KJ McDaniels or Danny Green

[Cklbmk]

Is KJ worth a look with the cap space this offseason if Danny Green gets a big offer?

[SupremeGuy]

DG is in a weird situation. In Pop's system, he looks like a great player. Throw him on almost any other team and he probably disappears. How many teams are as unselfish as the Spurs so that DG can put up uncontested 3s all game long? Not many.

[100%duncan]

Are you serious?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Are you serious?

[DesignatedT]

lol wut

[Malik Hairston]

DG is in a weird situation. In Pop's system, he looks like a great player. Throw him on almost any other team and he probably disappears. How many teams are as unselfish as the Spurs so that DG can put up uncontested 3s all game long? Not many.

:lol you think the Spurs are the only team in the NBA that creates good looks from 3? Smh..

[SupremeGuy]

:lol you think the Spurs are the only team in the NBA that creates good looks from 3? Smh..:rolleyes

[Baam]

KJ McDaniels gotta be up there with Danny as far as blocks are concerned...

[Mel_13]

Are you serious?

[Chinook]

:rolleyes

It's true, though. Did you see the looks Miami and OKC got their players? Phoenix or GS? Houston? Atlanta? It's not uncommon at all.

[Chinook]

KJ McDaniels gotta be up there Danny as far as blocks are concerned...

He is. Can't shoot a lick, though. He's a four in a two's body.

[SupremeGuy]

It's true, though. Did you see the looks Miami and OKC got their players? Phoenix or GS? Houston? Atlanta? It's not uncommon at all.Those teams already have their two guards...

I really do wonder how hard teams are going to go after Danny or if we'll offer him a fair contract and that'll be that?...

[objective]

My understanding from 76er blogs was that they'll still be able to match any offer, so McDaniels really isn't an option.

He's shooting better than Green did his rookie year, and McDaniels was a very good free their shooter in college iirc, so he has the potential to be molded into a much better shooter than he is now. He would have been very nice to have as Green insurance.

[Beaverfuzz]

Bison Dele or Danny Green?

Discuss.

[Chinook]

My understanding from 76er blogs was that they'll still be able to match any offer, so McDaniels really isn't an option.

He's shooting better than Green did his rookie year, and McDaniels was a very good free their shooter in college iirc, so he has the potential to be molded into a much better shooter than he is now. He would have been very nice to have as Green insurance.

He's also an Arenas FA, so he can get an OS no bigger than the MLE. I don't see him going anywhere.

[Richie]

He is. Can't shoot a lick, though. He's a four in a two's body.

Exaggeration. Mbah a Moute can't shoot a lick, Aminu can't shoot a lick, KJ is having to put up tough shots on a horrible team. He's shooting over 40% on corner 3's, albeit from a limited number of attempts.

To quote draftexpress from 2013:


According to Synergy Sports Technology, McDaniels made 39% of his attempts with his feet set, albeit on a fairly limited sample size.

and in 2014


He's relatively reliable with his feet set and a glimmer of daylight (41%), and hits a terrific 87% of his free throw attempts

His problem isn't ability, it's shot selection. Give him the shots that Green gets and he'd be at least average at the NBA level. He'll never be lights out like Green, but to say he's a bad shooter is misinformed.

[Richie]

He's also an Arenas FA, so he can get an OS no bigger than the MLE. I don't see him going anywhere.

Actually doesn't that make him applicable for a poison pill contract?

[Chinook]

Actually doesn't that make him applicable for a poison pill contract?

Yeah. But no one's gonna do that for McDaniels. Though it does it that Pick-1 thread I had a few months ago.

[Raven]

what a shitty thread :lol

[exstatic]

:lol you think the Spurs are the only team in the NBA that creates good looks from 3? Smh..

Probably the best. Doesn't matter, though. Teams that will have money usually suck, and THEY don't create good looks.

[exstatic]

Have you seen his mama's twitter feed? Ridonkulous. Spurs wouldn't be havin' any of that.... They're also NOT going to pay the MLE for a backup SF to a 23 YO star.

Go under the radar and get SG Jamaal Franklin. He's another SDSU Aztec. He's got literally every skill except distance shooting. He didn't have a bad rookie year, he just got caught in a numbers/salary crunch in Memphis and was non-guaranteed. He's 6'5" with a 6'11" wingspan. He's a ferocious rebounder, and in the SDSU 4 guard set essentially played PF and grabbed 9.4 rebounds in 33 minutes per game as a junior. He's in China, but should be available in Feb/Mar.

