Was walking away from Miami a mistake?

[Thebesteva]

At the moment, Cleveland is 18th place in the NBA, meanwhile, the Heat look like a more stable roster with better coaching and are 9th place without Lebron. I believe it's after this year (or next) that Wade's contract is up and Miami could have brought in another superstar for Bron+Bosh+someone else. People seriously underrate what Bosh did for Bron both on the defensive and offensive end. Also, Miami has Pat Riley, a winner and Spo who is a much better coach than Blatt.

I know its early, and I'm sure they'll at least cruise to the ECF. But this team doesnt look built to win 2-3 in a row.

Did Bron press the panic button too soon?



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Memphis (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mem/memphis-grizzlies)
8
1
.889
-
4-0
4-1
1-0
6-0
96.6
91.7
+4.9
Won 2
8-1


Houston (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/hou/houston-rockets)
7
1
.875
½
2-1
5-0
1-0
4-1
103.3
92.1
+11.1
Won 1
7-1


Chicago (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/chi/chicago-bulls)
7
2
.778
1
2-2
5-0
2-1
6-2
103.6
97.8
+5.8
Won 2
7-2


Toronto (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors)
7
2
.778
1
5-1
2-1
2-0
6-2
105.4
96.8
+8.7
Lost 1
7-2


Golden State (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors)
6
2
.750
1 ½
3-1
3-1
3-1
5-2
104.8
97.6
+7.1
Won 1
6-2


Washington (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/wsh/washington-wizards)
6
2
.750
1 ½
3-0
3-2
1-1
6-2
98.8
96.9
+1.9
Won 2
6-2


Portland (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers)
6
3
.667
2
5-1
1-2
3-0
4-3
105.4
97.2
+8.2
Won 3
6-3


Dallas (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/dal/dallas-mavericks)
6
3
.667
2
4-1
2-2
1-1
4-2
107.1
98.1
+9.0
Won 2
6-3


Miami (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mia/miami-heat)
5
3
.625
2 ½
3-2
2-1
1-1
3-2
98.8
95.8
+3.0
Lost 1
5-3


Phoenix (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/phx/phoenix-suns)
5
3
.625
2 ½
4-2
1-1
3-1
4-3
104.8
103.4
+1.4
Won 2
5-3


Atlanta (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-hawks)
4
3
.571
3
3-0
1-3
0-1
3-2
101.3
99.3
+2.0
Won 3
4-3


New Orleans (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-pelicans)
4
3
.571
3
3-1
1-2
1-2
2-2
100.9
99.4
+1.4
Won 1
4-3


San Antonio (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs)
4
3
.571
3
2-1
2-2
1-2
3-3
95.1
95.6
-0.4
Won 2
4-3


LA Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers)
4
3
.571
3
3-2
1-1
1-2
4-3
100.7
101.7
-1.0
Lost 1
4-3


Sacramento (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sac/sacramento-kings)
5
4
.556
3
2-1
3-3
2-1
5-4
103.8
102.8
+1.0
Lost 3
5-4


Brooklyn (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/bkn/brooklyn-nets)
4
4
.500
3 ½
3-1
1-3
1-1
3-1
103.9
101.0
+2.9
Lost 2
4-4


Milwaukee (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/mil/milwaukee-bucks)
4
4
.500
3 ½
3-1
1-3
1-2
2-4
92.8
92.6
+0.1
Won 2
4-4


Cleveland (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/cle/cleveland-cavaliers)
3
3
.500
3 ½
1-1
2-2
1-0
1-1
102.3
103.0
-0.7
Won 2
3-3


Boston (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/bos/boston-celtics)
3
4
.429
4
2-2
1-2
1-1
3-1
104.6
106.4
-1.9
Lost 1
3-4


Charlotte (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/cha/charlotte-hornets)
3
5
.375
4 ½
3-1
0-4
2-0
3-1
96.4
98.8
-2.4
Lost 2
3-5


Indiana (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/ind/indiana-pacers)
3
6
.333
5
2-3
1-3
0-1
2-5
91.7
92.4
-0.8
Won 2
3-6


