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BillMc
11-21-2014, 02:48 PM
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/11/21/report-kirilenko-may-be-bought-out-or-traded/

Nets are going to cut him free one way or another. We went hard for him only a year ago, but he looks washed up and must have "issues."

Is he worth dumping Austin Daye for?

Silver&Black
11-21-2014, 02:57 PM
Is he worth dumping Austin Daye for?

As bad as Daye has been this year...he's still a young player. No way the Spurs would even consider dumping Daye for a dude who has 1-2 years left in the league.

lefty
11-21-2014, 03:08 PM
no too soft

SnakeBoy
11-21-2014, 03:08 PM
No, he's not Spurs material.

elemento
11-21-2014, 03:11 PM
As bad as Daye has been this year...he's still a young player. No way the Spurs would even consider dumping Daye for a dude who has 1-2 years left in the league.

What? If what it takes to get AK is only this fucking scrub, SA would say hell yes and no takebacks.

SA should really consider it. Not only AK would be a great backup for Leonard, but he is also a great small-ball PF. High BBIQ player and good defensively. I see this as a great opportunity quite honestly.

Silver&Black
11-21-2014, 03:14 PM
What? If what it takes to get AK is only this fucking scrub, SA would say hell yes and no takebacks.

SA should really consider it. Not only AK would be a great backup for Leonard, but he is also a great small-ball PF. High BBIQ player and good defensively. I see this as a great opportunity quite honestly.

I'll agree that AK47 would be an upgrade to Daye (hell....who in the NBA wouldn't)....but it's never going to happen.

Never......

ElNono
11-21-2014, 03:16 PM
:lol it was slightly over a year ago when some peeps here thought he was the Spurs' savior, crofl

This dude is washed up and hurt all the time. He only played 45 games last season.

SpurPadre
11-21-2014, 03:20 PM
Fuck him. He had a chance to come over and he blew it. And again, NO. MORE. OLD. FUCKS.

Splits
11-21-2014, 03:24 PM
:lol it was slightly over a year ago when some peeps here thought he was the Spurs' savior, crofl

This dude is washed up and hurt all the time. He only played 45 games last season.

:lol who was it that was so pissed that we signed Belli and it "ruined" our chances for AK47? Too lazy to dig it up, but that's some historic failure given what's transpired the past 18 months

BatManu20
11-21-2014, 03:44 PM
Not happening regardless, imo.

He's about to turn 34 and his #'s & PER are atrocious. Guy is washed up.

Sean Cagney
11-21-2014, 03:50 PM
Fuck him. He had a chance to come over and he blew it. And again, NO. MORE. OLD. FUCKS.

:lol, agreed.

ElNono
11-21-2014, 03:52 PM
:lol who was it that was so pissed that we signed Belli and it "ruined" our chances for AK47? Too lazy to dig it up, but that's some historic failure given what's transpired the past 18 months

:lol some peeps had the pitchforks out looking for RC... others wanted Gino to take the vet min to sign this scrub.

DesignatedT
11-21-2014, 03:53 PM
:lol there was some very respectable posters here very upset with the Spurs FO when they didn't get Kirilenko. Especially Bruno IIRC.

dabom
11-21-2014, 03:55 PM
:lmao fuck this old fuck.

SpurPadre
11-21-2014, 03:59 PM
:lol, agreed.

Same goes for Danny Granger and Caron Butler, too. Fuckers thought they were too cool for us. Well you know what? NO RINGS FOR YOU OLD ASS, WASHED UP, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!! LOL.

Mouth is Bleeding
11-21-2014, 04:05 PM
Still think he could potentially provide some value for us and if he really is done (he never got a chance in Brooklyn) then fine, it's no big deal if Splitter returns strong but teams like Rockets and Clippers (Portland maybe?) would love him I think and for them potentially he could really improve some weaknesses which we could do without.

Nathan89
11-21-2014, 04:14 PM
If he was healthy I'd still take him.