[Malik Hairston]

Probably the best. Doesn't matter, though. Teams that will have money usually suck, and THEY don't create good looks.

Of course the Spurs are the best, but the majority of decent teams in the NBA can create open looks, otherwise there wouldn't be any good offensive role players:lol..

[exstatic]

Of course the Spurs are the best, but the majority of decent teams in the NBA can create open looks, otherwise there wouldn't be any good offensive role players:lol..

Right, but most good teams don't have money to spend that would put him out of the Spurs reach, financially.

[Malik Hairston]

Right, but most good teams don't have money to spend that would put him out of the Spurs reach, financially.

I agree, I don't think Green is leaving the Spurs, I don't think any team that could use him to put them over the top could afford him, so I'm confident he will reach a fair deal with the Spurs..

[100%duncan]

The thought of Green leaving the Spurs and then him guarding Kawhi or Parker is disturbing.

[Mal]

I wonder how much DG is worth on open market and if Spurs could match 80% of it.

[unleashbaynes]

The fuck outta here.

[Mel_13]

I wonder how much DG is worth on open market and if Spurs could match 80% of it.

The Spurs can pay Green more than any other team.

[Richie]

Yeah. But no one's gonna do that for McDaniels. Though it does it that Pick-1 thread I had a few months ago.

I'm actually beginning to think a team will. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone throw $30m/3yr at him. It's only $12m more than Wiggins (the #1 pick) will get over that time frame and KJ is proving that he belongs in the same league as Wiggins, even if it is early in the season.

I'm not actually sure if the poison pill contract is in play here since the Sixers are under the cap, they may not be forced in to a backloaded deal the way the Knicks and Bulls were. I think it's got something to do with exceptions but I'm not totally sure.

I think the Sixers would match anything up to $10m per for him, if for no other reason than their fan base would go crazy if they lost the only bright spark of an abhorrent season, but it might be a different story if they were forced to pay him 5/5/20 rather than 10/10/10

[Mel_13]

I'm actually beginning to think a team will. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone throw $30m/3yr at him. It's only $12m more than Wiggins (the #1 pick) will get over that time frame and KJ is proving that he belongs in the same league as Wiggins, even if it is early in the season.

I'm not actually sure if the poison pill contract is in play here since the Sixers are under the cap, they may not be forced in to a backloaded deal the way the Knicks and Bulls were. I think it's got something to do with exceptions but I'm not totally sure.

I think the Sixers would match anything up to $10m per for him, if for no other reason than their fan base would go crazy if they lost the only bright spark of an abhorrent season, but it might be a different story if they were forced to pay him 5/5/20 rather than 10/10/10

Bookmarked for future reference.

[100%duncan]

I'm actually beginning to think a team will. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone throw $30m/3yr at him. It's only $12m more than Wiggins (the #1 pick) will get over that time frame and KJ is proving that he belongs in the same league as Wiggins, even if it is early in the season.

I'm not actually sure if the poison pill contract is in play here since the Sixers are under the cap, they may not be forced in to a backloaded deal the way the Knicks and Bulls were. I think it's got something to do with exceptions but I'm not totally sure.

I think the Sixers would match anything up to $10m per for him, if for no other reason than their fan base would go crazy if they lost the only bright spark of an abhorrent season, but it might be a different story if they were forced to pay him 5/5/20 rather than 10/10/10

10 million for a 2nd round rookie who has done nothing to prove his worth or his offensive game on probably the worst team in history.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'm actually beginning to think a team will. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone throw $30m/3yr at him. It's only $12m more than Wiggins (the #1 pick) will get over that time frame and KJ is proving that he belongs in the same league as Wiggins, even if it is early in the season.

I'm not actually sure if the poison pill contract is in play here since the Sixers are under the cap, they may not be forced in to a backloaded deal the way the Knicks and Bulls were. I think it's got something to do with exceptions but I'm not totally sure.

I think the Sixers would match anything up to $10m per for him, if for no other reason than their fan base would go crazy if they lost the only bright spark of an abhorrent season, but it might be a different story if they were forced to pay him 5/5/20 rather than 10/10/10

:wow

[Venti Quattro]

This is just a bad idea from which nothing good will come out from. Even drunk driving RC wouldn't be coerced to signing KJ McDaniels.