Oklahoma City (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder)
3
6
.333
5
2-1
1-5
1-1
2-3
92.3
96.6
-4.2
Won 1
3-6


Utah (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/utah/utah-jazz)
3
6
.333
5
2-2
1-4
0-0
1-4
97.6
102.2
-4.7
Lost 2
3-6


Orlando (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/orl/orlando-magic)
3
6
.333
5
1-2
2-4
0-1
2-5
95.9
100.8
-4.9
Won 1
3-6


Minnesota (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/min/minnesota-timberwolves)
2
5
.286
5
1-2
1-3
0-0
0-2
99.6
102.9
-3.3
Lost 3
2-5


Detroit (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/det/detroit-pistons)
2
6
.250
5 ½
2-2
0-4
1-1
2-3
93.3
98.0
-4.8
Lost 3
2-6


New York (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks)
2
7
.222
6
1-4
1-3
0-1
2-7
91.6
98.2
-6.7
Lost 6
2-7


Denver (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/den/denver-nuggets)
1
6
.143
6
1-3
0-3
0-3
0-5
101.1
111.1
-10.0
Lost 6
1-6


LA Lakers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers)
1
7
.125
6 ½
1-3
0-4
0-4
0-7
102.6
111.5
-8.9
Lost 2
1-7


Philadelphia (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers)
0
8
.000
7 ½
0-4
0-4
0-1
0-6
90.4
108.3
-17.9
Lost 8
0-8

[Infinite_limit]

I don't think James would have been able to boot Wade out of town, especially if they were still a Title Contender.

[Arnold Toht]

Jimmy tuning his back on his country was a disgrace.

[midnightpulp]

Jimmy tuning his back on his country was a disgrace.

That's 1-7 talking.

[Arcadian]

Still too early to conclude anything about that.

[Arnold Toht]

Jimmy was dominated and exposed by Puerto Rico. After that he refused to represent his country.

What a leader this guy is:lmao

[Infinite_limit]

Who the fk is Jimmy?

[Arcadian]

Jimmy tuning his back on his country was a disgrace.

"His country"

:lol Wow, so you're also a brainwashed patriot? Fuck you Arnold, I hate everything about you.

[King Emmanuel]

jimmy is timmy

[midnightpulp]

"His country"

:lol Wow, so you're also a brainwashed patriot? Fuck you Arnold, I hate everything about you.

The '04 Olympics is all Kobefan has left since Tim tied up the count :cry

[Thebesteva]

Still too early to conclude anything about that.

Normally I would agree with this. Obviously its VERY early and in fact, we wont know if this was the right decision until 3 years from now. However, walking away from Riley who is a winner, Bosh who is still in his prime, and a franchise that knows what its doing for Gilbert and the curse that is cleveland was a huge risk.

Not to mention, Lebron is in his 12th season and he still doesnt have a freaking home. What will he be remembered as?

I think it was a bad decision tbh. But I could be wrong

[spurraider21]

Miami wasn't going to get any better.

not that cleveland is currently a better spot than Miami, but he got to save face and repair his image while leaving what he felt was a sinking ship. with how young cleveland is and how new this core is, there isn't going to be the pressure to win right away. although if Love bolts it could be hilarious to see what ensues with lebron's option

[ElNono]

It was a bad move. Then again, it's the East... You have the Pacers who are discombobulated, Chicago which is a gimmick team, and lastly the Heat, which is only as good as Wade's knees go. The rest is really not even worth mentioning.

[Infinite_limit]

It was a bad move. Then again, it's the East... You have the Pacers who are discombobulated, Chicago which is a gimmick team, and lastly the Heat, which is only as good as Wade's knees go. The rest is really not even worth mentioning.
Playing Defense is a gimmick?

[Mal]

I could have bet money that Bosh was going to have MVP type season. Wade is a as good as his knees, so probably not all season long. Spo is still good coach, Deng is decent pick up. Heat are not a contender anymore, but they can be in East Final.

[Thebesteva]

I could have bet money that Bosh was going to have MVP type season. Wade is a as good as his knees, so probably not all season long. Spo is still good coach, Deng is decent pick up. Heat are not a contender anymore, but they can be in East Final.

Well yeah, but if u add Lebron to that equation....

