If JJ Watt doesn't win MVP...

[benefactor]

...it's a fucking robbery. He's the best player in the league by a sizable margin.

[djohn2oo8]

...it's a fucking robbery. He's the best player in the league by a sizable margin.

If he had a decent QB and a few more wins he would have a chance.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

...it's a fucking robbery. He's the best player in the league by a sizable margin.

Luke Keuchly?

I'd rather have K.. and we've had great defensive ends (Peppers)

[Malik Hairston]

Serious question..why is Houston's D-line ranked as average/below average by defensive metrics, despite Watt's presence, tbh?..just wondering, since I don't watch them very often..

[djohn2oo8]

Serious question..why is Houston's D-line ranked as average/below average by defensive metrics, despite Watt's presence, tbh?..just wondering, since I don't watch them very often..

They don't have any other rushers. None.

[benefactor]

Serious question..why is Houston's D-line ranked as average/below average by defensive metrics, despite Watt's presence, tbh?..just wondering, since I don't watch them very often..
There's just not a lot of help. Mercilus has had a nice bounce back season but the rest of the guys aren't that good.

[benefactor]

Luke Keuchly?

I'd rather have K.. and we've had great defensive ends (Peppers)
This is probably your worst football take ever...and that's saying a lot.

[Clipper Nation]

Luke Keuchly?

I'd rather have K.. and we've had great defensive ends (Peppers)
Of course your faggot homer ass would want Kuechly over JJ fucking Watt. :lol

[spurraider21]

Kuechly is a great player but Watt is playing at historic levels

[monosylab1k]

Kuechly is your typical "run around making easy volume tackles, look like you're trying harder than you actually are, get all fired up to show your so-called leadership, but overrated as fuck" linebackers a la Urlacher/Zach Thomas/etc

[monosylab1k]

It's pretty crazy that Watt is a DT and he's personally responsible for carryig the team to at least 3 extra wins this season. Easily the MVP regardless of team record.

[Malik Hairston]

Brady and Rodgers are playing in the most hyped game of the year today..if one of them dominates, it could go a long way in the MVP convo, tbh..

[Killakobe81]

Tough to give mvp to a team with a mediocre record dats just the way it is ...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Kuechly is your typical "run around making easy volume tackles, look like you're trying harder than you actually are, get all fired up to show your so-called leadership, but overrated as fuck" linebackers a la Urlacher/Zach Thomas/etc

:lol Salty af over the game last year


Keuchley led us to 12-4. WTF has Watt ever led anyone to? "5 TD's first time since 1944". Yea, cause they ran him 2 1 yard TD passes. Padded stats. K has been in the game 2 years and won Rook of Year, DMVP, and is still growing. Yea, I'll take my chances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJve0fNqrs

Easy volume tackles in a fucking monsoon.

[FkLA]

Nah. As great as he is he's still a defensive lineman and the Texans still suck.

[spurraider21]

:lol Salty af over the game last year


Keuchley led us to 12-4. WTF has Watt ever led anyone to? "5 TD's first time since 1944". Yea, cause they ran him 2 1 yard TD passes. Padded stats. K has been in the game 2 years and won Rook of Year, DMVP, and is still growing. Yea, I'll take my chances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJve0fNqrs

Easy volume tackles in a fucking monsoon.
is that you in the vid?

:lmao at calling the play at 1:50 a tackle for him... not to mention about 10 of those plays went for first downs

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

is that you in the vid?

Caught me. :downspin:

The exact reason I left these forums. People don't know shit.

Peppers in his glory days was amazing, one of the best DE ever (yes, ever). He led us farther than Watt has ever led us.

I'm not saying Watt is not as good as prime Peppers, but DE's do not have that much weight on success.

Look at the 49ers. Their LB's are the reason they are good. When they weren't there this year? Mediocre.

[benefactor]

Keuchley led us to 12-4. WTF has Watt ever led anyone to?
:lol

Watt led Houston to 12-4 in 2012 while running away with DPOY. 20.5 sacks, 23 tackles for a loss and an NFL record 16 tipped passes. Please stop talking football.

[Kool Bob Love]

Texans ain't gonna make the playoffs. Just saw who the OP was. Typical uneducated NFL post from him.

[spurraider21]

Caught me. :downspin:

The exact reason I left these forums. People don't know shit.

Peppers in his glory days was amazing, one of the best DE ever (yes, ever). He led us farther than Watt has ever led us.

I'm not saying Watt is not as good as prime Peppers, but DE's do not have that much weight on success.

Look at the 49ers. Their LB's are the reason they are good. When they weren't there this year? Mediocre.
peppers is one of the best DE's of his era, not one of the best ever. there was hardly a year or two where he was the consensus best player at his position

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

i:lmao at calling the play at 1:50 a tackle for him... not to mention about 10 of those plays went for first downs

Okay 23 tackles you bum. More than the Raiders made all day today.

Mono stated that Kuechly makes easy tackles. Doesn't matter if they were first downs, he hustles every play and is the only one to make plays on D (and TD)

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

peppers is one of the best DE's of his era, not one of the best ever. there was hardly a year or two where he was the consensus best player at his position

If I'm not mistaking, he's in the top 15 for sacks all time. I'd consider that one of the best.

[spurraider21]

Okay 23 tackles you bum. More than the Raiders made all day today.

Mono stated that Kuechly makes easy tackles. Doesn't matter if they were first downs, he hustles every play and is the only one to make plays on D (and TD)
that was Mono's point tbh. a tackle after a play went for a first isn't really impactful when it comes to the result of the game. when its a 3rd and 1 and you make a tackle after a 4 yard gain, it's really not an impressive play.

[spurraider21]

If I'm not mistaking, he's in the top 15 for sacks all time. I'd consider that one of the best.
sacks werent even recorded until the 80's

he's a top 5 DE of this era, somewhere alongside Richard Seymour, Jared Allen, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

that was Mono's point tbh. a tackle after a play went for a first isn't really impactful when it comes to the result of the game. when its a 3rd and 1 and you make a tackle after a 4 yard gain, it's really not an impressive play.

Please watch Kuechly highlights and talk to me. You are trying to tell me that K is not impressive and not very impactful.

He is also in his third year. Pleny of time to grow.. obviously a top 3 D player in the league.