[Mal]

The Spurs can pay Green more than any other team.

Are they wiling to ? Market for SG with defense isnt big. Some teams could overpay him.

[Mel_13]

Are they wiling to ? Market for SG with defense isnt big. Some teams could overpay him.

What do you think overpaying Danny Green would look like? The teams that could pay in excess of the MLE aren't very good.

I don't think the Spurs lose him this summer.

[Richie]

10 million for a 2nd round rookie who has done nothing to prove his worth or his offensive game on probably the worst team in history.

Of course it's a gamble, but you have to pay that kind of figure otherwise Sixers will just match. I'm not saying KJ is worth it, I'm saying that's the kind of number you have to pay to get him away from the Sixers and hope he turns in to Jimmy Butler in a few years.

[exstatic]

Of course it's a gamble, but you have to pay that kind of figure otherwise Sixers will just match. I'm not saying KJ is worth it, I'm saying that's the kind of number you have to pay to get him away from the Sixers and hope he turns in to Jimmy Butler in a few years.

Spurs never roll the dice like that. They'll go a after someone like Jamal Franklin for the minimum.

[Richie]

Spurs never roll the dice like that. They'll go a after someone like Jamal Franklin for the minimum.

I agree I don't think the Spurs will do it, but I think someone will

[exstatic]

I agree I don't think the Spurs will do it, but I think someone will

Yeah, there's a lot of really dumb GMs still employed by NBA teams.

[BatManu20]

This thread...

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/02/lee_trevino_disapproves_happy_gilmore-30175.gif

[BatManu20]

All these tweets are from K.J. McDaniel's mom :lol



@UncleRUSH (https://twitter.com/UncleRUSH) MY SON WAS JUST DRAFTED TO FHILLY76 A SCREWED UP PROGRAM, SO I AM GOING TO SHARE YOUR QUOTE, I THINK THAT IT WILL STRENTHEN HIM
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) October 1, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/517403062709669888)


"That type of negativity about her son’s team is nothing new. Check out these tweets when he was at Clemson:"


so sad for KJ he is a one man team,his coach is hatin on him because a hall of famer coach K:called him the best player in the ACC.HE IS
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 27, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/427638709932924928)



@ClemsonDRad (https://twitter.com/ClemsonDRad) so sad,after the coach K compliment to KJ, Brownell cut KJ down in his interview,KJ has lots to learn,who there can teach him
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 27, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/427640729167355905)



@ClemsonDRad (https://twitter.com/ClemsonDRad) Brownell appears to hates KJ.it became crystal clear to the world watchin,these lost,he gives up on the player who dont tranfer
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 27, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/427642667590103040)



@KJMcDaniels (https://twitter.com/KJMcDaniels) you r surrounded by HATERS FOOLS IDIOTS,please take my advice LEAVE that school.that coach is hurtin your NBA chance,sabatagin
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 27, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/427643818771374080)



@KJMcDaniels (https://twitter.com/KJMcDaniels) yes, im fed up
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 27, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/427643988787470336)



@KJMcDaniels (https://twitter.com/KJMcDaniels) Why you keep passing the ball,They don't pass it to you If you don't wake up and realize the HATERS on your team today,ITS OVER
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 27, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/427644769867558913)



@KJMcDaniels (https://twitter.com/KJMcDaniels) you got some HATERS on your team,.I would rather you never play basketball again than to play another game there.open your eyes
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 29, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/428465526763835392)



@KJMcDaniels (https://twitter.com/KJMcDaniels) you dont have any help,the staff should be a shamed of themselves,when you open and they wont pass you the ball,OPEN YOUR EYES
— Shawn Chapman McD. (@kjmomshawn) January 29, 2014 (https://twitter.com/kjmomshawn/status/428467143487664129)


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/21/k-j-mcdaniels-mom-slams-76ers-on-twitter/



He had some character concerns at Clemson IIRC. Imagine Stephen Jackson without the production, tbh.


**Plus, his mom is a distraction :lol


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2-lyuICEAAlF2r.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B25OYOCCUAEsL0o.png



And back at Clemson..


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2_wVnlIYAAxApT.jpg