DPG21920
11-21-2014, 04:16 PM
People that like to scoff takes always take things out of context. Sometimes, even guys with flaws, are worth the gambles - especially for certain prices. There is no denying, that at AK's price he accepted, that his upside was too good of a fit to not want to obtain. Even with a strong likelihood that he may be washed up.

Anyways, if he's traded, he will likely be bought out and if the Spurs want him they can have a shot at getting him then perhaps. Or if they are willing to put in a pick of some sort with add money added to BKY, they may be able to trade for him straight up.

elemento
11-21-2014, 04:21 PM
No offense, but I thought that some of my Spurs fellows were smarter tbh

His PER or his stats right now mean nothing. Just because his move to BK didn't work out as everyone thought, It doesn't mean that he wouldn't be able to fit in San Antonio in a lesser role, especially considering the scrubs that SA has right now to fill that hole.

Before coming to SA, Diaw was putting 7ppg/5rpg @ 10 PER and 46%TS. So what? He was still a good player in a bad situation, just like AK right now.

AK is still a good player. He wouldn't be here to get a starting job. He would be Leonard's insurance and a front-court option in the playoffs besides Duncan/Splitter/Diaw

It's a great opportunity to get a good and proven player for cheap. If SA could land him for cheap, I would absolutely love it.

objective
11-21-2014, 04:21 PM
Even finished, he's probably much better than Daye.

He'd be worth having, and might not be as finished as he looks in Brooklyn.

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 04:38 PM
If Brooklyn would take Daye and Ayres for him, then there's very little risk or cost associated with acquiring him.

That idea was suggested in the Think Tank a few days ago:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124967&page=86&p=7677783&viewfull=1#post7677783

FromWayDowntown
11-21-2014, 04:39 PM
:lol it was slightly over a year ago when some peeps here thought he was the Spurs' savior, crofl

This dude is washed up and hurt all the time. He only played 45 games last season.

"Mr. Kirilenko? Coach Popovich and Mr. Buford are on the line."

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 04:43 PM
:lol some peeps had the pitchforks out looking for RC... others wanted Gino to take the vet min to sign this scrub.


:lol there was some very respectable posters here very upset with the Spurs FO when they didn't get Kirilenko. Especially Bruno IIRC.

True. They wanted the FO to create cap space to offer AK47 a contract larger than the MLE. Bruno didn't like it when I said that such a move would be similar to acquiring RJ and that the FO had learned their lesson.

Then they were mad at the FO and Manu when the details of Manu's deal were released and killed any realistic chance of getting Kirilenko.

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 04:54 PM
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SpursFan86
11-21-2014, 05:01 PM
As someone else brought up earlier, Diaw was playing like shit in Charlotte before coming here as well. I wouldn't completely write off Kirilenko just because he hasn't had a good stint with Brooklyn. I know people overrate the Spurs' system (some people act like anyone can come in here and become a fantastic role player), but I think AK would fit in well.

I wouldn't mind getting him for cheap. I'd take him over Daye personally. The only thing that would make me hesitant would be his ability to stay healthy, but with the role we'd be asking him to fill, I don't think it'd be much of a risk tbh. At worst it's a waste of a roster spot (Daye/Ayres aren't much better), and at best he'd be a legitimate backup SF who could give us ~15 quality minutes a game.

FuzzyLumpkins
11-21-2014, 05:02 PM
535895370224898048

:lol jfc! haven't they tanked enough?

Malik Hairston
11-21-2014, 05:05 PM
I was completely against signing Granger and Butler, we had an abundance of arguments here about it, with some even claiming Granger would replace Leonard and/or Green in the rotation:lmao..NBA fans are enamored with names more than any other sport, tbh..

In this case, I don't mind trying him out, because unlike Granger and Butler, his style of play would fit with the Spurs..he's unselfish(even to a fault), I don't think he would expect a big role(unlike the other 2), and there's nothing to lose..his passing ability + body could be a nice fit for a team that could use a backup SF..it's worth taking a flier on him IMO..

