kawhi took 3 shots in the second half..touched the ball 6 times.

[apalisoc_9]

Continue this BS and they won't be seeing the finals....

[testies]

and thats when our lead blew open

[313]

Shot 75% doe

[Aztecfan03]

Continue this BS and they won't be seeing the finals....

Can you please just stop with all these different Kawhi threads. Just make one "Apalisoc's kawhi thoughts" thread or something.

[daslicer]

Shut up and just enjoy the win. Kawhi had a good game its amazing even when he plays well you are still crying about Parker hogging the ball.

[hyhy]

Where do u get these stats?

[TheGreatYacht]

You're the Jeff Ayres of threads

[wildchild]

I don't buy Pop saying "We've got to start giving him the ball. That's the plan", last game was an exception.

Like a bad meme would say, when you think Kawhi can get consistently 15/17 shots per game, then you realize the team isn't ready to let him takes the next step offensively.

Tonight, Tony 11-17 Manu 7-17 Leonard 7-11, if Kawhi is shooting efficiently or even better than his teammates, he never gets the same volume amount of shots of the other guys.

[BillMc]

Can you please just stop with all these different Kawhi threads. Just make one "Apalisoc's kawhi thoughts" thread or something.

+1

[apalisoc_9]

I don't buy Pop saying "We've got to start giving him the ball. That's the plan", last game was an exception.

Like a bad meme would say, when you think Kawhi can get consistently 15/17 shots per game, then you realize the team isn't ready to let him takes the next step offensively.

Tonight, Tony 11-17 Manu 7-17 Leonard 7-11, if Kawhi is shooting efficiently or even better than his teammates, he never gets the same volume amount of shots of the other guys.

Manu needs to stop thinking he's 26...jesus

[Arcadian]

And he still wreaked havoc. He's better playing off the ball than in isolation.

[koriwhat]

You're the Jeff Ayres of threads

:tu

[ElNono]

Manu needs to stop thinking he's 26...jesus

outside of a couple ill advices 3s, he was great tonight, tbh

[wildchild]

Manu needs to stop thinking he's 26...jesus
The Fountain of Youth, formerly known as Cali trip...Eventually, he'll be fine.

The problem of expectations is Pop saying one thing and doing another.
This is going to be a long, long season in -"our"- Kawhi's camp.

[apalisoc_9]

The Fountain of Youth, formerly known as Cali trip...Eventually, he'll be fine.

The problem of expectations is Pop saying one thing and doing another.
This is going to be a long, long season in -"our"- Kawhi's camp.

check the play where tony passes the ball to kawhi for the three in the fourth..he did that because he had no option..But before that, kawhi was screaming his lungs out to get the ball when curry was guarding him.

[Malik Hairston]

check the play where tony passes the ball to kawhi for the three in the fourth..he did that because he had no option..But before that, kawhi was screaming his lungs out to get the ball when curry was guarding him.

:lol I hadn't noticed that, tbh, good find..

[wildchild]

check the play where tony passes the ball to kawhi for the three in the fourth..he did that because he had no option..But before that, kawhi was screaming his lungs out to get the ball when curry was guarding him.


:lol I hadn't noticed that, tbh, good find..

http://i.imgur.com/jlTzQ4Il.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MW44k49l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NSLlQIBl.jpg

[Bambililos]

And Parker scored a lot of points. I'm surprised we didn't lose by your logic.

[T Park]

How anyone can have a beef with the offense in the second half down three of their top 10 players is beyond me.

[Brazil]

on a side note 1/3 of the passes received by Kawhi are coming from Parker, the second Kawhi feeder is Tim with 1/7 :lol


I hope anybody is using that pic to show Parker unwillingness to give the ball to Kawhi right ? if he had tried to pass the ball directly to kawhi that would be totally retarded as pass needs to cross all the floor and could be intercepted by 3 guys... Don't remember what happened on that action but out of the 4 guys, Kawhi is the last Parker should give the ball, safest choice is Manu then he could try to reset a P&R with Tim but certainly not throw the ball to Kawhi

[romain.star]

Continue this BS and they won't be seeing the finals....

Be honest: do you care about the Spurs seeing the finals?

[elege]

Continue this BS and they won't be seeing the finals....