[spurraider21]

Well yeah, but if u add Lebron to that equation....
they werent getting deng if bron was there. so u basically have last year's team again + sh:lolb:lolzz and mcbob

[ElNono]

Playing Defense is a gimmick?

If you can't sustain it when it matters, it's a gimmick. What we know about Chicago is that they'll post a solid regular season record, they'll be some buzz about if this is the year they'll make some noise, and then they'll fold like a cheap chair in the 2nd round.
That's the Bulls we know and love. There's zero indication it will be any different this season, so we'll go with that until proven otherwise.

[Uriel]

Love is an upgrade over Bosh and Irving is an upgrade over Wade (at this point in his career). Plus, there was no way Miami was winning another title anyway. With Cleveland, LeBron still might.

[100%duncan]

If PG stayed healthy and we have this current set-up, the East would actually be worth it to watch. CLE, Bulls, Indy, Heat.

[100%duncan]

Love is an upgrade over Bosh and Irving is an upgrade over Wade (at this point in his career). Plus, there was no way Miami was winning another title anyway. With Cleveland, LeBron still might.

How is Love a clear upgrade over Bosh? With the way Bosh has been playing right now, proving he can still be a great scorer, 3 pt shooter, and besides Bosh's defense is automatically better than Love. Irving, is probably the reason why the Cavs won't win the 'ship, he will heroball this season away together with his and the Cavs' non-existent defense( :lol Marion). There's no way Cleveland's beating the Spurs either.

[ElNono]

Love is an upgrade over Bosh and Irving is an upgrade over Wade (at this point in his career). Plus, there was no way Miami was winning another title anyway. With Cleveland, LeBron still might.

Irving is a loser, and even though Wade's knees are shot, I'll take a seasoned vet like him to go to battle every time.

[ElNono]

How is Love a clear upgrade over Bosh? With the way Bosh has been playing right now, proving he can still be a great scorer, 3 pt shooter, and besides Bosh's defense is automatically better than Love. Irving, is probably the reason why the Cavs won't win the 'ship, he will heroball this season away together with him and the Cavs' non-existent defense( :lol Marion). There's no way Cleveland's beating the Spurs either.

Yeah, I'm on the fence with the Love vs Bosh thing... Love also always looked to me as a no-defense, finesse guy...

[100%duncan]

Yeah, I'm on the fence with the Love vs Bosh thing... Love also always looked to me as a no-defense, finesse guy...

Not only that, Bosh has proven that he's a winner, a guy that you could give the ball to in the clutch meanwhile Love is nothing but a regular season statpadder yet. Not hating on Love at all but no one can just say he's a clear cut upgrade as a complement over Bosh to Bron.

[Uriel]

How is Love a clear upgrade over Bosh? With the way Bosh has been playing right now, proving he can still be a great scorer, 3 pt shooter, and besides Bosh's defense is automatically better than Love. Irving, is probably the reason why the Cavs won't win the 'ship, he will heroball this season away together with his and the Cavs' non-existent defense( :lol Marion). There's no way Cleveland's beating the Spurs either.
I agree that the Cavs aren't beating the Spurs. But playing LeBron is going to take a toll on your production since you're going to have to take a backseat to him. Case in point: Love is sucking right now, but his stats in Cleveland are still better than those of Bosh when he played with LeBron.


Irving is a loser, and even though Wade's knees are shot, I'll take a seasoned vet like him to go to battle every time.
Irving will mature with time. He's still young. And talent-wise, he's better than Wade at this point in his career.

[100%duncan]

I agree that the Cavs aren't beating the Spurs. But playing LeBron is going to take a toll on your production since you're going to have to take a backseat to him. Case in point: Love is sucking right now, but his stats in Cleveland are still better than those of Bosh when he played with LeBron.


Irving will mature with time. He's still young. And talent-wise, he's better than Wade at this point in his career.

You mean those that netted a back to back?

Love is a regular season statpadder until he proves otherwise.

[Mal]

Well yeah, but if u add Lebron to that equation....

If you add LeBron, Bosh will be still jumpshooting soft big, just standing in the corner and do shit. I didnt watch Miami this year, but I suppose his role has changed.