Daye is having a horrific season, so far..he has a negative PER and he's shooting 19%(:wow) from 3..this was his best opportunity, as Marco has been out, and Kawhi missed time, as well..he's 26 years, old, too, his future is probably in Europe, at this point..

Chomag
11-21-2014, 05:18 PM
For a right price It wouldn't hurt to have him as this year Tmac roll.

RD2191
11-21-2014, 05:21 PM
Scrub had his chance. Fuck that guy.

FlAVaK
11-21-2014, 05:22 PM
yahoo: Andrei Kirilenko has left the Brooklyn Nets, and he may not be coming back (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/andrei-kirilenko-has-left-the-brooklyn-nets--and-he-may-not-be-coming-back-200110105.html)

cd98
11-21-2014, 05:27 PM
We should absolutely sign this guy. He would fit well in our system and is certainly better than Anderson or Daye.

ElNono
11-21-2014, 05:30 PM
The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.

cd98
11-21-2014, 05:30 PM
Hey everybody...remember how bad Diaw was when he was in a bad situation, and after he signed with the Spurs, remember how good he was. AK was doing fine in Minnesota two years ago. That Nets team is awful and full of selfish players. He'd do great in the Spurs system.

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 05:32 PM
The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.

Which is what every needs to remember when he chooses a team like the Clippers that can immediately plug him into the rotation, if not the starting line-up.

cd98
11-21-2014, 05:34 PM
The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.

I agree with your assessment of Daye, but I do think AK could earn minutes in the playoffs. Unlike Daye, AK can actually dribble, pass, defend, and sometimes shoot. Daye is a three point shooter, and a mediocre one at that. Sure he won't get tons of minutes, but he'd have a role on a contending team. For guys like him, that usually suffices. When you are on the Nets, a team going no where, with a bunch of bollhogs, and you don't get minutes, then that's when you complain.

cd98
11-21-2014, 05:35 PM
Which is what every needs to remember when he chooses a team like the Clippers that can immediately plug him into the rotation, if not the starting line-up.

Do the Clippers even have cap space? Spurs just need to point out all that playing time Granger got with the Clippers.

RD2191
11-21-2014, 05:40 PM
In before 10 pages and meltdown when the Spurs don't sign him.

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 05:40 PM
Do the Clippers even have cap space? Spurs just need to point out all that playing time Granger got with the Clippers.

Vet minimum. And Granger was immediately inserted in the Clipper rotation and stayed there until he injured a hamstring.

BanditHiro
11-21-2014, 05:41 PM
lol at everybody being so fucking bitter he jilted the Spurs that they would rather stomach more Ayers and Daye instead of giving Kirlenko a shot.

Johnsyounger
11-21-2014, 05:43 PM
He can pass and play D. If we get him cheap why not?

Budkin
11-21-2014, 05:45 PM
He blew it. Fuck him and his Russian connections.

PingPong
11-21-2014, 05:51 PM
A russian player playing for a russian owned team. Not the best deal, tbh. Those who follows the soccer News know the russians are hard to deal with. Even worse if they are your bosses. But AK has another issues. He voiced against Messina's departure to the Spurs.

http://projectspurs.com/2014-articles/nets-kirilenko-critical-of-ettore-messinas-departure-of-cska-moscow.html

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 06:28 PM
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99 Problems
11-21-2014, 06:37 PM
50/50 tbh. Can Pop get something out of him? There comes a time however when guys like AK47 and Matrix are past the being the players we once admired.

jyra
11-21-2014, 07:00 PM
I have always loved AK's game, really an underrated passer. Also having someone else outside of Kawhi being able to guard bigger wings would be quite nice.

100%duncan
11-21-2014, 07:15 PM
Hows his shooting? Its very important thay you can shoot in this system

Mugen
11-21-2014, 07:23 PM
:lol WTF? Did people really say they'd rather have Daye over AK?

Daye is a D-League player that has no business being on this roster. I'd take a washed up Kirilenko over Daye no question. No f'n question tbh.

spursparker9
11-21-2014, 07:46 PM
Problem is Spurs don't have any extra mins for him.

