Enrique..

[Malik Hairston]

7 turnovers:wow:wow

Can't wait until the best PG on the Spurs roster returns, tbh..long wait until February..

[ElNono]

January, tbh

[lefty]

7 turnovers:wow:wow

Can't wait until the best PG on the Spurs roster returns, tbh..long wait until February..
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[KL2]

I miss Mills.

[BatManu20]

Yea he had a pretty terrible game.

[MI21]

He keeps leaving his feet to pass which commentators love to harp on about but at this level of basketball it isn't exactly uncommon.

It usually doesn't matter in the Spurs system - but guys aren't in there usual spots for whatever reason and he keeps throwing the ball to the middle of nowhere :lol

[gilmor2002]

Let's trade him..

[benstanfield]

Might as well not play him in the 4th quarter based on these last two games. Manu-Green-Kawhi-Boris-Duncan should close games until TP decides to care.

[apalisoc_9]

7 turnovers:wow:wow

Can't wait until the best PG on the Spurs roster returns, tbh..long wait until February..

I made a similar thread..

His turnovers are mostly due to forcing the PnR with Duncan...

It also slows the team down. Tony and Timmy just trying to prove to some 23 year old guy that it is still there team.

[BanditHiro]

he will be back by December

[Ditty]

Parker is just coasting

[cjw]

As I said in the other thread, more assists (7) than the Cavs have tonight (6) with 17 seconds to go. Irving has zero. They'll continue going to Lebron iso so probably going to stay that way.

[HI-FI]

by midseason he'll be better, and by playoffs he'll be regressing again.

[Darius McCrary]

Jesus Christ this thread is shit, lock this Canadian crap

[TheGreatYacht]

Jesus Christ this thread is shit, lock this Canadian crap

[FlAVaK]

I made a similar thread..

Now that´s an understatement.

[Cry Havoc]

Regular season prejaculation thread

[FireMicoHalili]

why do we call him Enrique again?

[AussieFanKurt]

my nigga patty will be the saviour tbh

[Johnny RIngo]

He's declining which is not too surprising considering his playing style. Started last season and it seems to be carrying over into this season. Not too upset about it since this team did well in the playoffs last year with TP playing like crap. We don't need heroball Parker to win games anymore. Still, it would have been nice to see Parker make a comeback after the trainwreck last year and have another 2013 type season. Guess it's not happening.

[Malik Hairston]

He's declining which is not too surprising considering his playing style. Started last season and it seems to be carrying over into this season. Not too upset about it since this team did well in the playoffs last year with TP playing like crap. We don't need heroball Parker to win games anymore. Still, it would have been nice to see Parker make a comeback after the trainwreck last year and have another 2013 type season. Guess it's not happening.

The glimmer of hope is that his 3-point shot looks much improved, tbh..it would negate some of the aging/miles and could potentially reinvent his game..

Spurs just need him to hold down the fort until Patty returns..

[Robz4000]

Not sure what you guys are talking about, he definitely looks better physically compared to last year. The issue is rust and decision making which will improve as the season gets further underway. Then again his body could go to shit as the season wears on as well, so who knows?

[Johnny RIngo]

The glimmer of hope is that his 3-point shot looks much improved, tbh..it would negate some of the aging/miles and could potentially reinvent his game..

Spurs just need him to hold down the fort until Patty returns..

The 3 point shooting has definitely been impressive thus far but I'm not sure TP can keep that up over an entire season. If he does, it makes the Spurs very dangerous with all options we have behind the arc. Hopefully, the rest of his game picks up.

[Diego20]

Maybe this is the reason why TP doesn't average as many assists as other PGs, because he would have more turnovers per game..

[boutons_deux]

The glimmer of hope is that his 3-point shot looks much improved, tbh..it would negate some of the aging/miles and could potentially reinvent his game..

Spurs just need him to hold down the fort until Patty returns..

Only 3 games, but Tony's shooting 56% FG, nearly 60% at ATT.

86%! for 3Gs

[Brazil]

Parker is a bit rusty, that's all

He usually plays ball during the off season, he needs a bit of time to shake the rust. Dat game was like 5 days after first two, people are looking too much into 3 games.

He had a pretty bad game TOs wise, shit happens tbh

He shoots the ball well, his speed is there, Spurs are 2-1... not sure what's the big deal

[The Reckoning]

trade parker for mills tbh

[jag]

I made a similar thread..

His turnovers are mostly due to forcing the PnR with Duncan...

It also slows the team down. Tony and Timmy just trying to prove to some 23 year old guy that it is still there team.

Harlem talking to himself again with his troll.