[ambchang]

Neither the Heat with Lebron nor the Cavs will be winning the championship this year, the West is just too stacked, and Lebron, after 4 straight finals appearances, is exhausted.

Moving to the Cavs opened up more possibilities in the future, and allows Lebron to mold a franchise that has a few seasons before the real pressure is on. The Cavs has a lot of built in excuse if it doesn't win a championship (rookie coach, young players, unfamiliarity) while the Heat will be viewed as done.

Lebron made the right move, it preserved his image (possibly even enhanced it) after a historical failure in the Finals, it allowed him to move back home where he will be loved no matter what he does, it allowed him to share the blame with Love, Irving and Blatt, and it gave him more options in the future.

In other words, Miami is pretty much a dead end street, Cleveland at least gave him some choices.

[100%duncan]

Neither the Heat with Lebron nor the Cavs will be winning the championship this year, the West is just too stacked, and Lebron, after 4 straight finals appearances, is exhausted.

Moving to the Cavs opened up more possibilities in the future, and allows Lebron to mold a franchise that has a few seasons before the real pressure is on. The Cavs has a lot of built in excuse if it doesn't win a championship (rookie coach, young players, unfamiliarity) while the Heat will be viewed as done.

Lebron made the right move, it preserved his image (possibly even enhanced it) after a historical failure in the Finals, it allowed him to move back home where he will be loved no matter what he does, it allowed him to share the blame with Love, Irving and Blatt, and it gave him more options in the future.

In other words, Miami is pretty much a dead end street, Cleveland at least gave him some choices.

Say Lebron's Heat and Lebron's Cavs of today face n 7 games, who would win? (Not 2007-2010 cavs nor 2011-2014 Heat, I mean if we had two lebrons and he had these two teams today)

[djohn2oo8]

No it wasn't a bad move. Wade got lazy with his health when Bron was there. Bosh is having a breakout season and he seems motivated by him leaving

[TDMVPDPOY]

lebron cavs vs lebron heat = same shit, u cant do shit when lebron is in mental midget state

if u look at the heat, t hey only go when the role players click

[100%duncan]

lebron cavs vs lebron heat = same shit, u cant do shit when lebron is in mental midget state

if u look at the heat, t hey only go when the role players click

asnwer it u wanka

[ambchang]

Say Lebron's Heat and Lebron's Cavs of today face n 7 games, who would win? (Not 2007-2010 cavs nor 2011-2014 Heat, I mean if we had two lebrons and he had these two teams today)

Is pick Miami in 5 or 6.

That said, with a player like Lebron, it's championship or bust so his goal shouldn't be going to a better team, it should be going to a team with better championship outlook and if one is not available, go with the one where he can get more love.

[100%duncan]

Is pick Miami in 5 or 6.

That said, with a player like Lebron, it's championship or bust so his goal shouldn't be going to a better team, it should be going to a team with better championship outlook and if one is not available, go with the one where he can get more love.

Well, same answer then.

[Franklin]

Bron will probably make the Decision III in 2 years tbh

[Buddy Mignon]

The '04 Olympics is all Kobefan has left since Tim tied up the count :cry


8T4ZUK-NFKc

[Clipper Nation]

Leaving Miami wasn't a mistake. He wasn't going to win anything else with Washed-Up Wade and soft Bosh. The mistake was going to Cleveland.

[Mr Bones]

Did Bron press the panic button too soon?
























I take LeBron at his word, that he wanted to return home and someday bring a championship to Cleveland. I don't think he panicked at all.

[King Emmanuel]

anytime you leave a proven championship team for a shithole like the cavs it's a mistake

[King Emmanuel]

and its funny how people think nba players actually care about winning:lol lebron is sitting back on his extra hundreds of millions of dollars he made by going back to cleveland, making commercials out of it and new sponsorship deals while you guys are debating his legacy and shit

[Thebesteva]

anytime you leave a proven championship team for a shithole like the cavs it's a mistake

Exactly, well said


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I take LeBron at his word, that he wanted to return home and someday bring a championship to Cleveland. I don't think he panicked at all.


