you don't deserve:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry it - in black or white ?

[Phillip]

is it that same fucking bubble sound they had on their flip phones?

much worse

[lefty]

much worse
bloop

[lefty]

Google Apps to have dark theme options?


http://phandroid.com/2014/12/03/google-news-weather-gains-dark-theme-option-in-latest-update-will-more-google-apps-follow-suit/

[resistanze]

lefty - Shitwiz lollipop out for S5!

[lefty]

lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) - Shitwiz lollipop out for S5!
cool I have the S4

[resistanze]

cool I have the S4

I know - but it can't be too long tbh

[lefty]

I know - but it can't be too long tbh
Expected around January TBH

Regarding the S5, the rollout is in Asia or the international version, so who knows when the NA carriers roll it out

[The Gemini Method]

Refty got that hottie in the Broncos gear...style looks familiar.

[Venti Quattro]

Expected around January TBH

Samsung says it's in early 2015, so I'm expecting them to roll it out on December 2015.

[lefty]

Refty got that hottie in the Broncos gear...style looks familiar.

I think yhe the chick the same too

[ElNono]

:lol still no update
:lol buying google to get the latest updates
:lol not getting the latest updates
:lol google
:lol me

[lefty]

:lol still no update
:lol buying google to get the latest updates
:lol not getting the latest updates
:lol google
:lol me
:lol cucked by Moto and LG
:lol Cuckle

Flash the factory image , son

[ElNono]

:lol cucked by Moto and LG
:lol Cuckle

Flash the factory image , son

Would that wipe the tablet?

[lefty]

Would that wipe the tablet?
Of course

ButI had to do some cleaning on mine anyway so it was no big deal

[ElNono]

Is this still really happening in 2014??? I thought the whole wipe and start over died with Windows 95... smh

I'll keep waiting...

[Venti Quattro]

Is this still really happening in 2014??? I thought the whole wipe and start over died with Windows 95... smh

Think about it as ethnic cleansing

[lefty]

Is this still really happening in 2014??? I thought the whole wipe and start over died with Windows 95... smh

I'll keep waiting...

U can always back up stuff tbh. .

[ElNono]

U can always back up stuff tbh. .

What do you backup the whole system with, tbh?

[lefty]

What do you backup the whole system with, tbh?

Back when I rooted the HTC, I used something but don't remember what exactly

[ElNono]

Nothing comes with the system to do that? I want to keep it as stock as possible, so no root.

[lefty]

Dont flash a ROM flash the factory

Ny n7 is unrooted

[ElNono]

Dont flash a ROM flash the factory

Ny n7 is unrooted

but that will still wipe it, right?

[lefty]

but that will still wipe it, right?

Well it's a gamble

[resistanze]

Flashing the recovery shouldn't wipe the tablet. But unless there's a stock image in zip format I'm not sue how you can flash it to stock.

I'd just wait. Bizarre it's taking so long.

[lefty]

What Stock Android Luva said

[Phillip]

stock lollipop > all other phone OS ever made tbqmfh

[lefty]

Sure

[Phillip]

:lol it's funny how lefty thinks his opinion should be taken seriously, after all the apple fanboyism he showed for years, never shutting the hell up about how iOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> android, and the moment he got an android, he suddenly says android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iOS. And now you have the nerve to claim TW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other android

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a9/a95c45d397327eed6622e75a39b8a6337429e92169af920f0f 7f10bd72066da0.jpg

[lefty]

Hey I said "sure"


What's wrong with that ?


:lol why are you so sensitive

[Libri]

Had major lagging issues after the OTA update on my Nexus 7 (2012). :bang I was thinking of buying another tablet. I cleared the cache memory and it's running like new. :downspin::hat

Ok, clearing the cash memory worked for a few days and then became slower than a turtle. :lmao Did a factory reset and it's faster than ever. Let's see if this one lasts. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

The only issue I've had with Lollipop thus far is at times I get a hanging when first booting up my GPS for turn by turn. It can take 5 minutes for the phone to figure out where I am. Frustrating as that is, the rest of the OS seems to be awesome.

[ElNono]

Finally got the 5.0.1 update today :lol

[lefty]

:lol

[Venti Quattro]

Samshit toned down the Samshit apps in 4.4.4. They removed useless apps like Chaton (seriously, who the fuck uses this app?) If stock Android develops stylus capabilities like Samshit, then buying a huge-ass Nexus device would make sense. But that wouldn't be possible right now; Samshit probably has all the stylus patents backed in their corner. Google would have to think outside the box, like REALLY outside of the box.

[lefty]

So Lollipop has rolled out in Poland on the S5, here is a video

Samsung Galaxy S5 Official Android 5.0 Lollipop -…: http://youtu.be/WOcWO_QHsp4

[lefty]

Verizon Galaxy S5 Android 5.0 Lollipop update released

That's right, Verizon before the other carriers :lol
Venti Quattro

[Venti Quattro]

Verizon Galaxy S5 Android 5.0 Lollipop update released

That's right, Verizon before the other carriers :lol
Venti Quattro

:lol Verizon

[lefty]

:lol Verizon
yrs but they released it before any other carrier in NA :lol

[lefty]

Venti Quattro (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17094)

Lollipoop OTA is out, downloading it right now on my S5


:lol Purse 4

http://i.imgur.com/QV3dqj3.png


http://i.imgur.com/SCRqgvk.png

http://i.imgur.com/Po2JpnY.png

[benefactor]

I haven't noticed too much difference. It's faster. The card file style feature is nice instead of just tiling when hitting the bottom right button is pretty cool.