He will continue to sulk and eventually be a cancer to the rest of the team.

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 07:49 PM
Problem is Spurs don't have any extra mins for him.

He will continue to sulk and eventually be a cancer to the rest of the team.

While you're absolutely right about the minutes, if he signed here he would know that in advance. So, he'd be accepting that situation by choosing the Spurs. That's also why I don't think he'd choose the Spurs.

Cklbmk
11-21-2014, 08:58 PM
:lol who was it that was so pissed that we signed Belli and it "ruined" our chances for AK47? Too lazy to dig it up, but that's some historic failure given what's transpired the past 18 months

might have been me.. I know that was my train of thought

Uriel
11-21-2014, 09:11 PM
:lol there was some very respectable posters here very upset with the Spurs FO when they didn't get Kirilenko. Especially Bruno IIRC.
And timvp. :lol

Mr. Body
11-21-2014, 09:19 PM
Dude could've had a championship last year.

He's better than Daye, but that ain't saying much. I think I'd rather have AK but probably won't happen.

Uriel
11-21-2014, 09:22 PM
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I would definitely do this trade. Kirilenko gives us that backup 3 / small ball 4 we've been searching for for years. Moreover, it's not unreasonable to think he could have a career renaissance of sorts playing here in San Antonio. Daw looked washed up too a few years ago, when we salvaged him from Charlotte. Look what happened to him.

The best reason to do this deal, though, would be because it gives us an additional roster spot. That means we'll have the full MLE to spend at the buyout deadline when we can get another impact player to bolster our championship run.

cd98
11-21-2014, 09:26 PM
Minutes are not that big a deal. Pop spreads minutes so everyone will be fresh. He'd get enough minutes. Plus no coach treats Euro players better than Pop. He respects their game and they all respect him. That's why Belinelli spurned more money to play for Pop.

ElNono
11-21-2014, 09:26 PM
Nets don't want money back... they'll probably look to trade him for a pick + cash...

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 09:43 PM
The best reason to do this deal, though, would be because it gives us an additional roster spot. That means we'll have the full MLE to spend at the buyout deadline when we can get another impact player to bolster our championship run.

Creating a roster spot at the buyout deadline is no obstacle at all.

Uriel
11-21-2014, 09:45 PM
Creating a roster spot at the buyout deadline is no obstacle at all.
Yeah, but then we'd have to waive a player with guaranteed money. Not too sure Holt would be pleased with that.

Mel_13
11-21-2014, 09:50 PM
Yeah, but then we'd have to waive a player with guaranteed money. Not too sure Holt would be pleased with that.

Waiving Daye in March will cost less than the additional salary in the trade you suggested. It won't be any obstacle at all.

Spur|n|Austin
11-21-2014, 11:09 PM
that commie had his chance; I was on the fence before and now def dont want.

cd021
11-21-2014, 11:29 PM
No offense, but I thought that some of my Spurs fellows were smarter tbh

His PER or his stats right now mean nothing. Just because his move to BK didn't work out as everyone thought, It doesn't mean that he wouldn't be able to fit in San Antonio in a lesser role, especially considering the scrubs that SA has right now to fill that hole.

Before coming to SA, Diaw was putting 7ppg/5rpg @ 10 PER and 46%TS. So what? He was still a good player in a bad situation, just like AK right now.

AK is still a good player. He wouldn't be here to get a starting job. He would be Leonard's insurance and a front-court option in the playoffs besides Duncan/Splitter/Diaw

It's a great opportunity to get a good and proven player for cheap. If SA could land him for cheap, I would absolutely love it.

P.E.R can be misleading for certain players. Diaw was actually a below average player last season, which obviously isn't true.

I would take him though I'd be hesitant to cut Daye for him. Part of me thinks that if he ever finds his range again he could be useful in spot minutes against lineups with stretch fours but thats almost certainly never going to happen. He is still a versatile player and wouldn't be a bad pickup.

exstatic
11-21-2014, 11:38 PM
The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.