Really? Did you hear his Fruedian slip during the 'coming home' ceremony? He said and I quote," If I wanted to be selfish and just think about me and what I want, I would have stayed in Miami. But this is about us, I did what was right and I came back here."
A lot of Cavs fans were like...I think he worded that wrong :cry He meant something else right guys?

[hater]

IMO Lebron was partying too much in South Beach. Can't blame him. He had to get out of there or he would end up an STD infested mutant looking dude like Wade. Yes he quit again but he also had legit reasons

[Infinite_limit]

If you can't sustain it when it matters, it's a gimmick. What we know about Chicago is that they'll post a solid regular season record, they'll be some buzz about if this is the year they'll make some noise, and then they'll fold like a cheap chair in the 2nd round.
That's the Bulls we know and love. There's zero indication it will be any different this season, so we'll go with that until proven otherwise.
There was no shame losing in the Conference Finals when you have less roster talent than the other teams. Is Noah going to the Hall of Fame? Would you prefer Boozer, Ibaka, Ginobili or Bosh?

[ElNono]

There was no shame losing in the Conference Finals when you have less roster talent than the other teams. Is Noah going to the Hall of Fame? Would you prefer Boozer, Ibaka, Ginobili or Bosh?

It is a shame that they keep relying on middle-of-the-road talent like Hinrich, Noah, Butler, etc... that's entirely on the Bulls, tbh...

Noah a HoF? I don't know. Is Ben Wallace a HoF'er? Big Ben has a ring, Noah is an Euro champ. He's obviously far from Bosh or Gino in that aspect, IMO, tho I'm not sure what that has to do with the Bulls being a gimmick.

[Mr Bones]

Exactly, well said




Really? Did you hear his Fruedian slip during the 'coming home' ceremony? He said and I quote," If I wanted to be selfish and just think about me and what I want, I would have stayed in Miami. But this is about us, I did what was right and I came back here."
A lot of Cavs fans were like...I think he worded that wrong :cry He meant something else right guys?

He could've made more money staying in Miami.

I don't get the LeBron criticisms. He played for Cleveland for 7 years and they were unable to give him a good supporting cast. So he left for Miami, taking a pay cut to win, went to the finals 4 years in a row, and then, as a free agent decided to return back home. It doesn't seem very complicated.

[Mr Bones]

You have no objectivity about the situation.... Cleveland may be a "shithole" to you, but it is LeBron's home. Lots of people in the U.S. think L.A. is a smoggy, traffic-clogged shithole full of superficial, glitzy, plastic surgery people too. Regardless, LeBron returned to the place where he grew up. Honestly, between the two, I'd much rather live in Cleveland.

[Splits]

and its funny how people think nba players actually care about winning:lol lebron is sitting back on his extra hundreds of millions of dollars he made by going back to cleveland, making commercials out of it and new sponsorship deals while you guys are debating his legacy and shit

This. When's the last time a big time free agent decided to go to SA? All they do is win, in the picture every year.

[BatManu20]

Cavs will still make it to the Finals. Book it, imo.

[Sean Cagney]

Jimmy tuning his back on his country was a disgrace.

Obsessed with the man much? He is always on your mind.


Don't forget Kirby dropping out of the Olympics in 04 instead of helping them win a Gold, him and Shaq. I know the rape trial :lol

[Thebesteva]

He could've made more money staying in Miami.

I don't get the LeBron criticisms. He played for Cleveland for 7 years and they were unable to give him a good supporting cast. So he left for Miami, taking a pay cut to win, went to the finals 4 years in a row, and then, as a free agent decided to return back home. It doesn't seem very complicated.

1) He had every right to leave, its the decision that was retarded. During 2008-2010, there was a quiet cold war going on between Lebron fans and haters. We were saying the dude was an immature brat, his fans on the other hand were claiming he was the classiest guy in the league. The Decision settled the debate, and his delusional behavior and "what should I do" commercial cemented who Bron Bron really is.

