Name the most Valuable players for these NBA teams...

[apalisoc_9]

Dallas
Chicago
Raptors
Spurs
Suns
Clippers
Lakers

Dirk, even though dumbass analyst last year consistently called ellis the best player in the team..What's funny Webber and Barkley were the front runners with this opinion :lmao

Noah

Lowry

Leonard

Dragic

Blake

Boozer/Lin

[Xylus]

Dallas - Dirk
Chicago - Noah
Raptors - Lowry
Spurs - Duncan
Suns - Dragic
Clippers - Blake
Lakers - Ed Davis

[Phillip]

Dallas - Dirk
Chicago - Noah
Raptors - Lowry
Spurs - Duncan
Suns - Dragic
Clippers - CP3
Lakers - Kobe

[ElNono]

Dirk
Rose
Lowry
Duncan
Dragic
Griffin
Hill

[apalisoc_9]

honestly, tim has been so bad the last 5 games at times it's been detrimental to post him up..So I don't know why that's the consensus...He is also not as good defensively as Tiago, Danny and Kawhi..

[scanry]

That back fired quick. In all honesty, KL is the best Spur. And i think Monta has taken over from Dirk tbh.

[Xylus]

There's a difference between "Most Valuable" and "Best." The way I look at it, a team's MVP is the guy who, if you were to remove him from the lineup permanently, the team would perform much worse. Leonard might be the better player, but the Spurs without Duncan aren't nearly as scary. Same with Dallas without Dirk.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Dallas - Dirk
Chicago - Noah
Raptors - Lowry
Spurs - Duncan
Suns - Dragic
Clippers - CP3
Lakers - Kobe

It's a good list, but Griffin is just slightly more valuable then CP3 at this point. As for the Lakers, I think Ed Davis followed by Lin (When he's allowed to run the offense) are the two most valuable players IMO.

[TDMVPDPOY]

imo kawhi is the best spurs for last 3 years no questions

duncan can easily be replaceable if splitter/diaw became more aggressive on the floor, yet we are stuck with 2 softies either always injured or passive on the floor doing nothing...

[apalisoc_9]

There's a difference between "Most Valuable" and "Best." The way I look at it, a team's MVP is the guy who, if you were to remove him from the lineup permanently, the team would perform much worse. Leonard might be the better player, but the Spurs without Duncan aren't nearly as scary. Same with Dallas without Dirk.

This hasn't been true for a two years now...The spurs perform way worse without leonard than without Duncan...

I'd say this, they're not exactly just one player, but the foreign Legion ( Manu, Patty, Tiago, Boris, Belli) are the Blood of the smooth ball movement the spurs have...

Danny, Tiago and Kawhi are easily the best defenders in the team.

[Xylus]

This hasn't been true for a two years now...The spurs perform way worse without leonard than without Duncan...

I'd say this, they're not exactly just one player, but the foreign Legion ( Manu, Patty, Tiago, Boris, Belli) are the Blood of the smooth ball movement the spurs have...

Danny, Tiago and Kawhi are easily the best defenders in the team.

You watch a lot more Spurs games than I do, so you're probably right.

[apalisoc_9]

That back fired quick. In all honesty, KL is the best Spur. And i think Monta has taken over from Dirk tbh.

What your reasoning?

Dirk has been the most efficient player for the mavs in the last end of last season and this season...Still averages more points than Monta as well.

I don't see any valid argument of Monta over Dirk, not one single argument..monta also takes more shots but have 4 points less in ppg than Dirk...:lol

[Malik Hairston]

Dallas
Chicago
Raptors
Spurs
Suns
Clippers
Lakers

Dirk, even though dumbass analyst last year consistently called ellis the best player in the team..What's funny Webber and Barkley were the front runners with this opinion :lmao

Noah

Lowry

Leonard

Dragic

Blake

Boozer/Lin

Dallas- Dirk

Chicago- Can't name 1 player..Rose is by far their best player, but they wouldn't be the same without their defense, obviously..

Noah is extremely overrated, tbh..

Spurs- Leonard

Suns- Dragic

Clippers- Griffin

Lakers- Kobe, since they're clearly tanking, he's the best tank commander in the NBA, at the moment

[Technique]

Dallas - Monta
Chicago - Rose
Raptors - Fields
Spurs - Parker
Suns - Dragon
Clippers - Griffin
Lakers - Old Mamba

[jimbo]

This hasn't been true for a two years now...The spurs perform way worse without leonard than without Duncan...

I'd say this, they're not exactly just one player, but the foreign Legion ( Manu, Patty, Tiago, Boris, Belli) are the Blood of the smooth ball movement the spurs have...

Danny, Tiago and Kawhi are easily the best defenders in the team.

Agreed, they actually brought that up quite a bit last year I think.


They were 32-10 to start the season, then 8-6 while he was out. It was their lone hiccup of what has been an otherwise-incredible season, a stretch of mediocrity sandwiched in between elite play that spoke volumes about the value of Leonard's defensive presence.

Although iirc Danny was out for most of that stretch too, so the Spurs had essentially no plus perimeter defenders for a while so he's not as valuable as that stretch would indicate.

[apalisoc_9]

Agreed, they actually brought that up quite a bit last year I think.



Although iirc Danny was out for most of that stretch too, so the Spurs had essentially no plus perimeter defenders for a while so he's not as valuable as that stretch would indicate.

I agree..

The great thing about having a guy like Danny green is that you can get away with playing against teams with only 1 star perimeter player if kawhi is not playing....That's why teams like the Warriors have Zero chance against the spurs IMO..Danny and kawhi would anally rape Curry and thompson...

having both though is just unfair for many teams...