[spurraider21]

Please watch Kuechly highlights and talk to me. You are trying to tell me that K is not impressive and not very impactful.

He is also in his third year. Pleny of time to grow.. obviously a top 3 D player in the league.
i watched the video you posted. he had like 5-6 impressive plays in there. i already said earlier in this thread he's a great player

[Clipper Nation]

Keuchley led us to 12-4.
At least you finally admit that Cum Newton hasn't done shit and his only team success was a product of the defense.

[vander]

he disappears for long stretches.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

At least you finally admit that Cum Newton hasn't done shit and his only team success was a product of the defense.

Cam too

[Clipper Nation]

Cam too
Cum led you to 0-1 in the playoffs.

[djohn2oo8]

he disappears for long stretches.

Not really. He is being held most of the game.

[benefactor]

he's held by offensive linemen for long stretches.
:tu

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:tu

I think most of them are retard.

[FkLA]

Not really. He is being held most of the game.


:tu

Seems like retard minds think alike tbh. :tu

[FkLA]

:lol

Watt led Houston to 12-4 in 2012 while running away with DPOY. 20.5 sacks, 23 tackles for a loss and an NFL record 16 tipped passes. Please stop talking football.

Absolutely dominant.

Yet on average that's still only about 1 sack, 1 TFL and 1 tipped pass per game. Even if you factor in QB hurries or drawing double teams it still really puts into perspective how small the impact is compared to a QB/RB/WR. That's just how it is.

[spurraider21]

Absolutely dominant.

Yet on average that's still only about 1 sack, 1 TFL and 1 tipped pass per game. Even if you factor in QB hurries or drawing double teams it still really puts into perspective how small the impact is compared to a QB/RB/WR.
:lol the NFL record for sacks in a season is 22.5, he put up 20.5 and you brush it off as "thats still only about 1 sack per game"

cmon man. when you put up that many sacks, think about how much opposing offenses need to gameplan specifically to stay away from you. double teams, limited the playbook, never running in your direction. makes it easier for the rest of the defense, even on plays where he doesnt record a statistic

[benefactor]

Seems like retard minds think alike tbh. :tu
http://hou.scout.com/story/1477054-can-t-block-j-j-watt-eagles-edition

That's just one game. I can get you more if you'd like.

[benefactor]

:lol the NFL record for sacks in a season is 22.5, he put up 20.5 and you brush it off as "thats still only about 1 sack per game"

cmon man. when you put up that many sacks, think about how much opposing offenses need to gameplan specifically to stay away from you. double teams, limited the playbook, never running in your direction. makes it easier for the rest of the defense, even on plays where he doesnt record a statistic
Beat me to it.

C'mon Fkla...at least try with your trolling.

[FkLA]

:lol the NFL record for sacks in a season is 22.5, he put up 20.5 and you brush it off as "thats still only about 1 sack per game"

cmon man

I'm not trying to downplay his dominance, he's a monster. But 1.28 sacks per game is 1.28 sacks per game no matter how you look at it.

My point was you can be a monster and still not have the impact QBs/RBs/WRs have.

[vander]

Not really. He is being held most of the game.

as do most defensive linemen

[djohn2oo8]

Two sacks,forced fumble,fumble recovery and a TD catch today :tu

[Spur-Addict]

Kuechly is your typical "run around making easy volume tackles, look like you're trying harder than you actually are, get all fired up to show your so-called leadership, but overrated as fuck" linebackers a la Urlacher/Zach Thomas/etc

Very good post.

[DPG21920]

He's also has the same RedZone only skills as Julius Thomas tbh..

[Malik Hairston]

Rodgers is probably going to win if GB holds on today, and he continues at the same pace, tbh..

Watt would only get it if the Texans make it to the playoffs, as unfair as that is..

[chunticakes]

:lol Salty af over the game last year


Keuchley led us to 12-4. WTF has Watt ever led anyone to? "5 TD's first time since 1944". Yea, cause they ran him 2 1 yard TD passes. Padded stats. K has been in the game 2 years and won Rook of Year, DMVP, and is still growing. Yea, I'll take my chances.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJve0fNqrs

Easy volume tackles in a fucking monsoon.

What happened to the whole Cum Newton leading them to victory take?

[Raven]

rodgers will win it, no doubt.

[unleashbaynes]

Luke Keuchly?

I'd rather have K.. and we've had great defensive ends (Peppers)

Wow, you seriously have to be the faggiest homer in the fuckin world to puke this bullshit onto my screen.

[Henrik Sedin]

Very good post.
I don't mean to talk shit, but your team had a total of like 20 points playing against him

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Wow, you seriously have to be the faggiest homer in the fuckin world to puke this bullshit onto my screen.

Shut up scrub. Defensive lineman don't make that much of a difference in the game. I'll take the best linebacker in the game, the reigning DPOY, the ROTY two years ago, and the leader in tackles this year.

I get it, you guys don't like Carolina.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol

Watt led Houston to 12-4 in 2012 while running away with DPOY. 20.5 sacks, 23 tackles for a loss and an NFL record 16 tipped passes. Please stop talking football.

You mean the last year that Schaub was a great QB?

[DPG21920]

Shut up scrub. Defensive lineman don't make that much of a difference in the game. I'll take the best linebacker in the game, the reigning DPOY, the ROTY two years ago, and the leader in tackles this year.

I get it, you guys don't like Carolina.

How is CAR doing this year with that top QB and top DEF player?

[unleashbaynes]

Shut up scrub. Defensive lineman don't make that much of a difference in the game. I'll take the best linebacker in the game, the reigning DPOY, the ROTY two years ago, and the leader in tackles this year.

I get it, you guys don't like Carolina.

yeah whatever buddy, keep telling yourself that. you're only lying to yourself.

[rogues]

Imagine how retarded Frizzle's parents were to manufacture and unleash this retarded Cat-loving uneducated fetus?..one can only wonder, tbh..

[Clipper Nation]

I get it, you guys don't like Carolina.

Gee, I wonder why such an irrelevant team is so widely disliked...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Gee, I wonder why such an irrelevant team is so widely disliked...

Because last year you said we were going to suck, said Cam sucked, and he whipped every single one of the boys up here's squad at least once :lol..

And because Cam's numbers were superior to Luck's last year. Before our offensive line was 4 undrafted free agents and Ryan Khalil.