2) Teaming up with Wade was embarrassing. It was a bitch made move imho. Someone that is that talented basically told Wade and Bosh that he's a mental midget and needs someone else to take over games. People always say what about Kobe + Shaq...those are two very different positions. Bron Bron was asking for Wade to basically take over the 4th because he couldn't. That's exactly the reason he won 2 and why he wont be able to win again barring any injuries to the WCF champion

[DPG21920]

Bosh is better than Love, you're seeing that now. It's probably close, but I'd rather have Bosh when utilized properly than Love. Love is doing fine though, so I'm not implying he's bad. Wade looks better than Kyrie with regards to impact. Wade coasts a lot and has to because of his health, but when engaged/healthy, you see how good he's looked this year despite coasting hard if you watch the games.

However, health is huge and it's not a good thing to rely on Wade staying healthy. It's way too early to tell if leaving was a mistake from a basketball perspective, but I don't think it would have mattered either way. Lebron has about as good of a shot to get to the finals with CLE as he would have with MIA, but this core is younger.

[Mr Bones]

1) He had every right to leave, its the decision that was retarded. During 2008-2010, there was a quiet cold war going on between Lebron fans and haters. We were saying the dude was an immature brat, his fans on the other hand were claiming he was the classiest guy in the league. The Decision settled the debate, and his delusional behavior and "what should I do" commercial cemented who Bron Bron really is.

2) Teaming up with Wade was embarrassing. It was a bitch made move imho. Someone that is that talented basically told Wade and Bosh that he's a mental midget and needs someone else to take over games. People always say what about Kobe + Shaq...those are two very different positions. Bron Bron was asking for Wade to basically take over the 4th because he couldn't. That's exactly the reason he won 2 and why he wont be able to win again barring any injuries to the WCF champion

The Decision was an overhyped move that LeBron himself regretted later. Not that big a deal. He made a mistake turning it into a media circus. Joining Miami was a really good basketball decision. Only a total homer would argue otherwise. Kobe had much more help (Pau, a healthy Bynum, Ariza, Odom) than LeBron and Boston had its big 3 plus Rondo. LeBron had no other all stars on his team, but Kobe and Kevin Garnett had multiple all stars as teammates. LeBron recognized that he needed a real team, and he was willing to take a pay cut to win.

Teaming up with Wade was brilliant. They were the best SG/SF combo since Pippin and Jordan. They went to four finals in a row together, and would've been even better if Wade's health hadn't deteriorated. Every criticism you have of LeBron is an irrational and emotionally childish rant, like saying joining another great player is "a bitch move." How? He knew Wade and Bosh and respected them and they decided to team up. What's wrong with that? Whatever his chances are of winning a title are right now, they're monumentally better than Kobe's, who has shown himself to be one of the most selfish players in NBA history, demanding to be the highest paid player even though he's well past his prime. No one player in recent memory has ever single-handedly guaranteed his team's demise so thoroughly.

[koriwhat]

Who the fk is Jimmy?

Jimmy is just another stupid schtick dipshits here use who think they're cool.

[PingPong]

The NBA Finals will be Spurs against Le Bron. If he win with Miami, will be the Big Three, If he win with Cavs, will be Le Bron + the rest of the team. And he will win for his hometown. If the cavs lose, the support from the others aren't enough. Love, Irving aren't contenders by themselves. Never will be too. It's a win-win for Bron

[Stalin]

Jimmy is just another stupid schtick dipshits here use who think they're cool.



How are you ********?

[Stalin]

C.A.L.F.t.a.t.s. this word is banned lol?

[koriwhat]

How are you ********?

Hows being a dip shit loser that spends all day trying to play Mr cool guy on an Internet forum? Fuckin loser.

[Stalin]

Hows being a dip shit loser that spends all day trying to play Mr cool guy on an Internet forum? Fuckin loser.



lol, you seem more than a little upset, wonna talk about it? Why are those two words censored anyway? c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s.

[jimbo]

It was worth the risk. The Heat had already hit their peak. They were only going to get worse from there on out given that Wade/James/Bosh weren't taking huge paycuts. So their only hope was that OKC somehow found a way to make it to the finals. (either by beating the spurs legitimately or with some major Spurs injuries)

The unknown of the Cavs' potential is worth it when you're only being judged at this point by championship rings. You know even if the Great Satan dragged Miami to the next 2-3 finals and lost 2/3 of them people would give him a load of shit.