[ElNono]

Parker is a bit rusty, that's all

He usually plays ball during the off season, he needs a bit of time to shake the rust. Dat game was like 5 days after first two, people are looking too much into 3 games.

Agree on the 5 days of rest... I think that affects the vets more than anybody... I thought Gino looked rusty too.

[Ditty]

November :wakeup

[EVAY]

why do we call him Enrique again?

Assuming this is not a rhetorical question, some wags on this forum started calling Tony that because they believe that he plays 'hero' ball (and apparently that is the name of character who is a hero somewhere). Hero ball generally refers to someone who jacks up and misses shots continually, trying to take over every game by himself in order to be 'the hero' of the game. In other words, volume shooters who don't have very good shooting percentages. The fact that the moniker is misapplied to Parker has absolutely zero bearing on any discussion in this forum.

One may reasonably ask, since Tony took only twelve shots total last night, which was the same number as did Tim Duncan and only two more than Kawhi Leonard did and Boris Diaw did, and that he made a higher percentage of his shots than Duncan, Leonard and/or Kawhi did, why that moniker is being used in THIS thread. But the answer is that for the Parker haters on this forum, nothing matters but the opportunity to trash TP.

And TP gave plenty of ammunition to trash him after last night's game. He had a wretched game from the standpoint of turnovers...wayyyyyy more than is characteristic of him, but it happened and he should be called to account for them. Whether or not you call him Enrique as you are calling him to account is another issue.

It is easy to criticize Parker's play last night from a turnover standpoint, but some of the same folks who accuse him of hero-baling are bitching in this thread about him 'disappearing'
in the fourth quarter. So if he hadn't 'disappeared' ( he took no or few shots in the quarter) he would be accused of hero-balling.

Since all he did was have a terrible night with 7 turnovers while making a higher percentage of his shots than anyone who shot more than twice (Splitter), shared the highest scoring total for the team with Duncan, handed out 7 assists and played more minutes than anyone else on the team, he is predictably pilloried by the likes of Hairston, Lefty, Apilosic, etc. etc.

That is why he is called Enrique. Because if they didn't call him that, they would call him something much worse, because their hatred has nothing to do with basketball or teamwork and everything to do with something else.

[Splits]

koJlIGDImiU

[ElNono]

:lol no offense, EVAY, you're a good guy, tbh... but the Enrique (just like the Turnobili) moniker is just a little ribbing at a player that everyone but lefty appreciates.

Those kind of long-winded posts just exacerbate the trolling, IMO...

[EVAY]

^^^^just my thing, E-N. I don't call Manu turnobili and I don't call Parker enrique.

[ElNono]

^^^^just my thing, E-N. I don't call Manu turnobili and I don't call Parker enrique.

:tu

[FireMicoHalili]

Assuming this is not a rhetorical question, some wags on this forum started calling Tony that because they believe that he plays 'hero' ball (and apparently that is the name of character who is a hero somewhere). Hero ball generally refers to someone who jacks up and misses shots continually, trying to take over every game by himself in order to be 'the hero' of the game. In other words, volume shooters who don't have very good shooting percentages. The fact that the moniker is misapplied to Parker has absolutely zero bearing on any discussion in this forum.

One may reasonably ask, since Tony took only twelve shots total last night, which was the same number as did Tim Duncan and only two more than Kawhi Leonard did and Boris Diaw did, and that he made a higher percentage of his shots than Duncan, Leonard and/or Kawhi did, why that moniker is being used in THIS thread. But the answer is that for the Parker haters on this forum, nothing matters but the opportunity to trash TP.

And TP gave plenty of ammunition to trash him after last night's game. He had a wretched game from the standpoint of turnovers...wayyyyyy more than is characteristic of him, but it happened and he should be called to account for them. Whether or not you call him Enrique as you are calling him to account is another issue.

It is easy to criticize Parker's play last night from a turnover standpoint, but some of the same folks who accuse him of hero-baling are bitching in this thread about him 'disappearing'
in the fourth quarter. So if he hadn't 'disappeared' ( he took no or few shots in the quarter) he would be accused of hero-balling.

Since all he did was have a terrible night with 7 turnovers while making a higher percentage of his shots than anyone who shot more than twice (Splitter), shared the highest scoring total for the team with Duncan, handed out 7 assists and played more minutes than anyone else on the team, he is predictably pilloried by the likes of Hairston, Lefty, Apilosic, etc. etc.

That is why he is called Enrique. Because if they didn't call him that, they would call him something much worse, because their hatred has nothing to do with basketball or teamwork and everything to do with something else.
thanks mate!

[hater]

and yet it wasn't in a game 6 Finals game....