[Clipper Nation]

Because last year you said we were going to suck, said Cam sucked, and he whipped every single one of the boys up here's squad at least once :lol..

And because Cam's numbers were superior to Luck's last year. Before our offensive line was 4 undrafted free agents and Ryan Khalil.

Or because you're a homer faggot.

[spurraider21]

Because last year you said we were going to suck, said Cam sucked, and he whipped every single one of the boys up here's squad at least once :lol..

And because Cam's numbers were superior to Luck's last year. Before our offensive line was 4 undrafted free agents and Ryan Khalil.
when i told you they got worse this year you brushed it off though. you resorted to hyping up shitty pickups like jason avant and tiquan underwood

[AlexJones]

....then Rodgers will

[Kawhi]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3vqErIIcAAjmfh.jpg

[FkLA]

The offensive TDs are pretty retarded. It's not like strength and power translate to receiving, he looks pretty unnatural on that side of the ball imo.

[spurraider21]

The offensive TDs are pretty retarded. It's not like strength and power translate to receiving, he looks pretty unnatural on that side of the ball imo.
he's the best defensive player in the league who also happens to be a weapon on the goal line offensively. if they were a playoff team he'd get more serious mvp consideration

[FkLA]

As a blocker, maybe. He's definitely not a legit receiving weapon. The rest of your post has nothing to do with what my post was about.

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJpnSVgNJk

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb2lYCllGdk&app=desktop

[spurraider21]

you dont think an over the shoulder boundary catch makes him look even a little natural out there?

[FkLA]

Bro, catching the ball ain't rocket science. I can make an over the shoulder catch. That was a well placed ball by the Amish Rifle more than anything.

Watt isn't particularly fast or quick or someone you can just throw it up high and he'll go get it. I think once defenses take him even a little seriously he'll be neutralized pretty quick. His biggest skill (power) doesn't really mean shit on offense.

[benefactor]

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[djohn2oo8]

Bro, catching the ball ain't rocket science. I can make an over the shoulder catch. That was a well placed ball by the Amish Rifle more than anything.

Watt isn't particularly fast or quick or someone you can just throw it up high and he'll go get it. I think once defenses take him even a little seriously he'll be neutralized pretty quick. His biggest skill (power) doesn't really mean shit on offense.
This and your Dunning Kruger takes are historically bad. Catching the ball is a skill you dumbass. And defensive lineman usually don't have the hands to do so.

[FkLA]

Fucking lol at the two dumbest posters on this site trying to play the youre dumb card. Yeah, Watt is Gronk bc he made an over the shoulder catch. If I need a big catch in a crucial game I am going straight to Watt!! :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Fucking lol at the two dumbest posters on this site trying to play the youre dumb card. Yeah, Watt is Gronk bc he made an over the shoulder catch. :lol

You said catching the ball isn't a skill, when it is. Defensive lineman aren't supposed to have receiving skills

http://pics.mcclatchyinteractive.com/wire_photos/fji31z/picture4125971/alternates/FREE_960/745One%20Handed%20Grabs%20Football.JPEG

[FkLA]

Wow look at that, one hand during warm ups!!

There's millions of average Joes that can make the catches Watt has made. I guess technically it's a skill but it's a pretty elementary one. Either way good hands alone don't make a good red zone threat, his skill set just isn't suited for that. I think that's pretty obvious, not sure why you two retarded homers get so butthurt about it.

[FkLA]

:cry JJ Swatt is elite at everything :cry

[djohn2oo8]

Wow look at that, one hand during warm ups!!

There's millions of average Joes that can make the catches Watt has made. I guess technically it's a skill but it's a pretty elementary one. Either way good hands alone don't make a good red zone threat, his skill set just isn't suited for that. I think that's pretty obvious, not sure why you two retarded homers get so butthurt about it.

So why aren't those millions of average Joes in the NFL making catches? :lmao tard

[Raven]

fkla is quite right about this tbh, texans just trying to statpad Watt with some well timed PR plays, but really what he should be doing is getting the league lead in sacks, if anything.

[djohn2oo8]

fkla is quite right about this tbh, texans just trying to statpad Watt with some well timed PR plays, but really what he should be doing is getting the league lead in sacks, if anything.

So instead of just trying to get sacks, he shouldn't be deflecting passes, forcing fumbles, returning them for TDs, tackling for losses, hitting the QB, and intercepting the ball? :lol

[Raven]

So instead of just trying to get sacks, he shouldn't be deflecting passes, forcing fumbles, returning them for TDs, tackling for losses, hitting the QB, and intercepting the ball? :lol

well if we are speaking about stats, then his numbers are way down compared to 2012, and he didn't win the mvp then, so..

[djohn2oo8]

well if we are speaking about stats, then his numbers are way down compared to 2012, and he didn't win the mvp then, so..

Having the most sacks doesn't automatically make you MVP. The fact he has to carry the entire team and is a big reason why they aren't going to be 2-14 again, AND scoring on offense. You said he should.be leading the league in sacks and then move the goalposts. Oh, and he is 2.5 sacks away from leading the league, with no other primary rushers.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

So why aren't those millions of average Joes in the NFL making catches? :lmao tard

Seriously dude?

Warren Sapp was known for making crazy goal line touchdowns..

People call me a homer..

I played WR and DB through HS, and FKLA is right on this. Over the shoulder, one hand catches, they take talent... but ANY average Joe can make a good catch once in a while.

[Spur-Addict]

This and your Dunning Kruger takes are historically bad. Catching the ball is a skill you dumbass. And defensive lineman usually don't have the hands to do so.

:lol Forgot about those.

[Raven]

Having the most sacks doesn't automatically make you MVP. The fact he has to carry the entire team and is a big reason why they aren't going to be 2-14 again, AND scoring on offense. You said he should.be leading the league in sacks and then move the goalposts. Oh, and he is 2.5 sacks away from leading the league, with no other primary rushers.

i did not say he'd be the mvp, but if you have a shitty record, your D is not even close to being the top ranked one and you don't even lead the league in sacks, interception or tackles, then i don't see a scenario where a few td (well, not that few) can make him the mvp.

[djohn2oo8]

Seriously dude?

Warren Sapp was known for making crazy goal line touchdowns..

People call me a homer..