It's better than the role he has in BRK. He's playing 5 minutes per game in the few he gets into.

ElNono
11-22-2014, 12:10 AM
It's better than the role he has in BRK. He's playing 5 minutes per game in the few he gets into.

Well, that's why he's forcing his way out. I doubt he's quitting the Nets to get into a similar situation.

spurraider21
11-22-2014, 12:23 AM
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we'd need to prepare an exstatic and chumpdumper suidice watch thread if this happened

mkurts
11-22-2014, 12:55 PM
:lol there was some very respectable posters here very upset with the Spurs FO when they didn't get Kirilenko. Especially Bruno IIRC.

If they were upset for that, they are not respectable posters.

They are gutter trash.

Leetonidas
11-22-2014, 01:34 PM
As a backup off the bench for 15 minutes a night to spell Leonard or play small ball PF, why not? Dude kinda sucks now but reminds me of Diaw in Charlotte, aside from being injury prone, I think he just mentally checked out because of the expectations that team had that went laughably wrong. If Daye or Ayres is the asking price I say go for it, Daye is absolute trash and will never be anything useful or special.

TD 21
11-22-2014, 11:45 PM
The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.

He wouldn't have the same role. Daye is the 14th man when they're fully healthy; Kirilenko would probably be 10th from day one, just to find out whether he can help them and is still a rotation player. If he experienced a career revival similar (as in, not to the same extent) to that of Diaw, it's possible he could be the starting PF in match-ups where they have to break up Duncan-Splitter.

Though unlikely, if he played well enough and the Duncan-Splitter combination struggled offensively to the extent it did last season while smothering Leonard's offense, it's possible they could go this full time. Heck, if the elite defense sans Splitter holds, this would probably be the way to go, whether those issues remain or not.

Chinook
11-22-2014, 11:54 PM
The Spurs should try to upgrade their fourth-big spot, but AK isn't the answer at all. They should have really dumped Daye and used the MLE on McRoberts (who's hurt right now, I know). Maybe the team can see what Orlando wants for Mo Harkless.

TD 21
11-23-2014, 12:02 AM
The Spurs should try to upgrade their fourth-big spot, but AK isn't the answer at all. They should have really dumped Daye and used the MLE on McRoberts (who's hurt right now, I know). Maybe the team can see what Orlando wants for Mo Harkless.

He's played so little this season and last season battled back issues and was in and out. Clearly, he's past his prime, but I don't know how anyone could say with any certainty that he "isn't the answer at all".

Harkless is strictly an SF and still a decent prospect (reminds me of a young Ariza, though his shot is further along than Ariza's was at that age), so they'd want actual value in return.

TampaDude
11-23-2014, 12:02 AM
Well one thing's for sure...AK47 is the whitest guy in the NBA...he makes Dirk look like Eddie Murphy.

Chinook
11-23-2014, 12:14 AM
He's played so little this season and last season battled back issues and was in and out. Clearly, he's past his prime, but I don't know how anyone could say with any certainty that he "isn't the answer at all".

None of those factors explain his poor shooting percentage over his career. That's what makes the Splitter/Duncan pairing poor on offense. The point of breaking up that tandem would be to give Kawhi more space to work, but AK wouldn't do that.


Harkless is strictly an SF and still a decent prospect (reminds me of a young Ariza, though his shot is further along than Ariza's was at that age), so they'd want actual value in return.

Magic have a glut of front-court players right now. I'd be surprised if they didn't move at least one this season. O'Quinn would be pretty ideal for the Spurs, but he's been hurt.

TD 21
11-23-2014, 12:24 AM
None of those factors explain his poor shooting percentage over his career. That's what makes the Splitter/Duncan pairing poor on offense. The point of breaking up that tandem would be to give Kawhi more space to work, but AK wouldn't do that.



Magic have a glut of front-court players right now. I'd be surprised if they didn't move at least one this season. O'Quinn would be pretty ideal for the Spurs, but he's been hurt.

