I knew it was bad, but not this bad

[boutons_deux]

Most White Evangelicals Attribute Intense National Disasters To The Apocalypse, Not Climate Change (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/22/3596041/poll-religion-climate-end-times-evangelicals/)

Poll results released (http://publicreligion.org/research/2014/11/believers-sympathizers-skeptics-americans-conflicted-climate-change-environmental-policy-science/) by the Public Religion Research Institute on Friday showed that sixty-nine percent of Americans believe there is solid evidence that Earth’s temperatures are increasing. This is good news, as so far this year has been the hottest ever recorded (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/20/3594961/hottest-october-on-record-globally/), despite the recent chill covering the United States. But the pollsters also asked about the cause of recent natural disasters, and the responses from some religious people could impact how America responds to climate change.

While 62 percent of total respondents ascribed the cause of recent natural disasters to climate change,

49 percent also thought biblical “end times” were the cause. For white evangelical Protestants, these numbers basically reversed —

77 percent pointed to the apocalypse,

and just 49 percent attributed extreme weather to climate change (the numbers add up to more than one-hundred because people could offer more than one cause).

This fatalistic view of the impacts caused in part by burning fossil fuels could influence the national policy responses to the problem. More than half of the total respondents (53 percent) thought that God would not intercede if humans were destroying the Earth, while 39 percent said that God would step in.

http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/endtimes.png


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/11/22/3596041/poll-religion-climate-end-times-evangelicals/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climateprogress%2FlCrX+%28Cli mate+Progress%29

Bible humpers! :lol

BigCarbon owning govt, owning you AGW deniers. :lol

[DarrinS]

"End of days" scenarios, whether by the hand of God or by carbon dioxide, both require a level of religious zealotry and blind faith. Enviro-wingnuts and religious fanatics share this trait.

[SupremeGuy]

"End of days" scenarios, whether by the hand of God or by carbon dioxide, both require a level of religious zealotry and blind faith. Enviro-wingnuts and religious fanatics share this trait./thread

[boutons_deux]

"End of days" scenarios, whether by the hand of God or by carbon dioxide, both require a level of religious zealotry and blind faith. Enviro-wingnuts and religious fanatics share this trait.

Typical right-wing false equivalence.

End Timers are based on Biblical fairy tales, esp OT bullshit craziness, and pastor FUD-for-money fear-mongering

AGW people are based on FUCKING SCIENCE, doncha know? and End Times is not in AGW/science concept. A long, slow (but faster than predictions) global decline due to AGW, but not an "end time".

damn, you rednecks make my bitch-slapping too easy. Y'all set up 'em up, and I knock 'em down.

[Wild Cobra]

Is this a wrong assumption to make?

When given a choice between Climastrology and religion, the religious will select religion.

For other matters, many Jehadists have said they want to bring on the comming of the last Imam. If you have a world group trying to bring on the Apacalyse, then why not believe current warring will bring it?

[m>s]

well aren't you just cute hating christians..typical militant progressive

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"End of days" scenarios, whether by the hand of God or by carbon dioxide, both require a level of religious zealotry and blind faith. Enviro-wingnuts and religious fanatics share this trait.

The insurance industry has been quantifying the financial impact very well. Your "we're not sure so we should do nothing" defense is sinking on it's own merits, sophist.

Nevermind that despite your handwaving at Gore and Hansen, there are multiple peer-reviewed studies that quantify impact in the non-financial sense that have nothing to do with them.

[boutons_deux]

US military, BigCorps, FIRE all war-gaming AGW, while BigCarbon pays to have AGW denied

[The Reckoning]

lol catholics on the side of logic. boutons spin this shit!

[boutons_deux]

lol catholics on the side of logic. boutons spin this shit!

Catholics are one of the worst for keeping women in 2nd place.

[The Reckoning]

Catholics are one of the worst for keeping women in 2nd place.


but not climate change, obviously. +1

[boutons_deux]

but not climate change, obviously. +1

Francis is very progressive compared to most of the hierarchy

[DMX7]

"End of days" scenarios, whether by the hand of God or by carbon dioxide, both require a level of religious zealotry and blind faith. Enviro-wingnuts and religious fanatics share this trait.

You're making a false equivalency -- which is easy to do when you make such a lazy and primitive analysis of the two. Even suggesting both are "end of days scenarios" is beating a straw man pretty hard.

[DarrinS]

You're making a false equivalency -- which is easy to do when you make such a lazy and primitive analysis of the two. Even suggesting both are "end of days scenarios" is beating a straw man pretty hard.

Shown at the U.N. Climate Conference in Copenhagen


http://youtu.be/jzSuP_TMFtk

[DMX7]

Shown at the U.N. Climate Conference in Copenhagen


http://youtu.be/jzSuP_TMFtk

That's not the mainstream argument. That's one hyperbolic anamoly. Again, a lazy analysis of the issues on your part.

[angrydude]

I'd say it's the mainstream argument of environmental activists.

And they're certainly a loud voice in this conversation.

[DarrinS]

That's not the mainstream argument. That's one hyperbolic anamoly. Again, a lazy analysis of the issues on your part.

Do you know who that man is at 3:04 is, saying "we will have hundreds of millions of climate refugees"?

He's this guy. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_K._Pachauri

[spurraider21]

Shown at the U.N. Climate Conference in Copenhagen


http://youtu.be/jzSuP_TMFtk
surprised that opening scene wasn't acid rain melting everybody's skin off tbh

[BatManu20]

Apocalyptic conspiracies are for basement dwellers, tbh. Humans will definitely kill themselves off this planet, but it won't be in some singular cataclysmic event. It'll be gradual. It's pretty much guaranteed humans will be the cause of our own downfall though.

[DMX7]

Do you know who that man is at 3:04 is, saying "we will have hundreds of millions of climate refugees"?

He's this guy. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_K._Pachauri

Eventually that is a possibility. The video is obviously just a dramatization though.

[boutons_deux]

eventually, 100Ms displaced, sure, 100Ms live in coastal areas that will be flooded, like Miami, Chesapeake Bay, etc, and drought, famine will displace, kill 100Ms.

[DarrinS]

eventually, 100Ms displaced, sure, 100Ms live in coastal areas that will be flooded, like Miami, Chesapeake Bay, etc, and drought, famine will displace, kill 100Ms.


They predicted 50 million climate refugees by 2010, but had to move the goalpost to 2020. They'll probably have to move the goalposts again in 5 years.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/15/the-un-disappears-50-million-climate-refugees-then-botches-the-disappearing-attempt/

[boutons_deux]

They predicted 50 million climate refugees by 2010, but had to move the goalpost to 2020. They'll probably have to move the goalposts again in 5 years.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/15/the-un-disappears-50-million-climate-refugees-then-botches-the-disappearing-attempt/

damn, the world-wide AGW conspiracy screwed up again. :lol

btw, the Syrian revolt started as water, crops failed and Assad did nothing (he's the perfect conservative, "que les mange de la sable" let them eat sand)

[spurraider21]

They predicted 50 million climate refugees by 2010, but had to move the goalpost to 2020. They'll probably have to move the goalposts again in 5 years.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/15/the-un-disappears-50-million-climate-refugees-then-botches-the-disappearing-attempt/
obviously because more people drove hybrids and took shorter showers

[DMX7]

damn, the world-wide AGW conspiracy screwed up again. :lol

btw, the Syrian revolt started as water, crops failed and Assad did nothing (he's the perfect conservative, "que les mange de la sable" let them eat sand)

AGW is just a theory. Just like evolution!