[DMC]

Not a mistake. James was becoming "meh", but now he's back atop the media shit pile sans Dwhistle and lizard boy

[DMC]

Obsessed with the man much? He is always on your mind.


Don't forget Kirby dropping out of the Olympics in 04 instead of helping them win a Gold, him and Shaq. I know the rape trial :lol
Bunch of them did, a-scared of the terrorists tbh

[koriwhat]

lol, you seem more than a little upset, wonna talk about it? Why are those two words censored anyway? c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s.

You think because you're Mr cool guy that I'm upset with you? Nah, your tactics are played out... talk shit then ask how I am doing? Lol! It's the same schtick all you dipshits use. Life outside the internet is something you really should experience.

[Stalin]

You think because you're Mr cool guy that I'm upset with you? Nah, your tactics are played out... talk shit then ask how I am doing? Lol! It's the same schtick all you dipshits use. Life outside the internet is something you really should experience.


Serius question:



Would you recommend the experience of getting c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s.?

[Venti Quattro]

No. He wouldn't have won anything had he stayed in Miami anyway. In Cleveland he gets two younger players with something to prove and some decent role players.

[DMC]

No. He wouldn't have won anything had he stayed in Miami anyway. In Cleveland he gets two younger players with something to prove and some decent role players.
At some point it's not about winning rings. It's about remaining a hot ticket. No one wants to see a juggernaut of 1st overall picks win every year. That would take us back to when the Celtics use to ass rape the Lakers every year, that had to be the most boring thing ever to watch, for 10 years, the Celtics in the Finals. Jesus Christ I'd shoot Dale.

It's about Lebron being the reality TV personality, how's he going to get Cleveland to the Finals, will they gel, etc... If Miami wins again, no one gives a shit. Same with the Spurs.

[koriwhat]

Serius question:



Would you recommend the experience of getting c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s.?

Mr cool guy's cool because he lives in his own delusional world on the internet, cool because he sports some dictator (etc) as his av, cool because he really wants you to think he's gives a damn about you by asking how you're doing or by using your real name in his concerned questions, cool because he lives on the internet wasting away his actual life behind a screen. Too cool for school.

Stay on subject you dipshit. Lebron... miami... cavs.... remember?

[m>s]

Mr cool guy's cool because he lives in his own delusional world on the internet, cool because he sports some dictator (etc) as his av, cool because he really wants you to think he's gives a damn about you by asking how you're doing or by using your real name in his concerned questions, cool because he lives on the internet wasting away his actual life behind a screen. Too cool for school.

Stay on subject you dipshit. Lebron... miami... cavs.... remember?
:lmao

[Stalin]

Mr cool guy's cool because he lives in his own delusional world on the internet, cool because he sports some dictator (etc) as his av, cool because he really wants you to think he's gives a damn about you by asking how you're doing or by using your real name in his concerned questions, cool because he lives on the internet wasting away his actual life behind a screen. Too cool for school.

Stay on subject you dipshit. Lebron... miami... cavs.... remember?



What you babbling about, scrah? Put that crack pipe down, you not making any sense, sounds like you describing yourself, after getting enraged at an internet troll. :lol:lol:lol Aren't YOU the delusional retard who thought it would be cool to get c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s. and drop out of high school, to be a male secretary and then become a failing "tat artist". :lol:lol:lol Inevitably, getting so asshurt and bitter about random people making fun of you on an online forum, that you had to cry to the forum's owners to have the shameful words "c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s" censored.

[koriwhat]

...you had to cry to the forum's owners to have the shameful words "c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s" censored.

lol! i dont give a fuck if that's censored or not. dumbass.

the sky is vast so keep reaching for them stars.

[dirk4mvp]

lol! i dont give a fuck if that's censored or not. dumbass.

the sky is vast so keep reaching for them stars.



yeah i got tats on my legs, yeah they're spurs and yeah they're on my calves... we've gone over this yrs ago and yet it's still being brought up like a bad joke. it's fuckin' old man and you think it gets to me when you say the bs you do? you think it gets to me especially coming from some chump off the internet? come on now man... i didn't get these tats because i thought i'd shrivel up into a ball and hide when someone put me down about my decision to tat my calves up with spurs, i got these tats because i wanted to, because i like them and because i could give 2 shits less about some bitchmade chump on the internet.

get over it man and add to this thread or get the fuck out already. come up with something clever or shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.