[Splits]

:lol no offense, EVAY (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=4443), you're a good lady, tbh... but the Enrique (just like the Turnobili) moniker is just a little ribbing at a player that everyone but lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) appreciates.

Those kind of long-winded posts just exacerbate the trolling, IMO...

fify

[KL2]

Assuming this is not a rhetorical question, some wags on this forum started calling Tony that because they believe that he plays 'hero' ball (and apparently that is the name of character who is a hero somewhere). Hero ball generally refers to someone who jacks up and misses shots continually, trying to take over every game by himself in order to be 'the hero' of the game. In other words, volume shooters who don't have very good shooting percentages. The fact that the moniker is misapplied to Parker has absolutely zero bearing on any discussion in this forum.

One may reasonably ask, since Tony took only twelve shots total last night, which was the same number as did Tim Duncan and only two more than Kawhi Leonard did and Boris Diaw did, and that he made a higher percentage of his shots than Duncan, Leonard and/or Kawhi did, why that moniker is being used in THIS thread. But the answer is that for the Parker haters on this forum, nothing matters but the opportunity to trash TP.

And TP gave plenty of ammunition to trash him after last night's game. He had a wretched game from the standpoint of turnovers...wayyyyyy more than is characteristic of him, but it happened and he should be called to account for them. Whether or not you call him Enrique as you are calling him to account is another issue.

It is easy to criticize Parker's play last night from a turnover standpoint, but some of the same folks who accuse him of hero-baling are bitching in this thread about him 'disappearing'
in the fourth quarter. So if he hadn't 'disappeared' ( he took no or few shots in the quarter) he would be accused of hero-balling.

Since all he did was have a terrible night with 7 turnovers while making a higher percentage of his shots than anyone who shot more than twice (Splitter), shared the highest scoring total for the team with Duncan, handed out 7 assists and played more minutes than anyone else on the team, he is predictably pilloried by the likes of Hairston, Lefty, Apilosic, etc. etc.

That is why he is called Enrique. Because if they didn't call him that, they would call him something much worse, because their hatred has nothing to do with basketball or teamwork and everything to do with something else.


It's not so much him jacking up shots, it's more of him killing the ball movement and ignoring his teammates especially his over dribbling, it kills the offense. Always good for RS games and non elite defenses in the playoffs, that's what most Spurs fans don't realize, Spurs have only won a championship once with TP hero balling, against Boobie Gibson (Kobe-esque performance of picking on someone inferior just to win FMVP tbh). Spurs do need his scoring, but they need him more as a facilitator, it took him having a severely sprained ankle for that to happen last year.

'07 The false MVP
'08 WCF loss against the Lakers
'09 1st round and out
'10 2nd round and out
'11 1st round and out

'12-The Messiah is drafted, but too green, WCF
'13-Finals, Enrique gets outplayed by Chalolmers.
'14-The true MVP is crowned

[ElNono]

ugh :lol

[lefty]

Omg POS Enrique can't lead

[Johnny RIngo]

Net On/Off Numbers for the big three thus far:

+12.0 Duncan
+7.5 Manu
-11.1 Parker

Maybe we should call it a big two instead?

[Hemotivo]

oh snap!

[objective]

Hard to imagine Parker not being overpaid the last two years of his deal, he might be there next year

[lefty]

Hard to imagine Parker not being overpaid the last two years of his deal, he might be there next year

[Clipper Nation]

It's not so much him jacking up shots, it's more of him killing the ball movement and ignoring his teammates especially his over dribbling, it kills the offense. Always good for RS games and non elite defenses in the playoffs, that's what most Spurs fans don't realize, Spurs have only won a championship once with TP hero balling, against Boobie Gibson (Kobe-esque performance of picking on someone inferior just to win FMVP tbh). Spurs do need his scoring, but they need him more as a facilitator, it took him having a severely sprained ankle for that to happen last year.

'07 The false MVP
'08 WCF loss against the Lakers
'09 1st round and out
'10 2nd round and out
'11 1st round and out

'12-The Messiah is drafted, but too green, WCF
'13-Finals, Enrique gets outplayed by Chalolmers.
'14-The true MVP is crowned
^ Truth nukes ^

[Johnny RIngo]

Horrible start of the season for TP. The On/Off numbers are bad...like 2014-2015 Kobe levels of negative impact right now. Maybe Joseph should be the starting point guard for now:

+20.6 - Tiago
+16.5 - Timmy
+15.1 - Belinelli
+13.1 - Manu
+7.9 - Kawhi
+7.9 - Joseph
-1.0 - Baynes
-6.6 - Bonner
-8.5 - Boris
-20.1 - Errors
-22.0 - Green
-27.8 - Parker

In addition to Enrique, Green and Boris need to get their head out of their asses.