I played WR and DB through HS, and FKLA is right on this. Over the shoulder, one hand catches, they take talent... but ANY average Joe can make a good catch once in a while.
He's making those catches consistently and is the best TE on the team. Average Joes can be easily covered in the end zone. Watt can't which is why they put him there on scoring opportunities.

[djohn2oo8]

i did not say he'd be the mvp, but if you have a shitty record, your D is not even close to being the top ranked one and you don't even lead the league in sacks, interception or tackles, then i don't see a scenario where a few td (well, not that few) can make him the mvp.

Watt has the most pass deflections by any defender, most fumble recoveries, most tackles by a defensive lineman, most combination tackles by any defender in the league. Most TD catches by any TE on the team .And only needs 2.5 sacks to be in first. This is with Clowney barely playing, and a shitty QB all year. Yet they have a chance to have a winning record next week.

[djohn2oo8]

Also, the Texans D has the most takeaways in the league. #MVPWatt

[Raven]

Watt has the most pass deflections by any defender, most fumble recoveries, most tackles by a defensive lineman, most combination tackles by any defender in the league. Most TD catches by any TE on the team .And only needs 2.5 sacks to be in first. This is with Clowney barely playing, and a shitty QB all year. Yet they have a chance to have a winning record next week.
ahm, no he's not.

[djohn2oo8]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/sacks

Not going through 36 pages. He obviously leads DL.

[Clipper Nation]

Watt started out as a tight end at CMU before transferring to Wisconsin, so he obviously has experience catching the ball. FkLA being a retarded tranny-lover per par.

[Avante]

Watt belongs in that club with Jim Brown, Don Hutson, "Slingin" " Sammy Baugh, "Night Train" Lane, Deacon Jones, "Bullet" Bob Hayes amd Lawrence Taylor........those who were unique and not seen before.

If I could start a new franchise and could have any player other than a QB it would be Watt.

[Raven]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/sacks

Not going through 36 pages. He obviously leads DL.

not what you said tbh :lol

[unleashbaynes]

Fucking lol at the two dumbest posters on this site trying to play the youre dumb card. Yeah, Watt is Gronk bc he made an over the shoulder catch. If I need a big catch in a crucial game I am going straight to Watt!! :lol

fucking lol at you being so asshurt over whatever these two posters said to you that you try to say that JJ Watt catching over the shoulder fade routes in goal line situations is something most any defensive lineman could do.

[FkLA]

:lol Trying to bring up his stint as a TE at Central Michigan as if that's a good thing. So let me get this straight...he was a below average receiving TE in the MAC yet somehow now hes the best receiving TE on an NFL team. That makes sense.

Watt wouldn't even make an NFL squad as a receiving TE, you retarded homers.

[FkLA]

Didn't Antonio Gates and Peppers play bball in college? Bet they couldve been the best player on an NBA team!!

[unleashbaynes]

It really is weird that someone who calls themselves a Spurfan can be so hard-headed about the impact a player has on a game outside of their raw stats, tbh...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It really is weird that someone who calls themselves a Spurfan can be so hard-headed about the impact a player has on a game outside of their raw stats, tbh...

Its really weird that you seriously think JJ is the difference maker for Houston

:lol thinking Watt is more Burke to their team than Rodgers, Brady or even Rivers.

[FkLA]

He's making those catches consistently and is the best TE on the team. Average Joes can be easily covered in the end zone. Watt can't which is why they put him there on scoring opportunities.

Bwahaha this retarded ass nigga actually thinks Watt is catching TDs bc he 'cant be covered'. Gronk and Graham aint got shit on Watt tbh. :rollin

[Avante]

The first college basketbaler to make an impact in the NFL was Niner receiver R.C.Owens. He played b-ball at Idaho.

He and Hall of Fame (to be) QB were the first to use the ...Alley Oop...pass as a legit weapon. Tittle would just throw it up high and Owens would out jump everyone for the ball.

There was a game where the opposition was going to try a long field goal, the thought process was....it might just make it barely.....so they put Owens back there to block it, yep....jump up and bat the ball down....hahahaha!!!!!!!

copy


Owens was a trail blazer of another supremely athletic move. But it was one that was barred from the game.

In 1962, the 6-foot-3 Owens wowed fans by standing under the goal post at the goal line (goal posts have since been moved to the back of the end zone) and leaping to block a long, line-drive field-goal attempt by the Washington Redskins. The tactic was legislated out of existence.

[Clipper Nation]

Not saying he was some amazing tight end, just pointing out that he has experience on offense. Obviously if he was some great TE, he'd still be playing there. Nobody's acting like Watt would be a stud on offense but to claim that just any defensive lineman could make those catches is retarded. Go back to searching for tranny porn, you're clearly out of your element.

[Clipper Nation]

Its really weird that you seriously think JJ is the difference maker for Houston

:lol thinking Watt is more Burke to their team than Rodgers, Brady or even Rivers.
Who's the difference-maker on that shitty-ass Houston roster, then? Shitzpatrick? 80-year-old Andre Johnson? Jadeveon "my pussy's sore so I can't play today" Clowney?

Your football takes are almost as consistently shitty as Avante's.

[FkLA]

Not saying he was some amazing tight end, just pointing out that he has experience on offense. Obviously if he was some great TE, he'd still be playing there. Nobody's acting like Watt would be a stud on offense but to claim that just any defensive lineman could make those catches is retarded. Go back to searching for tranny porn, you're clearly out of your element.

Have you read what your retarded buddy dumbjohn has been writing? I never said any lineman could run a simple route and catch a pass either--although I also don't think it's some rare trait. All I said was catching is an elementary skill, which it is. You don't need experience as a TE or WR to be able to make a catch.

[unleashbaynes]

Its really weird that you seriously think JJ is the difference maker for Houston

:lol thinking Watt is more Burke to their team than Rodgers, Brady or even Rivers.

oh look, its the guy who said Cam Newton was better than Joe Montana trying to talk shit. How's life, you faggot homer piece of shit? Panthers still a complete dumpster fire?


Have you read what your retarded buddy dumbjohn has been writing? I never said any lineman could run a simple route and catch a pass either--although I also don't think it's some rare trait. All I said was catching is an elementary skill, which it is. You don't need experience as a TE or WR to be able to make a catch.

if catching is such an elementary skill then why are the Pats light a super bowl ring right now? because if wes welker makes just one, easy, "elementary" catch, they win that game. guy must fuckin suck tbh.