He would, because despite the relative lack of shooting (he's not a total non shooter, like Splitter and his shooting wouldn't be nearly as big an issue as a PF as it would be as an SF), he's got face up skills all the same. He's a good ball handler and excellent passer for his size, plus he's an intuitive cutter and moves well without the ball in general.

They very well might. I'm just saying, Harkless is more SF than combo forward and not to suggest it's going to take a kings ransom, but it will take more than flotsam and jetsam.

ViceCity86
11-23-2014, 12:24 AM
NO

ElNono
11-23-2014, 12:40 AM
He wouldn't have the same role. Daye is the 14th man when they're fully healthy; Kirilenko would probably be 10th from day one, just to find out whether he can help them and is still a rotation player.

I don't think he would be. He drops here right now, he'll be behind Beli, which AFAIK, is basically the last perimeter bench guy for a playoffs rotation.

TD 21
11-23-2014, 12:48 AM
I don't think he would be. He drops here right now, he'll be behind Beli, which AFAIK, is basically the last perimeter bench guy for a playoffs rotation.

Barring injury, I seriously doubt they'd play him meaningful minutes at SF. They clearly don't want to have to resort to Bonner anymore when they have to break up Duncan-Splitter, but they have to by default. Kirilenko would simply give them another option, even though he's not nearly the three-point shooter Bonner is obviously.

Mikeanaro
11-23-2014, 12:48 AM
We should look at him in a Rocky IV remake saying I MUST BREAK YOU, Rocky of course will be Belinelli this time.

ElNono
11-23-2014, 12:57 AM
Barring injury, I seriously doubt they'd play him meaningful minutes at SF. They clearly don't want to have to resort to Bonner anymore when they have to break up Duncan-Splitter, but they have to by default. Kirilenko would simply give them another option, even though he's not nearly the three-point shooter Bonner is obviously.

He's actually a pretty awful 3 point shooter, and having a capable 3 point shooter as bait is the only reason Bonner would be on the court in the scenario you describe (breaking up Duncan-Splitter due to a specific matchup). I would actually think if not Bonner, Diaw would be there, and even Beli would be preferable under those circumstances. His 31% 3 point shooting is a large reason why I don't think the Spurs are going to show any interest.

Splits
11-23-2014, 01:01 AM
Dude has Laker written all over him.

DO IT MITCH

hyhy
11-23-2014, 01:35 AM
If bringing AK47 here can clear Daye & Errors from our roster, why not?

ElNono
11-23-2014, 01:45 AM
If bringing AK47 here can clear Daye & Errors from our roster, why not?

Because apparently Brooklyn is not interested in taking contracts back, due to their luxury tax situation.

milkyway21
11-23-2014, 03:05 AM
Now 1 year more older... He has nothing to offer to the Spurs now.
Grr for AK47 for snubbing the Spurs :p:
PASS.

4down
11-23-2014, 09:04 AM
2 skinny Rock's and 1 skinny Drago. Slide KA to Austin and pick AK for the marketing possibilities alone!

PingPong
11-23-2014, 10:57 AM
Anyone just thought AK47 can be worse than SJax as a head case?

exstatic
11-23-2014, 11:00 AM
Anyone just thought AK47 can be worse than SJax as a head case?

What is NO?

exstatic
11-23-2014, 11:02 AM
2 skinny Rock's and 1 skinny Drago. Slide KA to Austin and pick AK for the marketing possibilities alone!

You'd have to cut someone. Anderson is part of our 15 man roster and paid his NBA salary whether he's ballin' for SA or Austin.

Spursfanfromafar
11-23-2014, 11:03 AM
If the choice is between Daye & Kirilenko... the answer is obvious. Even a bad & sulking Kirilenko would be of probable use for the Spurs in lieu of experience at least. Seems he has recovered his health and just doesn't fit anymore with Hollins' system out there. A change of scene for him will probably help. No pity/sympathy though.. he missed a better chance coming to the Spurs last year instead of being paid hush money to work for a countryman boss.