But I'd say Kawhi this year is a lot more valuable than kawhi last year..His mid range shooting is just beautiful.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I agree..

The great thing about having a guy like Danny green is that you can get away with playing against teams with only 1 star perimeter player if kawhi is not playing....That's why teams like the Warriors have Zero chance against the spurs IMO..Danny and kawhi would anally rape Curry and thompson...

having both though is just unfair for many teams...

But I'd say Kawhi this year is a lot more valuable than kawhi last year..His mid range shooting is just beautiful.

theres a reason why im still mad about pop axing jax 12/13 run, spurs couldve made use of another perimeter defender off the bench while kawhi or green was taking a break...it meant the spurs always had 2 top notch hustling defenders on the court pesting the heat backcourt

[gambit1990]

dallas: dirk
chicago: rose
raptors: doesn't matter
spurs: duncan or kawhi
suns: dragic
clippers: doesn't matter
lakers: doesn't matter

[jimbo]

I agree..

The great thing about having a guy like Danny green is that you can get away with playing against teams with only 1 star perimeter player if kawhi is not playing....That's why teams like the Warriors have Zero chance against the spurs IMO..Danny and kawhi would anally rape Curry and thompson...

having both though is just unfair for many teams...

But I'd say Kawhi this year is a lot more valuable than kawhi last year..His mid range shooting is just beautiful.

He's been good the last 2 games, but he started off pretty terribly on offense at least. He's getting a lot more plays run for him so i guess he's more valuable by default anyways

[Jenks]

Dirk
Pau
Lowry
Duncan
Dragic
Griffin
Lin

[Phillip]

That back fired quick. In all honesty, KL is the best Spur. And i think Monta has taken over from Dirk tbh.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Pelicans78]

Dallas - Dirk
Chicago - Butler
Raptors - Lowry
Spurs - Duncan
Suns - Dragic
Clippers - CP3
Lakers - Ed Davis

[testies]

If you mean valuable in the sense that you can also take into account what they can also do in the future, I'd say :


Dallas - Ellis
Chicago - Gasol
Raptors - Caboclo
Spurs - Ginobili
Suns - Dragic
Clippers - CP3
Lakers - 24

[spurraider21]

Dirk
Gasol
Lowry
Duncan... Kawhi making strides in that dept
Dragic... chief kieff is right there though
CP3... but it will have to be Blake for them to improve
Kobe, which is why they are where they are

[Franklin]

If you take into account players' future potential value I'd say Parsons is the most valuable player for us given his age and talent. dude hasn't fully adapted to the new role yet but when he does he'll be dirk's successor in the future tbh.

[hyhy]

I thought that the spurs looked worse when manu and duncan sat out compared to the games where kawhi sat out

[Raven]

Dallas - dirk
Chicago - pau
Raptors - derozan
Spurs - green
Suns - dragič
Clippers - blake
Lakers - sacre

[Raven]

It's a good list, but Griffin is just slightly more valuable then CP3 at this point. As for the Lakers, I think Ed Davis followed by Lin (When he's allowed to run the offense) are the two most valuable players IMO.

"slightly" :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

"slightly" :lol
Do you watch Clippers games? I assume not. Griffin has regressed. He doesn't fight for rebounds as much and his efficiency has taken a hit, both categories are down. His role has changed to be fair, as much blame Paul gets, Blake hasn't really stepped up to the challenge.

[spurraider21]

Griffin is terrific, but he's always going to be limited defensively because he lacks natural length. that's where my doubts lie.

on the other end the defender is usual just at Blake's mercy

[Raven]

Do you watch Clippers games? I assume not. Griffin has regressed. He doesn't fight for rebounds as much and his efficiency has taken a hit, both categories are down. His role has changed to be fair, as much blame Paul gets, Blake hasn't really stepped up to the challenge.

i probably watch more clipper games than you do and pauls choke jobs are well documented.

[tlongII]

Who gives a shit about those scrub teams?

[Clipper Nation]

Do you watch Clippers games? I assume not. Griffin has regressed. He doesn't fight for rebounds as much and his efficiency has taken a hit, both categories are down. His role has changed to be fair, as much blame Paul gets, Blake hasn't really stepped up to the challenge.

IMO, Blake's back injury from this summer that kept him out of Team USA is more serious than anyone was letting on. You can tell he looks uncomfortable and is lacking explosiveness.

Still, a healthy Blake is easily the most valuable player on the team. Choke Paul, on the other hand, is replaceable.

[StrengthAndHonor]

i probably watch more clipper games than you do and pauls choke jobs are well documented.

Yeah, I really doubt that. The narrative of Paul choking is severely overblown in this forum. Any Clipper fan would tell you otherwise. This has been an ongoing discussion for years in the TB forum tbh.

:lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

IMO, Blake's back injury from this summer that kept him out of Team USA is more serious than anyone was letting on. You can tell he looks uncomfortable and is lacking explosiveness.

Still, a healthy Blake is easily the most valuable player on the team. Choke Paul, on the other hand, is replaceable.

He's not being used properly. That's why he's struggling offensively. Gentry did a great job utilizing Griffin but that doesn't really excuse his lack of effort on the defensive end to a point where he looks like David Lee with more hops out there. His rebounding effort deserves no excuse.


I dont like how Blake and Doc are absolutely infallible, but everything wrong with the Clippers is because of CP3 which absolutely ridiculous. CP3's not perfect, but he's the lease of the many problems, porous defense being a bigger issue. Everyone on this team who plays big minutes is playing below par. Im actually being generous by putting Griffin above CP3 at the moment, but as far as individual play, CP3 has played better than Blake so far.