[Avante]

Who's the difference-maker on that shitty-ass Houston roster, then? Shitzpatrick? 80-year-old Andre Johnson? Jadeveon "my pussy's sore so I can't play today" Clowney?

Your football takes are almost as consistently shitty as Avante's.

Damn you're dumb.

Johnson is 33, the number one sprinter in the world for 2014 was 32 year old Justin Gatlin. How old was Jerry Rice when he retired?

If stupid were illegal you'd be behind bars.

[FkLA]

oh look, its the guy who said Cam Newton was better than Joe Montana trying to talk shit. How's life, you faggot homer piece of shit? Panthers still a complete dumpster fire?



if catching is such an elementary skill then why are the Pats light a super bowl ring right now? because if wes welker makes just one, easy, "elementary" catch, they win that game. guy must fuckin suck tbh.

Is that you, dumbjohn?

Youre completely missing the point. Like I said previously good hands dont make someone a legit receiving threat. There's alot more that goes into it and Watt just doesn't have that skillset. Two of his catches were little cupcakes. The over the shoulder catch was a well thrown ball more than anything- -its not like he outclassed the LB on that play the way legit redzone threats do.

[unleashbaynes]

Is that you, dumbjohn?

Youre completely missing the point. Like I said previously good hands dont make someone a legit receiving threat. There's alot more that goes into it and Watt just doesn't have that skillset. Two of his catches were little cupcakes. The over the shoulder catch was a well thrown ball more than anything- -its not like he outclassed the LB on that play the way legit redzone threats do.

yeah, and nobody ever tried to say that watt was as good as gronk either. that was you, trying to go the hyperbole route and make it seem like people were calling Watt a great receiver, when people were simply remarking how impressive it is for a guy who plays DT to be able to go into a red zone situation and make that play. you are trying to downplay watt's impact on the game and overall beastliness because you have a personal vendetta against two posters who happen to be Texans fans.

Yeah, the guy probably wont win MVP. but to act like its some ridiculous notion to have him in the conversation is pretty ignorant.

[FkLA]

yeah, and nobody ever tried to say that watt was as good as gronk either. that was you, trying to go the hyperbole route and make it seem like people were calling Watt a great receiver, when people were simply remarking how impressive it is for a guy who plays DT to be able to go into a red zone situation and make that play. you are trying to downplay watt's impact on the game and overall beastliness because you have a personal vendetta against two posters who happen to be Texans fans.

Yeah, the guy probably wont win MVP. but to act like its some ridiculous notion to have him in the conversation is pretty ignorant.

:lol Wut? Ive said he's a monster and the best defensive player in the league. His dominance on defense doesn't make him a good receiving TE though.

[spurraider21]

he's not a great TE :lol... but he's shown to be effective at the goal line, and not just in the mike vrabel "im wide fucking open" way. let's not pretend that has no value

he's not a realistic MVP candidate because the team has struggled, and his numbers dont necessarily mirror their wins and losses. he has 5.5 sacks in losses, 6 sacks in wins. he has been credited for 5 passes defended in loss, 3 in wins

[unleashbaynes]

:lol Wut? Ive said he's a monster and the best defensive player in the league. His dominance on defense doesn't make him a good receiving TE though.

Ok, i can dig that. Good debate tbh :tu

[FkLA]

Actually two of his TDs were 'Im wide fucking open' catches. So basically one well thrown over the shoulder catch makes him a legit, effective redzone threat. That makes sense. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Damn you're dumb.

Johnson is 33, the number one sprinter in the world for 2014 was 32 year old Justin Gatlin. How old was Jerry Rice when he retired?

If stupid were illegal you'd be behind bars.
Andre is no longer the best WR on the Texans. It's Deandre Hopkins

[Avante]

Andre is no longer the best WR on the Texans. It's Deandre Hopkins

Johnson is coming off a 109=1407 season, he has over 60 catchs/700 yards in 2014. The guy is a great receiver.

[djohn2oo8]

Johnson is coming off a 109=1407 season, he has over 60 catchs/700 yards in 2014. The guy is a great receiver.
You apparently have not watched any games. He can't get separation anymore and drops tons of catches.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Who's the difference-maker on that shitty-ass Houston roster, then? Shitzpatrick? 80-year-old Andre Johnson? Jadeveon "my pussy's sore so I can't play today" Clowney?

Your football takes are almost as consistently shitty as Avante's.
That's the point. They aren't very good

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You apparently have not watched any games. He can't get separation anymore and drops tons of catches.
That's cause he doesn't give a fuck and has subpar QB's

[djohn2oo8]

That's cause he doesn't give a fuck and has subpar QB's

He's played with shitty QBs all of his career. So it's nothing new..

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

oh look, its the guy who said Cam Newton was better than Joe Montana trying to talk shit. How's life, you faggot homer piece of shit? Panthers still a complete dumpster fire?



if catching is such an elementary skill then why are the Pats light a super bowl ring right now? because if wes welker makes just one, easy, "elementary" catch, they win that game. guy must fuckin suck tbh.

First off, I never said that faggot. Second, our franchise has at least been successful since it's beginning. Get your homer takes and stupid bullshit out of here. He can catch passes from the goal line. So could Warren fucking Sapp. On the goal line people don't expect the lineman to make a play. It's one yard.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

He's played with shitty QBs all of his career. So it's nothing new..
Meh Schaub at one time was great

[Clipper Nation]

First off, I never said that faggot.

Well... Lets look at their first three years off each other.. I'll use Montana's fourth year included:

Yards:
Newton: 11,229
Montana: 7,973
Advantage: Cam

TD's/INT's:
Newton: 64/42
Montana: 51/38
Advantage: Cam

QBR AVG:
Newton: 86.4
Montana: 86.3
Advantage: Cam

Rushing Yards:
Newton: 2032 yards, 28 TD's, 5.6 rushes per carry
Montana: negative yards
Advantage: Cam

Completion %:
Newton: 59.8%
Montana: 61.6%
Advantage: Montana


Second, our franchise has at least been successful since it's beginning.
147-167-1 all-time record, only five playoff appearances compared to 14 non-playoff seasons (soon to be 15).

:lol "successful"


Get your homer takes and stupid bullshit out of here.
:lmao The irony of you saying this to anyone.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

147-167-1 all-time record, only five playoff appearances compared to 14 non-playoff seasons (soon to be 15).