Spursfanfromafar
11-23-2014, 11:06 AM
You'd have to cut someone. Anderson is part of our 15 man roster and paid his NBA salary whether he's ballin' for SA or Austin.

News: http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-assign-kyle-anderson-austin-spurs

exstatic
11-23-2014, 11:14 AM
News: http://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-assign-kyle-anderson-austin-spurs

Somebody called it in the game thread.

milkyway21
11-23-2014, 05:40 PM
San Antonio is mentioned in Kirilenko's possible teams who might be interested (due maybe to they tried to pursue him before), & Clippers.
Buy-out is possible.
But there are preliminary trade talks about sending his $3.3m (remaining of his $6.5 "sweetheart deal") contract, to Philadelphia in exchange of Karasav then will be waived.
He said he felt fine & ready to contribute but had not seen playing time. Personal reasons maybe. Could it be due to his outspoken wife? (Just asking :D)

TD 21
11-23-2014, 07:52 PM
He's actually a pretty awful 3 point shooter, and having a capable 3 point shooter as bait is the only reason Bonner would be on the court in the scenario you describe (breaking up Duncan-Splitter due to a specific matchup). I would actually think if not Bonner, Diaw would be there, and even Beli would be preferable under those circumstances. His 31% 3 point shooting is a large reason why I don't think the Spurs are going to show any interest.

I know and specifically against the Thunder, Bonner would be better suited. I'm speaking in general though. Like I said, for a myriad of reasons it's unlikely they'd go with that. But having a play making PF for 48 minutes could make this offense insane when they're healthy and engaged and if they continue to play elite defense without Splitter, then going this way would make sense.

His percentage from 3 isn't going to deter them because if that were the case, they'd have never been interested a year and a half ago. It's not like he suddenly became a poor shooter.

ElNono
11-23-2014, 08:09 PM
I know and specifically against the Thunder, Bonner would be better suited. I'm speaking in general though. Like I said, for a myriad of reasons it's unlikely they'd go with that. But having a play making PF for 48 minutes could make this offense insane when they're healthy and engaged and if they continue to play elite defense without Splitter, then going this way would make sense.

His percentage from 3 isn't going to deter them because if that were the case, they'd have never been interested a year and a half ago. It's not like he suddenly became a poor shooter.

I don't think they were interested a year and a half ago. At least, there was no official word they were, IIRC.

tholdren
11-23-2014, 08:16 PM
Hows his shooting? Its very important thay you can shoot in this system
No, it's important that you take a good shot, and even more important that you make the correct basketball play i.e. hockey assist

JohnRambo
11-24-2014, 01:31 AM
Do you still remember the 40-page thread in this forum last summer?

BatManu20
11-24-2014, 02:53 AM
It's pretty sad to see AK47 nowadays tbh. This guy was a damn good player in his prime in Utah. Really good all-around game, although never a great outside shooter. He's a shell of his former self now. Really don't see him coming here anyways tbh.

BatManu20
11-24-2014, 02:55 AM
2 things I'll always remember AK47 for though:

1. His horrible back tattoo, and

2. The fact that his wife lets him sleep with another woman once a year :lol

milkyway21
11-24-2014, 03:03 AM
2 things I'll always remember AK47 for though:

1. His horrible back tattoo, and

2. The fact that his wife lets him sleep with another woman once a year :lol

Really? Shocking if true. :D

What I meant about his wife was she talks to the media complaining about AK47's limited minutes.

BatManu20
11-24-2014, 03:12 AM
The Cavaliers are monitoring Andrei Kirilenko's state of affairs in Brooklyn, Northeast Ohio Media Group has been told - though it's more due diligence at this point than anything else. Cleveland is in dire need of an athletic wing defender who can guard shooting guards and small forwards; and a rim protector. The Cavaliers, on all fronts, are busy these days. Cleveland Plain Dealer

http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/andrei_kirilenko

ElNono
11-24-2014, 03:49 AM
The Cavaliers are monitoring Andrei Kirilenko's state of affairs in Brooklyn, Northeast Ohio Media Group has been told - though it's more due diligence at this point than anything else. Cleveland is in dire need of an athletic wing defender who can guard shooting guards and small forwards; and a rim protector. The Cavaliers, on all fronts, are busy these days. Cleveland Plain Dealer

http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/andrei_kirilenko

Yup. Marion has been over the hill for a long time now. AK would be another patch job.