[baseline bum]

He keeps leaving his feet to pass which commentators love to harp on about but at this level of basketball it isn't exactly uncommon.

It usually doesn't matter in the Spurs system - but guys aren't in there usual spots for whatever reason and he keeps throwing the ball to the middle of nowhere :lol

Yeah, I know. Watching last year's Finals the Spurs constantly made passes from the air. Can't believe Van Gundy and Mark Jackson weren't having fits about it.

[Hoops Czar]

Net On/Off Numbers for the big three thus far:

+12.0 Duncan
+7.5 Manu
-11.1 Parker

Maybe we should call it a big two instead?

I thought it was the big 4?

[Robz4000]

Not sure what you guys are talking about, he definitely looks better physically compared to last year. The issue is rust and decision making which will improve as the season gets further underway. Then again his body could go to shit as the season wears on as well, so who knows?

God bless he's terrible right now (mentally). Too much heroball.

[Johnny RIngo]

I haven't seen TP play this terrible since the mid 2000s. He's regressed badly from 2013.

[TheGreatYacht]

Tonight at halftime: 22pts, 4ast, 9-12 shooting :lol

... Btw OP is a faggot.

[Malik Hairston]

Tonight at halftime: 22pts, 4ast, 9-12 shooting :lol

... Btw OP is a faggot.

Good 1st half in the 5th game of the season, hopefully he continues to play well in the 2nd half, I like seeing TP play well, obviously..

[ElNono]

Hopefully a turnaround point for him, tbh.... we all miss MVParker, IMO.

[ElNono]

Did he really have 22pts at the half? Only 6pts in the 2nd half?

[EVAY]

Did he really have 22pts at the half? Only 6pts in the 2nd half?

Not only were 22 of his points in the first half, so were 4 of his 5 turnovers for the game. Yes, in the second half he only took 6 shots - and only one of those was in the fourth. He made the only one he took in the fourth. He missed four and made one in the third. So his 6 point scoring for the second half was on two made baskets and two made free throws. When TP left in the third quarter, it was still a two point game, just as it had been at the end of the half. It was at that point that N.O. went on a run to increase their lead to ten by the end of the quarter. When TP came back in the fourth, he only took one shot, which he made, but none of the first squad made a dent in the 10 point lead that the Pels had built after Tony sat in the third.

[mkurts]

Tony playing dominant ball is fine, but only if he averages more than 30 ppg to offset the stagnancy he brings into the offense. I think Manu would be a better pg at this stage than Parker

[Johnny RIngo]

Tony playing dominant ball is fine, but only if he averages more than 30 ppg to offset the stagnancy he brings into the offense. I think Manu would be a better pg at this stage than Parker

He IS a better PG than Parker. One of the reasons we were so dominant in last year's playoffs was Manu ran the offense for large portions of each game. It's the regular season though. We don't need Manu breaking down before the playoffs so I'm ok with him having a more reduced role in order to save him for another post-season run.

[Pocho La Pantera]

Horrible start of the season for TP. The On/Off numbers are bad...like 2014-2015 Kobe levels of negative impact right now. Maybe Joseph should be the starting point guard for now:

+20.6 - Tiago
+16.5 - Timmy
+15.1 - Belinelli
+13.1 - Manu
+7.9 - Kawhi
+7.9 - Joseph
-1.0 - Baynes
-6.6 - Bonner
-8.5 - Boris
-20.1 - Errors
-22.0 - Green
-27.8 - Parker

In addition to Enrique, Green and Boris need to get their head out of their asses.
The first four didn't play against the Rockets, that explains the +-

[KL2]

What happened to Parker's defense? He played well offensively but was getting scored on like crazy by practically everyone as he was last year, without Green/Leonard defending PG's idk where this team would be. He was an elite defender a few years ago too, for like a year lol, still remember him holding Irving to like 0 points that one game. Even against big men he would do a great job at fronting them, holding his position the best he could, making shots difficult.

He's probably one of the worst defensive PG's in the entire NBA, really masked by the Spurs' defenders.

[ElNono]

Not only were 22 of his points in the first half, so were 4 of his 5 turnovers for the game. Yes, in the second half he only took 6 shots - and only one of those was in the fourth. He made the only one he took in the fourth. He missed four and made one in the third. So his 6 point scoring for the second half was on two made baskets and two made free throws. When TP left in the third quarter, it was still a two point game, just as it had been at the end of the half. It was at that point that N.O. went on a run to increase their lead to ten by the end of the quarter. When TP came back in the fourth, he only took one shot, which he made, but none of the first squad made a dent in the 10 point lead that the Pels had built after Tony sat in the third.

thanks