:lol "successful"


:lmao The irony of you saying this to anyone.
You do realize that I just posted stats? Your unconscious thoughts make you look at the stats and think I'm saying Cam is better. Guess his stats are pretty damn impressive those first three years.

[Clipper Nation]

You do realize that I just posted stats? Your unconscious thoughts make you look at the stats and think I'm saying Cam is better. Guess his stats are pretty damn impressive those first three years.
No, the fact that you try to argue that the advantages are 4-1 in favor of Cum implies that you think Cum's better, or at least on pace to be better, which will never be true. You're a homer faggot with shitty takes, per par.

[benefactor]

3 sacks and a safety today.

:wakeup

[djohn2oo8]

3 sacks and a safety today.

:wakeup
And a forced fumble. #MVP

[resistanze]

When's the last time an MVP came from a non playoff team? If there's one year for that to happen, its this year for Watt.

[benefactor]

When's the last time an MVP came from a non playoff team? If there's one year for that to happen, its this year for Watt.
All homerism aside, I think they had to get in for him to get it. If they would have made it today it would be hard to justify denying him.

[resistanze]

All homerism aside, I think they had to get in for him to get it. If they would have made it today it would be hard to justify denying him.

Yup. Like Adrian Peterson two years ago; clinched a playoff spot in week 17 by beating the packers with 199 yards from AP.

If they lost that game, no way he would've got the MVP

[monosylab1k]

He needs the MVP regardless. He arguably had just as much impact as a franchise QB. Houston was probably a 3 win team without Watt this season.

[benefactor]

He needs the MVP regardless. He arguably had just as much impact as a franchise QB. Houston was probably a 3 win team without Watt this season.
I agree, but the league won't give it to him. 2 games over .500 with no QB? Even in a terrible division that's pretty ridiculous.

[djohn2oo8]

First player in NFL history with two 20 sack seasons

[HI-FI]

Just give it to him, give the boy a chance.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BWQACEMW0i4/hqdefault.jpg

[Chris]

Just give it to him, give the boy a chance.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BWQACEMW0i4/hqdefault.jpg

:lol

[weebo]

Deserves but won't get it. It's a quarterback league.

[benefactor]

http://deadspin.com/come-on-j-j-watt-should-be-the-mvp-1675832355

[Avante]

Anytime a defensive player has everyone debating if he should get the nod above the stud QB, he has done something special. It's far harder to make an impact playing defense.

JJ Watt is the only rival to Lawrence Taylor I've seen.

Yep, this seasons MVP...JJ Watt.

[Leon Sandcastle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6FOu_8IEAAG09g.jpg

:lmao mvp my ass

[Avante]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6FOu_8IEAAG09g.jpg

:lmao mvp my ass


I hate to break it to ya like this but an MVP award is an.....individual....award, ok?

[spurraider21]

:cry

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000451867/Little-kid-swats-J-J-Watt-and-finger-wags

[resistanze]

He needs the MVP regardless. He arguably had just as much impact as a franchise QB. Houston was probably a 3 win team without Watt this season.


I agree, but the league won't give it to him. 2 games over .500 with no QB? Even in a terrible division that's pretty ridiculous.

I agree. It's dumb to think that the Ravens overcoming their choke against the Browns in the 4th quarter should cost Watt the MVP.

The NFL is only 16 games, which in my opinion is too small of a sample size to make the "but he didn't make the playoffs derp!" argument. You mean to tell me if Watt played for the Panthers, he's suddenly deserving? How many teams miss the playoffs on tiebreakers over teams that they hadn't even play?

[pgardn]

GB would Zero chance at the playoffs and they could still win the SB. All because of Aaron Rogers.

Watt can't get Houston there. Unless he can throw the ball.

QB is by far the most important position. It's all Aaron Rogers, and if it ain't, it's a travesty. They need another award for Watt besides Defensive player of the year.

[LkrFan]

And a forced fumble. #MVP
How many sacks did he get in their loss to the Cowboys? I'll save you time:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400554234

:lol Watt had 4 more tackles than me
:lol no sacks
:lol at his minimal impact v. Great Wall of Dallas 2.0
:lol stat padding and feasting off mediocre OLs
:lol overrated
:lol Watt is at home watching the Cowboys in the playoffs
:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime
:lol at Houston blocking Cowboys games when Texans are playing at the same time
:lol Houston has Li'l Dick Syndrome (LDS) despite being 3rd biggest city in America
:lol major market city with LDS
:lol at you getting maaaaaaaaad as fuck reading this post

:downspin:

[Raven]

:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime

[bobcatfan4life]

:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime

JJ Watt, the reason the Texans missed the playoffs...

[LkrFan]

:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime


How many sacks did he get in their loss to the Cowboys? I'll save you time:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400554234

:lol Watt had 4 more tackles than me
:lol no sacks
:lol at his minimal impact v. Great Wall of Dallas 2.0
:lol stat padding and feasting off mediocre OLs
:lol overrated
:lol Watt is at home watching the Cowboys in the playoffs
:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime
:lol at Houston blocking Cowboys games when Texans are playing at the same time
:lol Houston has Li'l Dick Syndrome (LDS) despite being 3rd biggest city in America
:lol major market city with LDS
:lol at you getting maaaaaaaaad as fuck reading this post

:downspin:


:lmao

For the simple tards in this thread I'll break it down for you. Watt carried a 2-14 team to 9 wins, which is a 7 game improvement and ties for the third best record in franchise history(for those that can't count) with No QBS, no tight ends, Clowney on IR, no other pass rusher, yet the defense had the most takeaways in the NFL thanks to Watts' 115 QB hurries being double and triple teamed. This is while playing a position (3-4 DE) that is not supposed to make that kind of impact. So on the last day of 2014, you two manage to make the dumbest posts of the year :lol

[Leon Sandcastle]

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0WqYGaBYjwLtByT8JmaSpnJmF5c=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2326066/wattnomatch4romo.0.gif

[LkrFan]

For the simple tards in this thread I'll break it down for you. Watt carried a 2-14 team to 9 wins, which is a 7 game improvement and ties for the third best record in franchise history(for those that can't count) with No QBS, no tight ends, Clowney on IR, no other pass rusher, yet the defense had the most takeaways in the NFL thanks to Watts' 115 QB hurries being double and triple teamed. Yet they were minutes within getting to the playoffs. Man you got more excuses than a virgin on prom night. :rollin :lmao :rollin

He carried y'all to the lottery :lol

[Leon Sandcastle]

He needs the MVP regardless. He arguably had just as much impact as a franchise QB. Houston was probably a 3 win team without Watt this season.