You are really good at almost making me hate Kawhi. Quit being such a petty niggler, niggler.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

http://i.imgur.com/jlTzQ4Il.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MW44k49l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NSLlQIBl.jpg

Disgusting....

[hater]

Parker took over and the rest is history. let's move on....

[Kawhi]

We won, who gives a shit?

[lefty]

Enrique phaggot

[lefty]

http://i.imgur.com/jlTzQ4Il.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MW44k49l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NSLlQIBl.jpg
TROOF NUKES!

[ChumpDumper]

check the play where tony passes the ball to kawhi for the three in the fourth..he did that because he had no option..But before that, kawhi was screaming his lungs out to get the ball when curry was guarding him.Now you're just trolling.

[hyhy]

http://i.imgur.com/jlTzQ4Il.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MW44k49l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NSLlQIBl.jpg

I rather parker pass it to Diaw against barnes, than kawhi against curry

[Aztecfan03]

TROOF NUKES!
Truth nukes that he shouldn't have passed to kawhi in that situation.

[lefty]

TROOF NUKES!

[Solid D]

Now you're just trolling.

"Now"?

[Solid D]

Come on, now lefty. Shake yourself. Either apalisoc_9 is one of your aliases, or you've (once again) administered self-abasement.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

on a side note 1/3 of the passes received by Kawhi are coming from Parker, the second Kawhi feeder is Tim with 1/7 :lol


I hope anybody is using that pic to show Parker unwillingness to give the ball to Kawhi right ? if he had tried to pass the ball directly to kawhi that would be totally retarded as pass needs to cross all the floor and could be intercepted by 3 guys... Don't remember what happened on that action but out of the 4 guys, Kawhi is the last Parker should give the ball, safest choice is Manu then he could try to reset a P&R with Tim but certainly not throw the ball to Kawhi

Dont fall for these trolls, Tony is a team player, he has some selfish moments but good god, he isnt avoiding passing to Kawhi, there are things an all star NBA point guard knows and sees that we dont, he passes when its appropriate

[apalisoc_9]

Lol at people...

manu was asking for the ball so he can pass it to kawhi..He ended up going to the top and asking for a PnR and Kawhi was still demanding the ball..

Do people watch games here or what?

[capek]

such a shitty forum, ST, so filled with shitty posters.

[Mr Bones]

Classic thread: The Spurs go on the road and beat one of the best young teams in the league, and you're talking about what's wrong with them. You wanna know something else? Last year, in the championship clinching game 5 win, the Spurs were out-rebounded by the Heat!

[Solid D]

kawhi took 3 shots...touched the ball 6 times, in the first 4 minutes of the second half...and many, many more shots and touches after that

Fixed.

Watch the game.

[DarrinS]

I don't know why some fans get on the nuts of one specific player. I also don't understand why some fans are obsessed with hating a specific player -- especially if said player is a HOF player that was instrumental in Spurs' championships.

[Mel_13]

Do people watch games here or what?

In the game I watched last night, Kawhi took six shots in the second half.

[manufan10]

NVM, wrong game. :lmao

[Mr Bones]

http://i.imgur.com/jlTzQ4Il.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MW44k49l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NSLlQIBl.jpg

what exactly are the pictures supposed to prove? Kawhi's defender is right on top of him. Passing to him would be impossible here.

[RD2191]

such a shitty forum, ST, so filled with shitty posters.
Gtfo then, your great takes will be missed.:lol

[boutons_deux]

what exactly are the pictures supposed to prove? Kawhi's defender is right on top of him. Passing to him would be impossible here.

tp to mg, mg to kl, kl destroy via isolation on the little kid

[Brazil]

Lol at people...

manu was asking for the ball so he can pass it to kawhi..He ended up going to the top and asking for a PnR and Kawhi was still demanding the ball..

Do people watch games here or what?

so your point is Parker does not want to pass the ball to Manu... gotcha

[capek]

Gtfo then, your great takes will be missed.:lol

meh, maybe. probably not. and go fuck yourself talking about someone else's "great takes." little 12 yo shit stain is probably what you are, judging by your contributions to this shithole.

[KL2]

what exactly are the pictures supposed to prove? Kawhi's defender is right on top of him. Passing to him would be impossible here.