[Stalin]

lol! i dont give a fuck if that's censored or not. dumbass.

the sky is vast so keep reaching for them stars.



How am I reaching, scrolick? You're the only st clown dumb enough to get c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s, and you constantly get mocked for it, of course, you give a fuck loser, otherwise it would not be censored.


:lol american high school education was too complicated
:lol dopping out of HS to be a male secretary
:lol getting c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s.
:lol failing as tat "artist"
:lol faggot

[Stalin]

yeah i got tats on my legs, yeah they're spurs and yeah they're on my calves... we've gone over this yrs ago and yet it's still being brought up like a bad joke. it's fuckin' old man and you think it gets to me when you say the bs you do? you think it gets to me especially coming from some chump off the internet? come on now man... i didn't get these tats because i thought i'd shrivel up into a ball and hide when someone put me down about my decision to tat my calves up with spurs, i got these tats because i wanted to, because i like them and because i could give 2 shits less about some bitchmade chump on the internet.

get over it man and add to this thread or get the fuck out already. come up with something clever or shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.


:lol classic meltdown

[koriwhat]

How am I reaching, scrolick? You're the only st clown dumb enough to get c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s, and you constantly get mocked for it, of course, you give a fuck loser, otherwise it would not be censored.


:lol american high school education was too complicated
:lol dopping out of HS to be a male secretary
:lol getting c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s.
:lol failing as tat "artist"
:lol faggot

the reaching is better than trolling you because you just keep pretending i did something i didn't which in turn is trolling yourself. lmao! btw, are you going to find a photo of "me" on fb and start photoshopping it for a yr+ while calling me raccoon face? rinse, wash and repeat.

:lol trolling yourself
:lol at you thinking your perception of me means anything to me... there's not enough emoticon's out there to laugh at your sorry ass
:lol stalin was a faggot but not a twink like you

[koriwhat]

hey look everyone... that redheaded bieber **** is back!

[Stalin]

the reaching is better than trolling you because you just keep pretending i did something i didn't which in turn is trolling yourself. lmao! btw, are you going to find a photo of "me" on fb and start photoshopping it for a yr+ while calling me raccoon face? rinse, wash and repeat.

:lol trolling yourself
:lol at you thinking your perception of me means anything to me... there's not enough emoticon's out there to laugh at your sorry ass
:lol stalin was a faggot but not a twink like you


Wow you're so enraged you even making less sense than before. :lol:lol:lol Your retarded choices in life are common knowledge on st, clearly you care about what random people think, by the way you getting defensive online about these facts, hoping everyone forgets that you have faggy c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s, dropped out of the difficult American high school system, was a male secretary :lol, and failed as a shitty tat "artist".

[Molotov]

yeah i got tats on my legs, yeah they're spurs and yeah they're on my calves... we've gone over this yrs ago and yet it's still being brought up like a bad joke. it's fuckin' old man and you think it gets to me when you say the bs you do? you think it gets to me especially coming from some chump off the internet? come on now man... i didn't get these tats because i thought i'd shrivel up into a ball and hide when someone put me down about my decision to tat my calves up with spurs, i got these tats because i wanted to, because i like them and because i could give 2 shits less about some bitchmade chump on the internet.

get over it man and add to this thread or get the fuck out already. come up with something clever or shut the fuck up and get out of my thread.

[koriwhat]

Wow you're so enraged you even making less sense than before. :lol:lol:lol Your retarded choices in life are common knowledge on st, clearly you care about what random people think, by the way you getting defensive online about these facts, hoping everyone forgets that you have faggy c.a.l.f.t.a.t.s, dropped out of the difficult American high school system, was a male secretary :lol, and failed as a shitty tat "artist".

Lol all these facts... oh the hurt! I'm so enraged! Lmao

[koriwhat]

I thought this thread was about lebron... guess I was wrong. So, instead, it's about a few shitty trolls trying to play Mr cool guy. Awesome!

Yall gonna blow each other to celebrate my enraged heart?

[Thebesteva]

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