They were a 2 win team WITH Watt the year before :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Man you got more excuses than a virgin on prom night. :rollin :lmao :rollin

He carried y'all to the lottery :lol
The NFL doesn't have a lottery Pablo :lol

Now Kobe on the other hand...

[djohn2oo8]

They were a 2 win team WITH Watt the year before :lmao

Schaub cost them how many games with his pick 6s? Lol Stick to the kitchen Sheila, and make me a goddamn sammich.

[LkrFan]

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0WqYGaBYjwLtByT8JmaSpnJmF5c=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2326066/wattnomatch4romo.0.gif

That's one of his "115 QB hurries" [MENTION=3]djohn2oo8[MENTION] talked about? Almost don't count:

:lol Amy almost didn't cuck Jim
:lol Spurs almost repeated as champs

:downspin:

[LkrFan]

The NFL doesn't have a lottery Pablo :lol

Now Kobe on the other hand...
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

That's one of his "115 QB hurries" [MENTION=3]djohn2oo8[MENTION] talked about? Almost don't count:

:lol Amy almost didn't cuck Jim
:lol Spurs almost repeated as champs

:downspin:
Since you are cherry picking, and are losing, post the 78 tackles, 20 1/2 sacks, 10 pass breakups, four forced fumbles, an interception and five total touchdowns. Oh and five fumble recoveries. I'll be waiting.

[LkrFan]

Since you are cherry picking, and are losing, post the 78 tackles, 20 1/2 sacks, 10 pass breakups, four forced fumbles, an interception and five total touchdowns. Oh and five fumble recoveries. I'll be waiting.
:lolK - against the Great Wall of Dallas 2.0:

:lol 4 tackles
:lol ZERO pass breakups
:lol ZERO sacks
:lol ZERO forced fumbles
:lol ZERO interceptions
:lol ZERO TDs

Oh, and:

:lol ZERO respect from LkrFan

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Since you are cherry picking, and are losing, post the 78 tackles, 20 1/2 sacks, 10 pass breakups, four forced fumbles, an interception and five total touchdowns. Oh and five fumble recoveries. I'll be waiting.

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe you can do me a favor and post the gifs where he scored on offense, defense, and then blocked a field goal. #MVP.

[LkrFan]

:cry Please love my JJ :cry
Are those stats from the regular season against mediocre OLs? :downspin:

[Raven]

Man you got more excuses than a virgin on prom night. :rollin :lmao :rollin

He carried y'all to the lottery :lol

man there is no lottery in the nfl :lol

[LkrFan]

Maybe you can do me a favor and post the gifs where he scored on offense, defense, and then blocked a field goal. #MVP.

MVPs don't play for a lottery NFL teamsPERI:lolD

[LkrFan]

man there is no lottery in the nfl :lol

Oh I kn:lolw. Just fucking with djohn2oo8 and pissing him off. :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Oh I kn:lolw. Just fucking with djohn2oo8 and pissing him off. :lmao

You obviously didn't know that Enrique :lol

[LkrFan]

You obviously didn't know that Enrique :lol

:lol


Yo sabía que shiiiiiiiiiiit ! Riendo el cul:lol !

[djohn2oo8]

MVPs don't play for a lottery NFL teamsPERI:lolD

So MVPs play for lottery NBA teams since Kobe has played for two? :rollin damn Enrique

[LkrFan]

So MVPs play for lottery NBA teams since Kobe has played for two? :rollin damn Enrique

:lol

Let me clarify this shiiiiiiiiiiit! :lol You can't win MVP the same year your team is going lotto. 35.4ppg and being the best player in the NBA don't mean shit to MVP voters. No way Nash should have won the MVP over Kobe that year but he did. Same will happen to Watt. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

:lol

Let me clarify this shiiiiiiiiiiit! :lol You can't win MVP the same year your team is going lotto. 35.4ppg and being the best player in the NBA don't mean shit to MVP voters. No way Nash should have won the MVP over Kobe that year but he did. Same will happen to Watt. :lol

Nope, too late. You said MVPs don't play for lotteryteamsPERIOD.

antoniobanderasassassins.gif

[LkrFan]

Nope, too late. You said MVPs don't play for lotteryteamsPERIOD.

antoniobanderasassassins.gif

Classh:lolle! :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

How many sacks did he get in their loss to the Cowboys? I'll save you time:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400554234

:lol Watt had 4 more tackles than me
:lol no sacks
:lol at his minimal impact v. Great Wall of Dallas 2.0
:lol stat padding and feasting off mediocre OLs
:lol overrated
:lol Watt is at home watching the Cowboys in the playoffs
:lol at Watt missing the playoffs in his prime
:lol at Houston blocking Cowboys games when Texans are playing at the same time
:lol Houston has Li'l Dick Syndrome (LDS) despite being 3rd biggest city in America
:lol major market city with LDS
:lol at you getting maaaaaaaaad as fuck reading this post

:downspin:
Stat padding, overrated, and missing the playoffs in his prime... are you sure you're not thinking of Kirby, Rolando?

[LkrFan]

Stat padding, overrated, and missing the playoffs in his prime... are you sure you're not thinking of Kirby, Roland:lol?

:lmao

[LkrFan]

Stat padding, overrated, and missing the playoffs in his prime... are you sure you're not thinking of Kirby, Rolando?
Rivers and Watt watching Romo in the play:lmaoffs! :downspin:


Haga girar este shiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Rivers and Watt watching Romo choke in the play:lmaoffs! :downspin:
fify

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I remember now why I enjoyed the Cowboys not being in the post season.. these fans man :lol..

[LkrFan]

I remember now why I enjoyed the Cowboys not being in the post season.. these fans man :lol..

8-7-1 team hosts a 12-4 team. That's some bullshit s:loln! :lmao

Cardinals have a bye this week! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[LkrFan]

fify

:lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

8-7-1 team hosts a 12-4 team. That's some bullshit s:loln! :lmao

Cardinals have a bye this week! :rollin :lmao :rollin
First, you got the records wrong. Second, they don't have the bye. Third, we are going to win and your bitching won't matter.