:lol it's Steph Curry vs FMVP Kawhi Leonard, honestly, who do you think is going to get the ball with a proper pass? If he didn't have it there he should've passed out to Manu, then they could've easily converted the play. Idk who touched the ball after this but either way, that's a case of exposing the match ups. Curry has no chance against Leonard.

Players get better by giving them more reps, that's how they develop, you keep feeding the ball in the post, teams will start doubling, he passes out breaks down the defense, wide open shot. Or he scores in the post, he's built like a PF in a SF's body.

[RD2191]

meh, maybe. probably not. and go fuck yourself talking about someone else's "great takes." little 12 yo shit stain is probably what you are, judging by your contributions to this shithole.
Tell us how you really feel bro. Go on. :lol

[Mr Bones]

It's absurd to cherry pick one play in a game where Parker had 7 assists in 30 minutes and he and Kawhi both had great efficient shooting nights and the Spurs BEAT a great young team on the road, and then say, SEE? This proves something or other... It proves the system in place is a great one and it's working.

[capek]

Tell us how you really feel bro. Go on. :lol

that about covers it :tu

[Mnky]

outside of a couple ill advices 3s, he was great tonight, tbh


If you're open, you shoot.

That being said,


Manus always open..

[Mr Bones]

Kawhi Leonard... he's built like a PF in a SF's body.

Leonard has the prototypical Small Forward's body, but with a longer wingspan and bigger hands. He's not built like a PF at all.

[Solid D]

Leonard has the prototypical Small Forward's body, but with a longer wingspan and bigger hands. He's not built like a PF at all.

Indeed. Kawhi is fine playing the 4 in small-ball lineups, only.

[EVAY]

It's absurd to cherry pick one play in a game where Parker had 7 assists in 30 minutes and he and Kawhi both had great efficient shooting nights and the Spurs BEAT a great young team on the road, and then say, SEE? This proves something or other... It proves the system in place is a great one and it's working.

You are absolutely right. It IS absurd. Thing is, in this forum, absurdity trumps logic and basketball i.q. every day, 24/7.

Earlier in the thread I considered pulling out the clip of a play in the third quarter when Duncan had the ball at the top of the key and Kawhi was holding his arms up and calling for the ball. Duncan looked right at him and then looked away. Duncan handles the ball just about as much as Parker in this offense, but no one accuses Duncan of ignoring Kawhi. I didn't do it because there is no point in it, and it would be only doing the same thing the Parker haters do. And it would be just as irrational.

Fact is, Parker gets 'blamed' for running the plays that Pop calls. The night before last Pop said that he called plays for Kawhi more that night than ever before. And Kawhi got lots of touches and had a great game. Some of us imagine that the coach may have a different game plan against different teams and may want to emphasize some players over others given the opponent or the time during the game. Bitching about TP not passing to Kawhi is the more recent meme...it used to be that he didn't pass to Manu. Next it will be someone else.

There are haters here who try pretend that they are really not, but then find a fault with Parker after every. single. game., regardless of what he has done in them. If he scores well and frequently, they accuse him of hogging the ball. If he doesn't do either of those things, they accuse him of 'not showing up'. And after each game, it it the same damn posters finding fault. One of my favorites among the haters is the guy who is convinced that he knows Parker's mind and motivations, and regularly asserts that Parker is 'jealous of Kawhi" or "tries to limit Kawhi looking good". It is absolutely pathetic. If Parker has a good game they discredit it by saying he is only a regular season star and that doesn't count. They seem to believe that no one notices that they cannot let him play a single game without finding fault and starting a thread about it.

A lot of us have given up trying to respond to them with reason. They don't listen and they don't care. They have their agendas and that is their only concern. Good on you for trying.

[KL2]

Leonard has the prototypical Small Forward's body, but with a longer wingspan and bigger hands. He's not built like a PF at all.

He can't really guard them because they're simply too big/strong at times, but he's shown the ability to at least give them hell, boxing out, rebounding, cleaning up the class etc. Leonard does not have your prototypical SF's body. When he was drafted he was already 230lbs at 20 years old, he's visibly bigger and stronger in his 3rd year, it's not crazy to think he's gained around 10lbs in 3 years, making him around 240lbs, that's all muscle.