Mr Bones
11-24-2014, 04:24 AM
Definitely worth a look. If he could give the Spurs 12 minutes a game of good defense in the playoffs he'd be worth it.

100%duncan
11-24-2014, 07:54 AM
I dont think Kirilenko will help Cleveland tbh. Can't shoot, past his prime, and his defense is overrated nowadays.

spurspokesman
11-24-2014, 09:09 AM
Worth a flier but kirilenko blew his chance.......

cd98
11-24-2014, 03:28 PM
How do the Cavs have the money to sign anyone after Lebron, Irving, and Love?

BillMc
11-24-2014, 04:23 PM
2 things I'll always remember AK47 for though:

1. His horrible back tattoo, and

2. The fact that his wife lets him sleep with another woman once a year :lol

That tattoo is just awful. And I remember his "agreement" with his wife. Did he tell her the night? The girl? Did his wife stay home and watch a movie and not think about? Did she sleep with Tony Parker that night while AK47 was out? Why was this not a reality show? Oh, yes, because it was in Salt Lake! :)

FlAVaK
11-24-2014, 05:12 PM
And a rumble from the trade front: Word is Brooklyn's market for Andrei Kirilenko is expanding beyond merely dispatching AK-47 to Philly. One intriguing option, if Nets wait 'til Dec. 15 when trade market expands, is said to be AK-47 back to Utah for Jeremy Evans/Toure Murry Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.u7oDMtrf.dpuf

Cklbmk
11-24-2014, 07:04 PM
bet we could dump Ayers or Daye to Philly for a 2nd if need be..

TVI
11-24-2014, 07:17 PM
As someone else brought up earlier, Diaw was playing like shit in Charlotte before coming here as well. I wouldn't completely write off Kirilenko just because he hasn't had a good stint with Brooklyn. I know people overrate the Spurs' system (some people act like anyone can come in here and become a fantastic role player), but I think AK would fit in well.
AK47 is washed up with chronic back and ankle problems.

beirmeistr
11-24-2014, 07:30 PM
Even if he is still useful, though fragile, why would he come here?

TD 21
11-25-2014, 06:38 PM
I don't think they were interested a year and a half ago. At least, there was no official word they were, IIRC.

Well what did you expect, an announcement from them on the situation? Credible sources claimed they were interested and in a more than cursory way.

ElNono
11-25-2014, 08:28 PM
Well what did you expect, an announcement from them on the situation? Credible sources claimed they were interested and in a more than cursory way.

Woj mentioned a S&T with the Wolves, which god knows what would include from the Spurs. The Spurs walked away when Saunders didn't bite, even though AK was a free agent. I don't see how that changes now, unless Kirilienko wants to make even less money.

100%duncan
11-25-2014, 09:55 PM
No, it's important that you take a good shot, and even more important that you make the correct basketball play i.e. hockey assist

Yes and in order for you to do that you need to make the shots. :rolleyes

FlAVaK
11-29-2014, 05:32 PM
Woj via Sources: Family matter clouds Andrei Kirilenko’s trade situation (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--family-matter-clouds-andrei-kirilenko-s-trade-status-190540661.html)

"In checking on the availability of Brooklyn Nets forward Andrei Kirilenko, several contenders were left with the impression that the former All-Star’s desire to tend to a family matter in New York makes a trade impractical for the foreseeable future, league sources told Yahoo Sports..."

Mel_13
11-29-2014, 05:43 PM
Spurs really dodged a bullet with AK in 2013. What a mess.

BackHome
11-30-2014, 01:00 AM
I think he will wait until he is ready to go and then he can then pick the place where he wants to go rather then be traded. Hence the not available because of family issues....