[LkrFan]

First, you got the records wrong. Second, they don't have the bye. Third, we are going to win and your bitching won't matter.

OK, 11-5 - big deal. :rolleyes The Cardinals have to play during their playoff bye week vs. Panthers. Anytime you are playing a sub 0.500 team, you have a bye. :lol. AFC S:loluth Chumpi:lolns

[pgardn]

:lol

Let me clarify this shiiiiiiiiiiit! :lol You can't win MVP the same year your team is going lotto. 35.4ppg and being the best player in the NBA don't mean shit to MVP voters. No way Nash should have won the MVP over Kobe that year but he did. Same will happen to Watt. :lol

Horrible comparison.
Deserves a pinking.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

OK, 11-5 - big deal. :rolleyes The Cardinals have to play during their playoff bye week vs. Panthers. Anytime you are playing a sub 0.500 team, you have a bye. :lol. AFC S:loluth Chumpi:lolns

Want to make a bet that the Panthers make it at least as far, if not further than your Boys?

"AFC South Champs" Are you fucking retarded bro? Do you even football?

[LkrFan]

Horrible comparison.
Deserves a pinking.
:lol

[LkrFan]

Want to make a bet that the Panthers make it at least as far, if not further than your Boys?

You don't want that shit son. Save your money. Besides, I talk shit, but I don't bet.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Besides, I talk shit, but I don't bet.

/thread

[LkrFan]

Want to make a bet that the Panthers make it at least as far, if not further than your Boys?

"AFC South Champs" Are you fucking retarded bro? Do you even football?

:lmao - Freudian slip. Go ahead and Google that shiiiiiiiiiiit - I know you don't know what it means. :lol

[LkrFan]

/thread

Please. Ya'll a bunch of welching farmers anyway. There is no honor around these parts. :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lmao - Freudian slip. Go ahead and Google that shiiiiiiiiiiit - I know you don't know what it means. :lol

Son I'm a Phy Therapy major.. I took Psychology classes out the asshole. I do not know what you are referring to. If you are referring to a parapraxis then I know what you are referring to.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Please. Ya'll a bunch of welching farmers anyway. There is no honor around these parts. :lol

I just meant a sig or avatar bet, tbh..

[Clipper Nation]

Please. Ya'll a bunch of welching farmers anyway. There is no honor around these parts. :lol
It was your fellow Lakerfan that pulled the welch of the century on DPG, with Dale as the ringleader. Don't forget that shiiiiiiiiitttt, Hernando. :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Son I'm a Phy Therapy major.. I took Psychology classes out the asshole. I do not know what you are referring to. If you are referring to a parapraxis then I know what you are referring to.


Good shit son. :tu

[LkrFan]

I just meant a sig or avatar bet, tbh..Nah, I'll pass. I'm confident, but I can't say the last time I won any type of bet. :lol

[LkrFan]

It was your fellow Lakerfan that pulled the welch of the century on DPG, with Dale as the ringleader. Don't forget that shiiiiiiiiitttt, Hernando. :downspin:
:lol

He was ordered not to pay a dimePERI:lolD

[unleashbaynes]

GB would Zero chance at the playoffs and they could still win the SB. All because of Aaron Rogers.

Watt can't get Houston there. Unless he can throw the ball.

QB is by far the most important position. It's all Aaron Rogers, and if it ain't, it's a travesty. They need another award for Watt besides Defensive player of the year.

Ehhh....you could make that argument for more than just rodgers. If brady, romo, manning, luck etc go down their respective teams are fucked too.

[unleashbaynes]

8-7-1 team hosts a 12-4 team. That's some bullshit s:loln! :lmao

Cardinals have a bye this week! :rollin :lmao :rollin

Panthers playing their best football of the season tbh.....arizona is in trouble with their qb sitiation.....i think carolina eeks it out.

[LkrFan]

Panthers playing their best football of the season tbh.....arizona is in trouble with their qb sitiation.....i think carolina eeks it out.

I like the Panthers despite my shit talk. :lol

I'm stationed in North Carolina. I plan to go to a few Panther games next season. I'm like 4 hours away.

[angrydude]

Home Field advantage should go to whoever has the better record. Period.

[djohn2oo8]

Houston Texans DE J.J. Watt was named the Pro Football Writers of America Defensive Player of the Year, it was announced today. Watt, who also won the award in 2012, joins Bruce Smith (1993 and 1996) and Ray Lewis (2000 and 2003) as the only players to earn the distinction twice.

The accolade is the latest in a growing list (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107520#) of honors for Watt, who was named to the Pro Bowl, Associated Press All-Pro First Team and PFWA All-NFL team for the third consecutive year following a season (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107520#) for the ages...

[LkrFan]

Houston Texans DE J.J. Watt was named the Pro Football Writers of America Defensive Player of the Year, it was announced today. Watt, who also won the award in 2012, joins Bruce Smith (1993 and 1996) and Ray Lewis (2000 and 2003) as the only players to earn the distinction twice.

The accolade is the latest in a growing list (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107520#) of honors for Watt, who was named to the Pro Bowl, Associated Press All-Pro First Team and PFWA All-NFL team for the third consecutive year following a season (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107520#) for the ages...

...but he missed the playoffs in his prime. :downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

...but he missed the playoffs in his prime. :downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

You mean like Romo did 3 years straight?

[spurraider21]

...but he missed the playoffs in his prime. :downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiit! :rollin :lmao :rollin
Why u gotta bring Kobe into every thread, vato

[LkrFan]

You mean like Romo did 3 years straight?

Romo has more playoff wins than Watt. :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Why u gotta bring Kobe into every thread, vato:lol

[djohn2oo8]

Romo has more playoff wins than Watt. :downspin:

They have the same amount of playoff wins. The difference is it didn't take Watt until he was 34 to get his second one :lol

[LkrFan]

They have the same amount of playoff wins. The difference is it didn't take Watt until he was 34 to get his second one :lol

:lol

[jeebus]

:lol as Rodgers squeezes every last drop of his DNA inside of benefactor and :cry JJ Swatt :cry

[benefactor]

Rodgers is the only other player I'd have win it. Congrats.