Compare his size to other top SF's in the NBA:

Leonard 6'7 240lbs

George-6'9 220lbs
Batum-6'8 212lbs
Iguodala-6'6 207lbs
Derozan-6'7 220lbs
Deng-6'9 220lbs
Hayward-6'8 225lbs
Evans-6'6 220lbs
Parsons-6'9 230lbs (maybe after his weight gain)
Gay-6'9 230lbs
Durant-6'10 240lbs (built like a stick)
Fat Melo-240lbs (but fat)
Lebron-250lbs (post weight loss)

Out of that list the only quality SF's that really rival his strength/size are Lebron and Melo (Melo is looking skinny these days, Lebron looks much weaker as well). It's time to start recognizing this guy as a power player, because he is one. Watch the finals last year, it's why he was able to hold his own in the post vs Lebron and why he was so effective guarding him/denying him so many attempts. He also bulled through Bosh multiple times throughout the series.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGaZZfy_-DE

:40 look at the separation he creates against Griffin, that's all strength, then look at the shot he gets, he misses it but it's still a high % shot, look how easy of a shot that is for him, high %.

1:00 again, look at the separation he creates again against Griffin with body contact, this time it leads to a wide open jumper, pure strength, Griffin is not small.

1:48, powers through Jordan forcing him out of bounds, grabs his own rebound against Cp3, finishes

Just look at all those post plays as well. It's hard to guard him, too big and strong, it's combo of size/strength you rarely see.

[Spur|n|Austin]

You're the Jeff Ayres of threads

:lol TGY with some goodage.

[Mr Bones]

He can't really guard them because they're simply too big/strong at times, but he's shown the ability to at least give them hell, boxing out, rebounding, cleaning up the class etc. Leonard does not have your prototypical SF's body. When he was drafted he was already 230lbs at 20 years old, he's visibly bigger and stronger in his 3rd year, it's not crazy to think he's gained around 10lbs in 3 years, making him around 240lbs, that's all muscle.

Compare his size to other top SF's in the NBA:

Leonard 6'7 240lbs

George-6'9 220lbs
Batum-6'8 212lbs
Iguodala-6'6 207lbs
Derozan-6'7 220lbs
Deng-6'9 220lbs
Hayward-6'8 225lbs
Evans-6'6 220lbs
Parsons-6'9 230lbs (maybe after his weight gain)
Gay-6'9 230lbs
Durant-6'10 240lbs (built like a stick)
Fat Melo-240lbs (but fat)
Lebron-250lbs (post weight loss)

Out of that list the only quality SF's that really rival his strength/size are Lebron and Melo (Melo is looking skinny these days, Lebron looks much weaker as well). It's time to start recognizing this guy as a power player, because he is one. Watch the finals last year, it's why he was able to hold his own in the post vs Lebron and why he was so effective guarding him/denying him so many attempts. He also bulled through Bosh multiple times throughout the series.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGaZZfy_-DE

:40 look at the separation he creates against Griffin, that's all strength, then look at the shot he gets, he misses it but it's still a high % shot, look how easy of a shot that is for him, high %.

1:00 again, look at the separation he creates again against Griffin with body contact, this time it leads to a wide open jumper, pure strength, Griffin is not small.

1:48, powers through Jordan forcing him out of bounds, grabs his own rebound against Cp3, finishes

Just look at all those post plays as well. It's hard to guard him, too big and strong, it's combo of size/strength you rarely see.


Yeah, I agree he's a great defender & all around player (as was Scottie Pippin, who I think he resembles physically) but his body isn't that of a typical PF. He'd have trouble defending a Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, or Anthony Davis in the paint (though, of course, anyone would!). He'd probably still do a better job of it than quite a few of the PFs in the league now, but I think it would still be an example of a very good player using his versatility to play well when asked to work outside of his natural position.

[spurraider21]

we were +6 in the first half and +7 in the second half.

the impact was definitely felt

[Mr Bones]

I bet every time Blake Griffin found himself in defensive isolation against Kawhi, he thought to himself, "awww shit, not this again!"

[Cry Havoc]

Fixed.

Watch the game.

S D infernoing the thread.